Speaker 1: As media. All right, y'all, Hood politics with prop So
Speaker 1: I'm starting a series here that's not gonna be like
Speaker 1: every you know, it's not gonna be back to back
Speaker 1: by like a mini series like you know, behind the
Speaker 1: Police or something, but just something to come back to,
Speaker 1: and one of which is I just want to walk y'all.
Speaker 2: Through the American health scapes.
Speaker 1: You know, all these cities that our president is telling
Speaker 1: us are just unlivable, just horrible places for people to
Speaker 1: live and work and survive. Like you can't even wear
Speaker 1: your watches anymore, you know. And my biggest thing about
Speaker 1: hearing stuff like that is like, I mean, have y'all,
Speaker 1: like if y'all been to the cities that he's talking about,
Speaker 1: Like do you know anyone that lives there? Like why
Speaker 1: would you just believe that? I feel like it's such
Speaker 1: a fixable problem, you know. But it's also if you,
Speaker 1: like I said, like how this show works, Like if
Speaker 1: you understand the hood, you grew up in the inner cities,
Speaker 1: you understand politics. People have been saying this about us,
Speaker 1: whether you're black, you Latino, or you're from the inner city.
Speaker 1: This is these are the things that we've lived with forever.
Speaker 1: Where it's just like you have this narrative about it.
Speaker 1: Just pull up, like, just come through, act like you
Speaker 1: got some home training, you know, and you will be
Speaker 1: treated well.
Speaker 2: Right you know.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so to kick this off, I wanted to
Speaker 1: start in Memphis.
Speaker 2: How you am I saying it right?
Speaker 3: Are you close?
Speaker 2: I'm close? It's too much. I got too much, lam me.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite things is when Prop gets into
Speaker 4: his like Southern dialect bag.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because my grass, my granny, because you know,
Speaker 1: our granny Ranny for the feeling.
Speaker 4: Every time, I was like, oh yeah, Grandma, Yeah it's
Speaker 4: coming out.
Speaker 2: I love it. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, everybody la they granty from the South, Like
Speaker 1: that's we're all like, you know, transplants from there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh, my man Bartholomew Jones, uh, coffee Black.
Speaker 1: We've had him on here before when we were doing
Speaker 1: the terraform and stuff about making coffee black again and
Speaker 1: and sort of the specific movements of how he was
Speaker 1: trying to like uplift you know, uh, bring the blackness
Speaker 1: back to coffee, you know, reclaim some narratives here and
Speaker 1: and just what he's doing as a business owner that's
Speaker 1: you know, not just about business, but about the community
Speaker 1: and being like, you know, rooted in a place that
Speaker 1: you exist in and working and it's given so much
Speaker 1: to you and you just want to give back. So
Speaker 1: this one is not so much about the coffee, although
Speaker 1: that's gonna come up because we are us, but it's
Speaker 1: this is more about what it.
Speaker 2: Means, like I just want him.
Speaker 1: I just want him to come in here and just
Speaker 1: gush about Memphis, like like imagine, imagine, you know, I
Speaker 1: pop in and I'm like, Okay, I got five days,
Speaker 1: I got five days in the city. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, make me fall in love with Memphis.
Speaker 1: So that's that's really what's happening here. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and start with your personal narrative. Okay, So
Speaker 1: coffee black generational member of Memphis, give me, give me
Speaker 1: some history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, So I've grown up my whole life in Memphis.
Speaker 2: My father grew up his whole life in Memphis.
Speaker 4: His father moved to Memphis from Arkansas after his father,
Speaker 4: you know, lost the land they had about ninety acres
Speaker 4: or so in Arkansas where.
Speaker 3: He was actually not a sharecropper.
Speaker 4: And that's a big part of my dad and my
Speaker 4: granddad was said out of time, we are not sharecroppers,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And it was big, it.
Speaker 4: Was big thing for us bro They were not able
Speaker 4: to keep the land that they were working, they kept
Speaker 4: the soft skills, they kept the social capital and all
Speaker 4: of that. So, like, business ownership has always been part
Speaker 4: of my legacy, my family has been, you know, either
Speaker 4: supporting through. My granddad had like four or five jobs,
Speaker 4: two or three business ran, plus working with other people.
Speaker 3: That's just been a part of history.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So we you know South specifically, So if you know.
Speaker 1: About that, you know about that and no no pause pause, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you know about that, assume we don't what are
Speaker 1: we missing? Like in the sense that like what do
Speaker 1: you not know? Is truly South Memphis? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like you're like, oh, you remember the song
Speaker 1: that y'all loved that South Memphis?
Speaker 3: Right if you think about young Dolph Okay, right, historically.
Speaker 4: Very love beloved artists like that's that's South Memphis right there.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, So pl e that South Memphis.
Speaker 4: A lot of those artists that are coming out from there.
Speaker 4: And when you think about the South I remember was
Speaker 4: actually like the quintessential.
Speaker 2: Black neighborhood in Memphis.
Speaker 4: Of course there's a history in North Memphis too, but
Speaker 4: a lot of social history you think about I W well, right,
Speaker 4: like she had a lot of her initial work was
Speaker 4: in South Memphis. She actually, like her activist work started
Speaker 4: out like writing a letter against or a series of
Speaker 4: letters against a lynching that happened from on grocery store
Speaker 4: called People's Grocery in South Memphis.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. South Memphis has like had
Speaker 3: a lot of history there.
Speaker 4: So even with People's Grocery, that particular store black owned.
