1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dim here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. Anchor will distribute it all for you 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Download the free Anchor app or go to anchor dot 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: fm to get started. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: On this week's episode in her Space. Not everyone and 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't share all the stuff that's happening, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: right We don't share the behind the scenes, and all 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: you see is the good stuff, and you're like, dang, 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: everybody else is living this amazing life. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: But we're taught that being an adult means that you 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: graduated from college, you're married, and you have children, not one, 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: but you have children multiple. Yeah, you have a flourishing career, 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: You have that twenty five hundred square foot house. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: You have to pick a fence, Yes, your drive. 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting women 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: like you. We're your costs. Doctor Dominique Broussard a college 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: professor and psychologist. 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: fibroids to fake friends and create a safe space where 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: black women can just be. 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: All right. 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Usually when I see my colleagues or peers doing something 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: and great and walking in their destinies, I get motivated. 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Right. 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: There's like a degree, if I want to say, like 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: healthy competition, and it energizes my spirit. When I watch 35 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: them thrive and I shout them out, I sent positive 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: vibes and I get back to the grind. But yesterday 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: was one of those days. Doun dundhuh. So Look, I'm 38 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: sitting on the couch scrolling down my timeline, take a 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: quick break from a project that I'm working on, and 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: I noticed that it seemed as though everyone air quotes. 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: Everyone I scrolled past was doing something amazing that I 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: wish I had the opportunity to do. It seemed as 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: though everyone's life was lit and my life was stagnant. 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Some of my friends had brand partnerships amazing. Other friends 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: were traveling abroad, I mean, like tod Bai, all these 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: amazing places, and for goodness sakes, one of my mentors 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: reached a million dollars in her business. An I get 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: to a house? 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: Can I get a million house? 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Like? 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Can I get an please? 52 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: Send it this way? You know? 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Yes? And instead of being inspired by greatness around me 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: in that moment, I felt a bit overwhelmed. I felt pressured. 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: I felt like I was reminded of everything I wanted 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: to do, everything I wanted to learn, and how much 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 2: work I needed to do. I still had to figure 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: out how to finish my site, how to get to 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: my business goals, and keep my energy up, live this 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: healthy life like all these things. I have to go 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: to work, you know, full time job, got a podcast 62 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: now hey her space podcast? But I felt blah basically, 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: and I silently wondered to myself, when am I going 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: to get to x y Z? When is this going 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: to happen for me? Am I capable of achieving x 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: y Z? 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: Like? 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever been there before? And you are? 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: You are doing amazing things already. But I think that 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: speaks to a bigger issue when someone when you know 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: that you're out here doing amazing things, and you are 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: still negatively comparing yourself to what other people are doing. 73 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: And so I think that kind of leads us right 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: into today's topic of adulting and what does it mean 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: to not reach some of these adulting milestones that we've 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: been conditioned to believe that we have to achieve. I'll 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: start us off with our quote of the day, don't 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: set sail on someone else's star. I'm gonna give y'all 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: that one more time, just to really let that sink in. 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 3: Don't set sail on someone else's star. That's deep, because 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: we do it. We find ourselves looking at other people 82 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: and looking at the things that other people are accomplishing 83 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: and trying to go after what they're achieving, when really 84 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: that's not meant for us. What are some of those 85 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: things teas you were like scrolling through your social media, 86 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: what were some of those things that you were seeing, Like, 87 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: what are some of those milestones? 88 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: To be honest, I think some of the milestones for 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: me were things that I saw for myself, like it 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: was in the vision that I had for my life, 91 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: and it was like I'm on the path, like I 92 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: want I want to be a millionaire, like that's always 93 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: my goal since I was in high school. I'm going 94 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: to be wealthy so I can help my community, help 95 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: my family, all that good stuff. So I think a 96 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: lot of the goals, a lot of the things that 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: I saw aligned with where I think I want to 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: go and what I have planned out for my life. 99 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: But I feel like social media, it constantly presents us 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: with everyone's highlights, right nobody, not everyone, and a lot 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: of people don't share all the stuff that's happening, right. 102 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: We don't share the behind the scenes, and all you 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 2: see is the good stuff, and you're like, dang, everybody 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: else's living this amazing life. But like you said, don't 105 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: sell on someone else's star. That makes me think about 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: how sometimes someone might have a goal in their life, 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: you don't know what it took for them to get there. 108 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: You don't know how they feel about their life. Maybe 109 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: they did achieve that goal, maybe they did hit a million, 110 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: but they're miserable. Maybe they don't have relationships with their 111 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: family members, And so I think, you know, because they 112 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: work so hard. But I think it's important to keep 113 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: things in perspective and to remember, like you know what 114 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: we always used to say this in church. What God 115 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: has for me is for me, right, So what's for 116 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: you is for you, and you'll get there when you're 117 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: supposed to. But it's just don't compare, because it's like 118 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: apples and oranges exactly. 119 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: But those apples and oranges are things that we're taught 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: we're supposed to have, right. So we're taught that being 121 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: an adult means that you graduated from college, you're married, 122 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: and you have children, not one, but you have children multiple. Yeah, 123 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: you have a flourishing career, you have that twenty five 124 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 3: hundred square house, you're driving a fancy car, and life 125 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: is great. And chances are you are probably a part 126 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: of various organizations, maybe a fraternity or a sorority. And 127 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: we're taught that those are the things that mean that 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: you made it, that you have, you're where you're supposed 129 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: to be in life. But the reality is that a 130 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: lot of us do not achieve those milestones. I know 131 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: plenty of people who didn't graduate college and they're still flourishing. 132 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: I know plenty of people who have never been married 133 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: and are flourishing, who have been married and divorced and 134 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: rema and divorced again and are flourishing. I know, and 135 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: this is an issue that we'll touch on later in 136 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: another episode. I know lots of people who struggle to 137 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: have children, but in general, their lives are still flourishing. 138 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: I know people who took multiple career paths, nothing that 139 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: they went to school for, nothing that they. 140 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Trained for initially exactly. 141 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: And we live in the Bay Area, so you not 142 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: both know lots of people who don't own homes. 143 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't own homes, don't have degrees, dropped out 144 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: of school. They're like, they're like you said, they're flourishing, 145 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: they're thriving. Yeah. So it's just like, I think, just 146 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: getting to the center of like what am I here 147 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: on this earthport, what do I want to achieve? And 148 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: like really being true to your personal vision for your 149 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: life and not being caught up in what your family wants. 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: Because I feel like we're at that age now where 151 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: it's like people are either like getting married, they're having kids, 152 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: they're buying homes, They're reaching these i want to say, 153 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: stereotypical or traditional milestones, and even family puts pressure on 154 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: you sometimes to reach those, like when you're gonna get married, 155 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: when you're gonna give me some babies, it's like, well, 156 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: what if that's not what I want from my life? 157 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: And being okay saying that and being in space is 158 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: where other people may not necessarily understand. But being comfortable 159 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: with where you are not feeling that pressure, right. 160 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing is first for yourself, 161 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: getting comfortable in that space that you really want to 162 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: be in, right and recognizing that this is the path 163 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: that you want for you, not the path that other 164 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: people have designed for you, exactly. And so and it 165 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: takes a lot to get to that space, really, you know, 166 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: it takes honesty with yourself because some of that might 167 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: mean having to toss away those stereotypes, toss away all 168 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: the messaging that you received. So if you're at a 169 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: space where you're like, you know what, marriage is not 170 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: for me, I know lots of people who are probably 171 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: saying right now, damn, damn, I wish I would have 172 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: thought about that ten years ago. 173 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 2: People that are married now, yeah, oh yes, girl, I've 174 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: had now that you say that. Okay, So I know 175 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: someone who oh, okay, this okay, this is juicy, all right. 