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Speaker 2: Now, we'd like to turn to Representative Nicole Maliatakas, who

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Speaker 2: is a Republican representing the eleventh District of New York

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Speaker 2: and congresswoman. We'd like to stick with this topic of

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Speaker 2: redistricting and ask whether this fight might be coming home

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Speaker 2: to you. Do you see this battle actually moving to

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Speaker 2: New York and are you and your district perhaps vulnerable

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Speaker 2: to moves by Democrats to redraw the map in the

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Speaker 3: I think this certainly does open up the floodgates all

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Speaker 3: around the country now as.

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Speaker 4: Each state looks to make gains.

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Speaker 3: That will benefit their own political party. I've been very

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Speaker 3: clear that whether it's Republicans or Democrats tempting to politically gerrymander,

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Speaker 3: that it's wrong. I believe it's corrupt, and it silences

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Speaker 3: and takes away the voice of the people who are

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Speaker 3: supposed to be the ones who decide our elections. I

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Speaker 3: think it's really important that we have the most competitive

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Speaker 3: seats possible. That is how you hold your representative accountable,

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Speaker 3: and that is how you ensure that they actually come

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Speaker 3: out and speak to you, the voters, about what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: what they're not doing how they vote and why, and

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Speaker 3: so I don't support what Texas is doing, and certainly

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Speaker 3: obviously there's concern that they may try to do this

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Speaker 3: again in New York. Now, in twenty twenty two, Kathy

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Speaker 3: Hokel and the Democrats did gerrymander, even after there was

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Speaker 3: a ballot referendum in which New Yorkers made very clear

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Speaker 3: they did not want political jerrymandering. We sued after they

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Speaker 3: egregiously redrew my district, and we were able to get

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Speaker 3: the entire map of the state of New York thrown out,

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Speaker 3: and it was then a court appointed independent master that

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Speaker 3: drew the lines. And what happened when we actually had

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Speaker 3: fair maps in New York, Republicans made significant gains and

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Speaker 3: the Democrats lost two of their incumbents. So I think

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Speaker 3: that that was a lesson to Kathy Hockel and the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: They tried to do this anything again in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four when they did a switcher roo on the Court

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Speaker 3: that was very corrupt what Kathy Ogele did. They did

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Speaker 3: win an opportunity to redraw, but because of the public

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Speaker 3: outrage and the scrutiny nationally, they did not change the

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Speaker 3: maps much in twenty twenty four. So here we are

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Speaker 3: again potential redistricting battle. But there would need to be

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Speaker 3: a constitutional amendment, which would mean that it would have

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Speaker 3: to pass this legislative session, next legislative session, and then

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Speaker 3: go to the voters in a referendum. So the earliest

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Speaker 3: they could potentially redraw these maps would be for twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty eight. But nonetheless, I think we will fight back

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Speaker 3: and we will defeat them once again.

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Speaker 1: Right. And it's interesting, Congresswoman, because we often said here

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Speaker 1: that the path to taking the House in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of those Republican seats that ultimately

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Speaker 1: helped the GOP get to the majority. But just to

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Speaker 1: put a finer point on this conversation about redistricting, are

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Speaker 1: you confident that if this were to happen again, that

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Speaker 1: same legal pathway would be there for you to protect

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Speaker 3: Well, again, it would have to go to a public referendum,

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Speaker 3: and I think we would actually win that once again.

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Speaker 3: We did win it the first time around when they

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Speaker 3: tried to do this, and then what they did was

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Speaker 3: they just ignored the will of the people and jammed

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Speaker 3: sue successfully in court. What I would say to my

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Speaker 3: win on merit, and that's what the way elections should be.

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Speaker 4: We've just delivered very.

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Speaker 3: Significant tax relief for working Americans, for middle class families,

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Speaker 3: for senior citizens. Eighty eight percent of seniors across the

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Speaker 3: country are going to see their tax liability on Social

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Speaker 3: The economy is doing well. We're seeing trillions of dollars

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Speaker 4: And I think that.

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Speaker 3: We need to make sure that we're going out and

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Speaker 3: talking about these successes because we're going to win a

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Speaker 3: don't want to see it happening. And aside from that,

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Speaker 3: it shouldn't be happening only once a decade after the census,

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Speaker 3: which means the next redrawing of maps should be in

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Speaker 3: twenty thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Congresswoman, when we talk about the question of winning on

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Speaker 2: merits and on debate and on the issues today, we

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Speaker 2: see and in fact this our Vice President JD. Vance

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Speaker 2: joining some of your House Republican colleagues in Georgia to

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Speaker 2: try to pitch the benefits of President Donald Trump's tax legislation,

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Speaker 2: which you, of course had a role in getting through

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Speaker 2: the chamber. Why do you think there is the need

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Speaker 2: to make this sales pitch to the American people? Have

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Speaker 2: you detected any concern among your constituents and is there

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Speaker 2: an issue with the messaging itself from the party about

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Speaker 2: what may be beneficial in the legislation.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of misinformation and there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of confusion. The Democrats have said one thing and

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Speaker 3: the Republicans are saying another, and so I think it's

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Speaker 3: important for Republicans to be on the offensive because we

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Speaker 3: are proud of this piece of legislation. It is the

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Speaker 3: largest tax cut in history. It is making sure that

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Speaker 3: the child tax credit not only gets extended, but gets increased.

