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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my sister in law is in love with

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Speaker 3: my husband. I want to uninvite her.

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Speaker 4: Do it? Am I the ay hole.

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Speaker 3: If I uninvite my thirty two female sister in law

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Speaker 3: thirty female, I'll call her Tina from my baby shower

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Speaker 3: because I think she's in love with my husband.

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Speaker 4: That's a pretty reasonable reason to uninvite someone from your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. My husband, thirty three male, and

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Speaker 3: I met each other at a ski lodge nine years ago.

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Speaker 3: I was with my young daughter and a female friend

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Speaker 3: and her child. My husband was with his two brothers

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Speaker 3: and three sisters and a few friends. There was a

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Speaker 3: singing competition and both of us were set up by

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Speaker 3: our friends to enter it, and the sparks flew during

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Speaker 3: our duet and the.

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Speaker 4: Rest is history. Dude, that high school musical.

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Speaker 3: to the our slush Okay, story time separated it. So

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Speaker 3: back to our first meeting. This was the first time

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Speaker 3: that I caught onto my sister in law's disturbing behavior.

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Speaker 3: After the scene competition, he and I went to the

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Speaker 3: cafe to chat. His middle sister, Tina, who was adopted

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Speaker 3: at birth, came storming up to us and demanded that

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Speaker 3: me and whined When he shut her down, She ran

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Speaker 3: we bought a house together. We had a housewarming and

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Speaker 3: invited family and close friends. Tina showed up in a

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Speaker 3: Schmechshi club outfit. She ignored me the entire time and

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Speaker 3: hung all over my husband, who was my boyfriend at

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Speaker 3: the time. She kept recalling tales of them when they

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Speaker 3: him on the sheek, hug him, and touched his arm

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Speaker 3: when laughing. He was visibly uncomfortable, so I stepped in.

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Speaker 3: At first, I just thought that she had a crush

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Speaker 3: friends said that she thought Tina was weird for talking

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Speaker 4: Uh oh, and now all of a sudden, he's in love.

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Speaker 3: What It's only bizarre to me because she's biracial, So

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Speaker 3: I don't know why this would bother her unless she

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. I was supposed to be the woman

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Speaker 4: of Colin that he did. That's Chris sister, you freak. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Then things go south at the end of the night

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Speaker 4: She started crying and ran into the restroom. Dude. If

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Speaker 4: Be a little freak.

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Speaker 3: I know, like, you're adopted, so it's not blood. But

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Speaker 4: That's even more so, you freak.

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Speaker 3: Their dad went to check on her and then drove

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Speaker 3: never had healthy relationships. After that tantrum, she skipped our wedding,

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Speaker 3: She texted my husband paragraphs at three am, telling him

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Speaker 3: She asked him if he was happy with his life

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Speaker 4: Uh, because this is gross behavior. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He admits her behavior since then has always been weird

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Speaker 3: wanting to uninvite her to the baby shower? An edit

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Speaker 3: for those of you wondering if anything intimate ever happened

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Speaker 4: He has a total of three adopted siblings, two female

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Speaker 3: He says that he sees them as blood related siblings because.

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Speaker 4: The three of them were adopted at birth.

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Speaker 3: He's the second youngest, and they're all within one to

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Speaker 3: He's not opposed to on inviting her, but he does

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Speaker 3: so I keep seeing something about high school musical. Nice,

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Speaker 3: it's very much, unfortunately, my life right now. My husband

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Speaker 3: He didn't sound good on the phone, but he wouldn't

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Speaker 4: But let's dissect all this. Oh, I don't have her over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're definitely not the a hole for

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Speaker 3: Like even if it wasn't weird, like you know, sibling

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Speaker 4: And they're in love with my husband to stop that.

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Speaker 4: Stop that. Yeah, No, I think talk to the parents,

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Speaker 3: This will probably be my last update since my husband

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Speaker 3: I tried my best to keep the most important information

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Speaker 3: On read, she started calling and sending a slew of

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Speaker 3: basically Tina being Tina. He didn't run it by me,

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there is a little bit left, But

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Speaker 4: Be for we wrap this up. I think this woman

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Speaker 4: have the money to hire people and had no choice

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00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 4: but to do the work ourselves. We were laying carpet

439
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 4: and laminet, amongst other jobs, and only had two weeks

440
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 4: to finish the work. My family were amazing and had

441
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 4: the baby a lot during this time. My partner's family

442
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 4: did not help his uncle to build. Taught us the

443
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 4: skills we needed in an evening, but that was all

444
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 4: the help we received. My mother in law had the

445
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 4: baby twice the first week, but only for a few hours.

446
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 4: We weren't making much progress. Then the second week came

447
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 4: and she said she'd only have her from two o'clock

448
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 4: onwards and only for an hour or so. She does

449
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 4: not work and could have helped more. I challenged this

450
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 4: and said it was only two or three more days,

451
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 4: as my family was doing the rest. She then said

452
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 4: that it was affecting her daughter, who is the most selfish,

453
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 4: entitled girl I've ever met, and that she would always

454
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 4: come first, even over a granddaughter's safety. Girl, just keep

455
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 4: them most safe, Yeah, keep him most safe. I raised

456
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 4: my voice atter and said, oh, f off with that.

457
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 4: It's for two days. I'm not asking you to change

458
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 4: your alternative lifestyle. She knew I was referring to her

459
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 4: eleven am wake ups and late nights. She became very

460
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 4: personal about my parenting and I asked her to leave.

461
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 4: Admittedly I should not have sworn, but we were under

462
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 4: so much pressure and we had no choice but to

463
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 4: ask her anyhow. And in response to this, at ten

464
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 4: thirty that evening, whilst my baby was in bed, her

465
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 4: horrible husband started smashing down our glass front door, trying

466
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 4: to get to me. What please facin police spring ring.

467
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. We had to let him in to

468
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: avoid a hefty bill if the glass broke. He started screaming,

469
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 4: calling me names, asking who I thought I was, and

470
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 4: making threats. I then threatened to call the police if

471
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 4: he didn't leave. That evening, my partner received a message

472
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: from his mom saying that she would support him and

473
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 4: being a single parent, and listed all the reasons he

474
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 4: should leave me. He also received messages from other family

475
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 4: members saying something similar. He needs to cut them off

476
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 4: or limit contact in a big way, because no, no, no,

477
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 4: you should not be subjected to this behavior.

478
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, that's like your safety is now invall.

479
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. I went to my mom's and a few days

480
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 4: later I had to drop the baby off to continue

481
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 4: with renovations. Her partner took one look at me again

482
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 4: on the shared lawn and started in front of his

483
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 4: wife's ninety six year old grandmother. I ignored him and went

484
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: to my flat with my partner. Mother in law followed.

485
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 4: She apologized, saying her partner shouldn't have done y dead,

486
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: but followed on with how I brought it on myself. Girl,

487
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: that's a bad apology. We move flats and things improved.

488
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 4: My partner and I focused on our independent lives together.

489
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 4: The in laws were in the picture, but we put

490
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: them on the back burner. But unfortunately, tragedy struck just

491
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: after my daughter's first birthday. Uh oh, I developed a

492
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: neurological condition overnight which causes me to have seizures throughout

493
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 4: the day. It affects my mobility. I need crutches of

494
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 4: time and have huge amounts of unexplained pain and a

495
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 4: chronic fatigue due to the seizures and medications. Oh my god, gosh,

496
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 4: these are just a few of the symptoms. My partner

497
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: had to give up work to look after me. Given

498
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 4: the situation. Mother in law agreed to have the baby

499
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: one afternoon a week to give me and my partner

500
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: a break. This lasted a few weeks before she canceled

501
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 4: most days because of other commitments she made for her daughter.

502
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 4: She also used to have the baby one night a

503
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 4: month so me and Hobby could see friends. This support

504
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 4: all stopped when she got a puppy. A girl can

505
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: hardly take care of her daughter. Yeah, you don't need

506
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: a puppy. Oh my gosh, take care of these children,

507
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 4: and she's just gonna be like, oh, you would never understand.

508
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: Being a dog mom is so difficult, so hard. She's

509
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 4: like a little human mom. That's a bit more. I

510
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: would say seven months we went without a break because

511
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: she wasn't coping with the stress of having the dog.

512
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: Why did you get the dog? You already have a kid.

513
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: Take care of your kid. This could have been so

514
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: easily to take care of your grandkid. But what's going on.

515
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: My family did what they could, but my mom developed

516
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: her own health conditions during this time and is also

517
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: a full time care for my severely special needs, double

518
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: incontinent sister, so naturally support was limited. Yes, I was

519
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: resentful that my daughter's needs were not being met. At

520
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 4: the time, I couldn't meet them because of my health,

521
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: and the person who could meet them best wouldn't because

522
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: of a dog. I occasionally told my partner of my

523
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 4: frustrations with his family, and we had more than a

524
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: few arguments about them. So he's not even like on

525
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 4: your side. Yeah, that's a huge problem, the fact that

526
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 4: he's not even on your side. Absolutely. However, I tried

527
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: not to let them steal my peace, and we got

528
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: on with our lives to the best of all our ability,

529
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: until my little one was taken to hospital. That is,

530
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: my little one is severely asthmatic. She has been in

531
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 4: and out of hospital for her breathing a lot since

532
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 4: she was a baby. However, when she was eighteen months old,

533
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: she caught a chest infection. I booked her an emergency

534
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: doctor's appointment because she really could not breathe. At the appointment,

535
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: the doctor took one look at her and advised we

536
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: go immediately to the ANNIE. I couldn't call my partner

537
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: as it was his first official day of teachers training

538
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: and if he did not attend that day and the next,

539
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be able to fully enroll in his course.

540
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: My mom could not take me as she had my

541
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: poorly autistic nephew from my other sister at hers so

542
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 4: my sister could work. I can't try because of my seizures,

543
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 4: and taxis don't really operate in my area because it's

544
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 4: so rural and would have cost me over one hundred pounds,

545
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 4: which I literally did not have. So I called my

546
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: mother in law. I explained that I needed a lift

547
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: and the situation to what she said, now, I'm not

548
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: taking you. I haven't sleappt and hung up. It was

549
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: so rude. Oh my gosh, if she couldn't take me

550
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: fair enough, but at least help me find a solution.

551
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: But nothing, not even appropriate concern was offered. My mom

552
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 4: left my nephew for me at home as my brother

553
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: in law was going to leave work to go and

554
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: collect him. He received disciplinary for this, and she took

555
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: me to the hospital. He was worse than we expected.

556
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: Little one was going to be staying overnight at the minimum.

557
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: That night my child crashed. A team came in at

558
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 4: two am and put her on further oxygen. She also

559
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: had a canister in her hand so that emergency antibiotics

560
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: could be administered. She was too young to understand and

561
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: was scared. She constantly tried ripping her canister out and

562
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: was asking for mummy, Daddy. My mom and her nan

563
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: distress made my condition worse, and I was desperately trying

564
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 4: to hide seizures from the staff. I begged my mother

565
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 4: in law to come and support, as my mom had

566
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: already been in for twelve hours and Daddy couldn't come.

567
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 4: I needed him to pursue his training, so I didn't

568
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: tell him the full details her crash because I knew

569
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: he would throw his opportunity to teach to be with us.

570
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: Mother in law refuse, saying her child had a cold. Ugh,

571
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: the thing is pausing because lots of thoughts. Yeah, a

572
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: lot just happened. You know, you can't rely on your

573
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: mother in law. You've known kind of this whole time.

574
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 4: I think we need to stop reaching out to mother

575
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: in law and expecting her to do something different. Yeah,

576
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: you know, like she's more focused on her kid. Makes

577
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: sense in a way. Obviously, she's terrible for like going

578
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: back on her word every time after she says that

579
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 4: she'd help out, not providing any of that help, being

580
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: you know, hostile.

581
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but like you know that, Yeah, I know,

582
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: like it sucks that as a family member she's still

583
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: doing this and like this is literally her grandchild.

584
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree. It's like, don't expect the pencil

585
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 4: to be a gold bar.

586
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 3: But I guess it depends too, because like for this,

587
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: like when she asked to take them to the hospital,

588
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: that was like a dire situation and like no one

589
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: else could.

590
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, she had her mom living next door, her partner

591
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 4: at home, and her brother and his wife living opposite.

592
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 4: Someone could have stayed and looked after the daughter. I

593
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: had no one. I was so upset after seven months

594
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: of no support, a refusal to take me to A

595
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: and E, and now this. I ended up messaging her

596
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 4: saying that she was an actress, that she may talk

597
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: the love talk, but knows nothing about it and has

598
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: shown none through her actions. I called her self absorbed

599
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 4: and said she should stop having opinions on my relationship

600
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: and I have a closer look at her own. My

601
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: partner was furious at me for the message and nearly

602
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: left me, but we were able to work it through

603
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: what is going on with your relationship? Yeah, my daughter

604
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: was meant to start nursery three mornings a week the

605
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: week after because of my health. This was vital for

606
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: me to function and for my daughter to have a

607
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: quality of life. Mother in law was meant to do

608
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: one pick up a week. Yeah, why are we including

609
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: her in anything? Yeah. After the argument, she pulled out

610
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 4: of the lift, saying she will never give us regular

611
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: help because she's scared of thes. I would give her

612
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 4: if she couldn't. I'm not like that. She went on

613
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: to say she will not put herself out so I

614
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: could have a break, and that children should not be

615
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 4: a nursery. I refuse to have anything to do with

616
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 4: her after this, and was very reluctant to let my

617
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 4: little one see her either. I became banned from all

618
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: family events and taken off every family group chat. I

619
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: eventually caved and let my daughter see your grandmother because

620
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: my partner threatened to leave me. Dude, what if your

621
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: partner's threatened to leave you over his just terrible mother. Yeah,

622
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: maybe we ought to rethink this relationship. Yeah, maybe we

623
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: need to let him. Also, why does he keep threatening

624
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: to leave you? Yeah, like you're just not doing anything wrong.

