Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. Welcome back All the Smoke, La
Speaker 1: Run Serve had a good day, but man, we get
Speaker 1: to sit down with man the newest member of the
Speaker 1: All the Smoke production team. Family God, welcome to the
Speaker 1: team and the show. Ray Johon Rondo Welcome, Man, I
Speaker 1: mean already, family, we're here. We've been talking for a
Speaker 1: few months and we're really excited we were able to
Speaker 1: get this deal done with you, and it just excited
Speaker 1: to what you bring to this space as far as
Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge in the game, a lot of
Speaker 1: years in the game, a champion, a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: What is your goal in its content space?
Speaker 2: Mister kind of shared my knowlge of the game. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of projects I want to get into eventually,
Speaker 2: but you know, first off, I want to say thank
Speaker 2: you to y'all taking a chance with me, and I
Speaker 2: feel like it's going to be a great fit. Obviously,
Speaker 2: our personality are similar off the court and how we
Speaker 2: play the game on the court as well, so there's
Speaker 2: a lot of synergy in this group and it's glad
Speaker 2: to be a partist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're glad to have you.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Last time we talked, you were fresh off a bubble
Speaker 1: championship in twenty twenty. What's new? What's going on? I
Speaker 1: know you're going back to school right now. I know
Speaker 1: you haven't officially retired. Like, what's going on in your
Speaker 1: day to day?
Speaker 2: Day to day? Man, I'm actually I'm on spring break.
Speaker 2: So I'm out here on spring break.
Speaker 1: Students in LA for spring break.
Speaker 2: So I am in school, full time student.
Speaker 1: Now money not to cut you off Monday through Friday online?
Speaker 2: No got I got two in person and two online.
Speaker 1: So actually back in Kentucky, back.
Speaker 2: In the University of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Man, that's done.
Speaker 2: I go twice a week. I take the drive down.
Speaker 2: But as fun loving this new adventure. They're definitely paying
Speaker 2: for it. The NBA is paying for it. Right to
Speaker 2: speak to that, because I don't think a lot of
Speaker 2: guys you and I talk. I don't think a lot
Speaker 2: of guys realize that the NBA will pay for you
Speaker 2: to go back and get your degree. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Jack has a chance because he never even started
Speaker 2: his ship. But for those who already tiptoed in college,
Speaker 2: even not if you haven't tiptoted, I mean, the league
Speaker 2: still I think up to like maybe six years of
Speaker 2: retirement will pay for your education up to think twenty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, So as long as you've maintaining a certain GPA,
Speaker 2: they'll pay for it. You get it done, So I
Speaker 2: commanded whoever everyone has ever done it or going back,
Speaker 2: but I encourage guys that aren't playing anymore or havn't played.
Speaker 2: Helped them transition because a lot of guys don't necessarily
Speaker 2: do well with retirement or not have something to do.
Speaker 2: But school for me has been fun. I'm actually enjoying
Speaker 2: it more now than I did, you know, eighteen years ago,
Speaker 2: and was back at UK trying to just get to
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So what is it like being back on campus at
Speaker 1: thirty eight? I mean, we were just at UCLA the
Speaker 1: other day and we had to hurry up and get
Speaker 1: off campus because there's just a lot of shit going
Speaker 1: on too much. But what was I mean, what's it like?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously our mindsets are way different from when
Speaker 1: we were eighteen, nineteen twenty walking on our respective campuses.
Speaker 1: Now you're a grown man with the family and the
Speaker 1: whole career behind you. What's it like on the day
Speaker 1: to day? I mean pictures seeing old professors I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the day to day like on campus?
Speaker 2: Day to day, you know how I'm moving. I'm pretty
Speaker 2: much in and out. I park right where I need
Speaker 2: to park, you know, campus to get the class. Like
Speaker 2: I said, my earliest semester classes, like last year there
Speaker 2: were longer walks, but these two in particularly, I go
Speaker 2: to this semester there right next door, I go to classroom.
Speaker 2: I don't give you time, but I go to class
Speaker 2: you on Tuesday and Thursdays, and you know it's no
Speaker 2: big deal. I'm going to class one of my one
Speaker 2: of my classrooms about twelve kids, twelve young young men
Speaker 2: and women. And then the also other classes one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty five. Yeah, it's been fun. I'm learning a lot,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, so I'm throwing the idea out there already,
Speaker 1: making it come to fruition. So my twins want to
Speaker 1: go to UCLA, and I'm like a semester away from graduating.
Speaker 1: So if they go back to school, I'm going back
Speaker 1: to school. But I want to turn into a show,
Speaker 1: like I want to try, like a scripted dramedy about
Speaker 1: a washed up NBA player going back to school with
Speaker 1: like two up and coming five stars, right, So I
Speaker 1: think I might do that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: So we're going to see your son, your coach now,
Speaker 1: I get a chance to coach my kids. Jack coached
Speaker 1: in the past. But what is that experience like? He
Speaker 1: just went viral on ball his life, So what's that
Speaker 1: what's that journey like? It's a different way. I want
Speaker 1: to talk to you about that too, because you shook
Speaker 1: your head. What's it like being coaching your son and
Speaker 1: just seeing that, you know, him excelling something he loves
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: It's a joy. It's definitely a joy to coach my son,
Speaker 2: and that he's at the stage now where he's listening.
Speaker 2: So eleven twelve, he's twelve twelve. He's twelve, and he's
Speaker 2: a sponge of the game. He wants to get better
Speaker 2: each time. And me, you know, explained him to understanding
Speaker 2: he has a target on his back. And as you
Speaker 2: mentioned him just going viral. We just came back from
Speaker 2: a big term of down at Hoover and you know,
Speaker 2: all the cameras around the court now, so you're starting
Speaker 2: to get a lot of the notoriety and a lot
Speaker 2: of attention. But for me, I'm just try to keep
Speaker 2: him as humble as possible. He doesn't have social media,
Speaker 2: And then when my team is with me that particular weekend,
Speaker 2: I shut social media down because I think that's affecting
Speaker 2: these kids to when they don't give it. Damn if
Speaker 2: you win. To Losese, like as soon as you get
Speaker 2: out out of the game, they on the ground who
Speaker 2: tagged me, who posted me, was like, that's that's that's
Speaker 2: fucking our young kids' heads up, and that's not what
Speaker 2: we allow on our program.
Speaker 3: No more more.
Speaker 1: I like the Jamal Crawford made a post a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago about parents and outside noise, and obviously we
Speaker 1: came up in a different time. You were a little
Speaker 1: bit younger us, but in the same same kind of
Speaker 1: age group and wave all this. You know again, kids
Speaker 1: can loot me three and done or two and done,
Speaker 1: but you'll see a highlight tape up, you know, the
Speaker 1: next second. So what is like your your focus and
Speaker 1: how successful you obviously touched out, how successful hasn't been
Speaker 1: on understanding with the big picture in but also enjoying
Speaker 1: the ride, allowing the kids to enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, that's what it's about. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty strip on the road. Obviously, I'm a lot
Speaker 2: of kids made. You know, a lot of parents may
Speaker 2: send their kids with with just me and the coaches.
Speaker 2: So obviously where they're extended, dad's on the road. And
Speaker 2: for me it's it's a great experience because I teach
Speaker 2: them discipline. We go to bed at a certain time,
Speaker 2: I take the phones. I said, always say, we don't
Speaker 2: have social media, and it's a business trip kind of
Speaker 2: how we approach it in our game. I try to
Speaker 2: treat them the same level or how we're doing an NBA.
Speaker 2: It's like I said, we come here, we ain't getting
Speaker 2: swimming pools. We ain't doing this in the third We're
Speaker 2: gonna probably go to movies and sit and relax if
Speaker 2: we get a good time or other than that, we're
Speaker 2: there for business. We watch film more than any probably
Speaker 2: the NBA team combined. I mean we at each game
Speaker 2: because at that age a game, you're learning the game,
Speaker 2: so each and for me, instead of arguing with my
Speaker 2: kids back and forth, I just pop the tape in
Speaker 2: and then you know, there's nothing to argue about. I
Speaker 2: have the whole team vote was this a travel?
Speaker 3: Was this a foul?
Speaker 2: And they get to coach themselves, and not only you know,
Speaker 2: just hear me thinking I'm just crazy and talking the
Speaker 2: sound all the time. It's like, here's the proof. See
Speaker 2: And then when they know where they get to film
Speaker 2: and they changed their mindset within the game, they know, okay, shit,
Speaker 2: I'm have to get up the screen now because last
Speaker 2: time in film we talked about this. So it's easy
Speaker 2: for me to teach the kids and I don't have
Speaker 2: to go back and forth with them a lot because
Speaker 2: right after the game we jumped right in the van.
Speaker 2: We watch it.
Speaker 1: I love it, So talk to us about I mean,
Speaker 1: we all grew up playing on the blacktops and playing
Speaker 1: pickup games and there was a little bit of training.
Speaker 1: Now it's so much one on one training and then
Speaker 1: just games, and I feel like kids don't really know
Speaker 1: how to play the whole game of basketball. Everyone needs
Speaker 1: the ball in their hands to be effective these days.
Speaker 1: So talk to us about kind of just the new
Speaker 1: form of frames, because I feel like kids are very skilled,
Speaker 1: and even the younger players in the league super super skilled,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they lack just an overall understanding
Speaker 1: of the game and sometimes lack a little bit of
Speaker 1: IQ as well.
Speaker 2: I think the big reason is that because now scoring
Speaker 2: is glorified. The game is pushed so much so if
Speaker 2: you can score, you can play it. You can score,
Speaker 2: you can get to the league. It's like I think
Speaker 2: the game is, it's a lost art of actual leaders
Speaker 2: on the court, like myself. You know who can actually
Speaker 2: if a coach got eject that can run the entire game,
Speaker 2: you know who to get the ball to. Nowadays, again,
Speaker 2: when you're training, you're working out and working out against
Speaker 2: the cone. You know these cones and the games move,
Speaker 2: and then it doesn't translate into the game to where
Speaker 2: you're just focused on individual play and don't know how
Speaker 2: to make your teammates better or doing intangibles with things
Speaker 2: that don't show up on ESPN. All the little things
Speaker 2: that make a team click come together. And for me,
Speaker 2: like I said, the main thing is just being a leader.
Speaker 2: You can't teach the game from just playing or just
Speaker 2: drilling with a trainer four days a week, go back
Speaker 2: and work for us, we hooped, yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: was we hoot more than training. I mean this is
Speaker 2: how it was so uh, these guys don't have the
Speaker 2: opportunity obviously, It's it's not as safe, you know, with
Speaker 2: all the parks and shit clothes, especially back in my neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: You can't just go pick get a pickup game, you know,
Speaker 2: so it does have to be always a school ball
Speaker 2: game or something that particular nature because of the safety.
Speaker 2: But kids still don't play enough, you know, they don't
Speaker 2: play the game enough. They rather train than't play, because again,
Speaker 2: training it taught you how to make any game adjustments
Speaker 2: quicker than when you actually get on a game where
Speaker 2: it counts to pick up ball. You can't. You can't relate,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 1: I feel like there needs a little be a little
Speaker 1: bit more mix up too, because I feel like one
Speaker 1: of the issues is they play a lot of games,
Speaker 1: but they're just games, so they're not structured or control.
Speaker 1: So I think there needs to be more practice time.
Speaker 1: But that's hard if you have a team that has
Speaker 1: kids from different states and in different cities. But I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, they're either training or they're playing
Speaker 1: actual games. I think there needs to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more control so you can control and help make
Speaker 1: the you know, help correct the mistakes in the games
Speaker 1: before they come habits. So I mean, we got kids
Speaker 1: in it, We're gonna see how it goes. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think our kids have an upper hand because they
Speaker 1: had dads that have been to the top of the
Speaker 1: mountain and understand what it takes to get there.
Speaker 2: But go back to what you said about what Jamal
Speaker 2: posted and I actually reposted. It is the parents that
Speaker 2: are killed in the game.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I see so many parents now and just got their
Speaker 2: cameras in the stands. But it's for a highy tape
Speaker 2: versus you know, if you're going to record recorders to
Speaker 2: teach your kids not to make a highlight tape. And
Speaker 2: then when he has to go against some smoke or
Speaker 2: he fa, he faces challenges. He doesn't know how to
Speaker 2: handle those things. So for me, it is the parents.
Speaker 3: The parents.
Speaker 2: Even on some of my programs, I got four teams now,
Speaker 2: you know, don't like the way I may do things.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking myself like, well, you came to my program
Speaker 2: for a reason, so let's wish you the best luck
Speaker 2: to you to get out of here with that type
Speaker 2: of mind. So because again everything I'm giving the kids
Speaker 2: and we're taking our time. Obviously we spend a lot
Speaker 2: of money as well paid for it either at all,
Speaker 2: So we're taking the time and teaching your kids. You know,
Speaker 2: it's either you get out of the program or you
Speaker 2: gotta get out, you know. So it's the parents that
Speaker 2: are kind of watering it down and not being authentic
Speaker 2: with their kids.
Speaker 3: Last up, Don Breed.
Speaker 4: Two of the top five assists leaders in the league
Speaker 4: right now is Saendlers. How do you feel about, you know,
Speaker 4: you being one of the point guards, one of the
Speaker 4: real point guards. How do you feel about it not
Speaker 4: being no point guards like, you know, like it's erased
Speaker 4: all the point guards. That's true point guards, you Chris Paul,
Speaker 4: it's no more guards like that in the league, very few.
Speaker 2: Rather, I mean it's sad. I believe, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: basketball guys appreciate, you know, myself and Chris the way
Speaker 2: we play the game. I believe the right way. You know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't not that every guard is scoring down is selfish.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, the point guard is the
Speaker 2: leader of the floor. He's a extended extension of the
Speaker 2: coach on the floor. And like I said earlier about it,
Speaker 2: if a lot of these coaches got thrown out the game,
Speaker 2: point guard wouldnt know how to handle the situation. They
Speaker 2: wouldn't know what plays to call down the stretch of
Speaker 2: the games. They would know who would get the ball
Speaker 2: to a certain time. It's different matchup, so you know this,
Speaker 2: it's sad the game is gone this way. But again, uh,
Speaker 2: the league wanted scoring and they watched you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty point games. Like you know, there's no
Speaker 2: DEFENSI isn't being you know, cherished, and there's a defensive
Speaker 2: man of war, but nobody really talks about it. It's
Speaker 2: not like that guy's actual defensive player that can stop
Speaker 2: and play both sides. So I know he was talking
Speaker 2: earlier about how Ae and Edwards plays both sides at all.
Speaker 2: But guys aren't valued as much. I believe it's like
Speaker 2: they'll say a three and D guy, but the stars
Speaker 2: aren't playing defense, right, the stars aren't the matchups and
Speaker 2: not seeing the tape the other day with him checking PG, yeah,
Speaker 2: locking it up and man like he wanted that smoke
Speaker 2: and he said that since us say that he pleas
Speaker 2: the guy that plays both sides. So to see him
Speaker 2: actually do this at a young age, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: kudos to him. But the point guard is.
Speaker 3: Gone and we respect that that.
Speaker 2: Now it may come back, but the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Obviously they're going they're going to European style. They're now
Speaker 2: trying to get to Africa. I mean, they're they're pushing
Speaker 2: the game differently, and I don't think the game is
Speaker 2: being taught or valued as it should be. But you
Speaker 2: know that's the the waivers with.
Speaker 4: Teams like Phoenix abandoning the point guard completely. How you
Speaker 4: feel about that, I mean, I think it's gonna be
Speaker 4: hard to win that way.
Speaker 2: I think it does. You know, everyone wants to be different. Again,
Speaker 2: I don't still see them having a leader on the
Speaker 2: floor because again, you got three great first Battle.
Speaker 3: Hall of famers know how to get their shot first.
Speaker 2: Get that's what that's who they are, and that's okay.
Speaker 2: But for me, like I said, that was easy for
Speaker 2: me to manage in the sense, you know, I was
Speaker 2: talked by Doc, great leadership from Sam Caunsell, my Vets, PJ. Brown,
Speaker 2: But that was my mindset. You know, I was always
Speaker 2: a selfish player. I wanted to make my teammates around
Speaker 2: me their job easier. No matter how many grates I
Speaker 2: played with, I wanted to make them Okay, if you
Speaker 2: average twenty six, let me get you to twenty seven shooting,
Speaker 2: you know, ten more or six more percentags higher than
Speaker 2: the fields, you know what I mean. So it was like,
Speaker 2: I want to make the game easier, and that's how
Speaker 2: I study their game and study my game to make
Speaker 2: sure it mix. It went well.
Speaker 4: P was already a thirty point score, but then you
Speaker 4: getting them six to eighties. Was a game that was
Speaker 4: a quick, easy party on us.
Speaker 2: It's okay, let me go to pe right now. Now
Speaker 2: I get Now he gets two free throws. Now he's
Speaker 2: in the rhythm. So it's like this will be able
Speaker 2: to manipulate the game that way. I'm pretty sure nobody
Speaker 2: really thinks that in that way.
Speaker 1: Now, walk me through the first you know, football scripted,
Speaker 1: the first you know, first two drives are scripted. Walk
Speaker 1: me through the first three or four minutes of the game.
Speaker 1: When you have yourself, Ray, Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 1: and Kendrick Perkins on the floor. What are you looking
Speaker 1: for and how are you looking to start the game.
Speaker 1: I'm looking and dominating the paint. Get Ray wide up
Speaker 1: and look early as possible. It depends on the matchups,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean.
