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Speaker 1: So again, thank you guys so much for being instrumental

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Speaker 1: certain level of attention on what happens when you deal

427
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: with the right rappers. Right, NBA Young Boy makes a

428
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: lot of money for not only his label, but for YouTube,

429
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: for Spotify, Apple, all these people. He generates. The kids

430
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: really listening to this dude, so he generates clicks, not

431
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: only like I say, it's a lot of still another

432
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: money going on. So when you hear him say they

433
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: you know young Boy is worth this much to the label. Man,

434
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: it's still back channels of shit going on. People that's

435
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: eating off young Boy, youtubes that ain't got nothing to

436
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: do with it. Pages this eating or pages that's getting

437
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: traction on Instagram that ain't got nothing to do with him,

438
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: but that helps their platform. So you never know what

439
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: an interest line in regards to this. Let's see if

440
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: he got another update about young Boy. Young Boy gets

441
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: a bond. He's gonna get out about fifteen minutes ago

442
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: at three fifty well years. The other time, Judge Shelley

443
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: Think of the Middle District of Louisiana granted NBA Young

444
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: Boy a bond for the duration of his trial. There

445
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: are certain conditions. He's going to be restricted to a

446
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: residence in Utah. He's gonna have ankle monitoring on. He

447
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: cannot leave that residence for any purpose. Nobody can stay

448
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: at that residence with him except for his family. There

449
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: are limits on visitors. Only three visitors may be allowed

450
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: at a time. Obviously, there are all and all visitors

451
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: must be approved either by the judge or pre trial.

452
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: There's obviously a series of other restrictions like no guns,

453
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: no drugs, got to subject yourself to drug testing. One

454
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 1: of the key issues that the judge looked at in

455
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: granting this bond was that the first time she had

456
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: looked at at the government presented evidence that a LAPD

457
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: report that this guy was running from cops to an

458
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: eighty ninety miles per hour. In fact, the real testimony

459
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: came out the cop who apprehended him he was doing

460
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: forty five miles an hour. The judge looked at that

461
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: other factors, NBA, young boy gets a bond. He's going

462
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: to be at his house in Utah in a matter

463
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: of days, all right, So after that, didn't this took place?

464
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: A young boy update, It's looking like he might not

465
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: get out after all. There is a second criminal case

466
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: that has been opened up against him in the state

467
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: of California. The US Attorney's Office in the state of

468
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: California has put a hold on his release from detention

469
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: by the New Orleans court. Okay, so what's going on here.

470
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: He was charged for the possession of a firearm at

471
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: the music video shoot in New Orleans. He got arrested

472
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: for that in California. When he got arrested in California,

473
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: they found in his may back truck a handgun. So

474
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: he got charged in New Orleans. Today, he got a

475
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: bond on the New Orleans case. However, he's got a

476
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: second case in California for that other gun charge. Now

477
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: that California case is still open, and the California US

478
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: Attorney's office has asked that a hold be placed on

479
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: his detention. But we'll have to happen is his lawyers

480
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: will not have to go to California and file a

481
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: motion for the California judge to release him. Stay tuned again,

482
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: So a lot going on again. You see what happened.

483
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: He was getting out, they put a hold on them. Um,

484
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: the push thing is a little bit more um complex.

485
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: We'll get into that and some other things after this break.

486
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: We'll be back, all right, So we'll get into the

487
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: Poushic situation. Um, for those of you don't know, poushicst

488
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: was in a legal situation in Miami and UH consequently

489
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: got charged with the Hobbs Act. So there's two separate

490
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: situations going on down in Florida where they are trying

491
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: to pin certain things on Poushhics been room with their

492
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: face life and things like that. We've heard rappers like

493
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: Jack Boy and Big thirty come out and say he's

494
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: not gonna get life. Florida kind of does that. They

495
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: kind of play with that um with that life sentence

496
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: thing to try to make you probably cop out. You know.

497
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: It's a lot of games and a lot of education.

498
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: One of the weirdest relationship that I see nowadays, right,

499
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: it's the relationship between the streets and the people in

500
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: the streets with the information that they should have based

501
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: on the career path that they chose. There's so many

502
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: people in the streets that don't know anything about the

503
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: court system, right. And this is not about schisty, this

504
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: is just how my mind works. I got to thinking

505
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: about Wow, just think about how many people don't know

506
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: the rules in regards to what they're up against, and

507
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: every day they standing to break those rules and be

508
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: in a circumstance where understanding the boundaries and understanding the

509
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: language that's being used in the courtroom could be could

510
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: be the difference between you getting twenty years and two years.

511
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: So again, one of the most strange relationships. It's it's

512
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: almost like there's people in the street right now with

513
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: full file hundred thousand dollars that don't know what amendment is.

514
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: They don't know how to go down in file emotion,

515
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: They don't know the tricks in the trade of what

516
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: happens in the courtroom between the lawyer and the DA,

517
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: or the lawyer and the judge, the relationships with the

518
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: DA and the lawyer, the DA and the judge. Like,

519
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: they don't have any insight on those things. Yet they've

520
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: ran up an extreme bag in the streets. Again, the

521
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: streets is one of the most reckless businesses man, because

522
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: not not because of what you're doing in the streets,

523
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: because you don't have any control as to who else

524
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: is out there doing things right. One of the one

525
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: of the reasons I got out the street was, man,

526
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: it ain't about them tapping my phone, It's about them

527
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: tapping your phone. And then I thought about like a

528
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: lot of these street dudes I know, and a lot

529
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: of dudes I rubbed elbows within the street. I knew they,

530
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, respectfully, you know, they thought they was getting

531
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: more money than me, and they kind of thought they

532
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: didn't understand which one I'm working. You know, they think

533
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: what they think this little shit I'm over here doing

534
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: with them. The only thing I'm working, but they didn't understand.

535
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Bro I got listen, I pull up on some people.

536
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: This is verifiable information. I can pull up allegedly on

537
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: somebody and get ahead for million dollars brought anywhere in

538
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: my town. If you got what it is, didn't need

539
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: to be had. So people were thinking that that was

540
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: my only But I was doing four or five different

541
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: other things. You know, they got the ass which one

542
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: you're working because they don't know. But I knew then

543
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: that niggas had more money than me, but they didn't

544
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: have more game than me. First thing they would do

545
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: when they thought they were getting a little warm, when

546
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: they thought the police were kind of getting on them,

547
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: they had changed their phone number. I instantly said that

548
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: were dumb, or they got a flip phone. Indeed, the

549
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: flip phone thing still got a little value to it

550
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: because and I almost think they didn't got onto the

551
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: flip phones. I you ain't got one them old phones

552
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: or one of them satellite phone. If you got a

553
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: flip phone, all the new flip phones, you can go

554
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: buying family dollar and I'll let I'm thinking they don't

555
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: figured out and some kind of way got a chip

556
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: in there, just like these other phones. Now they don't

557
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: got the screen, and I'll let them make you think

558
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: that you duck in something, but I think it. I

559
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: think it still may have that. Nonetheless, these dudes would

560
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: change their number and think they was ducking the federal government,

561
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: and I would know that it's counterproductive. The first thing

562
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: I would say was Okay, well you change your number.

563
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: But then the second thing you did was called everybody

564
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: to head your number and told them your new number.

565
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: So all they gotta do is wait because those people

566
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: that had your old number would get your new number.

567
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: So they tapped the phones of the people that's calling you.

568
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: So every time you change your number, they just wait

569
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: to the dude get your other number and call you.

570
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: They got him tapped. This is what I was thinking.

571
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I never said nothing, though my uncle always taught me,

572
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: don't never put the game out against yourself. That's why

573
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: the game I give is the low level game. I'm

574
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: flooded with information, so certain things I can't even talk about.

575
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: I can't put played me against me is or be

576
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: stupid to do that, right. I'm not putting everything I

577
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: know out, but I'm giving game out because I gotta

578
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: be disruptive in the marketplace. You know, some people, I

579
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: think these industry dudes are so They're so feminine, these

580
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: industry guys, a lot of them, And I don't speak

581
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: a hundred percent on anything, but a lot of these

582
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: industry dude so feminine. They see me to speak on

583
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: the speak about them on my podcast, not this them,

584
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: speak about them and just kind of critique the game, right,

585
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: and they get in their feelings. You mad because I'm hustling.

586
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I understand the marketplace. If I just come out here

587
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: and talk about what y'all talking about, I won't be

588
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: disruptive enough to get nothing going on. I gotta be

589
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: unique in how I approached this thing to GNA my audience.

590
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: Now I can take a different way and go to

591
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: this and dudes, and I ain't doing that. I'm coming

592
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: out giving game out, meaning I gotta have a certain

593
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: level of understanding. I'm talking about all kinds of stuff.

594
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with lawyers and judges, may us. Then I'm

595
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: also dealing with the get old people getting shot by

596
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: the atl people getting killed by the police. Then I'm

597
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: in the middle dealing with rappers, entertainers, writers, entrepreneurs. This

598
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: is what I do. But I gotta be disruptive. I

599
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: can't just come out of Hey, thank you for watching

600
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: this up there podcast. Hey, Little Dirt dropped the great

601
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: album this week on too Little Baby. Little Baby dropped

602
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: the album a little. I gotta go in and examine. Hey,

603
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: look at the mindset of Dirt. You gotta produce an

604
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: album with all little jacket soon at war. But see,

605
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: only people like me can speak like that. If you

606
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: understand it from that perspective. My job now is to

607
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: monetize my perspective. That's my obstacle in my goal monetize

608
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: my perspective. It's important that people know I'm not disrespectful

609
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to you. If I ain't called you

610
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: out your name, I'm clear with disrespect. So I don't

611
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: call rappers or creators these I'm gonna hear critique in

612
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: the game. I need to be disruptive in my content.

613
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: I don't have to explain that, but I thought i'd

614
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: take some time out to explain it simply because I

615
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: understand how things can be viewed and I'm seeing you guys.

616
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Some of you guys be sensive enough to feel played

617
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: by me breaking the game down. If I'm wrong, come

618
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: had a conversation and clear it up. But I'm going

619
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: with when I'm going when I got thousands of people

620
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: around with me, and it's growing every day. He's growing

621
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: every single day. And for that, I think everybody is

622
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: tuned in. Everybody is tapped in, you know. Um. But

623
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: we'll get to the pooshisty. Here's one of the first

624
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: announcements that our good friend Lawyers for Worker Lawyers for

625
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Workers on Instagram put out again to go to guys

626
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: another poosh shist. The update the alleged victim in this

627
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: case the government has disclosed to pooshis these lawyers that

628
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: that alleged victim is currently under indictment for federal bank

629
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: fraud and a conspiracy involving various forms of financial fraud.

630
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be interesting. Defense lawyers gonna take that

631
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: and go to town and they're gonna be like, you know,

632
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: if this guy testifies against Pooh, They're gonna be like, wait,

633
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: aren't you currently defendant in a federal bank fraud indictment?

634
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: And you know, is the government offering you anything in

635
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: terms of a plea bargain or some sort of reduction

636
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: of the charges in exchange for your testimony, so on

637
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: and so forth. The other thing, we already knew this

638
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: guy was a drug dealer. According to the government. This

639
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: guy was there to sell drugs and he gets robbed

640
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: while he was selling drugs. Now we know he's also

641
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: under indictment for federal bank fraud. Defense lawyer is going

642
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: to have a field day with that. A lot to

643
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: go with Pooshist. But again, the key takeaway in this case,

644
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: the guy's going to trial facing a mac sentence of

645
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: over twenty years. That trial is set to go forward

646
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: next year. You got another poss as you see. So basically,

647
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: the guy that supposedly allegedly got into altercation with Pousheiste

648
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: in which he ended up shot has now been indicted

649
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: by the fee is usually that kind of movious to

650
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: it's to get you to testify on on the guy, right,

651
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: because we're gonna try to pin you down and make

652
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: you add credence and strengthen up what it is that

653
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: we have. On the other side, we see it with um,

654
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: we see it with with with NBA young born Frado.

655
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I think Fredo, I think they situation kind of pivots

656
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: out of each other. In regards to the police activity,

657
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: you know the police investigation. You know, if me and

658
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: you got beef and they investigate me and we're shooting

659
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: at you, they're gonna see us push up on you

660
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: if if it's some activity going on, if something's happening,

661
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna see that happen or get word or when

662
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: somebody's telling me, you know, we stepped on that little

663
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: nigga yesterday. Something's gonna come through to alert them that

664
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: there's an issue with the other side, didn't. They kind

665
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: of start watching the other side because they want to

666
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: know who is this you into it with, and how

667
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: deep is it and where they kill you so we

668
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: can't charge you and things like that. You know. Um

669
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: as you see what Takashi case, how they try to

670
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: move in when they act like he was in danger.

671
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So um sometimes who you

672
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: went too it with or if there's bee finished, that's

673
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: why they say. See you remember hearing people say beef

674
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: ain't good for business. It ain't just because the police

675
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: would be called and people telling it's for that kind

676
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: of thing too. Yo. If me and you into it

677
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: and they start investigating you from a federal level and

678
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: were in the same circumference, and we really there's gun

679
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: fights going on, people get getting sut you know when

680
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: they run into each other, Dudes getting fired on, and

681
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: robberies and little chains being to this record, is it

682
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Nan They on me? Now they on me, you know,

683
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: So that's what they usually do in this thing. Now,

684
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: um so you know, with him being on the other

685
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: side of push the case, now they investigating him, what's

686
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: up with his due? And then Boom, Now we got

687
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: him on some fraud you know type thing, and of

688
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: course if he testify, they're gonna they're gonna act away

689
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: about it. But then after that this came out, Boom

690
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: goes to Dynamite Pooshicete in forming the court he will

691
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: also change his plea from not guilty too guilty Pooshiety

692
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: will take a plea Pooshiety will serve federal time. Here's

693
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: the thing, he's pleading guilty to the Hobs Act. Under

694
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: the federal sentence and guidelines. He's gonna score out and

695
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna do several years, could be over five years.

696
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Boom goes to Dynamite poosh ice Te. So according to reports,

697
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: he's now gonna go ahead and get low and gold.

698
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: When I've seen his co defendant do that. I kind

699
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: of knew that was coming, you know, because if you're

700
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: co defendant do that, it's like, okay, now what position

701
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: do that leave me? How I'm fighting the case due

702
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: with me is gild So I would think they probably

703
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: had a conversation brother lawyers saying we're going each way

704
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: with it, and they just filed here's before. So he

705
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: came out before he is, did you know? I mean,

706
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: So that's just some of the stuff happening will represent.

707
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, NBA, a young boy got a bond,

708
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: then California put that on them, so they're gonna have

709
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: to go out to calid And and plead their case

710
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: to the judge to try to see if he can

711
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: get out on the bond, then move to Utah work

712
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: from them again. He makes a lot of money for

713
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people. So we'll be in tune and

714
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: be watching to see what's going on. Hey, let me

715
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: speak on this too right quick, because it's starting to

716
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: ball from me. Um. And it ain't bothered me because

717
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: people hustling. Hustling is a beautiful thing. I think it's

718
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: a part of being a man. Right. What I don't appreciate.

719
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Is everybody trying to bite my style and not say

720
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: anything about where the inspiration comes from. Creators are big

721
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: on credit and not take it offensive. When I see

722
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: people do and be inspired by what I'm doing, that's

723
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: indirect proximity of me. Now, people I'm expiring, I don't

724
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know nothing about that. And if

725
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: I have inspired you, and you're a true creator, you

726
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: will probably said, like you know, like me, I get

727
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: inspired by people and I get those kudos on a

728
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: daily basis. But I know firsthand personally that I've been

729
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of people is starting the podcast.

730
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: People that know me personally right has now can feel

731
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: it and want to do this thing and be a

732
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: part of the creative creative right, And I'm with you,

733
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: and I can appreciate that. But again, you cannot. First

734
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: of all, I'm not worried about nobody copy of me. Respectfully,

735
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: I don't want to be you and you can't be me, right,

736
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: So these things are just what it is, and it

737
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: ain't no you know, I'm not putting no kind of

738
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: kool aid on that. You know, I ain't going soft

739
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: about it, and I ain't trying to be nice about it.

740
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there for what it's worth.

741
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: But again, at some point, Man, for you to excel

742
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: in this game, you gotta swallow your pride. Bro every

743
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: time you hit me link up or say something about

744
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: the people that helped me or inspire me. I'm gonna

745
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: always say that forever and ever. You know what I'm saying.

746
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: And also it made me think about, like all the

747
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: hard work I put into this, I must be making

748
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: this thing look easy. You know, this thing must look easy.

749
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, people must be looking at this thing saying,

750
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Brod doing it, he killing it, he killing that. I

751
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: think I could do that too. They don't know the

752
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: years of information that I've been smothered in. They don't

753
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: know what it's like for me to You gotta think

754
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: they all gotta go get with somebody. Y'all still ain't

755
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: pinched your hat on that. Yeah, yeah, y'all still ain't

756
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: swallow dead peel. I do this by myself. When I

757
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: say by myself, I mean in front of these cameras,

758
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: just me and these topics and no notes. It's a

759
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: different type of thing happening. And that's why it's offensive

760
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: to me, because you go get with six people, three people,

761
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: two people, you know, and I know what it's like

762
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: to do it with them, shout out Jade, and they should.

763
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: We did it a long time like that, you know,

764
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: by ten episode I did it like that. I know

765
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: what that's like. That's a beautiful thing. Bouncing ideas off

766
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: people and going up with it like that. That's that's beautiful.

767
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: But what I'm doing is just a little bit different.

768
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: It's different to do it this way. Take a lot

769
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: out of you to do it this way, you know

770
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: what I mean. Get off all that just thinking about

771
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: the pouschite this stuff, and you know, wind up you're

772
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: meddling the honeycomb braising and the and the um fraid

773
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: o'bang and and and and and and um ralo free rolo.

774
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: He wanted them ones too, like damn. You know, when

775
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: I got to think about them, I was like, man,

776
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: just think what it probably feel like. Some people that

777
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: that that you know, got over to a place, found

778
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: a group of people, enslaved, those people had him doing

779
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: free labor, and then those people figured out some kind

780
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: of way or not. Because we because we're not out there,

781
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: we're not out the woods, but we're not what we

782
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: was right, and and and I got to think, and

783
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I mean that's one thing. But then

784
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: I dug a little deep and said, it's one thing

785
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: to do something, but it's another the thing for it

786
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: to be working. You mean it to me, I actually

787
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: got all these people picking cotton, which is the number

788
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: one resource at that time, They picking cotton for free,

789
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: and we building multi million dollars organizations. Is working? Is working?

790
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden some laws change or something

791
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: they don't, they messed up the whole. Just think if

792
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: you're trapped working, just thinking that little style working you're

793
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: doing on their beat that record. Just think that little

794
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: move you're doing your old lady, that's working. All of

795
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: a sudden you're going there with that move and that's

796
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: no longer that ain't. You gotta figure something else out,

797
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Then then that's what made

798
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: me start thinking, Okay, so this where an unfair and

799
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: the masking of the intentions come from right, because whatever

800
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: the law says me and I can't do it out right, Yeah,

801
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: that's all the law mean. The law don't mean you

802
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: can't do something. You can't. It's a it's a way

803
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do it right. That mean I can't just

804
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: do it out right. So, yeah, we can't be whooping

805
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: him out of hen making them do this, or we

806
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: didn't put a feeling on them, and the only job

807
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: you can get is a low paying job doing this

808
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: kind of work. Or we can offer jobs to people

809
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: in jail and masking under some and pay them ten

810
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: cents an hour two cents an hour. Right, So the

811
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: circumstances around the changes, but the result is the result.

812
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: You damn their free labor. Yeah, they went from free

813
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: labor to damn their free labor because then folks working

814
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: in them jails, that's free labor, fam and then somebody

815
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: that they're working for an unlivable wage. It's free label

816
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: almost in my opinion. Right, it ain't free label in

817
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: the in the terms of the actual definition of the word,

818
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: but in the grand scheme of things, what you're getting

819
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: out of these people you're paying this little amount of

820
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: money to what you're getting out in terms of business,

821
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: in term of business equity and things that make that

822
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: business go and actually be profitable. What you're getting off

823
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: the backs of the people you pay the less money to.

824
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: It's almost the same concept, but it's a little tweaked,

825
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: and I think if we go in inflation somewhere, that

826
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: may be close to nothing that they're given. But again,

827
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: it's a thing when you see it working, when you're

828
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: seeing man, they let me tide folks up. Man, I

829
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: got one or two of them, I let in the house.

830
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I got a couple of wives. I hit them in,

831
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: send them back out there like and then they're working

832
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: for free. We don't teach them nothing, we don't let

833
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: them but everywhere we'll throw some trash food out there

834
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: and then look up twenty years later, we want to

835
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: eat that fool that was. That's the good fool we've

836
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: been throwing away. Now it's what we've done with it

837
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: that made it the good fool. Yeah, didn't nobody know

838
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: limits get make lemonade? Yeah they didn't nobody no orange,

839
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: just get make orange juice. They thought you had the

840
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: peel and eat. Somebody had to figure out that, you

841
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So for us, whatever you hand us,

842
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna double it up. Whatever

843
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: you hand us, we're gonna make resourceful for us, you know.

844
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: And that's why I make this inter this stuff. It's

845
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: very powerful. You see, you see the information getting around

846
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: and this in the same breath. This is why I

847
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: do applaud people that do that's doing real work in

848
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: the online feel like you know, the tone of the

849
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: clothes or whoever they're selling courses if they're effective. I

850
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: don't know any of these to be effective, but I

851
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: know some of their brands to be what it is

852
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: like band Man, Cavo, you know, Omni in the hell Cat.

853
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Some of these guys that's being resourceful to the ghetto.

854
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: This is also on the same breath as you hit

855
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: me talk about how they got to come down in

856
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: the ghetto because some people ain't got the bandwidth to

857
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: go and read a book or sign up or this

858
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: today you got to come holight something aboudy that they

859
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: come into Holiat and bridge the gap. It's a simple

860
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: thing to do. But them guys is so important in

861
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: this infrastructure that we currently have, simply because look at

862
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: what the Internet done with the text information about the

863
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: g wagons. Look at what the Internet done with the

864
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: information about the PPP. Look at what like the wh

865
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: when we go to talking to each other. Look how

866
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: many soul people are fixing credit and earn your lesure

867
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: and this and there. Look how many people that's figuring

868
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: a little niches out? And hey man, I'm telling y'all,

869
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna hip you get some money. You got gambling folks.

870
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: It's over here hipping folks. The information gonna go to spread,

871
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: The information gonna go to spread. And so once we

872
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: get our hands on some information, we know what to

873
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: do with it. Not necessarily we know what to do

874
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: with it, but we're gonna do what it is we're

875
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: told to do with it, whether that's good or bad

876
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: or indifferent. The problem is in the hood, we're taught

877
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: to do the bad, illegal things. Nobody's coming to the ghetto.

878
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: As I'm telling earn your leisure, as I'm telling Tony

879
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: to closure, as I'm telling Omni in the hell Cad

880
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: bad Man Carevo where I'm from, Ain't nobody coming in

881
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: the ghetto saying this is what you do to your credit,

882
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: This is how you go about doing business credit, This

883
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: is what you need to do a dollar for dollar taxation,

884
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: this is how you Nobody's doing that. And that's in

885
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: every ghetto. It's people that I'm talking about that I'm

886
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: talking to right, y'all hit a lot of internet guys

887
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and doing a great job. But these dudes that got

888
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: money stealing the ghetto. It's people that's loss in in

889
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: the ghetto that don't got time to and they don't

890
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: got time to sign up for your only fans homing.

891
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: And we're not saying run yourself dry. Some of that

892
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: basic information get with some of us, and let's let's

893
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: get that out. Shout out to de strep. His old

894
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: lady has a a credit thing going on. You know,

895
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: I see people selling them call shit. You know, eight

896
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: ninety nine a month to fix your credit. Here's a

897
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: woman that got the information and said, eighty dollars a

898
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: month or not even eight thousan a month, eighty dollars

899
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: one time, I'm gonna fix your credit or help you

900
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: with your credit, or restructure the situation. This is what

901
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean about the information. Once we get the information

902
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: and the right people got the information, you're gonna see

903
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: some results. You're gonna see shit start to open up

904
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: when the right people got the information. But it's about

905
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: coming down in the ghetto, getting the fold. Understand, Hey,

906
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: when you get that sixteen hundred at the beginning, of

907
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: now baby girl, hey baby girl with the eight kids.

908
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: When you get that ten thousand at the beginning of

909
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: the year, this is what you need to do. Write

910
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: it down. I got that from Its Up There podcast.

911
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: He was sitting down with such a such entrepreneur, the mogul,

912
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: the Internet mogul, and serial he was sitting down. He

913
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: gave some real game. He said, get your pin and

914
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: paid out, watch this show, and write this shit down.

915
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: And that's how we feed people. You give a man

916
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: officia e for a day, you teach them how to

917
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: fici your e for the rest of his life. All right,

918
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: let's talk about Young Thug. So for those of you

919
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: that may not know, Young Thug dropped his album Punk Um, featuring,

920
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: of course a couple of his homeboard some of the

921
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: biggest artists in the game UM. The direction of punk

922
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: was a different direction than the casual boombap trap person

923
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: would think. I can appreciate that because I understand growth,

924
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: I understand markets, I understand h brand building. Right, So,

925
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: in my opinion is, when you got the machine behind you,

926
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: it's always important to UH plan a seed and as

927
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: many different UM genres, as many different people as you can,

928
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: so that once that machine is gone, you hope to

929
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: find yourself somewhere along the lines of what a dog

930
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: g is? Right, So I mean again, the game is

931
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: always placed in front of us. But um, he dropped

932
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: this album. I listened to it. I like it. Um again,

933
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: different approach on the album. I think young thugs playing

934
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: the game has changed too, you know. Um we see

935
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: academics say that he's not a big dog or whatever

936
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: the case may be in regards to not selling over

937
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: one hundred k. I'm not sure who makes that distinction. Um,

938
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: I won't say that to be true or false, right,

939
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: I would say that I don't think a one week

940
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: or sales indicates someone's statue in a game. It's so complex,

941
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: right because what if somebody that I influenced or had

942
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: direct responsibility for its selling four hundred thous you know,

943
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: Or what if I said at ninety, but I do

944
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: a two to make twenty million? Like, I just don't

945
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: think it's that cut and dry to say who's a

946
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: good artist, who's a big dog. I think big dog

947
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: status ain't just money like in the street. You know,

948
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: just because you got money, you're not a big dog.

949
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: You know, you don't call no shots nowhere. I don't

950
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: nobody respect your pimping. They don't respect your gaming. You

951
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: don't have no game, you just got money. And to me,

952
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: that's what academics is doing with these records. Says, I

953
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: think Thug's a big dog in the game. I think

954
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: Meek Mills a big dog in the game. Again, my

955
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: analogis says that just in the street, just because you

956
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: got money don't make you. Don't make you a big dog. Okay,

957
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: So I'll tell academics to use the same thing you

958
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: used on BT. You're saying that BT ain't a big dog,

959
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: but they got more cloud or more history, and more

960
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: culture equity than anyone you may they may not, in

961
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: your opinion, have as much impact. But what makes you

962
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: a big doll not just because you got the culture equity.

