1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Bucky with you. Buck? What's going on? Man? 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: No, not too much. DJ really excited about this Super Bowl. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: And I know on the outside there are a lot 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: of people that are saying it's gonna be a sleepy 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl, not a lot of buzz around it. But 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: to me, these are very compelling matchups just because of 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: the way the teams are being constructed. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an interesting look at how these teams 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: have been built. And I've gave Gavin a little homework 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: which he executed for us, because I wanted to look at, 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, if we combine these two teams, and then 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: we'll get to the game itself, but if we combine 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: the two rosters and kind of how they were built, 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: what can we learn? And so I wanted to combine 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: them and then say, okay, where did these offensive linemen 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: get picked amongst this amongst the draft in terms of 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: the rounds that they were in. Let's look at the 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Now, it is a little interesting because this 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: is based off the starters from the championship game. So 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: one of these teams had had six offensive linemens, so 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: we've got eleven starters. But I wanted to show you 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: where these guys were picked. So of the eleven guys 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: starting along the offensive line, four were first rounders. There 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: were no second rounders. Interesting, three third rounders, one fourth rounder, 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: one six, one seven, one undrafted. But the I would 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: bet you that when you're looking at tackles, you're trying 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: to find those guys in round one, and then you 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: talk about round three has always been kind of a 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: sweet spot for your interior offensive lineup. But interesting that 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: there's no middle class there the second round, that middle 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: class of player. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Nope, Yeah, I mean, look, I find it fascinating you 35 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: talk about both of these teams. Ellie Wolf and John 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Snyder were reared the same way. Ellie Wolf's the son 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: of Ron Wolf. John Snyder served the NIA Ronwolf for 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: a while. I told you he was a guy that 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: was the airport runner when I was picked up by 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, And so they learned the same way. 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: When it comes to team building, when you talk about 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: the pedigree and how these things are put together, some 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: of these are old school philosophies that they've always adhere to. 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: Both teams are traits teams. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: When you look at them, they're bigger teams, bigger, faster, 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: stronger teams because they believe in the heavyweight model. 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: This offensive line. 48 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Both offensive lines have been put together where I would 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: say maybe the way they play is the collective is 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: greater than some of their individual parts. Just the way 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: they put it together, scheme, coaching, those things. I just 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: think they have the combination that you need when it 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: comes to personnel providing the talent and the talent being 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: coached up by really good coaches. 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: It's really interesting when you look at that. The undrafted player, 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: by the way, with Sundell the starting center for Seattle, 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: Theayir Munford was the sixth offensive linemanes. That's where you 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: get the extra number running backs. Interesting. One was a 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: second rounder, one was a fourth rounder, so no first 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: round picks there, but still top four round picks. The receivers, 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: we have one first rounder and we think we know 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: who that is, just one third rounder, one fourth rounder, 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: one fifth rounder, one sixth rounder, and one undrafted player. 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: So receivers, when we use the phrase you can find 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: them anywhere, you literally can find them anywhere. They're all 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: throughout the entire draft. 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are throughout in look is such a deep position. 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about it for years about the impact of 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: seven on seven, the impact of the spread offense on 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: wide receivers at the high school and collegiate levels. All 71 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: that is produced has led to a better product entering 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: the league, and then systems, quarterback systems, the way we're 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: asking them to run routes, the way people are setting 74 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: up the receivers for success with solid quarterback play, like 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: all of those things are factoring in and what we 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: are seeing DJ These teams don't veer too much from 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: the traditional model of where the premium positions are and 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: where they commit their draft capital too, because when you 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: talk about the first rounders tackles in those things in offense, 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: you talk about the premier positions, Like quarterback was one 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: they drafted early. They put a bunch of money in 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold at wide receiver. They've always felt like they 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: could find him because there are so many debts you 84 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: can find. And if we dug deeper, I bet you'll 85 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: see a bunch of punt return experiencing their background, because 86 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: that also is something that was a tried and true 87 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: thing did they believe in? 