1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Tim. We're on vacation this week, but 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: the Crash Course team wanted to reair an episode we 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: had fun making about a small business in my hometown. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: We published this episode around the third anniversary of the 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: initial COVID nineteen lockdowns back in March, but the holiday 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: season is the most important time of year for small businesses, 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: so it feels fitting to share this episode again. Now, 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and happy holidays. We'll see you next year. 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Now here's the show. If you're ever invited to visit 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: a bakery at four o'clock in the morning, I highly 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: recommend you do it, but here's a warning. You might 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: get put to work. I can handle those, okay, I 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: can handle those, all right. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: And you just dip it in. You just don't want 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: it to get like too much of a globby math, 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: so you just sort of like there and. 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: One of these called strawberry sprinkle donuts. 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Strawberry sprinkle donuts. 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Amazing, Okay, I'm now I'm gonna dip a bunch of 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: donuts into strawberry glaze and then put sprinkles on. 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: Top of it. 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: That's my duty for today. However much I enjoyed my 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: brief internship as a baker with Amy. That wasn't the 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: main event for me. I was there to talk to 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: the bakery's owner, Rachel Wyman, and she came bearing treats. 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: You want to be ruined for the rest of your life? 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeahs ruined me for the rest of my life. Oh gosh, 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: a hot blazed donut. 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: I have literally a hot glazed donut that was just 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: put in my palm on a piece of wax paper 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: that looks like Nirvana. And I'm gonna go ruin myself 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: for a minute because Rachel invited me to do that, 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have this donnu. Welcome to Crash Course, 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: a podcast about business, political, and social disruption and what 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: we can learn from it. I'm Tim O'Brien. Today's Crash 37 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: Course small Businesses versus the Pandemic. Three years after the 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen lockdowns, I invite you to think back to 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: those early days. 40 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen can be characterized as a pandemic. 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: All but promises that the coronavirus will spread. Here today, 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I am officially declaring a national emergency. 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: Only essential businesses will be functioning. 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: All businesses will need to shut down. 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Remember when practically overnight it seemed that every shop closed 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: its doors. You remember how all of those small businesses 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: you might have taken for granted, the ones that gave 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: life and an identity to your community, suddenly felt essential 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: to you. I sure do. Montclair Bread Company was one 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of those shops. For me. It's souredaugh bread was a 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: staple on my family's dinner table, and it's maple bacon 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: donuts are the best in the world. As I watched 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: lots of small businesses in my small town in New 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Jersey struggle, I didn't want the bakery to disappear. I 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: didn't want any of those stores to close. So I 56 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: started writing about them in their fight, just a few 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: businesses among tens of millions across the country that faced 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: an existential crisis because of COVID nine nineteen and I 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: started with Rachel Wyman, the owner of Montclair Brett. I 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: learned that she'd overcome so much a bad marriage, a 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: terrible bike accident, and money problems. Yet she found the 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: strength to leave her husband and raise her three children 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: on her own. And even though she had very little 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Rachel chose just about the riskiest career you could imagine 65 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: the small business owner she had Moxie. I kept in 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: touch with her and watched her take on the trials 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: and tribulations of the pandemic threw at her. What I 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: didn't understand when I first got to know her back 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty was that I would end up following 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: her journey for nearly three years through an unimaginable public 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: health and economic crisis. This is that story. 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: You know. I've been thinking about this so much recently 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: because you know, we're coming up on the anniversary of that, 74 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: and all these pictures are popping up from February twenty twenty, 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: like me and the kids, and it's like, God, we 76 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: had no idea, we had no clue what was going 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: to happen in just a couple weeks. 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: When you're looking at those pictures, are you looking at 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: like the faces of people on the deck of the Titanic? 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, exactly, I am. And I think, you know, 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: I still think that I suffer like PTSD from that 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty, and I just can't let go of 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: a lot of things that happened during that year. As 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: you know, an essential service worker. It's been really hard 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: for me to go back to you know, status quo. 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Before we hop back in time to the early days 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, we should probably hop a little further 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: back in Rachel's story so you can understand how much 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: was on the line for her. She's earned everything she has. 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Rachel grew up with little money in rural Maryland, worked 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: her way through school, and fell in love with bread 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: and pastries. After a state in France, she went to 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: the Culinary Institute of America, baked with some of the 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: biggest names in the bread business, and then decided to 95 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: go off on her own. She started by giving away 96 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: bread to moms in her yoga class, and then tried 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: breaking in through local farmers markets. Then one of those 98 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: moms told her about a local bakery for sale. 99 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: I pitched it to the moms who had been picking 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: up bread at my apartment, and they gave me the 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: money that I needed to get going. 102 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: So your seed capital were your moms, Yeah, yeah, moms 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: who were coming off for bread exactly? 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 6: And how much did you raise for me? 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 106 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, when we're talking about seed capital, 107 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars total is what. 108 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 6: I had on day one. 109 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: This was back in twenty twelve, she juggled launching her 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: own shop while still working for another bread company full time. 111 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: So the only day of the week that I had 112 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: to focus on my bakery was Sunday, and that's when 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: I would like test recipes and try out new things 114 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: and make food for the staff. 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 6: And we made donuts one day. 116 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: And they were gone in a second, and we did 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: a light bulb go off. Well yeah kind of, I'm like, wow, 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: that's great, Let's do it again next week. And so 119 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: every Sunday we made donuts and the lines got longer 120 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: and longer and longer. 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 6: And then it became a thing. Then it was a thing. Yeah, 122 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 6: I mean the donuts saved the business. 123 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Rachel was on the map. It was time to cut 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the parachute strings. After two years, she quit her other 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: job and went all in at Montclair Bread Company. She 126 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: had found her place in the world doing what she loved, 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: and she was good at it, like really good. And 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: others began paying attention. 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: The town starts noticing, the press starts noticing, I'm getting 130 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: all of these accolades, get to go on a food 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: network and in the New York Times, And the better 132 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: it gets. 133 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 6: On the outside the harder it gets. 134 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: At home, she was consumed with self doubt. 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: So even though everyone else thinks that I'm this like 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: rock star, I think I'm like the worst mother in 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: the world. 138 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 6: And you know that I can't run this business, and 139 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 6: that I've you know. 140 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Ruined our family life and had all of these things, 141 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: and it was awful. 142 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 6: It was awful. 143 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Rachel decided she wanted a divorce, but had a hard 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: time actually leaving her husband. Her landlord also kicked her 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: out of her bakery, and then she got into a 146 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: bike accident while training for an iron Man triathlon, shattering 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: her pelvis. 148 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: It was always something like that, anytime we got a 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: little bit ahead, there'd be. 150 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 6: Something like that that would pop up. 151 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: That would you know, And yet you overcame all those yeah, yeah, yeah. 152 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Rachel found a new home and finally left her husband. 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: She was a single mother working crazy hours, but Montclair 154 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Bread was able to move to a bigger, nicer building 155 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: around the corner, a renovated industrial space full of big 156 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: windows and spectacular brickwork, and of course, there was a 157 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: smell of baking bread. In addition to finding a new 158 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: home for her business, Rachel's body healed, though doctors told 159 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: her she would never be able to run again. She 160 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: clocked her best marathon time ever in the fall of 161 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, just a year after her accident. I was 162 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: on top of the world when COVID hit, and hit 163 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: it did. 164 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: At the beginning, I believed it was only going to 165 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: be two weeks. 166 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Think all of us did, remember fifteen days to slow 167 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: the spread. Now I think, how were we so naive? 168 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: While other businesses were closing shop, Rachel was determined to 169 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: stay open, even if she was the only one there. 