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Speaker 1: So all right, let's break it on, fellas. We got
Speaker 1: an hour on this Christmas Eve to talk about the
Speaker 1: division title, the victory Cowboys twenty seven bucks twenty was
Speaker 1: that score again? Oh? This is the first time all
Speaker 1: year he's been right about anything, So now we have
Speaker 1: to like know about it. Go ahead, what did you
Speaker 1: do that was so special? Yesterday? He called the games,
Speaker 1: I called it, he called the score, Yeah, exactly. You
Speaker 1: know the last time I got one right when nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one, when the Cowboys beat the Redskins twenty four
Speaker 1: twenty one at the Redskins to ruin their undefeated season
Speaker 1: at that score right on the button. Yeah, So twice
Speaker 1: in twenty seven years, that's pretty good. That's impressive. Hun
Speaker 1: Nate Man last night he was going crazy. I think
Speaker 1: he wanted to score to be twenty six. I had
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty and he's like mister Field, he didn't
Speaker 1: want him to hit that last time. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to it at twenty six twenty on the gut feelings,
Speaker 1: you are taking our season, gut feeling title eleven and
Speaker 1: four on the gut feelings. By the way, I'm impressed
Speaker 1: by that. I got second. Yeah, all right, let's break
Speaker 1: the game down first. I got some questions for you
Speaker 1: guys coming up, not just about the game but about
Speaker 1: going forward here. But before we get that, your initial
Speaker 1: impressions of what they did yesterday to clinch the title
Speaker 1: and take care of business and win it at home.
Speaker 1: We'll start with Nate, Cowboys took the ease. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That is pretty simple. Pretty simple, man. I'm echo whatever
Speaker 1: Brian saying. No, I don't do that, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: echo what Mickey Spagnola said all year long. This offensive
Speaker 1: line had to play better when pass protection, and the
Speaker 1: fact that they went into this game, I felt like
Speaker 1: that that the Tampa Bay could present problems with their
Speaker 1: edge rushers that could present some problems inside to give
Speaker 1: up the one sack, and it really that was and
Speaker 1: when you go back and watch it. Boy. If Dak
Speaker 1: just steps up, he's got Cole Beasley laid on the break,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's going to find a way
Speaker 1: to you know, if he just step up, just step
Speaker 1: up in the pocket. I mean it was clean up front,
Speaker 1: and he spun right into the sack. The only thing
Speaker 1: that he could have done to hurt Suaphilo he did.
Speaker 1: Suafilo was struggling a little bit, but he was going
Speaker 1: to push this guy up the field, and that was
Speaker 1: Vita Vea. And man, if he just would have stayed
Speaker 1: and just climbed a little forward and then found Beasley
Speaker 1: over on the side there, it would have been a nice,
Speaker 1: pretty play. Offensive line I thought did a great job
Speaker 1: against a defensive line that I felt like going into
Speaker 1: this game could have present had some problems. They held
Speaker 1: him in check, ran the ball was well enough that
Speaker 1: they needed to and so give the We've been on
Speaker 1: this offensive line a lot, and I thought last night though,
Speaker 1: or yesterday afternoon, they won. The reasons why you guys
Speaker 1: won this game, Mick I thought two things. One very
Speaker 1: encouraging that the defense stepped up made plays like they
Speaker 1: have been all season long. Short of the Colts game,
Speaker 1: and then the second thing going forward. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's going forward this year or next year,
Speaker 1: but and this is kind of what I'm writing about
Speaker 1: in my column for today. The amount of young guys
Speaker 1: that made critical plays for them to win this game,
Speaker 1: I think is encouraging going forward. I've been talking all
Speaker 1: year about how young this team was, and nobody really
Speaker 1: wanted to admit it or agree with it. Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: second year player. I don't need to tell you what
Speaker 1: he did in the game, right, Probably the defensive star
Speaker 1: of the game. Rookie Michael Gallup catches a touchdown pass
Speaker 1: to kind of create the separation in this game. Layton Vanderish, rookie,
Speaker 1: single game high fifteen tackles And oh, by the way, Bucks,
Speaker 1: you picked the wrong guy to kick the on side
Speaker 1: kick too, because the guy with the best hands fielded
Speaker 1: the ball and put the game away. And they tried
Speaker 1: the old switchero They did their side yeah, and didn't
Speaker 1: fool anybody. First year guy Antoine Woods makes a tackle
Speaker 1: on the goal line to stop the first down and
Speaker 1: turn the ball over the Cowboys on fourth down. Jalen
Speaker 1: smith scoop and score second year player and as I
Speaker 1: told him after the game, I said, you think anybody
Speaker 1: else will question your knee after this? And he goes,
Speaker 1: would you do me a favor and just tweet that out?
Speaker 1: Just tweet it because no one was catching up with
Speaker 1: this dude running down the field and the only person
Speaker 1: that was with him was DeMarcus Lawrence. He had an
Speaker 1: escort the entire way. And oh, by the way, Brett
Speaker 1: maher first year kicker. I know he's kicked in the CFL,
Speaker 1: but this is his first year in the NFL. Hits
Speaker 1: his two field goals, one from fifty nine yards out,
Speaker 1: and if you just look at the amount of young
Speaker 1: guys that were starting on defense in this game, I
Speaker 1: think it bodes well for this team going forward, no
Speaker 1: matter what happens in the playoffs. I'd say Alazrael Man
Speaker 1: should agree with Mickey and not with me. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel this way right here, you know, just for
Speaker 1: him to pick themselves up as a team, do what
Speaker 1: idea yesterday to go out and earn the NFC East.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just proud of man. I'm proud of uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he said this all night the other Nightmake
Speaker 1: is mister Jones going out and observing where this division
Speaker 1: will is seven to eight games ago and saying we're
Speaker 1: in this in May. The moves and I don't even
Speaker 1: the trading for Cooper, but allowing Jason Garrett too. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, coach, thank you for what you've given us,
Speaker 1: but we're going a different route. Brought Colombo in, Yeah,
Speaker 1: brought huss and hawking. All of this happens because you
Speaker 1: have an owner slash GM that's saying, hey, okay, this letter,
Speaker 1: it happened, and broad us talking about that great last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I said it a few weeks ago. It
Speaker 1: looked like nine wins could get this thing, and it did.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who would have thought they
Speaker 1: would have clinched this thing with a week to go,
Speaker 1: sitting at five and to Mickey's point, a young football team.
Speaker 1: Really most people counted them out mid season. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are the odds that you're gonna make a run.