Speaker 4: You had like some of the first black millionaires in
Speaker 4: South Memphis. There was a thriving history there, and of
Speaker 4: course that wasn't beloved by some of the folks outside
Speaker 4: of that community. And so yeah, you have to come
Speaker 4: into this black owned grocery store. The story goes that
Speaker 4: two kids were playing outside. One kid was a black
Speaker 4: kid whose parent was in the store. The kid was
Speaker 4: a white kid who was outside. They were playing Jack's.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, If you remember Jackson Jacks
Speaker 4: and a black kid wins, the white kid's parent comes
Speaker 4: out as dad, and you know, start saying that the
Speaker 4: black kid was cheating and so on this before they're like, nah,
Speaker 4: that's disrespectful. This is our store, of course, Now your
Speaker 4: kids just lost. Anyway, long story short, you come back,
Speaker 4: the store has been burned down. That night, several people
Speaker 4: got lynched. And this was in the middle of like
Speaker 4: a bustling, thriving black on community. And this incident is
Speaker 4: what kind of instigated id B Wells, which is I
Speaker 4: think in a lot of ways as indicative of the
Speaker 4: history of Memphis, because you know, we talk about things
Speaker 4: being burnt and things being bitter and things being desolate,
Speaker 4: but these are ruins, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: a lot of these are places that have been ransacked
Speaker 4: and pillaged. And people's grocery is a perfect example of
Speaker 4: a place that the only reason why you ransacked or
Speaker 4: pillage the place is because there's wealth.
Speaker 2: There's well, right, So like, yeah, there.
Speaker 4: Was wealth there, and you know, when we get into it,
Speaker 4: I'll talk about how there still is.
Speaker 3: But that history.
Speaker 4: Now we think about South Memphis, we think about drugs
Speaker 4: and crime and beads and basketball, these narratives that are
Speaker 4: out there, but like South Memphis was the first flourishing
Speaker 4: black owned neighborhood filled with millionaires and musicians and grocery
Speaker 4: stores whatever.
Speaker 3: The antithesism desert is, yes.
Speaker 4: And because of that jealousy towards that, or envy towards that,
Speaker 4: or hate towards that, or maybe maority, I'm not sure,
Speaker 4: because I mean there were still tons of Jim Crow happening.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: White people were not actively being oppressed. They were just
Speaker 4: thriving in spite of that.
Speaker 3: Right, I love.
Speaker 2: I love that point. I love I.
Speaker 1: I wish I could like this is where I wish
Speaker 1: I could be like a Cornell West level history teacher,
Speaker 1: like right, where you could just change that narrative or
Speaker 1: that that perspective of like it's it's in spite of
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's not because like when
Speaker 1: you say okay, you hear a lot of like now
Speaker 1: these like new white supremacists, like these new ones is weird, right,
Speaker 1: but they were They're like listen, uh f no states
Speaker 1: meaning like ending you know, keeping us segregated is actually good.
Speaker 1: And they're like, well, look man, like Japan's flourishing because
Speaker 1: it's an eth no state.
Speaker 2: They're like look you're you're They're like.
Speaker 1: Look, man, you look at Finland and Scandinavia, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have it's like a utopia because.
Speaker 2: They just don't allow diversity, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they were so then they look at what you
Speaker 1: just argued, and they said, no, look, Jim Crow was
Speaker 1: good for black people, just like they knew Baby Martyr.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Mister Kirk, you know, was like I think civil rights
Speaker 1: move was bad. He's like, listen, you guys had black
Speaker 1: owned businesses. You this, you stay in your community, your money,
Speaker 1: state in your community. Like I understand what the problem is.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to segregation. And it's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're it's in spite of segregation.
Speaker 3: And I think part of.
Speaker 4: The piece that's missing there too is I don't think
Speaker 4: white people like segregation because like when you think about
Speaker 4: this of how how how I don't even mean the
Speaker 4: way you think about it first, But like they were
Speaker 4: at the store. Nobody I came in shop. You wanted
Speaker 4: to be in the store.
Speaker 3: I don't know if.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, But there was the desire
Speaker 4: to be in the community that God actually created us
Speaker 4: to be in you know what I'm saying, even though
Speaker 4: the segregation was forced or people were like, yeah, but
Speaker 4: I want to go over there. Yeah, but I want
Speaker 4: to go to Bill Street. Yeah, but I want to
Speaker 4: be be king. Yeah but yeah I want to hear W. C.
Speaker 4: Handy like, yes, there is a desire for so for
Speaker 4: and you even see that now, like so much of
Speaker 4: the cultural export of Memphis, whether it's the Blues or the.
Speaker 2: Grizzlies, it's mafia.
Speaker 4: Yeah people, you know what I'm saying, Gotti like or
Speaker 4: when we talk about you know what I'm saying, flipp
Speaker 4: it like these these the cultural export, the barbecue, the
Speaker 4: fried chickens. So much of what I loved about the city,
Speaker 4: by everyone who is here right comes from these black
Speaker 4: seeds that for some reason I saw the spot and
Speaker 4: it's like yo, you you you even in your spirit,
Speaker 4: you know that this is not how God intended us
Speaker 4: to live, because you ain't living like yeah, exactly. Segregation
Speaker 4: was what people really wanted. There wouldn't be all these
Speaker 4: these babies on slave plantations.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, you know what I'm saying, Come on
Speaker 2: now here.
Speaker 4: Cuisine, you know what I'm saying, German cooking styles if
Speaker 4: you with like my brother right here islagg and that
Speaker 4: how you get schnittle style chicken on a plan. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, no, yeah, I'm with it.
Speaker 4: People the desires like mag of cheese, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like here's a black man enslave getting sent
Speaker 4: out to Paris and bringing the techniques. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, one of these that's so beautiful. My brother
Speaker 4: Steven zennierman here, he's our new assistant manager. They actually
Speaker 4: just moved to Memphis.
Speaker 3: So they just moved.
Speaker 4: He's from Georgia, Augusta and they lived in Jersey's a
Speaker 4: coffee rollser Now they just moved their whole family to Memphis,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And one of the things
Speaker 4: that he's they're bakers and chefs as well as coffee
Speaker 4: roasters and barises, and they've been baking these golageechee snacks
Speaker 4: or deserve like uh, like a chewi which has a
Speaker 4: whole history to that joint.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Where it's like black folks, where Steve, would you want
Speaker 4: to talk about that?
Speaker 1: So them you're here, you're here, all right, Steve, come
Speaker 1: to the mic. Yo, my look so with it?
Speaker 5: What's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: What's up? Boy? Wait?
Speaker 2: Okay, now I.
Speaker 3: See who he is? Yeah, yeah, man, just real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And this I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 5: say this. This history is the the gospel.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what was told to me.