Speaker 2: If you got you have to give me a team
Speaker 2: to where Okay, if who's the weakest link, you know,
Speaker 2: we're gonna attack this guy, particularly on defense. If it's
Speaker 2: a star player, we're playing against Vince Card, I might
Speaker 2: want Pe to go Advince the first lead. Again, we're
Speaker 2: gonna set the tone early. He's gonna pick up a
Speaker 2: foul and now now I'm going right back at him,
Speaker 2: or it just depends on how the game flow. If
Speaker 2: that superstar I got a first foul, Doc, don't you
Speaker 2: have to talk to me. We're going right back to
Speaker 2: Whether I'm coming out of pick and roll and trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, bump into his leg to get the foul,
Speaker 2: or we're trying to post, you know, whatever the case
Speaker 2: may be, I'm trying to get him a second five
Speaker 2: out of the game earlier. That way, they have to
Speaker 2: make a quicker adjustment than we do when you go
Speaker 2: in the ticket. I mean, it just depends. If you
Speaker 2: obviously beat some man down the floor, I'm going to
Speaker 2: him first. If we want to go inside, then obviously
Speaker 2: it's if we're going against a Rasheed or mcdce, I'm
Speaker 2: going to ticket. If I'm going against Kevin Love, I'm
Speaker 2: going to Kevin. Who else is back in the day
Speaker 2: playing and if I'm going against Tim Duncan, we're going
Speaker 2: to We're going a ticket, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's like whoever had that matchup the first play
Speaker 2: of the game. Hopefully we were trying to go at
Speaker 2: that person.
Speaker 4: This is what I did not is though, because I played,
Speaker 4: y'all a lot. Y'all gave Perkins bone first player of
Speaker 4: the game a lot. Absolutely, the first player the game.
Speaker 4: We're gona give him his bone because he might not
Speaker 4: see no more unless you run the floor.
Speaker 2: But if you if you give him that, now he's
Speaker 2: gonna run through a wall.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's likestanding who your personality is. Like I said,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't always have to be the Big three.
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever got a first play of game,
Speaker 2: but I was okay again, I wanted the first sister
Speaker 2: the game. But now it was like I said, it was.
Speaker 2: It was fun playing with that group of men, and
Speaker 2: how Doc got us to buy in so quickly we
Speaker 2: was able to get it done.
Speaker 1: Someone who has a very high q IQ of the game.
Speaker 1: And really, when you say extension of the coach on
Speaker 1: the floor, like to every sense of the word, that's
Speaker 1: what you were No one can figure out Jokic. What
Speaker 1: would you do if you were coaching against him to
Speaker 1: try to slow him down?
Speaker 2: First of all, you have to have the personnel. I
Speaker 2: think I think the last team to slow them down
Speaker 2: was us in the bubble with the white and I
Speaker 2: think we actually we had the white javel and we
Speaker 2: had a D so we had three seven footas that
Speaker 2: we can throw at him. So I think the closest
Speaker 2: team is Cat healthy. He's done for this time right now,
Speaker 2: he'll be back. Yeah, yeah, So I mean I think
Speaker 2: the team has the best shot, It would probably be
Speaker 2: the two footas that you know, Minnesotas can throw at him.
Speaker 2: But again, if I was a West Coast team, my
Speaker 2: two big would probably be watching joking the entire year.
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm prepping that way, I'm studying all
Speaker 2: his tendency that I'm saying, you know, when he draws fouls,
Speaker 2: when he becomes dominant. I think last night he had
Speaker 2: like ten and ten or twelve, some low scoring game.
Speaker 2: But I'm watching this game seeing what happened, What do
Speaker 2: they do differently? Or I know Michael Porter Junior had
Speaker 2: it going, but it's like what game wereries games where
Speaker 2: he would slow down. Let's figure out what we can
Speaker 2: do to you know, those try to bring out those
Speaker 2: tendencies versus the game. He said forty and those games.
Speaker 2: I'm watching those games as well.
Speaker 3: Okay, what did he get? Great?
Speaker 2: How many free those did you shoot? How many three
Speaker 2: attempts did you make you? I mean, so I'm breaking
Speaker 2: the game down with his game in particular the entire season.
Speaker 4: If I got to go against him in the playoffs,
Speaker 4: it's very very few games what people were able to
Speaker 4: do this. But when you make him try to score
Speaker 4: over you, because he's real crafty.
Speaker 3: He's not fast, but you know how to get around you.
Speaker 4: But if you if you constantly make him try to
Speaker 4: score over you, he has trouble because he's not athletic.
Speaker 2: He's That's why he crafted. That's why I feel like
Speaker 2: our bigs we were able to throw Dwight. He was
Speaker 2: able to, you know, put a body on physicality. This
Speaker 2: long athletic, you know, a student of the game, and
Speaker 2: you got eight that doesn't have to check him every possession.
Speaker 2: But now he has to go against eighty. So now
Speaker 2: we get an offense eighties attacking joke us. We have
Speaker 2: to do you want him to play both sides. Put
Speaker 2: him in pick a roll, put him in pin downs.
Speaker 2: If that big isn't a great you know, score to
Speaker 2: put him in all of pin downs. Force him the switch.
Speaker 2: If not, attack them.
Speaker 1: Love it. Paul recently said on Draymond's podcast, you went
Speaker 1: to ticket University. Early on, I did, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 1: What did that mean? And what did you learn?
Speaker 2: And I learned so much? You know, he was the
Speaker 2: one guy that when I did fuck up, you know,
Speaker 2: he always called me to be like yo, you he's
Speaker 2: a writer. You was wrong and he always kept it
Speaker 2: real with me. And I appreciate that from a from
Speaker 2: a vet standpoint, because a lot of people wouldn't tell
Speaker 2: me the truth, you know what I mean, They probably
Speaker 2: continue to kiss my ass or not hold me accountable
Speaker 2: to the level I need to be held accountble to
Speaker 2: if I wanted to be great discipline. You know, he's
Speaker 2: a probably the most disciplined guy I've ever played with,
Speaker 2: you know, doing the ship every day, in the weight room,
Speaker 2: every day, being a professional, taking care of his body.
