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Speaker 3: conspiracy realists. That's right, we're back with more listener mail.
Speaker 3: We are going to discuss telepathy. Actual telepathy. That's weird.
Speaker 3: That's a thing. We've got a wholesome conspiracy from schools. Seriously, no,
Speaker 3: this one will it's a little bit of levity. We
Speaker 3: got some great responses to our earlier question about the
Speaker 3: voter age. Before we do any of that, we have
Speaker 3: some concerning news or what would you call it.
Speaker 2: Matt, it is I was trying to make a cow
Speaker 2: reference or a bird reference. I don't know, no, you're
Speaker 2: gonna love this one. Oh boy. Birds are sick and
Speaker 2: their sickness is infecting everybody else, and we get We've
Speaker 2: been kind of watching things in the news about this
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty two PS, but we haven't covered it
Speaker 2: in full and Plant Queen reached out to us with
Speaker 2: the reason why we should cover it, and we'll get
Speaker 2: into that in just a second. Here's the message from
Speaker 2: Plant Queen.
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, this is you can call me the Plank.
Speaker 4: I hail from Colorado. I have been kind of listening
Speaker 4: to you guys a podcast for many moons now many years,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to call in for the first time, but.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody's talking about something that should.
Speaker 6: Be talked about. In March of this year, bird flu
Speaker 6: transferred to farm animals and is now making its way
Speaker 6: into the dairy products. I just wanted to double check
Speaker 6: and make sure that I have the states right, but
Speaker 6: it seems that samples were tested and on Thursday, bird
Speaker 6: flu had been detected in thirty three herds in eight
Speaker 6: states Idaho, Kansas, Michigan, New Mexico, Carolina.
Speaker 5: South Dakota, Ohio, and Texas. I just think it's pretty
Speaker 5: interesting that this hasn't actually hit me in news yet,
Speaker 5: and I feel like maybe you should have a quick
Speaker 5: discussion about this on air and maybe track this a
Speaker 5: little bit. Anyways, guys, thanks for all you do for us.
Speaker 5: And I would die if I heard this on air,
Speaker 5: says out there, and I hope the stares back invite.
Speaker 3: Oh oh don't, I don't die.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, everything's fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 7: I knew the birds were going to be what killed
Speaker 7: us ultimately, man, I knew it of any colonists.
Speaker 2: In day one.
Speaker 3: All right, our our individual or personal biases, be they
Speaker 3: what they may, or biases whatever. Thank you Plant Queen
Speaker 3: for writing in and Matt as as you mentioned on Aaron,
Speaker 3: as we've discussed off air, we're the type of folks
Speaker 3: who spend some time thinking about things like this.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, because look, part of our jobs is to
Speaker 2: look through the news like constantly, always, we don't stop.
Speaker 2: So if something hits, let's say, an outfit like Reiter's
Speaker 2: or I don't know what, a science alert or a
Speaker 2: scientific American, we're going to take note. And this subject
Speaker 2: has been written about Plant Queen extensively, but for some reason,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't get the traction. The old bird flu
Speaker 2: doesn't seem as scary anymore. After ye old pandemic, I
Speaker 2: would pause it. So I think this is a little
Speaker 2: under the radar, legit scary thing that's coming our way.
Speaker 2: We can well, I okay. We tried to gather several
Speaker 2: of these sources right where we can kind of illustrate
Speaker 2: why it seems like it's getting a bit more of
Speaker 2: a hairy situation day by day. So we're gonna read
Speaker 2: some of the headlines and then we'll jump into these articles.
Speaker 2: So this is a headline from Reuters written on May one,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And before we get into that, guys,
Speaker 2: I got to give this little piece of information. Plant
Speaker 2: Queen called in on April twenty sixth of this year,
Speaker 2: and she was when she said Thursday, the testing and
Speaker 2: the results on Thursday. That was April twenty fifth, So
Speaker 2: like just just like what last week as we're recording
Speaker 2: this basically pretty much last week. So this article from
Speaker 2: Reuters May first state, this is the headline US bird
Speaker 2: flu outbreak spreads to chickens cattle, raises concerns over human infections,
Speaker 2: which is something we've always talked about. What happens when
Speaker 2: an infection jumps species, right, or you know, jumping from
Speaker 2: a bird to another bird like a chicken. Right, No,
Speaker 2: that's concerning, but okay, that kind of makes sense. Jumping
Speaker 2: from a bird to a mammal like you know, cows cattle,
Speaker 2: much more concerning. Jumping from cattle mammals than to humans.
Speaker 2: Quite concerning.
Speaker 3: It means younatic mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So that just throwing that out there. That was one
Speaker 2: of the things. Here's another really concerning one from Science Alert.
Speaker 2: This was also on May first. Bird flu in raw
Speaker 2: cow milk, so it's transferred now, you know, through the
Speaker 2: cow via the milk, right, has killed farm animals in
Speaker 2: a concerning first which includes a bunch of cats that
Speaker 2: were living on a farm who were consuming the milk
Speaker 2: from the cows. They got bird flu and a bunch
Speaker 2: of them died.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: It's interesting, Like you know, raw milk is a thing.
Speaker 7: It's a sort of a controversial thing where some people
Speaker 7: like the idea of raw milk or it hasn't been
Speaker 7: pasteurized or you get it directly from the cow, and
Speaker 7: it's actually, I don't think entirely legal in some places,
Speaker 7: but I do have to wonder if pasteurization deals with
Speaker 7: this or are we really mainly only concerned with it
Speaker 7: getting into humans.
Speaker 2: By people drinking the raw milk.
Speaker 7: It's not that it would necessarily make it to supermarket
Speaker 7: shelves per se.
Speaker 2: According to the FDA, I'm glad you asked that, Noel.
Speaker 2: According to the FDA, the pasteurization process in American milk
Speaker 2: that's being produced by these cows that are infected with
Speaker 2: bird flu is fine to drink because of that pasturization process.
Speaker 2: Everything's fine, according to the FDA. We don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about a thing. We're good to go. We are
Speaker 2: talking about raw milk here, the thing that spread from
Speaker 2: the cows to these cats. I'm going to read from
Speaker 2: this article though, because it really I want to say, Yeah, FDA,
Speaker 2: you're right. Pasteurization process is there for reason. It probably works,
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, it does. We probably shouldn't be that concerned.
Speaker 2: But this is why it's concerning to me. This from
Speaker 2: the article. In mid March, a mysterious disease began to
Speaker 2: spread among cows at a North Texas dairy farm. Just
Speaker 2: a few days later, cats on the farm started acting strangely.
Speaker 2: Their eyes and noses leaked copiously. They walked incessantly in circles.
Speaker 2: Their bodies began to grow stiff, they lost their sight
Speaker 2: and their coordination, and then they began to die.
Speaker 3: Is this a horror story that I wrote and forgot?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Well, it's one of the most horrible things, especially if
Speaker 2: you're a lover of cats, as we three are. This
Speaker 2: is a horrifying thing, right, But it gets worse, you, guys,
Speaker 2: it gets worse you. Then jump over to MSNBC. The
Speaker 2: title of their article is, which was posted on April thirtieth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The bird flu is uncontrolled and it
Speaker 2: keeps showing up in the scariest places. Maybe a scare
Speaker 2: tactic to get you to read the article. Feels like
Speaker 2: it kind of. But according to this article, the FDA,
Speaker 2: the Food and Drug Administration, revealed last week as that
Speaker 2: article was written, that it had found traces of the
Speaker 2: bird flu virus in twenty percent of a nationally representative
Speaker 2: sample of commercially sold pasteurized milk.
Speaker 7: Wait, but I thought the FDA said we were good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, So so it's one of those things like,
Speaker 8: can I actually get the bird flu from just buying
Speaker 8: some milk out of a store and taking it home
Speaker 8: and drinking it, or maybe God forbid giving it to
Speaker 8: my children.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's scary. That's genuinely scary. It continues on down
Speaker 2: because there are now there appear to be confirmed cases
Speaker 2: where this it's I think it's five one if you
Speaker 2: want to refer to it as the specific thing. This
Speaker 2: has traversed from cattle into a human being at least
Speaker 2: once or twice. There's one Texas farm where a dairy
Speaker 2: worker appears to have been infected with this H five
Speaker 2: N one virus from the cattle. And this comes to
Speaker 2: us from statnews dot com. You can find in other places.
Speaker 2: There's a piece in Fortune. The title of that is
Speaker 2: Texas Vet who cares for forty thousand cattle said nearly
Speaker 2: every farm that had cows sick with bird flu also
Speaker 2: had sick workers, which again, who knows that's a Fortune article.
Speaker 2: I couldn't gain access to it, guys, because I'm not
Speaker 2: registered with them or subscribed to Fortune or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But you can on stat news find a free article
Speaker 2: which goes through some of this stuff, and it cites
Speaker 2: a report in the New England Journal of Medicine that
Speaker 2: was put out Goodness last Friday as we're recording this
Speaker 2: on May third, that talks about this person. It's a
Speaker 2: it's a human being and quote unidentified man who has
Speaker 2: symptoms of this bird flu and there was a potential
Speaker 2: or possible rout of infection via cattle. That doesn't mean
Speaker 2: they've conclusively determined that this man got bird flu from
Speaker 2: one of the cows. But again concerning we should at
Speaker 2: least be thinking about it.
Speaker 7: And Matt, isn't there discussion with the WHO and the
Speaker 7: scientific community about how the next big pandemic will likely
Speaker 7: be caused by flu viruses?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a zoonotic flu. What we call this infection whatever,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the words would be.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. You know, Influenza is treatable, but it's
Speaker 3: very difficult to wipe it out, and it evolves or
Speaker 3: mutates at such a rapid rate. There's always you know,
Speaker 3: how like you go to a gas station and there's
Speaker 3: always a couple of mixtape by people you've never heard of.
Speaker 3: Influenza is always dropping mixtapes. That's the reason why it
Speaker 3: remains such a scary thing. You know, it's a you
Speaker 3: might be a vegetarian or a Vegan in the crowd
Speaker 3: this evening and saying, well, I don't you know, I
Speaker 3: don't interact with dairy as an industry, as a product,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But this can still hit you to your point, Matt.
Speaker 3: And as you can see, our larger concern plant Queen
Speaker 3: is the idea of becoming zoonotic, because once it jumps
Speaker 3: that chasm, right, once it mutates to that level, which
Speaker 3: it can very easily do, this is a non zero possibility.
Speaker 3: Then the next question is how communicable does it become
Speaker 3: amid the human population.
Speaker 2: You know, and how dangerous is it once you get infected? Right, right?
Speaker 7: And that MSNBC article linked out to another piece from
Speaker 7: The Guardian from April twentieth of this year by Robin McKees,
Speaker 7: the science editor or one of the science editors for
Speaker 7: The Guardian, and it says an international survey to be
Speaker 7: published next weekend will reveal that fifty seven percent of
Speaker 7: senior disease experts now think that the strain of flu
Speaker 7: virus will be the cause of the next global outbreak
Speaker 7: of deadly infectious illness. And that is certainly tied to
Speaker 7: and part of this bird flu conversation.
Speaker 2: Avian strain man, Guys, there are too many specifics I
Speaker 2: think even to get into today. I wonder if it's
Speaker 2: time to do another full on bird flu episode where
Speaker 2: we can go through the entire timeline, which you can
Speaker 2: find by the way. There are some great sites. I'd
Speaker 2: go to the poultry site dot com. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: They've got the dates written out, starting back in February
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two when there was an outbreak of
Speaker 2: this what they called highly pathogenic avian flu in an
Speaker 2: Indiana turkey flock. And it was the first case since
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two of this type of infection and some
Speaker 2: kind of commercial what they call poultry population. And it
Speaker 2: follows it along where it appears to be spreading more
Speaker 2: and more and more to other types of farm animals
Speaker 2: again including cattle and the cats that live on that
Speaker 2: farm and now humans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this also goes back. This is a modern
Speaker 3: iteration of a larger pattern. We know, it goes back
Speaker 3: to eighteen seventy eight when many people listening tonight were
Speaker 3: not alive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, here's a really creepy thing in the timeline, guys.
Speaker 2: On April twenty fifth, the country of Columbia became the
Speaker 2: first country to restrict the import of beef and beef
Speaker 2: products coming from the United States due to bird flu
Speaker 2: in those dairy cows.
Speaker 3: A headline that might sound counterintuitive to many of us
Speaker 3: listening along, But as you point out a Stuteley Plant queen,
Speaker 3: it's because of the sort of chain of transmission, right,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not and true to be fair, sometimes
Speaker 3: you'll see kind of constructed rationale for banning imports or
Speaker 3: exports of things because it's part of a trade war.
Speaker 3: But in this case the concern is real. It's not.
Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with or very little to
Speaker 3: do with the financial relationship between Colombia and the United States,
Speaker 3: and that instance, it is because the nation of Columbia
Speaker 3: doesn't want to be ground zero for some crazy, unbeatable influenza.
Speaker 2: Yeah that you know, ends up turning us all into zombies.
Speaker 2: Just kidding, just kidding, that's not gonna happen. We're good.
Speaker 2: This is not the last of us. Now. One last
Speaker 2: thing to go back to that April twenty third instance
Speaker 2: where the US Food and Drug Administration found those avan
Speaker 2: influenza particles within pasteurized milk samples. They did say after
Speaker 2: finding that even the FDA said no, the milk supply
Speaker 2: in the United States is safe because of pasteurization, even
Speaker 2: though they found the particles in some pasteurized milk. Okay,
Speaker 2: just leaving that there. Great, We'll be back with more
Speaker 2: messages from you.
Speaker 7: And we've returned with another message from you. Yes you
Speaker 7: will repeat a fender yessense mean we actually heard from
Speaker 7: this individual last week. I think I had an email
Speaker 7: from GP Scooch and our last listener mail. You don't
Speaker 7: typically do back to back features of our wonderful listeners here,
Speaker 7: but this one was too good to pass up and
Speaker 7: too topical given the current political climate and an election
Speaker 7: cycle and all of that.
Speaker 3: Also, to be clear, he's not joking in this.
Speaker 2: One, that's right. Yes, this is a very very thoughtful
Speaker 2: This is a.
Speaker 7: Longing, a bit of a long one, but I think
Speaker 7: absolutely worth it. I'm just going to read it straight
Speaker 7: through and then we'll just discuss. So, dear parasocial friends,
Speaker 7: the general rule of thumb, I waited at least twenty
Speaker 7: four hours before writing a response to a question or
Speaker 7: statement that is ignited a base reaction. Your question about
Speaker 7: placing an upper limit on voting age elicited such a reaction,
Speaker 7: and yes, I waited the twenty four hours. With the
Speaker 7: passage of the twenty sixth Amendment in nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 7: I was among a group of new voters falling in
Speaker 7: the range of over eighteen but less than twenty one
Speaker 7: at the time, I can assure you we received no
Speaker 7: instructions or guidance on how to exercise this new power.
Speaker 7: We simply did as everyone before us had done, pay
Speaker 7: attention to what interested us, be it local, state, or national,
Speaker 7: and responded with a ballot that reflected our position. Also,
Speaker 7: nothing happened that suddenly made us any smarter, better at
Speaker 7: decision making, more learned in the steps of practical and
Speaker 7: critical thinking, or any other aspect of our lives one
Speaker 7: would hope for from an informed electorate. Our society uses
Speaker 7: artificial age measurements for many of our daily rights and responsibilities.
Speaker 7: These age limits must be reached to drive, to consume alcohol,
Speaker 7: to make contracts, to own guns, to enlist in the military,
Speaker 7: to hold certain jobs, and so on, to rent a car.
Speaker 2: I might add to.
Speaker 7: Prove how artificial these are, a kid in Kansas can
Speaker 7: get a special permit to drive for very restricted and
Speaker 7: specific purposes at age fourteen. Surrounding states are age fifteen
Speaker 7: or sixteen, so are Kansas kids more mature and responsible.
Speaker 7: In Missouri, a server in a restaurant can take the
Speaker 7: order for alcohol at age eighteen, which means they are
Speaker 7: selling it, but they must be twenty one to prepare
Speaker 7: that same order and to deliver it to the customer.
Speaker 7: This means dining establishment might need a special person to
Speaker 7: deliver drinks one over twenty one. We all know people
Speaker 7: in their thirties who we regret can drive, own guns, drink.
Speaker 2: And vote. You're here.
Speaker 7: We know people who should never be allowed to do
Speaker 7: any of these things at any age. Thus far, I
Speaker 7: have only discussed the lower age limit because that is,
Speaker 7: in my opinion, where most people have had personal experience
Speaker 7: with these regulations. Of course, we all know people in
Speaker 7: their eighties or nineties who should no longer be driving
Speaker 7: an automobile. But we also know people in their forties
Speaker 7: who should not be driving either. There are no upper
Speaker 7: limits for holding political or appointed office in the United States.
Speaker 7: Maybe there should be, but this could most easily be
Speaker 7: addressed through term limits, not age restrictions. Just as there
Speaker 7: is no standard for maturity in an American eighteen year old.
Speaker 7: There is no standard ninety year old or eighty year
Speaker 7: old or.
Speaker 2: Seventy two year old.
Speaker 7: At this later age, I am more active and am
Speaker 7: aware of issues than many of my associates who are
Speaker 7: twenty or more years younger. I know people in their
Speaker 7: nineties more active and aware than I. The Constitution prohibits
Speaker 7: testing of literacy or wealth qualifications for voters, it stands
Speaker 7: to reason that mental competency tests would also be prohibited,
Speaker 7: especially in light of the fact that some members of
Speaker 7: our Congress and some candidates expound some of the weirdest
Speaker 7: I have seen or heard in nearly five decades of education. No, gentlemen,
Speaker 7: there can be no upper limit on voting, or you
Speaker 7: may lose a large block of seasoned, experienced Americans who
Speaker 7: do use critical thinking and can apply what they have
Speaker 7: learned to the ballot. Just to prove how seriously we
Speaker 7: take the issue, there are several petitions circulating to remove
Speaker 7: the Lego limitation of ninety nine years as the upper
Speaker 7: age limit on their product. Lego like the toy. I'm
Speaker 7: sorry some might take issue with me calling it a toy,
Speaker 7: the construction, hobby project.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 7: As always, I love what you are doing. Have converted
Speaker 7: many students to avid listeners after my Bob Bardella and
Speaker 7: Obscene Clone Fall letters made it onto the air well
Speaker 7: thank you. It seems to impress students more than a
Speaker 7: collection of degrees or published works.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 7: Who knew approvals for everything? As al a is great
Speaker 7: Grandpa GGP Scooch. But oh man, it's so easy to
Speaker 7: get caught up in like one aspect of something like
Speaker 7: like age limits, where it seems to make perfect sense,
Speaker 7: but then you realize how many other situations it applies to,
Speaker 7: and how it's a total throwing the baby out with
Speaker 7: the bathwater situation, which you know, it does make it
Speaker 7: difficult to have laws that cover all the things, all
Speaker 7: of the possible scenarios. So I'm not saying it's easy
Speaker 7: to make laws that are appropriately kind of scalable. I
Speaker 7: know it's not. But we certainly see overreaching in a
Speaker 7: lot of lawmakers that you know, we'll certainly do something
Speaker 7: with one intent that it has all these other unintended consequences.
Speaker 7: So I think maybe I was the one kind of
Speaker 7: beating the drum for like upper age limits, you know,
Speaker 7: for folks that maybe are no longer in a situation
Speaker 7: where they're able to exercise that critical thinking, or they
Speaker 7: may have gone down some sort of gnarly rabbit hole,
Speaker 7: whether it be via isolation or or some sort of
Speaker 7: onset of perhaps a cognitive disorder. But there's so many
Speaker 7: others that are absolutely the standard bearer of democracy in
Speaker 7: that age group that we would also be losing. So
Speaker 7: one would hope that per gg p Scooch's point that
Speaker 7: it's sort of there's a balancing that takes place, it
Speaker 7: kind of an equalizing there, and I would like to
Speaker 7: think that's true, but I don't know, Guys. The lower
Speaker 7: age limit thing has always been very issue to me
Speaker 7: because it's true, like I have a fifteen year old
Speaker 7: who I know to be much more mature than a
Speaker 7: lot of eighteen year olds, you know, who are in
Speaker 7: their peer group or friend group, and he really does
Speaker 7: so many factors that lead to maturity that can come
Speaker 7: at a much earlier age or in a much later age,
Speaker 7: or like arrested development or whatever. But those limits are
Speaker 7: still in place, and you know, some people might reach
Speaker 7: the age or they are able to exercise the vote,
Speaker 7: but maybe don't have the information and they're kind of
Speaker 7: muddying the waters a little bit, but then one would
Speaker 7: hope that there's a balance and sync factor there too,
Speaker 7: So I don't know, what do you guys think. This
Speaker 7: is a really thoughtful analysis from scoos here.
Speaker 3: Yeah ggp. Scooch First, thank you again for the obscene
Speaker 3: clone falls as I said earlier, and thank you also
Speaker 3: for this very well written and thorough and fascinating well
Speaker 3: reasoned I would say reply to my original question about
Speaker 3: upper age limits for voting. We've discussed this a bit
Speaker 3: on the show, the idea, the relatively arbitrary nature of
Speaker 3: some of those lower end voting restrictions or ritualized rights
Speaker 3: of passage. You know, everybody remembers I imagine the big
Speaker 3: kerfuffle when people were getting drafted into the military before
Speaker 3: they were legally able to do other stuff besides die
Speaker 3: in a war. Also want to shout out how our
Speaker 3: Palell super producer Paul Michig controlled decand who did indeed
Speaker 3: get his learner's permit. He has revealed this at the
Speaker 3: age of fourteen because.
Speaker 7: Of the stipulation the scoot was talking about.
Speaker 3: And then Paul also has pointed out there's the farmer's permit,
Speaker 3: which you can get at age fourteen, the difference being
Speaker 3: that with a learner's or driver's ED learner's permit at fourteen,
Speaker 3: you have to drive with an adult in the front
Speaker 3: seat with you, but a farmer's permit allows you to
Speaker 3: drive by yourself so long as you are going to
Speaker 3: or from a farming job or doing farm related work.
Speaker 3: And I also have a bit of a past with that,
Speaker 3: because you know, if you're out in the country in
Speaker 3: many parts of America, we'll just see a kid on
Speaker 3: the road. Sometimes he's not a John Deere tractor, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, shout out to tractor supply.
Speaker 2: Don't mean I'm sorry, guys, just really quickly. My eight
Speaker 2: year old the other day driving when I picked him
Speaker 2: up from daycare, and he hopped in the front seat
Speaker 2: before I got even into the car, and he was like,
Speaker 2: all right, Dad, so when are you gonna teach me
Speaker 2: how to drive? I'm ready? And you know, he can't
Speaker 2: touch the pedals, but he knew all the mechanisms. He
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, that's the gas, that's the break,
Speaker 2: this is how you steer, this is how you put
Speaker 2: it in drive. And I was just like, nah, man,
Speaker 2: not yet, Nah, sorry.
Speaker 3: Get one of those little cars, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: little kid cars.
Speaker 2: He's too big for most of them. I'll find something,
Speaker 2: you'll find Muslim are costs prohibitive, But give.
Speaker 3: Him something that's like not quite a real car, like
Speaker 3: a Miata.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, send the email a Mini Cooper.
Speaker 3: But those are no longer mini. Look at the old
Speaker 3: Mini Coopers.
Speaker 2: Look at the all right?
Speaker 3: They are?
Speaker 2: They are large now, aren't they? One thing I can't
Speaker 2: remember because we did talk about this, right, we like
Speaker 2: mentioned Okay, so did I tell you the quick story
Speaker 2: about visiting my cousins. I think I maybe did? I
Speaker 2: want to echo something that Scooch said there about knowings
Speaker 2: there's no standard ninety eighty or seventy year old. So
Speaker 2: I was in North Georgia visiting my mid to late
Speaker 2: seventy year old cousins. And they they're amazing. They're selling
Speaker 2: a house. They're really super cool. They are feeling their
Speaker 2: age a little bit due to some health issues. Right.
Speaker 2: They told me that their friend is showing up, and
Speaker 2: they told me she's a little older. This Lincoln SUV
Speaker 2: rolls into their driveway and out pops this lady that's
Speaker 2: just like, oh, hey, y'all, how you doing, and just
Speaker 2: like super vibrant lively, she is ninety four years old yea,
Speaker 2: and I would have eff I would never have guessed
Speaker 2: that she was that age. And again it's just that
Speaker 2: point of like the age really doesn't have anything to
Speaker 2: do with it. No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7: And we're talking about mitigating other mitigating circumstances that could
Speaker 7: happen to anybody at any age.
Speaker 3: Any Yeah, there's not a one size fits all, even
Speaker 3: in a relatively harmonicrogenous civilization like think of Japan. Right,
Speaker 3: even when people will tend to share more genetic factors
Speaker 3: than they would in a nation like the United States,
Speaker 3: you still can't account for the case by case variables.
Speaker 3: I did drop a little bit of a trick there, Scooch,
Speaker 3: and I think you're picking up on it. The arbitrary
Speaker 3: concept of what age is or is not appropriate to
Speaker 3: engage in things like driving or voting, or joining the
Speaker 3: military and so on, that sort of stuff. In the
Speaker 3: case of voting, I would argue, is compounded by the
Speaker 3: fact that voting is a right that can be removed
Speaker 3: in the US right if you have a felony conviction, etc. However,
Speaker 3: it is not an obligation. And I yet again say
Speaker 3: that there is a lot of sand to requiring people
Speaker 3: to vote, you know, because if you're part of a niche,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like you're part of the club, right,
Speaker 3: you got a required to pay taxes. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: you gotta pay taxes. So do you choose taxation without representation?
Speaker 3: That's a question. So people got really up their butts
Speaker 3: about in seventeen seventy six or so.
Speaker 7: And you don't think though, perhaps the lack of a
Speaker 7: you know, mandatory vote isn't in some way convenient for
Speaker 7: politicians who maybe would rather some people not vote, or
Speaker 7: they're like depending on that complicity in order to help
Speaker 7: get elected because they know that it's easier to fire
Speaker 7: up a zealous base than it is to like, you know,
Speaker 7: convert people that are maybe not interested.
Speaker 3: It's a bag of badgers. Yeah, it's a complicated thing.
Speaker 3: There's not really we don't know the answers, folks. You
Speaker 3: tell us, fellow conspiracy realist, how you would solve for
Speaker 3: more equitable voting situation, more equitable society. It's a question
Speaker 3: that's haunted the humans since they started being people. But
Speaker 3: the other issue here, you know, you're absolutely right. For
Speaker 3: some bad faith actors, knowing that people will not vote
Speaker 3: is a tremendous power, especially when added on to Jerry
Speaker 3: Mandarin and other very unethical practices.
Speaker 2: However, mandatory to vote a lot of other countries.
Speaker 7: Australia is one, Argentina, Belgium, Olivia, Brazil, Congo Costa Rica,
Speaker 7: a lot of places that we would consider third world countries.
Speaker 2: Quote unquote, you.
Speaker 3: Know it's in cold war nomenclature.
Speaker 7: I know, I'm just saying it's still thrown around.
Speaker 2: But guys, imagine you're up there, you know you're going,
Speaker 2: you're up for election, you control part of the government.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you ensure that those informed
Speaker 2: people are informed in the right ways that you want
Speaker 2: them to be. What if get past it? I feel
Speaker 2: like we need something. I don't know what it would
Speaker 2: be or what you would call it, but like some
Speaker 2: form of separate voting block of people that takes the
Speaker 2: suggested vote of all the other people and then they set.
Speaker 7: Learned collegiate type never going to.
Speaker 2: Work proxy votes. Let's take more of the proxy situation.
Speaker 3: Also. The other issue here, which I believe you have
Speaker 3: quite astutely anticipated, Scooch, is that we cannot return to
Speaker 3: the days of pulling test. We cannot practice that. Sorry,
Speaker 3: it's a look. If everybody was nice and acting in
Speaker 3: good faith, then that would be fine. It would be
Speaker 3: amazing if people had the time and the opportunity and
Speaker 3: the impetus to research the specific issues that they're voting on.
Speaker 3: But to be quite honest with you, many times in
Speaker 3: the United States, someone goes into do their bit right,
Speaker 3: their their civic duty, and they vote, and they know
Speaker 3: a couple of the questions that they want to weigh
Speaker 3: in on, and then they get hit with all these
Speaker 3: other weird questions, often phrased in misleading ways. Do you
Speaker 3: not approve of a following tax relief for small maritime
Speaker 3: craft if it is added to a municipal tax totally
Speaker 3: the final thing subdivided over the seventeen years, And then
Speaker 3: you're like, bro, you think about the last time you
Speaker 3: saw a boat.
Speaker 7: The ones among us who do all the homework possible
Speaker 7: still get thrown by those kinds of questions. You think
Speaker 7: you're going in fully, you know, educated, ready to exercise
Speaker 7: your civic duty, and then you every time, we'll get
Speaker 7: a handful of these WTF moments where you're like, I
Speaker 7: think this is right, but sometimes it's worded in a
Speaker 7: way that's borderline intended to trick.
Speaker 3: Decision trium, you know what I mean. Hit the electorate
Speaker 3: with a semi colon just in the middle of the question.
Speaker 2: Just right in Kanye West.
Speaker 3: That's what I do, or what my best friend and
Speaker 3: I have done for many years. And write your palin
Speaker 3: for a local municipal position that you do not understand.
Speaker 3: Shout out, Corey Oliver, give me a comptroller one day.
Speaker 7: No man only just figured out what a controller actually does.
Speaker 3: It took us a while.
Speaker 2: I could see Corey being a great comptroller.
Speaker 7: I got the gift to gab that's for sure. Is
Speaker 7: that necessary for comptroller.
Speaker 2: Number one thing?
Speaker 3: But we seriously, we like parliamentarian, we cannot overemphasize, uh,
Speaker 3: the the importance of not returning to polling tests. They
Speaker 3: have historically, at least in this country, only been used
Speaker 3: to disenfranchise people. And we also, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 3: still on the fence about forcing citizens to vote. I
Speaker 3: think it's worth a shot, Like you said, Noel, it has,
Speaker 3: it has worked in other countries. But then also you
Speaker 3: run the we run the possibility the risk of capturing
Speaker 3: blocks of voters and sending them in to vote, not
Speaker 3: their conscience, but to vote on their marching orders. You know,
Speaker 3: that's already a problem here. What happens when people have
Speaker 3: to vote and they just say, someone tell me what
Speaker 3: to do, don't make me think about it.
Speaker 7: Well, I think that was exactly a shot in the
Speaker 7: arm that we needed from gp GGP Scooch. So thank
Speaker 7: you very very much for the email itself and for
Speaker 7: you know, giving us such a great jumping off point
Speaker 7: for this conversation. I do think I don't know man
Speaker 7: mandatory voting. The more I think about it is, the
Speaker 7: more like all of the things that we just discussed,
Speaker 7: there might be an episode in there somewhere, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's certainly something that we've talked about in
Speaker 7: the past, but there might be a way of getting
Speaker 7: into this, you know, once election season comes around, you know,
Speaker 7: to kind of explore some of the more niche ins
Speaker 7: and outs of the history of why is voting in
Speaker 7: this country the way that it is?
Speaker 3: Tell you what, let's vote about it off here?