Speaker 5: And I got the recipe from my one of my aunties.
Speaker 5: Units gave me this recipe of chewis your auntie?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Now? Say it again? My name was Lee Eunice. I
Speaker 2: love it black as hell?
Speaker 5: Okay, go on, yeah, man, my auntie she she gave
Speaker 5: me this recipe a couple of years back, man, because
Speaker 5: we always had them when we was kids and were
Speaker 5: running around the churn, want something to eat? Yeah, and
Speaker 5: going on over to the table and get one of
Speaker 5: them chooser there. So we get one of them at
Speaker 5: one of the family events. And as I got older,
Speaker 5: went the Coulinary school and everything, uh started learning a
Speaker 5: little bit, and then a lot of the older people
Speaker 5: in the family just start dying off.
Speaker 2: So you just want to three.
Speaker 5: You want to keep the recipes from our parents, you know, grandparents, aunties.
Speaker 5: And I just asked her one day, Auntie Lee, can
Speaker 5: I get that recipe from you for the for the
Speaker 5: for the chewies. And the history goes from what I
Speaker 5: was told by another family member that back in the day,
Speaker 5: if it looks like a brownie, if you don't it
Speaker 5: looks like a brownie, eats like a brownie, the inside
Speaker 5: is a little bit more chewy.
Speaker 3: So that's kent.
Speaker 2: It's called that. Yeah, But we couldn't.
Speaker 5: Afford chocolate, uh or it was a delicacy or is
Speaker 5: it was a privilege to have. But we still knew
Speaker 5: how to bake, still knew how to do something with
Speaker 5: what what what what? The little that we might have
Speaker 5: and with chew was just flour, brown sugar, eggs, a
Speaker 5: little bit of sea salt or salt, yeah, some vanilla,
Speaker 5: and you melt it. It's like the straight though method. Yeah,
Speaker 5: make melt it down in the pot, spread it in
Speaker 5: a cookie sheet, bake it twenty five maybe thirty minutes,
Speaker 5: and cut it and eat it.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the true delicacy.
Speaker 5: It's a delicacy. And people been doing that for their
Speaker 5: churn for a long time. And my aunt, my aunts,
Speaker 5: and my uncles, my grandma, they did it for us
Speaker 5: when we was was looking.
Speaker 2: At thanks for that, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, they like it's like it's
Speaker 4: almost like, oh, you have pecan pie, like the feeling
Speaker 4: of a pekan and pie. Uh huh that plus a
Speaker 4: plus a blondie. You know what I'm saying, absurd, absurd crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But think what people are reacting to is they're seeing
Speaker 4: a culture in the history that is so unique and
Speaker 4: so regional, but at the same time, they're seeing themselves
Speaker 4: in it and like, this is not black folks who
Speaker 4: coming like we can't keep these chees and stocks since
Speaker 4: they've been making them everything, Like.
Speaker 2: The chewies in here.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, they gone.
Speaker 4: I think that's such an example of like this this
Speaker 4: clear blessing, you know what I'm saying, of people making
Speaker 4: good things because they are made of a good creator
Speaker 4: and people kind of like your appetite is telling on you.
Speaker 1: I think that there's, uh, there's something to that in
Speaker 1: the sense that like what I what I remember and
Speaker 1: loved about Memphis, especially when I tied it to history,
Speaker 1: which is in a lot of ways, it's something that
Speaker 1: growing up out West I don't necessarily have, Uh, is
Speaker 1: the length the length of history and culture to pull
Speaker 1: from in the sense that you know, with like California
Speaker 1: was Mexico, Like this was something else, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But I think that there's like I didn't
Speaker 1: grow up in a world in the way that you
Speaker 1: did to be like, well man, you're you know, the
Speaker 1: grocery store, the you know, the bank, your principal.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like they was all they was all black, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I didn't necessarily see that in
Speaker 1: a way that a lot of people who grew up
Speaker 1: in the South, and of course we did because we're
Speaker 1: part of La was from.
Speaker 2: Of course I was black panther. It was plain black people.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that my my third grade teacher, Miss Spears,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But for her, you know, this is a black woman.
Speaker 2: But we was we were in a.
Speaker 1: That she taught it a Latino neighborhood school, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because that's where I lived, you know.
Speaker 1: And but she was like a studio. She was the
Speaker 1: official background singer for Whitne Houston. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like she was saying saying, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: but that was just but for us, that's la to
Speaker 1: where you're just like, look, dude, like everyone everyone's gorgeous,
Speaker 1: everyone's talented, we're all howded together. The streets are dangerous,
Speaker 1: but just act like you got sense it is what
Speaker 1: it is, right. So so I think that like you
Speaker 1: having this like longer history of saying, I can look
Speaker 1: at this building, I know this corner for generations was
Speaker 1: an example, Like you said, the first black billionaires. I
Speaker 1: think it's also important with music, you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: the Motown sound or what was going on in Nashville.
Speaker 2: The players were from Memphis, like the people that.
Speaker 3: Actually we got to talk about Soulsville in South Memphis.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to say, the actual musicians, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like that's also South mephis right, exactly.
Speaker 4: We're talking about records, Yeah, we're talking about Isaac Hayes.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the songs song like Green Onions, Yeah,
Speaker 4: all over the world. We're talking about, Yeah, the Staples singers.
Speaker 4: So much of what is the soul music sound, Like
Speaker 4: I say, soul music was created in Memphis.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was exported and polished in Detroit. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They really commercialized the sound.
Speaker 4: But when you talk about that gritty so much, so
Speaker 4: many hip hop samples came from Stax Music Records for
Speaker 4: a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's just gotta swing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then the way the drums hit like this is
Speaker 4: again such a huge part of even saying the words soul.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. This is a huge part
Speaker 3: of Memphis culture.
Speaker 4: And so when you think about these things, of course,
Speaker 4: Memphis is not just the crime, it's not just the improvement.
Speaker 2: It is the things that.
