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Speaker 1: twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number sixty three. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: media review kind of stuff. Today. I got a lot
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Speaker 1: I do want to first talk about trade deadline that
Speaker 1: happens today at three pm. It'll be uh the the
Speaker 1: NFL has the deadline set right now. If you look
Speaker 1: across the Cowboys team, and I know wide receiver is
Speaker 1: to push the position that everybody's talking about, but let's say,
Speaker 1: outside of wide receiver, what position do you think on
Speaker 1: this team can have can be best improved by maybe
Speaker 1: looking at an opportunity to go and make a trade.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Barry, because I'm thinking, are you thinking a
Speaker 1: little bit of making over here? We're talking about outside
Speaker 1: outside of our receive because we're gonna assume wide receivers
Speaker 1: are that group. Ain't getting no separation. R I ain't
Speaker 1: get no separation right now. But um, I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I like what they did along the defensive line bringing
Speaker 1: Hankins in there, because we know right now that Cowboys
Speaker 1: defense is struggling when it against the run. I think
Speaker 1: they're like twenty or twenty first in the league right now.
Speaker 1: Gets to run and for them to go to where
Speaker 1: they want to go, that's not gonna work. So I
Speaker 1: like what they did. They're bringing a guy out there
Speaker 1: that can stuff to run up. To me, I would
Speaker 1: love to see them do something at the second level.
Speaker 1: The linebacker crew. Now, I understand, we got LV there,
Speaker 1: we got Anthony Barr out there, and we got a
Speaker 1: lot of young talent underneath them cocks. You know, Damon
Speaker 1: Clark had his first couple snaps in there this last game.
Speaker 1: But to me, I think we just need more of
Speaker 1: a like a downhill guy, like kind of like a
Speaker 1: Rod quantsman. But he's going on the other side. I
Speaker 1: understand all that, but I love his mentality when it
Speaker 1: comes to the run game downhill. When he hits you
Speaker 1: at the point of attack, you're going down and they
Speaker 1: know leaky yardage involved. And that's why I see a
Speaker 1: lot of our linebackers. They may be in the right
Speaker 1: place at the right time, but when they get to
Speaker 1: that point of attack, it's a lot of leaky yardage two, three,
Speaker 1: four yards down Labroun. Then they're bringing them down. They're
Speaker 1: tackling them like it's a safety out there. To me,
Speaker 1: I need my linebackers in the run game, running downhill,
Speaker 1: stuffing guys writing the out, hitting them right in the mouth.
Speaker 1: And right now, Anthony Barr LV, they're having good seasons,
Speaker 1: but I just don't like the aggressiveness. I want to
Speaker 1: see some more aggression out of both of those guys.
Speaker 1: So to me, I would like to see them make
Speaker 1: a move right there. And it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: a big splash guy that comes in and has to,
Speaker 1: you know, do eighty snaps a game or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but just somebody who can bring that attitude to the defense,
Speaker 1: because I feel on the defensive line, you got Tank Lawrence,
Speaker 1: you got have Parsons who can bring that thumb and
Speaker 1: bring that attitude to them. In the second level, you
Speaker 1: got Wilson. You got a curse back there who's thumping
Speaker 1: and bringing that pain that second level right now, I
Speaker 1: just don't see it. So to me, I would like
Speaker 1: to see them do something that lineback real quick on
Speaker 1: that line then not the linebacker. Before we get to
Speaker 1: TI issue, I want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: that from the standpoint of linebackers. Oftentimes, we've seen these linebackers,
Speaker 1: particularly get swallowed up, can't get off blocks. We've seen
Speaker 1: the number of big plays that happen in the run
Speaker 1: game because they can't get off blocks. How much of
Speaker 1: that do you put on the linebackers? How much of
Speaker 1: that do you put on the defensive tackles in front
Speaker 1: of them? See, I would have put if we're going,
Speaker 1: you know, percentage wise, I would say those defensive tackles
Speaker 1: got to represent at least seventy percent of that because,
Speaker 1: like you said, they get into that second level way
Speaker 1: too fast. And I understand, you know, them linebacker's supposed
Speaker 1: to be able to get off of those blocks, but
Speaker 1: sometimes you're reading stuff back there and they creep up
Speaker 1: on you quick, and once those linemen get them hands on, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get off you. So that's why I
Speaker 1: love that move back for it. Hankins, big dude, sixty
Speaker 1: three to three hundred four pounds. He should be able
Speaker 1: to gobble up some offensive lineman from getting to that
Speaker 1: second level to lve to bar to those walk down
Speaker 1: safety so they're able to go sideline and sideline a
Speaker 1: lot easier or downhill a lot easier with a guy
Speaker 1: like that in there. So I would say, hopefully Hankins
Speaker 1: is able to reduce you know, the lineman getting to
Speaker 1: the second level, and maybe Nevill Gallimore and those guys
Speaker 1: as well be able to step up. But I would
Speaker 1: say definitely at least seventy percent on those guys, because
Speaker 1: when you're at a linebacker, you're not technically just looking
Speaker 1: straight at the D line. You're looking at all this
Speaker 1: stuff in the backfield to make sure you're reading your
Speaker 1: keys correctly, and that could be tough when you get
Speaker 1: those big lineman coming up on you. All right, I
Speaker 1: don't want to make nobody man, but I think, well,
Speaker 1: number one, what you have going on in the safety
Speaker 1: room right now, I think it's great. You got the
Speaker 1: young guys behind Mallie Cooker and those guys with them,
Speaker 1: and so you had Marquis Bell and Israel mcquamu those guys.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know y'all saw on Sunday you
Speaker 1: had a lot of safeties, you know, get out of
Speaker 1: injured and stuff like that. And when you look at
Speaker 1: the free safety spot after Malie Cooker, there's not a
Speaker 1: definite guy that can come in there and you know,
Speaker 1: play that backfield. I guess you want to say, like, granted,
Speaker 1: you do have those young guys, but when you're asking
Speaker 1: a guy to go out there and be like I'm
Speaker 1: the guy back there, you know single I you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys play a lot of you know, single high,
Speaker 1: so he's just like, hey, he's whoever's back there's going
Speaker 1: to have to do their job. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: I think that maybe you could bring in another secondary player.