963
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a slewer thing. So you gotta have more

964
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: than just one week worth sales to make you a

965
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: big dog in this game. You gotta have more than

966
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: one week worse sales to make you a big dog

967
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: in this game. So I'm gonna have to give some

968
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: pushback on that. To me again, looking at Thug and

969
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: what he sits in this game, says to me one

970
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: hundred times out of one hundred that he's a big dog.

971
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: What he's done for the culture, what he's done in fashion,

972
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: what he's done culturally for other rappers, the style, the

973
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: whole thing. He took the Wayne and spun off of

974
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: that with his own vibration, right and then start creating

975
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: people in Another thing thug don't get enough credit for

976
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: is he embraced his damn near what what what could

977
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: be viewed from a casual fan, it's his clones as

978
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: people that was direct competition to him he embraced. I mean,

979
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: you know how hard that is as being a rapper

980
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: getting money on top and here or dude it. But

981
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: he had to practice what he preached because if you remember,

982
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: that's what he was looking for from Wayne. So when

983
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: you see a dude carry out they expectations, I think

984
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: that's you need to speak about that even more because

985
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: dude embrace people that a label could have signed and

986
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: made his direct competition them. Dudes had his style, his look,

987
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: his everything, but he you know where, he wrapped his

988
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: arm around him. This my people, y'all embrace him, embrace him.

989
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: And then boys went off to get you know, they

990
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: went off to turn up and do their thing. You

991
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But um, it's just no media

992
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: person said anything for the South, for said anything for

993
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: Thug or Meat. And I wanted to present that pushback

994
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: on that point that was made again one thing ain't

995
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: never made nothing. The recipe yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And

996
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: it's a recipe to be a big dog. It ain't

997
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: no one thing to make you no big dog. So

998
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: you can't come in me saying, yo, this week of

999
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: sales made this person a big dog, Like, let's relax

1000
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: on that and let's embrace the game as it is changing.

1001
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: And no big dog looked like thug look to me

1002
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: because he got Gunner, he got that whole y sales

1003
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: situation he mentioned With Travis the drummer duty, he's on

1004
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: a different level. He Jimmy Kimball, He's in his impact

1005
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: wherever he go, gonna fill it up people coming, you

1006
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so, um, I just want

1007
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: to kind of push back on that. And the same

1008
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: with me Meek's tour doing good. Meek is selling pretty good,

1009
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Like I think it takes more, bro, It take more

1010
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: than just one thing to make you a big dog.

1011
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: And also with speaking on the Poush schistein NBA, young boy,

1012
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: just the legal things with the warm rappers from from

1013
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: law enforcement. You see when they got with me, See

1014
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: they see this is the problem when you're messing with

1015
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: money when you missed with me. Now I got some

1016
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: people on you that I don't forgave you and let

1017
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: it go, and they still being tedious and missing with you,

1018
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: fileing shitt and you got them billionaires on you over there.

1019
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: We din't named it something. Now all the money we're

1020
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: funneling it through, we slicked writing it all. So now

1021
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: we don't set up something to be consolate on. Y'all

1022
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: ads about what y'all be doing, because it's not because

1023
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: you missed with Little Ray Ray out the projects. It's

1024
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: because y'all go to missing with the rappers from a

1025
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: different level, and it'd be obvious sometime and then you

1026
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: gotta pay for what you do to everybody when a

1027
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: certain level of I asked or getting on things. You know.

1028
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: But back to back to thug Man. Thug again, in

1029
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: my opinion, is a big dog um. He appeared on

1030
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club and said some things in regards to Drake

1031
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: and Kanye. I want to kind of build on that.

1032
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Let's listen to what he's said. I want to I

1033
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: bought the house and it has snow. You had snow inside. Yeah,

1034
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: it was so fire. I'm like, hey, I want to

1035
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: do like all white vibes every single day for the

1036
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: rest of this album. That's that. That's literally what it was. Well,

1037
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: it actually had nothing to do with him with like,

1038
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: as I was like looking at the black pictures on

1039
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: the internet, I'm like, oh, fuck it, damn he looked

1040
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: like this. But like I was just like I was

1041
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: just thinking, just You're like, well, why do you want

1042
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: to be on Done So Bad? I saw you say

1043
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: that you are? You called him so if I don't

1044
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: get on this album, it's gonna be a broke It

1045
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: ain't now I want to be on it so bad.

1046
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: It's just like, bro, we got a hundred songs putting

1047
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: the motherfucking songs out a nigga like you are billionaire

1048
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: like you if you know, I'm wondering, I'm wondering this

1049
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: the game getting to a place what they're kind of

1050
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: getting upset with Kanye with this breaking some of the

1051
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: hottest rappers in getting them to write and do stuff

1052
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: for you and not putting it out. You know, Like

1053
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: I wonder if they starting to feel like there's a

1054
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: motive behind man, or there's motivation behind that, you know, um,

1055
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: because there there's people that say, like, you know, you know,

1056
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: this game is very slimming, you know, and I'm not

1057
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: sure what happens at the top, you know, but I

1058
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: do know this game is dog eat dog. And sometimes, um,

1059
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: it sounds like the rappers are starting to get a

1060
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: bit frustrated with the hoarding of their styles or whatever's

1061
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: happening with some of these bigger acts. That's not that's

1062
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: collaborating with these people, but holding you know, because you

1063
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: gotta think some of these people like, man, this this

1064
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: is it. Yes, I finally got want with Big Dog.

1065
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna put it out and it never come out.

1066
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: It's like, why do you stop me? Then I wonder, oh, man,

1067
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't understand how to transition when he was

1068
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: doing that Melanie, and he wanted me to come in

1069
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: and say, oh, that's how thug transitioning out of that, okay,

1070
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: And so he took that from me. Or you know,

1071
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: it's it's man, I'm telling man, it's because it's technique

1072
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: in this game. Everybody talk about telling a lot of

1073
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: his technique. You don't hear that nowhere else. They don't

1074
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: understand it that way. But I'm telling you a lot

1075
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 1: of his technique how to do some of these things,

1076
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 1: ain't it's the problem. You hear Baby in his voice

1077
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: sound like that. You hear Tory Lays and his voice

1078
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: doing that. You couldn't imagine how that sound without that effect.

1079
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: And how comfortable he gotta be with sounding trash until

1080
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: they put the effect on there. That's a different manset.

1081
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: You gotta know this is gonna sound bad, because most

1082
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: people that's creative. If you're doing something, I mean, it

1083
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: sounds bad, you stop for some of these techniques. Some

1084
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: of these techniques require for you to be offbeat and

1085
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: sound terrible for it to for it to catch it

1086
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: right and pitch it right. It's just it's it's weird.

1087
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: Let's listen to a little bit more what Thug was saying,

1088
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: where it's like, you don't need none of this shit.

1089
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: We do. Though, So if I was a be, if

1090
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: I was Kanye West or jay Z, if I would

1091
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: just say I was jay Z or can't you I

1092
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: probably I probably would have I would have more features

1093
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: than anybody in the world. You know, if I'm at

1094
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: the point where I can know the song can make

1095
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: it number one, I'm definitely getting on the song. That's

1096
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: what I respect about Drake. Yeah, you all got that

1097
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: number one song right now, And he ain't genuinely do it.

1098
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: People can think people think like, oh, he do it

1099
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: for Clouder, he do it for the East song and

1100
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna not need no motherfucker cloud right, that's mister Cloud

1101
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: shoutpt though it feels like a Doug song. You know,

1102
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: you gotta know what it feels like. You gotta know

1103
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: what it feels like. You gotta know what it feels

1104
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: like to be Drake, bro. And for people that's million

1105
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: dollars niggas still understanding, like because all some people like

1106
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: it needs credit real creators. They just want some credit

1107
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: for what they're doing. Brocause I'm gonna be all right,

1108
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: I can do it like this, but I make a

1109
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: conscious effort to touch y'all, to touch y'all, and a

1110
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: little bit of flame might get or the little bit

1111
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: of gas I get in my tank versus the gas

1112
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: you get. It's an overwhelming difference. We don't know how

1113
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: to play out in the long role, but just dealing

1114
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: with the specifics are right now, Drake giving you a

1115
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: way bigger push than you can give him for anybody.

1116
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: But did that you can wrap your mind around still

1117
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: being that conscious to be able to tag people in

1118
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: the game. Tag people in the game, man, because I'm

1119
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: telling you they holding them money. And the information came

1120
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: the studio like fresh who like, man, you shit, bro,

1121
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: We're just and Steve talking shit and just like Joan

1122
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: and listening the meats the beat come on and Pluto

1123
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: just slap. Now, let's do some sense and shit. So

1124
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: we're just like free styting to each other. Then it's

1125
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: just like sis, it just came about like that. You

1126
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: knew the song that right then for a song you

1127
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: knew the song right right, knew that song yea yeah,

1128
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: not not worth work. I knew. I knew probably for

1129
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the Jay then. You

1130
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: know Jay used to do that back in the day though,

1131
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: what like just jump on people records like you know

1132
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: when when Hot Boys first came out Juwe Cash Money,

1133
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: he jumped on High you know, Gez Go Crazy remix

1134
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: like he would do the feature thing for artists way

1135
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: back in the day. Right right right, I'm talking about now,

1136
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: yeah right listen, and I want to respond to that.

1137
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: Sharlo man um jay Z did do that. Shout out

1138
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: Jay big big, big general in the game. Right, he

1139
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: touched juven them, but he had to touch them, folks.

1140
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: He was trying to grab the South. See back then

1141
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: it worked different. Everyone wanting in one pot like it

1142
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: is now in far as the head of that, all

1143
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: the consumers is in one pot with the Internet. So

1144
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: the region thing gets disappearing slowly, but shoulder, they're invisible lines.

1145
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: It's really the old heads that's still hauling the no

1146
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: up north and now let off downstair like it's the

1147
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: old older people. Most people now it's invisible. Your favorite

1148
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: artists can be from anywhere. Right. So Jay was doing

1149
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: that number one. His influence was still. He was still

1150
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: the man, but it wasn't. It wasn't what it is now.

1151
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: So he was doing that to touch Texas. He needed Texas.

1152
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: He was doing that because juven Birdman and them was yeah, yeah,

1153
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: motion was going on. They was having real de emotion.

1154
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: So it wasn't necessarily to make their song number one

1155
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: because if I if I think about it, Jay wasn't

1156
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: giving away songs that much. Then he was getting people

1157
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: on his stuff, but I don't know if he was

1158
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 1: giving away records then, right, or I'm jumping on your record.

1159
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: You know a lot of those records were on his albums, right.

1160
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: And I think again, back then, the strategy was different.

1161
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: To get the South you needed to do and it's

1162
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: still kind of like that. NaN's like, Yo, if you

1163
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: want to kind of get the South, you can go

1164
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: get money, bag get a little baby, can get a thug,

1165
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: you can get future, you can get it's certain people.

1166
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: If you want to get the wins you need to

1167
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: get you know, blue Face or Kendrick or something like.

1168
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: If you want to get up north right now, you

1169
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 1: might go get five year old or TJ or you

1170
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's it's stuff happening like that,

1171
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: and it's still like that, but I think the intentions

1172
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: is different. We're talking about from a position of power

1173
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: to be doing that. That's where a difference come in

1174
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: that it's a position of power thing. Jay sits at

1175
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: the at the top of the mountain. Kanye sis at

1176
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain, Drake said, right below them.

1177
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: But he's operating totally different and I don't know if

1178
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: it's the bumps and bruises or half the stuff they

1179
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: went through past him or certain like we I don't know,

1180
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: and hopefully talk to him one day to be able

1181
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: to comb through that. But for Drake to be as

1182
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: close to him as he is, his his behavior is

1183
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: contrary to their and I think it speaks volumes and

1184
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: it may speak to him being being at the top,

1185
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: um because they had to fight to stay up. But

1186
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: Jaden made it harder on them self by doing it

1187
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: that way. You know what I'm saying. Jay kind of

1188
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: made it hard on itself by h not being as available. Right.

1189
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: That mean I got to really carry this ball, you know.

1190
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: Um and so yeah, man, But like I said, thug,

1191
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: thug and and a lot of those people. Man, you

1192
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: gotta give it up to him. Man. And again, hopefully

1193
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: we get a response from academics or somebody out there

1194
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: to explain or to rebuttal my opinion in regards to

1195
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: the big Dog hundred thousand thing. You know, one hand

1196
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: wash the other, both wash the face. Uh, these dudes

1197
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: are superstars and one week of sales I don't think

1198
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: speaks to the ten or fifteen years of results. That

1199
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: we're dealing with respectfully. All right, So let's talk about academics.

1200
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: UM Academics has a podcast. He's been running around getting

1201
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews, shout out the shout out the Academics,

1202
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: working hard on his podcast, doing UM interviews with with

1203
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of different people, and he had one with

1204
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: Van Late And I want to spend some time on

1205
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: Van Late thing because I'm not sure that people that

1206
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: listen to me, or the Trap or the Hood or

1207
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: certain people give him the credit that I think he deserves.

1208
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: When I watched him sit next to DJ Academics, I

1209
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: had a new found respect for his communication ability, his

1210
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: his his ability to articulate. I said, this dude here

1211
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: is a monster. And you know, I you know, I

1212
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: know people just look at conversations as conversations. I view

1213
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: them totally different. So when they was watching, when they

1214
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: was when they was talking, I'm like, this dude is good.

1215
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: This Van Lathan dude is good at his you know,

1216
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: his thing. And you know, if you don't know who

1217
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 1: he is. He worked at TMZ. UM has a podcast

1218
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: on the Ringer right now. I forgot the name of it.

1219
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: A my apologist, you know, because it's important that we

1220
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: all shot each other out. You know what I'm saying,

1221
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: but I'll probably put it on the screen here. Um.

1222
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: But this dude is a very talented media personality, you know,

1223
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 1: and he's he's evolved into um the Charlemagne esque type

1224
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: of lame you know, trauma, rebuilding yourself, um um, healing

1225
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: and things like that. So maybe that's why a lot

1226
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: of people don't see him a lot. But he walked

1227
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: away from Timz I believe. But these dudes had a

1228
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: great conversation and the way he articulated things, specially about

1229
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: the Warm show Iraq I need. I had to give

1230
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: him some flowers. So shout out to Van Lathan. Again.

1231
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a hater, so I always give it up

1232
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: to people that's in this space that's doing really really

1233
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: good creative things. Shout out to him. Now, looking at

1234
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: Academics platform, I see he's running around getting interviews. And

1235
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: the first thing I said was I forgot about Joe

1236
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: Buddon with Joe budden Be on that DJ Academics podcast

1237
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: on Spotify. I thought about it, and for some reason

1238
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: I want to say no, because to bring your voice

1239
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: or if he does it, maybe he's trying to show

1240
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: Spotify that that one episode over there was the biggest

1241
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: episode of academics thing. I'm the big dog. He can

1242
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: really steal some power like that if he do it.

1243
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: But I thought about what he do it, and I

1244
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: think I if I judge Joe off what he's done

1245
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: in the past, unless he's very desperate, I don't see

1246
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: him doing it because he walked away from Spotify, took

1247
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: his podcast out of Spotify. Why would he gonna do

1248
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: an interview that's exclusively on Spotify? And I know as

1249
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: trying to make it happen, he's trying to get Charlemagne

1250
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: on now, he's trying to pull all these strings on

1251
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: there for his first season. If you know, he may

1252
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: want to slow down a bit. You may want to

1253
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: slow down a bit because what were you what you're

1254
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna do in year three? Or you're gonna read you know,

1255
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: reinterview Charlemagne and reinterview Joe or reinterview like you want

1256
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: to spread some of those things out, you know what

1257
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, some of those real influential, inspiring interviews, some

1258
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: of those you know, you may want to you may

1259
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: want to spread those out, you know some But unless

1260
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to hit him across the hill with a

1261
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: rear But that's the first thing I thought, what Joe

1262
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: Budden be on DJ Academics podcast. I told myself, no,

1263
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: you tell me what you think we're gonna now look

1264
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: at a part with him and Van Leathan talking on

1265
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: his podcast again, Um, they got into a lot of

1266
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 1: different things. We're gonna listen to a little bit of

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: a Rory and mall part. I'm examined a little bit

1268
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: of what they're saying. Again, Van did a great job

1269
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: at doing a better job with his part in as well.

1270
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: This game is getting is getting. Yeah, I better catch up.

1271
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 1: This game is doing what it's supposed to do. Let's

1272
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: take a look. They're supposed to be broadcast. As I

1273
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: told you, they were literally just like echo chambers. There

1274
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: were the eye libers for basically you know Quavo, which

1275
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: is Joe Budden, and so we just popped in he's

1276
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: talking about Rory and Mallum. In that situation, Van has

1277
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: came to him like, Yo, you've been redundant in regards

1278
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: to what you've said about them. Uh, it hasn't been

1279
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: a correction, It's been an overcorrection in terms of Rory

1280
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: mall is catching all kind of strays because every let's

1281
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: talk about that. See, that's that's that's, that's what I

1282
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: need to speak about. Academics. Speak to academics about Mall.

1283
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: What is Mall done? Because every time you talk, I

1284
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: hear about Rory. But then when you slander him, I

1285
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: guess you said, well, they come in the same pack.

1286
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: They come in the same you know package, so you

1287
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: get at both of them. Um, but I really want

1288
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: to know, has Mall done something? And what what you know?

1289
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: If if so, what and what keeps you going at

1290
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: Mall that way? Nonetheless? Um. Van Layton also pointed out

1291
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,839
Speaker 1: what he would call hypocrisy in regards to academics handling

1292
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: of meek Meal and his handling of Rory and Mall

1293
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: because he said he's squashed the meek Meal beef because

1294
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: twenty one Savage shout out Savage didn't swatch squash the beef.

1295
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: When a lot of people were calling from that sum

1296
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Joe called, but Van definitely called.

1297
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 1: He said, he called, so you're dealing with that. So

1298
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, I called, so what what's the difference?

1299
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: Then he said something about a green light or he

1300
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: said something about what Rory done, and Meek said a

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01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: green light like he made a bunch of comparisons, like yo,

1302
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: you let that go with this? Why not let this

1303
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: go with that? And uh, act Is continued to explain that,

1304
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: and so that's where we are. Let's continue. And they

1305
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: were getting roasted by me, and because they couldn't either

1306
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: contractually talk by themselves or whatever the reason is, one

1307
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: of them chose to try to make a lightly veiled threat,

1308
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: right and the moment I supposed to a direct threat

1309
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: that came from me Um, well, well even forget the threat,

1310
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: the actual you're talking about the actual, pull it out

1311
01:18:54,600 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: to the credit exactly. Yeah, once that happened, I said, okay,

1312
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: we're done with tweets. Then even if even if Miko

1313
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: was like yo, if I recie acaima slap him, we

1314
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 1: could still talk. Like you didn't see me, you didn't

1315
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: slap me, We could talk, right, you got me, So,

1316
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 1: like I get what you're trying to say, the Greenland,

1317
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: like we could talk. Nothing happened what you're saying. So

1318
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: you're saying, you act on even in any way, you

1319
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 1: act on a certain shit. There's certain places and certain

1320
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: realms that you run into Where can I actually a question? Van?

1321
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: I want to be one hundred percent honest. If I

1322
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: if if you were you had problems with me online

1323
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: and you knew I didn't like you, Yeah, and I

1324
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: ended up showing up to your house on some real weird,

1325
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: suspicious shit doing, trying to do maybe what you might

1326
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: not even know what my real plan is. How would

1327
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: you handle a situation? Well, well, I mean how would

1328
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: I handle it? I mean, there's a Bonelli and four

1329
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: under the bed, so that's probably how I handle it.

1330
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: You clap a niggah. I mean, if you if I

1331
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: feel threatened, I'm not a tough guy, but if I

1332
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: feel threatened, that's why that's why the shotguns there. But

1333
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: if somebody who you're going back and forth through the

1334
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: online shows up to your door, do you feel threatened?

1335
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: And and and and and then do you? I mean, look,

1336
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: I would feel how about puts you this? I wouldn't

1337
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: feel threatened. I would feel that that was a threat.

1338
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: That certainly was a threat if in fact that happened,

1339
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: that was a threat. Like for sure, that was a threat,

1340
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: like and there are many different ways that one can

1341
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: be threatened. If you're saying that that particular threat is

1342
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: the word threat makes it seem like you're a victim too.

1343
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: It's beyond words that you use it like you saying.

1344
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you are, but I'm saying that

1345
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: you said, would you feel threatened? And I'm saying to

1346
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: cut the short ship because I feel like we're just

1347
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: talking around it. Let me tell this, any nigga who

1348
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: I got a conversation with online, you show it to

1349
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: my door. We ain't buy the box, nothing like that.

1350
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that you coming to really handles who hurts you. Yeah, okay,

1351
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: and from there on out anything that happens to you,

1352
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: which includes defending myself to the utmost of the law.

1353
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that that's the that's honestly what

1354
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: gotta go on. So once you put me now in

1355
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: that position and there's no turning back, there is no

1356
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: turning back from that. Okay, that's fair. I mean I'm

1357
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: not no turning back. I think it's gonna call me

1358
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: a bitch, you fat, you a whole, You are a snitch.

1359
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: You can say anything online words. I look at words

1360
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: and just like the thing is I touched that boy's soul.

1361
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: He laughed at him. My man's over. There was fucking

1362
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: his it was fucking it was fucking his side chick

1363
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: and my goddamn whirlpool. Okay, we got the whole video.

1364
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: It's cool and I want you to know why he laughed.

1365
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 1: He laughed because he's like, Yo, you're taking this dead

1366
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: serious like you did as serious too, Bro, like you

1367
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: dead serious. I touched that boy soul. He like this. Dude, Yo, Bro,

1368
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: you need to heal Bro. I can hear him in

1369
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: his head. Yo, Bro, you need to heal Bro like

1370
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you got it. Like yo, Bro, this is rent free brother.

1371
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: You gotta you know. I can hear him because he

1372
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 1: really laughed at that. Okay, I put that out this side.

1373
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: You can't cume to my house when we beating dog,

1374
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: he can't. Come on, Hey, come on, man, I'm gonna

1375
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: keep it on hunted. Come on. So when I put

1376
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: that out, giving this a little you know what I mean? Fiance,

1377
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: and by the way, smooth to her, Hey see once

1378
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: again to her, that is what you did with that

1379
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: is nasty evil and you owe that girl in apology

1380
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: you do act. Hold on, hold on, man, man, man

1381
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: and man, man and man. Look so let me tell

1382
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: y'all something real quick. This dude right here, let me

1383
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: be let me bunce with you, let me hence with you,

1384
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: Let me be honest with you. This dude right here

1385
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: is my friend. No bullshit, you shouldn't say that. I

1386
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

1387
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: We tried to get it. Like, we tried to get

1388
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: a studio for this. I was trying to get a

1389
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: studio for this, and and I had my man DJ

1390
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: Head shout out, DJ Head reach out to try and

1391
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: get some studios for you for us to do an NA.

1392
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: When we would call people to do the studio's head

1393
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: told me niggas was like, oh shit, yeah, get his

1394
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: ass over here. I want to talk to him. Obviously,

1395
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: that means we can't go get into studios and do

1396
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: all of that shit because huh, then be hunted. I

1397
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't know whether or not you be hot

1398
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: or not. I'm not in Jersey, but this is one

1399
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm not talking. I don't, but you're missing

1400
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: the point. I get you. I know you you're out here,

1401
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not. Look, man, nigga, you're the hardest nigg

1402
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: in the world. That's not the case. Let me get it.

1403
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're hot, but this is what I'm saying.

1404
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: This guy's my guy. As your friend, whoever you're talking about,

1405
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 1: I would have definitely pulled up there, hopefully for the conversation.

1406
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: I know. I know as your friends, you you don't

1407
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: duck conversation, So don't dug this one as your friend,

1408
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: as your homie. Bringing his fiance into that situation was wrong,

1409
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: low and all the way fucked up. As your man.

1410
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. She had nothing to do

1411
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: with that. She had nothing was going on with her.

1412
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: You like you had a babe with her, like no,

1413
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: I had no herd roar, you know what I mean.

1414
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: And she divulges her disposition or her being upset that

1415
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: she is a sight. We don't have to get back

1416
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: into the no, no, no, I'm gonna tell you why

1417
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: the wedding register thing came up, so anyway, truth be told.

1418
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: She told me they were planning a wedding right now,

1419
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. She brought up the

1420
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: fucking thing. There was a convenient link in her bio

1421
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: on Instagram. You don't want to like like you little

1422
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: broke say like you need people to contribute to like

1423
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: what you got going on, you know it like the

1424
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: baby shot, Like yo, hey you buy the stroller, you

1425
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: buy the little bib, you buy like little all of that.

1426
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: So there was there was a little thing. It's like, YO, contribute.

1427
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: I clicked on the link. I happened to have my

1428
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: had a card on hand and the side chick. I said, hey,

1429
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 1: let's pick them a gift scroll down, picked a couple

1430
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: of things out. I bought it. I thought I was

1431
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: a good guy when you start mentioning where I live

1432
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: at bringing them into it. That's what the ransom was.

1433
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: Beef and in like someone that was adjacent to Joe

1434
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: got slapped by ransom. Dude, think that he was dragged

1435
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: in it? Was he named? Or was he a collateral

1436
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: damage of because I perfect na I was. It was

1437
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: too civil. It was too civil. It was two seven,

1438
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This is this is my thing.

1439
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, like the type you got, I'm

1440
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you what type of I'm not gonna do.

1441
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: I went to his house, if I went to anybody's

1442
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: house straight straight up, then if I went to your

1443
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: house at this whole weird thing. They gotta deal, they

1444
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: gotta deal whatever. Who gives the funk whether or not

1445
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: that look at you? Because I know then named down

1446
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: he ain't down to get money like me. All Right,

1447
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: So I skipped a few parts. I think he's about

1448
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: to get into their deal. Um, and and speak to

1449
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,440
Speaker 1: that and also um, well we'll get into the specifics

1450
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: of what he's saying. Do you believe that deal? Um,

1451
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: I've seen details about it. The shit is it doesn't

1452
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: really say exclusive. Maybe it is, but it will be

1453
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: available on the platforms. It will be all over the place, right,

1454
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: maybe it has some side content. It's in third But

1455
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: do you believe the ten million audio? Your podcast? Very

1456
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: very successful show podcast? Yeah, got a couple. But like

1457
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: my my thing is, it doesn't matter whether or not

1458
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I believe it is my hatred because it doesn't matter

1459
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: when I'm going hard. Is for the love of the game. No,

1460
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: it's not. There's nothing in the love of the game,

1461
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: because first of all, first of all, be really having

1462
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: a conversation. I've said this before, I said this to

1463
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 1: the last time. All of these conversations of other niggas

1464
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: deals and what it is that they're doing or not

1465
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: doing that shit is corny to me. Who gives a fuck?

1466
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: Like I really like? I don't think, I think. And

1467
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: the and the one issue that I had with Joe

1468
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: is when Joe was on there talking about what I

1469
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: got from Bill or what I did or what they did,

1470
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about

1471
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: because he doesn't know what had gone on to bring

1472
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: me to Spotify or to the Wringer. What talk sitting

1473
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: around talking about what somebody else did, like what Dane

1474
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: were talking about, sitting around talking about what somebody else got,

1475
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,560
Speaker 1: what somebody else did, what they're worth. It's corny. And

1476
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: by the way, it's the same shit they got, this

1477
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: whole weird thing. They gotta deal. They gotta deal whatever.

1478
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: Who gives the funk whether or not they you feel?

1479
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: Did you did you get more than ten million dollars?

1480
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: What do you want to just say it? No, I'm

1481
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: asking you did you get more than ten million dollars?

1482
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, until you're willing to tell about this shit.

1483
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: I ain't told you're not gonna talk about how much

1484
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: you may? All right, let me just put this. Whatever

1485
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: you think they got, I definitely got three times more, Okay,

1486
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm just trying to tell you. Okay, I know,

1487
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you because I'm in the league, I'm

1488
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: doing this shit. So he's basically saying that they didn't

1489
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: get ten. Um, shout out the bigs. You know, I'm

1490
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: not sure, but you know I don't know them dudes

1491
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: to be chasing down nobody about no paper. So um,

1492
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 1: it sound like he's it sounded like academics is saying

1493
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: they didn't get ten. Let's listen, yo, Vin, you can't

1494
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: name three personalities more successful me. That's a fact. Three

1495
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: three personalities period, No, no hip. He'd be getting that off,

1496
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's up for debate. Bro, That's what

1497
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. His his his Reachain he ain't understanding. I

1498
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: think he ain't. You know, we can have a conversation. Brother,

1499
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: was about I was about to get you. I was

1500
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 1: about hi personalities. Okay, name three personalities? Hip hop media

1501
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: yea Joe successfully media with me Joe and hip hop

1502
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: media Joe button. What do we consider hippop media? Now?

1503
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Who dancing around? Motherfucking questions? You talking about nigga reach

1504
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: my podcast podcasting to pull up all the stuff that

1505
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: he's doing in hip hop media. You said the hip

1506
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: hop media. Bro. Okay, see this is where I got

1507
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: a big dick willie this shit again, My nigga, Joe

1508
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: has not made more money in media than me. That's

1509
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: a fact. Like, let's have told about it. Hey, I

1510
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: don't know, bro, I think that was really bold to say.

1511
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: When you need Joe to get on your podcast and

1512
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: your first show was with Joe. That's deep. But Joe

1513
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: get money from a lot of different places. Like it

1514
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: does slow down right now? You see? This is that

1515
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: why I said this game is the game, bro. When

1516
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 1: they when you get down a little bit, like hey,

1517
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: you see now your little brother start talking bad about you.

1518
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: He ain't made more paper than me. Man, you talk

1519
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: about Joe button, You know what I'm saying. Prior to

1520
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have said that. You know what I'm saying.

1521
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 1: But again, paying attention to the game is always important.

1522
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: You ask the question, Okay, well I can tell you

1523
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: that I don't know how much can't say that. Charlemayne's

1524
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: a big dog. He's a big dog to God, see

1525
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: the god nigga. No, see to God, the big nigga, No,

1526
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: see to God, the big general. Now see look at

1527
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: their respect, going on as he should time everybody. I'm

1528
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: not saying that, but Joe's like, see, the clean up

1529
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: on our three is way way more subtle. I want

1530
01:30:56,120 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: you to peep something in again. The league is the league,

1531
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: but I want you to peep something. To clean up

1532
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: on our three is way more subtle than the hold on.

1533
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: Let me just let me he set that whole thing up.

1534
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: Hold on, give me a second. Let me just Joe

1535
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: way made more money than me, and that's a fact,

1536
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: and such such name somebody else. Then when he cleaned

1537
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 1: it up is I'm not saying I got more money

1538
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: in Joe, but let me say this. You just slip

1539
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: that out there. You're seeing you just pay attention. Joe

1540
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: gets money from everywhere. Hey, shout out. You're working boy,

1541
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: you're working hard. I'm seeing you. I've I've only done media.

1542
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: I've only done media, right, Everything that I've ever owned

1543
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: is from media. Joe. Joe's done loveing hip hop. He's had,

1544
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, a pretty successful music career, like he's done

1545
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: other shit. I'm straight media. So the point of even

1546
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: when I was talking like hip hop media, you're talking

1547
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: about niggas who gotten up off the media. So I

1548
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: don't care what Charlotte Magne got off the media. Yeah,

1549
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying you said more successful. I'm saying Joe. And

1550
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: this is because these are two guys that you brought

1551
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: up to me saying that these are people that you

1552
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: look up to, that and that one one A and

1553
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: one being so Joe Charlemagne And what do you say

1554
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: about these radio guys? Like what would you say, like

1555
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: your big boy bro? Come on now, people will make

1556
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Yeah, Thomas changed. So that's all

1557
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. People will make a lot of money.

1558
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: Ebro make a lot of money. Yeah, you were saying

1559
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: most successful. See you can't you see you were saying

1560
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: more successful. Then what is successful? It gotta be talking

1561
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: about the money were talking about Ebro. We make a

1562
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: ship load of money. We talk about big boys, shit

1563
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: load of money. Nick Cannon could be consider hip hop media.

1564
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: You understand flag hip hop media? You know, so, hey,

1565
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot on on hip hop me. Then you

1566
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: gotta start looking at companies that's considered hip hop media.

1567
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: You know so again, and then if you want to

1568
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: add Instagram, you know, people like make a lot of

1569
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: money from Instagram and social media, but shoulders, the shade

1570
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: room shoulders, neighborhood talk soldiers say cheese six figures maybe

1571
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: a month. It's a lot of these companies, So you better,

1572
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, your perspective sometime be off when

1573
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: you stay in the back cave. Bat on both sides now,

1574
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: like like brot hebro got hot nine seven, Hebro got Apple.

1575
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: But see, all of this shit is kind of whacked

1576
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 1: to me. You don't think streamers of your streamers this

1577
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: type of energy on money right narrative around here when

1578
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: I keep telling you when I'm are you ye, when

1579
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Ruy Millimore, it's not because of old

1580
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm judging I am infinitely more successful him, and you

1581
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: can't mention any like I like standing on my shit right.

1582
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: And if I didn't stand on it, I don't I know.

1583
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 1: It's even in the podcast game we keep hearing random

1584
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 1: vague shit. I stand on my shit right. I mentioned

1585
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: in them bumbass things because number I don't like the

1586
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: less of personal vendetim number two. I like it for

1587
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: the love of the game. You got me shit those

1588
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: times that you when Joe mentioned certain numbers when it

1589
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: came to like you know, his possible deal with Spotify.

1590
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: I was like, this is possible, this and third, you know,

1591
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 1: until I got to have my seat at the negotiation.

1592
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: This is the syndrome sometimes we have. Sometimes we have

1593
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: the everybody line except me syndrome. And um, if I

1594
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: just listen to act and close my close my eyes,

1595
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: and I don't know the business that he's doing, which

1596
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 1: is good business, and he's making a lot of money,

1597
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: it sounds like I hear somebody that's saying that nobody

1598
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: else is validated, but me, no know what what what

1599
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: anybody anybody else lying about what they're making from podcasting,

1600
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: but me, I'm the only person that can make this

1601
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: amount of money. Or if you're not making this amount

1602
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: of money, you lying you are making this amount of money.

1603
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: It's like the barometer. It's me though, I'm the I'm

1604
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: the limit limit, I'm the test. You know. So you know,

1605
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: if I got teen, you didn't get teen, you got three.

1606
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not sure where that's coming from. But

1607
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: but something's making broad do that, it's coming off, it's

1608
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: being received like that. Really you don't see what it was.

1609
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: And then I could be like I could valuate whether

1610
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: I'd be like, it's something the truth or maybe not.

1611
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. If they threw a

1612
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: number out there and the number wasn't real, how does

1613
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: that affect you? Because people like y'all and I'm talking

1614
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,560
Speaker 1: about everybody else in the game. Yeah, I hate what

1615
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: niggas everybody, y'all, Joe, Charlotte Mane. I just believe if

1616
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I came out and capped y'all, call me out, you

1617
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: motherfucking lying, you will was the lot? You know? I say,

1618
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: if right now I start seeding articles and I start

1619
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: seeding information to say I got twenty five million dollars,

1620
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: you would not call me out, be honest, just to

1621
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: say you think I'm gonna go on my shit opened

1622
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: up my mind to talk about how much fucking money

1623
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: you made, No mind, it's not about hating on the

1624
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: actual person you asked. You asked me about me. Look,

1625
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,879
Speaker 1: it might be somebody's job to go in and decide

1626
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: who's lying. Wait a second, who's lying on the money

1627
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: that they made, who's lying on the house that they bought,

1628
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 1: who's lying on whose jewels are real a fake? It's

1629
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: not my motherfucking job. I don't fucking care. So I

1630
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 1: don't care. Why the fun did you care what the

1631
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: fuck that nigga Joe Butter was playing? Ruy me me more.

1632
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: If you didn't care about that, why did I care

1633
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: about the lead? Why did I care what Joe's playing?

1634
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Who says I care what Joe's playing? I've heard you

1635
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: speak about it. No, I've heard you speaking about it

1636
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: on other platform. No, this is what I said about that.

1637
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: What I said about that was they said, I don't

1638
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 1: know what was going on. But you can't about what

1639
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: they say. No, I can about the fact that this

1640
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: is the thing with Joe and them. The podcast broke up.

1641
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: They said they didn't get what they got from their man.

1642
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: That is the story, not how much money they were making,

1643
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: because I don't even know how much money they got.

1644
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how much money they think they deserve.

1645
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 1: But I know whatever it was that it caused a

1646
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,560
Speaker 1: rift between most people's favorite hip hop podcasts. That's what

1647
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 1: it is to be talking about. I have no idea

1648
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 1: what they were making. I don't care what they were making.

1649
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: The only thing that I care about is it was

1650
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: enough to break up the podcast. And that was a

1651
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: podcast that everybody like listening to that's the fucking thing,

1652
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 1: whether or not somebody had ten million, fifteen million, twenty million.

1653
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,600
Speaker 1: We sit on these platforms, we talk about all this

1654
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 1: person got this big deal and this and this and

1655
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: that they didn't get this. I'm still number one. It's

1656
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: all a little dick energy to me, you know what's

1657
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 1: so funny? But I could see like the teams esk

1658
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: just jumps out of you, like you're able to spend.

1659
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, let me just say this, I'm interesting. Now.

1660
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 1: What's that a showy named Wheezy. Don't sit here and

1661
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I can just mentioned them that I

1662
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 1: talked about the lead. I love talking the league. This

1663
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: is a passion of mine. Like that's weezy now because

1664
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 1: because she she mentioned she was like, oh um, is

1665
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: mentioned these dudes for the podcast was successful and that's

1666
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 1: not true. It's successful. But anyway, keep going on. You

1667
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: started on weezy now because no, it's not even gonna like, bro,

1668
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 1: are we gonna talk about the league? Bro? Like everybody's

1669
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: if there's no league, it's cool talk about the little bit.

1670
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: But I've always I look at YouTube as a league.

1671
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: I'll talk about other things. I talk about the days

1672
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Yo, why supremacy, I trauma? Okay, well,

1673
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: none of those things are my passions, only what I do.

1674
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I talked to Adam. I said, there's no

1675
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: other I wake up. I fucking you had a nightmare

1676
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: about some ship that had to do industry. That's all

1677
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: my life. I don't know. I know, it's not I live, sir,

1678
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: you get me. So like when I'm mentioned with the

1679
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: biggest one, it's because, like shit, that's that's just what

1680
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: I consume. Dari. It's not like, you know what I'm thinking.

1681
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't care about the league equally. Do you talk

1682
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: about everybody equally? Yeah, yeah, like you know what I mean. Shit,

1683
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: I had thoughts and I was wondering about you know, um,

1684
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, because I think Joe and Joe does as

1685
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,919
Speaker 1: well too. I think when Joe mentioned about Gilly's podcasts

1686
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: and like ownership and shit like that, I was very

1687
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: keen on ownership, you know, ship me closing my Spotify deal,

1688
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 1: I'm always one hundred percent. You see, everybody be just

1689
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: acting really fake. They love told my other people that

1690
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: never told about themselves. That was one of the things

1691
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: that made a deal a deal. I closed a deal

1692
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: with with Spotify because I was like, yo, okay cool,

1693
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 1: because I really that was embedded in my mind for

1694
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Well, if you don't want the ship,

1695
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, and again I never did a podcast. But

1696
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: then you say you made more money and Joe, very interesting.

1697
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: You're saying you care about it. You have to press

1698
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,839
Speaker 1: the number up if you weren't going to get an ownership.

1699
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: Not necessary. That that was nig I walked away from

1700
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: money from more money from other people. But I was

1701
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: thinking about certain things because I'm really like, this is

1702
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: all my life, Like I know what, yo, I don't know.

1703
01:39:58,479 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about your family, I don't

1704
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 1: want to. I don't have no school, I don't have

1705
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: no kids. I don't know. But let me tell but

1706
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: let me tell you something like that. With the ownership thing,

1707
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,560
Speaker 1: even that's poorn. The ownership thing is poorn. Let me

1708
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: get this out. This is important. Nobody can tell you

1709
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: how you need to do, what it is that you

1710
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: need to do. Nobody can tell you that. Nobody can

1711
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 1: tell you that. Like I respect all of these guys.

1712
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: Some of these guys go, I'm own it from day one.

1713
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 1: Some of these guys go I'm gonna work up to

1714
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: this point and then I'm gonna some guys own some

1715
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: things that own others. No one can give you a

1716
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,560
Speaker 1: blueprint as to how your career is supposed to go.

1717
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: No one can give you a blueprint as to how

1718
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: your business is supposed to go. There are things No

1719
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm not what I'm saying. So what I'm saying, so

1720
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: listen why I'm talking about with the ownership. There are

1721
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: people out there that is incredibly important to them to

1722
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: own everything that they have so that they can have

1723
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: full control. That is an ideal situation and everyone, ever,

1724
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: everyone at some point you'd want to have total control

1725
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 1: over their talent. Everybody should. Controlling ownership is two different things.

1726
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: It depends if you own something out yes, yeah, yeah,

1727
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: I think that you would have control over. But this

1728
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: is why I said that he's good, you see, because

1729
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: usually I have to stop and make that point. But

1730
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: you see how quickie five back, he is good. This

1731
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 1: van length and guy's good. You got you got this

1732
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: up their podcast co say my brother. But but what

1733
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying is this to fit everybody and put everybody

1734
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 1: through the same pinhole and to say, hey, if it's

1735
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: not done this way, then you're a slave, or you're

1736
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 1: a chump, or you're this that's stupid. There are forty

1737
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: million black people in America. There are three hundred and

1738
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 1: fifty million people. Somehow, those are forty million experiences with

1739
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 1: fifty million experiences. All different types of experience have their

1740
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: own individual, unique palette of what they want out of life.

1741
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: Where we sit around and talk about these one side

1742
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: fit all things when it comes to business, when it

1743
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,759
Speaker 1: comes to culture, when it comes to people, it's actually

1744
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: de intellectualizing these conversations. The reality is, for somebody as

1745
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 1: far along as somebody else, it might make sense at

1746
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: this point in their career to own everything that they

1747
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: do one hundred percent. But then some people, if you're

1748
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: coming from a certain spot, if you want to build

1749
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 1: up your name, it might make sense to partner. It

1750
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: might sense make sense to do an ownership partnership. Don't

1751
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 1: let anybody tell that you're you're a failure because you're

1752
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: not doing business the way they think you should be

1753
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: doing business. And then, as I said, I'm a fan

1754
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: of the league, right, Um, I agreed a lot with

1755
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 1: Charlo Men and Joe, Like I think given someone in

1756
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: Joe's position, someone who made a podcast pop on his own. Yeah,

1757
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight for that ownership ship. The money might

1758
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: not even matter as much as that ownership part one percent.

1759
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: I get that from him, you know. I mean he's

1760
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: coming into now when it comes to like say, Charlottagne,

1761
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: he has a black effect. He's because of his talent

1762
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: and levergy has He's gonna own half of pop lane.

1763
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: If you're in my lane, you can't say hold on,

1764
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 1: hold on. You can't say that Rory and Mall podcast

1765
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 1: is trash. All right, Let's listen. I think he's calling

1766
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: Rory mal podcast all right. So this is where we

1767
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: currently sit. DJ Condemnics is now as Van Layton. What

1768
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: does he think about Rory and Mall's podcast. Let's see

1769
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: his response. Um, I've listened to the podcast before. You

1770
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 1: can give contact. Just say yes or no and give contact,

1771
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 1: all right, I've listened to the podcast before. Is he good?

1772
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: It's like I've listened. I've listened to the podcast. I've

1773
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 1: listened to the podcast before. Dude, think it's good. Van,

1774
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, let we gotta be honest. Let me

1775
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: so trust me. I live in so much Wait wait wait,

1776
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: wait wait just wait, just wait, just wait. That part

1777
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 1: their podcast isn't for me, just like I'm sure higher

1778
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: learning isn't for them, Like like their podcast isn't for me.

1779
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: It's not for me. It's a lot. It's the league

1780
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: if rate another player, would you call it yo? I

1781
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of yo. I listened. I listen

1782
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: to calder Daddy. I love Alexander. I think she's a

1783
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: queen of Spotify. Should be talk. Right, here's the thing.

1784
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 1: It's not for me to listen to good content, good

1785
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: content right for me. I'm not gonna say that podcast

1786
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: is bad content. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not

1787
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna say that them that podcast. I'm not gonna say

1788
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: it's bad content. You want me to say the conflict, No,

1789
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: you don't want me to say that podcast because I'm

1790
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: not gonna say that. You won't CoA side and either no,

1791
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that. Then let me ask a question,

1792
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: do I think a better question to Djack Adamage? Right?

1793
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: There is what makes the podcast bad? And and also

1794
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: before we get there, let's let's put together what makes

1795
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: a good podcast in your opinion? Because I see a

1796
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 1: lot of people leveraging these guests based podcasts and they're

1797
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 1: putting them up against people that's creating content. That's why

1798
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: Vlad is at the top. Vlad is creating content every day,

1799
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: but he's doing it in a way where it's interview based,

1800
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: but it's documentary style. What I'm saying is these podcasts

1801
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: and he doesn't operate like a podcasting operations, more like

1802
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: a show minds. I want to operate both ways, right,

1803
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 1: So that's my fight, that's my hustle. But I hear

1804
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people are leveraging other people's audiences and

1805
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 1: then shifting on the up and coming creators that don't

1806
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: have those relationships. Right. It's a weird thing happening, right.

1807
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 1: So because they can leverage rappers as certain people, they

1808
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: leverage those people as they should to get on their podcast,

1809
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: but then they shit on the up and coming. They

1810
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: can't do that. Now, if we look at just content

1811
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 1: and just talking and just segments and transitions and segways

1812
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 1: and things like that, we may be talking a different game.

1813
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the up and coming creators, it doesn't work

1814
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 1: that way. So the guests do mean something because you

1815
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: pay with your eyeballs. That's another concept. I brought to

1816
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: the game. So with people paying with the eyeballs when

1817
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: I get these high level guests, these guests bring eyeballs,

1818
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: which in turns brains customers and people that want to

1819
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: stay because they know me for always having people that

1820
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:35,560
Speaker 1: they like overhill. Right, I'm in communication and negotiation with

1821
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: a guy that they got money that's doing. I think

1822
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 1: he's promoting with a lot of rappers and stuff, and

1823
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. But I'm trying to tell

1824
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 1: him the Willow and Gilly game. I think about ten

1825
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 1: people got rich out Willow and Gilly when they was

1826
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: in the building process, like investing money, doing certain things

1827
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: with them. Now, those people also left that with a

1828
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,560
Speaker 1: brand that's sustainable now to this day. And so I

1829
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 1: gotta find my people that's looking to do that as

1830
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: we building a brand so that we can branch out

1831
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: and then we all still held. I don't need each other,

1832
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: but there's millions of dollars being made, and everybody's steal

1833
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 1: under this one, not contractually but brotherhood wise. You see

1834
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, And so somebody got to build

1835
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: with me something and investor this building that has something.

1836
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to build with me. Let me

1837
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: go sit down with these people and create these moments

1838
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: in the culture, and then your brand sits next to

1839
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: my brand, and those brands create a brand that's um,

1840
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: that's unstoppable. Um. But he's asking it's Royal Mall podcast trash.

1841
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: I think before you can answer that, we got to

1842
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: really know the parameters and know what are you saying

1843
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: makes the trash podcast? And and why does that make

1844
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:54,560
Speaker 1: it trash? I think that skits are great. UM. I

1845
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,759
Speaker 1: do think that they had expectations that they just couldn't

1846
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 1: meet anyway, becoming off of the Joe budd situation, right.

1847
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I knew that they wouldn't be able to sustain all

1848
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: of those people, but that never was the plan. You see.

1849
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: But this game involved with what they're doing in Biggs

1850
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 1: is behind them and Burner is behind them. Then folks

1851
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna get some paper out of this ship. They got

1852
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: people with him that no no money, no know what

1853
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: relationships look like. So they're gonna get some paper. But

1854
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: let's listen to a little more. But I have an

1855
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: audience because they want me to give it up. Nigga.

1856
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: You you don't give it up, nigga, You gotta give

1857
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: it up suck They dick suck every industry nigga trying

1858
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: to give it up. Hold on the audience, gonna bring

1859
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 1: it to the top, hold of it, hold hold on,

1860
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: give it up? Do you think Higher Learning is a

1861
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: good podcast? I do for what it for, what it does.

1862
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: If your money and I call your podcast trash, I

1863
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 1: will tell you everything. So there you go. So what

1864
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying is and I know that you would probably

1865
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: think that the podcast is trash. Does that mean that

1866
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: the podcast is trash? We're talking about pop Lane. If

1867
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 1: you're in my land, you can't saying hold on, hold on.

1868
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 1: You can't say that Royal Mall podcast is trash, saying

1869
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: this trash, saying it's bad. It's not bad. Men. You

1870
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 1: heard hard on us her bad pod, because the podcast

1871
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: is not bad. Bro. You're serious, though, Bro, I don't

1872
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: listen to Joe No serious. Bro, Like I don't listen

1873
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 1: to Joe no more. You can meet the podcast. It's trash.

1874
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't listen to Joe no more. Joe. Joe, Joe

1875
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 1: got to this, bro, compare to contact you. We gotta

1876
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 1: hold people say why we can't get honestly and this ship.

1877
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: This is why you're because you're trying to listen. Why

1878
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: into a quarter? Then this is why I like to

1879
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: be friends you nobody, because the day I gotta tell

1880
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Speaker 1: the truth about you, if you don't respect me as

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01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 1: a man, that I'm gonna give it up the jo

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01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: for a second. Or they're not situations, just really my

1883
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 1: thing again, who says you have the truth about people?

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing that I don't like. And I

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01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I love the passion because I'm me in it and

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Speaker 1: everybody that watched me know how I feeling, how moving,

1887
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: No loon gonna be at the top. Every one of

1888
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: them they watched me know this, they tell me. But

1889
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 1: the point of it is, who says you got the

1890
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 1: truth about the specifics about these things? When I talk,

1891
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: always speak about I'm just examining the game observation wise.

1892
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't have the details and the specifics, and I

1893
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,240
Speaker 1: don't speak as though what I say is truth unless

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01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: it's dealing with my truth. You may have caped for

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01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: people on your strength. Hold on. First of all, I'm

1896
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: glad you're spinning and we could get to it. I

1897
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: don't get shot out Roy shout of mouth. Yeah, I'm

1898
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 1: here to get get to it. First of all, people

1899
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 1: are gonna probably listen to what I said before and

1900
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 1: just what I said of the Joe thing. I don't

1901
01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 1: know what Joe's got, but I just I definitely feel

1902
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 1: I've made more in accomplishment. How how how do you

1903
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 1: think you accomplished more than Joe Budden in the media space.

1904
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: One of the shows you had, he built, the other

1905
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: one you have with Spotify? What media space you're talking about?

1906
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: Your your Instagram is a beautiful thing, and you've been

1907
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 1: able to make a living. Your YouTube even a beautiful thing.

1908
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: But that doesn't say media fam Joe's had several shows,

1909
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 1: been on several shows, Like I think we got to

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01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: talk about that a little more. Me and You podcast

1911
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: is for me, that's not bad. That's not a bad podcast.

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01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to hold on. I was just trying

1913
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: to say, not a bad podcast. Even matter with me

1914
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: saying that the thing about Joe and me mediawizing, what

1915
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: we've earned whatever, it's not. I love Joe, but like

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01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to call it what it is. I

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01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: still love that nigga, and I think that niggas is

1918
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 1: just I think if he's not the most talented he's

1919
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 1: the second and its Charlomagne and Joe, and that's what

1920
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: it is now. Doesn't mean any kind of criticism about

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01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 1: his content or anything else. I have to like, oh

1922
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: just chucking drive nor he better be a man to

1923
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: be able to accept what I'm saying as criticism. Though

1924
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,799
Speaker 1: I fuck with you. You are over here, you basically

1925
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 1: for me, blah blah blah. He they're trying to make

1926
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: content for you, not really, that's who they make content.

1927
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Hold On, dude, you listen. Did you listen to Joe

1928
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: Budding podcast before I did? You don't think that hold on,

1929
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: you're saying, can't be honest with you though, you don't

1930
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: think they're trying to get out of it. So let

1931
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: me not be honest with you. I didn't listen to

1932
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: the Joe Budden podcast for hip hop takes or anything

1933
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: like that. I listened to the Joe Budden podcast for

1934
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Joe Rory and Maul. Wait stop, I listened to the

1935
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: podcast for that dynamic, no slide on Ice and Ish.

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01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 1: People love them. They doing their thing. That dynamic is

1937
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: the best person. Let me say that. Joe, Rory and Maul.

1938
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: That's why I listened to the podcast Word but it's

1939
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 1: just it's just a good part of it's just a

1940
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: good part of shout out issue getting you. You're getting

1941
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: your status up about that. It's not Joe, Rory and

1942
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 1: all it all. It feels like there's an ingredy missing.

1943
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real, which is the best feels like

1944
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 1: the ingredient objectively, it don't you never talking about me anywhere.

1945
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: But I listened to the YO. I'm here for the

1946
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: love of the sport. Right right now they were YO.

1947
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: They were basically a plane headed for the dirt, and

1948
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 1: then they had some announcement about the deal and then

1949
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 1: they're winning the limbo again. Right their ship is going down.

1950
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: I have no reason to talk about him. That's the

1951
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 1: only reason why I had an issue with Wesay. I

1952
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not talking about people because they're hot.

1953
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about things i'm passionate about. I know when

1954
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: passion about Rory and Mall, I'm passionate about watching was

1955
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 1: crashing at that's so toxic. But but you know what

1956
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, take me the therapy. Lad you're shot, but

1957
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm passionate. I am you gotta heal. I'm glad that

1958
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 1: we get in full twitch mode. No, No, there's no

1959
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 1: healing to come. You have to heal. You have to heal.

1960
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 1: I felt like I've healed. No, you haven't healed yet.

1961
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 1: He listen, who with Like whatever this situation, I'm good.

1962
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 1: Why do you think I heal? You haven't healed because

1963
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of hurt there. You're still looking

1964
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: at things like all of nothing, zero sum game. There's

1965
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: no nuance to what you're talking about. Have yo, I'm

1966
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: just telling you the truth. Bro. Joe had probably five

1967
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: weeks of getting together with these new guys that he's

1968
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: on with Bobby. I told Joe it should be just

1969
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: like I'll do my podcast. YOA. I had a great

1970
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 1: conversation with Adam. I felt I might have a great

1971
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 1: conversation with you. Um, had a great conversation with twenty

1972
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: one Savays, had a great conversation with hell. Like there's

1973
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: certain people like it's like, I know you're like to

1974
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: see my podcast is the ideal podcast being able to

1975
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: do it like this but then being able to also

1976
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: pivot and interview people. Um, it's the Joe Rogan affect

1977
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 1: right again. You won't hear black people say that. Shout

1978
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: out to Joe Rogan. Shout out to the forefathers of

1979
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 1: our podcasting media space. Shout out to combat Jack. His

1980
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: name isn't brought up enough in this game. Shout out

1981
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: to combat Jack. Shout out to Chris Munroe. Shout out

1982
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 1: the Loudspeaker Network. Shout out to tax Stone. Shout out

1983
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 1: to um Um Pistol Pete. Shout out right, a lot

1984
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: of these people was here way back when. Now you

1985
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: hit he vote the game to get together again. I'm

1986
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: a student of the game. Shout out to the read

1987
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to all these people that really put the

1988
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 1: work in. Brilliant idiots, horrible decisions. Shout out again Eddie Bravo,

1989
01:55:52,840 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 1: Bert Christner, Tom Sagura, Shout out to theo Van on

1990
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 1: newly Nashville. Shout out to Joey Diaz. These people built

1991
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: this industry. Shout out Tom. Who else can I think of?

1992
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: And I know I'm missing some people. As soon as

1993
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: I get done, I'm gonna think about um. Even people

1994
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 1: on the internet played into this, like the Tommy Soldermayrs

1995
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: played into everything. Currently. Sit said siding at us Hassan Campbells.

1996
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: It's a lot going on in this media spot. It's

1997
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 1: a lot going on podcasting and just carved itself out

1998
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: into being this. And I think that right now I'm

1999
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: operating at a very high level in regards to what

2000
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: can be done by one man on a podcast. Wait

2001
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 1: till you start seeing me pivot and go sit down

2002
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: with people. You don't even know what that's like. But

2003
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: I know people that's in tune with me. I know

2004
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 1: that they're saying, when he's sit down with people, he

2005
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: gonna get something out of them. Oh, I love him

2006
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: talking to his friends. No, you love Joe because Joe's

2007
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: podcast back popping. But nobody want admitted because everybody jumped

2008
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 1: off the bandwagon and proclaimed, oh you have ever heard it?

2009
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 1: But but but but to be but, to be real

2010
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 1: with you, that is really and I've told him this before,

2011
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: it was really real. That's because you dick rod it

2012
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, how the fun cold I be

2013
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: dick Rode. If you didn't, if you heard it before,

2014
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: that mean you it was part of your listening. First

2015
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: of all, because you're saying, Hey, I don't like what happened,

2016
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna let's not nigga. First of all, it's

2017
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: never no fucking dick rod like the what the what

2018
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 1: the reality is this? I listened to the podcast. The

2019
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: podcast got to a point to where the stress between them,

2020
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: I actually skipped them off if I them, I don't

2021
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 1: actually stopped listening before then, because really, to be honest

2022
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: with you, I stopped listening way before then. I stopped

2023
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: listening number one, when my name was brought up on

2024
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: the podcast and not such a great light that made

2025
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 1: me turn it off. And then number two, I stopped

2026
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 1: listening when it was obvious that the dynamic that they

2027
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: had was already broken. So when it was obvious that

2028
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't that no more, I didn't want to hear

2029
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: it no more. And that's fine, and by the way,

2030
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 1: that's just me. But when when it became obvious that

2031
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 1: there was something in the air between them, it wasn't

2032
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 1: the same pot And that's the reason why I was.

2033
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm not fake at all. What I'm telling you is

2034
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: I listened to that podcast for one specific thing, the

2035
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: dynamic between those guys, and that dynamic got ruined, and

2036
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: so I don't listen to it, okay, And I won't

2037
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: go far or divote stuff like that's obviously wasn't on

2038
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 1: Cameron Blah blah, right, But do you remember at times

2039
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 1: when we were talking and you know I love talking

2040
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 1: the league I took the league? Did I not say repeatedly?

2041
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 1: I said, do you like minding other nigga's business? Is

2042
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: what you like? No? They mind? Mind it? No, you

2043
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: like minding other nigga's business? And I don't everybody mind

2044
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 1: mind like? What is this fucking fascination that you feel

2045
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 1: like that we all be sitting around talking about you

2046
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 1: hold on now you right? Who who'll be minding your business?

2047
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: And in situations when it comes and criticized me about content,

2048
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:00,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the words who Yes, ain't no

2049
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 1: mind of my business? Right? No? No? No. Fascination on

2050
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: the war is actually, bro, you gotta be careful for

2051
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 1: the slippery league. The war shot racks, we're gonna do it.

2052
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 1: We do switch. The warshot rack is something you put

2053
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: out that's not your business. When you put the war

2054
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 1: shot rack out, that's our business because we're watching it, right,

2055
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 1: So when you put the war and shot rack out,

2056
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 1: that's our business. When you comment on why did you

2057
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: comment on Ruy, Milly mull and Joe if it wasn't

2058
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 1: a business, were commented on the Jumpers podcast. I watched

2059
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: that watch watch Everything fifty times. The reasons the reason

2060
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 1: why I commented on there is because they brought it

2061
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Like if we didn't even know what

2062
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: was going on, they made it public, so now it's

2063
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: something to talk about. This is where you're hypocrite. You

2064
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 1: said by the time they brought to the podcast, you

2065
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 1: claim you stopped listening before them because they brought it

2066
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: to the podcast. I look at these things, like I

2067
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: tell you, man, these things like a boxing you know,

2068
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 1: like I say, van Is is top tier act fighting

2069
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,240
Speaker 1: back though you know, but again me and quick on

2070
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 1: your feet. It's more than just talking. It's more than

2071
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: just talking. It's understanding involved with communicating with people effectively,

2072
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 1: and um, you gotta learn how to talk to be

2073
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 1: in this space. We'll listen to a little bit more

2074
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 1: of it. Then we'll get back into some other topics

2075
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 1: I have. But this is good game of being given

2076
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 1: given out, and I just think it's a masterclass. As

2077
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: to two podcasts, is communicating, you know, and doing it

2078
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: in a way where you don't see many pauses. There's

2079
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 1: no dead as. That's constant flowing of communication. It's not

2080
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: really It's a beautiful thing. Man. These podcast things are

2081
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. It was everywhere that was trending on Twitter.

2082
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 1: What you're talking about? Okay, so why didn't you get

2083
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 1: the podcast another listen, another chance after the show was dissolved,

2084
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 1: that you could get another opinion. I listened. So when

2085
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: I say I did, I listened to one or two

2086
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't for me. Why do you acting like

2087
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: that's crazy? This, by the way, I want to point

2088
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Speaker 1: out to everybody who's listening, this is a spin cycle

2089
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 1: of a man who who literally is a media pro.

2090
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: And trust me, I've not worked with the best one.

2091
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 1: This guy's nuts. Like, Yo, you could never Joe was

2092
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 1: the nigga you could never hold on the water black.

2093
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 1: We finally got you. I got a breath. Right, So

2094
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 1: are you telling me right you're spinning? Are you telling

2095
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: me right now that there's not people out there that

2096
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 1: if you take people off and replace people with other

2097
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: people and whatever it is, Let me ask you this,

2098
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,720
Speaker 1: and this is not a distauayno at all. Do you

2099
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 1: feel like there was mad people who may be tuned

2100
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 1: out of everyday struggle once Joe was gone? This is

2101
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 1: a difference to me Evan and he's making they wanted

2102
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 1: a certain energy Wayno, really, dope, dude, really talented dude,

2103
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't amazingly tell doesn't bring that energy. And when

2104
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 1: that energy wasn't there, I told him about behind the

2105
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: scene combos I had with place of them, just trying

2106
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 1: to name drop anybody who they could feel could have

2107
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: a combative situation with me. Right so so so we'll

2108
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 1: like what like. But that's being honest. I'm asking you.

2109
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 1: You keep saying these things. It's not for me. Where

2110
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: is it not? Wait? Wait, this is what I'm saying.

2111
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 1: You say that, but I don't have to be that way, bro.

2112
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,560
Speaker 1: They don't have to be that way. It really don't.

2113
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 1: So it's not that black and white. What I told

2114
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:24,240
Speaker 1: you is I stopped to listen to the podcast before

2115
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: then because the dynamic between those guys place. I can't

2116
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 1: say that the fucking shit is whack. It's not for me, yo,

2117
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: Then I can tell like your relationship people like really

2118
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 1: Cloud And I always tell people if anybody who wants

2119
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 1: to be a personality, say your opinion, fuck everybody else,

2120
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie to you. I had a conversation Charlote

2121
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: made and if you know, I've been watching his show, um,

2122
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: which is The God's On His Truth. It's on Comedy Central.

2123
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: First episode. I literally looked at him and be like, Yo,

2124
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 1: this is not shar his voice. That's not his voice.

2125
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 1: That's all right. We got one more part of the

2126
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 1: interview we're gonna look at and then we'll move on.

2127
02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 1: FU put you in a position where you just can't win,

2128
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 1: just to talk about a four four year period of

2129
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: life where you weren't really making no income, you lived

2130
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 1: with your mama, And the only thing you'll be talking

2131
02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: about until your sixty is that, Yeah, it used to

2132
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 1: be fucking all the girls in high schools. Most of

2133
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 1: the dudes who are lit in high school that I

2134
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: went to, they never left the country. They never traveled

2135
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 1: the world, they never bought a house, They never like, like,

2136
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 1: catch a question. Do you think they think about you

2137
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 1: as much as you think about them? A fucking course

2138
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:37,120
Speaker 1: you really do, yes, Okay, Because every time I'll go

2139
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 1: back there, they'd be like, yo, damn, bro, you forgot is.

2140
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you think about me when I was here?

2141
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 1: So this is my thing, and this let me tell

2142
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: you why I agree with you. Number one, that's the

2143
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 1: hardest thing to get kids to understand. It's hard. Why

2144
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: don't we make that cool though? Why don't we make

2145
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 1: it cool to say, Yo, the dude who's making a

2146
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 1: conscious decision that he's not gonna just waste mommy and

2147
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,000
Speaker 1: daddy's money and take out these random huge loans in

2148
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: college to just have a great time and then pretty

2149
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 1: much you're gonna be working at Walmart afterwards. Why don't

2150
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,880
Speaker 1: we actually commend the kid who's gonna say, hey, I'm

2151
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 1: taking this serious because I know there's gonna be a

2152
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: huge part the majority of your life is gonna be

2153
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: about what you make what um, what situations that are

2154
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 1: realistic too, where you live at um, what you could

2155
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 1: do in your own livelihood other than college in high school? College,

2156
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: high school shape everybody's life. I know, But I want

2157
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 1: you to think about something. Everything that you're saying now

2158
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 1: is facts, right, But look at your description of Barack Obama.

2159
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 1: From that what I mean literal literally ten or fifteen minutes,

2160
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So so your description of Barack

2161
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: Obama is like a nerd book stacked up every nigga

2162
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: became the president. So there's nothing wrong with it? Well,

2163
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: it's it's not there's nothing wrong with it. Let me

2164
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:50,880
Speaker 1: let me get this out. Nothing that's right with it.

2165
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 1: If you if it's something right with it, if you

2166
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: come back and you look at the world, nerds rule

2167
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:58,040
Speaker 1: the world. People who are diligent. So let's put that

2168
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 1: out as a model. That's why I want. That's obviously true.

2169
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: People don't. Here's the thing, gangster rappers, whoever. Everybody has

2170
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 1: their own spear where they can do whatever the fun

2171
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 1: they want to do. But my thing, but my thing

2172
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 1: is this being diligent and passionate. Like when I was

2173
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 1: in Hoping, people think Elon Musty. Don't think gangster Bill

2174
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 1: gays d people got out of this paper, they don't

2175
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 1: think gangster. High school, I was diligent and passionate about movies,

2176
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: about writing about all of these things, right, and I'm

2177
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: about to getting through the friends zone, about navigating through

2178
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: the friend zone. I was more so college, but still

2179
02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 1: but still so. It's diligent and passionate about things. They

2180
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,880
Speaker 1: tell you, Hey, don't be that about pokemon, don't be

2181
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:41,240
Speaker 1: that about movies, don't be that about science, don't be

2182
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 1: that about all we'd be that about certain things. My

2183
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 1: thing is you're right. But I'm telling you to let

2184
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: your hurt go because what you're doing, I'm telling you

2185
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 1: you're right. I'm telling you to let your hurt go

2186
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: because what you're doing is you're jumping into something that's cyclical. Right,

2187
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 1: So now you got it, and now so what you

2188
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: want to do is because you got it, you kind

2189
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 1: of want to shift on people. And it's the shitting

2190
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: on people that makes you into the guys that you're

2191
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 1: talking about from people, because because there are people that

2192
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 1: come up, you want to I want to create the

2193
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 1: narrative for the kids. So so let me tell what happens.

2194
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't want a dumb rapper who literally hit the lottery.

2195
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:22,880
Speaker 1: There's way more of me. Let me tell him. But

2196
02:06:22,960 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 1: let me tell us. I want to let me tell

2197
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: you what happens. This is what happens. The guys that

2198
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about in high school. Those guys are actually

2199
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: kind of harmless, right because they flash in the pan,

2200
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 1: they peak at sixteen or wherever they come they go.

2201
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 1: But crime, yeah, whatever. But but see the guys like you,

2202
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 1: the ones that have that internalized thing and go on

2203
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 1: to become mediamoguls or politicians or cops or whatever. Y'all

2204
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:53,120
Speaker 1: take y'all take people. I'm saying people that got bullied

2205
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 1: in high school and become cops in and they saw

2206
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 1: bullying other people you so so, so what happens is

2207
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 1: the people like themself. They end up taking the hurt

2208
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 1: from all of that time, and then you go out

2209
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 1: into the real world where you can have real influence

2210
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:11,760
Speaker 1: and start sucking over people. Because girl, trying with you

2211
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 1: and eleventh grade now I want go on, I had

2212
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,520
Speaker 1: encore trying to them. No, but I'm gonna be honest

2213
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 1: with you though. Man, I'm damn little sick of And

2214
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, I love you and I

2215
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,600
Speaker 1: love Sean man. But god damn it. When did yall

2216
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 1: niggas really just turn to these like psychiatristic Everything is

2217
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: about hurting trauma. No, motherfucker no, everything is about hurting trauma.

2218
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 1: And they're asking me what hurts me? No, No, listen,

2219
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 1: they hurt you, which is why are you still thinking

2220
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: about people? No? No, no, no, no, no no no,

2221
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 1: because nas, It's the reason why I go on clubhouse,

2222
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 1: not because I'm hurting, because I know that they're I

2223
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 1: have an entire audience of kids that is watching me

2224
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 1: and that a lot of them see themselves in me.

2225
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't the coolest, nothing like that. So I can't

2226
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: play around with with with the narrative of making it

2227
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:08,160
Speaker 1: seem like what I did was wrong and what other

2228
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:11,600
Speaker 1: people did was super validated, even though those chances and

2229
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 1: in those situations might lead you to the penitentially and dad.

2230
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 1: So I want to change a narrative. And working in media,

2231
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 1: that's one thing I've realized you if you're a media personality,

2232
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a puppet if you're not using

2233
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 1: it to influence and set the narrative according to what

2234
02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: your moral code is. Honestly, So when you see I

2235
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 1: care about it, it's because if I could convince a

2236
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,480
Speaker 1: kid right to say, hey, don't get into these other things,

2237
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 1: that's I never did it, and I won take it

2238
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:45,680
Speaker 1: my way. We see everybody convince them the other way. Yeah,

2239
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:54,800
Speaker 1: I was selling cracking a fourth grade. Seriously, you're gonna say, wait, wait,

2240
02:08:54,840 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 1: wait wait. Of course, of course, doctor Lathan is anybody

2241
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: is bright? Hold on, let me say this. I think

2242
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 1: there's some credence to what Van Lathing is saying. Right,

2243
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 1: he's talking about um what what AC is saying and

2244
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 1: how he's delivering his message. Now, ac says that, you know,

2245
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:19,560
Speaker 1: this is for the kids. I'm telling the kids that, uh,

2246
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 1: they could be like me instead of being like a rapper.

2247
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:27,640
Speaker 1: First thing, when I heard that, I said, okay, but

2248
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 1: I got to examine the information, and for me, man

2249
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:34,000
Speaker 1: with black people me included, we got to make sure

2250
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: that everything we do is in self servants. And so

2251
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 1: when you mentioned the kids and the babies, the first

2252
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:41,120
Speaker 1: thing that cross my mind is what are you doing?

2253
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 1: Okay said, you're sending a message to the babies by

2254
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 1: saying that you got more money than rappers, by saying

2255
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 1: that you most successful than your predecessors. You said that

2256
02:09:57,160 --> 02:10:00,200
Speaker 1: sending a message to the babies. Now, my thing is

2257
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 1: the message you send to the babies is revolving around

2258
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 1: the information that you leaving. Now, what information you leaving?

2259
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: Now it's cool to say, I mean, it's cool to

2260
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:14,880
Speaker 1: say we're doing this and we're doing that. What information

2261
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,680
Speaker 1: are we leaving to these people that do want to

2262
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 1: be like you? Academics? Are what are we leaving to

2263
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:23,040
Speaker 1: these people that want to be like Loon? What am

2264
02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:26,360
Speaker 1: I leaving out there? Have I put footprints in the

2265
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 1: saying for the folk. You know. But as far as

2266
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:33,920
Speaker 1: me saying that, me shitting on other podcasters, it's teaching

2267
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,400
Speaker 1: the babies that they can go further. That's a misrepresentation

2268
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 1: of what's happening. That's self serving me sitting on these dudes.

2269
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 1: But it don't got nothing to do with the babies.

2270
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 1: You can't expect for the babies the trauma bomb with you,

2271
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, and say, oh yeah, they're treating me bad.

2272
02:10:54,040 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like academics. Now, give them some information

2273
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 1: and let them and let the pay of choose itself.

2274
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:02,040
Speaker 1: For going to the schools. I just reached out to

2275
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 1: somebody to say, Yo, get me into the schools. Get

2276
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 1: me into the schools. I'm supposed to be talking to

2277
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 1: some kids or something. You know, Um that's willing to listen.

2278
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 1: You know. I got songs with Kevin Gates out interviews,

2279
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:19,720
Speaker 1: Oh mine, I'm popping podcasts playing of people messed with me,

2280
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: playing of money, real estate, this shit going up. Give

2281
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 1: me in the schools to talk to these people. You

2282
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:29,880
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, because that's what it's about, going

2283
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:32,440
Speaker 1: to tell them. Look when I'm up there talking like that,

2284
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:35,240
Speaker 1: that don't mean then what it's about y'all is being small,

2285
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:40,040
Speaker 1: how smart everybody. I'm baking on me trying to be smart.

2286
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm banking on me that if I don't know the

2287
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 1: information to know where to find it, don't stretch itself

2288
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:47,640
Speaker 1: out because you don't know everything. You know, it's stuff

2289
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:50,360
Speaker 1: to tell the kids to make sure they pushed forward,

2290
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 1: not just say I got more money to him and

2291
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:56,600
Speaker 1: just think that resignates with people, you know, but it's

2292
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:58,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot of healer that needs to be done.

2293
02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 1: Even on my behalf, I'm know what perfect. We got

2294
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:03,280
Speaker 1: a lot of growing to do. So we'll take a

2295
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come right back. I was thinking

2296
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:11,360
Speaker 1: about big meat, you know, with the BMF stuff going on,

2297
02:12:11,560 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 1: you got fifty and doing this thing with that, and um,

2298
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 1: of course, uh someone stars doing this thing and you

2299
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 1: got to they hold a situation. I think that's some

2300
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:24,720
Speaker 1: just a lot going on surrounding. But I was thinking

2301
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 1: about meats in specific, with what meat built right. And

2302
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 1: I got to thinking because you know, with my audience,

2303
02:12:33,880 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 1: sometimes the younger dudes they tap in with me and

2304
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:39,920
Speaker 1: they like, what's up who like? What's good with meats? Like?

2305
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 1: What's up with meats? They were asking me, and it

2306
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:47,520
Speaker 1: took me to a place where I said, Yo, Meat

2307
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 1: is a legend, not only because of oh, you know,

2308
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: the impire they built, that the money they made in

2309
02:12:57,200 --> 02:13:00,080
Speaker 1: the streets. I think they come second. I think what

2310
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 1: makes meet a real dear legend? You know, And I'm

2311
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 1: speaking from from the outside looking. Then we had we

2312
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 1: had a couple of people come down through the city

2313
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 1: that was tied in through you know, through that situation

2314
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 1: and things like that. Um, But what I was speaking about, like,

2315
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: Meat is a legend because of who his opponents was. See,

2316
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,200
Speaker 1: sometimes who you run up against and make you a legend.

2317
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:26,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes even your enemy can make you a legend. Right,

2318
02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: say I get into it with a big dog and

2319
02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 1: I hold my own or or I really or I

2320
02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 1: really win the bat him, I win the war, you

2321
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:41,120
Speaker 1: understand me. But sometimes who you run up against make

2322
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:43,560
Speaker 1: you a legend. And what I mean is Meat ran

2323
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 1: up against didding them. He was bawling harder than them boys.

2324
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:50,400
Speaker 1: So half for what you give meach, you still look

2325
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:53,040
Speaker 1: at didding them a little bit, right, So you say, man,

2326
02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 1: that's because that's how I had to explain it to

2327
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,840
Speaker 1: the youngster, Like, yo, you know, you look at did

2328
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:04,240
Speaker 1: like a billion dollar dude. Jay. These rap dudes, oh them,

2329
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 1: he was bawling harder than them when he was out here.

2330
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:09,800
Speaker 1: So the fact that he was able to be in

2331
02:14:09,880 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 1: the club with some of them people and going harder

2332
02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 1: than them, having more houses in certain states than them,

2333
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 1: having more motion in states than them, you know, more

2334
02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:21,400
Speaker 1: cause outside than them, certain things. And then you look

2335
02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:23,520
Speaker 1: at them and they don't went off to be billionaires.

2336
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:26,520
Speaker 1: You still compare that like and what will meet you

2337
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:29,600
Speaker 1: would have been doing type thing. So he got that

2338
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:35,800
Speaker 1: urban legend surrounded around his name. And I just wanted

2339
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:37,680
Speaker 1: to speak a little bit about that because I think

2340
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:41,880
Speaker 1: oftentimes we look over that, you know, oftentimes we look

2341
02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:46,960
Speaker 1: over the fact that sometimes you don't make yourself a legend,

2342
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:52,520
Speaker 1: your competition make you allegen. You understand me, Like some

2343
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 1: of the people that's in the top fifty players of

2344
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:57,320
Speaker 1: the NBA's because they went up against Jordan, and if

2345
02:14:57,440 --> 02:15:01,720
Speaker 1: Jordan really wasn't there, they probably have more, But dealing

2346
02:15:01,800 --> 02:15:05,440
Speaker 1: with Jordan still made them a legend because of his greatness.

2347
02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 1: Spoke you know volumes. You see what I'm saying, because

2348
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,480
Speaker 1: when you hear like yo, meatro Bowler harder than did it.

2349
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:15,120
Speaker 1: You don't think did in two thousand and two thousand

2350
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:18,160
Speaker 1: and three, seven, two thousand and eight, you thinking did

2351
02:15:18,200 --> 02:15:21,320
Speaker 1: it now? The billion dollars did it? When they say, now,

2352
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:23,440
Speaker 1: man he came up. Man his house was bigger than

2353
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:26,320
Speaker 1: jay Z. You know, certain stuff like that. They ain't

2354
02:15:26,320 --> 02:15:28,960
Speaker 1: look at it jay Z and o' salveam. They're looking

2355
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 1: at the billion dollar jay Z saying yo meat was

2356
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:35,360
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that's

2357
02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. But sometimes your enemy, sometimes the

2358
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:42,840
Speaker 1: people you run up against sometimes do your opponents at competition,

2359
02:15:42,920 --> 02:15:46,040
Speaker 1: they make you who you are. You know, um, Sometimes

2360
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:49,400
Speaker 1: if you're playing in the league without bombs, those stats

2361
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 1: tending to don't don't ring golf or stick as much

2362
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:57,160
Speaker 1: as when the when the league fuller hit us. When

2363
02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:01,160
Speaker 1: the heavyweight division is the heavyweight division, you know what

2364
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Then you really get the way they crown

2365
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:09,040
Speaker 1: with some and sometimes like you see Tyson and holy

2366
02:16:09,120 --> 02:16:11,520
Speaker 1: Field go at it three times or whatever and Tyson

2367
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 1: keep losing. That didn't take none from Tyson because they

2368
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:22,000
Speaker 1: knew what holy Field was. Then again, your opponents sometimes

2369
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 1: it's a reflection of your ability, you understand me. And

2370
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:29,240
Speaker 1: sometimes that's why I can't get mad. Like when I

2371
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:32,560
Speaker 1: make my posts, I do Instagram things, or I talk

2372
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:35,600
Speaker 1: about people in the podcast and they misunderstand it is

2373
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:38,440
Speaker 1: as me coming at them or some kind of be

2374
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 1: for me dissing them when I'm just examining in the game. Right.

2375
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:46,880
Speaker 1: But I can't get mad because the fact that they

2376
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 1: even can see it, the fact that they can it's

2377
02:16:49,720 --> 02:16:54,160
Speaker 1: on their radar, speaks to me. Right. So you know,

2378
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 1: it's important to understand position and understand the concept of

2379
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:01,680
Speaker 1: exactly what you involved with and how to navigate around it.

2380
02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:05,120
Speaker 1: But that's just a that's just a hell of a

2381
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:11,000
Speaker 1: thing I want to speak about. Two Jason Wilson. If

2382
02:17:11,040 --> 02:17:13,760
Speaker 1: you don't know who this guy is, I advise my

2383
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:18,160
Speaker 1: listenership people that rock with me to go get onto

2384
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:22,000
Speaker 1: this guy. This guy's helping me. And this guy is

2385
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:30,240
Speaker 1: a very unique soul, very calm, and you know it's

2386
02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:32,720
Speaker 1: what I get from him, right. You know, with me,

2387
02:17:32,920 --> 02:17:35,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you get calm and the others you get out

2388
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:40,480
Speaker 1: raid and sometimes you get jittery, you know, or what

2389
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:44,600
Speaker 1: perceives to be jittering. Everything I think I have under control.

2390
02:17:44,720 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Nonetheless, this dude his is going around

2391
02:17:48,440 --> 02:17:54,600
Speaker 1: and he's healing black men and black children, which by default,

2392
02:17:54,640 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 1: in my opinion, helps the black woman as well as

2393
02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:01,160
Speaker 1: the better the black women are the better to black

2394
02:18:01,240 --> 02:18:06,560
Speaker 1: men as we are reflection to one another. UM, he

2395
02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:11,160
Speaker 1: lives in a place in this content world. In this world, UM,

2396
02:18:11,959 --> 02:18:15,840
Speaker 1: his content lives in a place that is highly effective

2397
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:21,840
Speaker 1: to say the least, you know. UM. And we reached

2398
02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:25,120
Speaker 1: out to try to pay him to be uh to

2399
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:28,200
Speaker 1: show up on this up their podcast and publicly we

2400
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:32,680
Speaker 1: want to send that invite UM because again my reach

2401
02:18:32,920 --> 02:18:35,120
Speaker 1: is a different kind of reach. These people need to

2402
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:38,920
Speaker 1: heal from people like him, UM as well as like

2403
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,360
Speaker 1: I said, about a lot of these like Jay Morrison,

2404
02:18:41,480 --> 02:18:44,440
Speaker 1: Tony the Clore, you guys, you need to heal about

2405
02:18:44,440 --> 02:18:49,280
Speaker 1: a lot of these people who are UM providing a

2406
02:18:49,440 --> 02:18:54,200
Speaker 1: safe haven for people, but they need to understand their

2407
02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:59,000
Speaker 1: subsections of the black culture. UM. And sometimes I don't

2408
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: think that nation makes it to the ghetto, and so

2409
02:19:03,959 --> 02:19:07,879
Speaker 1: UM it's important that we UM that we make sure

2410
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:09,760
Speaker 1: that people in the ghetto get to hear a little

2411
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:12,800
Speaker 1: bit about what's going on as well as they are

2412
02:19:12,920 --> 02:19:17,800
Speaker 1: in desperate need of healing, of financial literacy, of the

2413
02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:21,080
Speaker 1: ability to to to to get their hands on some

2414
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,840
Speaker 1: information that can affect their lives in day one. UM

2415
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:30,000
Speaker 1: and and and try to further UH their their walk

2416
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 1: of life or further their walk out of the ghetto

2417
02:19:32,400 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 1: or walk out of UH financial hardship. UM. I wanted

2418
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:41,800
Speaker 1: to spend some time looking at this UH Jason Wilson

2419
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:48,520
Speaker 1: interview on Breakfast Club, as it was a very touching thing,

2420
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:51,480
Speaker 1: just to hear dude talking things right. He was given

2421
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:55,080
Speaker 1: certain things just he was giving big brother. It was

2422
02:19:55,240 --> 02:20:02,119
Speaker 1: given understanding and U I had a self reflection moment

2423
02:20:02,360 --> 02:20:05,600
Speaker 1: dealing with it right because I say, long, what do

2424
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:13,119
Speaker 1: you really you know? I don't show emotion. I'm emotionally

2425
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:20,040
Speaker 1: emotionally unavailable, and in some weird way I view that

2426
02:20:20,160 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 1: as a strength. But the more and more I listen

2427
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:29,680
Speaker 1: to Charlemagne van Lathan, this guy, now some of these

2428
02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 1: people that speak about that direct feeling of being emotionally

2429
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:46,680
Speaker 1: unavailable isn't that isn't a strength because the people that

2430
02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:52,600
Speaker 1: love you need you to be available emotionally. The connection

2431
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:56,160
Speaker 1: with the people that love you and the people that

2432
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:59,520
Speaker 1: you love versus the people that you interact with The

2433
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:08,480
Speaker 1: only difference there is the emotional connection. So when you

2434
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 1: set your emotions off by default, you become unavailable to

2435
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:16,400
Speaker 1: the people that love you, which in turns put the

2436
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:19,000
Speaker 1: people that love you in the same category as just

2437
02:21:19,160 --> 02:21:23,160
Speaker 1: the people you interact with. I know that to be

2438
02:21:23,320 --> 02:21:27,360
Speaker 1: the case, but I'm afraid to allow people right because

2439
02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:31,160
Speaker 1: seeing this is vulnerable for me to speak about because

2440
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't speak about these things. But I don't allow

2441
02:21:34,600 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 1: people close enough to bite me. Right, you would never

2442
02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:42,680
Speaker 1: see me, you know, when I went to do bite

2443
02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:47,320
Speaker 1: and take pictures close to the tiger. You know, you

2444
02:21:47,680 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 1: won't see me play around with the bear and all

2445
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:52,959
Speaker 1: of this if I get close to one of those things.

2446
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:57,480
Speaker 1: I needed to be put down respectfully, because I don't.

2447
02:21:58,920 --> 02:22:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't allow any thing close enough to hurt me

2448
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:06,760
Speaker 1: when I don't clearly understand the intentions. The problem with

2449
02:22:06,920 --> 02:22:11,600
Speaker 1: that is you will never clearly understand everybody's intentions. So

2450
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:17,040
Speaker 1: therefore you miss you miss opportunities that love, at healing,

2451
02:22:18,040 --> 02:22:20,760
Speaker 1: at bonding, it all kind of things because you keep

2452
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:26,680
Speaker 1: yourself unavailable. But a lot of people, man, and this

2453
02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:29,960
Speaker 1: is why it's good to have these podcasts out here,

2454
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:35,400
Speaker 1: and these content creators it is because it places you

2455
02:22:35,560 --> 02:22:39,840
Speaker 1: in a great scenario to get information from people you respect.

2456
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:44,120
Speaker 1: The good thing about my podcast is it's not forced

2457
02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 1: on anyone. The people that come here to listen to me,

2458
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:50,720
Speaker 1: they respect my mind frame, they respect my outlook, they

2459
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:54,240
Speaker 1: respect what I bring to the game. Nobody's forcing them here.

2460
02:22:54,320 --> 02:22:58,039
Speaker 1: There's no kind of you dig. So it's a beautiful

2461
02:22:58,120 --> 02:23:01,400
Speaker 1: relationship we have. You know, we speak to each other.

2462
02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:03,880
Speaker 1: They listen to me, I listen to them. They come in,

2463
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:07,520
Speaker 1: We go back and forth. We try to learn things.

2464
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:10,920
Speaker 1: I bring things to the YouTube. I bring things it's

2465
02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:13,840
Speaker 1: up there with y'all to try to give game out

2466
02:23:13,879 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 1: over there and help people with things, and bring some

2467
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:19,920
Speaker 1: financial people over there to try to talk to people

2468
02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:25,760
Speaker 1: like it's just unfortunately for me, I'm just not to

2469
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:29,880
Speaker 1: a place where where I'm healed enough or I'm aware

2470
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:37,400
Speaker 1: of how to really navigate my emotions. That's why I

2471
02:23:37,480 --> 02:23:41,760
Speaker 1: shut them off. You see, you just shut them off

2472
02:23:41,879 --> 02:23:44,600
Speaker 1: because you don't know how to work around them. You know.

2473
02:23:45,720 --> 02:23:48,120
Speaker 1: But I'll get by myself and I'll cry. When I

2474
02:23:48,280 --> 02:23:52,359
Speaker 1: was young, I would cry like it's you know, I understand,

2475
02:23:52,520 --> 02:23:55,199
Speaker 1: like you have to let things out right. You gotta

2476
02:23:55,320 --> 02:24:00,320
Speaker 1: let things out. My problem was it's that I would

2477
02:24:00,440 --> 02:24:03,360
Speaker 1: let things out in front of people that I shouldn't

2478
02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:07,680
Speaker 1: let things out in front of. Right now, that's a

2479
02:24:07,800 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 1: true statement, but within that statement also lies you would

2480
02:24:19,720 --> 02:24:22,880
Speaker 1: never know who you could let you let your feelings

2481
02:24:22,879 --> 02:24:25,160
Speaker 1: out in front of. Like you never really know any

2482
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:28,920
Speaker 1: of these things, right, You never really know any of

2483
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 1: these things. But I have to be in a position

2484
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:34,680
Speaker 1: to get with the vad Lathans, to get with the

2485
02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:38,440
Speaker 1: Jason Wilson's, to get with the Charlotte Mains, to get

2486
02:24:38,480 --> 02:24:41,119
Speaker 1: with the people that's talking is kind of talk because

2487
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm directly plugged into the ghetto. You see what I'm saying,

2488
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:49,680
Speaker 1: and they view me a little bit different. They respect

2489
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They don't come listen to me because

2490
02:24:52,440 --> 02:24:55,560
Speaker 1: of the interviews I got they liked. They come to

2491
02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:58,320
Speaker 1: me because what I'm saying it seemed like I understand

2492
02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:00,840
Speaker 1: a little something. So I I gotta get with these

2493
02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:04,320
Speaker 1: people and breathe these gaps, especially for my sake and

2494
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:06,560
Speaker 1: for the people's sake. That thank I'm some and for

2495
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:11,119
Speaker 1: the people's sake. This listening, you see, because I'm telling y'all, man,

2496
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:15,119
Speaker 1: I'm not in a position where everything is peaches and cream.

2497
02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't I'm emotionally unavailable, and I know that's a

2498
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:21,000
Speaker 1: detriment to the people that love me. I know this

2499
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 1: to be the case. So what I'm saying, but let's

2500
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:25,760
Speaker 1: look at a little bit of an interview and see

2501
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:29,800
Speaker 1: what's going on significant other's emotion When he comes to you,

2502
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:32,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to open up, he's trying to become comprehensive

2503
02:25:32,879 --> 02:25:35,200
Speaker 1: and whole. The worst thing a woman could do is

2504
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 1: shut him down or I'm he was that. In communication

2505
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:40,480
Speaker 1: with my wife, I try to read the room. How

2506
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:42,640
Speaker 1: is she feeling today? Is this a good time for

2507
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:44,959
Speaker 1: me to share with her? How all of my emotions?

2508
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:48,280
Speaker 1: That would it overload her? And so instead of U

2509
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:51,320
Speaker 1: sometimes when you become emotionally free, when you break free

2510
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:56,480
Speaker 1: from emotional incarceration, we can come home and who already

2511
02:25:56,640 --> 02:26:03,000
Speaker 1: you heard what he said emotional and conserration, And these

2512
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:09,520
Speaker 1: words are carefully placed in these conversations. He understands the

2513
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:14,320
Speaker 1: impact of that phrase for the people that is in

2514
02:26:14,480 --> 02:26:17,080
Speaker 1: that part of the life where they can catch things

2515
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:21,440
Speaker 1: like that, right, Because in a weird way, what I

2516
02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:27,680
Speaker 1: just explained to you is me being emotionally accoscerated, right,

2517
02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:30,800
Speaker 1: my feelings, I lock them away. I tuck them away.

2518
02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:34,840
Speaker 1: It's dangerous while I come from and how you're feelings

2519
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:41,120
Speaker 1: outright out front. It's stupid to do so, you know, um,

2520
02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:45,959
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, we gotta we gotta

2521
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:48,360
Speaker 1: spend some more time on that. Just that phrase was

2522
02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:52,600
Speaker 1: so deep. He had a heavy day. And so I've

2523
02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:56,800
Speaker 1: learned to use combat communication to read excuse me, read

2524
02:26:56,879 --> 02:26:59,560
Speaker 1: my wife, read my son. You know he's quiet today.

2525
02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:01,600
Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Instead of yelling at him?

2526
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:05,360
Speaker 1: Have you ever misread them? Oh? Yeah, man, just recently

2527
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:09,120
Speaker 1: in all transparency. Man, you know, two days ago, I

2528
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:11,440
Speaker 1: had to walk about two hours here. It took me

2529
02:27:11,480 --> 02:27:14,440
Speaker 1: a long time to reset back to norm because it

2530
02:27:14,600 --> 02:27:16,640
Speaker 1: was a challenging week for my wife. Me and my

2531
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:20,320
Speaker 1: wife is just being married. Conflict a rise. Then being

2532
02:27:20,360 --> 02:27:23,120
Speaker 1: a parent. Man, It hurts as a father because I

2533
02:27:23,240 --> 02:27:25,320
Speaker 1: love my children and I want to be the best

2534
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:28,520
Speaker 1: dad I can be at all times. And I misread

2535
02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:32,199
Speaker 1: my son's demeanor sometimes, you know, or my daughter's words,

2536
02:27:32,320 --> 02:27:34,560
Speaker 1: you know. And you know sometimes when you wear your

2537
02:27:34,600 --> 02:27:37,560
Speaker 1: heart on the sleeve, someone just doing this that you

2538
02:27:37,640 --> 02:27:39,440
Speaker 1: can hurt you. It doesn't mean they were trying to

2539
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:42,480
Speaker 1: hurt you. They were just flicking their hands, And yeah,

2540
02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:45,320
Speaker 1: I misread at times, you know. But the biggest thing

2541
02:27:45,440 --> 02:27:49,240
Speaker 1: is a parent I've learned is to always reconcile immediately,

2542
02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:52,280
Speaker 1: like I say, I'm sorry a lot to my child. Yeah.

2543
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:55,280
Speaker 1: Now I want to ask you about for women who

2544
02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:57,720
Speaker 1: are dealing with a man who may be experiencing trauma

2545
02:27:57,920 --> 02:28:02,160
Speaker 1: or doesn't identify ways that he can improve his own communication.

2546
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:04,200
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for women that have to

2547
02:28:04,280 --> 02:28:07,720
Speaker 1: deal with that. My wife a lot of people ask

2548
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:10,040
Speaker 1: her that because it was all new for us, you know.

2549
02:28:10,120 --> 02:28:11,840
Speaker 1: And so the first thing I would say is that

2550
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:14,360
Speaker 1: we as men, we not only have to unlearn what

2551
02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:16,560
Speaker 1: we've been conditioned to believe a man is, but also

2552
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:18,800
Speaker 1: our women. And we have to give our wives and

2553
02:28:18,879 --> 02:28:21,760
Speaker 1: our women the grace and the space needed to do so,

2554
02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:24,240
Speaker 1: because you've been also programmed to see a man in

2555
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:26,120
Speaker 1: a certain way. My wife had never seen a man

2556
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:29,320
Speaker 1: crying to me, you know. And so that's Number one,

2557
02:28:29,480 --> 02:28:32,440
Speaker 1: is to unlearn what you've been taught to believe. Number two,

2558
02:28:32,720 --> 02:28:36,840
Speaker 1: never impassively dismiss your husband or your significant other's emotion

2559
02:28:37,240 --> 02:28:39,200
Speaker 1: when he comes to you he's trying to open up,

2560
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 1: he's trying to become comprehensive and whole. The worst thing

2561
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 1: a woman can do is shut him down or I'm busy.

2562
02:28:45,080 --> 02:28:47,360
Speaker 1: Can I come back to that when you see that

2563
02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:50,560
Speaker 1: door opening, like okay, cool, he's allowing me access to

2564
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:55,599
Speaker 1: that heart. And then lastly is to listen without expectation.

2565
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:58,280
Speaker 1: That's what she would saying. She says, listen to your

2566
02:28:58,400 --> 02:29:02,160
Speaker 1: husband's or your significant this heart like it's your girlfriend.

2567
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Be slow to speak, quick to listen. And that's what

2568
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:09,040
Speaker 1: she would say. And it's amazing how many of you

2569
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:14,160
Speaker 1: know when I hear start things like this, I'd be

2570
02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:20,440
Speaker 1: really wondering, like the cain't be signing unreachable, like not real,

2571
02:29:20,600 --> 02:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Like I ain't never met somebody to think like that

2572
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:29,280
Speaker 1: like a woman. Right. I run across women all the time. Right,

2573
02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm a high you know, certain kind of individual like

2574
02:29:32,400 --> 02:29:36,959
Speaker 1: so um, but I ain't never heard no woman talk

2575
02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:39,360
Speaker 1: like you know, Hey, I want to listen to you

2576
02:29:39,520 --> 02:29:41,800
Speaker 1: and be I want to be slow to speak when

2577
02:29:41,879 --> 02:29:44,280
Speaker 1: you're saying things. And I want to make sure that

2578
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:46,800
Speaker 1: when you know, you feel like a man and you

2579
02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:50,920
Speaker 1: able to exhibit your man abilities. And I've never seen that,

2580
02:29:52,680 --> 02:29:54,959
Speaker 1: And that's why I gotta dig into that a little

2581
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:59,600
Speaker 1: more when we speak. You know, um, is this is

2582
02:29:59,680 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 1: this available in people? But do you have to play

2583
02:30:02,440 --> 02:30:05,160
Speaker 1: a part in unlocking it? Is it something we should

2584
02:30:05,200 --> 02:30:08,280
Speaker 1: expect soon as on the walk up? Like does things

2585
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:11,640
Speaker 1: have to evolve into that place? Because for me, it

2586
02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:15,560
Speaker 1: sounds like, Yo, you're saying that, like that's there's a

2587
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:25,040
Speaker 1: woman so you you you're saying there's a woman that

2588
02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:28,960
Speaker 1: says that she want to hear the man's point of

2589
02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:32,800
Speaker 1: view and she won't. You know, I wonder, I wonder

2590
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:35,520
Speaker 1: what do we have to play a role in unlocking

2591
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 1: that in our woman? Or does our woman? Should we

2592
02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 1: expect our woman to have a certain level of um

2593
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:47,320
Speaker 1: all you know already have these things in place. That's

2594
02:30:47,320 --> 02:30:49,760
Speaker 1: a that's a question I would have right at that point,

2595
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:55,040
Speaker 1: Like I mean, because to me, that sounds unattainable. I

2596
02:30:55,080 --> 02:30:57,760
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the lake I'm in or whatever

2597
02:30:57,840 --> 02:31:00,920
Speaker 1: they're saying, like, I don't know, but you know, to me,

2598
02:31:01,480 --> 02:31:04,960
Speaker 1: the woman like that sounds unattainable. And I don't know

2599
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:09,360
Speaker 1: that I don't know any of that statue, especially during

2600
02:31:09,360 --> 02:31:12,280
Speaker 1: a pandemic. Now, let me let me say this. Maybe

2601
02:31:12,520 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 1: maybe there's some of that statue that I know, but

2602
02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:20,879
Speaker 1: maybe that's just not Maybe there's other things that don't

2603
02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:23,600
Speaker 1: appeal to me as much as I would like for

2604
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:26,800
Speaker 1: me to be in a serious relationship with someone. When

2605
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm speaking about it, is that total, that that whole

2606
02:31:29,959 --> 02:31:33,520
Speaker 1: thing you know, that's you know, it sounds like you.

2607
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just don't sound like it's obtainable

2608
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:39,240
Speaker 1: to me. I think I was receiving a lot of

2609
02:31:39,320 --> 02:31:42,600
Speaker 1: messages from men. They weren't scared of dying from COVID,

2610
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:45,880
Speaker 1: but the thought of them having to stay alone with

2611
02:31:45,959 --> 02:31:48,400
Speaker 1: their own emotions and everything they were dealing with and

2612
02:31:48,560 --> 02:31:50,560
Speaker 1: not being able to escape to the game, to the

2613
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:53,520
Speaker 1: club or anything, it was tearing them apart. And they

2614
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 1: were like, man, I need to learn how to really

2615
02:31:55,720 --> 02:31:58,640
Speaker 1: not only identify these emotions but release them. But I said,

2616
02:31:58,680 --> 02:32:01,039
Speaker 1: you also need to know how to allow your wife

2617
02:32:01,160 --> 02:32:04,000
Speaker 1: to help you through that process. Since you brought up COVID,

2618
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,440
Speaker 1: what are some of the challenges that you've had with

2619
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:10,760
Speaker 1: Union since COVID. I'm sure things have shifted majorly. We

2620
02:32:10,879 --> 02:32:13,840
Speaker 1: haven't been able to train to date with the young boys,

2621
02:32:13,879 --> 02:32:19,160
Speaker 1: and so it's it's very challenging, and then dealing with

2622
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:21,080
Speaker 1: the city. You know, we've got a new building and

2623
02:32:21,160 --> 02:32:23,200
Speaker 1: then we had to shift it over from a school,

2624
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 1: the use from a school to a nonprofit reck center.

2625
02:32:26,120 --> 02:32:28,959
Speaker 1: So right now we're going before the Board of Zoning

2626
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:31,840
Speaker 1: and Appeals just to try to They need us to

2627
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:34,920
Speaker 1: have one hundred and twenty parking spaces, but the parking

2628
02:32:34,959 --> 02:32:38,240
Speaker 1: lot only has twenty nine and we don't we don't

2629
02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:39,920
Speaker 1: use it for that. So but the City of Detroit

2630
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:43,000
Speaker 1: is working with us to rectify this because our case

2631
02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:46,199
Speaker 1: is different. We can only file as a nonprofit rec center,

2632
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:48,920
Speaker 1: but we're just a nonprofit and so it's it's been

2633
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:52,520
Speaker 1: very challenging, and we talk to our boys and it's

2634
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:55,600
Speaker 1: difficult not to have that safe space where you can

2635
02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:58,400
Speaker 1: talk about what's going on. And it's so effective and

2636
02:32:58,879 --> 02:33:02,840
Speaker 1: it's like one of my favorite, my favorite evaluations is

2637
02:33:02,879 --> 02:33:06,400
Speaker 1: that over seventy nine of our recruits, almost eighty percent

2638
02:33:06,840 --> 02:33:10,440
Speaker 1: improve their grade point average without tutoring by one letter grade.

2639
02:33:10,920 --> 02:33:13,440
Speaker 1: And that's simply by allowing them to express what's going

2640
02:33:13,520 --> 02:33:15,800
Speaker 1: on in their hearts and their minds, and they're able

2641
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:19,720
Speaker 1: to reset so quickly. Can you can you break down.

2642
02:33:20,320 --> 02:33:24,359
Speaker 1: What is emotional incarceration. It is a see that council

2643
02:33:24,480 --> 02:33:28,240
Speaker 1: boy here, you see that counc in Charlemagne. You see

2644
02:33:28,280 --> 02:33:31,320
Speaker 1: how that hit me and I stopped it. Same thing

2645
02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:34,080
Speaker 1: with him. He probably like, damn, that's hitting hard, and

2646
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:36,680
Speaker 1: come back to it. I keep telling you there's a

2647
02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 1: there's a frequency of this universe, and you don't have

2648
02:33:41,320 --> 02:33:43,480
Speaker 1: to know somebody, you don't have to be next to

2649
02:33:43,560 --> 02:33:47,360
Speaker 1: him every day, but there's a frequency that people operate on.

2650
02:33:47,560 --> 02:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be on the same frequency. Impose imprisonment

2651
02:33:53,680 --> 02:33:57,359
Speaker 1: a mental prison that a man confines his non masculine

2652
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:00,400
Speaker 1: emotions and his true heart from the world, keep him

2653
02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:03,920
Speaker 1: from hurting others and even himself. And was interesting about Wow,

2654
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 1: that's what I just explained. We can admit this. There

2655
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:10,200
Speaker 1: is no door keeping us locked in. We never I've

2656
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:13,400
Speaker 1: never seen this. And because we have to face or

2657
02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:18,080
Speaker 1: acknowledge feelings or traumas or emotional pain that we don't

2658
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:20,800
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with, we choose to stay in there. And

2659
02:34:20,920 --> 02:34:23,320
Speaker 1: a lot of good men are tired of being bad guys.

2660
02:34:23,440 --> 02:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Even myself. Man, I I would suppressed all of my emotions,

2661
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, And because that's what I was taught and

2662
02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:34,840
Speaker 1: because of that, I didn't even I told you guys

2663
02:34:34,879 --> 02:34:37,200
Speaker 1: that were you know, for me what it was. Um,

2664
02:34:37,440 --> 02:34:42,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily you know what I was taught it was. Um,

2665
02:34:43,120 --> 02:34:46,879
Speaker 1: it was more so what I was did to protect

2666
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:51,080
Speaker 1: myself because I was dealing with results. You know, I'm

2667
02:34:51,120 --> 02:34:55,200
Speaker 1: dealing with results of people doing certain things, um, outside

2668
02:34:55,240 --> 02:35:00,520
Speaker 1: of the normal and and unwarranted things. U when my

2669
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 1: feelings was wide open, right and accepting of things. And

2670
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:08,600
Speaker 1: I think that people that love me and uh, I

2671
02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:11,760
Speaker 1: think that people that loved me really pay the price

2672
02:35:11,920 --> 02:35:15,280
Speaker 1: for some of the things that I've encountered along my journey.

2673
02:35:15,959 --> 02:35:18,960
Speaker 1: And at some point I'm gonna have to fix those things.

2674
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:23,000
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna owe some people some apologies and some

2675
02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:28,040
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things, man, because because you know,

2676
02:35:29,320 --> 02:35:32,000
Speaker 1: all things considered, I talk well, I make a lot

2677
02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:38,680
Speaker 1: of money, I own a lot of things upright, independent read,

2678
02:35:39,040 --> 02:35:41,600
Speaker 1: take care of the kids, Mama, love me, love Mama.

2679
02:35:45,160 --> 02:35:50,320
Speaker 1: But I ain't know where near h demand that I

2680
02:35:50,640 --> 02:35:52,880
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want to be to call myself like

2681
02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:55,120
Speaker 1: a good man. You know what I'm saying. There's a

2682
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:59,440
Speaker 1: lot of things that's still broken under their you know,

2683
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:03,040
Speaker 1: half of it. I'm afraid to fix and feel that

2684
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:06,920
Speaker 1: it affect other things. Right, you know, you try to

2685
02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:10,240
Speaker 1: fix your emotions and be nice and then like I'm

2686
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,879
Speaker 1: dealing with results. I've seen soon as homeboards change their life,

2687
02:36:14,200 --> 02:36:19,280
Speaker 1: that's when they get killed. I've seen that. I'm dealing

2688
02:36:19,320 --> 02:36:24,440
Speaker 1: with that. I've seen what soon is such as such,

2689
02:36:24,520 --> 02:36:26,560
Speaker 1: get out of jail. Hein doing nothing no more. He

2690
02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:29,720
Speaker 1: doesn't really turn preacher. He's been working. They knock him off.

2691
02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:34,400
Speaker 1: That's why you gotta pull me out the fish tank

2692
02:36:34,480 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 1: for me to stop eating like a piranha. You know

2693
02:36:38,680 --> 02:36:41,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because in the fish tank, this's the

2694
02:36:41,680 --> 02:36:46,920
Speaker 1: only way to survive. Be real aggressive on what you

2695
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:50,039
Speaker 1: gotta do, and do it without any hesitation, and don't

2696
02:36:50,080 --> 02:36:56,320
Speaker 1: think twice. Unfortunately, your your emotions can't be involved because

2697
02:36:56,360 --> 02:36:58,760
Speaker 1: when you leave with your hard, you get your head bus.

2698
02:36:59,560 --> 02:37:02,680
Speaker 1: You gotta leave with your head to keep your heart,

2699
02:37:03,320 --> 02:37:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, protected, because you leave with your heart and

2700
02:37:06,840 --> 02:37:10,880
Speaker 1: get your head bus. My children, bro, I didn't know

2701
02:37:10,920 --> 02:37:14,560
Speaker 1: how to love myself, and that self hate caused me

2702
02:37:14,680 --> 02:37:16,960
Speaker 1: not to really be available for my wife. And as

2703
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:20,680
Speaker 1: I shared yesterday at the Mental Wealth Expo, she had

2704
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:25,400
Speaker 1: five mischaracters and I was checked out. I didn't know

2705
02:37:25,480 --> 02:37:28,680
Speaker 1: how to express the hurt or anything, and that to

2706
02:37:28,800 --> 02:37:31,280
Speaker 1: this day it bothers me. We should say we had

2707
02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:35,040
Speaker 1: five mischaracters. No, I say she had and I should

2708
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:37,400
Speaker 1: have been there, but I was emotionally checked out. But

2709
02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:41,200
Speaker 1: now it's it's truly a blessing to be able to

2710
02:37:41,840 --> 02:37:44,160
Speaker 1: drop my guard with the woman who really holds my

2711
02:37:44,280 --> 02:37:46,720
Speaker 1: heart with care. You know, the things you see in

2712
02:37:46,800 --> 02:37:48,840
Speaker 1: regards of your wife was so relatable, and it's the

2713
02:37:48,920 --> 02:37:51,680
Speaker 1: same reason I got myself together too, because you know,

2714
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:54,480
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like my pops. And you know,

2715
02:37:54,560 --> 02:37:57,440
Speaker 1: I saw the pain my pops caused my mom, you

2716
02:37:57,520 --> 02:37:58,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I saw how you know,

2717
02:37:59,240 --> 02:38:02,080
Speaker 1: them getting the vo It's affected the family. So why

2718
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:06,360
Speaker 1: are so many men just comfortable with saying, you know what, yeah,

2719
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm married, but I'm gonna still cheat them and still

2720
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:11,960
Speaker 1: have a whole mother family out here? Another girl like,

2721
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:14,640
Speaker 1: why is that okay? You think that something? It's a

2722
02:38:14,840 --> 02:38:19,360
Speaker 1: feckless attempt for affirmation, it's affectless attempt for peace. And

2723
02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:24,080
Speaker 1: so you know, again we taught you know, masculinity as

2724
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:26,840
Speaker 1: well being a man that's having multiple women wife. My

2725
02:38:26,959 --> 02:38:30,200
Speaker 1: father told me I was going to him proud, saying, Hey, Dad,

2726
02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm about to engage to Nicole. He said, why the

2727
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:36,720
Speaker 1: hell you want to do that? My dad told me

2728
02:38:37,040 --> 02:38:38,840
Speaker 1: when I come front of my dad about cheating my mom,

2729
02:38:38,879 --> 02:38:41,120
Speaker 1: my dad said, oh, you only got one girlfriend? Is

2730
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:44,120
Speaker 1: it one day you gonna understand? Hey? And I told

2731
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:46,360
Speaker 1: my dad. I told him, I said, I don't want

2732
02:38:46,360 --> 02:38:48,560
Speaker 1: to end up like you. You're broke. You're still having

2733
02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:52,000
Speaker 1: to cut hair, Dad in your sixties because you've had

2734
02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:54,680
Speaker 1: three marriages that failed because you couldn't have any sexual

2735
02:38:54,760 --> 02:38:57,840
Speaker 1: self control. But when we when I allowed my father

2736
02:38:57,959 --> 02:39:00,320
Speaker 1: developed Parkinson's, I finally was able to get a relationship

2737
02:39:00,320 --> 02:39:02,600
Speaker 1: with him because he couldn't go anywhere. So when we

2738
02:39:02,760 --> 02:39:05,720
Speaker 1: finally sat and talked, he shared with me the pain

2739
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:09,160
Speaker 1: of growing up and feeling lacking in so many areas

2740
02:39:09,240 --> 02:39:11,920
Speaker 1: he was called to preach. He told guy, there's nowhere

2741
02:39:11,959 --> 02:39:13,920
Speaker 1: on earth I'm gonna do that because he came up

2742
02:39:13,959 --> 02:39:16,440
Speaker 1: in the sixties when the cops cracked down on the

2743
02:39:16,520 --> 02:39:19,680
Speaker 1: pimps in Detroit, many of them became pastors. So he said,

2744
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:22,080
Speaker 1: see that it's a lot of game, and that I

2745
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:24,480
Speaker 1: would have lived right there for a minute. The last

2746
02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:26,320
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna do is be one of these guys.

2747
02:39:26,879 --> 02:39:29,360
Speaker 1: But because of that, he never really knew how to

2748
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:32,200
Speaker 1: express what he was going through and what he felt.

2749
02:39:32,320 --> 02:39:34,560
Speaker 1: And that's why sharing battle cry too. As where we

2750
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:36,760
Speaker 1: are now as men, we got to go back and

2751
02:39:36,879 --> 02:39:39,160
Speaker 1: reach and help our fathers learn how to process what

2752
02:39:39,240 --> 02:39:41,840
Speaker 1: they're dealing with. So you gotta think my grandfather, not

2753
02:39:42,040 --> 02:39:46,400
Speaker 1: my great grandfather, a great great grandfather. My grandfather was lynched,

2754
02:39:47,160 --> 02:39:50,480
Speaker 1: beating and lynched, and then after his lynching, my mother's

2755
02:39:50,560 --> 02:39:54,000
Speaker 1: family was terrorized by the police to ensure that none

2756
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:56,680
Speaker 1: of them would ever feel like they're equal to white people.

2757
02:39:56,720 --> 02:40:00,680
Speaker 1: In Fort Pierce, Florida. I saw that trauma t throughout

2758
02:40:03,080 --> 02:40:08,320
Speaker 1: and until I allowed my dad that freedom to be human,

2759
02:40:09,080 --> 02:40:11,360
Speaker 1: I didn't hear him say he loved me until thirty

2760
02:40:11,400 --> 02:40:15,400
Speaker 1: seven years of age. Think about our great grandfathers, or

2761
02:40:15,480 --> 02:40:18,600
Speaker 1: those who were enslaved, who had to see their children

2762
02:40:19,680 --> 02:40:22,840
Speaker 1: sold to the highest bidder like puppies, but couldn't really

2763
02:40:22,920 --> 02:40:25,760
Speaker 1: express that grief because they had the families still with them,

2764
02:40:25,840 --> 02:40:27,640
Speaker 1: the few kids that they had left to protect and

2765
02:40:27,720 --> 02:40:31,039
Speaker 1: provide for. They didn't have time to think about the hurt,

2766
02:40:31,120 --> 02:40:33,360
Speaker 1: the pain and everything else that came along with watching

2767
02:40:33,400 --> 02:40:36,840
Speaker 1: your children sold in the slavery or your wife being raped,

2768
02:40:37,560 --> 02:40:40,840
Speaker 1: and so pass that on through son, through son, through son.

2769
02:40:41,360 --> 02:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Now you got men who walk around with their capacities here.

2770
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:48,320
Speaker 1: No room for patients, no room for reconciliation, no room

2771
02:40:48,440 --> 02:40:52,720
Speaker 1: to resolve conflict. We're really hurting. We're hurting so bad

2772
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:55,920
Speaker 1: that you could bump into me and I will shoot

2773
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:59,200
Speaker 1: and kill you. You know, we talked about on this

2774
02:40:59,360 --> 02:41:02,160
Speaker 1: up that Paul kids, me Lt and Big Free shout

2775
02:41:02,200 --> 02:41:06,000
Speaker 1: out to them brothers, um about the hatred that you

2776
02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:09,800
Speaker 1: gotta have. Um, were talking about the Nipsey hustle r

2777
02:41:09,959 --> 02:41:14,640
Speaker 1: p nilp um and in particular, not that situation, but

2778
02:41:14,760 --> 02:41:18,600
Speaker 1: just the hatred that black men have in them. You know,

2779
02:41:18,959 --> 02:41:21,680
Speaker 1: certain things gotta happen, like you gotta have a certain

2780
02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:28,360
Speaker 1: level to man, you know what I mean. Um, But

2781
02:41:28,720 --> 02:41:32,280
Speaker 1: something he said that struck me. He said that a

2782
02:41:32,400 --> 02:41:38,760
Speaker 1: lot of men operate without room to resolve anything. And

2783
02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:42,600
Speaker 1: that is that's literally been my attitude right coming from

2784
02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:44,880
Speaker 1: the hood, your attitude. I ain't going for nothing. Man,

2785
02:41:44,959 --> 02:41:48,280
Speaker 1: ain't nothing going on. We're going for man. They throwing

2786
02:41:48,400 --> 02:41:51,760
Speaker 1: in man, I'm pitching and kitchen man ain't nothing when

2787
02:41:52,120 --> 02:41:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, so you come, you have a certain level

2788
02:41:54,760 --> 02:42:00,400
Speaker 1: of aggression to to not being fucked over, afraid of fail,

2789
02:42:00,480 --> 02:42:10,920
Speaker 1: you're afraid of, especially any kind of emotional equity. You know,

2790
02:42:11,080 --> 02:42:14,760
Speaker 1: you duck that. You know, I'm literally come from a

2791
02:42:14,840 --> 02:42:17,360
Speaker 1: place where literally a dude to meet you and tell

2792
02:42:17,480 --> 02:42:19,160
Speaker 1: you because I didn't see it, and I see it,

2793
02:42:19,280 --> 02:42:23,600
Speaker 1: we're not going for nothing, like we're not going for nothing.

2794
02:42:23,840 --> 02:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing going on, right, And dude, stand on that.

2795
02:42:27,879 --> 02:42:31,400
Speaker 1: That mean a mistake gonna get treated like beef over

2796
02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:38,000
Speaker 1: this way and that's a problem. Now. That ain't normal,

2797
02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:47,960
Speaker 1: but it's necessary. And nobody's speaking about the necessity, right,

2798
02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:50,360
Speaker 1: And I think they got to come down a little

2799
02:42:50,360 --> 02:42:54,680
Speaker 1: bit more to the ghetto to hear about the necessity

2800
02:42:55,879 --> 02:43:01,480
Speaker 1: of the behavior in the neighborhood. The whole neighborhood reacts

2801
02:43:01,520 --> 02:43:05,360
Speaker 1: away if I say, you know what I'm on, I'm

2802
02:43:05,640 --> 02:43:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm on a loving kick today and I'm loving and

2803
02:43:08,040 --> 02:43:12,200
Speaker 1: loving and loving, and you know, I'm welcoming to everyone.

2804
02:43:12,320 --> 02:43:15,240
Speaker 1: And you know, because of the lack of resources and

2805
02:43:15,400 --> 02:43:20,000
Speaker 1: influences the behavior. So when I do leave my refrigerator

2806
02:43:20,080 --> 02:43:22,440
Speaker 1: open to the neighborhood. They won't leave me a hot

2807
02:43:22,520 --> 02:43:27,000
Speaker 1: dog to eat. They won't leave me none because they

2808
02:43:27,160 --> 02:43:29,760
Speaker 1: lack of resources. They got to get everything they can

2809
02:43:29,879 --> 02:43:36,560
Speaker 1: get scratching and clawing. But it's it's somewhere along the lines.

2810
02:43:36,680 --> 02:43:39,520
Speaker 1: We gotta be able to feed information to them people

2811
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:43,879
Speaker 1: because people like me, I can grab the information when

2812
02:43:43,920 --> 02:43:47,480
Speaker 1: you had it, Yeah, when you g coldening and putting

2813
02:43:47,520 --> 02:43:51,320
Speaker 1: it in books and badly saying something you really donna

2814
02:43:51,400 --> 02:43:54,560
Speaker 1: drop this book in this interview of accident because it

2815
02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:56,840
Speaker 1: was a good interview, you really don't like giving that

2816
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:02,000
Speaker 1: book out. I got that one too, So I can

2817
02:44:02,080 --> 02:44:05,720
Speaker 1: get the information from the driplets you you leave around.

2818
02:44:08,040 --> 02:44:12,080
Speaker 1: The problem is sixty percent of us don't don't don't

2819
02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:17,080
Speaker 1: operate that way. Seventy percent of us don't know how

2820
02:44:17,120 --> 02:44:21,120
Speaker 1: to pick the driplets up, don't know how to get

2821
02:44:21,200 --> 02:44:24,160
Speaker 1: the crumbs off the bread and save them up and

2822
02:44:24,400 --> 02:44:32,120
Speaker 1: rebake the bread. All they't know how to do is

2823
02:44:33,320 --> 02:44:36,440
Speaker 1: number one, the number one thing, and together is survived.

2824
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't have the luxury of time to go and

2825
02:44:40,440 --> 02:44:43,240
Speaker 1: sit in a simber now with Jay Morrison and Tony

2826
02:44:43,320 --> 02:44:47,199
Speaker 1: to close. I don't have a luxury of the time

2827
02:44:48,200 --> 02:44:52,000
Speaker 1: to go to the mental health expo with the with

2828
02:44:52,200 --> 02:44:56,520
Speaker 1: the big home in Charlemagne and Jason Wilson. I don't

2829
02:44:56,560 --> 02:44:59,080
Speaker 1: know where the next meal coming from. They just shot

2830
02:44:59,240 --> 02:45:02,080
Speaker 1: my cousin, and I don't know if my mama got

2831
02:45:02,200 --> 02:45:07,640
Speaker 1: COVID or not. It's too much going on in the neighborhood.

2832
02:45:07,680 --> 02:45:11,400
Speaker 1: The resources are so thin. People are not able to focus. Yo,

2833
02:45:11,520 --> 02:45:15,720
Speaker 1: you saying, drive forty five miles, stay two three hours

2834
02:45:16,160 --> 02:45:22,480
Speaker 1: drive back. I don't have that luxury when I drive there.

2835
02:45:22,520 --> 02:45:24,280
Speaker 1: They don't broke in my house. They know I ain't

2836
02:45:24,320 --> 02:45:26,360
Speaker 1: got but one cod on nobody to live with me.

2837
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Where do I find it? Did they promo with loon

2838
02:45:32,280 --> 02:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Did they get loon on there? What about? Do they

2839
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:39,600
Speaker 1: have you know bullshit? You know certain people you know

2840
02:45:39,879 --> 02:45:42,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a different thing. And then you can't have

2841
02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:46,400
Speaker 1: us up there, the ones that they reached the hood

2842
02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:50,320
Speaker 1: but really not interested in this thing. Right. Some of

2843
02:45:50,440 --> 02:45:52,400
Speaker 1: us ain't at a place in our life where healing

2844
02:45:52,480 --> 02:45:56,680
Speaker 1: this on the agenda because we don't see the hurt

2845
02:45:56,760 --> 02:45:58,760
Speaker 1: of the people that love us. I got a lot

2846
02:45:58,800 --> 02:46:03,760
Speaker 1: of women that love me, my mama, my old lady,

2847
02:46:03,879 --> 02:46:08,760
Speaker 1: my family, my people, and my kids mean the world

2848
02:46:08,840 --> 02:46:13,960
Speaker 1: to me, I'm interested in haling whatever emotional barriers that

2849
02:46:14,560 --> 02:46:19,160
Speaker 1: are there in hopes of communicating and loving me for

2850
02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:23,039
Speaker 1: the right way. But you can't get one of us

2851
02:46:23,120 --> 02:46:24,840
Speaker 1: for the sake of our reach. Just like, yo, this

2852
02:46:25,040 --> 02:46:27,280
Speaker 1: dude the hood listening to him, let's putting him there

2853
02:46:27,360 --> 02:46:29,880
Speaker 1: because he's gonna sit on stage talk a little bit

2854
02:46:30,160 --> 02:46:33,000
Speaker 1: and get out of there. You gotta have somebody to

2855
02:46:33,160 --> 02:46:37,080
Speaker 1: dig up under that and know what it's like. Right. Nonetheless,

2856
02:46:40,120 --> 02:46:43,279
Speaker 1: this game, man, this game. I love how this information

2857
02:46:43,480 --> 02:46:46,480
Speaker 1: is starting to pull out into the world. Man, and

2858
02:46:46,600 --> 02:46:49,280
Speaker 1: we're able to help each other in one hand wash

2859
02:46:49,400 --> 02:46:52,440
Speaker 1: the other and both wash the face. You know, when

2860
02:46:52,520 --> 02:47:01,680
Speaker 1: it comes down to reaching people, understanding the behavior of people,

2861
02:47:01,680 --> 02:47:06,640
Speaker 1: because black people are not monolithic, the subcategory is going on.

2862
02:47:08,120 --> 02:47:10,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's the guy like me. That's the guy

2863
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:13,480
Speaker 1: like Bank, that's the guy like Charlemagne, that's the guy

2864
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:16,920
Speaker 1: like Jason Wilson, that's the guy like uh, you know,

2865
02:47:17,720 --> 02:47:20,200
Speaker 1: all kind of like there's so many different kind of

2866
02:47:20,280 --> 02:47:22,920
Speaker 1: people that the makeup makes it what it is. One

2867
02:47:23,040 --> 02:47:29,280
Speaker 1: thing is consistent, though emotions are shunned upon. When you're

2868
02:47:29,360 --> 02:47:32,280
Speaker 1: black and you you come from the neighborhood, that's a fact.

2869
02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:35,120
Speaker 1: Now let's listen to a little more. No, hey, man,

2870
02:47:35,160 --> 02:47:37,760
Speaker 1: what's you know. Excuse me, none of that because we're

2871
02:47:37,959 --> 02:47:40,120
Speaker 1: excuse me, we're hurting it because we taught to suppress

2872
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:43,000
Speaker 1: all of this pain. I told my dad and it

2873
02:47:43,080 --> 02:47:46,199
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to me at the time. He's landing

2874
02:47:46,280 --> 02:47:50,320
Speaker 1: this bad and the Holy Spirit told me, he says,

2875
02:47:50,520 --> 02:47:53,560
Speaker 1: tell your father, thank him for being a great dad.

2876
02:47:54,120 --> 02:47:57,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me. But what my father

2877
02:47:57,120 --> 02:48:00,960
Speaker 1: needed was affirmation. So I linked over to him while

2878
02:48:00,959 --> 02:48:03,560
Speaker 1: he was landing in his bed and I said, I said, Dad,

2879
02:48:03,680 --> 02:48:07,320
Speaker 1: I said, thank you for being a great dad. So

2880
02:48:07,600 --> 02:48:11,240
Speaker 1: I was walking out and I heard him like getting

2881
02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:13,560
Speaker 1: heavy in his breath, and I turned around and I

2882
02:48:13,640 --> 02:48:17,720
Speaker 1: saw the strongest man in my life crying. He finally

2883
02:48:17,800 --> 02:48:21,320
Speaker 1: had a release. And this is a tough one. So

2884
02:48:21,480 --> 02:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I went back over to him. I held his hands

2885
02:48:24,320 --> 02:48:26,960
Speaker 1: and I kissed him on his forehead, and he wouldn't

2886
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:29,200
Speaker 1: let me go, and he says, son, he says, I

2887
02:48:29,360 --> 02:48:34,520
Speaker 1: love you, And that there it removes so many shackles

2888
02:48:35,360 --> 02:48:38,080
Speaker 1: off of me, and it freed me to really live

2889
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:41,120
Speaker 1: from my heart instead of my fears, instead of trying

2890
02:48:41,240 --> 02:48:44,320
Speaker 1: to live up to this limited definition of what a

2891
02:48:44,440 --> 02:48:47,360
Speaker 1: man is. Now I can be a comprehensive man, which

2892
02:48:47,480 --> 02:48:50,680
Speaker 1: is a man who is courageous but also compassionate, strong

2893
02:48:50,800 --> 02:48:54,039
Speaker 1: but sensitive, a man who can boldly but freely live

2894
02:48:54,160 --> 02:48:57,280
Speaker 1: from his heart instead of his fears. How important is

2895
02:48:57,320 --> 02:49:00,280
Speaker 1: it for men to give other men positive affirmation? Because

2896
02:49:00,280 --> 02:49:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, I thought about this after the Mental Wealth

2897
02:49:02,720 --> 02:49:04,720
Speaker 1: Export yesterday because a lot of stuff came up for

2898
02:49:04,800 --> 02:49:06,720
Speaker 1: me when we was on the panel having a conversation.

2899
02:49:06,800 --> 02:49:09,000
Speaker 1: That's why that's why the tids came. Because it's like,

2900
02:49:09,400 --> 02:49:11,160
Speaker 1: just listening to you tell me, oh, I'm proud of you,

2901
02:49:11,240 --> 02:49:14,480
Speaker 1: YadA YadA, I'm like, damn yo, I didn't. I didn't

2902
02:49:14,520 --> 02:49:17,200
Speaker 1: get that the way I wanted to growing up from

2903
02:49:18,120 --> 02:49:20,440
Speaker 1: my father. So even just hearing it from another black

2904
02:49:20,520 --> 02:49:23,640
Speaker 1: man that you respect is like whoa, it gets you

2905
02:49:23,720 --> 02:49:25,360
Speaker 1: emotional or whether we realize that or not, we do

2906
02:49:25,480 --> 02:49:28,160
Speaker 1: that all the time. He let me say this, Charlomagne,

2907
02:49:28,240 --> 02:49:31,879
Speaker 1: Niggas is proud of you, slim like Niggas is proud

2908
02:49:31,920 --> 02:49:36,280
Speaker 1: of Charlemagne the God like what you've evolved into. And

2909
02:49:36,400 --> 02:49:38,800
Speaker 1: turn this thing into bro. And this don't have nothing

2910
02:49:38,800 --> 02:49:41,840
Speaker 1: to do with opportunity because I'm ana wheel my way

2911
02:49:41,920 --> 02:49:47,440
Speaker 1: into my position. That's on God and game. But what Charlemagne,

2912
02:49:47,480 --> 02:49:50,920
Speaker 1: the God has has turned himself into man is is

2913
02:49:51,040 --> 02:49:56,560
Speaker 1: beyond worth worthy of applause, you know when you view

2914
02:49:56,720 --> 02:49:59,119
Speaker 1: someone that could have took that brand. First of all,

2915
02:49:59,200 --> 02:50:02,440
Speaker 1: we gotta understand and what a brand was. The brand

2916
02:50:02,680 --> 02:50:05,600
Speaker 1: was not where it is now. He made a conscious

2917
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:08,920
Speaker 1: decision to switch that over. I see some people flirt

2918
02:50:09,000 --> 02:50:12,080
Speaker 1: with saying that he Now. I think this comes from

2919
02:50:12,120 --> 02:50:15,520
Speaker 1: a real places. As a fellow cancer, we tend not

2920
02:50:15,640 --> 02:50:18,720
Speaker 1: to do things that don't interest us, no matter how

2921
02:50:18,920 --> 02:50:24,960
Speaker 1: detrimental that is, especially when you a complete control of

2922
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:27,600
Speaker 1: which way it heads. You don't have to make a

2923
02:50:27,720 --> 02:50:31,240
Speaker 1: conscious decision, especially when the beef and the ki kaka

2924
02:50:31,879 --> 02:50:34,199
Speaker 1: you know was at all time, how with your world

2925
02:50:34,280 --> 02:50:37,440
Speaker 1: stars and your whatever whatever. Then the world has changed

2926
02:50:37,800 --> 02:50:39,880
Speaker 1: to this point. But you see they let fit to

2927
02:50:40,000 --> 02:50:44,720
Speaker 1: operate in there. People are able to operate them, right,

2928
02:50:44,840 --> 02:50:47,320
Speaker 1: And he's we would have been grandfather then, Like how

2929
02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:50,480
Speaker 1: we're stern them the fact they only started getting that

2930
02:50:50,680 --> 02:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Charlemagne a little bit. It's because he started to change,

2931
02:50:53,760 --> 02:50:56,120
Speaker 1: and that's what they do. Like I was just explaining,

2932
02:50:56,560 --> 02:50:58,840
Speaker 1: and that's something I would speak to him about in

2933
02:50:58,920 --> 02:51:02,039
Speaker 1: an interview, like, how did it feel once you started

2934
02:51:02,080 --> 02:51:06,880
Speaker 1: to make a conscious effort to change and they noticed

2935
02:51:06,920 --> 02:51:10,039
Speaker 1: that you actually care about these things and you actually

2936
02:51:10,200 --> 02:51:12,840
Speaker 1: feel these things when they're being said, And then that's

2937
02:51:12,920 --> 02:51:16,040
Speaker 1: when they want to attack the internet. This place is

2938
02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:20,160
Speaker 1: a weird playground that we all in. Nonetheless, it's less

2939
02:51:20,200 --> 02:51:24,800
Speaker 1: about that and more about bro. If you saw what

2940
02:51:25,040 --> 02:51:27,720
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the Guard has came through, what he's been through,

2941
02:51:27,879 --> 02:51:32,920
Speaker 1: and what he's evolved into, you have a certain level

2942
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:36,640
Speaker 1: of respect for him. I remember listening to Charlemagne back

2943
02:51:36,640 --> 02:51:39,640
Speaker 1: in the day and he would drop certain books. I

2944
02:51:39,680 --> 02:51:42,240
Speaker 1: would go get every book that he would drop, But

2945
02:51:42,400 --> 02:51:45,240
Speaker 1: the books she would drop would be instrumental. Like I

2946
02:51:45,400 --> 02:51:47,800
Speaker 1: remember I read The Subtle Art of Not Giving the

2947
02:51:47,879 --> 02:51:50,360
Speaker 1: Fuck and then he read it and he said something

2948
02:51:50,400 --> 02:51:52,600
Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, see, we own that this is

2949
02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:57,680
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen or something like that. This is way back then.

2950
02:51:59,280 --> 02:52:03,680
Speaker 1: But you know, when to see a black man that's

2951
02:52:04,240 --> 02:52:08,400
Speaker 1: been able to start in help hop media, you know,

2952
02:52:08,879 --> 02:52:12,120
Speaker 1: evolving too now being someone that's moving across the world

2953
02:52:12,240 --> 02:52:16,920
Speaker 1: helping black men right and also trying to help heal

2954
02:52:17,120 --> 02:52:20,920
Speaker 1: black men, trying to amplify that side of healing black

2955
02:52:21,000 --> 02:52:23,360
Speaker 1: men like I had had not for him, I wouldn't

2956
02:52:23,400 --> 02:52:27,680
Speaker 1: have knew this, dude, Jason Wilson. You see, So some

2957
02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:30,680
Speaker 1: kind of way the information is getting to the ghetto. However,

2958
02:52:31,080 --> 02:52:33,959
Speaker 1: the questions right is just gonna be a little bit

2959
02:52:34,080 --> 02:52:38,080
Speaker 1: different coming from the ghetto. You know, it's a little

2960
02:52:38,120 --> 02:52:42,959
Speaker 1: bit different a mindset in regards to what we need

2961
02:52:43,080 --> 02:52:46,359
Speaker 1: to know because it's a lot of assumption that happens

2962
02:52:46,440 --> 02:52:49,040
Speaker 1: when you speak to the masses, and you must assume

2963
02:52:49,120 --> 02:52:52,400
Speaker 1: when you speak to the masses or you'll be ineffective

2964
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:57,120
Speaker 1: in your communication. But you're dealing with specifics when you

2965
02:52:57,240 --> 02:53:00,920
Speaker 1: deal with someone that's carved out a sort of a

2966
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:04,120
Speaker 1: piece of the black culture, sub sixtion of people that

2967
02:53:04,320 --> 02:53:08,200
Speaker 1: understand a little bit but not a lot. And so

2968
02:53:08,400 --> 02:53:11,640
Speaker 1: we about know about where a land that you know

2969
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:15,520
Speaker 1: in regards to what about this though, because that's what

2970
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:18,360
Speaker 1: a hurdle lies for a lot of people, not at all,

2971
02:53:18,760 --> 02:53:22,760
Speaker 1: but a lot you know. Um, But Charlemagne is a bro.

2972
02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:26,480
Speaker 1: We're proud of you. We love and appreciate what you

2973
02:53:26,600 --> 02:53:31,880
Speaker 1: brought to the game, whether or not you do another thing.

2974
02:53:33,040 --> 02:53:35,560
Speaker 1: We got a lot of love and respect for what

2975
02:53:35,760 --> 02:53:38,720
Speaker 1: you've done, my brother, and if you don't hear it enough,

2976
02:53:39,040 --> 02:53:41,440
Speaker 1: and if you don't hear it a lot, I want

2977
02:53:41,480 --> 02:53:46,920
Speaker 1: to personally on my platform say we're proud of you

2978
02:53:47,080 --> 02:53:50,640
Speaker 1: as a representation of black media, as a representation of

2979
02:53:50,760 --> 02:53:53,520
Speaker 1: hip hop media. We want to give you your flowers

2980
02:53:53,560 --> 02:53:56,560
Speaker 1: while you can smell them, and we definitely want to say, man,

2981
02:53:57,040 --> 02:54:02,760
Speaker 1: big ups. Congrats. Continue to to to help help black

2982
02:54:02,840 --> 02:54:06,920
Speaker 1: men around the world. He'll continue to be entertaining, continue

2983
02:54:06,959 --> 02:54:09,920
Speaker 1: to do everything you do. Congrats and bless to your family,

2984
02:54:10,360 --> 02:54:12,600
Speaker 1: all your loved ones and the people that you work with.

