WEBVTT - Rajon Rondo On The New Generation, NBA Globalization, 2024 Celtics | EXTRA SMOKE Full Episode 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:26.400 Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. Welcome back All the Smoke, La 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.800 Run Serve had a good day, but man, we get 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.760 to sit down with man the newest member of the 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.479 All the Smoke production team. Family God, welcome to the 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:42.360 team and the show. Ray Johon Rondo Welcome, Man, I 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.199 mean already, family, we're here. We've been talking for a 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.479 few months and we're really excited we were able to 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.600 get this deal done with you, and it just excited 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.160 to what you bring to this space as far as 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.560 a lot of knowledge in the game, a lot of 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.840 years in the game, a champion, a future Hall of Famer. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.000 What is your goal in its content space? 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.319 Mister kind of shared my knowlge of the game. You know, 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.039 a lot of projects I want to get into eventually, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.200 but you know, first off, I want to say thank 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.600 you to y'all taking a chance with me, and I 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.240 feel like it's going to be a great fit. Obviously, 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.160 our personality are similar off the court and how we 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.960 play the game on the court as well, so there's 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.319 a lot of synergy in this group and it's glad 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:20.920 to be a partist. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.039 Yeah, we're glad to have you. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:22.240 Bro. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.160 Last time we talked, you were fresh off a bubble 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:30.240 championship in twenty twenty. What's new? What's going on? I 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:31.840 know you're going back to school right now. I know 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.520 you haven't officially retired. Like, what's going on in your 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:35.080 day to day? 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.160 Day to day? Man, I'm actually I'm on spring break. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.280 So I'm out here on spring break. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.080 Students in LA for spring break. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:46.319 So I am in school, full time student. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.840 Now money not to cut you off Monday through Friday online? 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.720 No got I got two in person and two online. 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.000 So actually back in Kentucky, back. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:55.800 In the University of Kentucky. 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:56.400 Man, that's done. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.080 I go twice a week. I take the drive down. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:03.080 But as fun loving this new adventure. They're definitely paying 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.000 for it. The NBA is paying for it. Right to 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:07.240 speak to that, because I don't think a lot of 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.560 guys you and I talk. I don't think a lot 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.639 of guys realize that the NBA will pay for you 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:11.760 to go back and get your degree. I don't know 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.639 if Jack has a chance because he never even started 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.320 his ship. But for those who already tiptoed in college, 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.000 even not if you haven't tiptoted, I mean, the league 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.000 still I think up to like maybe six years of 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.200 retirement will pay for your education up to think twenty 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.600 thousand dollars, So as long as you've maintaining a certain GPA, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.840 they'll pay for it. You get it done, So I 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.359 commanded whoever everyone has ever done it or going back, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.640 but I encourage guys that aren't playing anymore or havn't played. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.280 Helped them transition because a lot of guys don't necessarily 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.160 do well with retirement or not have something to do. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.480 But school for me has been fun. I'm actually enjoying 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.880 it more now than I did, you know, eighteen years ago, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.200 and was back at UK trying to just get to 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:46.600 the league. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:46.800 Right. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.400 So what is it like being back on campus at 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.520 thirty eight? I mean, we were just at UCLA the 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:52.720 other day and we had to hurry up and get 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.560 off campus because there's just a lot of shit going 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.480 on too much. But what was I mean, what's it like? 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.760 I mean, obviously our mindsets are way different from when 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.120 we were eighteen, nineteen twenty walking on our respective campuses. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.200 Now you're a grown man with the family and the 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.120 whole career behind you. What's it like on the day 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.320 to day? I mean pictures seeing old professors I mean, 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:11.680 what's the day to day like on campus? 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.280 Day to day, you know how I'm moving. I'm pretty 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.360 much in and out. I park right where I need 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.920 to park, you know, campus to get the class. Like 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.240 I said, my earliest semester classes, like last year there 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:21.960 were longer walks, but these two in particularly, I go 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.640 to this semester there right next door, I go to classroom. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.280 I don't give you time, but I go to class 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.480 you on Tuesday and Thursdays, and you know it's no 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:31.880 big deal. I'm going to class one of my one 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.440 of my classrooms about twelve kids, twelve young young men 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.480 and women. And then the also other classes one hundred 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.880 and thirty five. Yeah, it's been fun. I'm learning a lot, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.280 and I'm glad I'm doing it. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.800 I'm thinking, so I'm throwing the idea out there already, 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.120 making it come to fruition. So my twins want to 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.600 go to UCLA, and I'm like a semester away from graduating. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:50.960 So if they go back to school, I'm going back 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.360 to school. But I want to turn into a show, 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.200 like I want to try, like a scripted dramedy about 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.600 a washed up NBA player going back to school with 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.200 like two up and coming five stars, right, So I 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:02.960 think I might do that. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:03.200 Man. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.080 So we're going to see your son, your coach now, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.560 I get a chance to coach my kids. Jack coached 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.480 in the past. But what is that experience like? He 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.080 just went viral on ball his life, So what's that 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.720 what's that journey like? It's a different way. I want 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.000 to talk to you about that too, because you shook 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.160 your head. What's it like being coaching your son and 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.360 just seeing that, you know, him excelling something he loves 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:20.719 so much. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.600 It's a joy. It's definitely a joy to coach my son, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.920 and that he's at the stage now where he's listening. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.400 So eleven twelve, he's twelve twelve. He's twelve, and he's 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.120 a sponge of the game. He wants to get better 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.080 each time. And me, you know, explained him to understanding 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.080 he has a target on his back. And as you 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.960 mentioned him just going viral. We just came back from 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.200 a big term of down at Hoover and you know, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:42.960 all the cameras around the court now, so you're starting 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.560 to get a lot of the notoriety and a lot 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:45.960 of attention. But for me, I'm just try to keep 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.640 him as humble as possible. He doesn't have social media, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.480 And then when my team is with me that particular weekend, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.839 I shut social media down because I think that's affecting 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.320 these kids to when they don't give it. Damn if 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:57.640 you win. To Losese, like as soon as you get 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.160 out out of the game, they on the ground who 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.680 tagged me, who posted me, was like, that's that's that's 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.480 fucking our young kids' heads up, and that's not what 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:06.800 we allow on our program. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:07.000 No more more. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.600 I like the Jamal Crawford made a post a few 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:14.280 weeks ago about parents and outside noise, and obviously we 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:15.680 came up in a different time. You were a little 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.599 bit younger us, but in the same same kind of 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.560 age group and wave all this. You know again, kids 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.560 can loot me three and done or two and done, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.440 but you'll see a highlight tape up, you know, the 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.920 next second. So what is like your your focus and 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.560 how successful you obviously touched out, how successful hasn't been 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.359 on understanding with the big picture in but also enjoying 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.080 the ride, allowing the kids to enjoy the ride. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.240 Yeah, for me, that's what it's about. Like I said, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.720 I'm pretty strip on the road. Obviously, I'm a lot 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.600 of kids made. You know, a lot of parents may 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.440 send their kids with with just me and the coaches. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.120 So obviously where they're extended, dad's on the road. And 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.520 for me it's it's a great experience because I teach 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.760 them discipline. We go to bed at a certain time, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.800 I take the phones. I said, always say, we don't 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.080 have social media, and it's a business trip kind of 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.400 how we approach it in our game. I try to 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.240 treat them the same level or how we're doing an NBA. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:03.719 It's like I said, we come here, we ain't getting 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.680 swimming pools. We ain't doing this in the third We're 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.280 gonna probably go to movies and sit and relax if 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.240 we get a good time or other than that, we're 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.159 there for business. We watch film more than any probably 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.480 the NBA team combined. I mean we at each game 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.120 because at that age a game, you're learning the game, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.760 so each and for me, instead of arguing with my 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.640 kids back and forth, I just pop the tape in 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.000 and then you know, there's nothing to argue about. I 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.000 have the whole team vote was this a travel? 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:25.679 Was this a foul? 