Speaker 1: I think that you've seen teams there's just no slight
Speaker 1: to one, but you've seen teams go Anthony Brown early.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what's gonna happen with that
Speaker 1: cornerback two spot. Right now, it feels like maybe there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of maybe competition there, So maybe
Speaker 1: if you wanted to upgrade, or maybe not upgrade necessarily,
Speaker 1: but bringing another veteran player for the secondary in itself,
Speaker 1: I think that would change some things and give you
Speaker 1: some depth there. But I would have said linebacker two.
Speaker 1: I think that Demon Clark kind of what you're asking for.
Speaker 1: He actually did well on tape, and I mean and
Speaker 1: to see that from him early. Granted he had his
Speaker 1: you know, his few whips and stuff, but you're talking
Speaker 1: about somebody coming downhill and just being instinctive and just
Speaker 1: going and to make the play regardless of Like I think,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys linebackers right now, I think they're reading,
Speaker 1: but they're not reacting fast enough a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: Right So um, I agree with you on the linebacker
Speaker 1: thing too, but it's kind of kind of weird with
Speaker 1: Demon Clark where he come him with him coming in
Speaker 1: the way he is because he is a rook and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like that that makes me
Speaker 1: feel weird about the linebacker situation now, and maybe they
Speaker 1: feel like they maybe don't need it right now. But
Speaker 1: the secondary, I think at the two positions, the cornerback
Speaker 1: two positions could get better there. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Darn Bland Because I think
Speaker 1: right now when I look at the secondary, I personally
Speaker 1: think I definitely think he's your third best cornerback. At
Speaker 1: least I think there's a case to be made he
Speaker 1: maybe your second best cornerback. What are your thoughts I
Speaker 1: was hinting. I was trying to ease on into that,
Speaker 1: you know what, because quite honestly, like I said, you
Speaker 1: do see teams going at your two cornerback early in games, right,
Speaker 1: So I do think that people see that there's they
Speaker 1: think there's a weakness there or whatever. So I would
Speaker 1: like to see maybe Anthony Brown slide into, you know,
Speaker 1: play more slot. We've seen him thrive there. He's actually
Speaker 1: good in the We've seen him thrive there. I think
Speaker 1: his awareness and his ball instincts are just better there.
Speaker 1: And so maybe looking at dron Bland playing on the out,
Speaker 1: seeing how he does, that's an option. Possibly. We saw
Speaker 1: him have some success in the preseason. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just preseason, but we've already said, like, this guy has
Speaker 1: a nose for the ball. He's extinctive, especially, and I
Speaker 1: think that he could maybe do something out there if
Speaker 1: you put him out there. Say now, obviously, this name
Speaker 1: is not one you have to worry about when it
Speaker 1: comes to a trade because he's not on a team
Speaker 1: right now. But Odell Beckham Junior is sitting out there.
Speaker 1: He's recovering from an injury last year, was injured in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Coming back from that injury, and don't
Speaker 1: really know the time frame on that. I assume the
Speaker 1: Cowboys would if they were thinking or interested in him.
Speaker 1: Would you, if you were the Cowboys take a look
Speaker 1: at him and possibly bring him in as a free agent?
Speaker 1: I would say absolutely not without literally not, Like I understand.
Speaker 1: You know Eldell Beckham, you know he's he's an elite
Speaker 1: wide receiver when he's healthy, when he's healthy. He's an
Speaker 1: elite wide receiver, no doubt about that. The only thing
Speaker 1: is he's coming off his second you know, ACL injury,
Speaker 1: and I believe that happened. Well, it was at the
Speaker 1: super bow. It's right around the right, it was right
Speaker 1: around the corner. So we've seen how guys recover from
Speaker 1: the ACL. Look at look at Michael Gallup right now,
Speaker 1: he's still trying to get there. He's still trying to
Speaker 1: find himself out there. Of course you'll have a couple
Speaker 1: of moments where he's like, oh, he's back, look at it.
Speaker 1: He's doing his day. But they don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of laws out there as well. So to me, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't bring Odell Beckham in until I know he's a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent right and he's right back to
Speaker 1: where he can be to come and help this team out. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe that'll be, you know, further down the line, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe closer to the playoff situation maybe, but as of
Speaker 1: right now, I wouldn't bring him in and try to
Speaker 1: develop him and try to get him right and try
Speaker 1: to get him hooked up onto this system. Knowing that
Speaker 1: you got a guy named Michael Gallup has a already
Speaker 1: dealing with that ACEL injury, and we see how slow
Speaker 1: he's he's coming back from his progress. So Odell, I'm
Speaker 1: out on him out. I don't know, I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of on the fence. I think that you could bring
Speaker 1: someone here and help out with like the slot work
Speaker 1: and any medior work. But with Odell, like you were
Speaker 1: just talking about his injury, he did like his rehab
Speaker 1: is where is he at his rehab? Like that's the
Speaker 1: biggest thing, is like where is he at in his rehab?
Speaker 1: And I mean, he is a veteran guy, So if
Speaker 1: you bring him in here, maybe that the short, intermediate
Speaker 1: stuff that you're asking him to do. Maybe he's not
Speaker 1: a strenuous But I do agree that his injury, in
Speaker 1: the timing of his injury is kind of off putting,
Speaker 1: especially seeing how guy how long guys take to come
Speaker 1: back from an ACL. Then you have to look at
Speaker 1: the locker room. You have a very young locker room
Speaker 1: that's close knit right now. Do you want to bring
Speaker 1: a guy in here who is you know, been in
Speaker 1: the league for a while, has some experience, and how
Speaker 1: does he fit in this locker room? That's another conversation
Speaker 1: to have with him being an alpha personality. So I'm
Speaker 1: good on it right now, I'm the contingent on It's
Speaker 1: contingent on where he's at in his rehab. For me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with all that. But here's my thought. Even
Speaker 1: even if let's say he is a ninety percent of
Speaker 1: what he was, is he still not better than Yeah,
Speaker 1: you start looking at your depth chart. Yeah, he may
Speaker 1: not be CD. He may not be the oldell that
Speaker 1: you're expecting or that you've had in the past, But
Speaker 1: when you look at what you have right now, he
Speaker 1: might upgrade the whole level. And by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: I know that there have been times in his career
Speaker 1: where you're like, man, I don't know if i'd want
Speaker 1: him in my locker rooms. I think he's mature beyond that.
Speaker 1: And so the way I look at it is I
Speaker 1: actually think he might actually be It might actually be
Speaker 1: an advantage. You got a really really young wide receiver
Speaker 1: room and and having somebody with his skins on the
Speaker 1: wall walk into that room, especially if he's the matured
Speaker 1: person I think he is. I think he adds some
Speaker 1: some extra mental to that room. I think he can
Speaker 1: bring some stuff into that room that maybe helps him
Speaker 1: think about the game differently and helps them mature a
Speaker 1: little bit better in the game as receivers. Do you think,
Speaker 1: you know, bringing Odell in there, do you think that
Speaker 1: would hinder CD in any type of way, Because like
Speaker 1: right now, CD's like, all right, I'm the leader. I'm
Speaker 1: an alpha dog in this room, like you know what,
Speaker 1: I what you go through me. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: if you brought an Odell in there it would kind
Speaker 1: of hinder him and he would kind of want to
Speaker 1: take a back sea because I don't really I don't
Speaker 1: see him as that kind of do an You know,
Speaker 1: I go if if you're an alpha in another alpha
Speaker 1: walksing room, you don't take a step back exactly. You're like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, we might run this thing together. But
Speaker 1: I ain't taking a step back. So I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't see CD as the type that's gun necessarily step back.
Speaker 1: I think he will say, okay, that's a VET. I'll
Speaker 1: learn some stuff from him, So I'm open to that,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not gonna step back
Speaker 1: and just kind of addicate everything. Then That's where I
Speaker 1: look at Noah And to your point, like when you
Speaker 1: talk about bringing in possibly an Odell. It truly, just
Speaker 1: the threat of him on the field may change things
Speaker 1: for you as well, just may open up things like
Speaker 1: say what you want to say. But this guy is
Speaker 1: respected in the league, and granted he is coming off
Speaker 1: of an ACL, but his speed is something people have
Speaker 1: always talked about and you're looking for right now. I
Speaker 1: think every receiver you need someone to take the top
Speaker 1: off right now. You need a vertical threat. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, let's see, let's see if people are open
Speaker 1: to you know, Odell being a a cowboy, that would
Speaker 1: be an interest. That would be crazy. I mean the lights,
Speaker 1: camera action and do it. He would love it. And
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Meant like, we gotta have
Speaker 1: somebody on in this wide receiver room that can consistently
Speaker 1: beat man and man coverage because right now CD's getting
Speaker 1: that double. Everybody's knowing like, all right, if we take
Speaker 1: CD away, you know what can these other guys do?
Speaker 1: And right now, you know, Noah Brownie had a couple
Speaker 1: of games early on that you know, wow, he's doing
Speaker 1: this thing. But can he be consistent out there and
Speaker 1: beating that man to man coverage because we know teams
Speaker 1: are gonna do the Cowboys. They've they've been leaning on
Speaker 1: their strengths, which is the defense and that run game. Ye,
Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna run into a team where they're gonna
Speaker 1: stack the boxing, They're gonna they're gonna shut down that run.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to open it up. Do we have
Speaker 1: receivers on this team that can consistently beat that man
Speaker 1: to man coverage. I know, you know, James Washington's coming
Speaker 1: back from injury, but there's a reason why Pittsburgh let
Speaker 1: him wik. You know, it wasn't like he was the
Speaker 1: most consistent guy out there and doing this thing. So
Speaker 1: you know that we gotta find somebody to come in
Speaker 1: here consistently beat man and man they put help of
Speaker 1: pressure off of CD Lamb out there. Yeah, absolutely needs
Speaker 1: a running buddy. I do think that I do think
Speaker 1: that Kelly did a really good job this game scheming
Speaker 1: these guys open. Yeah, I mean, and granted this last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks we've seen guys be open and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, you got you got your quarterback back there now,
Speaker 1: so that makes the difference. But I do agree with
Speaker 1: you that you do see that the way that teams
Speaker 1: are playing, they're just Bracken and CD and they're just
Speaker 1: they're betting on the next guy to make the play. Now,
Speaker 1: we'll say the way that the tight ends are being
Speaker 1: used kind of muddies the water a little bit because
Speaker 1: you can say, right like, Okay, well these guys can't
Speaker 1: get open on their own right now, they're not creating
Speaker 1: a lot of separation. Well, your tight ends are doing
Speaker 1: a lot and that are you know? So that's an
Speaker 1: option too that I think that sometimes we forget when
Speaker 1: we're talking about the receiving corps. I guess you do
Speaker 1: got some guys out there. Dalton Scholtz is coming along
Speaker 1: like since stacks back. So I mean, I agree, like
Speaker 1: there's there's something to be said about what's going on
Speaker 1: with the receiver corp. Right now. You see improvement, but
Speaker 1: is going to be enough when you start playing those
Speaker 1: teams that can lock down and load the box and
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Are you gonna take our first
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Speaker 1: be joining me today and tomorrow, and so we're gonna
Speaker 1: launch into our media review. I got some questions for
Speaker 1: you guys, and they're just meant to expand your mind,
Speaker 1: make you think about the whole season. Hold, give these
Speaker 1: fans a little bit of a flavor of what you
Speaker 1: think of what we've seen so far through eight games.
Speaker 1: Let's start here. Dallas was six and two in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. The zac same point, they were six and two,
Speaker 1: just like the Cowboys are now. Are they better this
Speaker 1: year than they were last year? And also remember we
Speaker 1: gate it last year that was at debacle against Denver
Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen stadium. That being said, they better team
Speaker 1: now than they were last year? Well, to that point.
Speaker 1: I think that when you look at what the Broncos
Speaker 1: did against the Cowboys last year with that two high show,
Speaker 1: and how hard it was for the Cowboys to offensively
Speaker 1: figure out how to beat it, they they're figuring out
Speaker 1: ways to beat it this year. You saw that especially
Speaker 1: last game like this, the two high show is not
Speaker 1: as I think Dak is just reading it far far better.
Speaker 1: And then I think what you're getting in the run
Speaker 1: game last year, a lot of that worked because you
Speaker 1: cannot run the ball. Yep. You literally got to a
Speaker 1: place to where you cannot run the ball. So teams
Speaker 1: are just let me just drop six and covers and
Speaker 1: see what you're gonna do. So um, I also mentioned
Speaker 1: yesterday on our show, I think they're battle tested in
Speaker 1: a different way way to start this season, you know,
Speaker 1: to make it through not having your quarterback. You've had
Speaker 1: quite a few key injuries. I mean, we just we
Speaker 1: keep moling over the fact that you're starting left tackle
Speaker 1: was not supposed to be your rook right, So I mean,
Speaker 1: you have guys coming in here. You had a lot
Speaker 1: of young guys played early. But I think also they've
Speaker 1: seen quite a few different like you've seen some of
Speaker 1: the best receiver cords in this game. You've seen some
Speaker 1: of the best offensive lines when you come when you
Speaker 1: start talking about run blocking in this game. They've seen
Speaker 1: a variety of different looks early in this season that
Speaker 1: I think is so such good teach tape that they
Speaker 1: may be a little bit more battle tested going into
Speaker 1: you know, the playoffs this year are going into you know,
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. So to me, with
Speaker 1: what they've had to overcome and how things have transpired,
Speaker 1: especially the coaches, for sure, I think that they're at
Speaker 1: a better place this year than they were last year
Speaker 1: at this point, right and the men you talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, this offense being battle tested. You know, you
Speaker 1: had to go through a five game stretch with Cooper
Speaker 1: WESHI has you're starting quarterback now. If you would have
Speaker 1: told me, you know, week one, we're gonna lose Da
Speaker 1: Prescott for the next five weeks and still you don't
Speaker 1: have a legit chance to make the playoffs, sound I
Speaker 1: thought you were crazy, you know, but Cooper us here
Speaker 1: we are and he was able to hold it down.
Speaker 1: I think he went four in one during that stretch,
Speaker 1: was which was remarkable. So to me, offensively, I think
Speaker 1: I don't think we're as explosive as we were last year,
Speaker 1: but I think we're a much better unit overall because
Speaker 1: we have more ways to beat you. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna stack that box. We still got Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: out there, who's able to move the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: Now we also have a run game that we didn't
Speaker 1: have last year, like you just said, with a two
Speaker 1: headed monster out there. So offensively, I think we're not
Speaker 1: as explosive, but we're better as a unit. And then defensively,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'm not gonna say heads and
Speaker 1: tails about what we were last year because they were
Speaker 1: getting a lot of takeaways last year. But once again,
Speaker 1: as a unit, this team is playing remarkable. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't see any mental mistakes out there. Last year,
Speaker 1: you've seen a couple of busted coverages, receivers running wide open.
Speaker 1: That's how the teams got got points on his defense.
Speaker 1: But this year you don't see any of that. And
Speaker 1: the way they're able to rush the passer, I mean
Speaker 1: it comes in waves. You see. You know the Marcus
Speaker 1: and Parsons, all right, they're out of the game. I
Speaker 1: could take a break. Nine comes here comes Fouler like
Speaker 1: you got O Digizoa in there. Never talk about Sam Williams.
Speaker 1: Sam Williams. So it's just like these the waves they're
Speaker 1: able to come at these offenses, it's unbelievable. So and
Speaker 1: that's a secondary. I mean, like I said, overall, you
Speaker 1: know you got Diggs Brown, he has his up and downs.
Speaker 1: But as a secondary, I think they're playing extremely solid.
Speaker 1: They have a great quarterback back there and cursing those
Speaker 1: safety So to me, I think as a whole, this
Speaker 1: team is playing better than it did last year. But defensively,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this team is it's blowing my mind.
Speaker 1: I've never seen as far as since I've been here
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys, it's always been offense, offense, offense.
Speaker 1: You know, the offense is the leader. That the strength
Speaker 1: of this team this year. I mean, dan Quinn got
Speaker 1: those guys moving on all cylinders. I mean, and it's remarkable.
Speaker 1: So to me, as a whole, I think they're playing
Speaker 1: better than last year and they have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: go longer in the playoffs if they are to make that,
Speaker 1: because like you said, they have multiple ways to beat
Speaker 1: you on the offense and on defense. If you can
Speaker 1: rush the password like that. I mean, you stand a
Speaker 1: chance every single game out there, and they tell you
Speaker 1: what travels best and what when the teams do best
Speaker 1: in the playoffs is run the ball and have solid defense.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the Cowboys have, all right. Next question,
Speaker 1: bigger surprise. I got three names for you, Tyler Smith,
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele, or Noah Brown. Bigger surprise? All right, So
Speaker 1: I would say dan't get saved again. What would I
Speaker 1: have bigger surprise? Tyler Smith, Terrence Steele, Noah Brown. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so I would say, do my biggest surprise. I guess
Speaker 1: my biggest surprise would be at all those I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe Terrence. I guess Terrence. I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess Terrence. And I'm I'm gonna say Terrence not in
Speaker 1: a in a in a negative way, but just the
Speaker 1: level he's playing at a right tackle is I think
Speaker 1: it's better than a lot of people expected. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of people expected for him to maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, fall off a little this season. Also, um so,
Speaker 1: I think the development he's made and that right side
Speaker 1: of that offensive line being somewhat dominant is making a
Speaker 1: difference in this run game, I would say, I would
Speaker 1: say Terrence, I guess I was Terence like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that. I like that, And I'm gonna go the
Speaker 1: counter part. I'm gonna go Tyler Smith. And the reason
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Tyler Smith as if you look at it, man,
Speaker 1: this guy was he was a raw He was raw.
Speaker 1: He's super athletic, super talented, but as far as technique goes,
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to Big Nate Newton, He's like he's
Speaker 1: a raw candidate out there. He's just raw out there.
Speaker 1: And for him to come out there, he was one
Speaker 1: of the most penalized offensive linemen in all of you know,
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA when he came out. This guy got all
Speaker 1: his reps everything at the left guard spot during camp.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he had an opportunity to go
Speaker 1: out there and you do one on ones and all
Speaker 1: that stuff for the left tackle. But they didn't do that.
Speaker 1: They let him at left guard. Even though Tyler not
Speaker 1: Tyler Tyrn Smith has his injury history, they still you know,
Speaker 1: kept him at that guard. Tyrn goes out, they move
Speaker 1: him to left tackle, which to me is a totally
Speaker 1: different position than that guard spot because you got guys
Speaker 1: on either side of you to help you out that
Speaker 1: tackle position. You buy yourself on an island against some
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous pass rushers in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: So for him to do that without getting any reps
Speaker 1: at that guard spot, to me, it's super surprising. And
Speaker 1: he's playing at at a pretty high level. You know,
Speaker 1: he's had his his struggles with Aaron Donald, but who
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, and you know the guy from Detroit,
Speaker 1: Hutchinson kind of got after him a little bit, but
Speaker 1: those are growing pains. I think he's still playing at
Speaker 1: a high level. And for him to do that without
Speaker 1: getting any reps at the tackle spot, to me, that's
Speaker 1: pretty surprising. And why I would I wanted to add
Speaker 1: to your point, like with so Tyler didn't surprise me
Speaker 1: because I just I don't know. I've really just was
Speaker 1: kind of obsessed like first, because at first I found
Speaker 1: like when I first realized who he was and I
Speaker 1: started taking a deep dive into who he was. His
Speaker 1: character's why I knew he was gonna be I like,
Speaker 1: his worth ATICI whatever. But when you start talking about
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, about them being battle tested.
Speaker 1: He Tyler's seen some of the best best edged rushers
Speaker 1: in the game early, Like he saw some of the
Speaker 1: best early, and I think that's again, like we started
Speaker 1: talking about getting later in the season where you're talking
Speaker 1: about these d ends you're gonna be going against, where
Speaker 1: they're like they're singling him out, like we know there's
Speaker 1: a rook on this line, let's go make a play.
Speaker 1: He's seen that already. He's seen people come at him
Speaker 1: early and be like, oh, you know, we got the best,
Speaker 1: We're gonna put him on him, and like, so let's
Speaker 1: I think I wanted to add to your point and
Speaker 1: say that that's important that like he's adjusted and developed
Speaker 1: early this season too, to have something to going to,
Speaker 1: you know, later in the season of accidentally absolutely like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell y'all, I disagree with both y'all,
Speaker 1: and here's why. Here's why, here's why I know he's
Speaker 1: gonna First of all, first of all, I think both
Speaker 1: those tackles are playing above what I thought they would
Speaker 1: play it, but not like I didn't. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: I didn't see a scenario where they could play at
Speaker 1: this level, right, So what they're doing doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's more like, Okay, I kind of
Speaker 1: thought they could do it, but they're like they're doing
Speaker 1: and they're doing it ahead of maybe what I thought
Speaker 1: they was. Listen to these numbers on Noah Brown about
Speaker 1: to fix up no Brown. Noah Brown has had in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, he had four catches for thirty three yards
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight seeing five catches for fifty four yards.
Speaker 1: He's a season totals. It's not a game. This is
Speaker 1: a season total, right. Twenty twenty fourteen catches one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty four yards, twenty twenty one, sixteen catches one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four yards. This year, halfway through the season,
Speaker 1: Andy missed the game. Twenty five catches, three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards and a touchdown, the only touchdown of
Speaker 1: his career. He is doing something. When they when they
Speaker 1: brought him back this year, my thought was, I don't
Speaker 1: even understand why, because don't say last year he had
Speaker 1: an opportunity. There was a game where they had a
Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers out, he had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: step up. They didn't really get much production out of him.
Speaker 1: What we saw this year, especially when Cooper Rush was
Speaker 1: in there was we saw a guy that took advantage
Speaker 1: of that opportunity and showed us things that I don't
Speaker 1: know anybody other than him and maybe mom on them
Speaker 1: that thought he was capable of doing that because his
Speaker 1: career had not shown that he was capable of doing that.
Speaker 1: That has been a huge surprise to me. And now
Speaker 1: we're even talking about it from the standpoint of I
Speaker 1: look at him and I say, yes, he is clearly
Speaker 1: the third best wide receiver on this team, and if
Speaker 1: you need him to step into that second role, he
Speaker 1: can do it. So that to me is a huge surprise.
Speaker 1: So if you're talking surprises, I really don't think there's
Speaker 1: a bigger surprise. Honestly, I don't think there's a bigger
Speaker 1: surprise on this team this year for me if you're
Speaker 1: looking at personnel than what Noah Brown has done, because
Speaker 1: I just didn't expect anything close to this. The two
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at the roster of my mind,
Speaker 1: trying to see where you can prove me wrong. You're like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of guys on this roster that's the
Speaker 1: biggest surprise. Like Noah Brown talked about, you know, dropping
Speaker 1: weight an offseason coming in here and trying to be prepared.