176 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: So I married someone who graduated from college, checked off 177 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: all the boxes, right, she did all the things her house, 178 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: got her career, found a guy. He was okay, she 179 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: wasn't like super into him, but she's like, hey, okay, 180 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: my family is saying I need to get married. I 181 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: guess this is the next thing to do on my list, 182 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: So let's do it, you know, have some kids. Now 183 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: it's about ten eleven years down the line and she 184 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: wakes up and she's like, Eh, midlife crisis, this is 185 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: not really what I want. I did what everyone else 186 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: told me I should do. I did what society said 187 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: I should do. I checked off all the boxes that 188 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: they said I should check off. But that that shit 189 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: ain't what I want. So now I'm living this life. 190 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: I built, this life, created this family, created this whole 191 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: image world and image that I don't even want. So 192 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: now I got to revisit myself and figure out what 193 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: do I really want now that I have this extra 194 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: And I wouldn't say baggage, right because I don't think 195 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: you know, kids and families ever baggage. Just like now 196 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: I have these extra components of me that I have 197 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: to figure out how to fit into this new me 198 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: that I'm trying to find and create. That's a lot, 199 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: that is, and it's the reality for some folks when 200 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: when we aren't true to ourselves and give ourselves time 201 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: to figure out what we truly want and now what 202 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: everybody else wants. 203 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: For us, right, And my hope for her is that 204 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: she is finding what really makes her happy and really saying, 205 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: I don't care what other people saying, this is what 206 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: is working for me. And I think it takes a 207 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: lot of courage to get to that space of saying, 208 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: of being honest with your first with yourself and then 209 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: with those around you, to say, this is what I want. 210 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: It's not what looks traditional but and it's not what 211 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: everyone else envisioned for me, but this is what works 212 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: for me. 213 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: And you know what's funny too, people are so fickle, 214 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: right because I remember when I first got married. I 215 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: was I think I was like twenty five when I 216 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: first got married, and I have family members that were like, 217 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: wait to have a baby, don't have a baby anytime soon. 218 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: You want to be married for a couple of years, 219 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: da da da da. And so I as a career woman, 220 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to put having kids off anyway, 221 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: So I was very focused on my career. Then I'm 222 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: married for a couple of years. I'm saying people like 223 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: when you're gonna have babies, I'm like, wait, then you 224 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: just tell me to wait a couple of years, days ago, 225 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: you told me the way, and now all of a 226 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: sudden you're like So it's like, don't it doesn't matter 227 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: what other people think. You at the end of the day, 228 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: have to live with your life. You are. You have 229 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: to go to sleep at night and be okay with 230 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: the decisions that you made. And I remember also my 231 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: grandfather used to always tell me, like, you should go 232 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: to law school, you should be a doctor. And there 233 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: are people that are in careers that they got into 234 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: just because their family wanted them to. Now you have 235 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: a vot load of student loans and you're not happy, 236 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, like what do you do when 237 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: your family's pushing you and sometimes they won't support you 238 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: if you don't follow that career path. And I remember 239 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: just being very adamant and telling my grandfather I would 240 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: kind of just smile like okay, like that's I'm not 241 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: passionate about law. Yeah, I'm not passionate. Yes, I'm not 242 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: passionate about law or the medical field, though those are 243 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: amazing professions. And shoot, I wish I could be in 244 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: that meaning, but it's not something that I'm passionate about. 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 2: And so I feel like we really do at the 246 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: end of the day, like behoot ourselves adult thing is 247 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: already hard enough, right. 248 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: Why make it harder with being miserable doing things that 249 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: don't fulfill you? And it makes me think about, like, 250 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: as you were talking, like it makes me think about, 251 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: like how I know for myself that I chose my 252 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: career and it was something early on that I knew 253 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: that I wanted, and I knew that I knew what 254 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: path to take, right, like I knew all the steps 255 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: to take. And then I think about so many people 256 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: that I talked to, so many students that I engage 257 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: with who have no idea, right, and I think about 258 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: how fortunate I've been that I've had so many people 259 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: that have been supportive of what I chose to do. 260 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: And it just reminds me that you have people you 261 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: go after the people who are going to be supportive 262 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: of you. 263 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: Right. 264 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: So, if you know that there's something in your life 265 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: that you were passionate about and you want help with that, 266 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: you want support with that, you you connect with those 267 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: people who are really going to support what you're doing, 268 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: and recognize too that sometimes our family and friends have 269 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: the best of intentions for us. Yes, and so that 270 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: advice that they're tossing out, like girl, you should go 271 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: on to be a lawyer, Like that's what you're gonna become, 272 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: That's what's gonna make you money. Right, That's what's gonna 273 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: bring our family out of poverty. 