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Speaker 1: plus the crisis in Venezuela. What should the US do?

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Speaker 1: What do we think of what we've done so far?

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Speaker 1: I'll break all that down for you and more coming

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Speaker 1: up on The Buck Sexton Show. This is the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is to decode

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Speaker 1: what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American.

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Speaker 1: Let you're a great American again. The Buck Sexton Show begins. No,

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Speaker 1: we have to have border security. We have to have

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Speaker 1: a wall. In order to have border security. You cannot

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Speaker 1: play games and we can talk about technology, we can

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Speaker 1: talk about drones flying around. You know, right now formed

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Speaker 1: is an eight thousand person caravan and the caravan is

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Speaker 1: heading our way. Congratulations, we have another one. We stopped

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Speaker 1: the first one, we stopped the second one. We didn't

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Speaker 1: we have the border patrol. They've done an incredible job,

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Speaker 1: and Ice has done an incredible job all over the country. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: welcome the Buck Sexton show. President Trump's dead. It's strong

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Speaker 1: on this one, not backing down, not giving up. And

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's in fact the case that Nancy Pelosi has

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Speaker 1: And I really, I have to say, I've really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: that involves testing who can kick more dirt. I think

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Speaker 1: saying the fence so that they don't they don't have this,

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Speaker 1: small area. Um, but last two years, when somebody like

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Speaker 1: me said, you know, you're not going to build a

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Speaker 1: two thousand mile concrete barrier along the border, we were

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Speaker 1: accused of being cuts and globalists and for open borders.

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Speaker 1: And now the president is saying this. He's winning defense

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Speaker 1: debate though, which is a big change. I mean, anybody

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Speaker 1: who knows anything about the boy order now knows that

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Speaker 1: the fence out. Oh well people will know anything about

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Speaker 1: the border. No, the fence works. I mean that's no

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Speaker 1: longer up for discussion. Yeah, this is but see this

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Speaker 1: is what I mean. Well, you know he's switched on

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Speaker 1: the wall. Yeah, he switched from a wall to a fence.

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Speaker 1: What what sort of semantic baby ish nonsense is this? Okay,

439
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Speaker 1: he hasn't caved on this is so stupid. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: caved on the concept of a barrier or whether you

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Speaker 1: call it a wall or a fence. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is crazy, This is crazy. Well this is what you

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Speaker 1: get from from the never Trump or squad. And then

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Speaker 1: things got a little more interesting. Play twelve. Do you

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Speaker 1: think the border is important? Do you think the border

446
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Speaker 1: security is something that's worth Yeah? I didn't care. I

447
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Speaker 1: mean they passed along two thousand and six, saying you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do this right, never funded it. Now here we are.

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Speaker 1: There is a crisis of the border. Whether it's a

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Speaker 1: big crisis or a little crisis we could argue about,

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Speaker 1: but it's a major problem. There is no crisis of

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Speaker 1: the border. Yeah, but there is no There's no crisis

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Speaker 1: at the border that we cannot handle. There's lots of

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Speaker 1: ways of securing the border without engaging in the kind

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Speaker 1: of crude, reductionist fiction that Donald Trump has engaged in

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Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna build this big, beautiful wall that Mexico

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Speaker 1: is going to pay for it because buck betiful irishes.

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Speaker 1: He has had to change his position on what the wall.

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Speaker 1: It's a fence, maybe it's maybe it's not a wall.

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Speaker 1: Now we're saying it's a barrier. But this is a

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Speaker 1: position that anybody who's known about the border in any

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Speaker 1: real sense has known should happen for a long time.

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Speaker 1: They passed Congress passed along two thousand and six. I

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Speaker 1: need to do this. Trump has finally gotten this thing

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Speaker 1: to where it's close to maybe happening. And we're going

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Speaker 1: to criticize him because Mexico is not paying for it,

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Speaker 1: isn't a much more important issue that there's actually the

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Speaker 1: possibility of getting the wall that we even before we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get You know, this is I'm trying to have

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Speaker 1: a conversation like a normal person. What really matters here,

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna get a barrier, that we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a fence, that we're trying to do what should be done.

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Speaker 1: And he's saying, oh, this reductionist fiction of the wall

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Speaker 1: the Mexico this is all distraction. Border patrol and rations

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Speaker 1: and customs enforcement want a wall. Anyone who knows anything

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Speaker 1: about the border knows that we should have a barrier offense.

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Speaker 1: So wall, it doesn't matter. Something physical there to prevent

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Speaker 1: illegal entry into the country in areas where that is effective,

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Speaker 1: which is a lot of areas that are still open.

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Speaker 1: So what is this guy even talking about. By the

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Speaker 1: way he went on, he says during the interview, you

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Speaker 1: gotta watch it. You know, there shouldn't be a wall.

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Speaker 1: There should be a wall. Trump is ikey. I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, I just wish there were none of the

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Speaker 1: balls and strikes crowd on Trump. Some great people, they're honest,

486
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Speaker 1: they're smart. I'm fine with it. The never Trump squad.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who knows what the heck they're

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Speaker 1: talking anymore. It's just all bunk, it's all nonsense. Here

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Speaker 1: it is a wealth tax. It was only a matter

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Speaker 1: of time, my friends. It's not surprising at all, but

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Speaker 1: here it is. Elizabeth Warren apparently didn't have time to

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Speaker 1: hang out with Nathan Phillips at the Indigenous People's March.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed personally. I kind of would have

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Speaker 1: liked to have seen Elizabeth Warren, you know, suit up

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Speaker 1: and then uh and go to the list, go to

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Speaker 1: the Indigenous People's March, you know, because she's one one

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Speaker 1: and twenty fourth Native American. I think she's got to

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Speaker 1: represent that tiny, infinite, testimal fraction of herself that could

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Speaker 1: any way be described as Native American. I think she

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Speaker 1: needs to really, you know, say it loud and say

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Speaker 1: it proud on her Native American heritage. But she isn't

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Speaker 1: going away. There's a part of me I almost I

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Speaker 1: almost find myself respecting it. And I can't say I

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Speaker 1: do respect, but I almost respect her resilience because resilience

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Speaker 1: is an incredibly important character trait. I mean, as I

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Speaker 1: get a little older and see a little bit more

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Speaker 1: in life and actually feel like I know some things now.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, I thought I knew a lot of

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, I didn't know squat. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: more at thirty seven. I think at forty seven, I'll

511
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Speaker 1: probably think I'm, you know, some kind of savant. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know any twenty seven. I've learned a lot

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Speaker 1: since then. Resilience is key, being able to bounce back,

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Speaker 1: and and so that part of me that really just

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Speaker 1: respects that human quality that Elizabeth Warren with a straight face,

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Speaker 1: thinks there is any universe in which she is going

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Speaker 1: to successfully run for the presidency and she's going to

518
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Speaker 1: stick it out and stay in. This is wow. It

519
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: truly is wow. But she's got some tricks up her sleeve.

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Speaker 1: You know, she does have a few things. She doesn't

521
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Speaker 1: have a few cards to play and attacks that goes

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Speaker 1: after very wealthy Americans, you know, to really dig in

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Speaker 1: deep to the envy, the envy quotient here to you

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Speaker 1: whose class warfare as a central campaign theme, and promise

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Speaker 1: really that she's going to soap the rich, She's gonna

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Speaker 1: take him, take him down. It's powerful stuff. It works

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Speaker 1: very well. It works very well. It worked very well

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Speaker 1: for Chavez and Majuro in Venezuela, which we're going to

529
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Speaker 1: talk about in the third hour of the show, worked

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Speaker 1: really well for them. Didn't work out well for the

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan people, unfortunately, didn't work out well for those who

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Speaker 1: had to live with the consequences of empowering demagogues who

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Speaker 1: became despots. And by the way, usually despots start out

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Speaker 1: as demagogues. Worth noting. I also love the definition of

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Speaker 1: a demagogue as a person who says things he knows

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Speaker 1: to be untrue to a room full of people he

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Speaker 1: knows to be idiots. That's that's a pretty good working

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Speaker 1: definition of a of a demagogue. I think that's no.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see if I give the wrong

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Speaker 1: attribution on a quote. I know you you, This is

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Speaker 1: a very I gotta always do my homework and then

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Speaker 1: something before this show because this audience is you guys.

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Speaker 1: I know late, I gotta make a correction later on

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Speaker 1: in the show. Came into our inbox on something so

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Speaker 1: nothing nothing flies by this team. I use the past

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Speaker 1: plu perfect improperly, and all of a sudden, you know,

547
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Speaker 1: things go, things go wrong. But Elizabeth Ward is proposing

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Speaker 1: a wealth tax. Ah, here we are. Here's really this

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Speaker 1: sweet spot of the social justice left. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you, because I'm always honest with you, that this

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Speaker 1: is going to be. This is this is a powerful idea,

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Speaker 1: and it's powerful idea for a few reasons. But let

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Speaker 1: me just first tell you what the idea is. It's,

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Speaker 1: according to the Washington Washington Post, a wealth tax on

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Speaker 1: those with more than fifty million dollars. He says this

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Speaker 1: is to combat soaring wealth inequality. The tax would hit

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Speaker 1: those above fifty million with a two percent wealth tax

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Speaker 1: and those above one billion with a three percent wealth tax,

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Speaker 1: and that this is supposed to raise two point seven

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Speaker 1: five trillion dollars over the course of ten years. Now

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Speaker 1: here's where this is going to be. Here's where this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be tricky, folks. And I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 1: to you about this. If you're really going to talk

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Speaker 1: about inequality and what is fair, a wealth tax is

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Speaker 1: actually much more fair than an income tax. And you

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Speaker 1: know I cannot tell a lie. A wealth tax makes

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Speaker 1: a lot more sense. Think of it this way. If

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Speaker 1: somebody with a million dollars in the bank and the

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Speaker 1: numbers here, I'm just using them because they're easy, right,

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Speaker 1: But somebody with a million dollars in the bank makes

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year in unearned or rather, you know,

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Speaker 1: investment incomes and say unearned it's earned. Sorry, I know

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Speaker 1: that was a little I threw myself a flag there.