Speaker 2: Oh and why do I always experience voters remorse? You
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Is that a thing? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: think it is okay. It's like buyer's remorse, but it's
Speaker 2: like after you vote it and you're like, ah, dang it.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Well, it's sort of like that moment, like
Speaker 7: the opposite of deja vu. It's the French concept of
Speaker 7: the spirit of the staircase, the moment you've you've not
Speaker 7: said the smart thing and you're gone. Then you come
Speaker 7: up with the smartest possible thing. But it's totally too late.
Speaker 3: I should have said that lawyer was working pro boner.
Speaker 7: Let's take a quick pause and come up with some
Speaker 7: more spirit of the staircase zingers that we can have
Speaker 7: in our back pocket, and then we'll be back with
Speaker 7: another piece of listener mail.
Speaker 3: And we have returned to the listener mail, and a
Speaker 3: wholesome letter from home. Our listener mail here comes from
Speaker 3: Jay Connor, who says, hello, my gents, with a zee.
Speaker 3: You may call me Jay Connor, longtime listener, longtime fan.
Speaker 3: As the Western public is distracted by Taylor Swift and
Speaker 3: the multiple wars in the East, major breakthroughs in technology
Speaker 3: continued to be made, Advances that will change our society
Speaker 3: and flip the world economy upside down. I'm sure more
Speaker 3: people would care that twenty percent of jobs will be
Speaker 3: affected by AI and automation by twenty thirty five and
Speaker 3: fifty percent of jobs by twenty fifty if we were
Speaker 3: not conveniently oversaturated with information on a daily basis, or
Speaker 3: the public understood predetermined media celebrity fawning amplified non critical
Speaker 3: issues and controversies, and you know, world incidents are sometimes
Speaker 3: timed to correspond with technological revelations or more commonly, a
Speaker 3: divulge of information damaging to the interest of whichever respective
Speaker 3: ruling establishment. To break that down and saying celebrity celebrity
Speaker 3: like hubbubs, you know, Taylor Swift, discourse, Drake getting slapped
Speaker 3: by k dot and the latest in the latest hip
Speaker 3: hop beef Team k Dot. By the way, what he's
Speaker 3: saying is sometimes this occurs such that other things can
Speaker 3: slide under the radar, just like that new Manta drone
Speaker 3: out there water and they're asking you to look at
Speaker 3: the right hand and pay no attention to the left.
Speaker 3: And I think that's something we can agree with on
Speaker 3: this show, right, would you say that happens?
Speaker 2: How about this? To my perception, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it is purposefully done, right, because you
Speaker 2: would have in order to prove that, you would have
Speaker 2: to actually make those connections that seem so like obvious, right,
Speaker 2: But there's no actual connective tissue other than you know,
Speaker 2: oh well, we know about it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm wearing a trucker hat today and I'm like,
Speaker 3: we know what's going on.
Speaker 2: That's an awesome trucker hat too.
Speaker 3: Shout out to our pal for the locals number four,
Speaker 3: our buddy Harold so the true mayor of Atlanta's side.
Speaker 3: J Connor continues, it's hard for the average person to
Speaker 3: fathom how fast AI is improving, or to truly ponder
Speaker 3: the implications of now living in a world with text
Speaker 3: to photo and text to video prompt programs that only
Speaker 3: corporations and governments have access to. It's even harder to
Speaker 3: care when your tax dollars are being used to drop
Speaker 3: bombs in Gaza. But I digress. No, my fellow chums,
Speaker 3: I'm here to inform you and show you this new
Speaker 3: reality we live in, one where AI has been proven
Speaker 3: in the laboratory. I want to say laboratory at this point.
Speaker 3: Doorady to have the capabilities to dundunt read minds, or
Speaker 3: if I were to phrase it more professionally to quote
Speaker 3: decode brain waves into communicative text end quote. Oh, says
Speaker 3: Jake Connor. But it doesn't stop there. My friends meta
Speaker 3: formally Facebook, Yeah, we're aware, has announced that they have
Speaker 3: not only proven AI can read minds, but it can
Speaker 3: also illustrate what you are thinking. Yes, a literal picture.
Speaker 3: Let's stop there, because we have talked about this recently, Matt.
Speaker 3: You brought this story not too too long ago about
Speaker 3: some of the first legislation to protect brain waves. If
Speaker 3: I'm am I oversimplifying out of Colorado.
Speaker 2: Uh no, not at all, to protect essentially the intellectual
Speaker 2: property that are your thoughts.
Speaker 3: We go, nothing weird, So.
Speaker 2: You check out.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you already know about this, Jay, but for
Speaker 3: everybody else, if you miss that one, check it out.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting case of legislation attempting to be proactive,
Speaker 3: right to set the lay of the land for future
Speaker 3: inevitable technological progress.
Speaker 2: This is something we didn't talk about, or at least
Speaker 2: a connection we didn't make in that discussion as a
Speaker 2: connection to and I think a bridge is our AI
Speaker 2: discussion here. The way, these large language learning models or
Speaker 2: whatever what are they called, the aims the things that
Speaker 2: we call AI nowadays.
Speaker 3: Okay, the way I'm learning, let's say it that w Yeah.
Speaker 2: The way many of them were originally developed, it was
Speaker 2: by just taking up any and all information that was available, right,
Speaker 2: And we've learned over the past couple of weeks and
Speaker 2: rough well months, some of the loopholes, legal loopholes, and
Speaker 2: legal bending that was occurring when those things were developed,
Speaker 2: where basically copyright law was just kind of ignored in
Speaker 2: order to make sure there was enough stuff to develop
Speaker 2: several of these And we've learned that from the words
Speaker 2: of the attorneys themselves, who were kind of instructed to
Speaker 2: ignore some of that stuff.
Speaker 3: Some real forgiveness versus permission rational.
Speaker 2: Yes, which makes you think about what happens when brain
Speaker 2: waves are now accessible to people, and what types of
Speaker 2: legal loopholes and legal bending will occur when that stuff's
Speaker 2: just being sucked up into the cloud and it's your
Speaker 2: brain thoughts, your meat, your meat, murmurings like what happens.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, it's your first.
Speaker 3: And last refuge. The last thing that was Sack was saying, look,
Speaker 3: I'm not here to call anybody out, but Matt Noel,
Speaker 3: Paul fellow conspiracy realist Doc too. Every single person you've
Speaker 3: ever met has thought of some crazy things and the
Speaker 3: differences they did not necessarily act on those. This, I
Speaker 3: would argue, this gets us very close to a war
Speaker 3: world of pre crime, right and incorrectly predictive things. If
Speaker 3: you are hearing this now, you have, to one degree
Speaker 3: or another, you've thought about killing somebody. You maybe haven't
Speaker 3: planned it out, but we've all had that what if moment.