170 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: She'd been forced to lay off twenty of her employees, 171 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: and without that extra help, she had to work around 172 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: the clock. 173 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: I worked eighteen hours. I went home, I slept in 174 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: the clothes that I worked in. I got up and 175 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: I did it again. And it's the same time that 176 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: people are on social media talking about how they make 177 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: their partner who works at a hospital, you know, leave 178 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: their clothes in the garage and come it. And I'm like, 179 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: I haven't changed my clothes and days. 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: Rachel lost big orders and had to cut lucrative items 181 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: from her menu, but she was also scrappy and got creative. 182 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: She sold groceries and meal kits and diy baking packages 183 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: out of the store, and the community rallied around her. 184 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: I baked and sold more bread than I've ever baked 185 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: and sold in my career because people couldn't get it 186 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: at the grocery stores, so they actually bought bread from me. 187 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: So you sort of had a little boomlet early on. Definitely, 188 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Definitely she kept going, but it was a lot. 189 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 2: I really didn't think that I could sustain it. 190 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: Did you think it was going to kill you? Did 191 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: you think the pandemic was going to kill you? 192 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 193 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: I did. I just reached my breaking point so many times, 194 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: and I just would sit there and not know how 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: to do it again tomorrow. 196 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: She wound up doing what more than five million other 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: small businesses did. She looked to the federal government for help. 198 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, everybody winds about government spending until they need 199 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: help when there's a hurricane or of flood. Who you 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: going to call when there's a massive economic contraction like 201 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: there was in two thousand and eight. Who you going 202 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: to call when there's an unprecedented economic meltdown combined with 203 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: the historic public health crisis? Who you going to call? Yeah? Washington. 204 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 7: So what did the federal government do? The federal government 205 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 7: acted quickly, and it made a program which put cash 206 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 7: into the hands of small business owners. 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: That's Karen Mills, President Obama's first leader of the Small 208 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Business Administration. She's describing how the Trump and Biden Whitehouses 209 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: ultimately channeled nearly one trillion dollars to small businesses. The 210 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: main program was an essential, well intentioned, yet chaotic scramble 211 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: known as the Paycheck Protection Program. 212 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 7: I never thought i'd see the day where three hundred 213 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 7: and fifty million dollars was in the same paragraph as 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: the word SBA. But that's how much money was in 215 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 7: the first trash of PPP that lasted about two and 216 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 7: a half weeks. 217 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: That time, and funding went by in a flash, especially 218 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: for people like Rachel. 219 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: Of course, at the time, we didn't know there was 220 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: going to be a second round of funding, so the 221 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: funding was gone, and how did that feel? 222 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Defeating oversight and management of the PPP effort was slipshot. 223 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Steve Manuchin, who engineered the effort, was reluctant 224 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: to be transparent about the process, even when he was 225 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: specifically asked about it during a Senate hearing in May 226 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty nearly two months after the legislation providing 227 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: for PPP was passed. Here's Senator John Tester of Montana. 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 8: When can we see full information about who's getting the dollars? 229 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Well, let me just comment. When we negotiated this bipartisan deal, 230 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: we agreed to unprecedented transparency, So we agree to release 231 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: things that are not required by thirteen to three. So 232 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: I don't know why you haven't seen that. We've everything's 233 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: posted on our website or the Fed's website. 234 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: They went back and forth a few times. Are you 235 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: sure the information is there? Yep? It's there. Are you 236 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: sure yep? The Tester wasn't buying it. 237 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 8: I look forward to seeing that list, by the way, 238 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 8: Secretary Mansion, and I'm going to go online and I'm 239 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 8: going to search it because I'm going to tell you 240 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 8: that as much transparency as you said, are with this program, 241 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 8: as a center from Montana, as a member of the 242 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 8: Banking Committee, I'm not seeing any of it. 243 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, it wasn't clear exactly who was getting the 244 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: funding or how it was being used. Rachel couldn't get 245 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: PPP money the time it was offered, and she watched 246 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: her application stall online. She ended up applying for a 247 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: loan four times before she finally got some money one 248 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: hundred and five thousand dollars. It saved her business and 249 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: then some. 250 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 6: For the first time in history. 