Speaker 2: You know, he might be in getting massage for two hours,
Speaker 2: then he might go to the kolto. Then he might
Speaker 2: get shot up.
Speaker 1: So he was he does.
Speaker 2: He did everything consistently every day, and I think that
Speaker 2: helped me become a better professional understanding I had. I
Speaker 2: had him every day. I had Raid that was showing
Speaker 2: up at four o'clock on game days getting shot up
Speaker 2: before the lights came on. And then I had part
Speaker 2: that would I would come in a midnight thinking I'm
Speaker 2: in the gym by myself. He'd be upsels on tripmill.
Speaker 2: So it's like I had all these vets that it
Speaker 2: was like damn okay, like oh okay, and I was
Speaker 2: just a sponge write everything down possible to try to,
Speaker 2: you know, implement in my pot and be great.
Speaker 1: You spoke to something that has gone from the game
Speaker 1: these days, is vets. How important do you feel like
Speaker 1: or how do you feel like the NBA is lacking
Speaker 1: by not having these? And we've said this before. When
Speaker 1: we came in the league, there could be guys that
Speaker 1: are thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight, pushing forty some
Speaker 1: some some you know, some help on the court, but
Speaker 1: some just help in the locker room, on the flights bridge,
Speaker 1: the guests with the coaches. What is the NBA missing
Speaker 1: by not having Vets anymore.
Speaker 2: They're missing a lot and I said, they're missing a
Speaker 2: lot of discipline off the court for the young guys,
Speaker 2: knowing how to move, knowing how to work, you know,
Speaker 2: and knowing how to be great teammates, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like the game isn't always just about the game,
Speaker 2: you know. I think back in the day when Vets
Speaker 2: were around the team, you know, we had like a
Speaker 2: lot more events off the court, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it was more together and this more camaraderie off
Speaker 2: the court as a team. And again it may not
Speaker 2: always have to like each other, but you show it
Speaker 2: for each other's events. And now it's kind of like
Speaker 2: it's about me, my brand, it's all, you know, it's
Speaker 2: nothing else about the team or outside of anything else
Speaker 2: but me versus you know, being a team. So you know,
Speaker 2: the the NBA knew what they were doing. They wanted
Speaker 2: people that could control and you know, with the Vets
Speaker 2: in the locker room, you know, that's not as many
Speaker 2: yes men or people that are just say you know,
Speaker 2: you can say anything to them and not have any resistance.
Speaker 2: So they had to get the best out of in
Speaker 2: my and my my thinking. A lot of my boys
Speaker 2: went out at that particular age because I feel like
Speaker 2: they can't control them anymore.
Speaker 3: And they taught us how to be professionals, right, I know.
Speaker 4: That's one thing I give credit to Steve Smith and
Speaker 4: Kevin Willis and even Steve Carrlem they taught They taught
Speaker 4: me how to be a professional bro to deal with
Speaker 4: getting taken out the game and being mad at coaching,
Speaker 4: all those types of things. Not not having that in
Speaker 4: your career, that's.
Speaker 3: Your career short.
Speaker 1: No, That's definitely helped us. The Gap Celtics this year,
Speaker 1: I think right up there with odds on favorite to
Speaker 1: win it. Uh, do you think they are are real contenders? Uh?
Speaker 1: To bring home that first ring with this this Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum and Jalen Brown group.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I'm biased, but being real as well.
Speaker 2: They they have a great group of young men, and
Speaker 2: I think they have enough guys that are hungry that's
Speaker 2: almost been there, and they have a champ and Drew
Speaker 2: that has been there. And Uh, Sam Cassels on the sideline, Joe,
Speaker 2: I love, you know, working with him when I was
Speaker 2: out there just learning fromhim a couple of days in Boston,
Speaker 2: watching how he works and how he's able to get
Speaker 2: guys to buy in and when he speaks, everyone is,
Speaker 2: you know, all eyes up and paying attend to if
Speaker 2: he has he has the locker room, he's commanded their attention.
Speaker 2: And they also mixed with the auhoor for the type
Speaker 2: of vet like guys that, like I said, haven't always
Speaker 2: made it to the top, but have been right there
Speaker 2: at that particular time. And now I feel like now
Speaker 2: they have the group in mind that that's done it.
Speaker 2: Like I said, they were so close last two years.
Speaker 2: Hopefully this is year they get it done.
Speaker 1: Porzingis's health is going to be important. Definitely, gazingis is
Speaker 1: a problem, but you just got to stay healthy. What
Speaker 1: does the global game You've touched on this earlier, but
Speaker 1: what does the global game of the NBA look like
Speaker 1: in the next ten to fifteen years. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: already in Africa, they're trying to expand, you know, to
Speaker 1: these different continents. What is the game as a whole
Speaker 1: look like when our kids are old enough to play.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy. I
Speaker 2: mean I don't think there's gonna be many Americans in
Speaker 2: the NBA. Possibly in ten fifteen years. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: tough to say, you know, predict the future, but I
Speaker 2: think possibly a percentage of the NBA games would be
Speaker 2: in these different parts of the world, right you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, it may not be eighty two games.
Speaker 2: That might be shortened by then sixty two, maybe twenty
Speaker 2: guys are touring over and you know, and you're turning
Speaker 2: over in Africa playing you know, two three weeks at
Speaker 2: a time and then coming back to the States. I
Speaker 2: think it'll be a rotation of that possibly, but I
Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do a lot too, That's
Speaker 2: a lot. It can change really quickly, as it has
Speaker 2: since you know I've started, and now where the game
Speaker 2: is going now, so you know, it's all about the
Speaker 2: dollar and they're gonna do what it takes to continue
Speaker 2: to make it and get the pie bigger, which is
Speaker 2: why we're able to see these type of contracts in
Speaker 2: these deals.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you feel strong about Boston coming out of the
Speaker 1: East in the West, Denver, Clippers, anyone you think as a.