Speaker 1: He also does he does so much in the blocking
Speaker 1: game that is underrated. He's almost like a tied end,
Speaker 1: but not a tied end in some ways with how
Speaker 1: they use him in the twelve and get him out there. Um,
Speaker 1: but I agree with you that he has been a
Speaker 1: surprise to some Are you like a surprise to some
Speaker 1: degree with how well he's he's played. Um, I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see what he looks like when he comes back.
Speaker 1: And again, like when you start talking about the wide
Speaker 1: receiver position, is like, well, Dan, what's Noah gonna do
Speaker 1: when he come back at that three? Likely? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like it's it's a weird spot to be in,
Speaker 1: but yeah, go ahead, Ferry. I was just gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: add on to both of y'all. Knowah Brown had has
Speaker 1: been really surprising, and I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: has to do with what Cooper Rush and him and
Speaker 1: that report, because if you think about it, yeah, they
Speaker 1: you know practice squad always going against the ones on defense.
Speaker 1: They had that connection out there, and I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see what him and Dak are gonna be able to do.
Speaker 1: You know, can he go out there. I see him
Speaker 1: as a guy that can make those contested casters, like
Speaker 1: a possession guy. You need to move the chains. He
Speaker 1: might not bust you for you know, a fifty yard
Speaker 1: game or sixty yard game. He'll get you those tens.
Speaker 1: He'll get you those fifteens, and he ain't gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of yacht yards, but he's gonna catch that football.
Speaker 1: You know. That's actually that's actually a great point. I've
Speaker 1: never really thought about it like that, but and I
Speaker 1: know it's gonna sound really crazy, so forgiven before I
Speaker 1: say it, But it might have actually been a blessing
Speaker 1: in disguise that based on not having Michael Gallop early
Speaker 1: in the season that you also didn't have Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: because Cooper Rush and Noah Brown, the chemistry that they
Speaker 1: have actually may have served you well and may have
Speaker 1: served you better than what you would have gotten out
Speaker 1: of Dak and Noah. They may not have had that
Speaker 1: same level of chemistry. We might have seen the same
Speaker 1: thing we've seen throughout Noah's career if Dak would have
Speaker 1: been the one poll in the trigger. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's that's an interesting way to look at it, and
Speaker 1: it makes me think, like was that really something to
Speaker 1: actually helped this offense because of that chemistry that he
Speaker 1: has with Coop, And I'm not so sure. You know,
Speaker 1: Dak would have been willing to run the football as
Speaker 1: much like you know, he might would have been up
Speaker 1: there and say, you know, hey, this is a run call.
Speaker 1: But you know he has that pool and that clichetor
Speaker 1: where he can be like a kill kill kill, get
Speaker 1: the guy out there, and get that guy out there,
Speaker 1: and we would have never seen this offense have that
Speaker 1: formula that they have now, running that football and playing
Speaker 1: to the defense. And now that we've seen how successful
Speaker 1: that can be in that five game stretch, you see
Speaker 1: Doc he's like, hey, I'm not gonna mess this up.
Speaker 1: Let's just gonna keep going on what it's going. So
Speaker 1: and he did talk about he did talk about that
Speaker 1: and said he learned a lot on the sideline about
Speaker 1: kind of how things were working and watching how things happen.
Speaker 1: So some of that might have been might have been
Speaker 1: the result of him watching from the sideline. A lot
Speaker 1: of it is just your offensive line being better than
Speaker 1: has been in a minute. Sorry, like I mean truly,
Speaker 1: I mean you being able to run the ball consistently
Speaker 1: just has changed a lot of what you do offensively,
Speaker 1: and quite honestly, I don't know if the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: consistently ran the ball well for a while now. Well,
Speaker 1: three of the pieces are guys that two years ago
Speaker 1: you we thought they probably should be running out of town.
Speaker 1: They've developed this offensive. We talked about tern Still, you
Speaker 1: talk about Beardist, you're talking about McGovern That was a
Speaker 1: time all three of them were on every fans wishless
Speaker 1: to replace it, like like getting rid of them. They
Speaker 1: are not very good guys, and so you gotta give
Speaker 1: a ton of credits to the coaches were developing that
Speaker 1: time because they that's certainly what wasn't what we thought.
Speaker 1: Even maybe last year there were questions about Beardish, but
Speaker 1: we wouldn't. We went into camp this year and I
Speaker 1: think everybody thought mc government days were limited because you
Speaker 1: were thinking the rookie's gonna take his job Jack, and
Speaker 1: the rookie could not move him out of that starting spot.
Speaker 1: So in credits to those guys for I mean, we
Speaker 1: talked about Tyler Biada, she talked about Terren Steell, Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: These gentlemen are also taking the time to get work
Speaker 1: outside of this building, so working with Duke can get
Speaker 1: in those like is. There's something to be said about
Speaker 1: players who are going and getting that extra work, especially
Speaker 1: at the offensive line position. When we talk about they
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of time in practice, they don't
Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. So for these guys to
Speaker 1: be taking the initiative to get better says something about
Speaker 1: this offensive line as well. All right, let's let's take
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Speaker 1: We are talking about the Cowboys and a media review.
Speaker 1: My next question for you guys, ready for this movie?
Speaker 1: All right? More important to this team's success. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: or dan Quinn? Oh, what is wrong with you? Oh?
Speaker 1: I learned from the master, Brian Brows is the best
Speaker 1: of these kind of questions, and this one is one
Speaker 1: that that he would be proud of. This this question,
Speaker 1: get your thanking more important success. Dak Prescott or dan Quinn. Oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, Uh, I gotta go. I'll go with you all.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm more six. I'm gonna have to go
Speaker 1: dan Quinn. I'm gonna have to go dan Quinny because
Speaker 1: it's like what he's been able to do with this
Speaker 1: defense and being the strength of this team. And you know,
Speaker 1: coaching matters out there and you and you're getting the
Speaker 1: most out of each and every one of your players.