625
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: They're putting all of the blame on you seeing that

626
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: you're going to do them when it seems like it's

627
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: the other way around. Yep.

628
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: My partner grew up with her as a single mother

629
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: and was very protective over her and did not believe

630
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 4: any maliciousness had taken place. He now sees the truth.

631
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: Oh switch up. Oh okay, and we've never been stronger. Okay. However,

632
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: he still has a relationship with his mom. After a

633
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: few months, my mother in law made it on the

634
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: news for a song she wrote about a particular situation.

635
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: I can't give any more information to protect everyone's Oh

636
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: my god, who is this famous woman? She's some British lady.

637
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: What I wanted to see the success of the video,

638
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: so went on YouTube, where I found a song posted

639
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: three days prior about me. In the song, she went

640
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: on about how her son has pushed her away, how

641
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: he's only staying with me to keep his baby safe,

642
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: how I've ruined his dreams, how I take him for granted.

643
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: He was my care at the beginning, and to do

644
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: more abound the house and now this is not what

645
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: you want f him. I was so upset, and so

646
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: was my partner. Everyone we mutually knew had seen the song.

647
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: We asked her to take it down, but she wouldn't.

648
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: It took my partner three weeks of arguments and a

649
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: visit round to get the song down. But you can

650
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: always visit our podcast if you go to Spotify, Apple Podcast,

651
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: or iHeartRadio to listen to full episodes of stories just

652
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: like this. Just search up. Okay, storytime and there is

653
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: a little bit left to this story. Final thoughts.

654
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: I just really want to know who this woman is,

655
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: and I want to listen to this song.

656
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: And I want to know right now. Someone find it out.

657
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: So I bet, I bet you could find it out,

658
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: like British singer fifties wrote a song about her son

659
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: or whatever. Yeah, I'm sure there's a way to figure

660
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: out marry to an old drummer. Yeah, there you go.

661
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: Please, that's oh boy. But yeah, this woman is wild.

662
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: I wish so badly for her to be exposed. Yes,

663
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: good riddance. I'm glad that the partner is finally understanding

664
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: you know how toxic the mom is. Yeah, he still

665
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: has a relationship, but that's kind of understandable. It's hard

666
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: to just like go to a contact all the sudden,

667
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: but still good that he knows to defend you now.

668
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: But there is a little bit left so let's hit it.

669
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: I later found out there was an alternative reason for

670
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: my partner's visit, a six page letter of all the

671
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: things we have put her and her partner through, and

672
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: how much her partner is a disappointment to her, and

673
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: how his passed away granddad would be ashamed of him.

674
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: There is no consideration of our circumstances. Only she and

675
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 4: her imaginary problems existed. I was so angry, but it

676
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: was for my partner to work it through with his mom.

677
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 4: I was just relieved of that song taken off. Five

678
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: months of past since the letter, and nothing has changed.

679
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: My partner now keeps his family at arm's length, but

680
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: goes to family events I'm not welcome att. I know

681
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: people on here will ask me why I stay with

682
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: my partner who allows me to get treated like this,

683
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: and at times I have wondered this myself. The conclusion

684
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: I've come to is that on the day to day,

685
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: me and my partner are very, very happy. He's a

686
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: fantastic father, my best friend, and there is so much

687
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: love and laughter in the house. In law's aside, I

688
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: feel very fortunate in life, despite the illness. I don't

689
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: know how to handle the in laws moving forward and

690
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: would love some advice on how to best handle the situation.

691
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: And that is the end of that story.

692
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,400
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693
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320
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694
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: I accidentally made two couples separate when I revealed sensitive information.

695
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: Oh oopsie, uh okay.

696
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm the ale in this situation, but

697
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: it's literally about half an half with the people I

698
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: know in real life that know the situation. I want

699
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: to see other perspectives on this from people who have

700
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: no attachment to it. By the way, this comes from

701
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: Snow Confections four one eight nine and if you want

702
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: to spit your own stories, go to the r slash

703
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: Okay storytime separate it. So this past weekend, I went

704
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: to a UFC fight watch party with this girl I've

705
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: been talking to for a couple of weeks. Let's call

706
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: her Pee's call her Penny.

707
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Penny.

708
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: We went to high school together ten years ago, but

709
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: didn't really talk that much during that time, but Penny

710
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: and I had.

711
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: Mutual friends like Shaquille O'Neal. Sorry, I was Penny hardaway

712
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: had I had to put it in there, Thank you, Riley.

713
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: We got reacquainted a couple of weeks ago and have

714
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: hung out a few times since. Well, like I had

715
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: stated before, back in high school, we had a lot

716
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: of mutual friends, and a lot of those friends Penny

717
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: still is pretty close to till this day, and the

718
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: vast majority of them I haven't spoken to in about

719
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: a decade, so pretty much since high school. After I graduated,

720
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: I left the state to play college football, and I

721
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: didn't really come back home that often when I was

722
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: in college, so I only kept in touch with my

723
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: very close group of friends from back home. So there's

724
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: a lot of people who I was pretty good friends

725
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: with in high school, still have on social media, still

726
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 4: wish the best for them, but have not seen and

727
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: or spoken to in about a decade. I say that

728
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: to say. Penny had asked me if I could come

729
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: with her to the watch party the day before the party.

730
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: I like to watch fights with my friends and or family,

731
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: so I was going to say no, especially since she

732
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: said the host house belonged to one of her friends

733
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: who I didn't know. But then she told me that

734
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: that friend was the wife of the guy I was

735
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: friends with in high school and hadn't seen in a

736
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: long time. Okay, she said, she let them know that

737
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: we had been seeing each other, and they told her

738
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: that she'd better bring me eooooooooo. Then she names other

739
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: people who would be going, lot of names of people

740
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: I had and seen since high school and used to

741
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: be pretty cool with, so that convinced me to go.

742
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: I'm usually pretty introverted in houses. I don't know, but

743
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: when we showed up to the house, I saw a

744
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: lot of people I knew, so since I was familiar

745
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 4: with a lot of them, that introverted feeling immediately went away,

746
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: and I felt really comfortable and really enjoyed watching the

747
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 4: fight with them, drinking and catching up that I was

748
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 4: going really well. I was having fun. Penny is having fun.

749
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: All vibes are good until the incident.

750
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, not the incident.

751
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: I was inside the house having a conversation.

752
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: That's where the call is coming from.

753
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: Then I noticed Penny was outside amongst a group of

754
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: people out there, sitting and talking, so I decided to

755
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: go join. I walk out there and grab a chair. Okay,

756
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: they are in the middle of a conversation, but I'm

757
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: not even paying attention to what they're saying. I'm just

758
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: paying attention to grab in the chair and placing it

759
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: next to Penny so I can sit. There's about fifteen

760
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: people in the circle. I only knew about it half

761
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: of the people in the group. As I'm about to

762
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: sit down, the first words that I actually hear in

763
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: this conversation with someone saying something like, don't worry, most

764
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: male spicy dancers are homo. Uh uh uh?

765
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: Did you whatever you do, don't leave it there.

766
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: I did not know any of the context of the conversation.

767
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well you know enough to know about

768
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: some frisky individuals.

769
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: But what I ji on the I instantly responded with

770
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 4: something like, no, they're not. They'd be having a spicy

771
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: sleep with so many of the girls. He walks into

772
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: the conversation, here's most of the spicy dancers are gay,

773
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: and goes, no, they're not. After saying that, I instantly

774
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: went into why I know this. I have an older

775
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 4: brother who is five years older. He has a best

776
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 4: friend who was a really muscular dude who did male

777
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: stripping for a little after they graduated high school. Let's

778
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: call him M and was a pretty popular male spicy dancer.

779
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: From what I heard, I know he was once featured

780
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: in a pretty popular magazine, Playgirl.

781
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: It was like it was pretty popular.

782
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 4: R I yess, he was well known in my city

783
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: even before the stripping. Em went to my high school too,

784
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 4: but before I went there, and I didn't think anyone

785
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: there would know who he is besides a guy that

786
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: was there who I was close to in high school,

787
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 4: let's call him X. X came over to my house

788
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: a lot back in high school and he met Marty

789
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: a couple of times. Well, Marty did a lot of

790
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: bachelorette parties and he would always tell me about it,

791
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: and sometimes X when he was there. Marty often said

792
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 4: that if he ever got married, his girl would never

793
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: be allowed male spicy dancers at her bachelorette party. Marty

794
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: said that at least eighty five percent of the parties

795
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 4: he does, the bride to beat cheats, often with multiple men.

796
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: Well, that sounds like the parties you're throwing are the

797
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: wrong hind.

798
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: Marty said it was really that the bride to be

799
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 4: didn't cheat to at least some degree, and he had

800
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: proof of these claims with pictures videos on his phone

801
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: and would not hesitate to show us. He said because

802
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: of that he would never allow it because he knows

803
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: how it goes. I explained all of this to the

804
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: group and even had X come outside to confirm that

805
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: that's what Marty told us and showed us proof. After

806
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: I finished talking, it was quiet for a moment, and

807
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: about three people walked off, none of which I knew personally,

808
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: and it suddenly felt awkward. I didn't understand. Then Penny

809
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: started telling me that prior to me sitting down, they

810
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: were trying to make one of the guys in the

811
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: circle feel better. Let's call the guy Hank Ooh.

812
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: No, not Hank. He totally did not read the room.

813
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 4: No.

814
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 5: No, his wife just had a stripper at or bachelorette party.

815
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 5: And he's like, yeah, she didn't do anything, right, Guys,

816
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 5: they're like, no, no, of course not. Yeah, they definitely

817
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 5: did something for sure.

818
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what you guys are talking talking about,

819
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: but they did something, which I think is the right

820
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 4: thing to say in this situation.

821
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the true needs to know if that is

822
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: the truth.

823
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't be like, no, buddy, he was just gay.

824
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: He'd be like a new Wifetime Sorry, yep, Wifetime movie.

825
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 4: Hank was going to get married the next month, him

826
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: and if fiance were going to do their bachelor and

827
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: bachelorette parties a week apart. Hank's fiance was currently on

828
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 4: her bachelorette weekend in another city, and Hank was aware

829
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: that they were going to have male, spicy dancers come

830
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: to their airbnb. At some point, Hank had told him

831
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: that initially he didn't care and wanted her to enjoy it,

832
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 4: but had started becoming insecure about it. Well, okay, I don't.

833
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't think that it's fair to say, like every

834
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: time you have spicy dancers over those cheating going on.

835
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 4: I do think that if you haven't told your partner

836
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: that you were going to have spicy dancers, that's not cool.

837
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 4: That's violating trust in your relationship. It does seem like

838
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: Hank knew about it, so oh so the group was

839
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: in the middle of trying to comfort him. Prior to

840
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: me sitting down, I was not aware of any of

841
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: this until after. I felt a little bad, but I

842
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: also felt like I didn't tell a lie. Everything I

843
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: said was from a direct source that lived it. But

844
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: I do get I shouldn't have said it right there,

845
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: and I most likely wouldn't have if I knew the

846
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: context of the conversation prior to sitting down. Hank was

847
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: one of the three people who left the group after

848
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: I spoke about what Marty had told me an X.

849
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 4: The other two people that walked off, I didn't know them.

850
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: It was a couple and they are older than me. Well,

851
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 4: turns out they also attended my high school and are

852
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: about six years older. And I've been together since high

853
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: school and got married shortly after both of them knew

854
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: who Marty was. Turns out the girl had a bachelorette

855
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: party with male spicy dancers coming to a house for

856
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: and Marty was one of them. Marty certainly does she

857
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: gets around man and her Man knew that he was

858
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 4: one of the spicy dancers and at the time found

859
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: it funny because they didn't think one of the spicy

860
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: dancers would be someone they went to school with. Apparently,

861
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: at the time they both laughed about it, and the

862
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: girl claimed she didn't get a dance from him because

863
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: when he tried, she couldn't stop laughing. Well after hearing

864
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: what I said, apparently the dude got angry, especially since

865
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: I said Marty often provided proof to those claims and

866
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 4: had showed me an ex so that couple walked off

867
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: and started arguing. Inside I could see that they were

868
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: arguing through the glass door, but we didn't know it

869
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: was because of what I said initially, But after I

870
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 4: found out, I thought it would be better for me

871
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: to leave, and it was already getting late, so me

872
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: and Penny left. She was mad at me and told

873
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: me I shouldn't have settle that. After that night, I

874
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 4: asked about twelve of the people that were there individually

875
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: if they thought I was the a hole in this situation.

876
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: I asked, both men and women. It's literally split in half.

877
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: Some say yes, others say no. And some of the

878
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: people who I didn't know there are pretty angry at me,

879
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: including all three that walked off.

880
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: It'bsurd.

881
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: Opie literally didn't know what the conversation was.

882
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: Did Ope cheat on anybody?

883
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 4: No?

884
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Did OPI maybe put themselves in a position to cheat

885
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: on anybody?

886
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: No? No, this is what op put his foot in

887
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: his mouth.

888
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: That's literally it.

889
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: If Op was speaking from the intent of like, ooh, yeah.

890
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 4: I can't wait to stir up some juicy drama.

891
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: Literally, yeah, all right, you're kind of friend. That's kind

892
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: of a jerk thing to do what happens and you

893
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: just telling like objectively, like what could be the truth

894
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: leads to two people breaking up.

895
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: That's not like you're you're a bad guy.