2985
02:54:13,080 --> 02:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Comes from a very sincere place. I've learned a lot

2986
02:54:16,160 --> 02:54:18,440
Speaker 1: from you. I've got a lot of game from you.

2987
02:54:18,959 --> 02:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Um And and even with meeting people like Jason Wilson

2988
02:54:22,760 --> 02:54:26,840
Speaker 1: through the eyes of the Breakfast Club has always been

2989
02:54:26,959 --> 02:54:31,119
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of um of of being

2990
02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:34,840
Speaker 1: in this game right um and even with podcasting, he

2991
02:54:35,040 --> 02:54:39,800
Speaker 1: inspired it, Joe inspired it. Um, combat Jack, shout out

2992
02:54:39,959 --> 02:54:43,760
Speaker 1: combat Jack again. His name seems to be mentioned less

2993
02:54:43,800 --> 02:54:46,480
Speaker 1: and less more and more. But again, as a student

2994
02:54:46,560 --> 02:54:48,200
Speaker 1: of the game, I hear a lot of people now

2995
02:54:48,320 --> 02:54:50,840
Speaker 1: try to say they students of the game. But as

2996
02:54:50,879 --> 02:54:53,040
Speaker 1: a student of the game. We want to also say,

2997
02:54:53,160 --> 02:54:57,360
Speaker 1: shout out combat Jack, shout out Pistol Pete over there. Um,

2998
02:54:57,959 --> 02:55:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Monroe again, shout about you like it's

2999
02:55:00,879 --> 02:55:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot going on in this game, man. But Charlemagne

3000
02:55:04,360 --> 02:55:08,480
Speaker 1: again will appreciate you. It comes from miss up there podcast,

3001
02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:11,320
Speaker 1: my guy, thank you for what you did to the game.

3002
02:55:11,440 --> 02:55:14,119
Speaker 1: For the game, and then in regards to the game,

3003
02:55:14,440 --> 02:55:19,000
Speaker 1: beag ups and let's get back to this interview cards.

3004
02:55:21,240 --> 02:55:23,520
Speaker 1: Because we want other men to givers affirmation. It's like

3005
02:55:23,600 --> 02:55:26,400
Speaker 1: I sai, it's a factless attempt for affirmation. Even with women.

3006
02:55:26,640 --> 02:55:29,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's like we call you trophy wives and

3007
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:32,040
Speaker 1: all this other foolishness. If you would create, you're not

3008
02:55:32,280 --> 02:55:34,640
Speaker 1: meant to be objects, you know what I'm saying that.

3009
02:55:34,760 --> 02:55:37,480
Speaker 1: But it's when we objectify women that that a lot.

3010
02:55:37,560 --> 02:55:40,920
Speaker 1: When I saw that evil, that's what allowed me to

3011
02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:45,640
Speaker 1: break free from pornography because again, to have this right

3012
02:55:45,680 --> 02:55:46,920
Speaker 1: in front of you where you feel you can have

3013
02:55:47,040 --> 02:55:50,480
Speaker 1: control of the most beautiful woman in the world. I

3014
02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:52,640
Speaker 1: didn't know how to really give a woman my heart,

3015
02:55:53,879 --> 02:55:57,119
Speaker 1: But when I allowed myself to be free, I started

3016
02:55:57,240 --> 02:56:01,840
Speaker 1: cherishing women for who they are, even superior qualities, not

3017
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:06,080
Speaker 1: that equal qualities, because my wife runs our nonprofit. If

3018
02:56:06,120 --> 02:56:08,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't for her, I look at the stuff we

3019
02:56:08,200 --> 02:56:12,120
Speaker 1: do now, that's because I allowed my wife to operate

3020
02:56:12,160 --> 02:56:14,560
Speaker 1: in the fullness of who she is. Right, I don't

3021
02:56:14,600 --> 02:56:17,240
Speaker 1: need you to be just at home with my children.

3022
02:56:17,600 --> 02:56:21,120
Speaker 1: God has created you to lead this organization, this ministry,

3023
02:56:21,160 --> 02:56:23,279
Speaker 1: and then eventually I hope she gets her own health center.

3024
02:56:24,160 --> 02:56:26,360
Speaker 1: The goal for us to even be healed, brother, and

3025
02:56:26,400 --> 02:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I was sharing this at the ex bol for us

3026
02:56:29,720 --> 02:56:32,680
Speaker 1: to heal this black men. I want us to heal

3027
02:56:32,760 --> 02:56:35,959
Speaker 1: so we can finally decrease what's going on the side

3028
02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:39,960
Speaker 1: of us, so that our sisters can finally unload the

3029
02:56:40,120 --> 02:56:43,680
Speaker 1: weight and emotional pain that they've been in doing for decades.

3030
02:56:44,920 --> 02:56:47,400
Speaker 1: That's what we as many. Okay, look at how many

3031
02:56:47,400 --> 02:56:50,160
Speaker 1: initiatives are for men. I want to see more for

3032
02:56:50,240 --> 02:56:54,840
Speaker 1: our women. I want to see a sister who've done

3033
02:56:54,920 --> 02:56:58,320
Speaker 1: something really that she desired to do, and she's crying

3034
02:56:58,400 --> 02:57:01,200
Speaker 1: before the award or whatever and said, if it wasn't

3035
02:57:01,240 --> 02:57:05,240
Speaker 1: for my husband, if it wasn't for them, I wouldn't

3036
02:57:05,280 --> 02:57:09,040
Speaker 1: have been here. We always credit our sisters, but I

3037
02:57:09,120 --> 02:57:11,840
Speaker 1: want us to reach that healing. Now, as far as affirmation,

3038
02:57:13,240 --> 02:57:15,560
Speaker 1: it's so important, especially with our boys. You know, I

3039
02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:18,960
Speaker 1: remember I had one kid. When I piloted the cave

3040
02:57:19,000 --> 02:57:21,879
Speaker 1: of a dullhum the principle introduced me to this young

3041
02:57:21,959 --> 02:57:27,560
Speaker 1: man by all negative descriptions. Before that boy got to me,

3042
02:57:27,720 --> 02:57:30,400
Speaker 1: he literally was torn down by the time he sat

3043
02:57:30,520 --> 02:57:34,360
Speaker 1: next to me. I took that young man and for

3044
02:57:34,480 --> 02:57:37,400
Speaker 1: twenty four weeks affirmed and poured into him, taught him

3045
02:57:37,440 --> 02:57:41,119
Speaker 1: how to meditate, release the anger, the frustration, and actually

3046
02:57:41,160 --> 02:57:43,920
Speaker 1: the hurt of not having a father. There he smoked

3047
02:57:43,959 --> 02:57:46,800
Speaker 1: about two blunts a week. This was an eighth grader.

3048
02:57:47,200 --> 02:57:52,000
Speaker 1: His great point average was point eight. Within twenty four weeks,

3049
02:57:52,640 --> 02:57:56,680
Speaker 1: his whole life change, and he graduated because I affirmed

3050
02:57:57,040 --> 02:57:59,720
Speaker 1: him and who he was, even the young man he

3051
02:57:59,760 --> 02:58:03,720
Speaker 1: did and see they saw the prankster. I saw someone

3052
02:58:03,800 --> 02:58:08,360
Speaker 1: who could negotiate, whose wives, who's clever? They saw someone anger.

3053
02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:10,959
Speaker 1: I saw a young man who would fight against injustice,

3054
02:58:11,160 --> 02:58:15,600
Speaker 1: who would defend kids who are bullied. That's what affirmation does,

3055
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:18,640
Speaker 1: to leave the negative things that people say about you

3056
02:58:18,760 --> 02:58:21,880
Speaker 1: and think that it's true. Yeah, think about the Philippians

3057
02:58:22,040 --> 02:58:24,039
Speaker 1: and the speed. I what I would want to ask

3058
02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:28,680
Speaker 1: to to that, because again I don't claim to be

3059
02:58:28,840 --> 02:58:34,440
Speaker 1: perfect in my communication or my approach um to to

3060
02:58:37,959 --> 02:58:42,480
Speaker 1: to trying to shape the view of of of black children.

3061
02:58:43,240 --> 02:58:45,560
Speaker 1: UM in regards to the streets. Now, I will say

3062
02:58:45,640 --> 02:58:49,000
Speaker 1: it's effective, but I want to know the difference between

3063
02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:55,200
Speaker 1: UM so, so so and so calling someone some names

3064
02:58:55,240 --> 02:59:00,800
Speaker 1: and tearing them down or describing what they're seeing, right,

3065
02:59:01,879 --> 02:59:05,640
Speaker 1: Because right, let's say I get you stilling if I

3066
02:59:05,800 --> 02:59:08,520
Speaker 1: call you a thief, or if I say you know,

3067
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:12,520
Speaker 1: because there's accountability in me telling you what you've done,

3068
02:59:13,879 --> 02:59:17,080
Speaker 1: and some somewhere along the lines in the ghetto they

3069
02:59:17,200 --> 02:59:19,440
Speaker 1: when you when you take that approach where you can't

3070
02:59:19,520 --> 02:59:25,640
Speaker 1: really say things in fear of tearing someone down, then

3071
02:59:25,760 --> 02:59:30,520
Speaker 1: you can't effectively communicate the gravity of what the situation is.

3072
02:59:30,959 --> 02:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Because if you're still in, I need to be able

3073
02:59:33,840 --> 02:59:37,480
Speaker 1: to say you're you're still in thieves, still still in?

3074
02:59:37,640 --> 02:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Gets this right, but through different lends that can be viewed,

3075
02:59:42,680 --> 02:59:46,119
Speaker 1: it's tearing down. My question would be that hopefully other

3076
02:59:46,160 --> 02:59:49,280
Speaker 1: people understand what I'm saying. It just says think on

3077
02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:51,000
Speaker 1: those things that are good. It doesn't say think on

3078
02:59:51,080 --> 02:59:53,680
Speaker 1: those things that are bad. Because we typically gravitate toward

3079
02:59:53,720 --> 02:59:57,760
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, and so it's it just uplifts us all,

3080
02:59:58,120 --> 03:00:00,400
Speaker 1: you know. And that's why I told you, brother, because

3081
03:00:01,280 --> 03:00:04,199
Speaker 1: you know, if we're judged by our past, I'm done.

3082
03:00:04,760 --> 03:00:07,160
Speaker 1: You just don't know the stuff that I've done. You know,

3083
03:00:07,360 --> 03:00:09,640
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been around, and I'm not proud of

3084
03:00:09,680 --> 03:00:13,080
Speaker 1: where I've been. I thank you for who you are

3085
03:00:13,160 --> 03:00:15,480
Speaker 1: and I meant everything that I said. Man, I'm proud

3086
03:00:15,560 --> 03:00:17,440
Speaker 1: of you, and that's why I affirmed you. And we

3087
03:00:17,520 --> 03:00:20,440
Speaker 1: need to affirm each other that way. And then more so,

3088
03:00:20,560 --> 03:00:24,920
Speaker 1: as I told our brother van Lathan, when we're so

3089
03:00:25,120 --> 03:00:28,520
Speaker 1: quick to just deflect it or just hear no, you're

3090
03:00:28,520 --> 03:00:30,440
Speaker 1: the man too. I love what you're doing. Like no,

3091
03:00:30,560 --> 03:00:33,320
Speaker 1: I want you to hold that, brother, because you're doing

3092
03:00:33,400 --> 03:00:36,440
Speaker 1: some great things, and I want you to really base

3093
03:00:36,640 --> 03:00:38,920
Speaker 1: who you are as a man. And that's all I

3094
03:00:39,000 --> 03:00:42,119
Speaker 1: ever wanted. And so that's why I'm thankful I finally

3095
03:00:42,160 --> 03:00:45,920
Speaker 1: allowed my wife access to hear. Because what causes men

3096
03:00:46,040 --> 03:00:49,160
Speaker 1: to really drift away. You want to feel important, you

3097
03:00:49,240 --> 03:00:53,040
Speaker 1: want to feel loved, but it's if you don't work

3098
03:00:53,080 --> 03:00:55,520
Speaker 1: as hard as you do in the community, in your home,

3099
03:00:56,000 --> 03:00:57,959
Speaker 1: how do you expect those in your home to give

3100
03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:01,279
Speaker 1: you the accolades that you desire when you're working twice

3101
03:01:01,320 --> 03:01:03,200
Speaker 1: as hard for those who don't even live with you.

3102
03:01:03,360 --> 03:01:05,640
Speaker 1: That's right, And I mean people want to be seen.

3103
03:01:05,760 --> 03:01:07,800
Speaker 1: Like it's like when you when you tell somebody I

3104
03:01:07,959 --> 03:01:10,879
Speaker 1: see you, I'm proud of you, not probably what you're driving,

3105
03:01:10,959 --> 03:01:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, and describes you've made to be

3106
03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:19,280
Speaker 1: a better person. Yes, that's that's the difficult. That's major.

3107
03:01:19,400 --> 03:01:21,360
Speaker 1: And you know, as men, we live from what we

3108
03:01:21,480 --> 03:01:24,640
Speaker 1: do instead of who we are. You know, we even yeah,

3109
03:01:24,760 --> 03:01:26,760
Speaker 1: and you know, and we'll get we'll get to some

3110
03:01:26,920 --> 03:01:28,760
Speaker 1: more that. Like I said, man that there was a

3111
03:01:28,920 --> 03:01:31,040
Speaker 1: very deep interview and I got a lot to say

3112
03:01:31,120 --> 03:01:33,720
Speaker 1: on that. But I don't want to I don't want

3113
03:01:33,720 --> 03:01:35,840
Speaker 1: to hog all the time or the show with that

3114
03:01:36,000 --> 03:01:40,720
Speaker 1: will move on. UM, I do want to say this, UM,

3115
03:01:41,040 --> 03:01:45,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people worry about falling in love when

3116
03:01:45,760 --> 03:01:49,520
Speaker 1: the goal is never to fall in love. The goal

3117
03:01:49,760 --> 03:01:52,960
Speaker 1: is never to find someone and and and and and

3118
03:01:53,160 --> 03:01:55,720
Speaker 1: see them and next thing you know, you fall in love.

3119
03:01:55,840 --> 03:02:00,560
Speaker 1: The goal is to stay in love. Yeah. The goal

3120
03:02:00,800 --> 03:02:03,400
Speaker 1: is to is to sit down next to your love

3121
03:02:03,520 --> 03:02:07,040
Speaker 1: and grab on tool and hold on tool you know,

3122
03:02:07,160 --> 03:02:09,840
Speaker 1: and make sure that it's still flames in the in

3123
03:02:09,959 --> 03:02:13,480
Speaker 1: the five place, you know, years down the road, you know,

3124
03:02:14,000 --> 03:02:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I think again, sometimes it's about perspective,

3125
03:02:19,680 --> 03:02:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, even me when I look at the field

3126
03:02:21,800 --> 03:02:24,640
Speaker 1: of dating and and and people and women and things

3127
03:02:24,760 --> 03:02:26,920
Speaker 1: like that, like and there's people out there that loved

3128
03:02:27,080 --> 03:02:32,200
Speaker 1: me my dirty draws right now, love me, um, But

3129
03:02:32,400 --> 03:02:35,400
Speaker 1: my emotions don't place me in a place right to

3130
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:41,200
Speaker 1: really understand it, you know, because I'm not I'm I'm

3131
03:02:41,400 --> 03:02:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm weird in that place, you know, like he says.

3132
03:02:45,080 --> 03:02:48,120
Speaker 1: And he also spoke to something that that that that

3133
03:02:48,360 --> 03:02:52,040
Speaker 1: that hit me hard. He says. Uh. When you usually

3134
03:02:52,160 --> 03:02:55,680
Speaker 1: see an older couple, right, seventy year old sixty seventy

3135
03:02:55,760 --> 03:02:59,000
Speaker 1: year old older couple, the woman still got peeping a step.

3136
03:02:59,120 --> 03:03:01,760
Speaker 1: She jumped right out there, read the role right, come

3137
03:03:01,840 --> 03:03:04,360
Speaker 1: on in the Logan Steakhouse and get their mistakes. She

3138
03:03:04,480 --> 03:03:08,480
Speaker 1: read the goal. And then the man get out and

3139
03:03:08,600 --> 03:03:11,039
Speaker 1: he need a walker, and he badly moved and then

3140
03:03:11,120 --> 03:03:15,879
Speaker 1: his back hunched over. It's because he's been grinding. He'd

3141
03:03:15,920 --> 03:03:18,920
Speaker 1: been working hard this entire time. You know that meme.

3142
03:03:19,040 --> 03:03:21,520
Speaker 1: They go around and say, my hands look like this,

3143
03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:24,240
Speaker 1: so her hands can look like that. The way that

3144
03:03:24,320 --> 03:03:27,480
Speaker 1: America is set up, it'll break you all the way

3145
03:03:27,720 --> 03:03:32,920
Speaker 1: down for twenty five dollars an hour, for faulty years,

3146
03:03:35,000 --> 03:03:39,320
Speaker 1: hard label, and you look up your back, don't work

3147
03:03:39,400 --> 03:03:42,920
Speaker 1: your woman. You can't enjoy a nice a steak because

3148
03:03:42,959 --> 03:03:46,000
Speaker 1: you can't badly eat your teeth gone. They don't work

3149
03:03:46,080 --> 03:03:48,400
Speaker 1: the dog. You don't grandy, and your people straight, and

3150
03:03:48,480 --> 03:03:51,600
Speaker 1: you got the little pension and this and that, but

3151
03:03:51,760 --> 03:03:55,400
Speaker 1: look at the fix on your body. Look at the

3152
03:03:55,520 --> 03:03:57,920
Speaker 1: fix it done to you. And what he says is

3153
03:03:58,000 --> 03:04:00,840
Speaker 1: oftentimes it's because me and you hear me say that,

3154
03:04:00,840 --> 03:04:04,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I gotta be careful. I don't rest well.

3155
03:04:05,640 --> 03:04:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't rest well. But you hear you hear him say.

3156
03:04:09,400 --> 03:04:12,800
Speaker 1: Some people, most men, they get into this. I'm grinding.

3157
03:04:12,840 --> 03:04:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm grinding, and that's me. I'm grinding. I'm caring about nothing.

3158
03:04:16,720 --> 03:04:18,959
Speaker 1: Then all I'm doing is this heal boy. It's about

3159
03:04:19,000 --> 03:04:22,720
Speaker 1: this heal boy. It's up with me. I'm stuck on it. Right.

3160
03:04:24,320 --> 03:04:27,440
Speaker 1: But the definition of grand and according to this guy,

3161
03:04:27,680 --> 03:04:34,960
Speaker 1: is to misuse, to to devalue, right, to break down

3162
03:04:35,240 --> 03:04:38,279
Speaker 1: to you know, like if they say your breaks. Grinding

3163
03:04:38,400 --> 03:04:42,440
Speaker 1: that ain't a good thing. Nah, your breaks. Grinding ain't

3164
03:04:42,480 --> 03:04:45,400
Speaker 1: a good thing. Working hard it's one thing, but to

3165
03:04:45,560 --> 03:04:54,360
Speaker 1: grind indicates you substitute sleep. See working hard. You can

3166
03:04:54,480 --> 03:04:58,920
Speaker 1: still be partying hard. But with somebody saying I'm grinding,

3167
03:04:59,520 --> 03:05:03,440
Speaker 1: that mean because they're grinding, ain't no good really anything

3168
03:05:03,600 --> 03:05:06,680
Speaker 1: grinding that ain't really that's tanning up whatever going, it's

3169
03:05:06,720 --> 03:05:09,760
Speaker 1: tanning it up. Now. It might still can get there.

3170
03:05:10,040 --> 03:05:13,520
Speaker 1: Say your brakes granted, but they still stop. Boy, I

3171
03:05:13,640 --> 03:05:15,840
Speaker 1: mean it might. You can hit me pulling off, but

3172
03:05:16,160 --> 03:05:19,360
Speaker 1: break dust and ship going, but they still stop. But

3173
03:05:19,520 --> 03:05:23,800
Speaker 1: you you're breaking it down. And that's what I gottam

3174
03:05:23,840 --> 03:05:27,400
Speaker 1: flip the switch because I'm I'm grinding. I don't want

3175
03:05:27,440 --> 03:05:31,200
Speaker 1: to grind. I want to work hard. It's a difference there,

3176
03:05:31,280 --> 03:05:34,240
Speaker 1: and I just learned that today. It's a difference between

3177
03:05:34,360 --> 03:05:38,160
Speaker 1: grinding and working hard. And that's an analogy I just

3178
03:05:38,680 --> 03:05:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, put together of listening to Jason Wilson off

3179
03:05:42,680 --> 03:05:45,920
Speaker 1: because of Charlemagney, God brought him on Breakfast Club again.

3180
03:05:46,520 --> 03:05:50,600
Speaker 1: Healing is being done without these people directly speaking or

3181
03:05:50,680 --> 03:05:55,760
Speaker 1: touching folk. That's why it's important for these conversations you know,

3182
03:05:56,400 --> 03:05:59,040
Speaker 1: I see everybody running around talking to rappers out. I

3183
03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:01,560
Speaker 1: want to talk to them too. They my buddies. But

3184
03:06:01,720 --> 03:06:04,760
Speaker 1: I also got to talk to scientists. I also need

3185
03:06:04,840 --> 03:06:07,520
Speaker 1: to speak with new or surgeons. I also need to

3186
03:06:07,560 --> 03:06:11,440
Speaker 1: speak with lawyers, like I've already done currently. Georgia's like

3187
03:06:11,560 --> 03:06:15,320
Speaker 1: I've already done currently. Uh, I had a guy from

3188
03:06:15,360 --> 03:06:19,920
Speaker 1: Switzerland already currently, Like you know, because this this ain't

3189
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:24,400
Speaker 1: just about the niggery shit, this ain't what this is.

3190
03:06:24,560 --> 03:06:27,760
Speaker 1: It's up there. Podcast is game giving the game understood,

3191
03:06:28,720 --> 03:06:30,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we'll move on from

3192
03:06:30,600 --> 03:06:33,360
Speaker 1: this and but but staying in love. It's always it's

3193
03:06:33,400 --> 03:06:37,039
Speaker 1: always the key man and um y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all

3194
03:06:37,160 --> 03:06:38,960
Speaker 1: just understand that. Let's see what else we want to

3195
03:06:39,000 --> 03:06:42,960
Speaker 1: talk about. All right, let's talk about Alec Boat when

3196
03:06:43,040 --> 03:06:46,160
Speaker 1: I think his name is um. There was reports there

3197
03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:48,640
Speaker 1: was shotisfied on the set of his moving which one

3198
03:06:48,879 --> 03:06:52,080
Speaker 1: was killed too when injured or Peter those people in

3199
03:06:52,200 --> 03:06:57,879
Speaker 1: which are prop gun um was given to the actor

3200
03:06:58,160 --> 03:07:00,720
Speaker 1: used in a scene, and in fact it was a

3201
03:07:00,840 --> 03:07:06,480
Speaker 1: hot loaded firearm and a bullet ejected and hit two people. Again,

3202
03:07:06,640 --> 03:07:12,560
Speaker 1: one of those people did transition, and we want we

3203
03:07:12,720 --> 03:07:14,520
Speaker 1: want to speak about it a little bit. So let's

3204
03:07:14,560 --> 03:07:20,520
Speaker 1: see what ABC had to say about the official incident

3205
03:07:20,600 --> 03:07:23,039
Speaker 1: that took place on the set of the movie Rust.

3206
03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:27,280
Speaker 1: One second Tonight the Dead the real life horror unfolding

3207
03:07:27,360 --> 03:07:34,200
Speaker 1: on a movie set in New Mexico. Authorities tonight confirming

3208
03:07:34,280 --> 03:07:38,800
Speaker 1: that actor Alec Baldwin accidentally discharged a prop gun, shooting

3209
03:07:38,920 --> 03:07:42,160
Speaker 1: two people on the set of the upcoming western movie Rust.

3210
03:07:42,720 --> 03:07:45,960
Speaker 1: Helena Hutchins, the forty two year old director of photography,

3211
03:07:46,280 --> 03:07:51,039
Speaker 1: eventually dying, while director Joel Souza is still undergoing treatment

3212
03:07:51,160 --> 03:07:54,680
Speaker 1: for his injuries. Baldwin, also one of the film's producers,

3213
03:07:55,040 --> 03:07:57,400
Speaker 1: is best known for his starring role in Thirty Rock

3214
03:07:57,480 --> 03:08:01,160
Speaker 1: and a recent turn playing Donald Trump on Saturday Night Live.

3215
03:08:01,720 --> 03:08:05,640
Speaker 1: This image, posted earlier today on Baldwin's Instagram shows him

3216
03:08:05,680 --> 03:08:08,520
Speaker 1: on the set of the movie. An image is taken

3217
03:08:08,640 --> 03:08:12,959
Speaker 1: after the shooting. Baldwin is visibly distraught. The Sheriff's department

3218
03:08:13,040 --> 03:08:15,640
Speaker 1: says that no charges have been filed, but that the

3219
03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:22,760
Speaker 1: investigation remains active. Just a crazy situation, right, um, um,

3220
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:27,000
Speaker 1: Just in that. Now, first, you gotta understand a couple

3221
03:08:27,040 --> 03:08:32,960
Speaker 1: of things again, Understanding this key to you know, understanding

3222
03:08:33,000 --> 03:08:36,400
Speaker 1: the gravity and things like that, or the circumstances surrounding

3223
03:08:36,600 --> 03:08:38,840
Speaker 1: the events that took But to do so, you must

3224
03:08:38,879 --> 03:08:42,600
Speaker 1: put in perspective what these things are. On the set

3225
03:08:42,640 --> 03:08:48,080
Speaker 1: of a movie, there's a firearm that's called a blank

3226
03:08:49,320 --> 03:08:52,040
Speaker 1: You gotta understand what that means. That's a gun that

3227
03:08:52,320 --> 03:08:55,640
Speaker 1: looks like a gun. It has the same sound and

3228
03:08:55,840 --> 03:08:59,279
Speaker 1: the muzzle flash, meaning it'll even look like the fire

3229
03:09:00,320 --> 03:09:04,640
Speaker 1: but it should not actually firing any weapon, I'm sorry,

3230
03:09:04,800 --> 03:09:09,720
Speaker 1: fire any bullet number one, number two. They don't even

3231
03:09:09,800 --> 03:09:14,400
Speaker 1: call them bullets. They're supposed to be called cartridges because

3232
03:09:15,840 --> 03:09:17,920
Speaker 1: they're supposed to take the tip out of it or

3233
03:09:17,959 --> 03:09:23,840
Speaker 1: something and make it where it's unusable. Um conspiracy theory.

3234
03:09:23,920 --> 03:09:26,320
Speaker 1: Land is saying, is this a was this a setup?