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: To me, they're very similarly constructed. 89 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Very interesting. So the tight ends one second rounder, one 90 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: fourth rounder, and the quarterbacks you just hit on that, 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: they're both the high first round picks. So that's the offense. 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: As we flip over to the defense, buck the edge rushers, 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: there's three here based off of how they aligned. He 94 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: had one first rounder, one second rounder, one third rounder, 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: and the rest of the d line you had two 96 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: first rounders, two second rounders, and one third rounder. So 97 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: these starters on defense along the defensive front, none of 98 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: them outside of the top three rounds. They spent premium 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: picks building their front. 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: And then it shows up when you watched them play. 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: It shows up how they get after it when you're 102 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: able to control it. We always talk about being a 103 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage team, and people talk about that, but 104 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: it's lip service. They don't commit to it the way 105 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: they expended their draft capital. They committed to Hey, we 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: want to be trench warriors. We're going to make sure 107 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: we can dominate any trenches. 108 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, drafting bigs linebackers, how about this four linebackers. One 109 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: was drafted in round three and then three undrafted players 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: and Splaine, Christian Ellis, and Drake Thomas. So of the 111 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: four linebackers starting in this Super Bowl that started in 112 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: the championship game, you have one third round pick and 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: three undrafted free agents. 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that tells you where we are right when we 115 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: talk about like these try and true things in terms 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: of what positions are marquee positions and what or not, 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: people have talked about linebackers being viewed in the same 118 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: way running backs have been viewed, just on the defense 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I mean they're telling us everything 120 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: a third round in three undrafted to tell me like, yeah, 121 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: we can we can find a way to get someone 122 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: that can be a sea ball get ball linebacker. But 123 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: what we can't find in those later rounds we can't 124 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: find bigs. So this makes sure we get all of 125 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: the bigs and we'll figure out what to put around. 126 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: There's only so many people walking around earth that are that, 127 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: you know, that size and that coordinating athletics. So that's interesting. 128 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: Their corners, five corners were on the starting line there. 129 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: You had two first rounders, one second rounder, one third, 130 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: one fifth, one undrafted, So it is still you get 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: two guys in the first round, which are two of 132 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: the best players you know for their respective teams, and 133 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: Gonzales and Witherspoon, but the rest kind of littered throughout. 134 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: So one alpha that kind of goes to our building 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: a championship foundation. Like you look at that number of playmakers. Okay, 136 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: we get one dog, like one big time corner, we're 137 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: in business. 138 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we could work around so many of so 139 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: much of the other stuff, and at one big time 140 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: corner allows you, particularly if you're staying true to why 141 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: you're taking someone high man, I want to be able 142 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: to blanket deaths out of the field and then be 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: able to help the other side. And whether dead is hey, 144 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my number one corner on the number 145 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: two where I received with the opponent and double team 146 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: to number one. We are going to dictate the terms 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: because we have at least one CB one desk of 148 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: the pedigree to be able to do those things. 149 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: Of the safeties, five safeties, one second rounder Emon Warrior, 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: who's awesome, and then four fourth rounders. So when I'm 151 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: kind of looking at sweet spots in this, you know, 152 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: in the draft process, that kind of helps you. First 153 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: of all, linebackers amounts to just wait forever. Uh, safeties, 154 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: the fourth round is a great spot to try and find, 155 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, the safeties that can be a part of 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: a championship roster. And then the interior. You know, finding 157 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: offensive lineman in that third round is a pretty good 158 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's a pretty good idea to do it 159 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: at that point in time. And then uh, you know 160 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: tight ends, you know, rounds two through four, Like there's 161 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: little little nuggets you can kind of take away of 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: when to try and attack those positions in the draft. 163 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: So, yeah, there are some things to take away. 164 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: But let me go back, and I think is important 165 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: because there's been a lot of conversation on Sam Donald 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about this because this is 167 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: something that ron Wolf had told me directly, and I 168 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: think him is it may speak to why John Snyder 169 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: felt so compelled to go after Sam Donald. Ron Wolf 170 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: used to talk about what he learned from Al Davis, 171 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: and Al Davis, longtime owner and general partner of the Raiders, 172 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: used to always say, if a guy was taken in 173 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: the first round, it's our duty to kick the tires 174 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: on him because a new environment, a new voice, a 175 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: new scheme could unlock what everyone saw to make him 176 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: worthy of a first round pick in Sam Donald when 177 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: Sam Donald was drafted number three overall, there is enough 178 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: talent to be able to say, hey man, there was 179 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: a reason why this guy was drafted there. It may 180 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: not have worked out in previous spots, but if we 181 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: have the right voice to write environment, to write. 182 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: Coach, he will play to that talent. 183 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: And even though he showed that in Minnesota, the reason 184 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: why Seattle was so confident was in that is because 185 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: of the pedigree what he had. 186 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: And when we talk. 187 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: About traits teams, one of the things that you have 188 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: when you invest in traits, these are the things that 189 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: traditionally played. 190 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: For a long time in the league. 191 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: And when you look at Sam Darnold's traits, those things 192 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: played for a long time in the league. The Seattle 193 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks and John Snyder were confident that they for somebody's 194 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: trash is a first round pick could be their treasure 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: if they surrounded him with the right stuff. 196 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: And it's turned out to. 197 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: Be true, absolutely one hundred percent right move there. Uh 198 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: never never quit on tent, and they found some talent 199 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: that's paid them back in a big, big way. I'll 200 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 2: take a quick break and we'll come back with our 201 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: previews and picks for the game. Here right, Buck. I 202 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: was on a Seattle station the other day and they 203 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: were saying, you know, if there's a way or what 204 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: are the keys to the game. I think it was 205 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: the exact question. I was like, all right, I went 206 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: back to my old school, like high school basketball coach. 207 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: We used to have the whiteboard, Buck, and he would 208 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: write the three keys to victory on the whiteboard before 209 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: the game. For some reason, box Out was always on there, 210 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: like we got it. Okay, we got box Out. I 211 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: get that. But so I and they a lot of 212 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: times using a literation. So I wrote down for these 213 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: three keys for the Seahawks, like what do they need 214 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: to do to win this game? And I said, they're 215 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: all the three l's. You got limit May's legs, so 216 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: don't let his legs beat you. You got to locate Milton. 217 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: So Milton Williams I think can be a game wrecker inside. 218 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: So knowing where he is and not getting Bradford, their 219 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: guard isolated with with a three way go like don't 220 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: let him fan him out, leave him on an island. 221 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: You don't want that. So it was limit May's legs, 222 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: locate Milton and then Longfield like Hey likes don't I 223 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: think if they protect the football, I don't see how 224 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: they lose this game. You just you can't. You can't 225 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: give them things. So that's you know, Sam, Hey throwing 226 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: the ball away, take a sack, cover up, but just 227 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: make them against your defense. Who is you know, playing 228 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: lights out as long as Matthew Stafford's and not on 229 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: the other side, if they have to travel the distance 230 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: against your defense, I think in a really, really good spot. 231 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they will be in a good spot because the 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Patriots are adopting the blueprint that has worked successfully for 233 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: them for twenty years back during the Bill Belichick era, 234 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: where they just waited for other teams to implode. If 235 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: you watch their games, they don't beat themselves and they 236 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: wait for you to give them easy opportunities. Going back 237 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: to the first game you saw with the Chargers charges, 238 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: give to them opportunities, they cash it in. 239 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: You then go next week they do the same thing. 240 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: If you look at their run, they've feasted and capitalized 241 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: off of the mistakes of others. 242 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: So you're right about every drivet shit in and the kick. 243 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Make them drive the distance, don't unnecessarily gamble where you 244 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: can give them an easy scoring opportunity, make them earn 245 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: everything by facing our defense going the long way. The 246 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: Patriots will try to play a conservative approach early, but 247 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: they're going to have to do something to steal a possession, 248 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: to steal some other things. Like to me, this is 249 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: a not an ony side kick game, but this is 250 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: a fake punt game. 251 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: Is a trick play game. 252 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: This is what they did versus the Broncos, Like there's 253 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: a recipe DJ. 254 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: When I'm looking at the Patriots, I'm like, I've seen 255 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: this movie before. 256 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: They're running the same trick players, doing the same things 257 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: that they did in the early two thousands to win. 258 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: I think it's very much like that. 259 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: So I would say it's more how Seattle plays and 260 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: less about the Patriots. 261 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: I think the Patriots have to press the issue. 262 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: If the game is under the Seattle Seahawks control early, 263 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: they're going to have to get out of character. And 264 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to play outside of the 265 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: way that they're playing their possession team. 266 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,239 Speaker 3: They're not a team that wants to push the buttons. 267 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: And go for Yeah. I mean, he throws a beautiful 268 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: the ball. I just don't know if they're going to 269 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: be able to protect him long enough to get the 270 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: ball deep down the field against Seattle, and I don't 271 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: think like to me, a big mistake for Seattle would 272 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: be if they decide they want to send extra rushers. 273 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: They don't need to. There's a lot of matchups that 274 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: are favorable for them. And you look at Will Campbell, 275 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: who's susceptible to some power because of his lack of length, 276 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: and guys have been able to get to him and 277 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: get through him. Morgan Moses is a solid veteran, but 278 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: he's not the quickest a foot. You can throw a 279 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: fast ball on the other side on him, like they 280 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: got Man. Then Leonard is a is a handful inside. 281 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: So they've got They've got a lot of ways they 282 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: can They can find matchups that are in their favor 283 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: with four guys, which also frees up your second level 284 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: to monitor May and what he could do as a runner. Yeah. 285 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, because I would say, if 286 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: we're looking at how to defend the Patriots, got to 287 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: stop made and you talk about the improvisational plays, you 288 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: need to stop the running game, because if they're able 289 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: to run the ball, they control the game. And they 290 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna bring you into the fourth quarter, which is what 291 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: they're playing for. They're playing the game to get it 292 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter within a score so they can 293 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: win it late. 294 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: So you got to stop the run. 295 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: And in the passing game, I mean, you've got to 296 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: have all eyes on Stefan Dicks. Make somebody else get busy, 297 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: but don't let him get loose. 298 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: If Matt Collins Beach, if Bout beat you like, you 299 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: can live with it. 300 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: You cannot allow Diggs to be a major factor in 301 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: this game. 302 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think Hunter Henry could. To me, he 303 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: makes sense in this matchup just because you just you're 304 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: trying to get the ball out, like get the ball him. 305 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: I think getting Henderson the ball, you know, the back 306 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: of the ball quickly, I think kind of work in 307 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: that area too. And if you can find Ernest Jones 308 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: and try and highlight Ernest Jones and coverage, that's your matchup. 309 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: It's not going to be Eman Warrior down there. You're 310 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: gonna try and find wherever Ernest Jones is at and 311 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: then you can see I bet you see it. You'll 312 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: see angle routes, pivot right, you can see all that 313 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: little stuff trying to pick on him. 314 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: DJ when you're saying this, right, I have visions of 315 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Falk and Shane Veren and like Danny would hit 316 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: like I just have all of these old Patriots memories 317 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: of how they've won these games with a lesser talented team. 318 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: And if you're the Seahawks, I think the one thing 319 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: that you're Mike McDonald, you have to impress upon your guys. 320 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Hey man, we don't have to do too much. If 321 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: we do you too much, we're gonna mess it up. 322 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: So let's play our game. Let's not try to be heroes. 323 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Let's just take care of business because the pager's gonna 324 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: land the cut. They won a lot of games like 325 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: this for years, where teams over extend themselves and they're 326 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: able to be the ultimate counterpuncher. They take advantage of 327 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: when you leave yourself exposed, they pop you and they 328 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: knock you out. 329 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: All right, it's it's time to make our picks. 330 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: Here. 331 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure I get the right score 332 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: because I know we both had to send these into shopping. 333 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: While I'm looking mine up, do you remember what your 334 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: score prediction was? 335 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: Buck? I did see, and here's here's what it is. 336 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not on with rich in them, but I 337 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: feel like I might be lone wolfing dj I. Early 338 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: in the week I picked the Seahawks. But the more 339 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: I look at this, I just see this game. I 340 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: told you the same, Veren. You can't falk man. 341 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: I just think somehow the Patriots find a way to 342 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: get this done. And I don't. I don't have I 343 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: don't have. 344 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: A reasonable explanation to tell you, but the way they played, 345 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: I think people have undervalued how they've won. And I 346 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: know maybe it's hard to win fourteen games, and I 347 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: know people that talk about the schedule, but look, man, 348 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: they went against three top five defenses. I mean, they've 349 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: gone through a gauntlet like in the playoffs, and it 350 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: hasn't been pretty. 