251 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: January twenty twenty one, we officially were one hundred percent 252 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: debt free Love Her Bread Company. We paid off all 253 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: of our investors, We paid off any debts that we had. 254 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: You know, we got a good staff and everything. It 255 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: was just like, all right, We're never going back there. 256 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: We will never be back in this place again where 257 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: we have so much debt on the business. Like it 258 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: feels too good to get ahead. What do we have 259 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: to do to stay here? 260 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: She started off January twenty twenty one on a new foot, 261 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: and there were reasons to think the end of the 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: pandemic was in sight. 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: I got my vaccination on January sixth, twenty twenty one. 264 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: I was one of the first because at the time 265 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: there was a windowwhere anyone who was working in the 266 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: service industry in front of people could get in. 267 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Did the vaccines feel like sort of a God send 268 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: to you when they came along. 269 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely just felt like relief because there were 270 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: just so many unknowns. No one knew when it would end, 271 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: how it would end. I don't think it has ended, 272 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: but it just felt like there was progress. 273 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: And the vaccines gave you a sense of control over things, 274 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: or more control. 275 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: Than you had I ever feel, yeah, or you know, 276 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: it's just like that peace of mind from having that 277 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: PPP loan, you know, sitting in our account as a buffer. 278 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: I think the vaccine was that same piece of mind, 279 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: like I guess some level of protection. 280 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: That peace of mind was nice while it lasted. When 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: we get back from the break, I'll take you through 282 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: year two of Rachel's experience during the pandemic twenty twenty one, 283 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: and the big idea is she had to grow her business. 284 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: That's next. The story of Rachel's twenty twenty one might 285 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: actually start back in twenty twenty, when Rachel was so 286 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: burnt out that she decided to close Montclair Bread for 287 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: two days and rent an airbnb in New Pulse, New York. 288 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: She knew the area well from when she went to 289 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the Culinary Institute of America nearby, and I. 290 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: Went up there and I got to run on the 291 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: trails and have a quiet space. At the time, I 292 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: couldn't run something that I used to keep my sanity running. 293 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: Although it's therapeutic, it's not therapy, That's what I've been told. 294 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: She rented that airbnb once a month for six months. 295 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: She went for runs, rested, recharged, and she ended up 296 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: writing a book in that Airbnb, We'll Run for Donuts, 297 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: The Montclair Bread Company Cookbook. Rachel eventually decided to rent 298 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: a cheap studio apartment in New Paults while also keeping 299 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: her families rental in Montclair. Although she originally sought an 300 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: escape in New Pults, she eventually found inspiration too, in 301 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: the form of a new business opportunity. It all started 302 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: after she took up rock climbing. Climbing helped her clear 303 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: her head and make new friends. So after Montclair Bread 304 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: closed on Sunday, she'd head up to New Pults. 305 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: And if there were donuts left over, I'd pack them 306 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: up and take them to my climbing friends. So then 307 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: they started asking for them, then they started ordering them, 308 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: and then I was in a parking lot and a 309 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: trailhead with donuts in my trunk, like you know, on 310 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon, handing them out to these climbing friends and 311 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: friends and friends. And I thought, there's got to be 312 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: a more reasonable way to do this. 313 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: She followed a familiar path. First she gave the donuts away, 314 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Then she found a farmer's market. 315 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: We set up at the farmer's market. In the first week, 316 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: there's like couple people in line three. There's a line 317 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: all the way across the parking lot and down the 318 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: block waiting for the donuts. 319 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: Then she opened a new shop in New Pults in 320 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: the fall of twenty twenty one, and she felt really 321 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: embraced by the community there. 322 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: The first weekend I was open. It was a soft opening. 323 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: I never publicized it, and I had every member of 324 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: the town council come and introduce themselves and give me 325 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: their phone numbers in case I needed anything. 