Speaker 1: Never have had it happened. They've never started three and
Speaker 1: five and made the playoffs. Yeah, now, they didn't have
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper first half of the season, but it's not
Speaker 1: just that move. Nate mentioned the offensive line coach change,
Speaker 1: Colombo's you know brought a different attitude. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any question about that. Can I name a couple
Speaker 1: other young guys that I thought stepped up absolutely, Malie
Speaker 1: Collins and Antoine Woods in the middle of the defensive line,
Speaker 1: especially All Stars, especially with Tyrone Crawford going down on
Speaker 1: the second play test results negative though on his neck
Speaker 1: sounds encouraging that he's gonna be fine. Um, but those
Speaker 1: guys stepped up, and the hot boys, I think they
Speaker 1: atoned for last week when they were just it was
Speaker 1: just out of character. The way they played against Indianapolis
Speaker 1: really team wide. Hey, even Taco Charlton had five tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he played very well in that game, and you know,
Speaker 1: and made a nice play on a tackle for lost
Speaker 1: kind of made it to Marcus Lawrence move where he's
Speaker 1: able to dip his shoulder and get underneath that Donovan
Speaker 1: Smith the tackle and kind of work down the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage on a redirection. So you know, the the
Speaker 1: idea of you know, earn Earn, Earn your jersey for
Speaker 1: the week is working with him. I mean that's that
Speaker 1: was a very positive sign and hopefully, you know, he's
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of chances to play this
Speaker 1: week too, you know, against the Giants, and hopefully he
Speaker 1: can continue to build on it, and you can when
Speaker 1: you get him in the playoffs that he can make
Speaker 1: some plays and be a good part of the rotation
Speaker 1: with what they what they they thrive on a rotation
Speaker 1: and that's what they need and they will they will,
Speaker 1: and they will need everybody in the playoffs because if
Speaker 1: you gonna put a team on your defensive back, that
Speaker 1: means our offensive line has to give great protection for
Speaker 1: the running pass and eat up a lot of clocks
Speaker 1: so these guys can stay healthy and fresh. Because we
Speaker 1: all said we challenge his defense. Oh well they pretty good.
Speaker 1: But you know, can they continue to stop to run?
Speaker 1: They continue to stop and run. Oh well, they need
Speaker 1: to get a few turnovers. Next thing, you know, turnovers
Speaker 1: are coming and uh the last to complete it was
Speaker 1: uh turnover with a return for six. Yeah that that
Speaker 1: was a nice man. And once these dudes are like
Speaker 1: piranhas now well he stopped. It was interesting in this
Speaker 1: game yesterday is you know the beating that we talked
Speaker 1: about overall that they took against the Colts and they
Speaker 1: had to play a lot of snaps yesterday. Yes Cowboys
Speaker 1: only ran fifty offensive plays and yeah, and they had
Speaker 1: to face eighty snaps thirty five minutes. So yeah, that
Speaker 1: they had eighty offensive snaps when you turn the ball
Speaker 1: out like that. Yeah, and basically they had to drive
Speaker 1: it back to back drives, right, and so yeah, it
Speaker 1: was that's a that's a gut check game. You'd lose
Speaker 1: Crawford very early in that game. Now, Randy Gregory traditionally
Speaker 1: doesn't play, but yeah, a whole lot the next note,
Speaker 1: he's in there and Tacos in there. I mean, they
Speaker 1: didn't have they didn't have the normal defensive tackle rotation
Speaker 1: that they could do with Crawford as well. So some
Speaker 1: guys after what they had to go through last week
Speaker 1: and then turn around and play this week with so
Speaker 1: much on the line for them, I mean that that
Speaker 1: you know that that worked out just fine because if
Speaker 1: you look and saw it, you saw what happened when
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, I mean that was that was crazy. And
Speaker 1: then to think that if you lose this game, that
Speaker 1: you have to go and win a game at the Giants,
Speaker 1: I mean after what, I mean, it just good, Like
Speaker 1: Nate says, you took care of it. You went out
Speaker 1: there and did it the right way. But a lot
Speaker 1: of guys defensively had to play a lot of snaps
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. You know, again, the physical beating
Speaker 1: they took last week, able to bounce back and play
Speaker 1: very well this week. Do you realize that when they
Speaker 1: returned that was their first return, by the way, for
Speaker 1: a touchdown all season long. Yes, but Tampa Bay had
Speaker 1: the ball for twelve minutes and fifty four seconds straight
Speaker 1: because they were driving. Yeah, you got the fumble return right,
Speaker 1: returned it for a touchdown. They came back, they had
Speaker 1: a drive for five to forty seven and seven h seven.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't touch the ball. Yeah, like twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: They ran twenty two offensive plays in the first half,
Speaker 1: and I was trying to find if that's some kind
Speaker 1: of record, because I can't imagine how often that has
Speaker 1: really ever happened, you know, in games that typically you know,
Speaker 1: you get sixty each yeah or less. Well, that's the reason.
Speaker 1: And then finally when they touched the ball after those
Speaker 1: twelve minutes and fifty three they went three and our
Speaker 1: three and out. Yeah, so they hardly had the ball
Speaker 1: the first half. Like you said, twenty two plays that
Speaker 1: should be a quarter Yeah yeah, so, Uh, I know
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna pick on the offense and they weren't perfect,
Speaker 1: but um, they weren't good. See this production I thought
Speaker 1: was better. Like I said, the production was better. The
Speaker 1: protection protection was better that that itself I thought was better.
Speaker 1: As our offensive line played better and as our quarterback
Speaker 1: played better, then then it was stopped. I mean it
Speaker 1: will stopped. It will stop if our line gets better
Speaker 1: and our quarterback get better, and being in unison, it
Speaker 1: will get better. Uh. It's never gonna be ugly until
Speaker 1: we do that. It's a mess. It's never gonna be
Speaker 1: cute until we do that. Uh, that's too much pressure
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. And yeah, that's that's you're asking
Speaker 1: too much. And we're asking too much of the line
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. We asked you too much of both
Speaker 1: because and I'm talking about defense, but I ain't talking
Speaker 1: about our offense. I'm talking all defense about defense, and
Speaker 1: now I understand that our offensive mind. This is my
Speaker 1: hat soft. This is first year we've had two three
Speaker 1: different guys come in and do what they've done on
Speaker 1: the offense and we still continue to win. But it's
Speaker 1: ugly right now, and we have to fix that if
Speaker 1: we want a serious chance in the playoffs. Nate just
Speaker 1: led me to my first question. Look at that, Look
Speaker 1: at that. I got some I got some tough questions
Speaker 1: for you. That's one of them. Won't we just start there? Okay?
Speaker 1: What's got to improve for them to make a run
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? And I know that. Look I'm staring
Speaker 1: at the helmet right now. They got the Giants in
Speaker 1: week seventeen, but they're looking ahead now. They got a
Speaker 1: game that's very meaningful in a couple of weeks. What's
Speaker 1: got to improve the most? And Nate says, you got
Speaker 1: to help out your defense. Right, the game has to
Speaker 1: be played by the books because you are a defensive
Speaker 1: led a team. What I mean, when the ball is
Speaker 1: kicking inside the twenty or inside the teen, you just
Speaker 1: can't flinging all over the place. You got to think
Speaker 1: about your defense. Well, do we do better with the
Speaker 1: run and putting this thing in third and four or
Speaker 1: third and three or less? We just slinging it like
Speaker 1: we did yesterday and go three and out. We ain't
Speaker 1: built that way yet. I don't. I don't know if
Speaker 1: our offensive line can hold on. But one thing that
Speaker 1: you asked one thing. Our offensive line has to play
Speaker 1: much much better for this team to to excel. You know,
Speaker 1: I was happy to see Cole Beasley get going yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's something that offensively can help. You know,
Speaker 1: Mickey's been talking about getting Michael Gallop going. I think
Speaker 1: that helped. I don't think there's any magical thing that
Speaker 1: teams are doing. Maury Cooper can't get open against any coverage.
Speaker 1: He really can. I mean, it's you know, it's just
Speaker 1: whether Dak Prescott wants to throw him the ball. But
Speaker 1: I was encouraged, I said, by the protection b I
Speaker 1: was ulso encouraged by Cole Beasley. I think Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: is always a great option here in the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, you need to use him if you don't
Speaker 1: want to sit there and if you can't run the ball.
Speaker 1: It's as effectively as you want to run the ball.
Speaker 1: You know. And maybe you know, you say, okay, you
Speaker 1: pounded in there with Zeke for three to four yards
Speaker 1: on first down whatever, But maybe some of those first
Speaker 1: down runs turn into play action pass and then you
Speaker 1: get Cole Beasley involved for five to seven yards and
Speaker 1: kind of move the chains that way. So I'm with
Speaker 1: Nate on on the protection. I don't know overall if
Speaker 1: it can improve. I think you'll improve if the health
Speaker 1: of Martin improves. But I think you are what you
Speaker 1: are at the center, and I think you are what
Speaker 1: you're at the left guard right now. And and Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: And I don't blame Tyron Smith with the holding calls,
Speaker 1: I really don't. He's just a dominant football player and
Speaker 1: he's and it's it's it's a hard thing for him
Speaker 1: because guys have gotten to the point with as soon
Speaker 1: as they get their hands he gets his hands on,
Speaker 1: they just turn and flop. When they turn and act
Speaker 1: like they can't make the play. I think they're in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, And that's that's a that's a point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's he's in. Jason he locked that
Speaker 1: guy up, he did, and it was it was Jason
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul that he got called on the holding call.
Speaker 1: But Pierre Paul didn't even try and disengage. He was
Speaker 1: so locked that guy up. He turned. Don't get me
Speaker 1: started on them, guys, Let's not do that. He turned
Speaker 1: his body in a way that made it look like
Speaker 1: he was being held and it's just it turn smith.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said this, he's so strong his hands. But
Speaker 1: to Nate's point, the offense, fine, I think they kind
Speaker 1: of are what they are. But you just gotta you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out the way. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to play through it. Tampa Bay thought they could cover
Speaker 1: Beasley in man in the slot. Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 1: It didn't work. They were they were using their one
Speaker 1: linebacker to kind of shade through to Cooper a little bit,
Speaker 1: and they let that guy in the slot take Beasley. Yep.
Speaker 1: I'll take that match up at me every day every
Speaker 1: day when he gets a free release like that, and
Speaker 1: the linebackers think they got other things to worry about, right,
Speaker 1: Beasley will hurt. You reminded me of the Jacksonville game
Speaker 1: where they said, hey, Tyler Patman, go stick Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: four quarters. Yeah, and look what happened. And really, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys it was a it was a wasted drive in
Speaker 1: the second half where he had three four catches, got
Speaker 1: him down in the red zone and then that's the
Speaker 1: one time it did stall. They were better down there yesterday.
Speaker 1: But you know they tried that into round basically to
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper for a s loss. We need to figure
Speaker 1: out though the way that play was blocked. And I
Speaker 1: wrote about last night, I did that guy come free?
Speaker 1: It was they didn't touch him. It was influence. They
Speaker 1: thought Jason Pierre Paul was going to chase the chase
Speaker 1: the thing. You know, Pierre Paul is one of these
Speaker 1: guys that but he's so smart, he's seen it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if you're gonna fool somebody, you gotta fool somebody
Speaker 1: that doesn't see that a lot. And the way that
Speaker 1: the way that uh that swings Jarwin, Jarwin reacted, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh can I get him? No, I can't
Speaker 1: get him, you know, And I felt like it was
Speaker 1: gonna be they were gonna arc release Jarwin and get
Speaker 1: him up on the safety because he was looking at
Speaker 1: the safety and oh I should have done well. He
Speaker 1: was trying to help the play. And the fact when
Speaker 1: I think it's surprised Jarwin that that Pierre Paul didn't
Speaker 1: react the way he did because using those defensive end,
Speaker 1: especially the ones in that situation, will rush that will
Speaker 1: they'll come down hard inside on the fake to chase
Speaker 1: the play. And in that case, at Pierre Paul he's
Speaker 1: seen it all. That's just a that's just a good
Speaker 1: football player kind of saying not today on my watch.
Speaker 1: But you know what was the good thing and the
Speaker 1: reason they were two of three in the red zone
Speaker 1: because they were two and three and first in goal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where they they created this face. They did different things,
Speaker 1: so that at least is going to give teams something
Speaker 1: to think about when they get down there. You know,
Speaker 1: they saw the reverse, they saw the pass to Gallop.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, Okay, we're just handing Zeke the ball. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know they they don't fight that one though. They'll
Speaker 1: they'll uh, they'll uh. They pulled off the read option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dak scores a touchdown. So they were showing different things
Speaker 1: down inside the ten yard line. That's I think. Have
Speaker 1: somebody to think about that. I think I think they're
Speaker 1: trying to make people think about stuff. This is where
Speaker 1: I get into it, and I'll ask you, guys, rob
Speaker 1: I don't mean to ask a question here, but I'll
Speaker 1: ask one. But do they do they not? It's not
Speaker 1: so much the offensive line that do they trust the
Speaker 1: tight ends the block? Do they try? I mean, do
Speaker 1: you miss is this what you miss Witten and Hannah
Speaker 1: and guys like that. When you want to really try
Speaker 1: and run the ball, I mean, is it do you
Speaker 1: have to kind of almost get in thirteen personnel and
Speaker 1: run it away? Run it away from the strength because
Speaker 1: you don't feel like that that Schultz and Jarwin and
Speaker 1: Rico are gonna be able to get any kind of pulls.
Speaker 1: Don't even go into three tight ends. Now three wide
Speaker 1: receivers and let's go. You know what's amazing. I thought
Speaker 1: they're gonna run quarterback draw too. Everybody's time about how
Speaker 1: restrict the space hills down there, and that restriction goes
Speaker 1: for the defense too. Yeah, and and to me, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm a neanderthal, and that's cool, but I gotta
Speaker 1: admit to everything. But what bothers me is the fact
Speaker 1: that if your offensive line I'm talking about from tackle
Speaker 1: to tackle understands that they cannot miss. I'm a guy
Speaker 1: can get can glade, can glaze off of you, but
Speaker 1: you cannot miss. And if you practice just a little
Speaker 1: bit of hesitation, even you have to catch that guy.
Speaker 1: You got one of the coldest running backs in the backfield.
Speaker 1: And that's what we did as offensive line. Like even
Speaker 1: if we called we got a yard a yard and
Speaker 1: a half and EF we catch this guy. Eventually, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to reach out to get in it. And
Speaker 1: when you do that, we're gonna finish you. And because
Speaker 1: they are restricted too, it ain't. But so many the
Speaker 1: defenses you can get in. Yeah, who's really got the
Speaker 1: advantage When you really think about offense, the officive line
Speaker 1: do so you can give them all the looks you won't.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's called load left or right.