Speaker 4: Were here prior to it that many times were the
Speaker 4: reasons why someone came and plundered us in the first place,
Speaker 4: was because there was gold there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love that you got plundered. You got plundered. So
Speaker 1: unfortunately for you and I, like we are, we were
Speaker 1: born in that era, the era of you know, the
Speaker 1: post plundering. We grew up in the ashes of a
Speaker 1: once beautiful civilization and had to create something out of
Speaker 1: out of what we had. Right, So, you know, me
Speaker 1: being a product of like you know, the crack academic
Speaker 1: and you know in the in the street sweepers and
Speaker 1: the you know, militarization of the police and LAPD like
Speaker 1: you know, you know which gave us you know, gangster rap,
Speaker 1: which gave us you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Uh, the graffiti culture. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the things that you know are
Speaker 1: in galleries now you feel me?
Speaker 2: Uh and are you know yeah, yeah yeah and mimicked. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It all over the world,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So I think you know, whether it's you know, trap
Speaker 1: music obviously is specifically Atlanta, but like but either way, uh,
Speaker 1: there was it was, it got it got dark like
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't let anybody, don't. I do
Speaker 1: not romanticized gang life. So like, so I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: tell me about the darkness, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And I think that this is a thing that is important.
Speaker 4: Like we live here too, So if anyone knows that
Speaker 4: it is dangerous, if you want to find the people
Speaker 4: who can speak the most about it, like you ask
Speaker 4: somebody who lived there whose business has to go through, Yes,
Speaker 4: vandalism and the burglaries and and we call them call heads,
Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying, but like the con heads
Speaker 4: coming up and shooting up on the trying to get
Speaker 4: a couple of dollars off something like.
Speaker 3: We lived here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I stayed in in.
Speaker 3: The apartments next to the project, shared the gate.
Speaker 4: I remember seeing dead bodies in and sitting on the
Speaker 4: side of the road. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 4: it just got murder. They was looking for a body
Speaker 4: for weeks, you know what I'm saying. I remember we
Speaker 4: had some nice apartments, even the project.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they're like, oh, y'all got a pool, so
Speaker 4: gang members coming in and hitting the pool. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, we gotta go. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: it's to go. Yeah, it's a wrap like they hitting
Speaker 4: the pool, we might as well. And the mythics they
Speaker 4: call it slicing, so like there's a whole zaire Zaida
Speaker 4: who was in who did the documentary for the Reset
Speaker 4: Exchange program, she just did a short film that's won
Speaker 4: several awards on slicing, which is like a style of
Speaker 4: diving where Memphian's like, we have music playing, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all just do it like this and then they
Speaker 2: just like crazy dies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a whole thing, right, bro, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So was it dark?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 3: Do I want to see more crime happening?
Speaker 2: Want to see more babies being hurt?
Speaker 4: Like we can even talk about like the occupation here
Speaker 4: now currently how like you'll see a lot of black
Speaker 4: folks being like, hey, I'm low key not mad.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard no gunshots in the money, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like people be like my kids can go outside and
Speaker 4: you can't take away. Somebody has desired to feel safe
Speaker 4: and for their for their family. Like that's a real
Speaker 4: conversation that's happening. It's not simple. It's not just no
Speaker 4: like easy kind of like oh this is bad, this
Speaker 4: is good. Like it's like the city is experience complexity.
Speaker 4: I was a teacher for ten years. You have to
Speaker 4: shout out to people who were teaching the rappers and
Speaker 4: then into coffee young all of us.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But like those are real things where like the school
Speaker 4: systems need to be improved, like they need funding, Like
Speaker 4: our arm do not have a lot of high paying jobs,
Speaker 4: a lot of factory jobs. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 4: where people will feel like it's mindless, soulless work. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of foolishness, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: live in neighborhood. We do discipleship here, we do mentorship here.
Speaker 4: Like I talked mid to school for ten years. I
Speaker 4: remember talking to a young man and he like, I'm
Speaker 4: about to go kill these folks. Brouh.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This is just like third year and see's great, big dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fourteen years old. Yeah, homie, Like what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 4: And I taught his sister and he was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I ran the hip hop clubs, so all the kids
Speaker 4: would come, you know those, So I got a mix
Speaker 4: of like honor students and like kids who was heading
Speaker 4: to the house after they left. But him, like getting
Speaker 4: to the bottom of it, he was like, bro, I'm hurt.
Speaker 4: Like this man embarrassed me because he was a big
Speaker 4: guy and his cousin have been talking down on his
Speaker 4: weight and he was like disrespected and it's hurt my
Speaker 4: At the end of the day.
Speaker 2: His feelings were hurt.
Speaker 4: He hurt feelings, Yeah, And like we don't have language
Speaker 4: to talk through what to do as a man, specific
Speaker 4: as a black man, when your feelings are hurt, you
Speaker 4: have actual feelings and they can be easily hurt. And
Speaker 4: now you've got to figure out what do you do
Speaker 4: when that happens, you know what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 4: even have a dearth of black men to be in
Speaker 4: a place to have a conversation with a young black
Speaker 4: man when he in that process and don't know what
Speaker 4: to do. So there's several kinds of poverty, right, not
Speaker 4: just the financial poverty, not just the poverty of opportunities
Speaker 4: to get jobs, but even the financial like the poverty
Speaker 4: of people right to be able to get more information
Speaker 4: that you don't have access to or like have an
Speaker 4: opportunity to get taught something or brought something that you
Speaker 4: needed to put the dark place.
Speaker 3: So it's real, like you got to listen.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen three six, listen to listen to flip, listen
Speaker 4: to say listen to music that's coming out of the olymphus.
Speaker 3: You can hear, yeah, you can hear. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. But there's a you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying that there's a.
Speaker 1: There's a number of things that you brought up in here,
Speaker 1: there is the the the the civil rights are like
Speaker 1: the black leadership of the eighties that were like they
Speaker 1: were the the the like I said, they were the
Speaker 1: leadership when I was a child, that were actually very
Speaker 1: much for this police state, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they had this, and then that's a that's a
Speaker 1: critique of like a lot of like our our parents
Speaker 1: and grandparents to be like y'all kind of wanted this because,
Speaker 1: like you just pointed out, in the short run and
Speaker 1: the and the the data proves it. In the short run,
Speaker 1: in the temporary highly militarized zones do give a moment
Speaker 1: of peace and calm, right, it is just not sustainable
Speaker 1: because in the same way that like you're a parent,
Speaker 1: like if you go in there to your boys and
Speaker 1: you like stop jumping around, go to bed, or I'm
Speaker 1: whooping y'all, and you know what I'm saying, the next
Speaker 1: I'm coming, I'm whooping y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gonna shut up. They're gonna shut up.