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Speaker 1: That sounded a little aoc like. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: unearned because like you didn't like, like work really hard,

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Speaker 1: like and at coffee shop to make it. I get it. Fine,

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Speaker 1: But if you make off of investment income fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars because you have a million dollars in the bank

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Speaker 1: and you've got a five percent municipal bond, let's say

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Speaker 1: it's like Bucks breaking out the green eye shade. Here,

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Speaker 1: let's break down the numbers, and then you work really

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Speaker 1: hard at your job, whatever job you have across a gun,

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Speaker 1: you make fifty thousand dollars. To treat that income as

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Speaker 1: though it has the same impact on your life is nonsensical.

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Speaker 1: It's just true, right, you know, to tell it's for

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Speaker 1: somebody who has a million dollars in the bank to

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Speaker 1: live off a fifty thousand dollars, which you know most

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Speaker 1: people the million dollars in the bank wouldn't be happy

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Speaker 1: to do that. But you know, if they want to

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Speaker 1: live off fifty thousand dollars a year, they can. But

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Speaker 1: to act like the financial pressures and financial reality of

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Speaker 1: somebody who makes fifty thousand dollars a year is the

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Speaker 1: same as somebody who is getting fifty thousand dollars a

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Speaker 1: year from the assets they have. This is why a

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Speaker 1: wealth tax. Actually you start to say, hmm, interesting. Now,

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Speaker 1: the way that the way that people always get around

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Speaker 1: this is what if your wealth is what if your

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Speaker 1: wealth is tied up in real estate or investments, or

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Speaker 1: you're not liquid in that percentage? And how do you

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Speaker 1: assess I mean, if you have if you've got a

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Speaker 1: ten million dollar home, is it really a seven million

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Speaker 1: dollar home? I mean, you know there, I understand there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of implementation problems at all, but I am

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Speaker 1: just saying from a political perspective, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a pretty potent idea. This is going to rally

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Speaker 1: the left because people can sit there and say to themselves, well,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second. You know, if one person has

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars in the bank and they make one

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Speaker 1: hundred grand, and another person has fifty dollars in the

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Speaker 1: bank and bank and they make a hundred grand. Treating

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Speaker 1: that income the same way is unfair. It just is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is an income tax is

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Speaker 1: really not dealing with the separation between people, because the

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Speaker 1: biggest problem that most folks have is just making enough

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Speaker 1: to sustain themselves, pay their bills and not fall into debt.

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Speaker 1: Once you get out of that trap, then you know,

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Speaker 1: money has a very different once you have enough to

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Speaker 1: cover the bills and to take care of your lifestyle

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Speaker 1: for you know, for the foreseeable money doesn't have quite

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Speaker 1: the same value. Right, what is this diminishing marginal utility?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk more about that another time.

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Speaker 1: But the Warren wealth tax here is going to have

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Speaker 1: a really this is this is not something that we

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Speaker 1: can just sort of laugh at and forget about, because

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Speaker 1: it's going to be powerful. Because finally, the big problem

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Speaker 1: of Democrats have in the past with the income tax

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Speaker 1: is that to say that somebody should be let's even

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Speaker 1: say somebody who makes two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: a year or you know, five hundred thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: they should be taxed the same way as somebody who

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Speaker 1: makes fifty million the same percentage. Why who came up

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Speaker 1: with that idea? You know, why is that fair? You know?

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Speaker 1: It really just turns into a fairness game. Look, this

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Speaker 1: is why I'm want a flat tax. I do not

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Speaker 1: believe in all this graduated income tax stuff. I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's nonsense. There's so many ways of people cheat,

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Speaker 1: and so many loopholes and all this other stuff. But

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Speaker 1: if we're really going to talk about what's fair, a

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Speaker 1: wealth tax is more fair than an income tax. So

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Speaker 1: any reason, any pregnancy up to the moment of conception,

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Speaker 1: sorry for them and really wondering what's gone wrong with

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Speaker 1: their souls. I can understand the good faith questions that

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Speaker 1: people have about about the life issue in certain ways

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Speaker 1: and at certain times, right, I mean, I can understand that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's have a debate over you know,

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Speaker 1: is it the moment of conception? Is it? Is it?

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Speaker 1: You know, when when it can feel pain or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the moment of conception. I think science

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Speaker 1: supports that. But the more important point here is just

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Speaker 1: that's not where the left wing Democrat party even wants

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Speaker 1: to have a discussion. That that doesn't really matter, That

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Speaker 1: that's just for the sake of creating a smoke screen

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Speaker 1: and making it seem like the pro life movement somehow

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Speaker 1: you don't you can't trust them on these things. You

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to say about these things

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Speaker 1: because they're just radicals, which of course all of this

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Speaker 1: is untrue. In fact, that the pro life movement is

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Speaker 1: over just so incredibly decent and thoughtful and full of

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Speaker 1: people that really do just want to support life, which

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Speaker 1: is as important to cause as exists in the world.

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Speaker 1: And they do. They march for life, they fight for life,

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Speaker 1: and they do so with dignity and decency. But when

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Speaker 1: we're now supposed to have a discussion with people who

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Speaker 1: are standing and cheering for this, they don't do this

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Speaker 1: shame that they are passing policy that without question would

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Speaker 1: allow for a baby at term to be terminated. It

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Speaker 1: is no it is now in the Health Code, it

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Speaker 1: is no longer in the legal Code. It is not

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Speaker 1: an exaggeration to say that this is satanic and that

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Speaker 1: this is the greatest moral sta on this country since slavery.

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Speaker 1: That that is no exaggeration. That is a i think,

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Speaker 1: a moral and ethical fact. And it's also, unfortunately, at

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Speaker 1: this point so central to the political and cultural identity

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Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party that the issue of abortion is

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Speaker 1: really an existential issue of power for the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: that they cannot conceive of a world in which finally

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Speaker 1: we come to our senses as a country and outlaw

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Speaker 1: this barbaric practice and say no more is this going

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Speaker 1: to happen. You know, whatever we have to do, however,

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Speaker 1: we have to set up you know, more more, you know,

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Speaker 1: adoption centers and facilities and more resource you know, whatever,

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Speaker 1: we have to do, whatever we have to do as

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Speaker 1: a country, so that so that babies are being born,

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Speaker 1: so that you don't have circumstances like you do in

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Speaker 1: New York City where one in three babies overall as

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Speaker 1: being a board, and more babies from the African American

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Speaker 1: community are aborted than born. Horrific, horrific statistics. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we should get to a place where whatever we have

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Speaker 1: to do as a country, we will do to stop

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Speaker 1: this practice, to prohibit this. You know, the human race

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Speaker 1: existed for a long time, and we've been around a

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Speaker 1: long time without people doing abortions at eight months, okay

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Speaker 1: or nine months. I mean, we've been around a long time.

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Speaker 1: This is not something that is a necessary part of

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Speaker 1: our survival. It's not necessary for women's liberation or any

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Speaker 1: of the stuff. That's all just brainwashed lies. But what

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Speaker 1: I was getting to with the Democrats and how it's

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Speaker 1: an existential issue for their power. Is that if we

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Speaker 1: move to a place of moral clarity on abortion, there

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Speaker 1: will also have to be a reckoning for what the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party has been doing all this time, and the yes,

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Speaker 1: look where they are now. But there would be a

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Speaker 1: period that would last for quite a while where the

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Speaker 1: Democrats moralize on how they pretend to care so much

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Speaker 1: about the poor, and they pretend to care so much

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Speaker 1: about women and minorities and all this stuff that's central

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Speaker 1: to their talking points. But if you look at their

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Speaker 1: leadership and how the party really governs and functions, I

747
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Speaker 1: think it's self evident that these are nothing more than

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Speaker 1: postures that they take for the reason of political popularity.

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Speaker 1: They won't want to have to face what they've done,

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Speaker 1: and they won't want the American people to finally turn

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Speaker 1: around and say, what have you been pushing for all

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Speaker 1: this time? What is wrong with you? Which is the

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Speaker 1: only question I think that really comes to mind that

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Speaker 1: one can even begin to answer in this situation, or

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Speaker 1: begin to ask it. Rather, in this situation, what is

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Speaker 1: wrong with you? And Andrew Cuomo is from what I

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Speaker 1: am told by people who have worked here and around

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Speaker 1: him a not a good man. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: people in the state of New York, where I'm from

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Speaker 1: would vote for somebody like this. I don't understand why

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Speaker 1: there's not more of an outrage from the Catholic community.

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Speaker 1: You know, where where are the Catholic firebrands? And again,

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Speaker 1: I don't leave out Evangelicals and Protestant denominations because of

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Speaker 1: any reason other than I'm just that's not what I

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Speaker 1: But the Catholic Church is very clear on one thing,

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Speaker 1: which is abortion is a is a is a serious sin.

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Speaker 1: And why aren't they you know, why aren't they excommunicating

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi? Why aren't they excommunicating Governor Cuomo. I think

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Speaker 1: these are completely fair questions. These are people who claim

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Speaker 1: to be of the faith, who are pushing for and

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Speaker 1: you know, forget about faith, I mean, forget about the

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Speaker 1: the religious component of thiss too. Anybody with a basic

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Speaker 1: understanding of science knows that this is life, and life

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Speaker 1: that is being extinguished. There are two beings here, there

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Speaker 1: are two human lives. There are two people that are

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Speaker 1: in this process of mother and baby in womb. There's

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Speaker 1: no way around this. This is like the left on

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Speaker 1: the gender identity debate, where they pretend that men and

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Speaker 1: they are wrong. And that then also leads to all

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Speaker 1: the other falsehoods around this, the inability that they have

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Speaker 1: to speak honestly about the abortion procedure, about what's involved

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Speaker 1: in it. So many people I know will say, oh,

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Speaker 1: then they will have to be told, oh, no, that

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Speaker 1: is just that is how barbaric this whole process is.