Speaker 1: You put two tight ends in, you put a full
Speaker 1: back in, and you run that thing. 'reuph the butt
Speaker 1: of your guard and me in the center is double
Speaker 1: teening and that linebacker can't win because we're not moving
Speaker 1: off of him until this linebacker the size. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it would work. It will work because you got
Speaker 1: the running back and you had the fullback. This dude,
Speaker 1: it will work. Just one time it didn't work though,
Speaker 1: Right left. One time we did an open Yeah, we
Speaker 1: did it an open field. That's why it didn't work.
Speaker 1: And you said, you said everybody in the world knew
Speaker 1: we were gonna run that play. Yeah, right, But it's
Speaker 1: a restrictive space. I'm not saying. See I don't believe
Speaker 1: in create activity. I'm serious. I believe in not not
Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, I believe in players. Okay, I believe
Speaker 1: in players. Players make the plays I watched, I went
Speaker 1: back and watch. I went back and watched the highly
Speaker 1: innovative Rams they basted. The run a lot of the
Speaker 1: same plays we run offensively, offensively. So what I'm saying
Speaker 1: to myself, hold on, now, why is it working for
Speaker 1: them and not for us? Well, their office line is
Speaker 1: healthy and intact, and so when you run a jet
Speaker 1: sweep with one of their guys, you got to pay
Speaker 1: attention because it's gonna be well blocked up front. Oh
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Rams this year. Rams, not not
Speaker 1: those greatist show on turf. Rams, not the greatest show
Speaker 1: on Terifa. They ain't never run, they to right, Yes
Speaker 1: I do, that's why. Okay, Okay, Well let me ask
Speaker 1: you this real quick then, So you ain't gonna apologized
Speaker 1: this time right now, I'm not because I'm interested, Rob.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to break, you gotta be okay, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to break Christmas, keep going, keep going. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you this though, then, do you okay with
Speaker 1: that being said, do you believe in the personnel, the
Speaker 1: personnel of what. Yeah, your offensive line, yes, sir, And
Speaker 1: that's if you're saying, if it's not about if it's
Speaker 1: not about scheme, then you obviously feel like because y'all
Speaker 1: had a Hall of fame running y'all had a Hall
Speaker 1: of fame offens line. Yeah, but no, but what what's
Speaker 1: what's amazing is if you don't want to put you
Speaker 1: your line, your line out on blast and put them
Speaker 1: on one on one blocks. Yeah, give them, give them,
Speaker 1: give them a chance of double team some people. Okay,
Speaker 1: now forget low left. We got a all pro sitting
Speaker 1: over there right at right guard. Yeah, so let Looney
Speaker 1: come with him. Yeah. You know you gotta got an
Speaker 1: all pro left tackle too. Yeah. So I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: and we ain't trying to even get out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we ain't trying to get out there. So you're you're
Speaker 1: confident though, in this offensive line? Yeah? Yes, yes, because
Speaker 1: that that kills my argument that that that that's easy
Speaker 1: to teach, and it ain't. But many things you do
Speaker 1: now if if they load it up, so okay, we
Speaker 1: know you coming here. Yeah, okay, Now your tight ends
Speaker 1: become very very because now you got an option. You
Speaker 1: fake it down in there, so you pull it back
Speaker 1: because ain't nobody Russia now they're trying to stop the run.
Speaker 1: You pull it back there. Any one of these Titans,
Speaker 1: you pick either one. You won't just throw it to
Speaker 1: him now, okay, all right, let's throw it to the
Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver who was in man coverage and beat
Speaker 1: the devil out of that game. But see, this is
Speaker 1: another issue. This is another issue I have. And maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, and I want you, you and you to
Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong. Do not tell me that Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper is not a red zone threat. I can't tell
Speaker 1: you that. It bothers me. He said, Oh, well you
Speaker 1: don't have that, that's you do. He's number nineteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't let him do it. Yeah, I just believe
Speaker 1: that he has a hard time not getting open. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. All right, let's take our first break.
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Speaker 1: we just have one break today, so we're just gonna
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Speaker 1: us so you don't have to wrap the Christmas Show? Outside?
Speaker 1: Does the Christmas Show go on after? I think we're
Speaker 1: down to the final? Is today's the final night? Is
Speaker 1: it tonight's to find? And by the way, what time?
Speaker 1: It's easily? Oh, I usually should be listening to Bill Jones.
Speaker 1: It's six o'clock, six o'clock. Yet last one see the
Speaker 1: cheerlead at five o'clock and a bunch of money. I
Speaker 1: thought you, I thought the halftime show the cheerleaders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yesterday knocked it out of the part. You guys probably
Speaker 1: don't get to see it. No, it's great. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I actually watched it. It was not
Speaker 1: what I What I try to do with me and
Speaker 1: brought us try to do is we try to go
Speaker 1: back and you know, go over the first half, and
Speaker 1: that is the stuff we we kind of work, you
Speaker 1: know doing that period. You know what I can I
Speaker 1: can work. You want to see my halftime analysis, right,
Speaker 1: Look at all that red man looks like Santa's list.
Speaker 1: I would get big going if I said that, I
Speaker 1: knew I would get don't knock his hustle man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened. Here's and here's halftime. Okay, Winston seventeen of
Speaker 1: twenty six one eighty Dak nine of twelve for seventy five,
Speaker 1: ZEK seven for forty six. Cowboys only twenty two plays
Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixteen yards, Tampa Bay forty two
Speaker 1: plays for two hundred and eight yards. It's their m
Speaker 1: O risk. They passed those sheets out of the press. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't wait for the sheets. I get it myself.
Speaker 1: The sheets don't show up till the start of the
Speaker 1: third quarter. And then and then it when thing's wrong,
Speaker 1: and then Purcel's I can hear him now one wrong,
Speaker 1: all wrong, that's right, ass Lamicky, I'm not kidding. That's right, coach,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. All right, I'm gonna continue on with
Speaker 1: my questions for you. Fokays. All right, cool, best move
Speaker 1: this team has made this season. It can be a
Speaker 1: higher it could be a trade, it could be a
Speaker 1: position change. Give me something that's right, be so by
Speaker 1: it's Marie. So what's why don't we just say other
Speaker 1: than that, other than other than the Marti? Yeah, other
Speaker 1: than I think you could you could alight that one
Speaker 1: actually if you want. Yeah, But I think you know,
Speaker 1: I think, to me, the most most unselfish thing that
Speaker 1: I've seen on this football team, and there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of guys who have been very unselfish. The way
Speaker 1: was what Rod Marinelli has done to allow Chris Rashard
Speaker 1: to be what Chris Rashard can be. Where I was
Speaker 1: going that hire is up there, I think Chris, I
Speaker 1: love you know. The team was three and five, I
Speaker 1: get it, but the defense was playing that, you know,
Speaker 1: the offense was the one that struggled. He didn't trade
Speaker 1: for a pass rusher or a corner or a linebacker.