274 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Right. 275 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: Those things they may be well intentioned, but if it's 276 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: not for you, you don't have to write your family off, 277 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: but seek out those people who will be supportive of 278 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: the career choice that you're trying to make, because those 279 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,479 Speaker 3: people will guide you, hopefully in the right direction exactly. 280 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: And you have to also be mindful of people that 281 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: are trying to project their old dreams and desires that 282 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: they never pursued onto you. 283 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: Right. 284 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: I have to be mindful of this when I do 285 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: start having kids, like not to project my dreams and 286 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: desires onto my children, right, because people have to just 287 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: find who they are and find what itgnits their fire 288 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: and go after that. And so it makes me think 289 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: about adulting in general. Don So I want us to 290 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: both share we can three of our like least favorite 291 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: adulting like aspects to adulting, just so we can kind 292 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: of see if we have similar. 293 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: H Okay, Okay, all right, so you toss out one. 294 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So I would say my least favorite thing about 295 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: adulting right now is probably ooh, this is okay, probably 296 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: grocery shopping. 297 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: I do it. 298 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: Grocery shopping takes a lot of time for me, Like 299 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: it's two hours to like go to both stores. I 300 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: always tore I would never go to two stores, but 301 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, you gotta do what you gotta do 302 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: because Costco just doesn't I can't buy everything in bulk, 303 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: so I gotta go to some of it. So I 304 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: would say grocery shopping, that's my first. 305 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: Okay, my first is related to grocery shopping. Cooking. People 306 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: who know me know that I don't really cook anymore. 307 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: Like at one point in life I was trying to 308 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: learn and could really do some good stuff in grad school, 309 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: like my friends knew my ribbans and rice was like 310 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: on point, like that was the thing, right, Okay. My 311 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: grandmother has given me tons of recipes like crawfish pasta, 312 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: shrimp a to fade, like all things, and I can 313 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: pull that out and like I can cook it if 314 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: I need to, but on my regular day. 315 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 2: To day I'm not. I'm just here for it. 316 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably what I'm not cooking. Yeah, my least papers. 317 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: The next one I would probably say, just like I mean, 318 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: I like to have control, like I'm very detail oriented. 319 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: I like to have control of my life for schedule, 320 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: but just having to just be so responsible, like I 321 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: gotta pay these bills, like I gotta get up and 322 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: go to work, I don't have anyone to wake me up. 323 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: Just having so much responsibility and being in charge of 324 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: everything so if everything, if shit hits the fan, is 325 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: my fault. I can't say, oh my mom and dad 326 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: they didn't wake me up, Like no, it's you. It's 327 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: on you. So I think just having so much responsibility 328 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: and the stakes being so high, that's another thing. Like 329 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: when you run into obstacles as an adult, you got 330 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: to figure that shit out and sometimes it's scary. 331 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: Right, And I think for me, like yes, that responsibility 332 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: piece is another thing, but the thing that ties into 333 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: that for me most mostly is like the paying bills, 334 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: like this work hard and my money has to go 335 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: to bills like no, yes, no, I just gonna go 336 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: have fun, and so that, yeah, that that probably is 337 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: one of my hardest things is being responsible. Yes, having 338 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: to make the quote unquote right choices. But and I 339 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: know we said three, but I would take us away 340 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 3: from that because that also ties into one of the 341 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: things that I love about being an adult, and that's freedom. 342 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: Oh yes, I can get. If I decide that I 343 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: want to sleep in, I can do that. Now, granted, 344 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: there will be consequences, so I can't say I'm going 345 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: to sleep until ten, knowing I was supposed to be 346 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: to work at nine exactly. But if I do that, 347 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: I have the freedom to do that. And so I 348 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: think that that's one of the good things about being 349 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: an adult. Like if I decide that I want to 350 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: get up on a Saturday morning and take a drive 351 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: along Highway One, that's like one of the most beautiful 352 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: drives you can ever take. If y'all are ever in California, 353 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 3: make sure you do that, Like it's gorgeous. If I 354 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: get up on a Saturday morning, I can decide to 355 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: do that. I don't have to ask anyone. I don't 356 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: have to get permission. It's my choice to make. 357 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: That's a good point. I grew up in a very 358 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: strict household, and so I used have to ask for 359 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: permission to do everything. And so I think freedom like seriously, 360 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: don't drink, don't drink your mom's juice, don't eat it 361 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: ass you know what I mean, like snack or whatever. 