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.240 And they get to coach themselves, and not only you know, 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.960 just hear me thinking I'm just crazy and talking the 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.440 sound all the time. It's like, here's the proof. See 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.080 And then when they know where they get to film 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.360 and they changed their mindset within the game, they know, okay, shit, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.280 I'm have to get up the screen now because last 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.520 time in film we talked about this. So it's easy 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:42.919 for me to teach the kids and I don't have 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.400 to go back and forth with them a lot because 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.040 right after the game we jumped right in the van. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:47.599 We watch it. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.120 I love it, So talk to us about I mean, 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.800 we all grew up playing on the blacktops and playing 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.240 pickup games and there was a little bit of training. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.880 Now it's so much one on one training and then 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.520 just games, and I feel like kids don't really know 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.599 how to play the whole game of basketball. Everyone needs 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.320 the ball in their hands to be effective these days. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.280 So talk to us about kind of just the new 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.600 form of frames, because I feel like kids are very skilled, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.239 and even the younger players in the league super super skilled, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.280 but I feel like they lack just an overall understanding 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:17.840 of the game and sometimes lack a little bit of 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:18.640 IQ as well. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.400 I think the big reason is that because now scoring 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.120 is glorified. The game is pushed so much so if 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.560 you can score, you can play it. You can score, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.640 you can get to the league. It's like I think 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.120 the game is, it's a lost art of actual leaders 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.520 on the court, like myself. You know who can actually 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.440 if a coach got eject that can run the entire game, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.360 you know who to get the ball to. Nowadays, again, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.720 when you're training, you're working out and working out against 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.360 the cone. You know these cones and the games move, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.800 and then it doesn't translate into the game to where 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.960 you're just focused on individual play and don't know how 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.480 to make your teammates better or doing intangibles with things 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.680 that don't show up on ESPN. All the little things 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.880 that make a team click come together. And for me, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.400 like I said, the main thing is just being a leader. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.720 You can't teach the game from just playing or just 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.680 drilling with a trainer four days a week, go back 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.760 and work for us, we hooped, yeah, I mean it 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:08.720 was we hoot more than training. I mean this is 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.000 how it was so uh, these guys don't have the 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.840 opportunity obviously, It's it's not as safe, you know, with 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.560 all the parks and shit clothes, especially back in my neighborhoods. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.320 You can't just go pick get a pickup game, you know, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.320 so it does have to be always a school ball 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.840 game or something that particular nature because of the safety. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.400 But kids still don't play enough, you know, they don't 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.080 play the game enough. They rather train than't play, because again, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.680 training it taught you how to make any game adjustments 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.559 quicker than when you actually get on a game where 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.880 it counts to pick up ball. You can't. You can't relate, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:36.360 you can't. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.240 I feel like there needs a little be a little 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.439 bit more mix up too, because I feel like one 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.079 of the issues is they play a lot of games, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.360 but they're just games, so they're not structured or control. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.120 So I think there needs to be more practice time. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.679 But that's hard if you have a team that has 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.920 kids from different states and in different cities. But I 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.600 feel like, you know, they're either training or they're playing 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.400 actual games. I think there needs to be a little 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.760 bit more control so you can control and help make 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.120 the you know, help correct the mistakes in the games 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.640 before they come habits. So I mean, we got kids 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.520 in it, We're gonna see how it goes. But I mean, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.880 I think our kids have an upper hand because they 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.160 had dads that have been to the top of the 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.080 mountain and understand what it takes to get there. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:13.960 But go back to what you said about what Jamal 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.040 posted and I actually reposted. It is the parents that 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:17.880 are killed in the game. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:19.200 You know. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:20.920 I see so many parents now and just got their 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:22.839 cameras in the stands. But it's for a highy tape 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.000 versus you know, if you're going to record recorders to 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:26.880 teach your kids not to make a highlight tape. And 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.040 then when he has to go against some smoke or 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.920 he fa, he faces challenges. He doesn't know how to 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.480 handle those things. So for me, it is the parents. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:34.960 The parents. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.400 Even on some of my programs, I got four teams now, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.079 you know, don't like the way I may do things. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.920 I'm thinking myself like, well, you came to my program 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.880 for a reason, so let's wish you the best luck 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.960 to you to get out of here with that type 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.079 of mind. So because again everything I'm giving the kids 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.880 and we're taking our time. Obviously we spend a lot 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.400 of money as well paid for it either at all, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.720 So we're taking the time and teaching your kids. You know, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.480 it's either you get out of the program or you 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.640 gotta get out, you know. So it's the parents that 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.439 are kind of watering it down and not being authentic 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:05.160 with their kids. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.480 Last up, Don Breed. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.800 Two of the top five assists leaders in the league 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.040 right now is Saendlers. How do you feel about, you know, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.680 you being one of the point guards, one of the 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.920 real point guards. How do you feel about it not 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.880 being no point guards like, you know, like it's erased 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.040 all the point guards. That's true point guards, you Chris Paul, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.480 it's no more guards like that in the league, very few. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.280 Rather, I mean it's sad. I believe, you know, you know, 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.760 basketball guys appreciate, you know, myself and Chris the way 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.840 we play the game. I believe the right way. You know, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:43.800 it wasn't not that every guard is scoring down is selfish. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.959 But at the same time, the point guard is the 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.840 leader of the floor. He's a extended extension of the 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.480 coach on the floor. And like I said earlier about it, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.280 if a lot of these coaches got thrown out the game, 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.440 point guard wouldnt know how to handle the situation. They 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:54.920 wouldn't know what plays to call down the stretch of 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.240 the games. They would know who would get the ball 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.240 to a certain time. It's different matchup, so you know this, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.800 it's sad the game is gone this way. But again, uh, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.360 the league wanted scoring and they watched you know, one 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.760 hundred and sixty point games. Like you know, there's no 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.760 DEFENSI isn't being you know, cherished, and there's a defensive 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.560 man of war, but nobody really talks about it. It's 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.160 not like that guy's actual defensive player that can stop 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.120 and play both sides. So I know he was talking 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.959 earlier about how Ae and Edwards plays both sides at all. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.360 But guys aren't valued as much. I believe it's like 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.120 they'll say a three and D guy, but the stars 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.599 aren't playing defense, right, the stars aren't the matchups and 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.520 not seeing the tape the other day with him checking PG, yeah, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.920 locking it up and man like he wanted that smoke 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.000 and he said that since us say that he pleas 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:37.520 the guy that plays both sides. So to see him 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.640 actually do this at a young age, uh, you know, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.880 kudos to him. But the point guard is. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.760 Gone and we respect that that. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.640 Now it may come back, but the end of the day. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:48.520 I don't know. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.960 Obviously they're going they're going to European style. They're now 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.680 trying to get to Africa. I mean, they're they're pushing 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.439 the game differently, and I don't think the game is 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.480 being taught or valued as it should be. But you 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.760 know that's the the waivers with. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.280 Teams like Phoenix abandoning the point guard completely. How you 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.000 feel about that, I mean, I think it's gonna be 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:08.719 hard to win that way. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.040 I think it does. You know, everyone wants to be different. Again, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.800 I don't still see them having a leader on the 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.040 floor because again, you got three great first Battle. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.640 Hall of famers know how to get their shot first. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.640 Get that's what that's who they are, and that's okay. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.920 But for me, like I said, that was easy for 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.200 me to manage in the sense, you know, I was 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.679 talked by Doc, great leadership from Sam Caunsell, my Vets, PJ. Brown, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.040 But that was my mindset. You know, I was always 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.959 a selfish player. I wanted to make my teammates around 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.400 me their job easier. No matter how many grates I 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:40.880 played with, I wanted to make them Okay, if you 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.040 average twenty six, let me get you to twenty seven shooting, 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.960 you know, ten more or six more percentags higher than 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.199 the fields, you know what I mean. So it was like, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.520 I want to make the game easier, and that's how 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.960 I study their game and study my game to make 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.280 sure it mix. It went well. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.520 P was already a thirty point score, but then you 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.240 getting them six to eighties. Was a game that was 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.600 a quick, easy party on us. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.800 It's okay, let me go to pe right now. Now 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.600 I get Now he gets two free throws. Now he's 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.160 in the rhythm. So it's like this will be able 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.360 to manipulate the game that way. I'm pretty sure nobody 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.000 really thinks that in that way. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.480 Now, walk me through the first you know, football scripted, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.800 the first you know, first two drives are scripted. Walk 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.320 me through the first three or four minutes of the game. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.480 When you have yourself, Ray, Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.920 and Kendrick Perkins on the floor. What are you looking 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.560 for and how are you looking to start the game. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.320 I'm looking and dominating the paint. Get Ray wide up 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.600 and look early as possible. It depends on the matchups, 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:35.080 you know, I mean. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.280 If you got you have to give me a team 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.400 to where Okay, if who's the weakest link, you know, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.600 we're gonna attack this guy, particularly on defense. If it's 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.120 a star player, we're playing against Vince Card, I might 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.880 want Pe to go Advince the first lead. Again, we're 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.600 gonna set the tone early. He's gonna pick up a 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.839 foul and now now I'm going right back at him, 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.840 or it just depends on how the game flow. If 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.319 that superstar I got a first foul, Doc, don't you 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:54.480 have to talk to me. We're going right back to 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.720 Whether I'm coming out of pick and roll and trying to, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.160 you know, bump into his leg to get the foul, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.120 or we're trying to post, you know, whatever the case 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:02.400 may be, I'm trying to get him a second five 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.160 out of the game earlier. That way, they have to 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.400 make a quicker adjustment than we do when you go 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.280 in the ticket. I mean, it just depends. If you 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:10.959 obviously beat some man down the floor, I'm going to 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.480 him first. If we want to go inside, then obviously 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.120 it's if we're going against a Rasheed or mcdce, I'm 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.880 going to ticket. If I'm going against Kevin Love, I'm 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.760 going to Kevin. Who else is back in the day 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.280 playing and if I'm going against Tim Duncan, we're going 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.280 to We're going a ticket, you know what I mean. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.440 So it's like whoever had that matchup the first play 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.360 of the game. Hopefully we were trying to go at 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:28.760 that person. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.600 This is what I did not is though, because I played, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.280 y'all a lot. Y'all gave Perkins bone first player of 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.400 the game a lot. Absolutely, the first player the game. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:36.920 We're gona give him his bone because he might not 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.280 see no more unless you run the floor. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.080 But if you if you give him that, now he's 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:40.760 gonna run through a wall. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:41.240 Yeah. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.520 Yeah, it's likestanding who your personality is. Like I said, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:44.840 so it doesn't always have to be the Big three. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:47.680 I don't think I ever got a first play of game, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.760 but I was okay again, I wanted the first sister 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.400 the game. But now it was like I said, it was. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.520 It was fun playing with that group of men, and 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.880 how Doc got us to buy in so quickly we 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.200 was able to get it done. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.560 Someone who has a very high q IQ of the game. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.000 And really, when you say extension of the coach on 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.960 the floor, like to every sense of the word, that's 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.000 what you were No one can figure out Jokic. What 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.880 would you do if you were coaching against him to 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:13.840 try to slow him down? 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.120 First of all, you have to have the personnel. I 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.360 think I think the last team to slow them down 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.200 was us in the bubble with the white and I 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:22.960 think we actually we had the white javel and we 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.600 had a D so we had three seven footas that 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.200 we can throw at him. So I think the closest 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.640 team is Cat healthy. He's done for this time right now, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.440 he'll be back. Yeah, yeah, So I mean I think 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.440 the team has the best shot, It would probably be 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.040 the two footas that you know, Minnesotas can throw at him. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.200 But again, if I was a West Coast team, my 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.200 two big would probably be watching joking the entire year. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.080 You know, if I'm prepping that way, I'm studying all 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.320