Speaker 3: You know see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly when the actually happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quiet, it's gonna be quiet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be quiet for a little bit, right,
Speaker 2: And it's.
Speaker 1: Like yes, exactly, And and what that tells them as
Speaker 1: you as a father, is like you you subconsciously know
Speaker 1: that okay, you can't self regulate, you don't know your emotions,
Speaker 1: and you don't actually care about us.
Speaker 2: You just want your own comfort.
Speaker 1: So the second you look away or the second I
Speaker 1: realize you're getting older and you actually ain't as strong
Speaker 1: as I remember you to be, then me gonna fight
Speaker 1: because that's what you taught me.
Speaker 2: You feel me. There is no respect there.
Speaker 1: It's only fear and a fear, and fear is always
Speaker 1: looking for a way to rebel against it. So so
Speaker 1: so yeah, for that short term, it's like yeah, granted,
Speaker 1: and them right like, man, I mean, I mean we
Speaker 1: really ain't heard no gun shots, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's almost like that's the same lesson you should
Speaker 1: teach to the streets.
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, this is this is short term.
Speaker 1: You think if you do to day bus we bus,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You're gonna get calm out
Speaker 1: here and you just gonna be able to run your
Speaker 1: you know, your your pharmaceutical activities. Because it's like, well, no, bro,
Speaker 1: Like this doesn't mean this don't really make peace?
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 4: The craziest thing when I realize like, oh, like our
Speaker 4: city is really in the militarized zone.
Speaker 2: Brouh.
Speaker 3: The con heads, like the crack heads, Bro, was lying
Speaker 3: and the little bikes up next to the door.
Speaker 2: They was parking them judging.
Speaker 4: Wait you know nah, like normally it's like you know
Speaker 4: bikes like the kid. Yeah, somebody poors, just a grown
Speaker 4: man on that joint and like no, they all over
Speaker 4: the yard, but they like clean the yard up.
Speaker 3: They don't get the up.
Speaker 4: They don't neatly put them next to the door by
Speaker 4: making it look like there's really some.
Speaker 3: Order in the home. And I remember driving by, like yo,
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen that before. That really crazy.
Speaker 4: I put money out like a stolen espresso machine in
Speaker 4: the house somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the other thing. You grow up.
Speaker 1: You see the niggas right riding your bike like you
Speaker 1: like that is absolutely my bike, bro.
Speaker 3: And it's like that's the crazy part. Bro. It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: was it dark? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: And does this kind of forced military presence seem like
Speaker 4: it offers a solution to that? Does it solve some problems. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'm seeing a lot of like, yo, I'm glad
Speaker 4: about this. The complex piece is and this is what
Speaker 4: I felt like, man, God put it on my heart
Speaker 4: to say, is like, I think the Republicans were right
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways, and the sense that so
Speaker 4: much of Trump's campaign was critiquing Democrats in the nineties, right,
Speaker 4: and they were critiquing the crime build.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I'm saying the reason why y'all are locked up and
Speaker 4: criminalized in a lot of ways is because of Democrats,
Speaker 4: many of whom were running against, who were pushing for
Speaker 4: these super harsh punishments for black folks that now we've
Speaker 4: had to say, hello, holda hold up. Three to one
Speaker 4: for crack cocaine. Actually ain't that great? Yeah, yeah, Pools
Speaker 4: is actually not that great. And so it's been a
Speaker 4: talking point for a lot of Republicans and for a
Speaker 4: lot of our community who has wanted to to kind
Speaker 4: of pursue conservatism. They're like, hey, like this actually wasn't great, right,
Speaker 4: we kind of got screwed over in this deal. What
Speaker 4: they talk about is that a lot of black leadership,
Speaker 4: to your point, was pro that as well. It wasn't
Speaker 4: just like people from outside our community saying. We was
Speaker 4: like I live next to this dude.
Speaker 3: Lock him up.
Speaker 2: Yah, yeah, get this nigga hat.
Speaker 3: Crug bro We got we got.
Speaker 4: I remember when we like wanted like one robbery at
Speaker 4: the shop. We finally were able to get a dude
Speaker 4: on camera talk to the police.
Speaker 3: Bruh, get locked up, brouh.
Speaker 4: Two weeks later, I hit you know Mario, oh hit
Speaker 4: meant from the shop who been working with me since
Speaker 4: he was ten, hit me like, brother dude in the shop, damn,
Speaker 4: Like I just talked to the Like I just talked
Speaker 4: to what you mean in the shop.
Speaker 3: They like brou out, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like you.
Speaker 4: Look at the just out Facebook page man picture of
Speaker 4: man out on rn R. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: what Conaisance, I'm like, live it, bro, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And you like you start going through to
Speaker 4: like why would this happen? It feels like a setup
Speaker 4: for me to have to go do some things that
Speaker 4: I spent my whole life not doing. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, this is not the life if I
Speaker 4: want to live.
Speaker 1: There were moments in the UH that we knew that
Speaker 1: like you know, I think, uh, I remember on drink
Speaker 1: Champs h Quick and and it was an interview with
Speaker 1: Quick and Problem and they brought up something that I
Speaker 1: remember vividly is like the police, you know, during the
Speaker 1: gang sweep you know, the little street sweepers era, you know,
Speaker 1: basically if it was two black people, y'all in a
Speaker 1: gang so like so yeah, so if they would swoop
Speaker 1: you up, and then the police asked you a couple
Speaker 1: of questions, try to get you to station on somebody,
Speaker 1: and then you.
Speaker 2: Know, oh man, what is this crack in your pocket?