362 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: So I think having the freedom and independence. I agree 363 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: with you there, and I love to dive into some 364 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: I want to say strategies, like what can we do 365 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: when we are in that place where we're like, oh, 366 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm comparing myself to someone else because it happens. I 367 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: feel like I'm still guilty to this day, Like I 368 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: know that I shouldn't compare. I know that, and I 369 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: feel for the most part, I don't often, but sometimes 370 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: you fall into that, especially if you're in a low 371 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: point or you see something that just impacts you deeply 372 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: on social media usually right or in real life. Like, 373 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: I love to talk about some tactics that we can 374 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: all use to combat that. 375 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I think one of the first strategies that I 376 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: what's tap into is to look at where you are 377 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: currently in life, right, do an evaluation of what is 378 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: happening right in front of you in the moment. Are 379 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: there things that you want to do differently. Are there 380 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: things that you probably need to do differently, but are 381 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: there things that you're doing really well? Oftentimes we don't 382 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: take enough time to acknowledge the good things that we 383 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: are doing for ourselves. Right, So if we just take 384 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: a moment to take stock of what's really truly happening 385 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: in front of us, that could help us move into 386 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 3: a space of let me not compare myself to what's 387 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: happening for my friends or what's happening to everyone else 388 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: around me. I've got some dope stuff happening and being 389 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: able to really see that and acknowledge that. 390 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: That's an excellent point. And also I think we need 391 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: to realize that some of us have been through so 392 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: much in life, and we don't give ourselves enough credit 393 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: for being where we are based on what we where 394 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: we come from, what our family looks like, the obstacles 395 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: our family has faced, you know what I mean. So 396 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: I think just acknowledging where you are. It may not 397 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: be where you want to be, but you've gone through 398 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: so much hell to get to where you are today. 399 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: So just being a black person in this country, in 400 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: this moment, being alive, that in and of itself is 401 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: an amazing feat, right, yes, And so like you're saying, 402 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: just being able to fully acknowledge that and appreciate that 403 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: anything that you're doing, considering the historical trauma that as 404 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: a people we have been through, you're doing amazing. 405 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: That's right, all right? So I would say the next 406 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: step is to revisit your why and your master plan. 407 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: It's easy to look at someone else's path and envy 408 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: their lifestyle or the possessions they have, but sometimes we 409 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: have to ask ourselves, do I want what I want 410 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: because someone else has it and it looks good? Like 411 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: when I talked about earlier about seeing someone in Dubai, Yeah, 412 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: that's great and everything, but like I'm currently launching products, 413 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: and I have this blog, and I have the you know, 414 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: we're working on the podcast, and I have the job. 415 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: Like being in Dubai right now would not be good 416 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: for me because I have so much stuff going on here. 417 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: So do I want that just because I see someone 418 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: I was doing it? Or does it fit into my 419 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: why and my master plan? So really thinking about why 420 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: do you want what you want? Right right right? 421 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: And maybe Dubai is not where you need to be 422 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: because that's a door that should stay closed so that 423 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: you can be ready for the door that's going to 424 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: open to another trip later on in the year that 425 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: will take you to networking to propel you to your 426 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 3: next step. And so when you look at that door 427 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: that needs to be closed, or you're saying to yourself, 428 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: I have these things that I'm working on, and so 429 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: I can't do what my friends are doing, know that 430 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: just because that door is closing doesn't mean that there 431 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: aren't two or three other doors out there that are 432 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: waiting for you to get to that next step. 433 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Agreed. 434 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: And so our third tip for you is to motivate 435 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: yourself and create a game plan. What that really looks 436 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: like is again having that conversation with yourself, checking out 437 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: our website to look at our goal mapping workbook, and 438 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 3: devising that master plan for your life and setting up 439 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: those smart goals that we mentioned, and really figuring out 440 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: what steps you want to take and how you can 441 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 3: realistically get there, and find those things to motivate you 442 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: to make to accomplish those things, whether that's having an 443 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: accountability partner or having a vision board or motivational quote, 444 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: whatever it is that's going to get you energized. 445 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: Do it and then we have don't despise the days 446 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: of small beginnings. As we all know, every journey begins 447 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: with a single step, just one literally, just take that 448 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: first step, and that first step can lead to endless possibilities. 