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Speaker 1: And welcome in Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, September twenty second, The over Lord

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, brought to you as always my Academy

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Speaker 2: Sports and Outdoors. It's never easier to spot a casual

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Speaker 2: than weeks like these. We are jam packed high atap

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Speaker 2: a suddenly fall like downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Look, I gotta

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Speaker 2: be real, they are lying to you about week four.

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Speaker 2: I think you know who I mean when I say

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Speaker 2: they the truth about Week four in mere moments upset

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Speaker 2: Alert Meter.

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Speaker 1: We do it every Thursday. We're gonna do it again tonight.

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Speaker 2: We've got some games pegging pretty high on the upset

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Speaker 2: alert Meter. I need to take this evening and say

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Speaker 2: a few words about one Michael Ray Gundy, or you

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Speaker 2: may know him as the Oklahoma state head coach. It's

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Speaker 2: that time of year, important anniversaries upon us. Also gonna

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Speaker 2: add several best bets under the Rominudele Express. And if

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Speaker 2: you have not heard of the news already, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get hot this week. I've already seen it, I've already

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Speaker 2: dreamed it. So it's just it's about forty eight hours away.

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Speaker 2: Cedar Rapids, Iowa, is tuned in, Eldorado, Arkansas, tuned in

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Speaker 2: Fort and Mitchell, Alabama, near where I came from, they're

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Speaker 2: tuned in, and Austin, Texas is tuned in. We will

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Speaker 2: be as of tomorrow in Knoxville, Tennessee for Florida, Tennessee

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Speaker 2: this Saturday. We will have Academy gift cards in every

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Speaker 2: pocket imaginable, and we will have plenty of fun and

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Speaker 2: excitement in store over there. But make sure make sure,

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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you this again at the end of

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Speaker 2: the show, make sure you are following on Instagram. You'll

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Speaker 2: get a lot of content this Saturday you wouldn't get otherwise.

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Speaker 2: But also, as I said the other night, and as

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Speaker 2: I'll reiterate in a little while, there are games that

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Speaker 2: we're going to move on this week that I am

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Speaker 2: not given out tonight, and we're not moving on yet

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Speaker 2: because I know we're gonna get some favorable line movement

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Speaker 2: and I'm not taking soft numbers when we don't need to.

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Speaker 2: So at late Kick, Josh, make sure you're following, if

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Speaker 2: for no other reason than that, We'll see you guys

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Speaker 2: in Knoxville tomorrow. I'm gonna have a special special guest

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Speaker 2: in toe with me. All right, So look, here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: Week four is being lied about. Some people are telling

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Speaker 2: you Week four is sort of a sleepy week in

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Speaker 2: college football. Now, mind you, these are the same people

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Speaker 2: who say they're tired of the same teams hogging all

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Speaker 2: the spotlight. Yet when Bama's playing Vanderbilt and George's playing

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Speaker 2: Kent or whoever they're playing, those are the same people

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Speaker 2: who tell you all this is gonna be a good week. Well,

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Speaker 2: how about you live up to the reputation you're trying

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Speaker 2: to make for yourselves and look past the top layer

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Speaker 2: of this sport and understand I got one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 2: I got seven games to talk to you about right

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Speaker 2: now that I think make up a dynamite weekend ahead.

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Speaker 2: It's just not number one versus number three. Every one

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Speaker 2: of them's not a top ten matchup. There's a ton,

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Speaker 2: I mean a ton to be excited about. Let me

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Speaker 2: talk about Minnesota Michigan State for just second. Michigan State

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Speaker 2: goes up to Washington last week. Michigan State goes to Washington.

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Speaker 2: Horrific performance, run game, nonexistent past defense, no exit. Now

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Speaker 2: they got their backs against the wall, wounded animal mode,

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Speaker 2: at home. They are a three point dog at home

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Speaker 2: and that has crossed zero by the way, so Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Flett taking the crew out on the road for the

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Speaker 2: first time this year. Let me tell you what to

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Speaker 2: watch mo Ibrahim. You remember how he's the running back

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Speaker 2: for Minnesota, got hurt in the first game last year.

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Speaker 2: extremely well because he's an extremely good player. One thing

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Speaker 2: Michigan State can do is they can limit the run.

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Speaker 2: They have not given up a one hundred yard rushing

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Speaker 2: performance in their last sixteen games defensively, so that's not

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Speaker 2: Tanner Morgan at quarterback and Kirk Shiraka calling.

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Speaker 1: Plays, and you should be. I happen to think there'll

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Speaker 2: Few more points scored in this game than the oddsmakers do.

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Speaker 2: this game. That's the first, that's certainly not the only,

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Speaker 1: The next one takes place.