Speaker 1: He traded for a He traded basically for an offensive
Speaker 1: player to try and help his defense. And I give
Speaker 1: I give Rod Marinelli a ton of credit somebody that
Speaker 1: understands chain of command, military guy, teamwork, camaraderie, you know,
Speaker 1: getting the job done. He could have he could have
Speaker 1: just made Chris Rashard's job miserable, you know, and said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I want to do. But he
Speaker 1: really hasn't. He's from the word go, he's embraced him
Speaker 1: being here and it's and it's made a difference on
Speaker 1: this defense. Look at the moves they made of moving
Speaker 1: Byron Jones the corner and playing all those young kids
Speaker 1: at Mickey just rattled off, you know, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it is because that's how
Speaker 1: you drafted these guys. But a lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do with a coach stepping up saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: put this guy at corner. See what you're doing. It's
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, you know, I give I give Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli a lot of credit for this one. That's one
Speaker 1: of the ones that if you say, um, if you
Speaker 1: say move him, allowing Christopher Shard to be Christoper Shard
Speaker 1: was my best move. I got twofold twofold babies. Let's
Speaker 1: fold it up, and they're kind of the same. When
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to s can Randy Gregory, Wow, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: stuck with him, tried to bring him along, and now
Speaker 1: suddenly here at the end of the season, it's and
Speaker 1: he's got if I I six sacks now for a
Speaker 1: guy that hadn't played football basically in a year, and
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing the talent that he has. And
Speaker 1: last night it was needed. When Crawford went out um
Speaker 1: he ended up playing. He ended up playing fifty three snaps,
Speaker 1: sixty six percent. Childton was forty six naps fifty eight percent.
Speaker 1: So those guys took over for losing. Tyrone Crawford, who
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys on this defense will tell
Speaker 1: you he's the conscience of that defense. He's the leader,
Speaker 1: and they were able to win a game without him
Speaker 1: and Sean Lee on the field. So Randy Gregory number one,
Speaker 1: sticking with him and trying to bring him back as
Speaker 1: a person. After the game, he really didn't want to talk,
Speaker 1: he said, he did a little bit. When I went
Speaker 1: up to him, he goes, I just want to play
Speaker 1: and go home. I said, but you deserve to talk,
Speaker 1: and he goes, nah, I'm not all about that. And
Speaker 1: then UH, give give a big hand, uh to talk
Speaker 1: to doctor Dan Cooper for fixing that Jalen Smith knee
Speaker 1: and that the Cowboys. I know they rolled the dice
Speaker 1: with it, and sometimes you lose those things. Sure, but
Speaker 1: that kid who worked hard to get back to where
Speaker 1: he's at now, and I think those two guys made
Speaker 1: a huge difference in the game last night. So I'll
Speaker 1: go there. Tip of the Captain Britt Brown too, Yes,
Speaker 1: for the rehab, rehab and everybody a tip of the
Speaker 1: captain Jalen as as Bason Garrett said last night, Hey,
Speaker 1: those are lonely days. Were out there rose two guys
Speaker 1: out for an entire year. They were out there by
Speaker 1: themselves a lot when people weren't watching. Jaylen has said
Speaker 1: that Britt is almost like another dad, you know, the
Speaker 1: way he's just been on him and on him in
Speaker 1: tough love and and and Jalen's his attitude coming back.
Speaker 1: I think he said last night, I never doubted myself
Speaker 1: because too many people did so I couldn't afford to.
Speaker 1: And I mean the speed on that sixty nine yard return.
Speaker 1: If there's any question, any question about him being back.
Speaker 1: There were wide receivers chasing him by the way, and
Speaker 1: they weren't gaining ground. Who you got, Nate, that's a Mari.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no no. We're gonna
Speaker 1: leave a Mari to you. Rob, No, no, no no, I
Speaker 1: got another one. Actually, yeah, this is this is for
Speaker 1: the first time and Cowboys, in the last recent four
Speaker 1: or five years, for the first time, we have seen
Speaker 1: what a good scouting department can do as far as
Speaker 1: going out getting young players, as far as going out
Speaker 1: getting pro personnel. Yeah, I'm going back to the offensive line.
Speaker 1: We have Looney, have Sue Fela, We have Cam Fleming,
Speaker 1: who I just ragged. Well, you know how bad I
Speaker 1: talked about no in oxnar Go Bay. Yeah, these guys
Speaker 1: have filled in a pro personnel and what I call
Speaker 1: him Jesus a little. You know, the guys have went
Speaker 1: out and did great things that let this team be
Speaker 1: where it's at. Yeah, you know, they have done it
Speaker 1: many the human law human law me. Wow. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: how about the scouny department, you know, making determination that
Speaker 1: with you know, I would have never dreamed working here
Speaker 1: that I would seeing Sean Lee be a healthy scratch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have dreamed it. But but by going out
Speaker 1: and getting the guys they had the jail and Smith's
Speaker 1: and that, you know, I mean the fact that they
Speaker 1: trust Joe Thomas, they trust, they trust you know, march Lillard.
Speaker 1: You know, they trust these guys. They let them play man,
Speaker 1: they let him play. We got vander esh draft night
Speaker 1: on the on the board right now on the screen,
Speaker 1: and that was that was my pick. And it kind
Speaker 1: of goes into Mickey's point about all these young guys.
Speaker 1: Just how many home grown guys they've got. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't a sexy draft pick. I mean linebacker, you know,
Speaker 1: but they had the long term vision of we know
Speaker 1: what's what's wrong with this defense? When Sean is out right?
Speaker 1: And I mean that was just another monster performance from
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderrett yesterday and Jalen Smith as well. Those guys
Speaker 1: have absolutely balled at a level that's a Pro Bowl level,
Speaker 1: even though they didn't get in. Let me say this here,
Speaker 1: boy and brought has brought this to my attention. Man,
Speaker 1: did you know this boy cover yesterday like a beast? Jaylen? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: at first I didn't notice it. May come I'm looking.
Speaker 1: He said, Man, that was a nice cover by Jaylen,
Speaker 1: But you're going back. He had two or three nice covers,
Speaker 1: and that to me, you have to scout these guys.
Speaker 1: You have to do the medical with Britt Brown and
Speaker 1: all that. I'm talking about, the whole deal, the medical
Speaker 1: staff they put together with these last two three years.
Speaker 1: And if tackle can come in and prove himself, man,
Speaker 1: what bad player did have? Well, all the players they
Speaker 1: have in the Pro Bowl, the f guys were all
Speaker 1: drafted by this organization. And I talked to Will about
Speaker 1: this the other day and he put the credit on
Speaker 1: the coaching staff for sure. These guys in the right spot.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's the vision of that front office though.