449 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: And when you think about it, when we compare our 450 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: life to other people's lives, it's like us comparing are 451 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: day one to someone else's day one hundred, Right, we 452 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: don't know what they had to do the ninety nine 453 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: other days to get to where they are, and it's 454 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: really not fair to yourself. It's literally like asking yourself 455 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: this question, right, would you want to go from first 456 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: grade to twelfth grade? Probably not, because you're going to 457 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: need all of the lessons in second, third, fourth, fifth, 458 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: and so on and so forth that will allow you 459 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: to show up fully and to be prepared and to 460 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: have what you need to succeed in twelfth grade or 461 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: in that level. So it's like every step of our 462 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: journey is needed to get us to our final destination, 463 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: so to speak, and where we want to end up. 464 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: And so comparing our journey to someone else's is just 465 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: it's not fair to ourselves, and it's just it's gonna 466 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: leave you pissed off. You know what I mean every 467 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: single time. 468 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: Right, And it's creating. It's going to create that negative energy. 469 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: And when you're in a negative space, it prevents you 470 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: from doing what we would listen as Our last and 471 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: final tip is to celebrate those around you who are 472 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: doing well. So when you're in a space of feeling 473 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: good and you can celebrate those around you and feel 474 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: good for others and make others feel good, all of 475 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: that energy just keeps manifesting itself. And as that energy 476 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: is manifesting itself, you will find that you will become 477 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: more motivated. You will put yourself or in spaces that 478 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: allow you to reach the goals that you have set 479 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: out for yourself. So just creating that positivity. 480 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 2: Amen to that. And I will say whenever I feel 481 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: that little like hint of like jealousy or envy or 482 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: hate or something like that, and I have to check 483 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: myself because I'm a human being, Like I have to 484 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: check myself or it's like pause, what's going on with 485 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: you while you acting? All stinks? 486 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: Right? 487 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 2: And I when I feel those moments come along, I 488 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: do my best to move past it by showing love. 489 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: So sometimes I may and may not be my first 490 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: or like you know, my initial reaction, but it's like, 491 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: uh uh, I'm gonna show some love there because something's 492 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: going on inside me that I need to address. 493 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: Right. 494 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: But I'm excited for you because that's good for you. Right, 495 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: even though it may not be happening for me, it's 496 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: exciting that someone else is doing something amazing, you know what. 497 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 3: I mean, doing something that fulfills them. 498 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: That's right. 499 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: So right now, we just want to thank you so 500 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 2: much for tuning in. It's been about five episodes for us. 501 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: You're tuned into the Herspace podcast, and so at this 502 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: time we just want to ask you that if you 503 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: are finding any value from any of our episodes, whether 504 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: it's your first episode or you've tuned into all the 505 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: episodes with us, please be sure to head over to 506 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: iTunes and leave us a review only if you found value. Right, So, 507 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: if you found that you you resonated with something that 508 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: we shared, you laughed at one of our corny jokes, 509 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: or you know we do, I don't even care. So 510 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: if you found anything valuable from the podcast, please leave feedback. 511 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: We want to know how you feel. We also want 512 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: other folks to be able to find the podcast here, 513 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: and Dom's going to close us out with a wonderful 514 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: proverb that ties everything together. 515 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you Tea. So our closing proverbs is where 516 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: you will sit when you are old shows where you 517 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: you stood in your youth. Again, where you will sit 518 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: when you are old shows where you stood in your youth. 519 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us today in her Space. Please note 520 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice, 521 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: self empowerment, and mental health, but it is by no 522 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: means meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal 523 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: relationship with a trained mental health provider. If you are 524 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: someone you know is in need of mental health care, 525 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 3: please visit the Therapy for Black Girls directory Psychology today 526 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: or contact your insurance provider. 527 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: If you liked what you heard and want to keep 528 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 2: the conversation going, connect with us on Facebook, Instagram, and 529 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: Twitter at her Space podcast, or check out our website 530 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: at herspacepodcast dot com. And before we meet again, repeat 531 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: after me, I am not defined by where I come 532 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: from or what happened to me. I get to create 533 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: my own destiny. 534 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week, Lady