Speaker 1: You know, all you got to get in the car, right,
Speaker 1: And what they would do is rather than drive you
Speaker 1: to the to the to the station and they would
Speaker 1: just drive you to the other side of town, they
Speaker 1: would just drop you off in a rival hood, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then would tell them like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's niggas from over there, you know, they and your block,
Speaker 1: you know, to try to like make sure that we
Speaker 1: like you said, the circular like yeah, so that you
Speaker 1: would eradicate ourselves. Eventually we figured it out, like you know,
Speaker 1: we as in Los Angeles streets, like you know, I
Speaker 1: was a little too young for some of this stuff,
Speaker 1: but like they they would figure it out and be
Speaker 1: like because no one would good sense, would just walk
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you wouldn't just wander
Speaker 1: into you would know the borders.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't just wander into a rival neighborhood by yourself
Speaker 1: with no burner, you know what I'm saying, Like, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. Like, so, so Nigga started just being like,
Speaker 1: cause you know, we see each other in the holding tank,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I know that is
Speaker 1: we all went to junior high together, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, like dudes would just aboud to be like,
Speaker 1: oh you good, hommy. You know what I'm saying, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: d you know what I'm saying, Like, because we knew that,
Speaker 1: like there was a a force that was not whether
Speaker 1: they was Democrat or Republican, that was not interested in
Speaker 1: our flourishing, right, So yeah, they were interested in our containment,
Speaker 1: you feel me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's That's where I was saying, is like when
Speaker 4: I say I think the Republicans got it right and
Speaker 4: that there was a valid critique, a valid concern in
Speaker 4: the past there's a present valan critique of a past
Speaker 4: valid concern in our community, and they're saying, Hey, these
Speaker 4: Democrat leaders, they set y'all up right, that was not
Speaker 4: my concern. Is a lot of the flos in our
Speaker 4: community who have levied that and who kind of echoed
Speaker 4: that during our current president's campaign are now willing to
Speaker 4: make that same kind of fostering in exchange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that you're you're essentially promoting the role on
Speaker 4: drugs part two in these cities that are being militarized,
Speaker 4: you're promoting.
Speaker 3: The crime Bill Part two or part three.
Speaker 4: But this time, instead of it being Hillary cleaning, you're like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm cool with it if Trump does it, cool if
Speaker 4: my governor does it. And I'm like, yo, if it
Speaker 4: is a really actual valid critique that what happened in
Speaker 4: the nineties, we can all look back and say, yo,
Speaker 4: I get it, but that wasn't a way to roll
Speaker 4: with it, then it's definitely not the way to roll
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 2: The way.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what we're seeing, Like out of the people
Speaker 4: making these critiques are saying, well, yeah, that's happening, But
Speaker 4: it's kind of like collateral damage in order for us
Speaker 4: to get like safety my own children. So I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna turn a blind eye and what's happening to my
Speaker 4: immigrant neighbors, because it's not going to affect me.
Speaker 3: Until it starts affecting you.
Speaker 4: And you with Joe expired tags that you haven't had
Speaker 4: time to go downtown and sit off day to get refixed,
Speaker 4: or your boss hasn't taken the time because they profit
Speaker 4: super slim and they haven't fixed the tags on the
Speaker 4: company vehicle. Now you over and getting harassed by fifteen
Speaker 4: officers from seventeen different Yeah.
Speaker 2: Which you know what I'm saying, But you know that
Speaker 2: you asked for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't know it's going to hit me too, right,
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I'm just life skinned. Yeah, I just
Speaker 4: like you look Dominican, sir. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And even if I was like, damn this, the company,
Speaker 1: let me do this, Let me do this before we close,
Speaker 1: because I me and you we're gonna talk forever. But
Speaker 1: what I want to do is this, Let's just say
Speaker 1: we have I have twenty four.
Speaker 2: Hours, yeah in Memphis.
Speaker 1: I land in the morning, and I want you to
Speaker 1: curate this day money is no object, right, just think that, like,
Speaker 1: don't worry about traffic, just like you can just make
Speaker 1: this work. Where we're going, Where were getting coffee? Where
Speaker 1: we're going to breakfast? What are we gonna do? What museum?
Speaker 1: What are we gonna visit? Who we're gonna go see?
Speaker 1: It is the end at a Grizzlies game.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You tell me, yeah, bro say lests. Okay, So you're
Speaker 4: gonna start the sun up. You've got to go to
Speaker 4: the coffee club. Coffee black. Of course, we're gonna pull
Speaker 4: you a double shot of a natural anaerobic Ethiopian Guji
Speaker 4: from the tomo out there in the tree Waji and
Speaker 4: Guji's on. We'll hit you with a blessing. May the
Speaker 4: piece of God be on your house, in this cup
Speaker 4: and on you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Well, then slide over to hit a kitchen laurel for
Speaker 4: breakfast sushi.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So breakfast sushi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna hit the breakfast more.
Speaker 2: So this is you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I go, uh, I go breakfast sushi plus the black
Speaker 4: black pepper syrup.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What is a breakfast sushi, okay?
Speaker 4: And then I go and then I go soy sauce,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying on top of it, so
Speaker 4: you get the umami sweet and sour sweet and salty.
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 4: But my man breakfast kitchen laurel over there in Midtown.
Speaker 4: They're like ten minutes from the shop. They're going crazy
Speaker 4: right now, bro, So the is it?
Speaker 2: Wait? What is a breakfast sushi?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is?
Speaker 3: They do they take?
Speaker 4: They take breakfast sausage, okay. I believe it's some souvi eggs,
Speaker 4: like the Japanese style eggs.
Speaker 2: They chop them up.
Speaker 3: I don't know what else goes in there. I think
Speaker 3: it's cream cheese.
Speaker 4: Then they roll it in the sushi rice but it's
Speaker 4: a roll, and then they dip it in pancake batter.
Speaker 2: Shut up, okay.
Speaker 4: Then they dip it in pancake batter, deep fry it,
Speaker 4: and then they give you the black pepper. It almost
Speaker 4: says like cardival, but he swears just black pepper, the
Speaker 4: breakfast syrup. Okay, also on top with pickled okrah on
Speaker 4: the side. You feel me tapping it right down? Crazy, okay, bro?