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Speaker 1: That is how wrong this is. And the Left is

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Speaker 1: the other versions of events. Guy's lying. But it shouldn't

853
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: be surprised to anyone because this this individual is in

854
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: fact a liar. Nathan Phillips is somebody who I think

855
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: people should understand is not to be trusted on this account,

856
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure on many other accounts as well. I mean,

857
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: he's clearly a weird guy, right, So I would I

858
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: would start with that, and which doesn't mean that he's untruthful,

859
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: but when you add into it all the things that

860
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: he said that are false, that are fake, you have

861
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: to stop and say to yourself, well, hold on just

862
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: a second, what exactly are we Why do we give

863
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: him that this benefit of the doubt? Oh, that's right,

864
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: because of his he's a Native American with military service.

865
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: That was the only story they wanted to tell. Kind

866
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: of reminds me remember what the Trayvon thing, when there

867
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: was such an effort and you saw it with with

868
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: Mike Brown too. You have a minority, and you know,

869
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: in the whole Ferguson situation, you have a minority in Ferguson,

870
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 1: a minority in Where was it, producer, Mike? Where was tripe?

871
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: Was that in Miami? Where was the tripe? I know

872
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: it was Florida? Where was it in Florida? I forget

873
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: now anyway, I think it was in the Miami area,

874
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: but I could be it could be in another So

875
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: it was in Florida. That's all it really matters. But

876
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: there was this very clear media decision to you know,

877
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: depict Trayvon Martin as a twelve year old, and in fact,

878
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: people forget this. It was an NBC reporter or producer

879
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: who changed the audio of that guy Zimmerman, so that

880
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: it sounded like he said something he didn't say, just

881
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: because she thought, you know, for the cause, you know,

882
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: why not, let's just stack the deck on this guy.

883
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: And you know, you had Mike Brown, this photo that

884
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: would show up of him all the time, was him

885
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: in his high school graduation photo. You know, clearly designed

886
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: Miami Gardens, Florida. Yeah, I was right about Treyvon. Okay,

887
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: clearly designed in the case of Mike Brown and Ferguson

888
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: to give the impression that he's some kind of scholar.

889
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy had just just strong arm robbed

890
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: a store moments before, and then he tried to strong

891
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: arm rob a cop of his gun and it didn't

892
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: work out well for him. This, you know, it reminds

893
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: me of how the media, you know, talks about the

894
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Covington story. Who look at the Treyvon case, you look

895
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: at the Mike Brown case, and there are people who

896
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: will still say that there are some kind of heroes.

897
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: I saw a Black Lives Matter march in New York

898
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: City where there was a bit there was a car

899
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, almost I think it was a pickup truck

900
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: driving down Sixth Avenue and there was a big placard

901
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: of Mike Brown. And you know, remember Mike Brown, Like

902
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: Mike Brown's some kind of hero Mike Brown. According to

903
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: eyewitness testimony that were included African Americans who lived by

904
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: the way in Saint Louis, and we're there for this

905
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: whole situation, Mike Brown attacked a cop. You know, probably

906
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: didn't like that. The cop, you know, told him to

907
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: get out of the middle of the road and asked

908
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: him if he had just been at a store or whatever,

909
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: and things got things got physical, and he tried to

910
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: charge a police officer. Well you try to charge a

911
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: cop and you're you know, six foot three and two

912
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds or whatever he was. Guess what,

913
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: It can end very badly. But they will stick to

914
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: the narrative even when it's false because it has emotional impact.

915
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: You see, it emotionally touches people. Even though it's not true,

916
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: it becomes a fiction that is useful. The media will

917
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: do this. They will tell stories to you that are

918
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: useful fiction. And that's why with this guy Nathan Philip Ups,

919
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's a Native American he was just there

920
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: peacefully praying. Wasn't doing you know? Also he was demonstrating

921
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: for who what is he? He's standing outside the Lincoln Memorials,

922
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: standing there, and he's part of the Indigenous People's march.

923
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what is what was really his purpose? Is

924
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: what I went on this guy as an activist. I'm

925
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: just curious. These are the questions I think a real

926
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: journalist would ask somebody. But instead, you know that they

927
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: present this narrative of a guy who they say, you know,

928
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: his his military service, uh, you know, and a Native

929
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: American background or all you need to know about him,

930
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: and then even his military service becomes a point of

931
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: some contention. Play five. Clear, you served in the Marines

932
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: at the time that Vietnam was going on, but she

933
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: did not serve overseas. What I've always said is I've

934
00:52:53,800 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: never stepped foot in South Vietnam, and that's I don't care.

935
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: How much care can that be when I come home

936
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: those times I got spin On, actually spin On called

937
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: a baby killer. I'm a Vietnam Times veterrian arnorable discharge. Yeah,

938
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: I gotta Section eight home because I'm a veteran, wartime

939
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: veteran like that arnorable in Deeter. So I have section

940
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: eight home. I have to defer to again defer to

941
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: the veterans and the audience about you know how this

942
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: guy's describing as time. I've always found that that's people

943
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: in the in the different civilian services of the country

944
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: as well overseas. You know, you always want to air

945
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: on the side of downplaying stuff, and you know, I

946
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't want to be you know, I was. I

947
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: was in a rock era, you know, desk kicker. It's like,

948
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: what does that mean? You're not a door kicker, You're

949
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: a desk kicker. I mean, what does that? Someone explain

950
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: that one to me? Um very very very strange from

951
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: this guy. But but you know, I just think that

952
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: they're latching onto this and they're they're not They're very

953
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: clearly not going to let it go. And then there's

954
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: one more thing here about the the smirk. This is

955
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: the issue Guthrie. I didn't get this yesterday Guthrie when

956
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: she asked Salmon, the fifteen year old kid, about his face. Here,

957
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: let's just dig into the playcli Bait. I see it

958
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: as a smile saying that this is the best you're

959
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: going to get. Out of me. You won't get any

960
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: further reaction of aggression. And I'm willing to stand here

961
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: as long as you want to hit this strong in

962
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: my face. What some people see as a young kid

963
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: with a smirk on his face. What would you say

964
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: for people who see that and are making a judgment

965
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: about who you are? Well, people who have judged me

966
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: and based off one expression which I wasn't smirking, but

967
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: people have assumed that's what I have and they've gone

968
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: from there to titling me and labeling me as a

969
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: racist person, someone that's disrespectful to adults, which they've had

970
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: to assume so many things to get there without consulting

971
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: anyone that can give them the opposite story. I just

972
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: want to know, look at how how very clearly she is.

973
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into this more in a moment,

974
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: but the difference in tone, it is so obvious. You know,

975
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: Guthree is very you know, playing the playing the tough

976
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: schoolmarm when it comes to Sandman. But you know, with Phillips,

977
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: the military vet and Native American activists, you know, just

978
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we're just so glad you're here. I'm

979
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: just so glad you're safe. After all those terrifying fifteen

980
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: year old high school Catholic boys didn't do anything to you,

981
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe they could have or something. I've

982
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: never had less respect for the media than I do

983
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: this week, and I'm never going to feel differently about

984
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: them than I do now. A troubling scene many are

985
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: calling a racist played out in Washington yesterday on the

986
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: steps of the Lincoln the morning some students harassing an

987
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: older Native American man of Vietnam vet. The situation came

988
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: to ahead when that young man there, wearing a Make

989
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: America Great Again hat, got right in his face and

990
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 1: didn't move. The video appears to show dozens of youths

991
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: wearing Make American Great Again hats mocking Native American elder

992
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: in Vietnam veteran Nathan Phillips. Yesterday, a Native American man

993
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: was confronted by young people make America Great hat song.

994
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: There's something wrong with that. Outrage over this now viral

995
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: video showing high school teenagers harassing a Native American elder.

996
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 1: When you have the kind of anger that we saw

997
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: at the Indigenous People's March where a veteran, a Native

998
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: American man was you had a standoff with students who were,

999
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, mocking him. A crowd of teenagers surrounding a

1000
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: Native American elder and other activists. As one smirking high

1001
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: school student blocks the elder's path, another man of peace

1002
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: stands face to face with Big. We feel that President

1003
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: Trump is giving license to some of this behavior, so

1004
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: much nonsense, so many lies from a media that does

1005
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: not seem to care very much at all, that they

1006
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: have put children in a situation where they are now

1007
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: receiving threats. They are now their parents have been receiving threats.

1008
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: They have to have police at their school. They are

1009
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: no longer in a situation where they can just focus

1010
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: on their studies and what should be going on in

1011
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: their lives. They have to now think about safety and

1012
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: the way they never have before. And I keep going

1013
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: back to this, they didn't do anything wrong. I don't

1014
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: mean that they didn't do anything really big wrong. They

1015
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. And this is why I think

1016
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: when I when I wrote earlier in the week about

1017
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: when I wrote on the Hill dot com out the

1018
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: way that the social media mop can come from anyone,

1019
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: can come for anyone. This is so instructive of that

1020
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: concept what's happened to the Covington students, And I think

1021
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: it's maybe starting to show people that there is a

1022
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: need to socially reject this idea that people should just

1023
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: get away with piling arm destroying someone's character, ruining their lives,

1024
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: ruining their reputation just because they feel like that. That

1025
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: should be considered entirely and totally unacceptable in every possible way.

1026
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: Because these kids, they didn't get in trouble because they

1027
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: were on social media. They got in trouble because they

1028
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: were on a school trip. People wrote to me because

1029
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: that column that I mentioned Earli the week, it went

1030
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: pretty viral. I mean, it got a pretty huge readership,

1031
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: which was nice. Thank you all of you, by the way,

1032
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: who share my stuff, whether it's you know, when I

1033
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: put out too links for the podcast or obviously articles

1034
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: that I've written. I'm trying to write every Monday now

1035
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: and going forward for a while. But I've I've got

1036
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: a heavy load that I have to carry in terms

1037
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: of the workload every day. So one thing I thought

1038
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: was interesting was how many people came to me with, well,

1039
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: the real the answer here is just don't be on

1040
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: social media, and no, no, no, no no, No, this isn't.

1041
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, how do you avoid being dragged which is

1042
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: what everyone calls it when you get the pylon and

1043
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: everyone's trying to destroy you on social media? How do

1044
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: you avoid getting dragged on social media if you're using Twitter,

1045
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: if you're using Facebook in these places? No, no, this

1046
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: is how do you go through life knowing that you

1047
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: can do something entirely insignificant and in which you are

1048
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 1: in no way wrong. But because of the social justice left,

1049
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: because of the kind of people that really like to

1050
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: leap on certain stories, create certain stories, even that fit

1051
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: a preconc see view that they have of the world.

1052
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: You could be walking to the grocery store and you

1053
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: bump into somebody walking in the door, and all of

1054
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, you turn into a viral meme. You know,

1055
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: if you're wearing if you were in a Maga hat,

1056
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: you better watch out. I've been thinking for a while

1057
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: it would be interesting just to see what the reactions

1058
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: were if I were to walk around certain parts of

1059
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: DC with a Maga hat on. I'm gonna be honest

1060
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: with one of the reasons I haven't done it and

1061
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: videotaped it obviously, is because I don't want to have

1062
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: to get into a confrontation with a possible physical confrontation

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Speaker 1: with something just for wearing the hat. I was very

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Speaker 1: disheartened today when on my own panel at the Hill,

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: I said that for Lissa Milano, who's Chihuahua almost peeed

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: on my foot, that one time, I'll always remember that,

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01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: We'll always have that Alyssa for a Lissa Milano to

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: say that the MAGA hat is similar to a KKK

1069
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: hood and for some of the people on my panel,

1070
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: the panel guests said that he kind of understands that.

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you can oppose Trump, you can hate

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01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: what he's doing and all that stuff, but let's not

1073
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: just completely forget about any reality, any sense of perspective

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01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: or context, you know. And this is where I am.

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01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: I just have media outrage fatigue on all things Trump.

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01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I do feel like sometimes if the Trumpster

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01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: did have a really bad day and did something really

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: really bad, I'd say, yeah, it's bad. But I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how much it would registre with me, because

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: I know the media would be saying, oh my gosh,

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01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: he's Hitler. No, he's not Hitler, he's not Hitler, and

1082
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: they need to stop this nonsense. But putting aside the

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: present for second, as you see, that same frenzy and

1084
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: that same over zealousness to try to tell certain stories

1085
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: about certain kinds of people can affect fifteen year old

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: kids on a school trip. It can affect anyone. You

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01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: don't it's not enough to not be a social media user.

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01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: If you leave your house, if you go to work,

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: if you have any interaction with the outside world, you

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01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: can be somebody who becomes a social media mem I

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: think of. You know, there have been some of these

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01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: cases where someone I think, wouldn't open the door to

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01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: a private apartment building for a group of a group

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: of kids, and you know, the person didn't believe they

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01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: lived there or had a reason to be there, and

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01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: that was called And I don't remember the specifics of

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: the story, so you know, maybe there was badtech whatever.

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01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying minor day to day interactions, because

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: we all carry the means to both record and transmit

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01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: to the Internet everything that's happening all the time, minor

1101
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: day to day interactions can become a national scandal. Even

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01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: if you don't have a Facebook account or a Twitter account.

1103
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're just out there doing anything.

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01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: And I think about how, you know, when I was

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01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: at when I was a student at Amherst, there was

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01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: we had this pretty pretty fancy gymnasium, I guess for

1107
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: a relatively small school, and wanted to use it. We

1108
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: had multiple basketball courts, and you know, it was a

1109
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: nice facility, and townies would would show up. And a

1110
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: good percentage of the townies, by the way, they weren't

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: African American, but they were non white. A few of

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: them I think were Filipino, a few of them. There

1113
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: were a bunch of different a bunch of different ethnicities

1114
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: represented in this group of townies that I'm thinking of

1115
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: in particular, and they would show up and they would

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: use our facilities. Now, technically they're not allowed to be there.

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: And more importantly than just the technicality of them not

1118
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be on the gymnasium, you know, using the

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01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: facilities that people are paying a lot of money to

1120
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: be able to use, is that there's actually a liability.

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01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: So if one of them were to break his ankle,

1122
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: he could sue the school and he'd win. Okay, So

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01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: there's a real reason for them not to be there.

1124
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: But when the students who were paid, you know, minimum

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: wage to sit at the door of the gymnasium, asked

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01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: them for their student IDs. Oh my gosh, there was

1127
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: a It was a huge scandal. And how dare they

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01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: because I think out of a group of twelve or

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01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: thirteen townies who were not students, there was one kid

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: who actually was a student, and he was a minority. Therefore,

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01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the fact that all the other kids they asked for

1132
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: their IDs who did not have them because they weren't

1133
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be there, forget about all that. It's just

1134
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: the one, the one person who was a student who

1135
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: had to show his ID. That became a giant scandal,

1136
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: and they wanted to install a wildly expensive I forget

1137
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: what it was, but you know it was I think

1138
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: in the at least in the tens, maybe even a

1139
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: low hundred of thousands of dollars system for swiping and

1140
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: all this. Anyway, it's just but I just think of

1141
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: these these incidents that I know have happened. Where could

1142
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: you imagine if this was caught on video? I mean,

1143
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: now you could be you could be in a position

1144
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: where you're you're the bad guy. You know, you're you're

1145
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: the bad person. You're the person that everybody gets to

1146
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: beat up on and say is terrible. And maybe we

1147
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: weren't even doing anything wrong, but that doesn't matter because

1148
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: the mob comes for you. And that's another part of

1149
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: this too. It doesn't matter where the truth is, as

1150
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: we see with the kids, I mean, it doesn't matter

1151
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: the mob at least as we see with the Covington kids.

1152
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: They the people that spread this stuff around. They feel

1153
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: righteous even when they're wrong, just like the media. And

1154
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about that in a moment here.

1155
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: First question, how are you doing? This has been a

1156
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: whirlwinds few days for you. You find yourself on the

1157
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: front page of every newspaper. How are you doing and

1158
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Well? I woke up strong this

1159
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: morning and with the really positive attitude, and I had

1160
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity to go and to traditional prayer ceremony, and

1161
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: that was the other night yesterday. I woke up with

1162
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: all kinds of good feelings in my heart for all

1163
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: those who've been been mean to me, I want to

1164
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: forgive them. Notice the tone of traditional mainstream media Darling

1165
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: Savannah gut three here, Notice the tone. Hey, so I

1166
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: just want to say, so, how are you doing? You know,

1167
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: how's it going? This is intentional, folks. The tone that

1168
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: she takes when interviewing the adult who has led to

1169
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: the threatening of the small children, right, or not small children,

1170
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: but the children or fifteen years old. The tone she

1171
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: takes toward the kids Sandman is much more along the

1172
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: lines of a scolding teacher who just wants the student

1173
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: to know how he's made it. You know what he's

1174
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: done wrong. It's it's not that I'm angry, Nicholas Sandman,

1175
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: It's it's that I'm disappointed. That was Savannah Cutthree's tone. Meanwhile,

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01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: with Nathan Phillips, she's like, bro, my fellow liberal activist,

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: my Native American brother who has suffered so much oppression

1178
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: because all Native Americans do. And I want the audience

1179
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: to know how much I care. As a good lib

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01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: who is in good standing with the Democratic Party. I

1181
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: want them to know how much I care about all

1182
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: of this. I want them to know that you know,

1183
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm on your side, even though I'm not going to

1184
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: say it openly and outright. This guy is a problem.

1185
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: This guy is the one who led to kids getting threats.

1186
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: He chose to create a weird confrontation. He was banging

1187
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: a drum in someone's face, which is very aggressive, and

1188
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: she clearly thinks that he's a good guy. And Savannah

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01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: Guthrie is a joke. He's a joke. I don't care,

1190
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: it's just true. Might try to be mean. She is not.

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01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: She is not a serious journalist in the sense that

1192
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: she has any ethics or integrity and how she approaches this.

1193
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: She's a partisan pretending to be a journalist, which is

1194
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: the worst kind. You want. You want some examples of

1195
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: just what I'm talking about here, play clip eighteen. These

1196
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: are all the times that Nathan Phillips attacked Nick Sandman

1197
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: in the interview where there was no pushback at all

1198
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: from Savannah Guthrie. Play I was upset. I was made

1199
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: to sit down and watch it. What was her reaction

1200
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: to it? Coached and written up for him? Insincerity, lack

1201
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: of responsibility. Well, if there's an apology, there'd be an

1202
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: apologie for his own behavior because of the tomahawk chop

1203
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 1: in the mocking. In one of his statements, he did

1204
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: say that he was the leader of that. He got

1205
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: permission from his school teacher. So there's there's a lot

1206
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: of times he could have walked away. You can hear

1207
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: him saying, build that wall. All that anger was directed

1208
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: at those four individuals, the black Israelites. It was getting

1209
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: really explosive. We were surrounded. We couldn't go right, we

1210
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: couldn't go left. Back how I was blocked. He has

1211
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: a PR firm, so those aren't even his words. If

1212
01:08:54,439 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: he has a PR firm, some sincerity, some sense of

1213
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: responsibility for his action. Yeah, they were surrounded, just like

1214
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: Phillips was surrounded back in Nam, right, a country he

1215
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: never set foot in. But les to refer to himself

1216
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: as a Vietnam time as veteran. I'll leave that to

1217
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: the vets in the audience. How much that annoys you,

1218
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: you know? How how I know some vets who said

1219
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: they feel like that's just on the edge of stolen

1220
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: valor to say that you are a combat vet in

1221
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: a war zone when you never even were in the

1222
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,919
Speaker 1: war zone. You are a refrigerator mechanic in the States,

1223
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: that you know. I'll leave that to the vets to

1224
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: to determine one way or the other. They can be

1225
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: the judges of that one. To me, it's it strikes

1226
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: me as problematic, But I'm not a vet, So I'll

1227
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: pose that one to those who are notice all the

1228
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: things he says here. I mean, he's trashing a fifteen

1229
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: year old kid. And you know, this guy's a professional activist.