Speaker 1: You're putting them in the right POSI. You know how
Speaker 1: many times do we see, Okay, George Lewis goes down
Speaker 1: one of the top nickels in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Duran Bland, a rookie, steps in, already has an under
Speaker 1: interception under his belt. He understands the defense. And I
Speaker 1: feel like dan Quinn, he when he gets the most
Speaker 1: out of these guys because his system, what he does
Speaker 1: with them, he makes them understand it, like, all right,
Speaker 1: these are your strengths, these are your weaknesses, these are
Speaker 1: who you need to lean on. And he does a
Speaker 1: great job doing that, and he's built this team up.
Speaker 1: So I feel like if we don't have him in there.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, you know, there's there's coaches underneath
Speaker 1: him that will be able to do, you know, a
Speaker 1: decent job as well. But the way he's calling this
Speaker 1: team and the way he's getting his defense going, I
Speaker 1: just don't see it in the offense being able to
Speaker 1: exploit this defense. So we we had that five game stretch,
Speaker 1: you know, with with Cooper Russian I saying that he
Speaker 1: could be the guy and take us as far as
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott could possibly good, but I still
Speaker 1: feel like we'd have a better chance with a dan
Speaker 1: Quinn defense rather than you know, Prescott being in there
Speaker 1: and being the guy. I gotta go with dan Quinn
Speaker 1: on this one. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna agree. It hurts,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna agree because it's also to you look
Speaker 1: at what he's One thing I loved about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: when they hired dan Quinn is that they got him
Speaker 1: in here before the season started and he was able
Speaker 1: to kind of put his his imprint early. So he
Speaker 1: was here through the draft. You can see his imprint
Speaker 1: on the draft. You've seen his inprint on the draft,
Speaker 1: You've seen his imprint on the free agency sign as
Speaker 1: you've seen. And so this has been a real like
Speaker 1: a build in a way, like a build in a way,
Speaker 1: and that and to see the change and the like
Speaker 1: when you think back to twenty and twenty, when you
Speaker 1: think back to this d and to flip it that quickly,
Speaker 1: but also too it's I think we talk about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys all the time, and people talk about culture and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I do I think for sure that
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is a huge part of this culture change.
Speaker 1: Um and obviously Mike McCarthy as well. But I would
Speaker 1: say yeah, just because of what the locker room, how
Speaker 1: they talk about them, how they how, and we seeing
Speaker 1: guys improve with him. When you talk about coaching, you
Speaker 1: look at this secondary, Some of these guys were here
Speaker 1: when there are other coaching staffs here and you weren't
Speaker 1: getting that production. You aren't getting these same looks, you
Speaker 1: weren't getting the same you know, versatility there. So and
Speaker 1: I also feel like if you don't have Dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't see Michael do what he does. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches looked at Micah in the draft
Speaker 1: and they saw what he was capable of doing. Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn saw what he was capable of doing and made
Speaker 1: it work. He also threw away his whole playbook from
Speaker 1: when he was in Seattle. So not only that, he
Speaker 1: came in here and he solely built this defense based
Speaker 1: off of the players he brought in here, and I
Speaker 1: think that is very difficult to do when you look
Speaker 1: across the league. Teams struggled to draft and develop, struggle
Speaker 1: with coaching, locker room issues, and that's not something you
Speaker 1: see here. I think he's a big part of that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let me throw I'm gonna change it up a
Speaker 1: little bit for you. Is Dan queen Quinn most important
Speaker 1: to his team's success because he has Michael Parsons. Without
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons would he be able to do the magical
Speaker 1: things that he's been able to do so far with
Speaker 1: this defense. So I would have said that maybe last
Speaker 1: year based off of how they were using Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: coming from the linebacker spot in Russian and how they
Speaker 1: used him now but now that they're using him, granted,
Speaker 1: MICA's nobody to sleep on, but now that they're using
Speaker 1: him at edge a lot more, I do think that
Speaker 1: the way that they were using him last year was
Speaker 1: a little bit more mystique. I guess if that's the word,
Speaker 1: I don't know, if that's the way. He didn't know
Speaker 1: where he was gonna be. You didn't know where he
Speaker 1: was gonna be. But now this year, you kind of
Speaker 1: know where he's gonna be. I think that kind of
Speaker 1: takes a wrinkle away in some degree. So I'll say
Speaker 1: that maybe this I think this defense. I say all
Speaker 1: that to say, I think this defense can still thrive,
Speaker 1: maybe not the same exact way. I think they thrive
Speaker 1: more when you don't know where Michael's coming from. You know,
Speaker 1: I would have to say without Micah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say they're gonna take a huge step back, but they
Speaker 1: would definitely take a step because if you I mean, granted,
Speaker 1: he's probably you know, top three defensive players in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, but not only that, he's creating so
Speaker 1: many more one on ones everybody else on the line,
Speaker 1: Like you know, d law Duran's Armstrong file, those guys
Speaker 1: they're getting a lot of one on ones and they're
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that. And I don't think
Speaker 1: you get that without Michael Parsons being there, Like if
Speaker 1: they kept him a linebacker or if he wasn't on
Speaker 1: this team at all, I think it would be a
Speaker 1: different story. So to me, you know, he's a top
Speaker 1: three defensive player for a reason, and I think he
Speaker 1: just creates so much more for everybody else. And then
Speaker 1: you talk about being in the secondary when a quarterback
Speaker 1: has to make a decision like that and he's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you know I'm looking at Parsons, but I don't know
Speaker 1: who I'm going to. It makes your job a lot
Speaker 1: easier in the secondary. So with that guy being there,
Speaker 1: everybody else's job is a lot easier. They wouldn't take
Speaker 1: a huge step back, but I think they would definitely
Speaker 1: take a step back. I also mentioned that yesterday and
Speaker 1: Cross Talk. He said this is He's like, this is
Speaker 1: the thing about rushing the past or with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You if you don't get there before Michael does, you
Speaker 1: just not gonna get it. And that was crazy to me,
Speaker 1: like hearing him say that, Like everyone's like when you're
Speaker 1: rushing if you don't be Michael, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: set because he's he's up the competition, you know. There,
Speaker 1: So I agree with you that fumble RecA exactly what
Speaker 1: you're about to say that. Yeah, like the way his
Speaker 1: motory is, it's like you you see talented players, they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, just onen't my turn is? This guy
Speaker 1: is literally he just doesn't stop the fumble recovery, the
Speaker 1: chase down tackle in Detroit, which that could have switched
Speaker 1: the momentum to everything. But he chased that that tight
Speaker 1: end down at the one yard line. Tank goes in
Speaker 1: there and forces the fumble, switches the whole game up.