Speaker 3: As in the side because I know we can talk
Speaker 3: about that, but like this.
Speaker 4: Whole uh James Beard arm the table, regional cuisine where
Speaker 4: people are this is really emulating and celebrating black innovation
Speaker 4: because once you get down to it, regional cuisine in.
Speaker 3: The South and a lot of how different black people
Speaker 3: made they.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, this is your farm. The table is
Speaker 2: just gentrified.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you mean being poor, you mean eating
Speaker 1: what you got is that on the.
Speaker 3: Outside and my grandma making me go hold the peace.
Speaker 2: Get go, get that.
Speaker 1: Had calla greens in South Central guard get them Cala Greens.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly.
Speaker 4: This whole thing, bro is like, if you're looking for
Speaker 4: culinary innovation, you gotta look at poor people, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And you gotta look at cities like
Speaker 4: Mephis where so much of this innovation has come on.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. Like, yeah, my man get.
Speaker 2: To get the swag. He's putting this thing together.
Speaker 4: He's like, Oh, we're gonna take the because it's a
Speaker 4: black Memphis, Tennessee thing to eat rice for breakfast.
Speaker 2: Okay. See, a lot of folks.
Speaker 4: Don't know that, but like that's one of the things
Speaker 4: we want to want to do with the menu once
Speaker 4: we get everything fully popping in the New HQ, like
Speaker 4: rice bowls for breakfast, but it's like we've been eating
Speaker 4: sweet rice and savory rice for breakfast. So breakfast sushi
Speaker 4: roll is really just Okay, I'm gonna have some sweet bread,
Speaker 4: We're gonna have rice, it's gonna be a little salty,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a little sweet.
Speaker 3: Some sausage and eggs.
Speaker 4: That was a plate growing up, and my man was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is basically sushi.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Brilliant.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna hit that joint for the breakfast first, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, then we're gonna slide over the Hard Times Deli.
Speaker 4: So these are some of the homies who is also
Speaker 4: I think he on that James Beers, Jecktory, but these
Speaker 4: are on white homies. You know, I'm saying, they're gonna
Speaker 4: praz They doing this amazing, like just bruh. They're doing
Speaker 4: the chop cheese, they doing the bro this joint. The
Speaker 4: more to Della sandwich, I think they call it s money,
Speaker 4: but it's basically a fried baloney sandwich.
Speaker 2: But there's real bushes for lunch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Yeah, We're gonna hit that joint for lunch,
Speaker 4: then for post lunch.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Why are we just eating?
Speaker 2: Like, what else are we gonna do?
Speaker 3: You said money was no object.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's a lot of food. I just ate, like,
Speaker 2: are we gonna go visit?
Speaker 1: Kay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 4: But post lunch okay ghost lu Yeah our house cafe
Speaker 4: next to the real Yeah that John bro crazy if
Speaker 4: you get a day where they're doing the smoke wings
Speaker 4: and the macazees and the broccoli and cheese corn bread
Speaker 4: like okay, okay, So while we're in South Memphis at
Speaker 4: that point, we're definitely gonna hit up the Stax Museum.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We go into the deep history and I'm partially going
Speaker 4: my daddy from South Memphers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: But like into the history of soul music, and so
Speaker 4: much of the stuff that we love is coming from
Speaker 4: cities like Memphis, bro, and in places we're moving here
Speaker 4: and so like, check out the music, check out the culture.
Speaker 4: Then we'll start over. The Unapologetic Records do an amazing work.
Speaker 4: If you and me were going to the studio. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, of course, yeah, hit a.
Speaker 4: Quick site for real quick drob. Some bars tapping with
Speaker 4: the homies are doing there. I think historically it's important
Speaker 4: to hit the Lorraine, you know what I'm saying, not
Speaker 4: just you gotta process that pain because as I said,
Speaker 4: like these things really did happen, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and so like for listeners.
Speaker 1: For listeners, the Lorraine Hotel has been turned into an
Speaker 1: art exhibit museum. It's where doctor King was assassinated in you.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I pulled up there, the
Speaker 1: way that the parking lot is when you turn the corner,
Speaker 1: it's like it's the exact like sort of framing of
Speaker 1: the famous picture when they're all pointing off the balcony,
Speaker 1: and I remember my heart.
Speaker 2: Skipped a beat.
Speaker 1: I was just like it was like a movie scene
Speaker 1: where like the like the the the spike lee like
Speaker 1: moving sidewalk when you just have like a moment that's
Speaker 1: like pulling in and zooming out like whoa. When I
Speaker 1: saw that moment, I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: a real place because for me, again on my West,
Speaker 1: I've never seen it in person. So seeing it in person,
Speaker 1: I was like, shook it anyway. Yeah, so you got
Speaker 1: to go there and process that, yeah, bro, And it's
Speaker 1: it's a real thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I think like even when we.
Speaker 4: Had the Briefs Exchange program taking folks there for them
Speaker 4: to see this history, it was such a visceral thing
Speaker 4: because so much of what's happened in Memphis has touched
Speaker 4: the world, whether it's.
Speaker 2: Bill Street, which I think after the Bill Street, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Bill Street.
Speaker 4: Grab some food there, hit the FedEx Form to see
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies do they thing.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: John Moran shot the right for the Creek and then
Speaker 4: leaving their bride. But I want to make sure we
Speaker 4: grab some barbecue, you know what I mean. So like
Speaker 4: I would definitely hit in the city, Like Cozy Corner
Speaker 4: is the spot bang barbecue. They more Texas style, but
Speaker 4: they spot Q Guard is doing some crazy things in
Speaker 4: the city.
Speaker 3: And like at that.
Speaker 4: Time, Bro, I think like what people just say, like
Speaker 4: it's like, yo, the food is so good, Like there's
Speaker 4: so much love here. I would I was still here,
Speaker 4: you know, I would take you by our house, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Yeah, sit down and she could.
Speaker 3: Talk with you, pray with you.
Speaker 2: That's doube.