326 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: This was all going on around the time a new 327 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen variant Delta was making its rounds. Even though 328 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: infection surged, Rachel was feeling good about the state of 329 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: her business until the holiday season came around and pushed 330 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Rachel to her brink because the embrace she felt from 331 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: the New Paltz community was sometimes hard to find in Montclair, 332 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: and an even more infectious COVID variant Omicron was waiting 333 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: in the wings. All of this made the holidays more stressful. 334 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: First Thanksgiving holiday dedicated to gratitude. 335 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: You know, we were really short staff on Thanksgiving Day, 336 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: but we opened to give out orders and for retail, 337 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: and of course we start selling out because it's Thanksgiving 338 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Day and people were just screaming at my staff. Somebody 339 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: screamed at one of the retail employees because it took 340 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: three minutes to wait for her coffee. 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: Second Christmas, a holiday dedicated to salvation. 342 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: Christmas Eve was when we got the first call out. 343 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: We got everything like shuffled around. A couple hours later, 344 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: somebody else called out, and then I feel like, well 345 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: do we close for the week. 346 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 6: We can't afford to. 347 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: We have to be open at least three days this 348 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: week for the orders that we've already taken. 349 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: Third New Year's Eve, a holiday dedicated to renewal. 350 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, we get the first baker call out, 351 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: so we had six people out and two people pending tests, 352 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: and we decided to close on the first and second. 353 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: So for two weeks ends in a row, we were closed. 354 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Montclair Bread needed twelve people to open its doors every 355 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: day any less, and they were facing major inefficiencies. Orders 356 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't come out on time. With twenty people on staff 357 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: and only twelve who were full time employees, that left 358 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: little wiggle room for Omicron infections, so they decided to 359 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: close shop for a whole week. Rachel committed to paying 360 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: anyone on her staff who was scheduled to work, but 361 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: no new money was coming in. 362 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: The two weeks that we had to close days the 363 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: weekends would have been our busiest weeks of the year, 364 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: and they were the worst that. 365 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 6: We've had on record for December. 366 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: So normally that would give us a buffer to get 367 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: through January and February where sales are always low. 368 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 6: We always cut hours. 369 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: And January and February, but there's no buffer, like there's nothing. 370 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 6: To get us through. 371 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Suddenly, Rachel was at the end of her rope because 372 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: Omicron had spent weeks stating her bakery's business. The peace 373 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: of mind and protection she felt like she had at 374 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: the beginning of twenty twenty one was gone. 375 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: There was definitely a time in my life where I 376 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: would have opened at any cost, even if it was 377 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: just me. But by December twenty twenty one, I'm like 378 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: closed the door, Just lock the door. 379 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Rachel sent an email to Montclair Bread's customers right after 380 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: the new year, with the subject line SOOS, she wrote 381 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: that she was waving her white flag. When my wife 382 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: received that email, I worried a closed sign might appear 383 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: in Rachel's window soon, so I dropped by to check 384 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: in on her. The pandemic was starting to take its 385 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: toll on Rachel, on her staff, her customers, everyone. 386 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: Two years ago, at the beginning of this, you had 387 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: this incredible community support because we were open when no 388 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: one else was. 389 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 6: But now. 390 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: There's just, you know, overall, a lack of empathy for 391 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: what small businesses were going through and enduring. The big 392 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: thing that they don't appreciate is that we're not making 393 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: up the rules. There's no playbook for us, and there's 394 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: no centralized agency either local, state. 395 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 6: Federal, that's giving us any source of information about how 396 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 6: we're supposed to handle it. Like we're deciding the fate 397 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: of everything. 398 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Just like three of us who don't have medical backgrounds, 399 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: don't have science backgrounds. We just bake Brett and we're 400 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: like trying to make all of these decisions. 