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Speaker 2: This is close to home for me, not geographically, but

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Speaker 2: This is Dave Randa versus Matt Campbell. Now I've got

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Speaker 2: it on good authority. They're not going to play a

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Speaker 2: Please twenty twelve. According to stats and AKA producer Jesse.

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Speaker 2: This game's been close for a while. The last three

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Speaker 2: times these teams have played. They play every year. Last

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Speaker 2: possession games all over the place. Iowa State really good

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Speaker 2: But also Iowa State in this game last year out

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Speaker 2: gained Baylor by nearly two hundred yards and still lost

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Speaker 2: And it's a game I still remember vividly because I

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested here because Iowa State, unlike last year,

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Speaker 2: they have been forcing turnovers this year.

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Speaker 2: So pretty good quarterback play plus in the turnover margin.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy how a season can turn around, how fortunes

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Speaker 1: Really good games by this week. Let's just look ahead

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Speaker 2: I got Dave Randa already with a loss on their

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Speaker 1: What does the matter with you? People? Next up? We're

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Speaker 1: not even close to dunn USC at Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: Good friend of the program, Yogi Roth, trying to peer

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Speaker 2: the right place. USC opened as a seven point favorite,

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Speaker 2: and then that line's just come down and down and down,

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Speaker 2: you didn't, I'm about to tell you. Oregon State eight

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Speaker 2: They've done really well for themselves. They have a construction

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Speaker 2: If you want to know why this line is so low,

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Speaker 2: reiterate USC has already plus ten in turnovers this year,

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Speaker 2: at this level in turnover margin. Now you're misunderstanding me

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Speaker 2: if you think I'm trying to discount their record so far,

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Speaker 2: I'm not. There is skill in doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: So you may look and you may think, oh, USC,

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Speaker 2: based on the results they've had so far, easily double

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Speaker 1: Oddsmakers look at it and saying, well, if it's an.

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Speaker 2: Even turnover battle, then maybe not. So that is going

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Speaker 2: So let's keep an eye on that. Let me refresh

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, this is one that I've been talking to

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Speaker 2: cover it the other night Texas at Texas Tech, and

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Speaker 2: this thing's gotten all the way up to a seven

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Speaker 2: point spread now in favor of the Longhorns. Quinn Ewers

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Speaker 2: to start at quarterback, but it sounds for all the

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Speaker 2: world like he's very close to returning. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: it is still on Hudson Card and this ground game.

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Speaker 2: And when I say ground game, I want to emphasize

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Speaker 2: Hudson Cards is going to have to make some plays.

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Speaker 1: That's what quarterbacks have to do. That's no breaking news.

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Speaker 2: But it's also the first time that we get to

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Speaker 2: see this young but very rapidly improving Texas offensive line

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Speaker 2: go on the road. We don't know what to quantify,

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Speaker 2: But I'm very interested because it's something that a lot

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Speaker 1: But yet we get to game week single digit spread.

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Speaker 2: We know they got West Virginia at home next week,

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Speaker 2: then they got the Oklahoma game, so they're two weeks away.

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Speaker 1: For a point of reference from that Oklahoma game.

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Speaker 2: Lubbock Texas, I mean Lubbock Texas will be on fire

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Speaker 2: this weekend. Texas tech folks are really excited about this program,

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Speaker 2: and they're really excited about Joey McGuire, new head coach.

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Speaker 2: What a scalp to put on the wall if they

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Speaker 1: So I'm not all that.

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Speaker 1: Duke, excuse me, let me re, Let me.

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Speaker 2: You've acted like you've watched film on that kid. You've

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Speaker 2: It's been fairly simple to pick games so far. We

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Speaker 2: So on top of the problems I already have in

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Speaker 1: I will admit this about myself.

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Speaker 2: Now, we had Notre Dame rated lower than most of

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Speaker 2: Just kind of fascinated by it. I'm not betting it,

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Speaker 2: So look, we are headed to Knoxville this week and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you more about it Sunday and especially more

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Speaker 2: Our friends up in Lexington, Kentucky, I am doing you

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Speaker 2: I promise you you have my word on that. Where

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Speaker 2: I'll bump it up one peg on the upset Alert

437
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 2: meter for the next game because we got to talk

438
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: about Wisconsin Ohio State. This one's a four for me.

439
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people talk about this game

440
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 2: this week. I did a couple of radio hits about

441
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 2: this game this week, and every time people asked if

442
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: Wisconsin is capable of carrying out the Notre Dame blueprint,

443
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: and I keep looking at them in a very confused

444
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: manner because I am convinced a majority of the country

445
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: has forgotten. Ohio State won the game by eleven points. Guys,

446
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: what is the Notre Dame blueprint? Lose by double digits?

447
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: The Notre Dame blueprint? I understand what they're trying to say.

448
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: The Notre Dame blueprint is limit Ohio State offensively and

449
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 2: what and what?

450
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: You know what Notre Dame couldn't do score?