896
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: No, And to make matters worse. I spoke to Marty

897
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: about what happened. I hadn't talked to him in a

898
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: long time. He lives outside of the state, but I

899
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: have him on social media. I told him a story,

900
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 4: knowing he would find it funny. After I told Marty,

901
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: he said he knew who the woman was. He said

902
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: he only did one bachelorette party for someone he went

903
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: to high school with. He proceeds to say her name

904
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: correctly and describe her correctly, and then gives me details

905
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: about that party. She clearly lied to her husband and

906
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: definitely contributed to the eighty five percent stat. He even

907
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: said he might still have the video of that night

908
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: on an old phone. But I'm not gonna say anything

909
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: about it anymore. I do not want to get involved.

910
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 4: I don't know either of them and have no obligation

911
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: to interfere in that relationship at all, especially more than

912
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: I have. So am I the ale in this situation.

913
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: I would if y'all have handled this and edit. The

914
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: reason I said two relationships is because apparently h was

915
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: really impacted with what I said and also apparently saw

916
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: and heard some suspicious things about the trip. What he

917
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: saw or heard I do not know. Penny was the

918
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: one telling me this and she didn't know either, And

919
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: due to this, the wedding might be off. Some of

920
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: them think I might be paranoid and to blame for this.

921
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 4: There is an update.

922
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: Tell the truth is not You're not the ahle r.

923
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: You're not the ale.

924
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 5: Some people made actions happen, and you spoke truthfully from

925
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: your experience.

926
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you didn't even do it intentionally. You didn't

927
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 4: know what they were talking about.

928
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: It just makes no sense for you to be blamed.

929
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is an update. Not gonna lie. I was

930
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 4: not planning on doing an update to this story where

931
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: was not really looking to tell a story, just wanted

932
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: other perspectives. Well, I actually have an update on both

933
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: of these couples. Both are bad, but I'll start with

934
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: the lighter one. First. Hank did end up calling off

935
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: the wedding, so apparently the stuff I said, but the

936
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: male spicy dancers did really mess with his head. And

937
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 4: made him start digging for stuff. I guess he went

938
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: through his girl's phone without our knowing when she got

939
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: back from her weekend, which apparently prior to this is

940
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: something he has never done. His girl had a second

941
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: Snapchat account. Yikes. The fact that she had a first

942
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: Snapchat account suspicious. Yike's on bikes that he didn't know about.

943
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: I guess she didn't log out of it before Hank

944
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 4: went through it branly. The only chat on it was

945
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: a group chat with her friends. But on that snap

946
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 4: she had a bunch of older spicy sleep tape saved,

947
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 4: and she had a bunch of videos saved in the

948
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 4: group chat from their weekend, and the video showed her

949
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: not only hooking up with the male Spicy dancer, but

950
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 4: also had her hooking up with at least two other

951
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: men during bachelorette party weekend.

952
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: Group chat full of absolute harlests.

953
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: Yikes. Apparently he also was able to read chats where

954
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: she said something along the lines of her feeling bad

955
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: about how crazy she went that weekend, but she's glad

956
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: she got to get her last urges out and it's

957
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: now ready to settle into married life. You were in a.

958
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: Relationship troll up, I dub thee trn up.

959
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 4: You were in a relationship, he called off, the wedding

960
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: and all that. So in this case, I'm glad dude

961
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: heard what I said because I saved him. Yeah, good

962
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: on you, Opie. You can literally go back to Penny

963
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, so I was freaking right? Did

964
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: you want him to marry a person who cheated on

965
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 4: him multiple times?

966
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: How is this your fault that she she cheated on that?

967
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: You just made him think hard enough to figure out

968
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: that his wife was gonna was cheating on him, So

969
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: he left.

970
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: His girl, went to another city, and really he got

971
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: her crap off. So good thing he got that before

972
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 4: making it official. Now to the married couple. I didn't

973
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 4: name them last time, but I will here just to

974
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: tell the story better. I know some of y'all didn't

975
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: like the letters for names, so I'll name them John

976
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 4: and Amy, not the real name, so that I from

977
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: the original post where I told the story. I know

978
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: some said that I should have read the room and

979
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: all that. Not only was it hard because it was

980
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: dark out and I had been drinking, but I had

981
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 4: also had people there asking questions and giving input in

982
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: the middle of telling it, so I didn't get any

983
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: indication about me doing too much at the time. So

984
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: John was one of the people who asked me a

985
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 4: couple of questions. So John and Amy were lapped up

986
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: when they were sitting out there, Amy sitting on John.

987
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: Of course.

988
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: Apparently, when I started going into describing Marty in the

989
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: middle of the story and I said his real life name,

990
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: John felt Amy start to tense up and feel uncomfortable.

991
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: Marty's real name is pretty unique in America, at least

992
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone else with that name, so when

993
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: I said it, it was very clear who I was

994
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: talking about. And like I said, they went to high

995
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: school with him and both knew who he was, which

996
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 4: I knew nothing of that at that point, and John

997
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: knew Amy had Marty as a male spicy dancer at

998
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: her party. Well, I guess the more detailed then graphic

999
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: I got about what Marty told me in terms of

1000
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: the spicy related acts, how rare it was that it

1001
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 4: didn't happen, and that he often recorded everything. The more

1002
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: uncomfortable John felt Amy getting that at John get really suspicious,

1003
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: and that's where he asked me a couple of questions

1004
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 4: in the middle of my story. I forgot what he asked,

1005
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 4: but it was nothing crazy. I think one of them

1006
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: was did Marty send me the videos or just show

1007
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 4: me on his phone? Which he only showed me on

1008
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 4: his phone. I'm guessing. Amy continued to get more uncomfortable,

1009
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: and he felt it and got really suspicious, and that's where.

1010
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: He walked off.

1011
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: Scy theory.

1012
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 5: Oh oh, Opium, Marty go back, right, they go back

1013
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 5: like they've been working together or like, don't like, you know,

1014
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: they went to school together. They went to school together,

1015
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: but did they did they dance together or anything like that.

1016
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 5: I think someone knew about the dancer and that Opie

1017
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: was the dancer's friend, thus hired that person because they

1018
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 5: knew that they could get information, and this some sort

1019
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 5: of setup.

1020
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: It's all some long con honestly.

1021
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: Like, how is that coincidental? Unless they're all kind of

1022
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 5: like local.

1023
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: They all, yeah, I think they are.

1024
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: It could be a small town where everyone cheat.

1025
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: Apparently, well he said eighty five people cheat.

1026
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: They all went to high school, Okay.

1027
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: And these are people that Opie hasn't even seen in

1028
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: like years.

1029
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. So now fast forward to this past week. This

1030
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: is how I heard it played out. I don't know

1031
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: John or Amy. I know John's younger brother, but I

1032
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: haven't spoken to him since the day. I asked him

1033
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: if I was an ale for telling the story to them,

1034
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 4: which he said I wasn't. Penny talks to John's brother,

1035
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: but also is close with that group of friends, that

1036
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: is her close friends. I got this infro from Penny,

1037
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: which is in that was regurgitated with in the group.

1038
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure on the accuracy of how it

1039
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 4: all played out, but I would guess it's pretty high.