401 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: In her SOS email, Rachel asked her customers to contact 402 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: their local elected leaders. Montclair's mayor and town councilors, New 403 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Jersey's governor. She didn't feel like local officials were providing 404 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: her with clarity or guidance about steps she needed to 405 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: take to respond to the crisis, and when she tried 406 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: reaching out to them for help, she didn't have much luck. 407 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: I tried to interview Montclair's mayor and the town's top 408 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: administrative official about their responses to COVID, but they wouldn't 409 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: take my call. Finally, a member of Montclair's town council 410 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: did return my mind call, Peter Yacobellis. He's the kind 411 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: of guy you want in local government, dedicated, friendly, energetic, 412 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: and smart. And it turns out he actually spoke to 413 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Rachel about the concerns she raised in her SOS email, 414 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: and he told me he brought one of her ideas 415 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: to state and local officials, putting together a one pager 416 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: with advice for small businesses on how to handle employee 417 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: questions about quarantines and vaccinations, basic stuff. 418 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: Rachel was the one who set the light bulb off 419 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: for me. 420 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: Now, why didn't that happen earlier? Why didn't that happen 421 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: in mid twenty twenty? Just too many balls in the air, 422 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: or just a general lack of clarity. 423 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a little bit of who's going to 424 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: do it too, writ whose responsibility as the CDC, the 425 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: federal government stake. 426 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: There to make that call, to make that call. 427 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 4: Right in government, we have a tendency to start with 428 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: experts and start with people at the top and let 429 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: a cascade and filter through. We should start with the 430 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: small business owner. We should start with the homeowner, asking 431 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: them what's going to be easier for you, what's going 432 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: to show up better for you? 433 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: And I had heard other things from other entrepren that 434 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: there were just these little tweaks the township could have 435 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: done that would have made their lives easier as business people. 436 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Is that a legit criticism and has that been addressed? 437 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: If it is, it's a completely legitimate criticism, I personally 438 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: am trying to address it. I do feel like David 439 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: and Goliath when it comes to some of this stuff. 440 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: I think we've got really entrenched ways of doing things 441 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: and not a lot of open mindedness and willingness to 442 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: be dynamic and to try new things and to be innovative. 443 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: Entrepreneurs are forced to be dynamic and innovative in order 444 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: to survive, but they also need help, because tending to 445 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: the needs of small business isn't an abstraction. At the 446 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty one beginning of twenty twenty two, 447 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: Rachel wasn't sure what she was going to do next 448 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: in any part of her life. Her children were struggling 449 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: in school, and she felt local educators were letting her down. 450 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: She felt the town it turned its back on her, 451 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: and she wasn't sure if Montclair Bread Company was going 452 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: to make it. I wasn't sure either. I had a 453 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: feeling of the pandemic and the tough economy, we're going 454 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: to force Rachel to make some big changes. And I 455 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: was right, but not in the way I expected. I'll 456 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: tell you how Rachel made it through the third year 457 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: of the pandemic and about the fate of Montclair Bread 458 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: Company after the break. In a town like Montclair with 459 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: forty thousand people and six shopping districts, every one of 460 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: its storefronts matters. Yeah, there's a Lulu Lemon and an 461 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Urban Outfitters and a Whole Foods, But there's also a 462 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: Watch hung booksellers, and an Egan and Son's restaurant and 463 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: a Montclair Bread A town with just a Target and 464 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: a Walmart and deliveries from Amazon loses something. It loses identity. 465 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, arts, culture, identity. 466 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 9: I mean, well the place becomes a diamond does you 467 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 9: could be anywhere USA. 468 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: This is Jason Gleeson, head of the Montclair Center Business 469 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: Improvement District. The BID is a nonprofit that manages one 470 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: of the shopping districts in town. It helps new businesses 471 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: get settled in and older ones up their marketing games 472 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: while trying to make it easier for both to flourish, 473 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: and it plants flowers. Basically, the BID. 474 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 5: Is there to make sure that downtown Montclair is awesome. 475 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: So Jason is helping the little shop around the corner survive. Why. 476 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 9: I mean, they're the life's blood, right, I mean, it's 477 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 9: the heartbeat of the town. 478 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: What do they bring to the community that's unique from 479 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: your perspective, that would be lost if they weren't there. 480 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 9: I mean, honestly, it's such a simple answer, and it 481 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 9: probably is going to sound like such a cop out, 482 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 9: But like themselves. 483 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: It's about individuality and how that distinguishes small businesses from 484 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: the giants of corporate America. 