3235
03:09:26,480 --> 03:09:28,680
Speaker 1: Is this? Or this? Is this or that? And it's

3236
03:09:28,720 --> 03:09:32,600
Speaker 1: getting very very deep in detailed as to what may

3237
03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:37,480
Speaker 1: be happening. I could only imagine, like you know, if

3238
03:09:37,520 --> 03:09:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm the actor, I'm probably not the person

3239
03:09:40,240 --> 03:09:45,160
Speaker 1: to check the gun. So if someone has it out

3240
03:09:45,240 --> 03:09:48,440
Speaker 1: for you and they load this gun with a bullet

3241
03:09:49,240 --> 03:09:52,800
Speaker 1: and then have me to in the in the midst

3242
03:09:52,840 --> 03:09:56,040
Speaker 1: of a movie and shoot you and then they actually

3243
03:09:56,120 --> 03:10:00,800
Speaker 1: just got a free kill, unfortunately of that family. But

3244
03:10:00,959 --> 03:10:05,039
Speaker 1: that that's a weird circumstance, Like we're on the set

3245
03:10:05,080 --> 03:10:07,320
Speaker 1: of a movie in which the gun is being used

3246
03:10:07,400 --> 03:10:11,720
Speaker 1: to shoot someone in this and someone effectively could have

3247
03:10:11,959 --> 03:10:18,680
Speaker 1: carried out whatever intentions that they had. You know what

3248
03:10:18,760 --> 03:10:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's a real problem, bro, And I think, um,

3249
03:10:23,200 --> 03:10:25,280
Speaker 1: I think with them being able to look at it,

3250
03:10:25,600 --> 03:10:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how they hold one person accountable or

3251
03:10:28,560 --> 03:10:30,160
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I know a lot of people

3252
03:10:30,200 --> 03:10:32,360
Speaker 1: saying someone should be here accountable, get them, get them,

3253
03:10:32,680 --> 03:10:35,520
Speaker 1: but what do they really do? Like, how do you

3254
03:10:35,600 --> 03:10:38,280
Speaker 1: see is that cameras around? Do we can we get

3255
03:10:38,360 --> 03:10:41,600
Speaker 1: the fingerprints off of it? Or whoever job was it?

3256
03:10:41,720 --> 03:10:44,320
Speaker 1: It's on you, it's you gotta beat you, you gotta go.

3257
03:10:45,640 --> 03:10:48,560
Speaker 1: Do they do it like that? Because I could have

3258
03:10:48,640 --> 03:10:52,400
Speaker 1: been I can be framing the gun guy. How But

3259
03:10:52,560 --> 03:10:54,280
Speaker 1: then you ask yourself, how can you be framing the

3260
03:10:54,360 --> 03:10:57,120
Speaker 1: gun guy when his job is to check that so

3261
03:10:57,520 --> 03:11:00,600
Speaker 1: his negligence can lead to him being respond before a

3262
03:11:00,680 --> 03:11:04,160
Speaker 1: murder went in which he really could have been. They

3263
03:11:04,240 --> 03:11:07,600
Speaker 1: could have took the information knowing that they really don't

3264
03:11:07,680 --> 03:11:09,840
Speaker 1: check the guns. You know, once they check him once,

3265
03:11:09,879 --> 03:11:13,039
Speaker 1: it's cool. He could have took that negligence and used

3266
03:11:13,040 --> 03:11:16,160
Speaker 1: it against him. Like, I think they're doing bootshit right now.

3267
03:11:17,760 --> 03:11:20,840
Speaker 1: Like it's like they're trying to use Boosit against Bootsit right.

3268
03:11:20,920 --> 03:11:22,920
Speaker 1: They put little Nazis to say I got a song

3269
03:11:23,040 --> 03:11:26,320
Speaker 1: with Bootsey like and then what's crazy is people are

3270
03:11:26,320 --> 03:11:29,400
Speaker 1: acting like boostit is Boossey really hate that man. He

3271
03:11:29,600 --> 03:11:32,360
Speaker 1: never said nothing else to that. Dude said that, Like,

3272
03:11:32,520 --> 03:11:36,320
Speaker 1: that's a weird thing, right, But they're using you against

3273
03:11:36,360 --> 03:11:38,640
Speaker 1: you because they know you're gonna react a certain way,

3274
03:11:39,760 --> 03:11:41,880
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna respond to the way you react

3275
03:11:41,959 --> 03:11:44,119
Speaker 1: instead of what was said to you. It's a weird

3276
03:11:44,280 --> 03:11:48,640
Speaker 1: thing that happens there. You see what I'm saying. Um,

3277
03:11:49,600 --> 03:11:53,040
Speaker 1: but this situation is sad, man, and and we pray

3278
03:11:53,480 --> 03:11:56,160
Speaker 1: for all parties involved. We're gonna see if we got

3279
03:11:56,240 --> 03:11:58,200
Speaker 1: some few more things to talk about, then we'll get

3280
03:11:58,240 --> 03:12:01,760
Speaker 1: out of here, all right. So let's speak. Let's speak

3281
03:12:01,760 --> 03:12:05,760
Speaker 1: about little Baby and a little dirt. Um. Let me

3282
03:12:05,840 --> 03:12:08,280
Speaker 1: just put the framework for what's happening for those of

3283
03:12:08,360 --> 03:12:12,840
Speaker 1: you may not know. Um, Little Dirt and Little Baby

3284
03:12:12,879 --> 03:12:16,800
Speaker 1: has been on the back outside tour. UM. That was

3285
03:12:17,040 --> 03:12:22,920
Speaker 1: one media personality DJ Academics that he's he's taking this

3286
03:12:23,480 --> 03:12:27,320
Speaker 1: unique position UM in the game right, so he wants

3287
03:12:27,360 --> 03:12:31,800
Speaker 1: to He's building his brand around being like the voice

3288
03:12:32,440 --> 03:12:34,680
Speaker 1: like about being a numbers guy and the guy that

3289
03:12:34,840 --> 03:12:38,280
Speaker 1: knows everything like about UM, you know the sales and

3290
03:12:38,800 --> 03:12:40,680
Speaker 1: you know if you sell this the first week, then

3291
03:12:40,720 --> 03:12:43,200
Speaker 1: the next week, you want, you know, his brand. He's

3292
03:12:43,320 --> 03:12:47,840
Speaker 1: he's building his brand. UM. He's changing it from like

3293
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:51,840
Speaker 1: a a hip hop platform to where he was first

3294
03:12:51,959 --> 03:12:56,320
Speaker 1: just kind of repurposing everyone else's content and now he's

3295
03:12:56,320 --> 03:13:00,600
Speaker 1: trying to be like the hip hop excuse me, He's

3296
03:13:00,640 --> 03:13:04,320
Speaker 1: trying to be like the hip hop uh insider type thing.

3297
03:13:04,600 --> 03:13:07,520
Speaker 1: So he came out after a Little Dirk and Little

3298
03:13:07,560 --> 03:13:16,200
Speaker 1: Baby UM announced the tour. You know he came out. Um.

3299
03:13:16,360 --> 03:13:20,760
Speaker 1: He came out to say that UM, the tour wasn't

3300
03:13:20,800 --> 03:13:23,360
Speaker 1: selling good. UM. On top of that, he went on

3301
03:13:23,440 --> 03:13:26,800
Speaker 1: a white platform. One of my a person that I

3302
03:13:26,879 --> 03:13:31,800
Speaker 1: often look at it and definitely enjoy UM the content

3303
03:13:31,879 --> 03:13:34,480
Speaker 1: he brings to the game. Doctor make Johnson called him

3304
03:13:34,520 --> 03:13:37,080
Speaker 1: out on my podcast after I asked him some questions

3305
03:13:37,160 --> 03:13:42,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Sholtz, So he went on Andrew Schultz podcast. Um

3306
03:13:43,840 --> 03:13:47,760
Speaker 1: and downplayed little Baby's reach, which I found very interesting,

3307
03:13:47,879 --> 03:13:51,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know it, maybe it was, you know, unintentional,

3308
03:13:51,400 --> 03:13:55,760
Speaker 1: but it interesting to say the least. Um, Andrew Schultz,

3309
03:13:56,440 --> 03:13:59,560
Speaker 1: you don't need you need to explain to Andrew Shots

3310
03:13:59,600 --> 03:14:03,480
Speaker 1: what little Baby's reaches. You know, you need to explain

3311
03:14:03,600 --> 03:14:06,720
Speaker 1: the Andrew Shots what little baby's reach is not telling

3312
03:14:06,800 --> 03:14:09,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Shots, No, little baby doesn't have to reach you

3313
03:14:09,560 --> 03:14:12,720
Speaker 1: think he has. Yes, he does, and we need to

3314
03:14:12,800 --> 03:14:17,080
Speaker 1: explain that. Um. But we went, we went. He went

3315
03:14:17,320 --> 03:14:20,600
Speaker 1: over to flagrant to y'all go check that out podcast

3316
03:14:21,120 --> 03:14:24,039
Speaker 1: and said some things about a little baby not having

3317
03:14:24,600 --> 03:14:27,240
Speaker 1: the reach that maybe some people says he has. This

3318
03:14:27,440 --> 03:14:30,560
Speaker 1: was off the heels of Logan Paul Um saying that

3319
03:14:31,080 --> 03:14:33,320
Speaker 1: baby sounds the same on all the songs, that he

3320
03:14:33,400 --> 03:14:35,920
Speaker 1: really don't know him. And then the fans got on

3321
03:14:36,080 --> 03:14:38,360
Speaker 1: him and he doubled back and said, oh my bad

3322
03:14:38,680 --> 03:14:42,000
Speaker 1: baby is the truth right, So he he even had

3323
03:14:42,080 --> 03:14:46,560
Speaker 1: to recant his statement, you know, after doing some some investigation.

3324
03:14:46,640 --> 03:14:49,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, and that's what I mean about

3325
03:14:49,240 --> 03:14:53,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Shots. Right. The people that communicate the Sholtz m

3326
03:14:54,800 --> 03:14:58,800
Speaker 1: Charlemagne gives him a holistic standpoint of the game. Um.

3327
03:14:58,879 --> 03:15:02,360
Speaker 1: But Academics went there as a hip hop insider and

3328
03:15:02,520 --> 03:15:10,640
Speaker 1: said things that I would deem to be inaccurate. You know.

3329
03:15:11,080 --> 03:15:14,320
Speaker 1: Um again, he said, little Baby Them wouldn't sell any

3330
03:15:14,440 --> 03:15:18,240
Speaker 1: tickets on this tour. Most likely they're not gonna do

3331
03:15:18,480 --> 03:15:21,480
Speaker 1: pretty good. He even said that he's going based off

3332
03:15:21,520 --> 03:15:24,160
Speaker 1: the numbers, in which we can believe that. But if

3333
03:15:24,200 --> 03:15:28,080
Speaker 1: you're a hip hop insider, you have to view things

3334
03:15:28,160 --> 03:15:30,320
Speaker 1: a different way. Let's look at what Little Baby Them

3335
03:15:30,480 --> 03:15:33,640
Speaker 1: was told about how much they make? Thank you for

3336
03:15:33,720 --> 03:15:43,640
Speaker 1: ever what the numbers was again, Yeah, dollars goes twenty

3337
03:15:43,720 --> 03:15:49,720
Speaker 1: three cities, twenty cities across the Yeah, they say we aren't.

3338
03:15:49,720 --> 03:16:04,640
Speaker 1: They say weren't gonna sell no teams and new train

3339
03:16:04,800 --> 03:16:09,920
Speaker 1: hard So fifteen million dollars made, DJ Academics was saying.

3340
03:16:11,680 --> 03:16:14,439
Speaker 1: And the only reason I have to say, DJ Academics

3341
03:16:14,560 --> 03:16:17,480
Speaker 1: was saying because he literally was the only person that

3342
03:16:17,840 --> 03:16:23,480
Speaker 1: spoke to this tour supposedly not selling well. Right, He

3343
03:16:23,640 --> 03:16:25,720
Speaker 1: was the only person to speak to that number one

3344
03:16:25,840 --> 03:16:31,040
Speaker 1: number two. He acted as a hip hop insider on

3345
03:16:31,160 --> 03:16:34,840
Speaker 1: one of our You Know Andrew Show's podcast and was

3346
03:16:34,959 --> 03:16:39,120
Speaker 1: inaccurate and representing one of my Southern artists. Again, this

3347
03:16:39,240 --> 03:16:43,400
Speaker 1: seems to always happen at some point when the representation

3348
03:16:43,520 --> 03:16:46,680
Speaker 1: of the artists from the South come, it seems to

3349
03:16:46,760 --> 03:16:50,680
Speaker 1: come with a bit of um misinformation attest to it.

3350
03:16:51,200 --> 03:16:53,680
Speaker 1: So again my job, I'm the clean up man. I

3351
03:16:53,760 --> 03:16:59,160
Speaker 1: have to come in reiterate, you know, an idea that

3352
03:16:59,240 --> 03:17:03,720
Speaker 1: is closer to reality. Right. So when academics went on

3353
03:17:03,840 --> 03:17:06,360
Speaker 1: there and said that, he said, he said that based

3354
03:17:06,440 --> 03:17:09,680
Speaker 1: on the ticket sales, and he's a hip hop insider

3355
03:17:09,760 --> 03:17:12,520
Speaker 1: and he knows that the sales are not moving like that.

3356
03:17:12,680 --> 03:17:15,000
Speaker 1: They can't selling arena out here. They can't sell it

3357
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:20,320
Speaker 1: the arena out there. Academics was wrong. He then had

3358
03:17:20,360 --> 03:17:24,959
Speaker 1: a conversation with QCP shout out P Quality of Control.

3359
03:17:25,800 --> 03:17:30,080
Speaker 1: P told him, Yo, you was right about that, but

3360
03:17:31,560 --> 03:17:37,440
Speaker 1: they had some of the best walk up sales in history. Man.

3361
03:17:37,560 --> 03:17:39,879
Speaker 1: What that says to me is if I'm the hip

3362
03:17:39,920 --> 03:17:42,680
Speaker 1: hop inside or like me, I consider all things I

3363
03:17:42,800 --> 03:17:45,760
Speaker 1: consider shit. So when you're viewing it, for you to

3364
03:17:46,000 --> 03:17:49,520
Speaker 1: make up that bold of a statement, right, because if

3365
03:17:49,640 --> 03:17:53,360
Speaker 1: everyone's looking that little baby and dirt and saying there

3366
03:17:53,440 --> 03:17:58,000
Speaker 1: on fire, for you to say that and it gets attention.

3367
03:17:58,600 --> 03:18:02,640
Speaker 1: It's because it's kind trary to what people believe. Right.

3368
03:18:03,040 --> 03:18:07,200
Speaker 1: So when we view Baby and Dirt, we see popping charts,

3369
03:18:07,280 --> 03:18:11,280
Speaker 1: Apple Music, Spotify, they're going crazy. Then we got some

3370
03:18:11,520 --> 03:18:14,080
Speaker 1: media guys saying, hey, they can't sell things out. It's

3371
03:18:14,120 --> 03:18:16,520
Speaker 1: not what you think, yo, it's not what you think.

3372
03:18:17,400 --> 03:18:19,360
Speaker 1: So it's important for me to have to come out

3373
03:18:20,160 --> 03:18:24,200
Speaker 1: and say things in response to that number one. Number two,

3374
03:18:24,879 --> 03:18:27,520
Speaker 1: you are supposed to consider that we are coming out

3375
03:18:27,560 --> 03:18:31,080
Speaker 1: of a pandemic. If you do any research, go back

3376
03:18:31,120 --> 03:18:34,280
Speaker 1: a hundred years in the nineteen twenties. When things reopen,

3377
03:18:34,680 --> 03:18:37,480
Speaker 1: it's not gonna reopen and snap right back to ticket

3378
03:18:37,520 --> 03:18:40,640
Speaker 1: sales back to normal. There will be a high level

3379
03:18:40,720 --> 03:18:44,640
Speaker 1: of walk up traffic. There's gonna be a high level

3380
03:18:44,720 --> 03:18:46,879
Speaker 1: of Oh, I didn't know I was gonna do something

3381
03:18:46,920 --> 03:18:51,359
Speaker 1: to Thursday tomorrow, I'm going out. It's even people on Friday.

3382
03:18:51,440 --> 03:18:55,720
Speaker 1: We're doing something tonight, Baby in Town, Dirk in Town. Right,

3383
03:18:56,520 --> 03:19:01,840
Speaker 1: But if you're a hippop insider, you don't go just

3384
03:19:02,120 --> 03:19:04,520
Speaker 1: off man, ain't setting no tickets. You consider, yo, it

3385
03:19:04,720 --> 03:19:06,920
Speaker 1: is the pandemic. Though, hold on, y'all, be careful. It

3386
03:19:07,080 --> 03:19:10,120
Speaker 1: is the pandemic. You know, so maybe people baby the

3387
03:19:10,200 --> 03:19:12,840
Speaker 1: walk up game will be crazy. Then you look at comedy,

3388
03:19:12,920 --> 03:19:15,080
Speaker 1: what are they doing, you know, as they walk up

3389
03:19:15,120 --> 03:19:17,800
Speaker 1: game crazy? What are other events doing before you make

3390
03:19:17,879 --> 03:19:20,400
Speaker 1: that bolt of a statement. In my opinion, I just

3391
03:19:20,560 --> 03:19:25,000
Speaker 1: think you should have a little bit more um, a

3392
03:19:25,080 --> 03:19:30,240
Speaker 1: little bit more um sensitivity, you know, a little bit

3393
03:19:30,320 --> 03:19:34,920
Speaker 1: more sensitivity than on making, because what does that you know?

3394
03:19:35,000 --> 03:19:37,760
Speaker 1: And if you was on one I podcast or something like,

3395
03:19:37,879 --> 03:19:40,080
Speaker 1: if you was talking to me, it wouldn't have went

3396
03:19:40,200 --> 03:19:42,280
Speaker 1: that far because I would have been able to push back.

3397
03:19:42,800 --> 03:19:45,520
Speaker 1: But the thing gets you talking a show to he

3398
03:19:45,640 --> 03:19:48,440
Speaker 1: really kind of he's trusting what you're saying as the

3399
03:19:48,560 --> 03:19:51,520
Speaker 1: hip hop inside a guy, so he trusting what you're

3400
03:19:51,560 --> 03:19:55,000
Speaker 1: saying and just taking it as okay, okay, okay, oh

3401
03:19:56,080 --> 03:19:59,360
Speaker 1: oh okay, okay. He's taking that as for what it's

3402
03:19:59,360 --> 03:20:01,880
Speaker 1: worth because you you gotta pop in Instagram and a

3403
03:20:02,040 --> 03:20:05,400
Speaker 1: deal with so they're taking that. Had you been talking

3404
03:20:05,440 --> 03:20:07,200
Speaker 1: to one of us, it had been some pushback. Now

3405
03:20:07,360 --> 03:20:10,640
Speaker 1: bre you crazy bro babing them? Man? The people coming out, Yo,

3406
03:20:10,680 --> 03:20:13,480
Speaker 1: it's the pandemic. We're straight out of coronavirus. Bro, We're

3407
03:20:13,520 --> 03:20:16,240
Speaker 1: not gonna like somebody would have pushed back on that.

3408
03:20:17,080 --> 03:20:20,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But oftentimes what we do

3409
03:20:20,280 --> 03:20:24,600
Speaker 1: to each other's black people, right, it's easy for me

3410
03:20:24,760 --> 03:20:29,039
Speaker 1: to it's easy for me to shit on you. Well,

3411
03:20:29,080 --> 03:20:30,760
Speaker 1: it ain't easy for me to shit on you. But

3412
03:20:31,360 --> 03:20:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking for affirmation where if it comes from. So

3413
03:20:35,400 --> 03:20:38,880
Speaker 1: if I get some affirmation because I'm over here with

3414
03:20:40,200 --> 03:20:43,440
Speaker 1: Andrew shouts in them and they slicking smart over here,

3415
03:20:44,040 --> 03:20:46,240
Speaker 1: and they know some things about some things that I

3416
03:20:46,360 --> 03:20:50,080
Speaker 1: may not know, I gotta provide something that they may

3417
03:20:50,200 --> 03:20:54,440
Speaker 1: not know. You understand me, and I know you may

3418
03:20:54,520 --> 03:20:57,080
Speaker 1: not have kept up with what I'm saying. But sometimes

3419
03:20:57,200 --> 03:21:00,800
Speaker 1: people get into this place where you know, they want

3420
03:21:00,800 --> 03:21:03,240
Speaker 1: to they want to they want to give some value

3421
03:21:03,320 --> 03:21:09,440
Speaker 1: to this. So so they so they started misrepresenting, you know,

3422
03:21:09,560 --> 03:21:13,360
Speaker 1: the facts, you know what I'm saying. And the facts were, yes,

3423
03:21:13,560 --> 03:21:18,280
Speaker 1: they were they It wasn't selling a lot of tickets

3424
03:21:18,520 --> 03:21:23,040
Speaker 1: like pre orders and sixty days out people by like

3425
03:21:23,200 --> 03:21:26,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't. But we're coming out of a pandemic, and

3426
03:21:26,720 --> 03:21:30,119
Speaker 1: that should have been considered. The pandemic effect. The way

3427
03:21:30,160 --> 03:21:32,440
Speaker 1: that people go to concerts. People don't even know if

3428
03:21:32,440 --> 03:21:35,080
Speaker 1: they'll be living in two months. Folks don't know if

3429
03:21:35,120 --> 03:21:38,560
Speaker 1: they'll be sick A week before that day. Folks didn't

3430
03:21:38,560 --> 03:21:40,920
Speaker 1: know I was gonna get vaccinated before that day. Like

3431
03:21:41,000 --> 03:21:44,119
Speaker 1: it's a certain things going on, Like, oh, they got

3432
03:21:44,200 --> 03:21:46,480
Speaker 1: COVID tests. I can take now the before I go

3433
03:21:46,640 --> 03:21:49,879
Speaker 1: in and everybody's gonna be tested. They just implemented that rule. Yeah,

3434
03:21:49,920 --> 03:21:53,400
Speaker 1: I gon't even go now. You know, everybody was scared

3435
03:21:53,480 --> 03:21:56,000
Speaker 1: to do stuff coming out for this, So I just

3436
03:21:56,160 --> 03:21:58,520
Speaker 1: think it was, Um, you gotta be a little more

3437
03:21:58,600 --> 03:22:01,280
Speaker 1: careful with your platform. And I don't think you meant

3438
03:22:01,360 --> 03:22:04,320
Speaker 1: no ill will you. You're in a fortunate situation to

3439
03:22:04,400 --> 03:22:06,480
Speaker 1: be able to say those things and then p reach

3440
03:22:06,560 --> 03:22:09,600
Speaker 1: out to you and give your game about what happened

3441
03:22:09,640 --> 03:22:15,480
Speaker 1: and things like that, so hopefully, um, you know, you know,

3442
03:22:15,600 --> 03:22:18,600
Speaker 1: the game provides you with the luxury to learn from

3443
03:22:19,800 --> 03:22:22,560
Speaker 1: learn from anything that you would consider a mistake. Now,

3444
03:22:22,680 --> 03:22:25,480
Speaker 1: my name is My name is larn and I'm gonna

3445
03:22:25,520 --> 03:22:27,280
Speaker 1: look at the game for what the game is worth.

3446
03:22:27,440 --> 03:22:31,640
Speaker 1: You know, I provide a certain level of understanding. You know,

3447
03:22:31,720 --> 03:22:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm carving out you know, I'm carving out my

3448
03:22:36,440 --> 03:22:38,880
Speaker 1: brand in the game. I'm carving out my space and

3449
03:22:38,959 --> 03:22:42,160
Speaker 1: the culture. I'm placing myself in in a position to

3450
03:22:42,280 --> 03:22:45,640
Speaker 1: be able to change my family life based on my

3451
03:22:45,840 --> 03:22:48,720
Speaker 1: understanding of the game and the culture. And it's just

3452
03:22:48,879 --> 03:22:52,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Man. I want to you know, as

3453
03:22:52,520 --> 03:22:55,080
Speaker 1: as I close out the part, I want to tell everybody,

3454
03:22:55,720 --> 03:22:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, I thank you for listening. You know, I

3455
03:22:58,120 --> 03:23:04,400
Speaker 1: thank you for supporting you know. UM, we we we

3456
03:23:04,600 --> 03:23:07,400
Speaker 1: we got a long fight ahead of us. You know,

3457
03:23:07,560 --> 03:23:09,680
Speaker 1: we're in it for the long haul. We're planning to

3458
03:23:09,760 --> 03:23:15,960
Speaker 1: be around giving game, UH, providing the culture with moments

3459
03:23:16,080 --> 03:23:20,400
Speaker 1: being the conversation starts and um and picking the brains

3460
03:23:20,440 --> 03:23:23,200
Speaker 1: and some of our greats you know, and UM. Hopefully

3461
03:23:23,959 --> 03:23:29,200
Speaker 1: at some point, uh, they recognize us and and and

3462
03:23:29,400 --> 03:23:33,200
Speaker 1: and give us an opportunity to provide the coaching in

3463
03:23:33,320 --> 03:23:37,080
Speaker 1: the world with a different outlook. UM. But again, if

3464
03:23:37,120 --> 03:23:38,920
Speaker 1: you're listening to this point, I want to thank you.

3465
03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:42,680
Speaker 1: My name is long. UM. It's up there podcast. I'll

3466
03:23:42,720 --> 03:23:46,279
Speaker 1: see you guys next week. UM. Make sure you subscribe

3467
03:23:46,280 --> 03:23:48,800
Speaker 1: to Patreon. It's up there with y'all. Make sure you

3468
03:23:48,920 --> 03:23:52,680
Speaker 1: send me a DM of some crazy story. Let's get

3469
03:23:52,760 --> 03:23:55,640
Speaker 1: that out. Let's speak with us, speak about it. UM.

3470
03:23:55,720 --> 03:23:57,560
Speaker 1: If you got some game for the people, and you

3471
03:23:57,680 --> 03:24:00,440
Speaker 1: want to give some game out um and you do

3472
03:24:00,600 --> 03:24:05,240
Speaker 1: credit sweeping and these things legally, reach out to us

3473
03:24:05,240 --> 03:24:09,800
Speaker 1: and we'll figure something out. If you're a sponsor, there's

3474
03:24:09,800 --> 03:24:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot going on with me. I want to say that,

3475
03:24:13,640 --> 03:24:15,840
Speaker 1: if you're a sponsor, there's a lot going on with me,

3476
03:24:17,920 --> 03:24:20,200
Speaker 1: and you probably want to get involved with me at

3477
03:24:20,280 --> 03:24:25,560
Speaker 1: this very very unique stage I'm in because we're about

3478
03:24:25,600 --> 03:24:29,320
Speaker 1: to pivot fast. Let's get some money though FOJFO TV

3479
03:24:29,480 --> 03:24:32,800
Speaker 1: on YouTube, It's up There podcast. We appreciate everybody that's

3480
03:24:32,840 --> 03:24:35,879
Speaker 1: tapped in, tuned d and locked in. Man, share this again.

3481
03:24:36,240 --> 03:24:38,519
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's ten people on your Facebook

3482
03:24:38,800 --> 03:24:42,520
Speaker 1: and ten people on your Instagram. Every time I post

3483
03:24:42,560 --> 03:24:45,880
Speaker 1: if you rock with me, share it. I need to

3484
03:24:46,040 --> 03:24:48,600
Speaker 1: get the people on my side. It's Up There podcast,

3485
03:24:48,720 --> 03:24:49,400
Speaker 1: the biggest one.