WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Mullets: 'Nuff Said

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to short stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be kind of short, which Chuck and

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<v Speaker 1>I were just discussing. So let's go on with a long,

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<v Speaker 1>meandering intro that has nothing to do with anything. Chuck. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's going to be short in the front and

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe you know what we should have done is

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<v Speaker 1>we should have done like two minutes and then a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial break and then ten minutes. That's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we will the mullet of podcasting. Well, edit out

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<v Speaker 1>this part where we figure it out as we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. All right, maybe we should take a

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<v Speaker 1>break night man. That's an ultra short mullet right there. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about the mullet um business. In the front,

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<v Speaker 1>party in the back always I thought was very funny

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<v Speaker 1>of this hairstyle where your hair is short in the

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<v Speaker 1>front and top and long in the back. The one

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<v Speaker 1>that really got me that I've never heard before. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's fine, the Missouri compromise. Yeah, that way,

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<v Speaker 1>or that's a good one. Kentucky Waterfall. I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 1>that one before either. I hadn't either. That one got me,

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, this Seri compromise really gets me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the hair is working it out, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or the the teenage Judas priest fan is working in

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<v Speaker 1>out with his mom. So let's go ahead and level

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<v Speaker 1>set here and talk about our own history with a mullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had a mullet ever? Have you? I have?

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<v Speaker 1>What I did? Man that there was a time, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, in the eighties where the mullet was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a skater haircut. It was kind of short

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<v Speaker 1>and spiky and then a little longer in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was pre Billy Ray Cyrus and pre sort

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<v Speaker 1>of anyone calling it a mullet. But looking back, it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely what you would consider a mullet, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like a cool skater kid haircut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Hawk had one, did he? Yeah? And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the differentiators too, was like it wasn't short bangs on top,

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<v Speaker 1>like it would come over the one eye from the side,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it would be spiky on top and then

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<v Speaker 1>long in the back. It totally was a mullet. I

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<v Speaker 1>never put two and two together like that, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I still never had one. But there is a very

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing picture from me from like the tenth grade from

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<v Speaker 1>a church uh whatever album? Uh annual yearbook? What are

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<v Speaker 1>they called when their churches? I have no idea. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>churches used to put these out every few years. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bible and we were all in it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>had a mullet. This is the only picture of me

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<v Speaker 1>with a mullet in existence. And I was wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>mullet and Paisley maroon suspenders and a tie. And my

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<v Speaker 1>brother still threatens to that's sort of his big thing

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<v Speaker 1>he holds over my head. Attention, Scott, I'm speaking directly

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<v Speaker 1>to you now. We demand to see that photo. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that I got wise pretty quick, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of tenth grade. It was a short

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<v Speaker 1>lived haircut, and I had sort of the other skater look,

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<v Speaker 1>which was just like long bangs, right. Yeah, So so

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<v Speaker 1>you just lopped off the back of that tony hawk cut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was still a little hair back there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, actually, the most embarrassing haircut I had in

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<v Speaker 1>high school was the that mushroom when you would shave

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<v Speaker 1>around your ears and the and then the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the back and just have sort of a big poof

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<v Speaker 1>on top. I'll take a picture. My my high school

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<v Speaker 1>haircut was a Caesar. You remember those? Oh I had

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<v Speaker 1>one of those for years and years and years. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look it on anybody, especially not that guy on the

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<v Speaker 1>original C S I series. Do you remember him? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever watch that? No? I never saw it. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy who was a very well he was

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<v Speaker 1>an old, older guy, like well into middle age, who

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<v Speaker 1>had a Caesar and it wasn't like accidental, like he

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<v Speaker 1>had a Caesar haircut and it was just an odd

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<v Speaker 1>hairstyle choice, I think for him. All Right, maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>should take a break and we'll actually talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>mullet when we come back. Does that sound good? It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds great. If you want to know, then you're in luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Just chuck shoot sho alright, chuck. So let's get down

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<v Speaker 1>to the mullet a K hockey hair that's another term

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Yeah. Um. Some credit the Beastie Boys with

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<v Speaker 1>popularizing the term mullet. Uh. That had a song in

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<v Speaker 1>il Communication called mullet Head where Ad Rock says, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what's a mullet? Well, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little story to tell about a hairstyle. That's a way

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<v Speaker 1>of life. Have you ever seen him? Bullet wife. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make that much sense, but it does seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be like the first real reference to this hairstyle using

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<v Speaker 1>the word mullet from what anybody can tell. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the term mullet head has long been around just as

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<v Speaker 1>a general derogatory term for a dummy, which had nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the haircut, and they think that may

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<v Speaker 1>have come over from the British derogatory term mull head.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still yeah, that's what they said, but it still

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't explain and maybe they just aren't related how the

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<v Speaker 1>haircut got this name after this weird looking fish. Right, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Mike d wrote a little article about what

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about in that song mullet head, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said that the mullet fish, the mullet fish is

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<v Speaker 1>basically just like one long. It's like oblong, It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a drawing of a whale. Basically, it doesn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of anything that would suggest its head is separate

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<v Speaker 1>from its body. And apparently when it rots, it rots

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<v Speaker 1>from the neck down, which kind of gives it the

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<v Speaker 1>appearance a bit of a mullet or people who have

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<v Speaker 1>the mullet hairstyle look a little bit like a rotting

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<v Speaker 1>mullet fish. I guess as far as Mike D. R

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<v Speaker 1>ad Rock thought, and that that's how he explained where

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<v Speaker 1>that term came from, but that the the use of

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<v Speaker 1>the word mullet had to mean kind of a dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>Um makes uh. Mark Twain frequently cited as the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who turned coined the term mullet, which is way off