Speaker 1: Start it starts there right right when you were talking
Speaker 1: about covering. The thing that Jalen and vander Esh do
Speaker 1: so well is they may catch the ball underneath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to be right there in your jock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as soon as you catch it. They broke up a
Speaker 1: couple passes like that. Their ability to run to the
Speaker 1: football after the catch is quite remarkable. I just believe that,
Speaker 1: like Xavier Woods when you building the team, oh man,
Speaker 1: like they trying to trying to do here and it
Speaker 1: was ugly year man, that's why you know, office line,
Speaker 1: it's been ugly. But we have never been able to
Speaker 1: in the last two years. Every other year when we
Speaker 1: have a bad team, we can't overcome the adversity. A
Speaker 1: coach get him say, hey, I like to appreciate, but
Speaker 1: I'm telling about games where it's just ugly. It is
Speaker 1: flat out Yeah. The next man up works when you
Speaker 1: have players, yes, that are able, and a lot of
Speaker 1: the times that's your skying department disable to find those guys,
Speaker 1: and the coaches developed guys too. Look at that play
Speaker 1: right down man, it's bad radio man. But they can't
Speaker 1: see what we see that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They can't see that because you know they can't see
Speaker 1: that they should be watching watch it right. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that right there was by Vanish at home Human Law.
Speaker 1: That was a great play man, look at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are great plays by like Mick said, like by
Speaker 1: young guys man coming down hill. I mean that I
Speaker 1: don't have them often. For my friend that I answered
Speaker 1: to your own question, I mentioned Layton, Uh and what
Speaker 1: the front office has done with some of these homegrown guys.
Speaker 1: Brian mentioned five guys in the Pro Bowl, all draft picks,
Speaker 1: all high draft picks, but nevertheless they got them right. Um.
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper is a pretty good move though too. When
Speaker 1: you're three and five, you make that move and then
Speaker 1: they go on this run and he has certainly helped
Speaker 1: the offense out giving him You know, that's a big
Speaker 1: that's a big picture move right there. Yeah. I said
Speaker 1: it last night, and I appreciate Nate bringing it up.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones deserves a lot of credit for because nobody
Speaker 1: hates giving up draft picks, especially high draft picks, more
Speaker 1: than him, And for him to sit there and say
Speaker 1: I got to do something for my football team. I've
Speaker 1: got to do something in this division. He did exactly
Speaker 1: what he needed to do. So that's what you're you know,
Speaker 1: that's what general managers do. They have their good days,
Speaker 1: they have their bad days. Jerry's had both. But in
Speaker 1: this case he helped his football team. Ah, they just
Speaker 1: needed Hudson Houck back here. Hey, that helped too, and
Speaker 1: that that offensive line shift that Nate mentioned a few
Speaker 1: minutes ago with Colombo, no question about it. And it
Speaker 1: gets better though. Yeah, it helps getting Zach Martin back
Speaker 1: and see a Filo back healthy the other day yesterday. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, go ahead and just look quickie. We I
Speaker 1: hope we don't lose none of these guys. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope because every team ever you lose thirty five
Speaker 1: percent of day players. You don't know, Jones, whether you
Speaker 1: don't know whether there's a core player or you know
Speaker 1: high it's gonna fake your team or is it just
Speaker 1: a phillying guy. But we got depth. We got depth now,
Speaker 1: competitive depth in that that that's hard to get in
Speaker 1: his league today. That's why you just send out send
Speaker 1: out the signal right now about free agency. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about free agency. Worry about resigning the guys you got, yeah,
Speaker 1: lest the majority of them, and I hope they had
Speaker 1: that fire bro And you know it starts with Tank.
Speaker 1: But you do have Byron for another year under contract.
Speaker 1: You gotta, Mari Cooper. You got to figure it out.
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback, quarterback under contract for one more year.
Speaker 1: But you gotta start thinking down the roads. Beasley as
Speaker 1: a free agent, I believe us after the season. Okay,
Speaker 1: next question, looking forward to this coming week. I've heard
Speaker 1: the answer from Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett, But what
Speaker 1: would you guys do with your starters in week seventeen
Speaker 1: against the Giants, knowing that you're locked into the number
Speaker 1: four seed no matter what happens against the Giants at
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands on Sunday, and knowing and knowing I only
Speaker 1: got forty six guys on game day of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is a case by case deal. That's that's the only
Speaker 1: way you can look at it. Seven years, eight year veteran,
Speaker 1: don't get you off. It's a case by case deal.
Speaker 1: My numbers would be four, twenty one, and seventy. That's
Speaker 1: kind of how I would rest that's where I would
Speaker 1: start whole game or whole game, Okay, I'll throw seventy
Speaker 1: seven in there, Okay, anybody that's had something, or in
Speaker 1: the case of the quarterback, he's the quarterback out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback plays a quarter. Yeah, go back
Speaker 1: to what they did in twenty sixteen. I've played a quarter, right.
Speaker 1: I believe this right here. I saw a game with
Speaker 1: remember that one time that the clinch in Washington. He
Speaker 1: played the starters almost into the fourth quarter with Romo
Speaker 1: and Dez Bryan and those guys. I believe this right here,
Speaker 1: and I call them what you need to call me,
Speaker 1: act the Neanderthal. If Dak is in there, everybody that's
Speaker 1: capable of plan needs to be with it, be in
Speaker 1: there right right if he plays, That's why I took
Speaker 1: him out. Everybody plays one. If you don't play one quarter,
Speaker 1: you know, do you do what you want? But if
Speaker 1: you keep it on a basis individual basis, player by player,
Speaker 1: you'll be all right. You know, Like I say, just
Speaker 1: called you. How about ninety thinking about him too, He's
Speaker 1: had a little something this season at times with the shoulder.
Speaker 1: Case by case, he's pretty I don't know what you do.
Speaker 1: How how bad is this thing? Nick for number ninety Lawrence, Well,
Speaker 1: he's been playing with that break shoulder. Yeah. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: but this might be gaming once to play because Nate Solder,
Speaker 1: those guys can't my patch's numbers a little bit. Those
Speaker 1: I just I just believe, Yeah, and the reason why
Speaker 1: I bring it. You go ahead, Nate, Sorry, I just
Speaker 1: believe that it's a case by case basis. And but
Speaker 1: you play Sean Lee, No, he plays Vanders or Jay No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you just keep the rotation. No, you keep the rotation.
Speaker 1: And then this is Joe Thomas ready? Is is the
Speaker 1: Covington ready? Yeah? If these guys are ready? Yeah, Kevington's
Speaker 1: been kind of a healthy scratch all year. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: let him go, but I'd like to see him play
Speaker 1: a half. Here's here's what Jason Garrett said last night.
Speaker 1: When asked, he said, if guys are injured, obviously they
Speaker 1: aren't going to play. If guys are able to play,
Speaker 1: we're gonna play them. We've got an important ball game
Speaker 1: in New York next week. And he's I think he's
Speaker 1: speaking to momentum. He's and keeping momentum. But he's got
Speaker 1: to say this, so his players don't shut down, right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to forfeit three days of practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are three days of practice. You get to get
Speaker 1: ready for the for the playoffs. So you don't tell
Speaker 1: anybody Nate Newton, guess what on Wednesday? You're not playing
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Well, then Nate Newton doesn't practice. He ain't trying.
Speaker 1: This is what I this is, this is what I
Speaker 1: think this week. Get ready for Seattle. I just Jason
Speaker 1: gonna gonna keep his guys going. Yeah, and he may
Speaker 1: some shock us all with a half on what you mean,
Speaker 1: he may shock because you don't have a veteran team
Speaker 1: that knows what do even even when I look at
Speaker 1: the Rams, you can shut it down if you won't.