1230
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: All he does, this is all he wants. I mean,

1231
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: this is probably the best day of his life. Let's

1232
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: just also agree on that. Right, he's not getting threats,

1233
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: His life hasn't been upended. You know, the media didn't

1234
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: didn't start trashing him. In fact, they made it very

1235
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: clear they think he's some kind of hero. You know,

1236
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: he's the good guy in this whole process. He's the

1237
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: one that everyone's supposed to say, oh wow, look at

1238
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: look at the terrible MAGA hat wearing white kids that

1239
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: have surrounded him, to say that the kids should have

1240
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: apologized for what exactly. Salmon didn't do anything. Producer Mike

1241
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: is telling me, this guy was also listed as a

1242
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: wall three different times, you know, I mean, yeah, take

1243
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: that for what it's worth. Salmon didn't do anything wrong.

1244
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: So I'm going to need someone to explain to me

1245
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: why should an individual apologize when that person did not,

1246
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: in fact do anything wrong. You know, why should somebody

1247
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: be in a position to say to the whole world

1248
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: of the whole country. Oh, I'm so sorry about that.

1249
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: I'll never let that happen again. When they didn't do

1250
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: anything that should require an apology, you know, I just

1251
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: have to say that. Then the media on this has

1252
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: somehow managed to be even worse, you know, the BuzzFeed debacle.

1253
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: We all said to ourselves, those of us are paying attention. Wow,

1254
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: these guys are so anti Trump that they can't they

1255
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: just can't shoot straight. I mean, they don't get it right.

1256
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: They flop on this one. You could tell the way

1257
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: the media was reporting on this, there was very yeah,

1258
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: if true, but then there was very little skepticism of this.

1259
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: There was a feverish excitement around the possibility of finally

1260
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: getting Trump. And Joey Baija says, you know, this is

1261
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: what this is, what this is all about. They want

1262
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: to get Trump, and anyone who's trying to stand in

1263
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: the way of them getting Trump is a problem, and

1264
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: they want to take Trump down and that's why they

1265
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: jump on these stories. Right, So we know all that,

1266
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: But then to tell this false narrative about these fifteen

1267
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: year old kids and to create a situation where the

1268
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: entirety of the media is then trying to scramble to

1269
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: find some justification, right, to find some justification for having

1270
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: reported on these kids this way. So that's when you

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Speaker 1: get they didn't even tell you about this they I

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Speaker 1: think it was NBC News, No Surprise, ran a story

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Speaker 1: about how a kid who claimed he wasn't allowed to

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Speaker 1: speak at his graduate high school graduation because he was gay.

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Speaker 1: I also read it was because he turned in his

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Speaker 1: speech late and he missed the deadline, but anyway, says

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Speaker 1: he was gay. They quoted him as saying, I'm not

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Speaker 1: surprised about what happened at Covington, and that became a

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Speaker 1: news story. The kid doesn't even go to Covington. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't know anything. He's just some kid from Kentucky who's

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Speaker 1: gay and says that he wouldn't be able to speak

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Speaker 1: because he's gay. And then he's picking on Covington. Was

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Speaker 1: he some kind of Covington expert? This is crazy what's

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Speaker 1: going on? But media is pathetic. Well, the big news

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Speaker 1: is the US is calling for a UN Security Council

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Speaker 1: meeting tomorrow morning to talk about the situation in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: It really seems to be reaching a crisis point between

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Speaker 1: the two sides. You have basically two presidents in the

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Speaker 1: country of Venezuela, one Maduro elected fraudulently according to the US.

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Speaker 1: He's telling US diplomats to get out of the country

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Speaker 1: within seventy two hours, that would be by Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, you have the man who's declared

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Speaker 1: himself president, Guan Guido. He is saying the US diplomats

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Speaker 1: don't need to leave, and the US is saying they're

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Speaker 1: going to listen to Guido. The diplomats will not leave.

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Speaker 1: All right. The crisis in Venezuela has finally reached a

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Speaker 1: tipping point. You heard there a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: breakdown on Fox News. Here's what's going on. You have

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people have flooded the streets in Caracas.

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Speaker 1: You have a member of the parliament there who, under

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Speaker 1: his constitutional authority, has aimed that there is a vacancy

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Speaker 1: in the presidency which he will temporarily fill until new

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Speaker 1: elections can happen. His name is Juan Guido. You just

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Speaker 1: heard there, and he is saying that the other current president,

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Speaker 1: although no longer accepted by the US government as president,

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Speaker 1: Nicolas Maduro, is illegitimate. This is in effect, the overthrow

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Speaker 1: of the Maduro regime via constitutional and legislative means inside

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Speaker 1: of Venezuela. Now, I think this could only be unless

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: we get incredibly unlucky. A good thing and a good sign.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, there is very little that we can

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Speaker 1: look to here from the regime and think that it

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Speaker 1: could get any worse. You know, when you start to

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Speaker 1: break down just how horrific the economy is. A million

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Speaker 1: percent inflation, folks, That was, which effectively means Venezuelan currency

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Speaker 1: has no value. Breadlines, toilet paper lines, shortages of all

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Speaker 1: kinds of foodstuffs, products, basic medicine, very treatable diseases have

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Speaker 1: been going untreated in Venezuela. People are losing weight, not

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Speaker 1: because they're trying to be because they have no choice.

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: They're losing weight in an unhealthy fashion. They're losing weight

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Speaker 1: in a quasi starvation state because they can't get enough food.

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Speaker 1: You have close to twenty thousand murders a year in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: It's a country of only thirty million people. It's the

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Speaker 1: size of California population wise. Imagine if there are almost

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand murders in California alone, Some of the most

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Speaker 1: senior government officials in the Majora regime have been sanctioned

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Speaker 1: as drug kingpins, and according to the US Treasury Department,

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Speaker 1: have been involved in using Venezuelan government resources in personnel

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Speaker 1: to tranship, upload, and offload mass of quantities of cocaine.

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Speaker 1: So this is effectively a narco state that we are

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Speaker 1: talking about. It has the largest proven oil reserves in

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Speaker 1: the world, larger than Saudi Arabia, as you know, but

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly poor because of the government mismanagement. Mismanagement's far

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01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: too gentle a word. This is Marxism and action. This

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01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 1: is socialism unveiled for the whole world to see. True

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Speaker 1: socialism where the government can seize the means of production

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Speaker 1: and tries to operate the means of production, where the

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Speaker 1: government can dictate anything it wants in the market, including

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Speaker 1: the prices that otherwise private businesses can set for their products.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens when you have a thugocracy that

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Speaker 1: uses the wealth gap in a country and yes, the

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Speaker 1: envy and the political opportunities that that creates, in order

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Speaker 1: to exploit the frustration of the people in a promised

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Speaker 1: revolution of the people that turns into nothing more than

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Speaker 1: what we always see with these kinds of pseudo revolutionary movements,

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: where the fat cats in charge get fatter, the people

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: have heavier chains and more prison time ahead of them

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Speaker 1: because the state itself becomes a prison. This is what

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Speaker 1: Venezuela has turned into in front of the whole world.

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Speaker 1: And it's worth noting that liberals were chairing for this

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Speaker 1: regime in the Chavez years and hopeful in the Maduro years,

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Speaker 1: if not a little bit rooting for it too. That

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Speaker 1: the libs back in twenty eleven and twenty twelve at

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, the Washington Post and elsewhere, we're

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Speaker 1: suggesting that the populist, yes it's not a dirty word

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Speaker 1: when they use it about a Marxist, the populist revolutionary

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Speaker 1: Bolivarian impulses of first Chavez and then Maduro. Maybe we're

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Speaker 1: going to work out just fine. Maybe this would be

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Speaker 1: a model for the rest of Latin America. This was

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01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: delusional nonsense from the start. We all should have known.

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Speaker 1: We should know that a country that has leaders that

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Speaker 1: want to be friends with Cuba and Russia and Turkey

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Speaker 1: and every bad actor Iran, every bad actor in the world,

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Speaker 1: is a regime that tells you all you need to

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Speaker 1: know about it. And when you look back in the

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Speaker 1: earlier days of the Chavez regime, remember Majuro was chavez

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Speaker 1: Is stooge who took over for him. Chavez used to

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Speaker 1: spend up to forty hours a week, yes that's right,

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Speaker 1: four zero hours a week doing a television program where

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Speaker 1: he would ramble on endlessly about whatever he felt like,

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Speaker 1: and would make policy declarations and decide that some businesses

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Speaker 1: we're going to get shut down or seized by the

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Speaker 1: government during that live program. Chavez was a conspiracy theorist

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Speaker 1: who did not believe in bin Laden, did not believe

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Speaker 1: that the Earth, rather that the United States had landed

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Speaker 1: on the Moon, and at one point had the remains

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Speaker 1: of Simon Bolivar interred from the grade they were held

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Speaker 1: in in order to run some kind of a test

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Speaker 1: to compare himself to the Bolivar. I mean, it's crazy,

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Speaker 1: and this country has been destroyed. It has been destroyed.