1040
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 4: But the actual incident itself did happen one hundred percent,

1041
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: I know because it's documented now. John and Amy argued

1042
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 4: inside the house, and I'm guessing all the way home,

1043
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: Amy assured John that nothing happened with Marty or any

1044
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: of the other male spicy dancers there. She also stayed

1045
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: with the story that she only got a partial lap

1046
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 4: dance from Marty.

1047
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: You just kind of hovered, Yeah, he was just he

1048
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: was just in the general vicinity.

1049
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: But had to stop because she couldn't stop laughing. Apparently

1050
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: John didn't fully buy it and came up with a

1051
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 4: plan to make her admit it. Earlier this week, John

1052
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: confronted Amy about it again, but this time stated that

1053
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: he knew the facts already so for her to come

1054
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: clean and be honest with them. John told Amy that

1055
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 4: he had been in contact with me and I also

1056
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: put him in contact with Marty, and from that he

1057
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: knew the entire story and that Mark Marty still had

1058
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: the evidence. I can confirm that neither me nor Marty

1059
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: have spoken to him. I haven't spoken to him since

1060
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: that night. Marty says he's never spoken to dude and

1061
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: he's life. So I guess Amy felt like she was

1062
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: caught and admitted everything. She told John that she eft

1063
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: Marty that night.

1064
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: Marty, Dude stop, So Marty Marty, Marty really knows firsthand.

1065
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: She told John that she eft Marty that night. This

1066
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: made John snap. I don't know why John said he

1067
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 4: had spoken to me. Maybe he knew that would work

1068
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: and get her to admit it. As far as I know,

1069
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: no one has seen this red a post from that night.

1070
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 4: By the way, you can see full episodes of stories

1071
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: just like this on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio.

1072
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: Yes, you can see them with your tires, you can

1073
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: see them with the eyes of the auditory.

1074
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: But you can see the episodes. You can, and then

1075
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: you can click on them and then you can listen

1076
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 4: to them.

1077
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: Oh, well, I guess there are certain ones where you

1078
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: can see it.

1079
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 4: You can see all of them.

1080
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: No, some of it's just audio, but.

1081
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: You can see the episode. That's how you click on it.

1082
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh that is true, right, Okay, you can see it.

1083
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: That is you know what color me wrong about that

1084
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: color wrong?

1085
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: But there is a little bit more to this story.

1086
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: Do you have any final.

1087
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: Go back to the quiet solitude of not interacting with

1088
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: these people?

1089
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: Yep, I'd be like, kay, Penny, can we not be

1090
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: around those rounds?

1091
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Also, you should definitely like lean into being Hank's new

1092
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: best friend.

1093
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you really did him as solid.

1094
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you exposed his fiance's infidelity. I'm pretty sure he

1095
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: would be like, yeah, man, I owe you one.

1096
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 4: You better. You better. But there's a little bit left

1097
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 4: do this story. Penny knows about it now, but I

1098
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: showed her after the fact when she was telling me

1099
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 4: about all this that I'm posting. She thinks that John

1100
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: might have seen the post and knew she did it,

1101
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 4: so came up with a way to make her admit it.

1102
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: But Penny says that she's never used Reddit and has

1103
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 4: never heard any of the people and that friend group

1104
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: talk about using Reddit. But she also doesn't really know

1105
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: John and Amy. So I guess it's possible that John

1106
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: saw my original post. I'm not sure, but Penny said

1107
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: she's not going to tell anyone about the post. So yeah,

1108
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 4: there's the updates. I didn't feel like an a hole before,

1109
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 4: but now I really do.

1110
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: Why Why neurodivergence going on there?

1111
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but I just don't know

1112
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: why you're feeling bad. I didn't want to lead to

1113
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 4: anyone getting beat, getting hospitalized, and getting arrested. You literally

1114
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 4: told a story without any context.

1115
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, dude.

1116
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: I really do feel like crap about the whole situation now.

1117
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: I doubt I'll update this again. I don't see what

1118
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 4: else would even have to be known. Now I have

1119
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: to deal with this crap in my conscious and psyche edit.

1120
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: I keep seeing people say that they've been married for

1121
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: six years. I was saying that they were both six

1122
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: years older than me. I'm almost thirty, they are in

1123
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: their mid to late thirties. I believe they've been married

1124
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 4: for about fourteen to fifteen years and folks, that's the

1125
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: end of that story. Stop feeling bad, Opie. You told

1126
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 4: them about some statistics and then they've figured it out

1127
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: from there.

1128
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the real statistic was Marty.

1129
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1130
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get

1131
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute

1132
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: break from as for more sponsors.

1133
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: My husband forgave me after I cheated on him. Now

1134
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: he wants the details.

1135
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: Do you really want them?

1136
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: I want to preface my story by telling you all

1137
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: that I have called myself all the dirty names that

1138
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: you're all probably thinking of me. I rightfully deserve it.

1139
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: I did something unthinkable and horrendous. Despite the circumstances regarding

1140
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: the situation, I still have no excuses for my actions.

1141
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: I betrayed the man I love, and I will never

1142
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: forgive myself for doing so. By the way, this comes

1143
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: from user Vanessa Throwaway, and if you want to submit

1144
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime

1145
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: sub bred it So. My husband and I have been

1146
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: married for three years, together for five. He is the

1147
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: perfect man, and I knew that back when we started

1148
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: to go out. He's smart, very good looking, loving and sweet.

1149
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: He seems almost too perfect at times, and that, unfortunately

1150
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: he has bothered me in many ways. Remember fellas, it's

1151
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: icky to be too perfect. Yeah, I sometimes think that

1152
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: I may not be good enough for him, despite my

1153
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: healthy level of confidence and self esteem. And you can

1154
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: use my infidelity to confirm that. I guess women tend

1155
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: to hit on him a lot and flirt knowing that

1156
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: he is married, but he has never paid them the

1157
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: slightest attention, and I know people who have vouched for that.

1158
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: I love him and trust him with all my heart,

1159
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: but sometimes moments like that will make me feel uneasy,

1160
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: knowing there's really no such thing as a perfect man

1161
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: or woman.

1162
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not really sure what we're trying to say there.

1163
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: I don't know yet. I don't have any thoughts yet.

1164
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: Game About two months ago, my husband began to work

1165
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: feverishly in and out of work. He and his corporate

1166
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: team were working really hard to close a deal with

1167
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: another huge corporation. One day, I had asked him if

1168
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: he'd like to go visit his brother and his wife

1169
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: that night, but he said that he couldn't and that

1170
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: he had to meet with some of the other guys

1171
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: over to finalize their proposal. About an hour later, I

1172
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: see his phone ringing in the kitchen and it's a

1173
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: call from someone named Janice. I let it go, and

1174
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: my heart sank then and there. I didn't know a

1175
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: Janis and he never spoke of one, so I assumed

1176
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: the very.

1177
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 4: Worst girl girl he's happened to.

1178
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: The healthy security of you.

1179
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: Were say, don't go. If we have that jump to

1180
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: conclusions when we see a woman's name on his.