485 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 9: You know what Apple is, right, it has a shape 486 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 9: and a color and a feeling. 487 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: There's the product, right, you know, it's Apple. 488 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 9: You could probably be blindfolded and someone could hand you 489 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 9: a laptop and you could feel it for a second, 490 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 9: be like, that's probably an Apple laptop. 491 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: Right through all their branding and. 492 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 9: Their marketing exercises and all that, and they spent a 493 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 9: great deal of money doing that. 494 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: But it's not a person. It's not a hug and 495 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 5: a handshake. And I woke up. 496 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 9: At four o'clock in the morning to bake this for you, or, 497 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 9: in the case of some of our retailers, like I 498 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 9: spent the last three months visiting artisans upstate to curate 499 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 9: these products for your home, because I understand you as 500 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 9: my consumer. 501 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: That's why so much was at stake for small businesses 502 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: when the pandemic hit. 503 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 9: Their hopes, their dreams, their families, their college tuitions they're 504 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 9: saving for. 505 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: All of that was on the line when they were 506 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: told to shut down for COVID. Now, as I've told 507 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: you all along, and as her journey proves, Rachel Wyman 508 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: is a survivor. But even she has had to weigh 509 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: whether it's worth fighting. We're throwing in the towel because 510 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen has been an unrelenting opponent. 511 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: I can't keep fighting by myself anymore. I just I 512 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: don't know if it's worth it anymore. I mean, like 513 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: last week I updated my resume. Do you know how 514 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: long it's been since I updated my resume? Like that's 515 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: that's the kind of place I'm in. 516 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: That was Rachel at the beginning of twenty twenty two, 517 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: and then she just decided to start over. 518 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: I've said it so many times, I think everybody here 519 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: has heard me say it at least once. If I 520 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: had it to do all over again, I would just 521 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: do donuts. 522 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Donuts made sense to Rachel, and. 523 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: Then I'm realizing, Wow, the ingredients take up so much 524 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: less space, and I can get up at five in 525 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: the morning and still have donuts at eight in the 526 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 2: morning because it takes that much less time to do 527 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: the donut work, and I can do it with like 528 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: me and one other person. 529 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: In donuts cost less to make them bread, So even 530 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: though they sold for less, they were more profitable, and 531 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: the woman whose identity was wrapped up in bread and 532 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: baking shifted gears. Montclair Bread Company was no more. Rachel 533 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: became the owner of two storefronts with a new name, 534 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: Rabble Rise Donuts. Are you surprised that the bread woman 535 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: has become the donut woman? 536 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: No, I think this transition to Rabble Rized donuts really, 537 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: Like for a while, I fought it and I was 538 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: kind of mad at it, you know that, like I'm 539 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: this great bread baker, and you know, people only want 540 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: the donuts. But then I decided to embrace it because, 541 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: like I said, what do I do better than anyone else? 542 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: I make donuts better than anyone else, And I just 543 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: really wanted to embrace that. So now we're a donut shop. 544 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: Rachel had barely made the transition into donut maestro before 545 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: a whole new series of challenges emerged. Supply chain disruptions 546 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: and soaring inflation made her so to run a simple 547 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: donut shop suddenly complex. The hardships of twenty twenty two 548 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: spilled over into the beginning of twenty twenty three. When 549 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: I sat down with her again to talk. 550 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: I can't even get eggs, like I'm buying them at 551 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: the grocery store right now because I can't get eggs 552 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: from my vendors. Why is that because they're out They're 553 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: out of stock and eggs go in donuts. 554 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: The prices of eggs, flour, and sugar have all soared, 555 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: and obviously that's going to have an effect on her 556 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: bottom line. 557 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the year, I would 558 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: be lucky to have like three percent, you know margin, 559 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: like the great thing used to be. You know, you 560 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: can make a donut for fourteenth cents and then it's 561 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: all the stuff that goes on top that costs the money. 562 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: And that's why we charge what we charge now. It's 563 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: like it costs me a dollar donut before you put 564 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: anything on it. 565 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: So she's had to raise the price of each donut 566 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: from around two between three point fifty to five dollars. 