451
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: You know what Wisconsin may not be able to do

452
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 2: Saturday score, And I know what Ohio States eventually gonna do.

453
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you limit them every bit as

454
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: much offensively as Notre.

455
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: Dame did, do you have enough to outscore them.

456
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: And when I go back and I watched that Washington

457
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: State game, which is Wisconsin's loss so far this year,

458
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: did they shoot themselves in the foot a ton? Sure,

459
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: they did a ton of penalties turnovers. Yeah, well that

460
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: was in the friendly confines of Camp Randall.

461
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: So you go on the road. Now, what am I

462
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: supposed to be?

463
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: Am?

464
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: I supposed to expect Wisconsin to live up to the

465
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: theme that I talked about earlier in the week. Remember

466
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Speaker 2: I said Week four is normally one of the last

467
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: times of a college football season where a team gives

468
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: you a performance that they were always capable of, they

469
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: just hadn't shown yet. Hey, that's why we're talking about

470
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: the game. That's why it's a four on the one

471
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Speaker 2: to ten scale of the Upset Alert Meter, because, yeah,

472
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: that's in the cards. There is a performance that Wisconsin

473
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: has in them collectively that has them hanging right in

474
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: this game. And they run the ball effectively, and they

475
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: limit possessions and they defensively force some turnovers. Yeah, all

476
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: that's there, But man, they still got a score. I

477
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: just don't have confidence they can score enough. On your

478
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: best day in this game, you probably need twenty seven

479
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: to win would be my guess, and I do not

480
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: believe that that's there for them. So this is a four.

481
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: I respect the opponent. This is a four, but no more.

482
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: Now we go up significantly on the scale. Clemson versus

483
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: Wake Forest noon kickoff on ABC.

484
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Speaker 1: This one's a seven.

485
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: I mean, the line's only seven in the game, so

486
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: of course an upset is very much a possibility here.

487
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: A lot of times, I don't know how you think

488
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: about games. A lot of times, I think a majority

489
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: of people when they try and predict the game, they

490
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: visualized in their head how it would go. So I

491
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: think a lot of folks, knowing how this game played

492
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: out last year, Clemson had roughly half a mile rushing

493
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: and Wake was woful rushing and will be again in

494
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: this game. I think a lot of people just visualize

495
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: will Shipley running all over the place, two hundred and

496
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: fifty yards, three touchdowns, and Clumson just bleeds the life

497
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: out of Wake, And certainly I could visualize that too.

498
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if those exact numbers

499
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: were hung this Saturday. But in the way of upset,

500
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: there's a reason this number is only at seven.

501
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: So let's just visualize on the other side of the

502
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: fence for a second.

503
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: If it's Saturday afternoon and the dust has settled and

504
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: Wake has pulled the upset, how did it happen. Well,

505
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: it probably happened with a slow start for Clemson. Again,

506
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: we've seen it multiple times already this year. And there's

507
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: another thing we haven't seen yet. Brent Vinables is not

508
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator there anymore, and so far we haven't

509
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: really known what kind of impact that's had on this

510
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: team because they haven't faced anyone that could expose them.

511
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: Even if they do have some cracks defensively, their cracks

512
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: are not going to be upfront, regardless of who's coordinating

513
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: their defense. But if Wake has pulled the upset, they

514
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: have probably gotten some offensive output against Clemson's defense you

515
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: did not expect because we come to find out that

516
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: there is a little more vulnerability because of who they

517
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: lost at defensive coordinator. Now do I expect that, Not necessarily,

518
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: But there's a world where Wake pulls this upset, and

519
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about four o'clock Saturday afternoon, and those are

520
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: the things we're saying.

521
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: It's not out of the realm of possibility. I mean Clemson.

522
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: Clemson at this point would surprise me with a bunch

523
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: of fast starts offensively, so they could slog around a

524
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: little bit. But by and large I like Clemson. I

525
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: picked them to win and cover the other night. However,

526
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: I do have to acknowledge that on the upset meter, yeah,

527
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: this one should be about a seven.

528
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about another game here that we've already.

529
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: Picked, in a game that will be at Saturday, Florida

530
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: at Tennessee.

531
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Speaker 1: I know how this looks. I've listened all week.

532
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: You know, we have the benefit of sort of leading

533
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: the pack because we make our picks on Tuesday, and

534
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: then I hear what the rest of the country collectively

535
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: thinks after that.

536
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: And I know what the rest of the country thinks.

537
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: And I don't hear any.

538
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: Florida love out there, And yes, I don't have amnesia.

539
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: I know the lessons that this sport has taught us,

540
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: and this sport teaches us every week, and it is

541
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: usually as recently as the Florida Kentucky game. When everyone's

542
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: over there, you need to start looking over here. I

543
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: get it, I get it, I get it. So where

544
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: do we look if everyone's on Tennessee closure ears calling.

545
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: If everyone's on Tennessee, how does Florida pull the upset here? Well, first,

546
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you, I'm going to put this

547
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: at a five and a half on the upset alert meter.

548
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm very confident in Tennessee Saturday, very confident. I've had

549
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: confidence in teams already this year who have let me down.

550
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: So that confidence in and of itself does not mean anything.

551
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: If Tennessee is bad on third down offensively, it does

552
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: two things. The first is obvious, it limits their ability

553
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: to score. But the other thing is it neuters what

554
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: could be their biggest edge in this game, and that

555
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: is tempo, and that is wearing Florida down. Well, if

556
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: you can't extend drives, you're not on the field enough

557
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: to where that matters. And then, especially if I'm able

558
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: to couple that first thing with Florida's ground game taking

559
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: over like I think it's capable of doing at some

560
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: point this year, and not only ground game, but then

561
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: properly utilizing their running backs, not just on the ground,

562
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: but if they really weaponize that running back stable and

563
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: they get Tennessee off the field on third down and

564
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: their secondary is good enough to do it. Ventrem Miller

565
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: and that linebacking corps a question mark because he's not playing,

566
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 2: but their secondary, Florida, is good enough to do it.

567
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: If those things happen, this is a game in the

568
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, And if it's a game in the fourth quarter,

569
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: then all this talk goes out the window if it

570
00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 2: didn't already. And I am not so blind as to

571
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: ignore that. Out of the past seventeen times these teams

572
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: have played, Florida's taken the win home sixteen of those

573
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: seventeen times. So even though I think a good day

574
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: is in store for tennessee five and a half on

575
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: the upside alert meter. One more way out west in Pullman, Washington,

576
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: Oregon is favored by six and a half. They're going

577
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: to Washington State. Hey, how about bow Nicks or his

578
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: former team Scruggle Bus City at quarterback. Now bow Knicks,

579
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham offensive coordinator, got that offense humming out there

580
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: in Eugene.

581
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: Now they go on the road, and you might ask yourself.

582
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Again, if Oregon looks so good outside of that Georgia pasting,

583
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: which they would have done to almost anyone outside of

584
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: that game. If Oregon looks so good. Why is this

585
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: line as low as it is? Well, the road matters

586
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: in college football, first off. Secondly, Washington State has got

587
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: a pretty decent quarterback of their own.

588
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: Thirdly, let me go back to point one.

589
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you keep track of such things,

590
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: but it has been since twenty ten when we've seen

591
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: Oregon win a game in Pullman by more than one possession.

592
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: The only exception is twenty twenty when they didn't allow

593
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: a crowd in there. So outside of the COVID year,

594
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: it has been a big struggle. It has been a

595
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: grinder of a game anytime Oregon's gone in there. And

596
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: they've had some really good teams over that stretch and

597
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: Washington State's had some really terrible teams over that stretch.

598
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: Just a hard place to go. And this Washington State

599
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: defense is very disruptive. They've forced a ton of sacks,

600
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: they have the ability to force turnovers. So the upset meter,

601
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: I've got this one at a seven. It's because we're

602
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: already on Washington State plus the points, and so if

603
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on them plus six, I mean, yeah,

604
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 2: I've got to selfishly hope that that's in the cards. Now,

605
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: I know over on Duck Territory dot com. That's not

606
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: what they want to hear. But this is the real

607
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: world out here, so we got to be real with ourselves.

608
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it in the six to seven range

609
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: on the upset alert meter. I have found that it's

610
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: a lot safer for us just put the number a

611
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: little bit higher on the upset alert meter and then

612
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: the upset not happened than it is for us to

613
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: put the number low and the upset does happen. Because

614
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: those are the sound bites that never leave you. They're

615
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: watching us in Waynesville, North Carolina, they're watching us in Wichita, Kansas,

616
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: and they're watching us in Macon, Georgia. Thank you so much.

617
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: Today's a special day. Today's a very special day. But

618
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: you know what was a special year two thousand and seven.

619
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: So I'm aware how massive our high school and college

620
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: audience is. It's the biggest chunk of audience. It's the

621
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: biggest demo we have. And I am also aware that

622
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: you guys, some of you have your driver's license and

623
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: are not old enough to remember two thousand and seven.

624
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: In two thousand and seven, you've heard stories about how

625
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: crazy that year was. But for someone who lived through it,

626
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: when you talk about two thousand and seven, you can

627
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: just start rattling off memories. But for you guys, you've

628
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: just heard stories about it, it.

629
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: May not resonate with you.

630
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: And so you've seen the soundbites, you've heard the stories,

631
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: But man, that two thousand and seven, it just hits

632
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 2: a little different for people who live through it. And

633
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: today's a very special anniversary. Today we mark the fifteen

634
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: year anniversary of one Michael Ray Gundy yelling like a

635
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: jackhammer operator at the assembled media out there in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

636
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: And I could provide you the context here, but I

637
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: don't even think it's necessary this.

638
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 1: Quote, this clipper're about to show you.

639
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: It lives in such infamy or infamously as some of

640
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: my other buddies would say at this.

641
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Point, that I just want you to enjoy it for

642
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: what it was.

643
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: And if you would, gentlemen, remove your caps and place

644
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: your hand over your heart, and let's salute the greatness

645
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: that was and is Mike Gundy.

646
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: If you want to go after an athlete, one of

647
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: my athletes, you go after one that doesn't do the

648
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: right things. You don't downgrade him because he does everything

649
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: right and may not play as well on Saturday, and

650
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: you let us make that decision. That's why I don't

651
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: read a newspaper because it's garbage and the editor that

652
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: let it come out is garbage. Attacking an amateur athlete

653
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: for doing everything right, and then you want to write

654
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: articles about guys that don't do things right and downgrade

655
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: him the ones that do make plays?

656
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

657
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: Where are we at in society today?

658
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Come after me.

659
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not a kid.

660
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: Write something about me or our coaches writing.

661
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: About a kid that does everything right that's heart's broken.

662
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: Where are we at as a society? I still ask

663
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: that question today? Thank you, Michael ray Gundy. I didn't

664
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: realize it at the time, mainly because I didn't have

665
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: my own show, But years later I have realized, after

666
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: some further reflection on that his overall record, all the

667
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: Dude's done is just stayed out there and win. I

668
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: mean he he is one of precious few coaches that

669
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: still have their job at the same employer that they

670
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: were added in two thousand and seven.

671
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, how many more are there?

672
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: Saban's won, He had just gotten Alabama, Mike Gandhy's been

673
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Mike Gandhy has survived the entire Nick Saban rain at Alabama.

674
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: How many more can say that? So I've thought about

675
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: Mike Gundy a little bit more lately because there have

676
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: been some there have been some subjects that have entered

677
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: his crosshairs that have been on our radar for a

678
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: long time here, like, for instance, as we've gone headfirst

679
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: into this whole college football playoff expansion or conference realignment thing.

680
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: Because even if you disagree with me on playoff expansion,

681
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: pretty much all of you are in line with me

682
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: on college football realignment. We're not huge fans of it

683
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: because of what it's costing us. So recently there was

684
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: this big dust up out in Oklahoma, and they've known

685
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: it was coming, but it was finally made official that

686
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Bedlam Oklahoma versus Oklahoma State.

687
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: It will not continue. It will cease as a rivalry.

688
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: Why because Oklahoma's coming to the SEC and they can't

689
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: continue it. And so recently, as recently as this week,

690
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: there was that headline and Mike Gundhy, I swear to you,

691
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: I keep watching him out there and he is not

692
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: handling these situations any differently than I would.

693
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: So I have to salute this Colins show him the clip.

694
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Dou's officials were in negotiations with the SEC for months

695
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: and months for anybody in this league or the conference

696
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: to about it.

697
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: The objections.

698
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: During those multi billion dollars conversations. I wonder if Bedlam

699
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: was ever brought up at that point instead of the money. Okay,

700
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: bedlom is history.

701
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: We all know that.

702
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: If we've known that, because oh, you chose to follow

703
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: Texas and the money to the SEC when Oklahoma State

704
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: has no part in this. We didn't have anything to

705
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: do with.

706
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Their negotiations with SCC.

707
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: We didn't have any choice on choosing to leave the poets.

708
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: They did.

709
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: So everybody needs to get over its long qut trying

710
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: to turn the tables. It's somewhat comical that they still

711
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: want to bring us into disaquination.

712
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: It's a shame, you know.

713
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: Mike Gundy is walking out into the sun with the

714
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: ice cream cone and he's looking you in the eye

715
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: and he's telling you this thing's gonna melt.

716
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. You got to get

717
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: over it.

718
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: Mike Gundhy as of late, has been pretty outspoken on

719
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: a number of issues. But did you notice what he

720
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: did there? He paused like three different times. Colin and Jesse,

721
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: you saw this when we were cutting this video. He

722
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: had a little prepared statement on something that looked a

723
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: lot like Mike Leach's play sheet. And so he is

724
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: he is reading his prepared statement, but he keeps stopping,

725
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: looking around.

726
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: At the media saying, am I right, Yeah, no objections?

727
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: Okay, continue, because then you can't be running your typewriter

728
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: or I guess your laptop these days and banging out

729
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: nine hundred words on why Mike Gundy is wrong. He

730
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: gave you a chance every twenty seconds to tell him

731
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: he was wrong. Beautifully done. If we had a studio audience,

732
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: I would do that constantly anyway. It wasn't that long

733
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: ago that Mike Gundy also stepped up when the rest

734
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: of the refrain from college football from these coaches about

735
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: playoff expansion, we're gonna get a better shot at getting in.