Speaker 1: But your momentumate there. Yeah, you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: like the Saints, she did came back and got that win.
Speaker 1: So if they wasn't saying, hey, hey, you know we
Speaker 1: got but we we had two weeks, ugly man, we
Speaker 1: have been winning and this is a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: we gotta clean up. So it's a thought. You and
Speaker 1: if you think about twenty sixteen that when they only
Speaker 1: played like a quarter, it took the offense a half
Speaker 1: to get going against Green Bay. Yeah, the second half
Speaker 1: they started moving, sir, Is that a real thing? Nate?
Speaker 1: The rest versus rust And I know the Cowboys don't
Speaker 1: have a buy, but this is an opportunity to rest.
Speaker 1: Guys if you want this week, like he said, number
Speaker 1: seventy Martin, Yeah, yeah, you know Elliott would use it
Speaker 1: would help him. Todd Gurley's not gonna play anymore. He's
Speaker 1: gonna win the rushing title. He's up by Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just look. Yeah, Todd Gurley is gonna have to have
Speaker 1: an incredible game next week for him to do They're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that because he got in bad needs
Speaker 1: didn't play this pass week. He's up one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty three yards. Yeah, yeah, so I am not playing
Speaker 1: number twenty one. He had twenty three touches again yesterday eighteen.
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson, this is your life. Hey, let's see if
Speaker 1: Rod Smith he's a giant killer. He did it last
Speaker 1: year running and receiving. Yeah, why not let those two
Speaker 1: guys handle it. Yeah, sailors right here, Connor Williams get
Speaker 1: in there and get a little block and going on,
Speaker 1: I can say mega's forty six guys. You got what
Speaker 1: fifted something in practice. Squad players that you can pick from,
Speaker 1: but you can't deplete your team to the point where
Speaker 1: Dak is in troublef he plays. Yeah, so if Dak plays,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for everybody else to play. But if
Speaker 1: he don't play, then this or what's what? But uh,
Speaker 1: be honest with me, I'm just worried about my defense.
Speaker 1: It's just I want to see I want to see
Speaker 1: those guys. I want to see those guys get after
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. I watched the little Eli Manning on Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know when I was here, and he's gotten worse.
Speaker 1: He really has. I mean he has, but the team
Speaker 1: is playing better. The Giants are playing better. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he but he's Yeah. They were, yeah, but they were,
Speaker 1: they were. They were on the course to try and
Speaker 1: be eight and eight and they and they That gets
Speaker 1: to Tennessee the Barking play. Yeah, they've been playing these
Speaker 1: say this right here. Beckham didn't Yeah, Beckham hadn't played.
Speaker 1: But let me say this right here. Still, Manny, he's
Speaker 1: the biggest flincher in the world throwing that ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but let me say this right here, Yes, sir, if
Speaker 1: Barkley plays, oh, he'll play. I promise you, if you
Speaker 1: don't want to get hurt, you better not take this
Speaker 1: team lightly because this kid knows nothing but to hurt you. Sure,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna just think about it now. If you
Speaker 1: have it on Barkley, yeah, he gonna punish you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if you in there as a starter or you
Speaker 1: in there, you you better be bringing everything you got
Speaker 1: because man, I've seen this kid do some amazing things
Speaker 1: to people, many shaking them out of their boots, are
Speaker 1: running slap dead over him. Let's get going, cabin Frasier
Speaker 1: and Thompson and those guys. Yeah, y'all seeing this kid. Yes,
Speaker 1: here's my top rated player in the draft last year.
Speaker 1: Actually Martin was no, no, yeah, the kid they Quentin Nelson.
Speaker 1: Nelson was, but he's right there. He was number two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the thing about the rest, I just thought
Speaker 1: of this this morning. If you're the head coach, you
Speaker 1: have to put in the back of your mind you
Speaker 1: don't know when you're gonna play next week, but it
Speaker 1: could be Saturday night. Don't they have game Saturday? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean there's a possibility that your team is playing
Speaker 1: your first playoff game on a short week. Did you
Speaker 1: say reps or refs? He said, rest Oh, okay, we're
Speaker 1: not talking refs today. We'll let Bill can let you
Speaker 1: do that this week coming up, but we're not doing
Speaker 1: that today. We all have time. We have too much
Speaker 1: to marry Christmas. Re creative referee guilty animal. Yeah, Oh
Speaker 1: I know, man, go ahead, Rob, You're a good point
Speaker 1: to what do you what do you all? I mean?
Speaker 1: Is that is that something you have to think about
Speaker 1: if you're Jason, that we might be playing you know? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is my thought. This is my thought.
Speaker 1: Fox A is not going to give up the game.
Speaker 1: I don't think they will. That's right. Be you're playing
Speaker 1: a West Coast team potentially in Seattle, so you're not
Speaker 1: going to be early, you know for TV markets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of thinking you're gonna be the late
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Okay, that's kind of where I think
Speaker 1: this is going have the option to not give that
Speaker 1: game up. Well, NBC is gonna fight like a SOB,
Speaker 1: but usually NBC will go they play the Saturday night games,
Speaker 1: they'll play the Saturn game and they'll probably they could
Speaker 1: take New England. Then they they hope they hope New
Speaker 1: England gets a game, and then they could it snows
Speaker 1: like a you know what, that's what they want. They
Speaker 1: want the cold. They'll take the coldest weather team and
Speaker 1: put them out there and say, okay, let's hope for
Speaker 1: a snow game. Well, New England clinched lie yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're but they're but they're not. They're the second
Speaker 1: seed right now, right now, behind Kansas. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: went even they might not know, they might not play.
Speaker 1: But if Houston, if they were to lose and then
Speaker 1: Houston jump back in, so it might be a thing.
Speaker 1: Houston will get a game and traditionally Houston play. The
Speaker 1: last time that Oakland was in the playoffs, I think
Speaker 1: the last time that Houston was in the playoffs, they
Speaker 1: played the Saturday afternoon game. The Monday Night Crew took
Speaker 1: that one, but they played it on a Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1: If I'm right about that, it sounds right. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Houston being a Houston being a team that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not a lot of people will watch, they tend
Speaker 1: to kind of knock those games out on Saturday, if
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just something to think about.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Ravens. Ravens could be involved here, you know,
Speaker 1: that's those are kind of your Saturday games. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it's alright, yeah, I mean we're at that point,
Speaker 1: right they I think the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna play late Sunday a right personally, and just
Speaker 1: to recap their two possibilities after this Giants game first
Speaker 1: round Seattle, that's the way it is right now, right,
Speaker 1: and Minnesota is a possibility as well. And Philly's trying
Speaker 1: to get the sixth seed at this point. But Philly,
Speaker 1: Philly needs to win in a Minnesota loss and they're in.