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Speaker 3: We're helping workers, from tipped restaurant workers to uber drivers,

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Speaker 3: to middle class families like the ones I represent. State

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Speaker 3: and local tax relief significant for New York. They're getting

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Speaker 3: hammered by the Democrats, whether it's property taxes or income taxes.

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Speaker 3: This is going to give them relief. I think in

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Speaker 3: some cases my district will see thousands of dollars in

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Speaker 3: savings for families and the assault the senior deduction. Fifty

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Speaker 3: one million seniors across America are going to get relief

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Speaker 3: and keep their Social Security paycheck without the government taking

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Speaker 3: that this thing's going to sell on its own. I

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Speaker 3: have confidence that when people do their taxes in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six, they will see the significant relief for the

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Speaker 3: again continuing to grow. We're seeing GDP growth. We're seeing

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Speaker 3: trillions of investment in private companies, domestic and foreign, expanding operations,

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: It seems every week, if not every couple of days,

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Speaker 3: This is really all goods stuff for our economy. And

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Speaker 3: I think come year from now, and we're in the

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Speaker 3: that they're fear mongering that many of the Democrats were committing.

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Speaker 4: We're simply fear mongering, right.

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Speaker 3: They'll see that the Medicaid cuts that they said were

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Speaker 3: going to take place did not happen, that seniors, disabled,

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Speaker 3: children with disabilities, all children, pregnant women, people below the

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Speaker 4: They'll see the and they're seeing it regularly.

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Speaker 3: How those who are the fraudsters are getting prosecuted, and

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Speaker 3: I think overall will be shown to be the truthful

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Speaker 1: Well and Congress from Democrats are saying that they want

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Speaker 1: to have some more say here, even though Republicans do

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Speaker 1: hold both chambers of Congress, and I want to stick

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Speaker 1: on this idea of the work of Congress because we

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Speaker 1: should say, for our radio listeners, you're joining us from

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Speaker 1: days before the continuing resolution expires. Are we going to

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Speaker 3: I've been in Congress for five years and I've been

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Speaker 3: through this a number of times where we avoided a

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Speaker 3: we're going.

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Speaker 4: To do that again.

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Speaker 3: But we do need to see some bipartisan cooperation. I'm

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Speaker 3: proud to be a member of the House Problem Solvers

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Speaker 3: Committee CACUCUS rather that is made up of half Republicans,

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Speaker 3: half Democrats, where we come together to work through these

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Speaker 3: types of more difficult things. What makes the appropriations process

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Speaker 3: different than reconciliation is that it needs to be bipartisan

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Speaker 3: Republicans coming together to avoid a government shutdown. Now, whether

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Speaker 3: that means we're going to have to do a continuing resolution,

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Speaker 3: I imagine it will probably be a short term continuing resolution.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to see that.

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Speaker 3: I would like to see the Republicans put forward a

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Speaker 3: budget that reflects the priorities of the administration and the

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Speaker 3: Republican controlled Congress. That is what the American people voted for.

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Speaker 3: But when we don't have the votes to do so,

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Speaker 3: because you need the sixty votes in the Senate, it makes.

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Speaker 4: It more difficult. We'll probably see.

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Speaker 3: Some changes, some additions to the It wouldn't be just

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Speaker 3: a plane continuing resolution. There would be have to be

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Speaker 3: avert a government shutdown, just like we've always have since

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Speaker 3: I've been there.

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Speaker 2: And congresswomen, are you confident in the thirty second since

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Speaker 2: we have left, that all Republicans will fall in line

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Speaker 2: on a continuing resolution when it comes down to it.

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Speaker 3: I have confidence that they will not all fall in

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Speaker 3: line that I'm pretty sure of, and that happens with

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Speaker 3: every continuing resolution. There's always a group of the Republicans

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Speaker 3: they've never voted for continuing resolution and don't intend to

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Speaker 3: do so now, which is all the more reason why

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Speaker 3: this needs to be a by partisan process. And I

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Speaker 3: think that you know, I've supported the continuing resolutions. I

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Speaker 3: think there may have been just one that I voted

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Speaker 3: And I think that you're going to see a large

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Speaker 3: majority of the Republicans support it and a small minority

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Speaker 3: of the Democrats to support it. That's probably how it

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Speaker 3: would play out in my prediction.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Republican Congressman and Nicole Malliataugas of New York's

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Speaker 1: represents New York's loveth Congressional District, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining