1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in everybody to the Clay 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are talking a lot 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: about the future of the GOP here. We just had 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: an election, some good, some bad, win, some losses. Certainly 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: not as many wins as we wanted. But we've got 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: to make sense of it all and do our best 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: to have a strategy going forward for the country to 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: have as much prosperity and freedom and yes, security as 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: we can for as long as we can. It's like 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: whenever I do a live speech, there's always somebody somewhere 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: who asks me how do we get our country back? 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: And I always have to tell them that the question 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: needs to be for how long? You know, because it's 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: always going to be temporal. The fight's going to continue. 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: It's not like there's one day we win and everything 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: is going to work and everything is going to make 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: sense thereafter. Obviously, one area where I think there's going 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: to be there should be a robust conversation going forward 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: is on foreign policy. You know. For example, right now 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: we have some sense of what Donald Trump's foreign policy is, 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: and as he said last night in his speech he 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: was the first president, certainly in my adult No, the 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: first president in my lifetime to not get involved in 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: a major military conflict of some kind abroad. I mean, 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I guess you could say no Clinton sorry, air campaign 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: in Bosnia. So no, I think he's the first one 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: to not engage in major military new major military action 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: abroad in my lifetime and even in Clay's lifetime. I mean, 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: which is saying a lot. So here we are looking 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: at the de Santists possibility. In the Primarian people are 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: asking a question, totally fair one, what is the Rhonda 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Santists foreign policy if he does get into this nomination contest? 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: What about Glen Yonkin? What about GOP? More generally? And 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm just bringing this up. This is more. This isn't 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: about the primary. This is more about what should our 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: foreign policy be going forward? Because we're starting to see, folks, 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: we may not care about it as much, and it 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: is often the realm of you know, latte drinking worthless 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: master's degree in security studies, folks about how, oh, if 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: only we had gotten this multilateral treaty done? Sure, whatever, 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: but which I saw yesterday in Europe in the European 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: theater of the Ukraine Russia Conflict's a bit of a 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: wake up call in that we talked about the breaking 45 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: news on the air. I will say, Clay, we were 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: right in assuming right away that it was not a 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Russian attack. I said, if anything, this is just collateral damage. 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Missiles can go hit the wrong place, hit the wrong thing, 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: can malfunction, and it wasn't even that. Here we have 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: the NATO chief Yen's Stole Stoltenberg saying that the missile 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: strike in Poland was actually probably caused by Ukrainian air 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: defense missile that landed in Poland by accident play twenty. 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Our preliminary analysis suggests that the incident was likely caused 54 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: by a Ukrainian air defense missile fired to defend Ukrainian 55 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: territory against Russian cruise missile attacks. But let me be clear, 56 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: this is not Ukraine's fault. Russia bears ultimate responsibility as 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: it continues its illegal war against Ukraine. Okay, Clay. So 58 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: this is interesting for a number of reasons. For one thing, automatically, 59 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: everyone goes, wait a second, if Russia fired a missile 60 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: into Poland, which this never would have made sense, because 61 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: if Russia is going to fire stuff at Poland. It's 62 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: going to be a lot more than a missile, right 63 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: if they're going to if they're going to try to 64 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: expand the conflict. But that's a terrifying thought too. I 65 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: think everybody, because of Article five of the NATO Treaty 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: that would say that an attack on one is an 67 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: attack on all, effectively, all of a sudden ever realizes 68 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: if things go wrong in this war in Ukraine, we 69 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: could see a NATO which means America plus European allies 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: versus Russian military conflict, which is a terrifying prospect and 71 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: which Zolinski actually called for buck He almost immediately Zelenski said, hey, 72 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: this is an act of aggression on behalf of Russia 73 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: against Poland. Zelensky from the get go, while we totally 74 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: understand the desire to defend his territory, has sought for 75 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: this to be a larger battle where he's going to 76 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: have more allies than just Ukraine. Obviously, I'm sure everyone 77 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: out there has seen if you have not, the Biden 78 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: administration waits till after the midterms to request another thirty 79 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: seven billion dollars in aid for Ukraine, which I believe 80 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: buck means that we're now over The number that I 81 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: saw was ninety billion dollars in either requested aid or 82 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: sent aid to Ukraine. Now we'll see what Congress ends 83 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: up doing with this newest request for thirty seven billion dollars. 