736
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: Mike Gundhy stepped up and said, well, yeah, I mean

737
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a better chance to get in, But

738
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: what does getting in really mean? And also what does

739
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: the regular season really mean?

740
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Now?

741
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to enter this argument again, everyone's got

742
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: their mind made up, and I know there's a huge

743
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: chunk of our audience that is pro expansion, and they

744
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: don't like when I talk about it because they want

745
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: to agree with me, and they know they're not going

746
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: to agree there.

747
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to do that full song and

748
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: dance again to now.

749
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: I do, though, for just my own posterity, want you

750
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 2: to take a listen to one Michael Ray Gundy on expansion.

751
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: The geographical locations of conferences and traditions of college football

752
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: are gone, and more so now than they were two

753
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: weeks ago.

754
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Right, we see that.

755
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: So you adapt and change and deal with it, or

756
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: you get out of the game if you don't think

757
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: you like it, if you're old school. I'm a little

758
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: old school, but I can adjust and make changes based

759
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: on it's not going to go away.

760
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: This is a big business now.

761
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: When conference alignment started a year ago, whenever it started jumping,

762
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: there was a lot of people that were unhappy. But

763
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: those people aren't the ones that are making the decisions

764
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: at the top. And so the ones making decisions at

765
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: the top are going to decide the future and the

766
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: history of college football.

767
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: Not us, not us not us.

768
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: That's a little bit more about realignment the playoff expansion.

769
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: But you get my point. There's Colin, could you go

770
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: to whatever this camera is over here? One A?

771
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: Could you go to one A for a second. So

772
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: you notice over here we've got our YouTube award, and

773
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: we got some thermi which is the plural of thermos,

774
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: and we have enough room for another chair. This desk

775
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: is made for really a three or four person panel.

776
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: We've just reconfigured it, and we've reconfigured all of our

777
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: settings in here for a solo host choke.

778
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: But if I were to.

779
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: Ever roll another chair in here, it's not Brandon Walker

780
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: that I'd want to put over here. I think that

781
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: I would just want Mike Gundhy. He would never be

782
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: overly demonstrative. It's not two thousand and seven anymore. You

783
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: can see he doesn't get worked up. He's mellowed out

784
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: a little bit. But it would just it would be

785
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: like a perfect little game of verbal ping pong. I

786
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: tee him up and hit slam it home, and then

787
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: hit tee it up and I slam it home. And

788
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: I really think we would do good numbers. I don't

789
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: know how much longer he plans on coaching maybe forever,

790
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: but man like I would do an hour per week

791
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: with Mike Gundhy and I just I never realized it

792
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: until recently. He's always measured in what he says out there.

793
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: He doesn't really care. In fact, he goes out of

794
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: his way to tell you, look, people, just get over it.

795
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: You know it is what it is. But I like

796
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: the guy, and he's a winner, and they recruit so steadily.

797
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: Their classes have averaged in the thirty to thirty five

798
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: range like every year, and their finish has averaged in

799
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: the five to fifteen range year.

800
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: He's so good. Is to look at their past twelve seasons.

801
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: If you're listening on podcasts, I'm gonna start in twenty ten.

802
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 2: These are how many games they've won ten eleven, twelve, eight, ten, seven, ten, ten,

803
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: ten seven eight COVID year eight anyway, twelve. There are

804
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people out there recruiting a lot better classes,

805
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: making a lot more money, I would presume than Mike Gundy,

806
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: who aren't doing a fraction of what he's doing. And

807
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: let me tell you, I know nothing about this, but blindly,

808
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: if I had a job opening, I would at least

809
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: call him close your ears in stillwater. I would at

810
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: least call him the game certainly hasn't passed him by.

811
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: I'd just selfishly be interested in what he would do

812
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: at a more high profile place. Now here's the counter

813
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: to that culture is ultra important, and he has it

814
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: absolutely figured out. Now the layman would look and say, ooh,

815
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: imagine how much better he would be if we gave

816
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: him a couple of four stars and a few five

817
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: stars per class.

818
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, he may not be better at all.

819
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: In fact, it may be that that would disrupt what

820
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: they do out there. There's a lot to be said

821
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: for getting the right pieces to do what you do.

822
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: And it may be like Chip Kelly at Oregon once

823
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: upon a time, he was doing what he was doing

824
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: with a bunch of three.

825
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Stars out there. Well, in his system, they weren't three stars.

826
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: That's the point.

827
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: And so the beauty in what they did and what

828
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: Mike Gundhy's done is he's he's realized long ago, we're

829
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: not gonna get the kids Texas gets, we're not getting

830
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: kids Oklahoma gets. So let's just run a system here

831
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: and let's operate off a philosophy that capitalizes on the kids.