Speaker 3: You've been on the road and you thought, eh, what
Speaker 3: if I just tilt the wheel just a little bit?
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it makes me think of the three
Speaker 2: body problem. I wouldn't want to spoil it too much.
Speaker 2: But there's a position that's created within that world. It's
Speaker 2: called a what is it a wall? Wallfacers people who
Speaker 2: specifically develop plans in the darkened room that is their brain.
Speaker 2: They don't tell anybody about those plans and their ideas,
Speaker 2: but they develop these things in their own mind, and
Speaker 2: eventually those plans are spilled and get deployed. Right, no more, there,
Speaker 2: no more of that. Somebody actually, you know when it's
Speaker 2: a think tank, now it's a I don't know, cloud
Speaker 2: tank thought thing.
Speaker 3: I think, I think it's also a great violation of
Speaker 3: human rights, you know, or the rights of a thing
Speaker 3: that thinks. To be quite clear, you should be able
Speaker 3: to evaluate the world with at least some shred of sanctuary,
Speaker 3: some kind of internal safe place, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Because that's the way we think about it now.
Speaker 3: Right, right, you know? But are we not thinking things?
Speaker 3: Do we not have the right to think the things
Speaker 3: that we think? This gets close to again, decision treeing thought,
Speaker 3: which is a very dangerous proposition, right, And it's the
Speaker 3: kind of gun that fires in both directions. There is
Speaker 3: no one in that conversation who will not somehow become
Speaker 3: a victim of such a mad pursuit. Now, of course, apologies, Jay,
Speaker 3: We're going to we're gonna summarize some of your email,
Speaker 3: which is fantastic for time. We want to get to
Speaker 3: something that you pointed out after a pretty top notch
Speaker 3: explanation of the brain as biological computer, which absolutely nailed
Speaker 3: by the way you have shared what we were talking
Speaker 3: about the creation of something like telepathy, and you didn't
Speaker 3: go into any skullduggree. And I think this is like
Speaker 3: I think this is what Jay is shouting into the
Speaker 3: void and into the rooftops Now Meta has extensive research
Speaker 3: on this topic. You can read about it at least
Speaker 3: their public facing stuff on AI dot Meta dot com,
Speaker 3: go to blog aispeech and brain activity. This contains video content.
Speaker 3: This also contains summarizations of their studies and ongoing research.
Speaker 3: It is directly on their website, as j points out,
Speaker 3: which prompts Jay to call this a so open secret.
Speaker 3: Yet very few know about what's going on in these laboratories.
Speaker 3: It scares me sometimes how fast technology is progressing, unbeknownst
Speaker 3: to much of the world. And I'd like to give
Speaker 3: everybody a quote from the website that Jay shared with us.
Speaker 3: This is from August thirty first, twenty twenty two, so
Speaker 3: more than a year has passed at this point. Meta
Speaker 3: FKA Facebook says every year, more than sixty nine million
Speaker 3: people around the world suffer traumatic brain injury, which leaves
Speaker 3: many of them unable to communicate through speech, typing or gestures.
Speaker 3: These people's lives could dramatically improve if researchers develop a
Speaker 3: technology to decode language directly from You'll love this non
Speaker 3: invasive brain recordings. Today we're sharing research. It takes a
Speaker 3: step towards this goal. We've developed an AI model that
Speaker 3: can decode speech from again non invasive recordings of brain activity.
Speaker 3: And they go through just how far they've gotten through
Speaker 3: this methodology, case test and all of this. All of
Speaker 3: this leads Jay to cite some University of Texas semantic info,
Speaker 3: brainwaves AI research, some pieces from CNN, MSNBC, and Jay says,
Speaker 3: I'll leave it there. I'll let you go down the
Speaker 3: rest of the rabbit hole yourselves ponder the possibilities, like,
Speaker 3: if you built a sensor strong enough, could you capture
Speaker 3: brain waves meters away and read minds at a distance?
Speaker 3: Could we build telepathy? I'm pretty sure at this point
Speaker 3: the answer is yes. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Jay got to me, I can't wait for telepathy, man,
Speaker 2: it'll be like that story Noah was talking about where
Speaker 2: you can walk through with the card reader and was
Speaker 2: about to say, get everybody's credit cards. Man, No sick.
Speaker 7: We were talking about that legislation that just came through,
Speaker 7: I believe in Colorado where they're trying to prot you know,
Speaker 7: the infiltration of our minds man, you know, to get
Speaker 7: our personal data.
Speaker 2: Or IP or whatever that is.
Speaker 7: Telepathy, you know that's technologically enhanced or you know created telepathy,
Speaker 7: and it's coming, y'all.
Speaker 2: Do you think it is?
Speaker 3: It's just not public yet. I'm sure, but Jay concludes,
Speaker 3: I mean, in fifty years, when the state sponsor drone
Speaker 3: the patrols my neighborhood flies by to protect my thoughts
Speaker 3: from its mind to coding sensors and software, the most
Speaker 3: efficient and practical defense against it would be to put
Speaker 3: on my tinfoil hat. Maybe, man, but check out our
Speaker 3: tinfoil hat episode.
Speaker 2: We know you did.
Speaker 3: You have to encase the entire biological machine. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean, a future of hazmat suits.
Speaker 2: We just need far day cage domossiles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's be get the new hip hop flex you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, forget the role x me.
Speaker 2: I wonder if you could build a Wi Fi chamber,
Speaker 2: like a Faraday house right that has a Wi Fi
Speaker 2: chamber that allows the Wi Fi to go through that
Speaker 2: chamber in directly to a device, and you could plug
Speaker 2: in to your modular wall. These tubes allow it would
Speaker 2: be like having cables. This guy plug it into this.
Speaker 3: Is showing Nola is showing a cavalcade of cables.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a modular it's my modular wall. What I'm
Speaker 2: what I'm imagining is a modular Internet. Oh wait, this
Speaker 2: is I'm literally describing a router and an old one
Speaker 2: to them, you're also described.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you've ever been in a server room
Speaker 7: or you know, one of those massive server farms, that's
Speaker 7: all modular as well. Each one of those drives that
Speaker 7: creates the Internet is a slotted thing that's physically installed
Speaker 7: somewhere and then patch together with other stuff.