Speaker 2: Man this, sir, uh top My top three right now
Speaker 2: would probably be Minnesota, Denver, and the Clippers. I can't
Speaker 2: I can't choose I think I feel like Minnesota has
Speaker 2: a Clippers number, particularly one player. When you go against
Speaker 2: some boys, Like I said, he he's gonna give me
Speaker 2: the best shot and he wants it. So I think
Speaker 2: they have a great chance of getting it done. But
Speaker 2: again I can't. I can't connut the champs. You know,
Speaker 2: Yokers is the man. Then, like I said, his sidekick Murray,
Speaker 2: he's going crazy. Then you got Michael Porters getting more
Speaker 2: and more confidence. A g Yeah, I mean they got
Speaker 2: a whip. And then like I said, they they're will
Speaker 2: the well or the World machine. They've been there before.
Speaker 2: They are missing a big piece I believe in Bruce
Speaker 2: Bruce Brown Brown.
Speaker 1: And they're trying to fill that boy with Peyton Watson
Speaker 1: and bron I Liken the from Kansas. Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: white boy's night Brown Brown.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: We'll see how it works out, because you know, I
Speaker 2: think the Sebjics do the same thing. And we thought
Speaker 2: we could reply Tony Allen.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, we get back you. Obviously Kevin
Speaker 2: doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 3: What if? What if?
Speaker 2: But those type of guys, you know, you can't just
Speaker 2: replace and think there aren't is value I mean whether
Speaker 2: maybe you're on the courter off the court, those guys
Speaker 2: are key pieces to championships.
Speaker 1: You're on campus with some superstars, Reed Shepherd, DJ Wagner,
Speaker 1: Rob Dillingham, you get a chance of running to them
Speaker 1: at all, And what do you think about this group
Speaker 1: of kids and you know they're talking about you know
Speaker 1: at least two or three of them, two of them
Speaker 1: are going to be lottery picks.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Funny thing is, uh, before my child was born, my
Speaker 2: baby girl six months ago, I had class with Dellingham
Speaker 2: and I think Bradshaw. So we had a journalist class.
Speaker 2: That was fun, and of course me and Rob kind
Speaker 2: of clicked right away. First day walking to school, we
Speaker 2: kind of looked up and I was like, I've been
Speaker 2: looking for you. Then obviously you wanted to holler me
Speaker 2: to as well. So that was fun, fun moment. Obviously,
Speaker 2: my baby girl came, I had to drop a class
Speaker 2: and now back down to twelve hours. But that was
Speaker 2: a class I had with those guys. One of my
Speaker 2: good friends, John Welch coaching Kentucky. So I was in
Speaker 2: Sacramento with John and I go to this office from
Speaker 2: time to time, sit in and talk watch the game,
Speaker 2: watch him work out Read, you know, Dylan Ham every
Speaker 2: once in a while. So it's been great having those
Speaker 2: guys around, you know, like seeing their stardom grow and
Speaker 2: the way they play the game. You know, I've actually
Speaker 2: taken a couple of AU teams to see Kentucky play
Speaker 2: and always tell them to watch Red. You know, everybody
Speaker 2: loves Rob and want to be you know, yeah, because Rob,
Speaker 2: you know, he got he has moved. I tell him
Speaker 2: watch Rob obviously for the one on one game, but
Speaker 2: I'm like, watch how Read controls the gainst the game,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, you know, he knows
Speaker 2: the game. He's always in the right spot. You know,
Speaker 2: he's not the most athletic, he's not the fastest, but
Speaker 2: it's IQ bingo his i Q is able to meet
Speaker 2: up at the game. And now he's talking about being
Speaker 2: some Pixie's number one pick in the game. I mean
Speaker 2: was anyway, he shoots the basketball and I've seen him work.
Speaker 2: They got some stuff down at Kentucky and I can't
Speaker 2: wait to get my son up there against some working
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: I love it. The women's game in college basketball has
Speaker 1: grown tremendously. Have you been able to catch any of
Speaker 1: these young female stars on the rise.
Speaker 2: On the highlights, but not you know, specifically studied the game.
Speaker 2: And I'm a big fan of the women's game. But
Speaker 2: like I said, with my schedule, kids, school, new baby,
Speaker 2: new baby, gratulations by the way, playing the wedding in
Speaker 2: a couple of months, I mean, appreciate.
Speaker 1: We gotta we got to send some mess to the wedding.
Speaker 3: We got to be there.
Speaker 2: It's in Italy, so.
Speaker 1: You don't know, say what when you get back.
Speaker 3: Congratulations on being inducted.
Speaker 2: Appreciating.
Speaker 3: Brother, yea, yeah, that mean a lot to me.
Speaker 4: Tell me, you know, first of all, congratulations, but how
Speaker 4: does it feel to you to be you know, in
Speaker 4: the Okay Hall of Fame, best high school ever.
Speaker 2: Best high school ever? You know, being there looking at
Speaker 2: that wall, all the names on that wall, it's it's
Speaker 2: definitely a humbling experience, and it's the honored to be
Speaker 2: on that you know, that ballot especial guys like yourself,
Speaker 2: all the greats that has such impact on the league
Speaker 2: as well. But being at that school, like I said,
Speaker 2: if you know, you know, and it's uh, it definitely
Speaker 2: changed my life one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Would you send your son there, But.
Speaker 2: I said my son there. If my son was top
Speaker 2: ten in the country, maybe it just depends on what
Speaker 2: the talent that he was playing with at a particular time,
Speaker 2: you know. For me, like I said, Okill, I wasn't
Speaker 2: playing with the best talent where I'm from Little Kentucky.
Speaker 2: So mean, I'm playing with guys my big the biggest
Speaker 2: guy my team was six, you know, six y three.
Speaker 2: When I got to go to o'kill, I got Brian
Speaker 2: Johnson sixty ten, Josh Smith sixty eight, forty five in
Speaker 2: vertican me.
Speaker 3: So it's like I got really crazy.