1181
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: Phone, why would another woman be calling a couple of

1182
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: hours before he was supposed to go into a meeting

1183
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: with other co workers. Our kitchen is huge, so I

1184
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: went over and stood on one side and waited for

1185
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: him to come back to see his phone. He did

1186
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: come back, saw the miss call, and immediately started dialing

1187
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: a number and walked into the dining room to talk.

1188
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: All I heard was Okay, that sounds great. Yeah, it's

1189
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: at eight pm. Okay, okay, see you. Then I immediately

1190
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: confronted him and started asking him question. He got defensive

1191
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: and told me to relax, said I was overreacting. I

1192
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: just kept coming back at him and him at me

1193
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: for about fifteen minutes, when he just gave up and

1194
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: left the house.

1195
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I was so angry and heartbroken.

1196
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: I had planned on visiting a friend of mine from

1197
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: college for the weekend, but wouldn't leave until the next morning.

1198
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: I got so angry after our flight that I called

1199
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: my friend and told her i'd be driving up that night.

1200
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: My husband had come back home late at night and

1201
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: finally texted me something along the lines of where the

1202
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: f are U, Vanessa, We need to talk. I was

1203
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: already in the other city by then and had completely

1204
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 2: tuned him out that night. I texted him the next morning,

1205
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: telling him I was at my friends for the weekend

1206
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: and that's it.

1207
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 1: There was no reply.

1208
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: I had the deepest belief that he was with this

1209
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: Janis person the night before, and I was so angry

1210
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: and bitter because of it. We went to a restaurant

1211
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: that Saturday afternoon. I didn't tell my friend of the situation,

1212
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: but she could tell that I was looking to call

1213
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: my nerves.

1214
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: Wait, this is before.

1215
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so she's definitely nah. See, because I was

1216
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: gonna say if this was after the cheating, and she

1217
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 4: you know, but this is before the cheating, so she's

1218
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: very clear and the wrong and she was mm yikes. Yikes,

1219
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: Like if he literally didn't tell her anything about Janet's

1220
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 4: not cool, does not mean she can just go cheat.

1221
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 4: But I think she knows that now.

1222
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: My friend had invited a male friend of ours, who

1223
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: also went to college with us, to join us at

1224
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: the restaurant. After we were done eating, my friend said

1225
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: she was going to go home and help her husband

1226
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: prepare for the barbecue we were going to have the

1227
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: next day.

1228
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: Our friend and I stayed a while longer for drinks.

1229
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: I thought a drink or two would help me forget

1230
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: about what my husband had done or was doing.

1231
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: He knew I was married, but began to flirt with

1232
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: me regardless.

1233
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: He asked if I wanted to go to his place

1234
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: before heading back to his friends, so he could show

1235
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: me his brand new car, which I loved.

1236
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: I thought nothing of it and agreed, Yeah, I did.

1237
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 4: You do not get come on? You thought nothing of

1238
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 4: a man inviting you back over at his home to

1239
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: look at his car.

1240
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: You knew what she was doing.

1241
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, We went to his house. He gave me a

1242
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: tour of the house and showed me the car. We

1243
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: sat and talked some more and began to rub my

1244
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: knee and leg at one point, even with how my

1245
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: husband and I left off, I still reminded my friend

1246
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: that I was married and I couldn't do that.

1247
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 4: I'm sorry the fact that you didn't just like get

1248
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: up and leave. I mean you shouldn't gone there in

1249
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 4: the first place. But for you to be like, we

1250
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: can't do this, I'm married and not leave, Yeah, you

1251
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: know what you're doing. You're crazy at this.

1252
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: He knew I was married, and he flirted with me,

1253
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: but I had taken all my forgetting juice and I

1254
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: didn't even know who.

1255
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, here is it. Oh He's like yeah, and

1256
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: I rechecked. I said no literally as well. She's like no, yeah, stop.

1257
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: After going back to his house, yeah, you go, No,

1258
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm married.

1259
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: No, I'm married.

1260
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: Crazy stop crazy, He said he knew, but he started

1261
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: sweet talking to me some more, and he finally said

1262
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 2: the word that I wish I had not let get

1263
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: to me. It's okay to do something like this. I mean,

1264
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: your husband's probably done it, or it's doing it. Was

1265
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: doing it now too. And there's the final piece of

1266
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: the puzzle, which OPI has not said. But I'm gonna

1267
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: go out on a limb and say you've put it

1268
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: out there that your husband's with Janis yeah, and that

1269
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: it's something that's bothering you to this friend of yours.

1270
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah hmm. Those words stung and made me feel numb

1271
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: and mentally absent. I let him continue seducing me until

1272
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: we eventually had spicy sleep twice for the rest of

1273
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: that day. You did it twice.

1274
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 4: You have no legs to.

1275
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: Stand on here.

1276
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm really frustrated because OPI at the beginning of the

1277
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 4: story says, yeah, I know I did this horrible thing.

1278
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: My husband like forgave me, you'd never have to do that,

1279
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and then in describing it is like

1280
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know what I was doing. She feels like,

1281
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: you don't know seduced me, like you know what you did?

1282
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: Just own up to that. Yeah, like ops saying I

1283
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: have no excuses, and then is providing.

1284
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: Excuses like honestly say that you cheated because you were insecure.

1285
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: That's why, straight up.

1286
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: If that's it, If I'm the partner, if I'm Ope,

1287
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 2: or if I'm Ope's partner in the situation, I had

1288
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: forgiven her, and then I see this post, I no

1289
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: longer forgive you.

1290
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: No, I take it back because I surd I take

1291
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: it back. Yeah, it's just she's literally taking all of

1292
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: the blame off of herself.

1293
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: I wonder what she's looking for here. Let's let's find out.

1294
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: Let's keep going.

1295
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: I almost immediately, almost immediately felt sick to my stomach

1296
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: and horrible.

1297
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: After we were.

1298
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: Done, I'm sorry. After this time, I.

1299
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Told him I should leave and that my friend was

1300
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: probably expecting me. He told me not to worry, because

1301
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: he texted her saying I was spending the night and

1302
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: that he dropped me off tomorrow the next day. I

1303
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: didn't feel like going to my friend's barbecue at all.

1304
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 4: Due did you say? Did you say?

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00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: I eventually went, but told her I had to leave

1306
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: early because of some things I had to take for work.

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01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she bought that one. I started to tear

1308
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: up on my drive back down home. I felt horrible,

1309
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: even though I had a strong suspicion my husband had

1310
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: done the same thing.

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01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: I got home and noticed there was a note on

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01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: the kitchen counter.

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01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: It said he had gone out with his coworkers to

1314
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: celebrate the deal that went through, and that he'd be

1315
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: back later that night. I wanted to confess as soon

1316
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: as he came home, but when I saw how happy

1317
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: he was about what he had accomplished, I didn't have

1318
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: the courage to ruin his moment for him like that,

1319
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: I waited until the next day to confess. He came

1320
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: home from the gym and I told him I had

1321
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: to tell him something, and I immediately began to cry.