Speaker 1: So when you got a guy with that mentality that
Speaker 1: wants to that passion, it's infectious and the rest of
Speaker 1: the defense kind of feeds off of that, and you
Speaker 1: see how they're flying around. I honestly think Curse thought
Speaker 1: he had that that that recovery, that fumble recovery. I
Speaker 1: think you can kind of it's almost like you could
Speaker 1: see it on his face, like oh and you can
Speaker 1: see you can. You can just hear Michael being like,
Speaker 1: I got that, but give me that yeah, block, go
Speaker 1: block somebody. Yeah. It was like it almost took it down,
Speaker 1: and Knights like, man, I knew I had that one,
Speaker 1: and but that's Michael like, and that does up the
Speaker 1: the everyone's level of play. When you got players like
Speaker 1: that on your team who are so competitive, ultra competitive
Speaker 1: and always always giving everything to go get to the
Speaker 1: play and make a play, it makes everybody else also
Speaker 1: want to make a play and want to get there
Speaker 1: before that person gets there, to be able to have
Speaker 1: one up on him. That's why this guy's NFL. You know,
Speaker 1: but you've been there, Like these are ultra competitive people, right,
Speaker 1: They're just competitive people just in general, because that you
Speaker 1: have to be to be good in the NFL. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be left off that board. So Marinelli,
Speaker 1: you always had to turn over board. And if you're
Speaker 1: a starter in the league and you sit there and
Speaker 1: you're like, man, this guy got you know, a couple here,
Speaker 1: a couple there, you don't want to be that guy
Speaker 1: that's not contributing. Like you're trying hard to, you know,
Speaker 1: to get to that next that next phase and be
Speaker 1: on that board. And when you got guys like Mic
Speaker 1: out there, it's like, man, you know, I gotta catch up.
Speaker 1: I gotta do something out there, So he's making his
Speaker 1: defense a lot better real quick. Before we end the show,
Speaker 1: I did want to get I had this this question.
Speaker 1: It's real really for you, Barry, because you played safety NFL,
Speaker 1: you kind of know what good safeties look like. Millie
Speaker 1: Cooker is a guy that I think it's played really well.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to get your perspective on what exactly
Speaker 1: makes him a good safety. He was a guy who's
Speaker 1: highly tired coming out of out of college, first round pick.
Speaker 1: Injuries really derailed him more than anything else. But what
Speaker 1: makes him a really good safety? And what are you
Speaker 1: seeing from him this year that makes you believe that
Speaker 1: he is really back to maybe being that level of safety.
Speaker 1: I think he's playing outstanding right now. You know, he
Speaker 1: understands his role. He's a middle to feel safety. He
Speaker 1: knows that he doesn't let anything pass his head. And
Speaker 1: what I love most about him, he's able to read
Speaker 1: that quarterback back. They're like none other. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas back in the day, you know, had a
Speaker 1: real knack for reading quarterbacks. But if you look at it,
Speaker 1: he's always in the picture, even if he's in the
Speaker 1: cover three zone in the middle of the field and
Speaker 1: they throw that deep ball on the outside. By the
Speaker 1: numbers or about the hashes out there, he's able to
Speaker 1: get over there and help his teammates out. You rarely
Speaker 1: see a mental error from this guy and tackling that's huge,
Speaker 1: and from a middle of the field defender. Ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the time you're open field tackling people, and I
Speaker 1: rarely see this guy miss tackles. Like he might not
Speaker 1: bring the thump like a Wilson or a curse, but
Speaker 1: he's gonna wrap you up and he's gonna come up
Speaker 1: with a body part. So to me, he checks all
Speaker 1: the boxes. He's a great tackler. He's a great communicator
Speaker 1: because he gets, you know, the calls that everybody gets,
Speaker 1: everybody lined up in the right space, and he's great
Speaker 1: against the past and reading quarterbacks, not letting anything over
Speaker 1: top of his head. So to me, I think he's
Speaker 1: playing outstanding football. The numbers may not show it, like
Speaker 1: he may not have a lot of interceptions or a
Speaker 1: lot of tackles, but he's playing solid football right now
Speaker 1: and exactly what the Cowboys need. And you mentioned his
Speaker 1: tackling like he's dealing with a thumb injury, he's been
Speaker 1: dealing with that thumb injury, it sounds like for the
Speaker 1: majority of the season. So it just also puts in
Speaker 1: perspective his grid and some of the things you see
Speaker 1: from him. One thing I've loved from Millie Cooker so far,
Speaker 1: Like you were talking about as a tackling he's not
Speaker 1: afraid to come up and tackle or even at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, like he's an active player. But he's
Speaker 1: also very vocal. Yes, just look at him. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to be as a safety. But they talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, the secondary or the defense in itself. They
Speaker 1: talk about communication all the time, and from the safety position,
Speaker 1: that is so intricate, especially when you have a cornerback
Speaker 1: that likes to take chances. And I think that and
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of what you're seeing from
Speaker 1: Digs is because he trusts his safety. He trust his safety,
Speaker 1: his trust a little bit more than last year, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But yeah, he trusts that safety
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think that's important to what they're
Speaker 1: doing defensively right now. So all right, that's a man.
Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been fun. It's some good answer,
Speaker 1: all right, So we're gonna be back tomorrow and we'll
Speaker 1: have some more questions for these guys. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: some more wrapping up of this midyear review until then
Speaker 1: for Barry Church, fry Esha Moore Soon. I'm Derek Hielton.
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