Speaker 2: I got to really you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: explore my game to where I just have to just
Speaker 2: go try to score sixty every time, Like I was
Speaker 2: able to now become a real true point guard, being
Speaker 2: able to get guy. I think that's pretty much where
Speaker 2: it started for me at Okill. So I was able
Speaker 2: to niplate the game and get guys open, keep guys happy,
Speaker 2: and then be an extension of Coach Smith on the
Speaker 2: court to where I need to do what I needed
Speaker 2: to do for him.
Speaker 4: Put your out of all the players went to Okill that,
Speaker 4: you know, put make your own starting five, starting five, Yeah,
Speaker 4: out of all the players that it's been there, starting five.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you mine because I had, I had, I had.
Speaker 1: I tell you mynther Rod Strickland said he was a
Speaker 1: big fan of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, let's go starting five.
Speaker 1: Don't be bashful.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I mnna have to go with I can't remember. You
Speaker 4: can't use Katie because he didn't graduate from I can't
Speaker 4: use KD. He didn't graduate from Okill.
Speaker 1: Say less, Okay, Jack bringing.
Speaker 4: If you was a ok kill, that's how we go,
Speaker 4: that's how we got respect it.
Speaker 2: Let's go with stack Jerry stack House.
Speaker 3: He's I knew who he was talking about. I knew
Speaker 3: who he was talking about.
Speaker 2: I gotta go with Josh Smith, Camello, Ryan Mercer.
Speaker 1: Who's running the show. Who's running the show. It can't
Speaker 1: be me, Yeah, it can't be. So I said, don't
Speaker 1: be bashful, can you oh to me?
Speaker 2: I'd love to play with it, but I mean it's
Speaker 2: not me. I might have to go with a bigger
Speaker 2: line up. I mean, you know, shout out the strict
Speaker 2: Jack Brandon Jennings. I mean, it's so much. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of Yeah, like.
Speaker 4: If you ask Themboudy, if you ask somebody, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be different every time. Think I would go since we
Speaker 4: since you here, I would go you uh me at
Speaker 4: the two stack, at the three, mellow at the four,
Speaker 4: Josh Smith at the five.
Speaker 1: That's this day.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, fel right now, yeah.
Speaker 1: Now dogs and Buckie Getters. Is it true you have
Speaker 1: a superstition about showering?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: Is what is it to us?
Speaker 2: I always showered forty five minutes on the clock right
Speaker 2: before you know. I depend on what time you did meetings.
Speaker 2: But you meeting was at thirty five. I was shower
Speaker 2: ten minutes before myself about seven minutes in the shower
Speaker 2: and then come out and I'll put my humble as
Speaker 2: the coach is talking. Some coaches liked it, something didn't.
Speaker 2: But for the most part I was able to put
Speaker 2: my vet move and get it done. But I showered
Speaker 2: on game days usually probably about five times, five times,
Speaker 2: five times. Yeah, and what does this dude just kind
Speaker 2: of reset you? Last year it kind of refreshed me.
Speaker 2: Like obviously showering, you get up, come back home and
Speaker 2: shoot around, take a nap, get up, shower, and they
Speaker 2: go to arena showered, and after game shower. So it
Speaker 2: was you know, it's about right, that's about I would
Speaker 2: hope you take at least three yeah, yeah, three old game.
Speaker 1: So now not playing anymore? Do you still have the
Speaker 1: superstition of having to get a certain amount of showers?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: And I'm just focused on trying to work out every day.
Speaker 3: Okay after that, but no, that's it.
Speaker 1: Sixteen years, two time champ, four time All Star, four
Speaker 1: time All defensive, top fifteen all time and all assists
Speaker 1: along with John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, one of
Speaker 1: four players average eleven assists for four or more seasons
Speaker 1: and turn out hell of a hell of a resume
Speaker 1: is have we seen? Have we seen the last of
Speaker 1: Rajon Rondo in the NBA?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's official.
Speaker 1: You're done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done. I can't. I can't now, I gotta
Speaker 2: spend time. I'd rather spend time with my kids. You
Speaker 2: enjoyed it that, you know, make me two hundred million dollars,
Speaker 2: and you know, telling them certain things, they're like a like,
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3: My kids over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when you sit back and look, because most
Speaker 1: of the time in the moment, we never get a
Speaker 1: chance to when we just read your accolades, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a bunch of other shit we didn't list,
Speaker 1: but just the plane rides, the locker rooms, the bus rides.
Speaker 1: Like when you sit back and look out over it,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 2: What a time? You know what I mean? Like, it
Speaker 2: was definitely something I would never took for granted. You know,
Speaker 2: while I was in the game, I loved every minute
Speaker 2: of it, and I appreciate the brotherhood that I was
Speaker 2: able to share and bond and grow with over the years.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I learned so much in this game,
Speaker 2: and this made me the man who I am today,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, all the all the ups and
Speaker 2: downs part of my life, but being able to for me,
Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily about the money. Was about When I
Speaker 2: first was introduced to this game, my mentors, Mike Bibbi
Speaker 2: Dereck Anderson, it was just that free time in the summertime.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, y'all get that work out morning
Speaker 2: and y'all done the rest of the summer, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, gott to get Like I would say,
Speaker 2: like it's like a school schedule. I can teach the schedule.
Speaker 2: You work all winter and then you work you had
Speaker 2: fun in summertimes. So for me, that was what initially
Speaker 2: got me to start to motivate it to work and
Speaker 2: work and work and try to get to this goal.
Speaker 2: Because I tell people all the time like this wasn't
Speaker 2: a dream of mine. You know, it was a goal,
Speaker 2: and I was able to lock in, stay disciplined. I
Speaker 2: didn't party a lot in college where I just don't
Speaker 2: party because I now going back out on party off,
Speaker 2: so I just I skipped that. But again it was
Speaker 2: worth the sacrifice of me getting to where I wanted
Speaker 2: to be in life. And I was under underdog my
Speaker 2: whole life, you know what I mean. I was always
Speaker 2: I feel like a guy to overachieved and was counted out.
Speaker 2: But you know I understood what it took to get there,
Speaker 2: and I was blessed and fortunate to have the write
Speaker 2: people around me to keep me going. You know, when
Speaker 2: towns weren't as good and the persevering understood that cream
Speaker 2: always rise to the top.