Speaker 3: I just also, you know, for anybody who's been through it,
Speaker 3: I find there's a subreddit called oddly uh satisfying or
Speaker 3: something like that, and they have a lot of cable
Speaker 3: management pictures for someone bringing order from the chaos.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 3: It's just somehow reassuring. You know, I can't even see
Speaker 3: the colors, and I'm just like, look at that.
Speaker 7: You can't exactly do that with the modular because it's
Speaker 7: meant to be you know, put in and then reset.
Speaker 7: So if you did cable management, that's for stuff that
Speaker 7: like stays connected all the time by nature, you're bringing
Speaker 7: order to the chaos.
Speaker 3: By just hooking it up correctly like that. I just
Speaker 3: want a lack of clutter. I like clean things.
Speaker 2: Agree that's nice, man, But think about the data clutter.
Speaker 2: That's like hitting there with waves.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: You can't see it, but it's there. I'm saying, let's
Speaker 2: start the wired movement again. Let's get it back all
Speaker 2: wired technology. That's it WI Yeah, dude, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Also, also, this is uh, this is funny. This is
Speaker 3: making me think of the idea of getting a report
Speaker 3: card for your thoughts, maybe around the time you pay
Speaker 3: your taxies. It's like, here's the percentage of times that
Speaker 3: you had aberrant imaginings.
Speaker 2: Oh no, have you guys ever owned a car that
Speaker 2: you're driving.
Speaker 3: Yes, I will. I've participated them, but I refuse to
Speaker 3: own one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So my car had that where you literally get
Speaker 2: a report card that is monitoring everything you have done
Speaker 2: in that vehicle for the entirety that you've been driving it.
Speaker 2: And it was like, Bro, you got a sixty eight.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you need to slow down, take those corners
Speaker 2: a little better, make sure you're signaling, which I am,
Speaker 2: because the dang thing thinks that I'm changing lanes when
Speaker 2: they've got painting. The painting on the lanes is wrong
Speaker 2: or they've done I take umbrance. Is that the word? Yea?
Speaker 2: I take umbrage with this, but anyway, just it's creepy
Speaker 2: to think of that as you're saying, saying been applied
Speaker 2: to if you could open up the terminal of your
Speaker 2: mind and just see everything that's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if humans are ready
Speaker 3: for that level of cybernetic integration, and we don't know
Speaker 3: what the world will look like at that time. It's
Speaker 3: fascinating stuff, it's worrying. It is arguably inevitable on some level.
Speaker 3: And listen, when this kind of stuff is rolled out
Speaker 3: or message to the public, it always comes in glowing terms, right,
Speaker 3: in very happy futuristic optimist terms. Right, we're going to
Speaker 3: we're going to help people with TBI, which is true,
Speaker 3: that part is true. But also we have to ask
Speaker 3: about the other side of this. Because technology knows no
Speaker 3: ideological dilemmas, right, it knows only the ethics of its creators.
Speaker 3: Is scary thing. It's one of the big problems with AI.
Speaker 3: Now write to us. We want to hear your thoughts
Speaker 3: about it before we end, because that is kind of
Speaker 3: a trippy thing. We want to thank everybody's written to us.
Speaker 3: We also want to give a special shout out to
Speaker 3: talks who hipped us to a very wholesome conspiracy from
Speaker 3: the world of education. There is our letter from home.
Speaker 3: Hi guys, longtime listener, but have never wrote in until
Speaker 3: now thought you all might want to know about an
Speaker 3: active conspiracy going on in my little public pre k
Speaker 3: through twelve rural school. Rural school. I work at the
Speaker 3: school that as one hundred kids from pre kindergarten to
Speaker 3: twelfth grade. Class sizes range from ten to one. Just
Speaker 3: like every other place deals with small children. We also
Speaker 3: have the notorious stomach ache that comes around when students
Speaker 3: don't want to work time. Is that a thing?
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, yes, Actually, you know, I think it might
Speaker 7: have become a little bit more headaches now with the
Speaker 7: gen Z kids and their anxiety and neuroses, I think
Speaker 7: a headache might be more popular. But definitely the legacy
Speaker 7: thing was my term to a.
Speaker 3: Little mo lingering. Right, So okay, so Talks says, be
Speaker 3: to school. We have very strict regulations on medications being
Speaker 3: given to students. That's a good thing. I am one,
Speaker 3: says talks of only three people in the district that's
Speaker 3: allowed to administer medication. Most schools, when they run into
Speaker 3: tummy trouble or as you said, no headaches without any
Speaker 3: accompanying visible symptoms. They rely on letting kids have a
Speaker 3: five to ten minute rest in the nurse's office before
Speaker 3: returning to class. My school has found a way around this, however.
Speaker 3: Peppermint candy. Yes, the red and white striped candy is
Speaker 3: our answer to every excuse. The nice thing is because
Speaker 3: of the peppermint extract. It does help mild nausea. Being
Speaker 3: a heart candy, it provides some relief to scratchy throats
Speaker 3: and coughs. Because these are candy and not actually treating anything,
Speaker 3: shout out to our supplements episode we can give them
Speaker 3: to the kids. The older kids have figured out the grift,
Speaker 3: but still swing by the office for a mint now
Speaker 3: and then. Thanks for all you guys do you keep
Speaker 3: me company on my drive every day. I think somebody
Speaker 3: got me with this when I was younger. I think
Speaker 3: some I think I got pepperminted.
Speaker 7: I mean it can you know there might be a
Speaker 7: placebo effect involved as well, but peppermint does have some
Speaker 7: stomach calming sure properties.
Speaker 3: You know, peppermint's great. I just think it's We wrote
Speaker 3: back to Tonks and just said, you know, there's one
Speaker 3: of our favorite wholesome childhood conspiracies up there with Santa Claus.
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, everybody nop uh, Big Claws is shutting us down, guys,
Speaker 3: Operation jingle Bells and full Fast. We got to go
Speaker 3: thanks to a tonks plant Queen GP Scooch, J Connor
Speaker 3: everybody else. This has been a fun one, huh.
Speaker 2: I agree. I just realized that peppermint myself all the
Speaker 2: time when I reach for a stick of gum or something,
Speaker 2: you know that's just peppermin flavor and I'm like, oh, well, peppermint.
Speaker 3: Or sharper right, stay frosty by friends? Was that the
Speaker 3: Dosakis guy, Stay thirsty, stay interesting.
Speaker 7: He's the most the most interesting, the.
Speaker 3: Most interesting, dude, I think he says, stay thirsty.
Speaker 2: I think you might be right.
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