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Speaker 1: It has been taken down to the seventh circle of

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Speaker 1: Hell by people who complain about Yankee imperialism, you know,

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Speaker 1: American dominance in the Western hemisphere, who say that capitalism

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Speaker 1: is the exploitation of the week by those who are

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Speaker 1: already in power, who were able to convince a lot

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Speaker 1: of people with a pretty minimal level of education and

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Speaker 1: resources that their lot was going to get better if

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Speaker 1: they just turned over all the power. That and then

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Speaker 1: some that their government had to a bunch of thugs,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of thugs, and it's a shame what's happened

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Speaker 1: to Venezuela. But the US now has backed this new

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Speaker 1: Guido presidency and we shall see. Rahim Kasama is going

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Speaker 1: to join us the Minister to talk more Venezuela. Stay

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Speaker 1: with me. You're probably familiar with AARP, you're someone you

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Speaker 1: know might already be a member, But did you know

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Speaker 1: that the AARP is actually pretty left wing. They fought

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Speaker 1: tooth and nail for a government run healthcare system, and

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Speaker 1: really they don't support what you support. I recommend AMAC instead.

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Speaker 1: Why AMAC? Well, AMAC actually wants border security. AMAC advocates

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Speaker 1: for seniors but also wants to fix social security, so

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Speaker 1: it's there for seniors, and you get lots of great

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Speaker 1: benefits from membership in AMAC, like discounts on car insurance, hotels,

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Speaker 1: roadside assistants, dental plans, all kinds of stuff. So stand

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Speaker 1: with AMAC. As they fight the good fight by becoming

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Speaker 1: a member today. The benefits are great, but the cause

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Speaker 1: is even greater. Tell your family and tell your friends

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Speaker 1: join right now at AMAC dot us slash buck. That's

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Speaker 1: am AC dot us slash buck again. AMAC dot us

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Speaker 1: slash buck. AMAC is better, better for you, better for America.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, and it's not for me

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Speaker 1: to make announcements or even openly speculate. These are decisions

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Speaker 1: made by the president. But if any harm should come

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Speaker 1: to these diplomats from the United States, I want everybody

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Speaker 1: to know that the consequences I believe from this administration

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Speaker 1: the Dolompo's will be swift and they'll be decisive. I

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Speaker 1: know this for certainty, and I think that message needs

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Speaker 1: to be clear well. Marco Rubio saying, if the Maduro

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Speaker 1: regime in what could be its last days, although who knows,

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Speaker 1: we're to go after the US embassy after giving a

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Speaker 1: seventy two seventy two hour deadline for all of our

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Speaker 1: diplomats to get out, that the consequences would be swift

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Speaker 1: and severe. I don't really know specifically what he means.

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Speaker 1: I think we're all assuming he means military intervention of

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Speaker 1: some kind to protect our diplomats. But let's get into this,

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Speaker 1: shall we. We have our friend Rahim Kassam, Rahim the Dream.

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Speaker 1: He is on the phone with us right now. He is,

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Speaker 1: of course the author of No Go Zones, author, former

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Speaker 1: of advisor to Nigel Farage and Claremont Institute fellow and

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Speaker 1: generalman about town. Mister raheem, good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Hey Buck, hey doing, I'm good man. So what do

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Speaker 1: you what do you think about what we've done or

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Speaker 1: what Trump has done an administration has done so far

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Speaker 1: about this, this crisis in Venezuela of you know, two

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Speaker 1: presidents only one presidency. Yeah, well, I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: just so people don't wonder why the heck I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Venezuela. I've actually had a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: Venezuela in the past five or six years, working closely

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Speaker 1: with people like Diego Aria and some other propos of

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Speaker 1: figures in the country. And it's and it's a very

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Speaker 1: important country as far as the US southern border is concerned.

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Speaker 1: It's also a very important country as far as the

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Speaker 1: enemies of the West are concerned. I e Iran, Russia

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Speaker 1: and further afield too. So those that two ways and

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Speaker 1: reasons that I look at this. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: southern border for an example. First, you know, we've seen

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans fleeing into Mexico and other

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Speaker 1: surrounding Central and Latin American countries over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, and that is obviously, naturally a case of

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Speaker 1: the socialist policies and the prendo nature of the Bolvarian,

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Speaker 1: Chavez and Madureau governments, respectively. So you have a situation

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Speaker 1: where Venezuela has put an amount of strain on Mexico,

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Speaker 1: and in turn Mexico then dealing that strain in turn

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Speaker 1: to its border with the United States. So from the

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Speaker 1: starting point, I think this administration in the United States,

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration, recognizes that in order to deal with

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Speaker 1: a lot of the sort of refugee and asylum problems

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Speaker 1: that are coming up through Southern America, you have to

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Speaker 1: deal with what's going on in Venezuela, and so I

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Speaker 1: think that is the national security and national interest concern

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Speaker 1: of the United States. The second part of it is,

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Speaker 1: as I say, the foreign policy element to it. Venezuela's

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Speaker 1: under Maduro and Shavas stood with firmly Iran, and the

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Speaker 1: non aligned movement around the world, which has played both

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Speaker 1: inside the United Nations and as its own force against

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Speaker 1: the played growth firmly against the United States, against the

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Speaker 1: United States allies such as the State of Israel and

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And so because I think

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Speaker 1: one of this administration's major priorities is also to weaken

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Speaker 1: the Arabian regime, helping to topple the current Venezuelan regime

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Speaker 1: goes somewhere into doing that too. That we also have

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Speaker 1: to consider that this administration, the Trump administration, has for

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Speaker 1: a long time said, you know, you don't need boots

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Speaker 1: on the ground, you don't need invasions to shape the

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Speaker 1: world geo politically and to address either strategic issues, national

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Speaker 1: security issues, or indeed humanitarian crises. And once again it

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Speaker 1: was seeing the Trump administration as people you and I know, Buck,

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Speaker 1: they're using other things in the arsenal to get boost

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Speaker 1: things done. Now, the near conservatives of the political establishment

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Speaker 1: on the film maybe a little bit mortified by that

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Speaker 1: because it sort of proves their entire resondentre incorrect. But

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Speaker 1: I think for the rest of the world, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a sigh of relief that you know, we can

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Speaker 1: both eradicate and target inequity in the world, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily require you know, flags draped, dohn coffins coming back,

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Speaker 1: or the expenditure of trillions of dollars. We're speaking of

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Speaker 1: Rahim Kassam, author No go Zones. You all know him

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Speaker 1: from also his very excellent guest hosting here on the

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Speaker 1: Bucksaccent Show. What do you think about what what Trump

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Speaker 1: has done so far? I was seeing and I always

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Speaker 1: have to avoid words words like surprise and shock because

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Speaker 1: it's not neither surprising nor shocking that there are some

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01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: liberals who, in their US to just own Drump at

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Speaker 1: every opportunity are saying that, you know, it's a terrible

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Speaker 1: idea that Trump is backing gui Ido and essentially, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're meddling, and this just you know, it's to me

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Speaker 1: if there's ever a case for us. We're not intervening militarily,

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Speaker 1: we're interviewing diplomatically. I feel like to not interview in

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Speaker 1: diplomatic at this point would be to make a choice

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Speaker 1: in and of itself. But what do you think about

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Speaker 1: the decision making that Trump has done so far? And

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Speaker 1: do you have concerns that this is going to lead

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Speaker 1: to some kind of US mission creep in Venezuela, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say, and I don't want, you know,

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Speaker 1: one hundred first airborne landing in Caracas. And I don't

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01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: think anybody else does either. No, that's exactly right. And

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01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: then and nor do I, And I don't think America's

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01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: allies want to be part of anything like that or

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: either I don't think that's in the nature of this administration. Look,

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: it's it's exactly what you said. You know, the last

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Speaker 1: couple of administrations in the United States, the Obama administration

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Speaker 1: and the Bush administration, they took no action. And in

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01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: taking no action, they make an active choice. They made

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Speaker 1: an active choice that they were quite happy to let

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Speaker 1: the Bolvarian Republic under Chavez and under Maduro um not

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01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: just stand, but but but flourish in the sense of

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01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's pincer movement of power over the Venezuelan people.

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Speaker 1: US foreign policy is as well as the foreign policy,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and this is because this is not

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Speaker 1: just a US problem. It's not a US problem per

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01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: se at all, but the foreign policy of the rest

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01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: of the world, including the European Union, the United Kingdom,

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01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, stood by and watched these guys

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Speaker 1: as they as they raped their country of wealth. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think, I think the Chavez fammily has something like

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01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: forty billion dollars in their bank accounts at the moment,

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01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: and while the people there were forced to do god

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01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: awful things for basic amenities such as food, water, toilet paper,

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01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: and so forth. Now again, how does that relate to

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Speaker 1: the United States And why is that an American problem?

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Speaker 1: Strictly speaking, it isn't, but it is a problem once

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Speaker 1: the migrant crisis that has gripped Latin America and prove

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01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Central America up into Mexico and then onto the US

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01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: border becomes a harsh reality. And it has become a

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Speaker 1: harsh reality. But you know, you were there last week.

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's you know, four hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: Venezuelans at the US southern border, but it is a

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Speaker 1: constituent part of that problem, and it is a constituent

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Speaker 1: part of how the Mexicans are dealing with their own

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01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: immigration problems at the moment. Trying to shift a lot

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01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: of the blame and the burden away up to the

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01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: US southern border. So I think this administration has taken

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Speaker 1: into account a vast array of things. I don't think

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01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: it's going to have any military intervention in mind here

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01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: apart from perhaps having to evacuate diplomatis the situation worsens,

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01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: But that's not unactive. That's more of a passive thing

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01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: to do and one which you would expect. Um, how

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01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: much can I can I want to ask you a

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01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: question him about just they can avoid it. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you a question about sort of broader Latin

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Speaker 1: American political instability and troubles here. How much of of

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01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: the the political dysfunction that this kind of um, a

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Speaker 1: kind of of Marxist cycle that keeps cropping up in

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Speaker 1: Latin America. Uh, do you think is is really just

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01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: a result of continued and in part because the some

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01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: of the political class in these different countries will will

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01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: use this, they'll find this, but the continued resentment about

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01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: North American history in the region and North what they

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01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: view as a kind of Yankee imperialism, because you know,

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01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: these are countries Venezuela, Mexico, Cuba, Nicaragua that should not

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01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: have by all accounts, all the problems they do. You know,

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01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 1: they should be a little bit more like Canada, but

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01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: yet they are not. What do you what do you

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01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: think is going on with that? You know, I can't

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Speaker 1: speak to the mentality um of of of Latin America.