84 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: But to put that into perspective, according to the data, 85 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: that's more than Russia spends every year on its military, 86 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of wild to think about. I mean, 87 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: one hundred billion dollars as we're approaching one hundred billion 88 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: dollars for Ukraine to defend itself, is not. I mean, 89 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: this is big dollars that we're now committed. And you know, 90 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you sometimes have to contextualize it because unfortunately, in this 91 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Biden era, where they just spend money like drunken sailors, 92 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: what's the old line, A billion dollars here, a billion 93 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: dollars there, and it adds up eventually. I mean, we're 94 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: approaching if they got this full a lotmout of dollars, 95 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: one hundred billion dollars in requested for for Ukraine. That's 96 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: a monster amount of money. Yes, that's just even for US, 97 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: even for America, one hundred billion dollars. You know that 98 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: you pay attention to one hundred billion dollars of spending. 99 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: I saw Glenn Greenwald pulled this those numbers together and 100 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: included that the almost it's ninety one point three billion 101 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: dollars that has either been spent or requested of US 102 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: aid in Ukraine, which is double the average annual US 103 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: expenditure for our war in Afghanistan. I mean he had 104 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: a perspective, right yeah, where we had US troops in 105 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: a large country engaged in combat operations, but modern warfare. 106 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean the people that have come. We had Nolan 107 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Peterson on earlier in the week and he was talking 108 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: about what he's seen over there. It's a war. It's 109 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: it's a more conventional war than we've seen in Irock 110 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: or Afghanistan, which became largely counterinsurgency and stability operations. You 111 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: have affront, I mean, you actually have lines of demarcation 112 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: between Russian and Ukrainian militaries. Obviously there are shifts depending 113 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: on advances and and you know who's taking losses where, 114 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: but material you know, this goes back to I thought 115 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: that movie All Quiet on the Western Front on Netflix 116 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: was very very well done. A little light on character development, 117 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: but the overall themes and the way it depicts the 118 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: First World War, I thought was was phenomenal and obviously 119 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: heartbreaking too when you realize what actually went on there. 120 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: It turns into a contest of logistics, getting that the 121 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: two most difficult things to move and to have in 122 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: abundance to continue or have in sufficient numbers to continue 123 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: the fight other than personnel human beings are oil, gasoline 124 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: and ammunition. And AMMO is what the US has been 125 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: giving the Ukrainians in ample supply to the tune of 126 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars. And by amo I mean munitions, right, artillery, rounds, bombs, 127 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: you name it. And so we've effectively been able to 128 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: prop up the Ukrainian war effort. You know, this is 129 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: like this is almost like a lens lease or something. 130 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: We're giving them the tools to let them finish the job, 131 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: but it's costing one hundred billion dollars And what is 132 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: the end of the job and how far do we 133 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: take this and what happens if Russia dramatically escalates? What 134 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: do you really think Joe Biden's going to scare putin? 135 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: There's no conversations now about this other than shut up, 136 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: where's your five Ukraine flags. I don't think the Russians 137 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: are just gonna leave Ukraine in disgrace without escalation. If 138 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian advance continues, well just think about what we 139 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: would think. Russia is sitting around and they're saying, we've 140 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: lost one hundred thousand people to casualties. I think that's 141 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the soldier number that is sort of agreed to right now, 142 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken most recently, and if you were 143 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Russian and you were looking around. We've talked about this before, 144 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: but at what point does American expenditure spiral into Hey, 145 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: America is actually fighting us? Because if we're spending more 146 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: for Ukraine, then Russia typically spends in a year on 147 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: its military, which is one of the data points that 148 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: I've seen out there. I'm sorry, I would consider that 149 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: to be an attack against Russia if I were Russian 150 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: right now, in Americans are spending one hundred billion dollars 151 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: from my adversaries. One of the best moments in Trump 152 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: foreign policy, and this was, you know, the real real 153 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: presidential decider stuff, was when he turned Solimani into particulate matter. 154 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: And Kasam Solimani had been had been involved in well, 155 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: we could do a whole show on all this stuff 156 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: that he'd been doing in the Middle East and all 157 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: the terrors support and everything he'd done that was bad. 158 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: But specifically, I mean the reason I think that the 159 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: US and Trump himself and he remember he did that. 160 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: There are so many things that Trump did on the 161 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: foreign policy side where people said, oh, my gosh, this 162 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: is you know, good, The media would completely flip out, 163 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: and then we'd find out, Oh, no, that actually wasn't 164 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: a huge problem and probably was a smart Oh it 165 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: was the smart thing to do, whether it was trade 166 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: with China, the Kastam Solimani and any number of things. 