567 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: But guess what, when your donuts are really good, people 568 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: will keep buying them. That's allowed Rachel to dig out 569 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: from some of her lingering financial problems. And by the way, 570 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: she hasn't totally gotten rid of some of the stuff 571 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: I love. When I told her how I missed her 572 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: sourdough bread, she let me in on a secret. If 573 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: you ask, they'll bake bread to order. 574 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of like a teenager that gets grounded, where 575 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: you take away all of their things and then slowly 576 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: you can start giving them back as they like earn 577 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: your respect and trust. So that's what happened. We took 578 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: it all away, and then as our staff and systems 579 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: became more and more efficient, we've been able to add 580 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: some of the parts back. 581 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: So are you telling me actually that those sourdough lows 582 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: are still gettible? 583 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still gettable. In fact, there might be one 584 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: out there right now. 585 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: Now that I'm going to try to lay claim to 586 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: that bread. 587 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know, I think having a 588 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: whole bread program is, you know, costly if you're not 589 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: a wholesale business, if you're not doing volume and bread, 590 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: it's costly. But doing what we do, it's nice because 591 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: all of the bakers on my team enjoy baking bread, 592 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 2: and so it's kind of fun for us to do 593 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: it once a week. 594 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: And I would imagine it's this sort of spiritual and 595 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: creative connection for you to the roots of why you 596 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: started things here. 597 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely. 598 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Even so, Rachel the survivor and Rachel the marathon runner, 599 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Rachel the mom, and Rachel the small business owner isn't 600 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: the same person she was when I first met her 601 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: three years ago. COVID rocked her world, It rocked everyone's world. 602 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: But the Rachel who got to this side of COVID 603 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: isn't sure she'd do it all over again. 604 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: I would never tell a friend to go into this business. 605 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: And if you had to walk away from it, how would. 606 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: That feel like a huge weight was lifted off of 607 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: my shoulders? 608 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: So it would no longer feel like a sense of loss? 609 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: No, no, it wouldn't. 610 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: So you're staying in it now out of a sense 611 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: of duty and obligation rather than joy and fulfillment. 612 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: Correct, yes, that is one hundred percent accurate. 613 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Does it surprise you that that's where you are with 614 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: it now? 615 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: I thought that the rebranding would rejuvenate it enough to 616 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: keep my heart and soul fulfilled, but it didn't really work. 617 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how deflating that feels. Rachel was 618 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: sort of a COVID north star for me. The business 619 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: woman I thought of is unbeatable. While she's not down, 620 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: COVID took a lot away from her that she knows 621 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: she's not getting back to be sure. She has a 622 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: lot of joy in her personal life, her kids, a 623 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: happier life in New Pauls and a new marriage, But 624 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: on the business side of the ledger, she's also considering 625 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: a career change, one that will leave her lesson involved 626 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: with her little bakery in Montclair. This is a familiar 627 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: story for a lot of other small businesses. So many 628 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 1: of them close their doors in a typical year, and 629 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: COVID visited a raft of atypical problems upon all of them. 630 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: One of the foundational ideas of capitalism is creative destruction, 631 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: the notion that businesses are born and fail all the 632 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: time and survival of the fittest is an efficient process. 633 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: But that also discounts another truth that great ideas, services 634 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: and products aren't always easily replaced, and some magic can 635 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: get lost along the way, like a really good loaf 636 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: of bread. Here at Crash Course, we believe the collisions 637 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: can be messy, impressive, challenging, surprising, and always instructive. In 638 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: today's Crash Course, I learned and sometimes you can't fix 639 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: big problems facing small businesses by simply throwing money at them. 640 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: PPP was an epic spending plan, but ultimately it wasn't 641 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: enough and it was never going to work if that 642 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: money wasn't paired with good global public health policies. In 643 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: many cases, COVID turned out to be more powerful than 644 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: money and entrepreneurial grit, even when an entrepreneur was as 645 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: gritty as Rachel. What did you learn? 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