832
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: We can get so that's a little tangent there. But

833
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm a big Mike Gundy guy. I've just I've realized

834
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: that semi recently. I'm a big Mike Gundy guy. And look,

835
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State is very good again this year, and I've

836
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: made it a point. Oklahoma State is now last year's Arkansas.

837
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Got to find a way to go see Oklahoma State

838
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: at least once this year. Plus they keep putting us

839
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: in their hype videos and that never hurts.

840
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Believe me, it never hurts.

841
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: We have to add some games to the Rominul Express

842
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: this week. I've already given you the spoiler. Are gonna

843
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: be hot this week. I feel it, feel it, I

844
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: feel it. But before we do that, we've got to

845
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: talk about something that's it's a little somber, but it's necessary.

846
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: We had a question earlier today that I thought we

847
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: had time for on the show, and we do, and

848
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: it was about disappointing teams this year so far. Look

849
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: at Cody's question here. Season has been wild. What's your

850
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: most disappointing team so far? Well, Cody, if I gave

851
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: you one team, it wouldn't be really good for our

852
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: algorithm because it would be like a two minute video.

853
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you three teams. Notre Dame is

854
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: my most disappointing team so far this year. It's the

855
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: first zero to two start since twenty eleven. They are

856
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: coming off most recently. I think the last time you

857
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: saw them was off that loss to Marshall and they

858
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: were twenty and a half point home favorites there and

859
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: that was tied for like the third worst loss. It

860
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: was bad stats, a lot of bad stats coming out

861
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: of that game. So right now they go into this

862
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: week at North Carolina, they have three passing touchdowns, they

863
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: have three intersects. It has been terrible. They beat Cal

864
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: last week, so they got back on track. That's Marcus

865
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: Freeman's first win as head coach at Notre Dame. They

866
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: are one hundred and thirteenth in points per game this year. Now,

867
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you I expected something drastically different than that.

868
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I expected them to be better than

869
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: the bottom fifth of college football. Yeah, I expected them

870
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: to be a little bit better than that. So Notre

871
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: Dame so far has been my most underachieving, disappointing team.

872
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: And the other part of that Marshall loss, as you

873
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: saw and as we've talked about already, was not just

874
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: that they got beat. Those upsets sometimes happened. It's normally

875
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: your minus five turnovers, it's normally they score seventeen non

876
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: offensive points, and it's just a crazy day. That wasn't

877
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: what that game was like. They got physically owned against Marshall.

878
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: Keep going back to the Tim O'Malley quote. If this

879
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: game would have more quarters on it, Marshall would have

880
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: pulled away further and further. Not a good look. Not

881
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: a good look. So they've still got a lot of

882
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: season left. That means they still have a lot of

883
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: quality opponents left too. West Virginia's playing as we speak,

884
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: and intentionally I'm not looking at the screen over here

885
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: because I've got it.

886
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: I got it playing.

887
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: But regardless of what happens tonight, West Virginia has been

888
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: pretty disappointing as well. It's their first zero to two start,

889
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: or they had their first to two starts since nineteen

890
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: seventy nine. That's a long time ago, guys, long time ago.

891
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: Uh pitt in Kansas. Those are the two games that

892
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: you watch them lose to start the season. They finally

893
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: got to win against I think it was Toosand last week.

894
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: But man, that Kansas game, that was really a shock

895
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: to the census there. The Pit game could have gone

896
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: either way, and you know there's that hole. We should

897
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: have won whatever you didn't win. But the Kansas game,

898
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: I went back and watched it earlier today. I watched

899
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: the condensed version of it, and they were just stunned,

900
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: I think by the quarterback play that Kansas brought in there.

901
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: But what upset those folks the most is they watch

902
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Lance Leepold come in there.

903
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: He's been there less time than Neil Brown, and he's

904
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: overturned a program quicker than Neil Brown has and he

905
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,959
Speaker 2: beat them West Virginia in their own building, and understandably,

906
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: it did not sit right with him. It didn't sit

907
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 2: right with me, and I'm not even invested in the program.

908
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: But man, so they look around and they're just now

909
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: about to enter Big twelve play. They're playing Virginia Tech

910
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: right now. That's not even a conference game. They're about

911
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: to enter Big twelve play. And we did a hot

912
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: seat segment the other night and I threw Neil Brown

913
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: in there. I don't think he's there yet, but he's

914
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: at least being talked about when I talk to folks

915
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: that kind of live in that world. His name's on

916
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: the periphery. So at the very least, Yeah, it's been disappointing.

917
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: They could be rectifying it as we speak, for all

918
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: I know, but it's pretty disappointing. The third teams a

919
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: little off the radar. We haven't talked about him a lot,

920
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: but man, Boston College disappointing.