Speaker 4: You was involved in the maybe the most historic pickup
Speaker 4: game in my hometown. I think whether it was you
Speaker 4: when y'all was down up for perks. You so my
Speaker 4: hometown and coach got coaches gonna release the footage, just
Speaker 4: gonna give it to us.
Speaker 3: But it's Kat you, James, Me Perk and a couple
Speaker 3: of other pros. Uh.
Speaker 4: That was on OKC team, but it was the wholes
Speaker 4: people from my hometown and this was the first time
Speaker 4: where we had a pickup game with this many pros.
Speaker 3: That was the memorable moment in my hometown. Do you
Speaker 3: remember that? It was?
Speaker 4: It was one of the best pickup games I've ever
Speaker 4: played in bro and like for my hometown like that,
Speaker 4: that was like a professional game played in Yeah. So
Speaker 4: we got footage of it too. I'm gonna see you
Speaker 4: to put it. It was unbelievable that game and it
Speaker 4: was all on the prime James kad him. They always
Speaker 4: in their prime too.
Speaker 2: We did the same thing at Kentucky the lockout year
Speaker 2: with all the pros. We always had differenceies. We meet
Speaker 2: up and hoop like that was. That was a good
Speaker 2: old day.
Speaker 1: The lockout was fun because there was a lot of
Speaker 1: legendary pickup games that we're put together and happened. We
Speaker 1: had one in the Baby with that we believe team
Speaker 1: versus the Current, So that was the Young Steph Jeremy Lynn,
Speaker 1: our old squad. It was that lockout time was fun,
Speaker 1: that that game with Mellow and Brown. Cobe had some games,
Speaker 1: it was a lot, had some actions. Yeah yeah for real?
Speaker 1: Who is ray Seon Rondo outside of basketball today?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Future husband?
Speaker 1: Talk that ship?
Speaker 2: Uh a college student you know, going back. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to actually what you said about your kids. My daughter
Speaker 2: is actually UK has been on her line a looking
Speaker 2: really so I told him I'm gonna try to get
Speaker 2: at her before you graduate or if I don't, you
Speaker 2: know that school together.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, dad, I'm a full time dad as much
Speaker 2: as I can be, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty active and say I got a brand new daughter.
Speaker 2: So that's me man, Like I said, trying to be
Speaker 2: the best husband I can be. Uh, become closer to God.
Speaker 2: And it's can you be a better person this day?
Speaker 1: I love it. Quick hitters. One piece of advice you
Speaker 1: would give a young Hooper right now.
Speaker 2: Don't chase the money, man, chase getting better each day,
Speaker 2: you know, fall in love with getting better each day,
Speaker 2: taking one day at a time. Don't look at the rankings,
Speaker 2: don't look at the graham like I said, I was,
Speaker 2: I was ranked two thousand my senior in high school.
Speaker 2: You know, I went to ol kids. I was able
Speaker 2: to exposure. I worked every day. It came to Mickey D's,
Speaker 2: and then you know, the rest is history. But like
Speaker 2: I said, I was always just a worker. Like I
Speaker 2: didn't give it you, I didn't give it about anything else.
Speaker 2: But just's getting better each.
Speaker 4: Day, same same road. Okay, child crush.
Speaker 2: Shout out the left eye.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: No one said her that's a good call. I like
Speaker 1: that crazy, but God bless herself. One thing you wish
Speaker 1: you were better at.
Speaker 2: A better communicator.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's the number one answer. We all are.
Speaker 3: We all know we burnt. What's your guilty pleasure?
Speaker 2: Fucking with people that be like are you? I'm like
Speaker 2: no or I get that a lot. I don't never
Speaker 2: really Just like I said, they mess with me. If
Speaker 2: they don't ask me to say who I am, I
Speaker 2: act like I don't. I get that a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So seeing people fucking with them.
Speaker 1: Most underrated player you played with or against in your
Speaker 1: tenure I.
Speaker 2: Have to go with my probably my boy Josh Smith.
Speaker 2: I think he was uh that Atlanta Smith, I mean
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawk team he played with. I think he had
Speaker 2: a big portion of where they were successful. He did everything,
Speaker 2: you know, he ran the floor of block shots, play defense.
Speaker 2: I mean he was he was an intangible guy. I
Speaker 2: never made All Star game. Joe was the man obviously,
Speaker 2: but like I said, I think after that they had
Speaker 2: a lot of good pieces are from Mike Bibbe, but
Speaker 2: he was the guy that kind of did it all
Speaker 2: that some pretty crazy particularly rebounds everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looked at it. Three point shot.
Speaker 4: If you could see one guest on our show, who
Speaker 4: would it be? But you have to help us get
Speaker 4: your answer on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get my boy Joshmith for I can get that
Speaker 2: right there to fish you know what.
Speaker 4: And he's just like Rondo involved coaching kids program.
Speaker 1: We were just together, like I said, we uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's some of my favorite I mean, getting a chance
Speaker 1: to see people we played against as were they're coaching
Speaker 1: our kids or as we're they're watching our kids. Like
Speaker 1: that's that to me, that was That's really underrated what
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed in this I've been in since seventeen since
Speaker 1: I retired. I've been coaching the boys and you know,
Speaker 1: about to start up again. But getting a chance to
Speaker 1: run into each other at these tournaments and kind of
Speaker 1: catching up and smiling and smiling, and you know, just
Speaker 1: seeing our kids, you know, enjoy what they do and
Speaker 1: we enjoy getting back together.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: That's definitely we got to get that.
Speaker 2: We gotta get that tournament.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get get the kids, and we got the
Speaker 1: doctor World way too. So again, man, welcome to the family.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. Man, definitely looking forward to working
Speaker 1: and building with you. Congratulations on a tremendous career, Congratulations
Speaker 1: on the new daughter, and best of luck with the
Speaker 1: wedding coming up soon.
Speaker 3: Man.
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