351 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: I just feel like Drake is due for a game 352 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: at some point. He's due for one. 353 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: He can't go through the entire playoffs after playing at 354 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: an MVP level and never flashed at I think maybe 355 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: this is the time. 356 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: And let's be real. They gave up points to the 357 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: Rams last week. They gave up some points. 358 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: That's the only team though, Bus the only team the 359 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: last sell it. 360 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: I got to make myself feel good if I'm an 361 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: pick him. I gotta sell it. I gotta pull the nugget. 362 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: I went the other way. I want Seattle twenty seven 363 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: or fourteen is a blowout. I think that that's thirteen points. 364 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: I mean they've been set. Drake May has been sacked 365 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: like fifteen times in the playoffs. I mean I was 366 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: in the building against the Chargers. They didn't score a 367 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: touchdown until what the fourth quarter, and that offense. I 368 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: just don't think that they're going to be able to 369 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: survive without being a little bit more aggressive. And I 370 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: think if they have to be aggressive, I just I 371 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: go back to the Super Bowls that we've seen like 372 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: a lot of vivid memories of like people previewing games. 373 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: I remember looking at the Kansas City Tampa game and 374 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: going like, we can complicate this thing all we want, 375 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: but like those two tackles for Kansas City can't block 376 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: Jpp and Barrett and those guys like they can't block them. 377 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: And then I remember, you know, the Giants upsetting the 378 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: Patriots and the Patriots undefeated season and what happened They 379 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: couldn't block them, and you know, we can go on 380 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: on the Broncos. When the Seahawks hammered the Broncos. They 381 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: couldn't block them like I just can't. I can see 382 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: a way where you know, Barbore is a good player 383 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: inside as well, and I could see Milt Williams and 384 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: they can they can cause some havoc inside. But I 385 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: just think there's a lot more matchups on the other 386 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: side where Seattle, Like when they put their hand in 387 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: the ground, Buck, there's like a little saliva starting to 388 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 2: ripped down a little bit. No one matchup that they want. 389 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: Well, here's my X factor in terms of why they 390 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: can win Super Bowl experience and the Super Bowl experience 391 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: not only Mike Rabel as a player, but Josh McDaniels 392 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: as a play called who has been in this game 393 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: a ton. And I think that viral clip where he's 394 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: kind of talking to Drake like, yeah, bro, it's hard. 395 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: These are hard games. These are things when I look 396 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: at just having been in that and having managed the 397 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: emotions of having to coach in that game and being 398 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: able to impress upon the players what the game is like, 399 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: I think that's an underrated advantage that the Patriots may have. 400 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: Uh and maybe it's a difference. 401 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you also have this thing right here that this 402 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: is a cell phone and this is where kubiak can go. 403 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: You go, let's say the favorites, Dad, you want a 404 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: couple of these things? 405 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: Tell I mean literally, he's got to. 406 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: Be in his favorite I think all right, Well that's uh, 407 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: that's the for us. It should be a fun super Bowl. 408 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Where you going to be for Super Bowl? 409 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: Buck, I am in studio, I'm. 410 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: We're watching the game together. 411 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: Then yeah, yeah, yeah, right there, Yeah, the same. 412 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: Thing you doing. Are you on this thing? Are you 413 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: doing this thing with me and Reddy? You got something 414 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: else doing? What are you doing? 415 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I'm doing the team with you. That's 416 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: where we're doing. 417 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're doing it. We just do post right, 418 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: we have to do anything before I don't know. Oh 419 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: no sorry, halftime, halftime, halftime and then. 420 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Post Oh we definitely won't be seen between Bad Bunny 421 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: Kid rocking us. 422 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: We're down on the list. 423 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: All these all this media tour. But I've been selling people, Hey, 424 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: you want to see a halftime show with no highlights? 425 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Come see we talk about it twoteen minutes of talk. 426 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you're there. I forgot it. 427 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because last year is when dark came into the 428 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: studio and hung out, and there we had a chance 429 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: to meet him. Yeah yeah, good stuff. All right, we 430 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: will see you next time right here on with the sticks. 431 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: Want to befo