167 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: But we blew up Kastam Solimani, the Iranian leader of 168 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: the Iranian Revolutionary Guards could force their external operations arm. 169 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: We took him out because he had his guys. Now, 170 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things he was doing, and I 171 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: know we have a lot of veterans of a rock 172 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: listen to this. But the main thing was he was 173 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: giving explosively foreign penetrators e fps that were being built 174 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: largely on Iranian soil too. Shia Militia's Iraqi, but Sheia 175 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Militia's in Iraq, and they were using them against coalition troops, 176 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: giving them specifically designed weapons to maim and kill our soldiers. 177 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: And you know what we decided, I did. We're going 178 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: to get payback on costum for that. So to your point, Clay, 179 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: you don't always have to be an active combatant for 180 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: somebody to decide you're part of the problem and part 181 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: of the opposition in a war. And so while I 182 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: understand that we're seeing these games by Ukraine right now, 183 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: what really is are we to believe that this ends 184 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: when every Russian soldier has lost, has left Ukrainian soil, 185 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: including the entirety of the Dunbass region, Because I don't 186 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: think Putin's going to go for that, and I think 187 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: we all know what that means. And I still have 188 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: not heard any way that this ends. And that's where 189 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: I think if we were actually focused on diplomacy. Ukraine 190 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: has been adamant that they will not negotiate until basically 191 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: Russia gives up all the land. That could take years. 192 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: So how committed and for how long is the United 193 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: States to this aspect of foreign policy, particularly when it's 194 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: costing thirty seven billion dollars and we're now over ninety 195 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: billion dollars in requested aid. And again I don't think 196 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: this is a surprise. Just think about all the things 197 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: that have happened. Maybe we can talk about this when 198 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: come back. I mean, the student loan initiative gets struck 199 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: down as unconstitutional, which we told you that it was. 200 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: You've got this. This SPF guy in the crypto funds 201 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: gives forty million dollars to Democrats a couple of days 202 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: after the midterms. That all blows up, and now we 203 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: got thirty seven billion dollars more requested for Ukraine after 204 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: we had a scare about potentially NATO getting involved over 205 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: missile's landing in Poland and killing people. This is this 206 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: is nerve wracking, and there's a lot of bad news 207 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: that go figure suddenly comes out for the Democrats within 208 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: a couple of days of the mid terms officially being over. 209 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: That's intentional. They definitely did not want it known that 210 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: they wanted thirty seven more billion dollars for Ukraine headed 211 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: into the midterms talking about that and more. But in 212 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: the meantime, it's hard to get kids to read. I've 213 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: got three boys, two of them, at least one of 214 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: them real challenge to get to read. 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Make sure you don't 242 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: miss a moment, especially as we're sitting here eight days 243 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: from Thanksgiving. I bet a lot of you listening out 244 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: there to us right now will be on the road 245 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: going somewhere friends and family for Thanksgiving and then Christmas 246 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: and New Year's not far after. Make sure that you 247 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: can hear the show anywhere you can find my same 248 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, you can find Buck Sexton Boom. You will 249 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: be well on your way to being able to hear 250 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: the show, no matter where you may be in the 251 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: country or around the world. News Mitch McConnell has been 252 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: reelected Senate Majority Leader by a vote of thirty seven 253 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: to ten with one abstention Buck. That is not a 254 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: particularly tight race there. Mitch McConnell Senate Majority Leader again. 255 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: Thirty seven Republican voter, A Republican senators voted for him, 256 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: ten voted against, and one abstained. He was right when 257 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: he said, I've got the votes, and it doesn't matter 258 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: when the election is going to be, because that ain't close. 259 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: If you come for the Mitch, you best not miss. 260 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't forget. And it's a shame that we can't 261 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: get a change in leadership here for the Senate. But 262 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: he's got a huge pack. He's got a ton of money. 263 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Money talks unfortunately in politics and the whole range of things. 264 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: And so this is this is where we are. Look. 265 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking for a silver lining, he's 266 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: good on judges. That's that's that's what I can give you. 267 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: He's good on judges everybody, and he is good on that. 268 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: But anything else, I don't know. Very swampy, very swampy, 269 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: real herschal in. So we can rely on Mansion being 270 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: totally erratic, and maybe they're not able to get as 271 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: much passed through the Senate when it comes to judges. 