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Speaker 1: But but what I will say is this, there is

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Speaker 1: a there is a distinction, UM, you know, some hemispherically

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Speaker 1: between the United States and Canada. And let's take the

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom. If you were able to sort of draw

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Speaker 1: a line across the ATLANTICUM, and then you go south

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Speaker 1: of that line, and of course you've got South America,

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Speaker 1: and you've got Europe UM, and you've got Europe's homer

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Speaker 1: colonies in Africa as well. And the southern part of

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Speaker 1: that line is socialistic, welfareistic defers to the state UM,

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01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: doesn't have much concern for either the individual or the

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Speaker 1: concept of of of of of human dignity and sovereignty

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01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: as as pertains their government and their constitutions. UM. And

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01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: so I think it's I think it's more of am

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Speaker 1: a ligne influence of European welfareism that still plagues South

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01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 1: America than anything else. And you know what you might

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Speaker 1: refer to, well, not what you might refer to. But

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01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: what the left might refer to, as you know, Yankee

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01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: imperialism or so on and so forth, is just what

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Speaker 1: we know as the historic and repeated continuation of British liberties,

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Speaker 1: common law, um and and you know, human dignity and

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01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,520
Speaker 1: sovereignty over over oneself and one's responsibilities and so Philosophically,

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01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: it's a very interesting delineation that you can draw literally

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Speaker 1: physically on a map. But besides that, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: why they haven't snapped out of it. To be fair,

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01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why either. But Venezuela is going to

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Speaker 1: get I think it's gonna get a lot dodgier before

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01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: it gets any better. Our man Rahim Kasama follow him

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01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Raheem kasamos Rahem Kasam dot com is

1592
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: his sight and we'll have more of his projects for

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01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: you to talk about in the new year or as

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01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: the new year keeps going. Raheem, thanks so much for

1595
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: making the time, my friend. Thanks much, Team hit A

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01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: quick break will be right back. It's alive. I've never

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01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: seen the original Frankenstunt movie. I just realized this as

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01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: we play that a little clip for you there. But

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01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: that's that's a little special intro. Now, whenever we talk

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Speaker 1: about libs and science, it's alive because they're all freaked

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Speaker 1: out about it. And climate change is the LIBS science

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01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: topic of today because it really has very little to

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01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: do with science. This is a virtue signaling through the

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01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: prism of perceived scientific consensus. But that's one not a

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01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: thing when it comes to climate change, other than to

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01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: say that climate change exists. But will of course climate

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01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: change exists, right, we can start to reduce this down.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the climate is changing, the climate is always changing.

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01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: What would be bizarre is if the climate, given all

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Speaker 1: the factors involved, stayed at exactly the same temperature globally

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Speaker 1: year in and year out and for all of eternity.

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Speaker 1: That that would seem rather strange, wouldn't it. There are

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01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: fluctuations in climate every day, so shouldn't there be fluctuations

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01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: in the average climate every year? But nonetheless, this is

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01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: obviously where they say that, oh, it's about human human involvement,

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01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: a human cause climate change, all this stuff. Humans are there,

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01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: the primary They use a lot of these kind of

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01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 1: very non scientific words. You'll notice that you know humans

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01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: are a primary cause of climate change. Well, what percentage

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01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: five fifty ninety point zero zero five. Yeah, do I

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01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: think that human beings are probably point zero zero five

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01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: percent of climate change? That sounds about right? Am I

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01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna leave it? Lose any sleep over that? No? But

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01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, neither or really anybody else NBC News,

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01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: which has covered itself in ignominious stank for the last

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01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: few days way it's been covering the Covington kids situation,

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01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 1: and NBC News has come out with, well, they're just

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01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: popularizing or publicizing this survey that was done by Hey,

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01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: who cares, I don't know, someplace that does big surveys

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01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 1: of climate change. And according to the latest poll data,

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01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: seven and ten Americans, or sixty nine percent, say that

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01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 1: they are somewhat worried about global warming. Twenty nine percent

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01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: say they're very worried. And who wants to bet that

1634
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: those are all super libs who think that Nancy Pelosi

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01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: is just like so smart and like she just totally

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01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: cares about poor people on the climate, and like she

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01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: really wants to make everything better. Yeah, all that stuff,

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01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: But what's really funny is that the upside of this

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01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: for all the rest of us is that guess what, Americans,

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01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: despite the knowledge of climate change. Despite the numbers that

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01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: say that some people healthy portion of the population has

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01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: either some or a lot of concern about it, do

1643
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: not want to have to do anything in terms of

1644
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: paying more money to deal with it. Oh, what a shock.

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01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 1: They don't want to you know you have here. The

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01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,719
Speaker 1: surveys showed conditional support for taxing carbon emissions. It found

1647
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: support grew if the taxes went to prefer uses, with

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01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent saying they would approve of the changes

1649
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: or charges if the money went to restore forests, etc.

1650
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: But the AP survey showed that Americans don't want to

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01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: pay very much to fight climate change. A one dollar

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01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: a month fee was favored by fifty seven percent of

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01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: those surveyed. However, if the monthly charge increased to ten

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01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: dollars a month, just twenty eight percent would be supportive,

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01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: while sixty eight percent would be opposed. Oh, that's right.

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01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: People are really worried about climate change ending the world

1657
01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: because they think that the science says that except for

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01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not so worried, they do not

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01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: care enough that they're willing to pay even ten dollars

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01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: a month. That's right, ten dollars a month to deal

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01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: with the problem. So this is why I cannot take

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01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: this seriously the way that Libs want me to. And

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01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: I know that some of them, including lib friends of mine,

1664
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: think that I'm just They think I'm nuts on climate change,

1665
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: and I just say, what do you not get? They're

1666
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: wrong on this over and over again. I'm going to

1667
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 1: be right, Okazio Cortez and her ilk are going to

1668
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: be wrong. The World's not going to end in twelve years.

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01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: New York and Florida and California are not going to

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01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: be underwater in twenty I guarantee it. I mean, I

1671
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: always tell you I can't predict the future, but there

1672
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 1: are some things I can predict, you know, maybe not

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01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: with one hundred percent certainty, but ninety nine point nine

1674
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: and the world is not going to end because of

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01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: climate change in ten years, or in a hundred years

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01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: or a thousand years. I promise you what's not going

1677
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: to happen. These people are just self indulgent, virtue signaling wackos.

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01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 1: There I said, it ain't no party like a Team

1679
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: Buck party, because a Team Buck party don't stop. Yeah,

1680
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: we got Buck turned up to eleven. It's time for

1681
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: roll call. Oh, many wet and rainy day here in DC.

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01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully wherever you are across the country, it's quite a

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01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: bit nicer. I did get to interview a congressman from

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01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: San Diego right before he said, well, it's only about

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01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: seventy five degrees here, and he was a Democrat, so

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01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: I had to ask him a question that he didn't

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01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 1: know the answer to. That was fun during the interview.

1688
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: Why do hunter and migrants who just want to flee

1689
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: oppression and violence stop in Mexico and then refuse to

1690
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: accept asylum and stay in Mexico didn't have didn't have

1691
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: an answer for that one. I thought that was interesting,

1692
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 1: which if I were a congressman from border state, I'd

1693
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 1: probably be ready for that one. But it's what he

1694
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 1: got for flaunting is good weather at US. I was

1695
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: just talking to an old radio friend and advisor last

1696
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: n out of the phone and I said, you know, man,

1697
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: you gotta I gotta get out to LA for some

1698
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 1: I want to do some I want to do some

1699
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: team buck meetups across the country and especially in warm places.

1700
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: Let's let's get to it, you know, And he said,

1701
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: maybe we can make it happen in Los Angeles so

1702
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hoping to get out to La soon, certainly

1703
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: in March, if not February, and I'm maybe I'll even

1704
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: stay out there for quite a way as if I can.

1705
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 1: All Right, roll call time. Not just Buck babbling on

1706
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: about nonsense, but Team buck La. Get ready for it.

1707
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: The Buck Nato is coming for you, Kurt. First up

1708
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash buck Sex and if you want

1709
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 1: to get in on the action, I watched your interview

1710
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: with Charlie Sykes on Rising. I'm sure there must be

1711
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: tens of readers who enjoy the bulwork. But what I

1712
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,839
Speaker 1: wanted to respond to was Jamal's claim that most illegal

1713
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: immigrants are visa overstays. In fact, there are three illegal

1714
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: visa entries for every two overstays. That isn't most In

1715
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: my book Shields High, Kurt, you know, I actually don't

1716
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: know those numbers offhand. I think you are correct, but

1717
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 1: I would have to look into what the specifics are

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01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: about how many there are. Mean, yeah, there's a half

1719
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: million visa overstays. I mean I can tell you that

1720
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: there were one hundred thousand family units that showed up

1721
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: at the border requesting asylum last year, and those family

1722
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 1: units are at least two people, in some cases three

1723
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: or four. So that's not any quote illegal crossings because

1724
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: when they come into the country, they are in fact

1725
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: entering into a legal process by claiming asylum, and then

1726
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 1: eighty percent of them do not show up for there yours,

1727
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: Andrew Rights, got to call you out on something. The

1728
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: etymology of sollipsism derived from a Latin's sole equal sun.