1322
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: I told him I was so hurt with what he

1323
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: had done and how nonchalant he was acting about it,

1324
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: but that I had made a terrible mistake and have

1325
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: no excuses for my action. I'm gonna change that to uh.

1326
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 2: I was so hurt with what I thought he had

1327
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: done crazy. I told him what happened and that I

1328
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: loved him and it was only.

1329
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: A way for me to vent. But at the same time,

1330
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't even myself.

1331
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 4: You were yourself. Stop. How can you even sit? I

1332
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 4: apologize and like still so deeply not understand the situation.

1333
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: In the same sentence, he was so crushed and speechless.

1334
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: I dropped down to my knees and cried in his

1335
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: lap and told him I loved him more than anything

1336
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 2: and that I was so sorry, and I begged him

1337
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: to forgive me. He and I slept in different rooms

1338
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: that night, and the next morning he had himself checked

1339
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: into a hotel. I was so devastated about what had

1340
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: become of our relationship and how I was to blame.

1341
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm sorry, way when.

1342
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 2: You say it like that is really rubbing me the

1343
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 2: wrong way.

1344
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: I'm confused. Why we never He didn't say, like, what

1345
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: are you talking about? I never cheated with Janis right? Yeah,

1346
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: she accused him of cheat.

1347
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure he probably did. Oh, he's not putting that

1348
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: in the story. Yeah, Oh, he is not putting any

1349
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: of this in the story.

1350
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: And I'm like so confused because she's making it seem

1351
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: like he did cheat, but we have no evidence of that.

1352
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like he cheated.

1353
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like it, but she's making it sound

1354
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 4: like it he did, right, which I'm like, what what

1355
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 4: are you doing? Girl?

1356
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: I cried for three days straight until I got a

1357
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: call from him.

1358
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: He told me he had time to think and realized

1359
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: that even though I was at fault and that I

1360
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: had betrayed him, he made a mistake in allowing me

1361
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: to believe he was cheating. I disagreed and claimed all

1362
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: the blame again, told him I was a horrible wife

1363
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: and that I wanted to show him what kind of

1364
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: a wife I can be, a wife he deserves to have.

1365
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: He eventually told me he'd want to try again, but

1366
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: wasn't forgiving me right away. I told him I'd do

1367
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: whatever he wanted, triple backflip right now. Shortly after taking

1368
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: me back, I find out the truth about Janis and

1369
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: that she was truly only a coworker who was also meeting.

1370
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: Him and the other guys at the restaurant that night.

1371
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: Kind of love. That did Op think that a woman

1372
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: couldn't be his coworker.

1373
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: It's just like he was his coworker.

1374
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: They're doing business.

1375
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: All of the information that I didn't gather came out

1376
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 4: after I cheated on him.

1377
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I broke down when I found out and hated

1378
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: myself even more. He told me to shut up, stop

1379
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: playing the villain, because the more I did, the more

1380
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: I reminded him of how I betrayed him and what

1381
01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: I did.

1382
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: Yikes, y'all should not stay together.

1383
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: That's a leaving situation.

1384
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry, he said, shut up and stop playing

1385
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: the villain like you guys don't leave.

1386
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not worth it would be. It would

1387
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: have been so over.

1388
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: It's so over.

1389
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 2: Wow, I agreed, And for two months now I have

1390
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: done everything and anything to prove that I'm worthy of

1391
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: his love again and most importantly, try to rebuild the

1392
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: trust he once had for me. And for two months

1393
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: our relationship has been getting better and better, thankfully. And

1394
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: by the way, it just gets better and better. When

1395
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: you listen to full episodes with stories just like this

1396
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: on Spotify or iHeartRadio or Apple podcasts or YouTube or

1397
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: wherever you listen to podcasts, just search okay, storytime with

1398
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: your thumbs or your fingers or I don't know, you

1399
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: can use voice search, and you can listen to over

1400
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: two thousand episodes. Wow, that's a whole lot of episodes.

1401
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 4: So but we got a little bit left.

1402
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: We do this, we do. Let's go ahead and round

1403
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: it up.

1404
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: However, just two days ago, Oh, my husband's friend, who

1405
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: knew about my.

1406
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: Cheating, called me and told me he wanted to talk.

1407
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: I knew he had not been in good terms with

1408
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: me since he found out what I did to my husband,

1409
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: so I was perplexed as to why he wanted to talk.

1410
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: We meet and he tells me that he was only

1411
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: doing this for my husband's well being and not mine.

1412
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: He told me that he had spoken with my husband,

1413
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: and my husband had told him that it has been

1414
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: unaliving him to be in the dark about what I

1415
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 2: may or may not have done with my college friend

1416
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: that day and feels like he'll never be able to

1417
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: get past it if he doesn't find out. He told

1418
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 2: his friend that he was planning on asking me about

1419
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: the details of that day everything he can think of asking.

1420
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: I got that similar sick in the stomach feeling again.

1421
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: His friend told me not to go through with it.

1422
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: He told me to tell him that I either forgot

1423
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: or give him some non graphic general answers, because if

1424
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: I told him the details, he would never get over

1425
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: it and he would be deeply crushed.

1426
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: I am now in a very tight situation.

1427
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: For two months, I've been telling my husband of my

1428
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: where about and everything else that a wife wouldn't normally

1429
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: tell her husband. I have been truthful to a tea,

1430
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: but now it seems like I am danged if I do,

1431
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: and danged if I don't. If I tell him the

1432
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: truth and answer his questions, it will hurt him deeply.

1433
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: If I don't tell him the truth and don't answer

1434
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: his questions. Genuinely, I would be lying and once again

1435
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: being manipulative. I don't know what to do being manipulative?

1436
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: Is that what you call cheating on your husband with

1437
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: another guy who's being manipulative?

1438
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 4: I think in lying about the details, that's what she's saying.

1439
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 2: But she said once again being manipulative. So where was

1440
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: the first manipulation? It's true, were you cheated on? Are

1441
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: you trying to say, cheating on your husband with another

1442
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: guy twice in one night?

1443
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: Whose manipulation?

1444
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

1445
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: The problem is we're not taking any real responsibility for

1446
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: this in our own heads.

1447
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where it needs. I just think that you're you. Yes, continue,

1448
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. Has anyone else been

1449
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 4: in a similar situation? What general things should I avoid saying?

1450
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: If I decide to tell the truth.

1451
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: Do I have the to deny him of his questions

1452
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: if I feel like it would be hurting him?

1453
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: I think the thing is that, oh, he is right,

1454
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 4: this will only hurt her partner. He will never forget

1455
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 4: that you had spicy sleep twice with this guy because

1456
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: you thought that he was maybe cheating with this random person,

1457
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 4: right that his coworker. And he's never gonna you know,

1458
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: and you're never gonna be able to meet these crazy

1459
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: expectations that he has for you. So it's just done.

1460
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: It needs to be.

1461
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: Leave really can't lie to him and be like, you know,

1462
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: I don't remember