272 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: Because thankfully we have got the house, even though it 273 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: mostly hasn't been called officially everywhere yet, but we're sitting 274 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: right at what two seventeen, and effectively we're going there. 275 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of calls. Let's take a couple 276 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: of them here, if we can Sandra in Buffalo. By 277 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: the way, Buffalo, you guys are about to get like 278 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: six feet set of snow. Hi, guys, that's nothing. Hey, 279 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: what's up? Hey? Two feet? Six feet is nothing for us? 280 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm all in for Trump head from since 281 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, actually since he came down the escalator in 282 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Um, I don't think anyone else could handle 283 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: you know what's about to come. M'm I'm with him, 284 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: win or lose till the end. Okay, So let me 285 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: ask you this. I understand that. And look, Buck and 286 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I are both happy to vote for Donald Trump if 287 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: he's a nominee in twenty twenty four. It would be ecstatic, 288 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: right like to We need to win, We need to 289 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: be Biden or whoever the nominee is. What if he's 290 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: not the nominee? Are you not going to vote for 291 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: a Republican candidate? If Trump were not the nominee, I 292 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: will vote for the Republican candidate. But that's that's only 293 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: if Trump's not in it. If Trump doesn't get the nomination. 294 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm you're not saying like, if Trump doesn't win, 295 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting out the election because Buck, We've heard from 296 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: some people that will say that, They're like, I don't 297 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: know how true that kind of never not Trump, you 298 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: could say there's a bit of that going on, right 299 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: instead of never Trump. 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His latest piece here is 326 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: mid Term post Mortem Finale and the subheadline play stupid games, 327 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Win stupid prizes. Ryan, Great to have you back. Thank 328 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: you for having me. All Right, so let's just start 329 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: with what do we need to learn from this midterm? Right? 330 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got this audience very up to speed 331 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: obviously on you know who won, who lost and some 332 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: of the broad themes. What are the takeaways that the 333 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: data now and explain how the data does it make 334 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: pretty ironclad? Okay, So first, mostly importantly, there was no 335 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: youth quake. The media has had this narrative coming out 336 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: that there was this giant army of young jen people 337 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: voting Democrat. Didn't happen at all. They did vote Democrat, 338 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: but they came out at a smaller level than they 339 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: did in twenty eighteen, and they actually voted more Republican. 340 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: The data shows that the tops universities tissed college civic life. 341 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: They're the ones who analyze the youth vote every year. 342 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: They said it. David Shore, the brilliant liberal data analysts, 343 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: looked at all the counties where young people are voting 344 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: was down. All of them didn't happen whatsoever. Secondly, abortion 345 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: major major, major driver for independence, and people who disliked 346 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Biden but didn't hate Biden. So people who had light 347 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: unfavorability were driven towards Democrats for two reasons. Abortion and 348 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: nine twenty twenty election really really really drove them away 349 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: in very strong numbers, and you can see it in 350 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: the issue of Arizona. In Arizona there were nine statewide candidates, 351 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: five of them Republicans won or are winning currently for loss. 352 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Before that loss, all ran him. The election was stolen. 353 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: The five one did not talk about the election being stolen. 354 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: That was a major, major indicator, and that's probably why 355 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Trump yesterday during his hour long announcement, didn't mention the 356 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: election being stolen whatsoever. That well, a lot of people 357 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: were also motivated to vote against Trump, more motivated to 358 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: vote against Trump than were motivated to vote against Biden, 359 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: which is very, very very unusual. And that's why Independence. 360 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: While Republicans had larger turnout numbers, Republicans really did a 361 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: good job turning out. And that wasn't the popular vote, 362 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: but it was swaying against Us, swaying against Independence, and 363 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: people who only lean Republican that really had they really 364 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: had a big effect. Can equality Let's talk about that 365 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: for a second. Can equality does matter to a point? 366 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: You the guy. So there's a guy named Tom Horne. 367 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: He's currently winning an unseeming and incumbent Democrat in the 368 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: state of Arizona republic instruction. He's gonna be the superintendent 369 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: for the whole state. He is a seventieth and year 370 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: old man, a lot of history, a lot of baggage, 371 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of negative stories about him in the media. 