Speaker 1: We had a show once when I was on tour
Speaker 1: Andy that we just popped up on one of the
Speaker 1: days that the there was like a bill Street just
Speaker 1: so it seemed like it was like a street fair. First,
Speaker 1: they had a car show and it was just a
Speaker 1: gang of aunties and uncles up there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, and I was it was just so
Speaker 1: gloriously black that I was like, this is the I
Speaker 1: don't want to perform it, I just want to be here, right.
Speaker 1: So I spent most of the day there, and then
Speaker 1: after that we did our show and the venue, I
Speaker 1: forget what the name of it is, but the back exit,
Speaker 1: like if you exit from backstage, it just goes right
Speaker 1: onto Beal Street.
Speaker 2: And it was like we just walked into a carnival. Homie.
Speaker 1: I was like, and it was And I remember because
Speaker 1: it was Andy's birthday and I kind of got him drunk.
Speaker 2: A little bit. Also, like it's also a lightweight like Andy.
Speaker 1: That's why he doesn't really drink a lot because he
Speaker 1: just he just doesn't have a tolerance for it, right.
Speaker 2: But I was like, bro, you gotta get I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: get you like a slushy Man.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, it's no Bros.
Speaker 2: Dangerous Bro.
Speaker 1: I know because it's yes, because you think it's a Slushynah.
Speaker 2: Bro, that's dangerous bro.
Speaker 4: Anyway, yeah, Bro, But I think that's just a beautiful
Speaker 4: way if we want to go more culinary and our
Speaker 4: stoma sit endless.
Speaker 2: I would also say hit the Million Jeans.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're super elevated food, really great people.
Speaker 4: They carry the coffee too, but they do this like
Speaker 4: on the weekends they do this burger that's made from
Speaker 4: like the steak shavings. Yeah, and that is insane, bro.
Speaker 4: But there's so many things you can hit in Memphis, Bro.
Speaker 4: Like it's it's it's like there's there. And I think
Speaker 4: that's the surprising part. Like we had the folks from
Speaker 4: PBS out here for they mentioned YouTube you know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah, I'm in the I'm in the opening credits.
Speaker 4: Where yeah yeah, and they were like, Yo, Mphis is amazing,
Speaker 4: Like this is not what we expected. And we came
Speaker 4: willingly and we wanted to feature you guys, but they
Speaker 4: were like, we're low key more concerned to be in
Speaker 4: la than we already be out here with y'all, like
Speaker 4: everybody's been so inviting. So again, it's not that you know,
Speaker 4: there isn't any crime here, but I think that we're
Speaker 4: choosing to address the crime in a way that that
Speaker 4: erases our beauty and our humanity, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And like nobody's saying, don't address the crime. But we're
Speaker 4: like bro and dressed like you killing the notes, my g.
Speaker 2: Like it's different.
Speaker 4: Profile anymore, Like are like we're enhancing what's beautiful here
Speaker 4: versus like erasing the folks who wanted the crime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, most my when I when I was teaching out
Speaker 1: in with this like to your point. When I was teaching,
Speaker 1: there was this, uh, this kid I've said the story
Speaker 1: on the show before with this kid that used to
Speaker 1: show up like about team minutes late every time. He's
Speaker 1: a little chrollo dude, right, but on his bike. He'd
Speaker 1: walk in and he'd be like, what did I miss?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you missed the first fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: class every day, like you know. And then finally I
Speaker 1: asked him, you know at that point, you tardy three
Speaker 1: times you taught. That's a truancy, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying three truancies. I got to call it the truancy officer.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting excited, So now you have a record, right,
Speaker 1: So rather than doing that, I just asked him, like,
Speaker 1: why are you late every day? He's like, well, I
Speaker 1: have to drop my little brother off at school first.
Speaker 2: So he's a freshman.
Speaker 1: So but his dad was like kind of like a drinker,
Speaker 1: so he learned how to drive, so he would drive
Speaker 1: his brother to school, drive the car back home, and
Speaker 1: then take the bike to school, take the bike to
Speaker 1: school for him. And I'm like because he had to
Speaker 1: leave the car for his mom. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: So here's how I make you not a criminal for
Speaker 1: doing the right thing? Is I just I just don't
Speaker 1: mark you as absent?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I was like, so this is what I'll do
Speaker 1: for you, because I'm here and I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Also for you, I'm like, as long as you come
Speaker 1: in here every day with your work done, I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna market you know what I'm saying. And guess what,
Speaker 1: you know that boy came in here every day with
Speaker 1: his work done. You know what I'm saying, because he's
Speaker 1: clearly a responsible adult.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You just explain to me, Just explain to me you're
Speaker 1: not a criminal, that you're a responsible adult. So rather
Speaker 1: than treating you as such because eight point fifteen is arbitrary,
Speaker 1: you are here taking care of it.
Speaker 2: No, No, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it outside selling them, you know, selling
Speaker 1: bootlegs like okay.
Speaker 2: Is he trespassing?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: But hey, homie, how much you need to make today?
Speaker 1: I gotta make three hundred dollars. Then you get hold
Speaker 1: on real quick. Let me just go here, three hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: give me the movies.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Like that done? Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: sitting on saying skin Why it's because I'm from here,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Anyway, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: For us on the other side of this.
Speaker 1: So, okay, give me give me a gimme one Memphis
Speaker 1: phrase right now that like I would have no idea
Speaker 1: what you were saying unless from there, Dad.
Speaker 3: Okay, my wife is right here. Show you got a
Speaker 3: very mephis phrase out. I feel you might have it.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of music, so I might know, but.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, yeah you say greening them up.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: There you go and then flodging. Yeah that ma fliging bro.
Speaker 2: Man fliging greening the yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Greening them up flaging me like you don't tell us,
Speaker 1: don't tell us. I'm gonna make them look it up.
Speaker 1: All right, there it is. It's respect prospect, yeah, respect,
Speaker 1: All right, Now, don't you hit stop on this pod.
Speaker 1: You better listen to these credits. I need you to
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Speaker 1: produced by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network.
Speaker 1: Your theme music and scoring is also by the one
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Speaker 2: Still killing the beat softly, so listen. Don't let nobody
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Speaker 1: If you understand urban living, you understand politics.
Speaker 2: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all
Speaker 2: next week
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