921
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: They are seventeen and a half.

922
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: Point dogs Saturday. To give you an idea, they play

923
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: Florida State, by the way, to give you an idea.

924
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: Our model loves Boston College Saturday loves them Pegsham is

925
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: one of the highest percentage cover probabilities of any team

926
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: in college football Saturday.

927
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna bet them. I'm gonna tell you why.

928
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that model grasps what's happening with Boston

929
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: College's offensive line because what's happening when they're o line

930
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: is basically off the scale of college football normalcy, and

931
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: so I don't think the model can even account for it.

932
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: So I think it's looking at that number and it

933
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 2: sees woll seventeen and a half. That's way too many points.

934
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: It's not it's not odds makers and people who have

935
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: bet that number up there, they know what they're doing.

936
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm staying far away from it.

937
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 2: They Boston College are averaging forty eight yards per rush

938
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: or forty eight total rushing yards a game. That's one

939
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 2: point seven. It's one of the worst numbers in college football. Also,

940
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: here's how bad the offensive line is there. Not only

941
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: can they not run the ball, they've allowed twenty five

942
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: tackles for loss this year, twelve sacks already through three games.

943
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: They've lost three projected offensive linemen. They've lost a tight end.

944
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: They are playing walk ons on offensive line.

945
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: It's so bad.

946
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Phil Drikovic is the starting quarterback there. They

947
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: can't even get out of the blocks. I mean, you

948
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: can understand how upset he's been. That's a guy who

949
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: has NFL potential. That's a guy who was supposed to

950
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: be using this year to hopefully take Boston College to

951
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: the next level. But at the very least, he was

952
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: a guy that was going to put twenty twenty two

953
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: on his NFL tape and his NFL draft tape. And

954
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: they're terrible and he can't get anything done as a result,

955
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: And so Boston College. I don't know what I expected

956
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: from him, but it was a lot better than this.

957
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: So I'll go Notre Dame, West Virginia and Boston College

958
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: is my three most disappointing teams. Okay, now, now it's

959
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: time to wrap the show with some best bets.

960
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: I've already given you a few of these.

961
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: We'll just reiterate and I will re reiterate at Lake

962
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: Kick Josh Instagram. It's imperative that you're following there. It

963
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: is a certainty that I'm going to add more games

964
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: on Friday night lines. I know because we've got multiple

965
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: games circled that I'm waiting for line movement on. So

966
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: in the interest of not full disclosure, you're gonna have

967
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: to wait until Friday night for those.

968
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: In the meantime, here's what we have.

969
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Washington State, we're already on plus six, Arkansas plus two

970
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: and a half. The over at forty eight and a

971
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: half in Arkansas A and M, so we're on the

972
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: side and the total in that game. Also, we're on

973
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: Stanford plus fourteen. That numbers come down, so I hope you.

974
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Got it before that.

975
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: We got multiple well, we got two added games tonight

976
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna end up having multiple added games. Yeah,

977
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking Michigan State. If you're giving me a full three,

978
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: which is available at many shops right now, I'm taking

979
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: Michigan State at home. Love the desperation angle, love it,

980
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: so we will take them against Minnesota plus three Texas Tech,

981
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: we are going to take even though there's not room

982
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: on the graphic, since Texas Tech got up to seven,

983
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: we will gladly chomp up those points. With the Red

984
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: Raiders model says about a sixty one zero point six

985
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: percent cover probability, we have to have seven as the number.

986
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: So Washington State plus six, RK plus two and a

987
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: half Hogs and Aggie's over forty eight and a half,

988
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: Stanford plus fourteen, Michigan State plus three, Texas Tech plus

989
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: seven for the last time, we are going to move

990
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: on more games. We're gonna have a good weekend. It

991
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: would not surprise me if we ended up on ten

992
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: games this week because there is a lot on the

993
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: board that we like.

994
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: I love that.

995
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: We're about to hit the road tomorrow and we're head

996
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: to Knoxville, Tennessee. We're doing some stuff over there tomorrow

997
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: with CBS Sports HQ. But Saturday, bright sunshine, much lower temperatures.

998
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: The every given Saturday tour will be right there on

999
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: the sideline at Nland Stadium. Looking very much forward to

1000
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: getting over there. It's Checker Neeland week.

1001
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely it is, so I'm looking forward to that.

1002
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Always have a good time on the road.

1003
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: For Direct Com. For producer Jess, I'm Josh Man. Thanks

1004
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: for as alreadys for making this show the success.

1005
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Than it is.

1006
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: We will be back here Sunday night with full wall

1007
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: to wall week before reaction. I think we've got a

1008
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: crazy week in store, So watch it and then we'll

1009
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: talk about it until they take care.

1010
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: We'll see us end a gunless