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<v Speaker 1>because he was using it in that sense that you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, which is kind of thick headed or or

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<v Speaker 1>dumb or something like that. Yeah. I think the fun

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this article, which we got from How Stuff Works,

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<v Speaker 1>was um kind of tracing back the actual hairstyle through history.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you go back and look, there's a great

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<v Speaker 1>article on history dot Com. Woman named Linda Lacina writes

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<v Speaker 1>about the ancient Greek poet Homer and the Iliad. Wripes

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<v Speaker 1>writes about this group of spearman called the Abantes. They

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<v Speaker 1>had their forelocks cropped and hair grown long at the backs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a full mullet. Yeah. And and Homer wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>Iliad in the eighth century BC, so almost three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years ago at at the at the latest, people were

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<v Speaker 1>already wearing mullets. And there's this other article um from

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<v Speaker 1>Dage Dazed Digital by Oliver Lunn that talks about and

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen pictures of prehistoric peoples that look like they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have a mullet, And practically that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense because you you know, if you're hunting and gathering,

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<v Speaker 1>you need that hair out of your eyes, so you

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<v Speaker 1>might cut it off with a stone tool up front,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you wanted a little further in the back

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<v Speaker 1>to protect from sun or from rain, or to help

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<v Speaker 1>keep you warm. Yeah, the sun is a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>I suspect that's why Andre Agassi had one, because he

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<v Speaker 1>had to go play tennis in the sun all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very sensitive about his neck getting sunburned. Yeah, agassy.

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<v Speaker 1>You think of mullets, You think of Agassy, You think

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<v Speaker 1>of Billy Race Cyrus and uh. There was a basketball

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<v Speaker 1>player for the University of Florida named Dwayne Schintsus that

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<v Speaker 1>I think he played pro for a little while. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was a big, tall center and he had a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic boxy mullet. Did he really Okay? I always think

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<v Speaker 1>of um Sean Thomas Scott, Sewan, William Scott, Kristen Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas one of those. Um he was in Dude, Where's

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<v Speaker 1>My Car? The non Ashton Cuture guy. That was Kristin

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Thomas, right, Um his he had a really fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>mullet in Old school You remember that? Oh yeah, Old Schools.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good movie. Yeah, yeah it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was funny. It was very funny. But he's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who shows up with I can't remember what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>animal to the birthday party of the kids party as

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<v Speaker 1>a drunquil. As you're going that, Will Farrell accidentally shoots

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<v Speaker 1>himself with is this Stiffler? Yeah, Stiffler? That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's funny. You know another movie he was in that

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<v Speaker 1>was underrated and underseen a is uh not Step Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brothers? Oh yes, is that the name of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Where role Models? That's it? That is a good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Paul Rudd wrote that himself. Oh he did.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a David Wayne directed movie. So it all

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. It was good all around everybody and that

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Yeah, he was very funny, very underrated movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think should we talk about a couple of the

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<v Speaker 1>cool examples of mullets in in rock history? That's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you're about to step into some controversy, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch you do it. Well, there's two that I

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<v Speaker 1>can really think of. The one this article mentions is

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<v Speaker 1>David Bowie. That's the controversial one. Yeah, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Ziggy stardusts in the era, he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has what you would consider a mullet, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>died red and he's wearing the Ziggy Stardust outfit, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to call that a mullet, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of is, well from what I saw. The people

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<v Speaker 1>who say it's not a mullet just basically say David

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<v Speaker 1>Bowie was literally too cool to have you would call

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<v Speaker 1>a mullet even when he was wearing a mullet. That's

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<v Speaker 1>their argument basically, which I mean, that's pretty pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 1>as far as the cool factor goes. That people will

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<v Speaker 1>defend you like that. Yeah. The other example is there

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<v Speaker 1>was a time in the seventies where both Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>Linda McCartney had matching mullets and it was really puffy

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<v Speaker 1>and spiky on both of them and very long in

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<v Speaker 1>the back, so, uh, you know, it was a look.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a look for a couple for sure. What

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<v Speaker 1>about Jane Fonda include that that wasn't a mullet? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>My mom had that haircut for a little while in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies, that sort of. I mean, it's a feemullet

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<v Speaker 1>as anything. Did you just coin that term? Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>you never heard that. Now, the lady mullet was always

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<v Speaker 1>called a feemullet. But I know what haircut you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was sort of like a haystack with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the back. Yeah, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to put it. Florence Henderson had one

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, kind of on the Brady Bunch too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of I think of Jane Fondaz is a

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<v Speaker 1>straight up mullet, but maybe maybe it is just a

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<v Speaker 1>female clute. Was such a good movie. I never saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure what it's about. Oh man, you

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<v Speaker 1>should check it out. It's awesome. Okay, well it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mystery. Okay, don't spoil it for me. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of mysteries and movies, get this. I went back

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<v Speaker 1>and watched the original, uh seventies Sydney Lumette version of

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<v Speaker 1>Murder on the Orient Express. That was a good m

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<v Speaker 1>It is delightful. Albert Finney plays her Cuel poor Row,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't even recognize him for the first thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>He does such a good job. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really great movie. It's a it's it's on the internets.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find it. Uh. One final mullet wearer we

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<v Speaker 1>should mention is none other than President James K. Polk.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go look him up, he's certainly he has

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<v Speaker 1>a mullet. Yeah. And what was the name of I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say Maguai, but it wasn't the the bad guy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a mohawk. I can't remember what he was.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the Last of the Mohicans, do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>the bad guy played by West Study, he had I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what's you call. It was a mullet he

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing. And that was a great movie too. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think of a PC joke, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. Okay, we'll just leave it at that. Then. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it for short stuff, everybody. That's it. We Ah.

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