372 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: He's running against bilingual education, running against CRT d Ei, YadA, YadA, YadA. 373 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: He won why because he talked about the issues that 374 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: really affected people, that were popular, that were conservative. He 375 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: never ran away from them. But he didn't delve into 376 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: abortion and he didn't delve into the twenty twenty election. 377 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: Reverse that with the guy who ran in Pennsylvania for governor. 378 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: Doug Mastriano, talked NonStop about the election, said he wanted 379 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: to imprison women and charge them with murder if they 380 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: had an abortion, and said Jesus Christ himself with intervene 381 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: in the election to make sure that he won them. 382 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: Huge mistake, Uh, none other thing. And then will go 383 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: to I'll let you guys talk whatever, but um, republic 384 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: show your show, right. Um. Well, Republicans way overperformed in 385 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of blue areas that didn't matter. So Republicans 386 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: had all time highs in New York City elects congressional elections, 387 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: all time high in the Los Angeles congressional elections. They 388 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: overperformed by them by ten something points in some of 389 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: these places. It's just in the places that they needed 390 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: to overperform, they consistently underperformed. That was problematic. They did 391 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: much better with Asians somewhat better with Latinos and rural 392 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: black blacks who live in the black belt of the South. 393 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: And I think the last lea we've had a lot 394 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: of questions right now was why are Republicans now re 395 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: electing all the people in leadership McConnell, McCarthy, YadA, YadA, YadA. 396 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: How are they being rewarded. There's an organization on the 397 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: left called Act Blue. Act Blue connects twenty one million 398 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: small dollar Democratic donors with campaigns. Is how John Fetterman 399 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: was able to raise seventy five million dollars for his 400 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: Senate campaign on top of the hundreds of millions of 401 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: dollars for other congressional campaigns fifteen million against Marjorie Taylor 402 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Green in a super safe Republican district. Republicans don't have 403 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: anything close to this on our side. And the only 404 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: thing that the Republicans can as have to lean on 405 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: are Kevin McCartney and mister McConnell, and they're super PACs, 406 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's something a reason why they're doing 407 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: well posts a fairly not good midterm election. All right, Ryan, 408 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. I love when you come on and just 409 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: break down the data for us. So let's play it forward. 410 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: If you were looking at the data that you have 411 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: seen in twenty twenty two, and you were saying, what 412 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: needs to happen for a Republican presidential candidate to win 413 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, And we understand it's two years 414 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: away and that the issues can change and everything can 415 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: evolve many different directions. But would it be fair to 416 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: say no one can talk about the twenty twenty election 417 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and denying it. That there needs to be some form 418 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: of abortion policy that is put in place, whether it's like, hey, 419 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I believe that you should be able to have an 420 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: abortion up to fifteen weeks or whatever it is. I'm 421 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: talking about a national candidate who's going to win some 422 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: of these purplish states. What would have to happen for 423 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: Republicans to win in twenty four given what you're talking 424 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: about happened in Arizona, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania and Nevada, 425 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: in Michigan and Wisconsin, all those states out there where 426 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: this election is going to be decided. Yeah, so the 427 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election can never be revisited. It's just it's over. 428 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: You could talk about ballot harvesting, you could talk about checking, 429 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: you could talk about whatever you want. But if you 430 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: bring up at this point, if you are anything close 431 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: to a suburban district and you bring up the fact 432 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty election was stolen, you're going to lose. 433 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: It's just the case you're going to lose. That is, 434 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: it drives college educated white voters away, and there are 435 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: more of them than there are of minorities. So they 436 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: basically started to cut you off. But they basically branded 437 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: that so well Democrats did for even independent college educated 438 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: voters that if you're even touching that, you're like, it's 439 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: like a third rail for independent voters, you lose. Yeah, 440 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: that it's think of it like think of it like 441 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: privatizing social Security something that oh, I don't know. Canids 442 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: like Rick Scott and Blake Master's also campaigned on another 443 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: third rail. You could privately believe it. I don't care. 444 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things people privately believe but don't 445 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: talk about empolite society. At this point, it seems so 446 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: toxic to people, even people who dislike Joe Biden, that 447 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: if you bring it up, there's a good chance you 448 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: will lose talking about it. That is why Donald Trump, 449 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: in an hour long speech, did not mention once that 450 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: that the presidential electram was stolen because the just the 451 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: data is out there, the polls have shown this. People 452 