Speaker 1: They get they get a Minnesota lost, they're in. But
Speaker 1: as those six seeds, So the Cowboys wouldn't So that
Speaker 1: means they would have to go They would go to
Speaker 1: Chicago and then Dallas. This is the way Dallas could
Speaker 1: get it if if you think about it, this is
Speaker 1: the way Dallas if you beat Okay, I'm really going
Speaker 1: way ahead. No, but I know where you're going on
Speaker 1: that rabbit. I'm going get to this. You'll play the
Speaker 1: Rams instead of playing the Saints, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then you know, you take your chances. What if Okay,
Speaker 1: what if Philadelphia goes and wins against Chicago, and Chicago
Speaker 1: that means that they would go and play the Saints.
Speaker 1: Then that would mean you win your game, you would
Speaker 1: have to go to Los Angeles. I'll take my chances
Speaker 1: with the Rams. I really will take my chances with
Speaker 1: the Rams over playing having to go to play a
Speaker 1: game in New Orleans in the divisional round. If you
Speaker 1: want to say, Okay, you know, you find a way
Speaker 1: to beat the Rams. Now you're you know, maybe you're
Speaker 1: back in New Orleans. Saints probably weren't happy about that.
Speaker 1: Eating No, not at all, trust me, I know, I
Speaker 1: know inside information there. No, they weren't happy all. But
Speaker 1: but that that's kind of where you're at, if you
Speaker 1: if you really, if you get you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia has a better chance of beating the
Speaker 1: Bar then Minnesota does. And I think they play this weekend,
Speaker 1: don't they. Vikings play at the Bears and then they
Speaker 1: have to turn around and do it again. We've seen
Speaker 1: that happen before, right him, Man, see Philly, Philly I
Speaker 1: think has a better chance of going and beat in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and then that would mean that they would have to
Speaker 1: go then take on the Saints the first seed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Philly's kind of got that look of you don't want
Speaker 1: to play, but but if if you want to knock out,
Speaker 1: if you want to knock out the Saints, they need
Speaker 1: they need many to win. They need to win win
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota loss. Okay, okay, And so Minnesota play
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Bears. Yeah, okay, all right. Now
Speaker 1: the Bears are in a situation where they're not they're
Speaker 1: they're locked in the third seed, right yeah, yes, and
Speaker 1: they are. They gonna show everything against Minnesota because they
Speaker 1: play them if they if they lose the game, they'll
Speaker 1: play them again the next week. It's a great if
Speaker 1: Minnesota beats the Bears. Yeah, Seattle loses, well, Seattle would
Speaker 1: still be the sixth seed. Yeah, that's at it right here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll put that together. I pray to God Backley don't
Speaker 1: play but a quarter. Well, if you're just looking ahead,
Speaker 1: what's your what's your path? What's your best path? And
Speaker 1: not to happen? Do we all feel like New Orleans
Speaker 1: is the best team in the conference? Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: especially if they're playing at home. Yeah, avoid Now, Philadelphia
Speaker 1: went to New Orleans and got their you know what
Speaker 1: handed to them. You know, will that happen again if
Speaker 1: they had together? You know, what's the best way you
Speaker 1: can You can maybe knock out the Rams. Maybe you
Speaker 1: get Philadelphia to knock off Saint knock off New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Now you're hosting the NFC championship game. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: right about that. That's a crazy scenario. But yeah, it's possible.
Speaker 1: I think when Philadelphia has done to these last two weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh but they clearly this quarterback that won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl for him last year's playing unbelievably. Well, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I just beat the Rams, beat the Texans on must
Speaker 1: win games, have to win games, win your home playoff
Speaker 1: game first, and then I oh, I know, it's it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, but just stop Barkley. I don't get
Speaker 1: ran over and hurt by Barkley. Absolutely, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about Barkley. I'm really not. I am. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about this game. I'm worried about the playoff game, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about it. Barkley playing. It doesn't matter, doesn't matter, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, all right. We only got a couple
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw a guy for Seattle last night.
Speaker 1: You know, the right tackle ran down open field and
Speaker 1: I tried to block somebody that got through a move
Speaker 1: when he twisted. Is That's what I'm saying. Worry about Seattle? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it could very well be Seattle in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, all right. Nate spoke eloquently about what's got
Speaker 1: to improve, talk about helping out that defense. Yeah, tell me, guys,
Speaker 1: Brian Mickey to make a run in this playoffs. What's
Speaker 1: got to improve from what you've seen in the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Well, for the offense to improve, the
Speaker 1: offensive line needs to keep playing better, and they're not
Speaker 1: there yet. Can't let the quarterback get sacked the way,
Speaker 1: and I know everybody wants to blame he holds the
Speaker 1: ball too long. You know, I saw Drew Brees getting
Speaker 1: sacked last night. He was holding the ball because he's
Speaker 1: trying to get the diron thing down the field. Right,
Speaker 1: So the people that don't like Dak they grab that,
Speaker 1: they do. He hangs out the ball too long. All right? Fine,
Speaker 1: chas that I know if he's not wrong, But I'm
Speaker 1: not wrong because I know what people are gonna say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: guy was twenty of twenty five. I know it was
Speaker 1: only one hundred and sixty one yards. His quarterback rating
Speaker 1: was one oh six one oh six. Okay, so did
Speaker 1: he miss a throw down the field to the tight
Speaker 1: end to Jarwin. Yeah he did. He went underneath. He's
Speaker 1: got to step up and throw that ball. But again,
Speaker 1: you don't know what he's looking at, what's in front
Speaker 1: of him. But if offensive line protects him, this offense
Speaker 1: isn't bad. They can hurt somebody with the talent they have.
Speaker 1: They got to protect and they got to protect for
Speaker 1: the run. Brian Brown's got the last word? Is this
Speaker 1: just about the line or what they have to prove overall? Overall? What? What?
Speaker 1: What concerns you about this team? What do they need
Speaker 1: to improve to make or run here in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Yeah, I think it's all. It's all about
Speaker 1: the quarterback and whatever you can do to help this quarterback,
Speaker 1: whether that means the protection, the routes, the play calling,
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do to help him along. He's
Speaker 1: proven before to you though he could play in a
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yes, he went toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: you know, and and was no worse for wear. I
Speaker 1: mean that that was just a brilliant game by Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He's got some playoff experience, he's got an understanding, he's
Speaker 1: got that feeling. He's going to compete. He's gonna give
Speaker 1: you everything he has. Make sure you do everything in
Speaker 1: your power as a coaching staff and as his teammates
Speaker 1: to try and help him have success. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of things. The line, the receivers, the routes, the tight ends,
Speaker 1: the backs, all that he needs. Wherever you have to do.
Speaker 1: Just keep him focused on what he needs to do. Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. What you got? Oh you see it?
Speaker 1: Look at that? Yeah, this is the Looney Tree. And
Speaker 1: that's how we're gonna wrap up today's show. Everybody, thanks
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us, ken't for producing. Thanks the
Speaker 1: is it the Looney Trees? That thanks mister Looney for
Speaker 1: joining us as well. We'll see you guys after the holidays. Huh.
Speaker 1: That's right. Absolutely had a big impact. Oh, Barkley, don't
Speaker 1: play this week, Barry Christmas. Happy holidays, everybody. We'll do
Speaker 1: our normal shows. I think Wednesday we'll get back going.
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