1729
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: My dictionary gives etymology as derived from solos meaning alone.

1730
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: I've always thought of soleipsism as the belief that all

1731
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 1: external stimuli are nothing more than a dream. Definitely, not

1732
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: that someone is the center of the universe like the sun.

1733
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,839
Speaker 1: You are correct, Andrew, and I want to blame whoever

1734
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: told me the wrong thing here about soleopsism in terms

1735
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: of etymology from a definitional perspective, I am not the

1736
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 1: way I explain the definition is a way that people

1737
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: will meaning that you know you think you're the center

1738
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: of the universe. Technically, soleopsism as a as a philosophy

1739
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: is the ideology that only you or the philosophy I

1740
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 1: should say that only you, your own brain, your own thoughts,

1741
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: can exist and you can know nothing else beyond it.

1742
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: But if people refer to somebody as being soleopsistic, it's

1743
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: it means that they're not thinking about anybody else and

1744
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: are Essentially, it's a way of a fancy way of

1745
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: saying selfishness. Right. So there you have it here, characterized

1746
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: by solopsis and this is from a dictionary dot com,

1747
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: the theory that only the self exists. Her treatment of

1748
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: philosophy dealt with madness as a complete, self contained, sollipsistic world.

1749
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: So it's totally self contained. It's all about you. It's

1750
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: also an expansion of what's called the egocentric problem and

1751
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: the inability to view reality outside your own perceptions. But yes,

1752
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 1: you're right, soulis not from soul the sun. It's from

1753
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: soulis alone. I despise being wrong. I won't say who

1754
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 1: told me this because I told this a long time ago,

1755
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 1: but I was told the wrong thing. Nonetheless, the reward

1756
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: is correct. The etymology needed to be corrected, So thank

1757
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you for that, even though now I'm gonna go scream

1758
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: into a pillar because I'm mad. Max rights. Hey, there, Buck,

1759
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: negotiations over the wall and shutdown don't seem to be

1760
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,600
Speaker 1: moving along very quickly. What do you think of the

1761
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 1: idea of Trump saying that his compromise offer has an

1762
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: expiration date, say two weeks or so after that he'd

1763
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: revised his terms to be less favorable to Democrats, for example,

1764
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 1: more wall funding from and or shorter protection for DACA.

1765
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: Enjoying the show, Well, Max, you know he's trying to negotiate.

1766
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: He's trying to get them to do something that they

1767
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: don't want to do, and you know that involves trying

1768
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 1: to do sometimes position yourself so that you have leverage

1769
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: over the other side. I think that the Democrats, unfortunately,

1770
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 1: are better at playing the zero sum, all or nothing

1771
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: political game than Republicans are, and maybe maybe even than

1772
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Trump is. I'm I'm not quite sure, but I will

1773
01:42:53,800 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: say that. And Coulter wrote an I think it was

1774
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 1: just published yesterday where she says that what should really

1775
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: happen is Trump should just build the wall. Just build

1776
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: the wall. Just tell the National Guard, tell the Army

1777
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Corps of Engineers, whoever the specific the specific body, maybe

1778
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: tell them to build the wall and make the court

1779
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: stop you and then win in court in time to

1780
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: be reelected president. That's what That's what I think is

1781
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: increasingly likely here. And I think that the other option

1782
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: would be for the president to start the government up again.

1783
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Remember he could start the government up and then say, Okay,

1784
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I funded the government. And remember we keep saying this.

1785
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 1: I hate the way we're forced to talk about this.

1786
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: Eighty five percent of the government is funded. We are

1787
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: talking about fifteen percent of the federal government, and people

1788
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: refer to this like it's a catastrophe. So I think

1789
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 1: that there's a real possibility that maybe the government does

1790
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: get funded and then Trump says, Okay, we funded the government.

1791
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: We've had this discussion. This is nonsense. Democrats are crazy.

1792
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm just going to declare a national emergency and funnel

1793
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: and not forget fund the wall, just build the wall.

1794
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: He's just gonna do it. I think that's very possible.

1795
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: So that's how I see this going on. Stanton, excellent

1796
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: vid of you taking that rhino Charlie Sykes to town

1797
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: on border security. I'm so sick of hearing that it's

1798
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: just a strong man argument to say the Left isn't

1799
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: for securing our southern border. At some point, Dems will

1800
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: need to provide actual proof that they support curbing illegal

1801
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: immigration in any way, or they could just publicly acknowledge

1802
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 1: and embrace their open border agenda and save us all

1803
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: a lot of time and energy. But whatever, keep up

1804
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: the good fight. Buck well, buck, I'm bucking your Stanton,

1805
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Thank you Stanton. And yes, you know Charlie's he's I

1806
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 1: don't mind his you know, I'm happy to talk to

1807
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: people about ideas. He's just kind of smug and undeserving

1808
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: of his degree of smugness. You know, he's a guy

1809
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: who okay, I mean he was hosting a radio show

1810
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: before he was now the editor of The Bullwork and

1811
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 1: now he's sitting down talking to me. I mean a

1812
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 1: lot more people listen to this radio show than listen

1813
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: to his radio show. We can tell you that. So

1814
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 1: why why the condescension? Like what's what's his based on

1815
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: what exactly? And also, I mean you can see his argument.

1816
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: He contradicts himself. He's self refuting, but he likes to

1817
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: pepper in a lot of and you see this among

1818
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: the never Trumpers, the Max Boots, the Bill Crystal, the

1819
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: you know name and never Trumper there's always this, Oh,

1820
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, let's turn to the facts or I'm sorry

1821
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: if I have to use some big words here, like buddy,

1822
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: I'll I don't know what to tell you, but no

1823
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: one is impressed, and you're not speaking above anyone, You're

1824
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: actually speaking below them because you don't know what the

1825
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: hell you are talking about. So if you haven't seen

1826
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:52,839
Speaker 1: that video, I think I put it up on Facebook

1827
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 1: before you can check it out there. But we do

1828
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: get into the back and forth over this. My colleague Jamal,

1829
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: who's a Democrat, let me do most of the interview, fortunately,

1830
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: because that was the most interesting thing that could have happened.

1831
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Although having somebody else there, I had to defer my

1832
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: time to him a little bit, and I wish you

1833
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: it had just been Charlie Sykes. To me, this is

1834
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: one of the problems with a left right style show

1835
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 1: is sometimes the left or the right person is pretty

1836
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: superfluous in the conversation, just because you know, there are

1837
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 1: times when Christo really wants to fight with Candice Owens

1838
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna sit there and there's nothing for

1839
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 1: me to do. I mean, I tried to cut it

1840
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: in a couple of times, but I couldn't. But with Jamal,

1841
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 1: I thought was so interesting was that Charlie Sykes entirely

1842
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 1: agrees with everything Jamal says about immigration. Jamal's a Democrat,

1843
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 1: So that's fine. But Charlie Sykes says he's a conservative,

1844
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: So why is it that the conservative agrees with the

1845
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Democrat on basically everything? And then when I pointed that out,

1846
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: he got very hissy about it. But I'm just stating

1847
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 1: the obvious. You know, he might as well be Nancy

1848
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: Pelosi's communications director. I mean, I think Charlie Sykes should

1849
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: apply for that job. I think he'd do a good

1850
01:46:56,160 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 1: job as a spokesperson for a Democrat. And I have

1851
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: a feeling that a lot of people that write for

1852
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 1: him at the website that we don't have to give

1853
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: another plug to are also in that capacity. So I'm

1854
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: fine with people exchanging ideas with me all the time.

1855
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 1: I just there's no need for I'm always polite to

1856
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,839
Speaker 1: people until otherwise. Guy doesn't need to be a condescending

1857
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 1: jerk because he's in no position to condescend. That's what

1858
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 1: That's what I think he doesn't understand. And that's same

1859
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: with Max Boot, same with these people who are making

1860
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: just jackasses of themselves and are not nearly as clever

1861
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 1: or knowledgeable as they think they are, and they're really

1862
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work for Trump by acting in

1863
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: this way by being so self indulgent and childish. Here

1864
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: we go, Keith, he writes, shields high, Bro, and he

1865
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: sent me Nancy Pelosi photoshops with a dunce hat on.

1866
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you, I appreciate you sending that along. Buck.

1867
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: This is Ryan. I think you know banning DDT did

1868
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: more harm than good. Perhaps Dad disagrees. He thinks DDT

1869
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,919
Speaker 1: was used excessively and persist in the biosphere. Short term benefits,

1870
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,759
Speaker 1: long term costs. There's a lesson here, though. The correct

1871
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 1: move would have been to improve pesticides and regular DDT's use.

1872
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: But of course the Greenies dropped the band hammer and

1873
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: poof malaria. Ryan, I did talk about dd on the

1874
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,600
Speaker 1: show a long time ago, so I don't know if

1875
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,759
Speaker 1: you're maybe a couple of years behind on the podcast

1876
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 1: or maybe six months behind. But it is an interesting topic,

1877
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 1: so thank you for bringing it up. And yeah, the

1878
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: downside of DDT was greatly exaggerated by the environmentalists, and

1879
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people died from malaria because of it,

1880
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 1: so there's that. Yeah, these these decisions they make, these

1881
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: bad decisions that the lefty environmental types make, are not

1882
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 1: without consequence. For the rest of us worth keeping in mind. Tomorrow,

1883
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: we got Friday coming up, so maybe we'll be able

1884
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of phone action for those

1885
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: of you who want to call in. I think that's

1886
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: always fun. When we can do it, we can get

1887
01:48:56,120 --> 01:49:00,040
Speaker 1: to it. Until then, I've got to go drinks some

1888
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,759
Speaker 1: hot tea because I am sick once again, although hopefully

1889
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: not that sick, and I will rally for tomorrow's show,

1890
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:10,520
Speaker 1: so until next time, Team She'll tie