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that you need to win, to win big elections, do 453 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: not believe that, do not like talking about that. And 454 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: they really have believed the whole you know MSNBC line 455 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: of the democracy is under a threat, and they it 456 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: feeds into the narrative that in the abortion conversation that 457 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: Republicans are weird, Republicans are against your freedoms, Republicans are 458 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: they talk like they are all at a Trump rally 459 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: or a Seapack conference. That definitely hurts them. And furthermore, 460 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: about abortion, you meske an abortion before it. If a 461 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: candidate says I have support, I'm pro life without exception, 462 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: it is as detrimental to a Republican as a Democrat 463 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: saying I want to defund the police. That is how 464 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: badly it polls. So when you hear somebody saying that, 465 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: remember independence, are hearing defund the police, that is the 466 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: same exact knee jerk reaction. I think personally, the federal 467 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: government does not have any role to play an abortion law. 468 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: It never did before In eighteen seventy something and never 469 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: will I hopefully never will again. The states should decide 470 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: just sit there and say I don't support I do 471 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: not want the federal government being involved in your abortions. 472 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: I just don't want it. You have to take a 473 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: more libertarian standmate, that is the way the public is 474 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: on the issue, and just back away from it. And Ryan, 475 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: pro life governors did win though on last week by 476 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: the huge margins in Ohio, Texas, Areada, Georgia. Yeah, Ryan, 477 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: up one more thing. This is running up against the clock, 478 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: and people should subscribe if you want to really see 479 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: what's going on in politics across the country. The National 480 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: Populace newsletter that Ryan has on sub stack and we'll 481 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: put it up at klanbuck dot com. We'll link it 482 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: there as people can find it easily where Ryan. One 483 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: more for you on this. You know, I can't tell 484 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: you how many text messages I've gotten in the last 485 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: week from people who are involved in campaigns, and what 486 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: they all keep saying to me is we have to 487 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: get the message to the top. If we tell people 488 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: to just show up on election day, if we do 489 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: not run mail in ballot campaigns ourselves, if we do 490 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: not use the rules as they are currently in place. 491 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who some of these candidates are or 492 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: who the presidential candidate is, they will lose. Absolutely, That's 493 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. As well. This romanticization that we 494 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: have towards only voting on election day is arry asinine. 495 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: If you believe that they're going to screw with the 496 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: machines on election day, that's fine, go vote early. Give 497 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: they give them sometimes months to vote early, saying I 498 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: don't agree with but as long as those are the 499 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: rules in place, you need to take advantage of the rules. 500 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: If I was on herschel Walker's campaign right now, which 501 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm not, but if I was, all I would be 502 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: doing is collecting early ballots and distributing them and dropping 503 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: off either a drop boxes or to the Board of 504 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: Elections or whatever the case may be. But making sure 505 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: people vote early and getting the numbers. That's why before 506 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: the polls closed in Florida, Decenus had already won. He 507 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: won Miami Dad a week before election day because they 508 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: had gotten Republicans out in large enough numbers that they 509 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: knew Miami Dad was over. They knew the whole election 510 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: was over a week out and it's very nice to sit. 511 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: They're in have that position where you're comfortable enough to sit. 512 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: They're in have at and know you're gonna win. So 513 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: far in advance. It's a turnout method. It's also swaying 514 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: independent voters. But the turnour method. 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This message has been sponsored by 539 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: Preborn Welcome Back in Clay or Avis buck Sexton show. 540 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: How good was Ryan Gerdusky summing up what the data 541 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: is showing us from the twenty twenty two elections, And look, 542 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: I understand that sometimes you're gonna hear things that make 543 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: you upset, but I thought he did such a good 544 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: job of saying, Look, if you're gonna focus on denying 545 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election results, that's gonna spin to many people 546 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: out there who are independent voters. As if you're saying 547 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: fund the police, they're just over it, right. I understand 548 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: that on some level, a lot of people who are 549 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: out there who were independent voters, they don't want to 550 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: sit around and relitigate old elections. I understand that a 551 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of you are angry over what happened in twenty twenty. 552 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Buck and Eye still are two. But at some point 553 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: it gets to a question of do you want to 554 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: be angry or do you want to win? And I 555 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: think that's such a question that a lot of Republicans 556 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: have to ask themselves as we get ready for twenty 557 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. And here's what I'll say about Trump. Trump 558 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: wants to win. Buck. He did an hour long announcement. 559 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: They got this data to him. You watched it. I 560 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: watched it. He didn't election den I at all. He 561 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: didn't focus on twenty twenty. He was already looking towards 562 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And again, the data doesn't lie right. 563 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: You can have anecdotal stories where you talk to your 564 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: high school roommate or your high school best friend, your 565 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: college roommate, whoever it might be, and they'll say, oh, 566 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: I voted this way because of this reason. But when 567 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: we don't win independence and Joe Biden is the worst 568 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: president of our lifetime. To me, it means that a 569 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: lot of independent voters out there have decided that Republicans 570 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: are too extreme and that they don't trust Republicans to 571 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: solve problems any better than Democrats would. I would add 572 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: to that or just maybe shape that a little bit 573 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: with they think that that one or two components of 574 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: Republican messaging in some places by some candidates were extreme. See, 575 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: this is the problem. We sat here, Clay and we 576 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: talked about how the economy Republicans have a huge advantage on. 577 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: That's the biggest issue. Crime, Republicans have a huge advantage on. 578 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: That's the second, based on the consistent polling over many months, 579 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: that's the biggest issue. Immigration, which we're gonna talk more 580 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: about here in a second, a legal immigration, a big 581 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: issue that didn't really seem to have much effect on 582 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: this election at all, and that may be in part 583 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: because you know, there are people We have to think 584 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: of this like, you know, there's ten people on one 585 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: side of the line, ten people on the other side 586 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: of the line, and we're fining over one or two 587 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: people in the middle, and whoever gets those one or 588 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: two people to their side of that line wins the election. 589 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: And those one or two people in this analogy were 590 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: very not wanting to, very much not wanting to hear 591 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty. And in some cases, in some places 592 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: like Pennsylvania, with Mastriano, for example, on the abortion issue, 593 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: it was too extreme for them and that blocked out 594 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: other things where they would agree with Republicans. So it's 595 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: not like the Republican Party is too extreme overall, it's 596 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: all those two issues the messages clouded everything else, depending 597 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: on where we're talking about, because obviously that wasn't the 598 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: case in Texas and Florida. Anyway, go ahead, Yeah, No, 599 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, if you want to win 600 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: a state that is a toss up state, you cannot 601 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: come out and say I'm against abortion in all cases. 602 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: Now you more out there listening, can certainly be that way. 603 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: But when Mastriano came out and said, I don't believe 604 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: in rape exemptions exceptions, I don't believe in life of 605 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: the mother, like whatever, those whatever those circumstances were when 606 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: he answered those questions, again, you can get forty percent 607 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: of the vote and if you're just like, hey, all 608 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I care about is being one hundred percent committed to 609 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: exactly what I believe. I respect that, but it's not 610 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: gonna win. And I think that you have to be 611 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: calculated in balancing equities here, right, Like so much of 612 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: adulthood is not good versus evil, as many of you 613 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: out there have experienced in your life, it's better versus 614 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: not very good, right, if you consistently make pretty good choices. 615 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: I say this every day I try to be pretty 616 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: good at everything that I do all day long. Not 617 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna be great, not gonna be awful. If you can 618 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: just be pretty good every day, you stack up a 619 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: lot of pretty goods. You end up in a really 620 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: out standing place. And I think that's the challenge for 621 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: Republicans going forward as we look at twenty four and buck, 622 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm really encouraged at what Trump's address last night sounded like. 623 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: People said it was boring. We don't have to worry 624 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: about whether Trump is boring or not. But if he 625 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: can hit on the right subjects and deliver on them, 626 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: he can win this race. Trump Trump on policy without 627 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: distractions and personal feuding is an unstoppable political force. I 628 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: think that's right about. If we get that. If we 629 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: get that, Trump trains going all the way to victory. Station. Friends, 630 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get that. That's I think 631 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: that's going to be what we're what the focus is 632 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: certainly over the next six months as he builds the 633 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: campaign and gets going. But that speech last night actually 634 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: made me more hopeful for a Trump Realfe me too. 635 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: Fleet Travis, and Buck Sexton on the front lines of 636 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: Shoot H