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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans back here for episode number

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Speaker 1: twenty eight of the Mets Up podcast. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 1: your co host Giraffe Neckmark Mark Luino here with James Ciano.

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Speaker 1: Jeter had no range talking about the New York Mets

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Speaker 1: weird week thus far. We wrapped up a three game

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Speaker 1: series against the Atlanta Braves. Then we had that little

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Speaker 1: weird one game against the Washington Nationals. That will briefly

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Speaker 1: talk about it feels like it happened honestly a year ago,

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Speaker 1: because this series with the Braves had a lot of

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Speaker 1: up and downs, but the same consistent theme with this

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Speaker 1: New York Mets team that we've been talking about for

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Speaker 1: what feels like the last few weeks. Here no offense.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about all the games that happened

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Speaker 1: in these last few days, talk about the series preview,

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Speaker 1: the New York Yankees won, the Subway series coming up

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Speaker 1: And now is when I bring in James to get

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Speaker 1: his initial thoughts on what just happened this week, because

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Speaker 1: it's been not great.

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Speaker 2: More than this week. This most recent game is what's

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Speaker 2: wearing on my mind. I think that's definitely where we

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Speaker 2: should start today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just go right into it, because Game three

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Speaker 1: recent one, the one that is fresh on our minds.

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Speaker 1: I wish it wasn't fresh on my minds. I wish

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Speaker 1: that this game could just get blasted out of my brain.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been worse. Enter Encrta could

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Speaker 1: have walked it off. But the Mets lose a game

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Speaker 1: that we didn't deserve to win. There's by no means

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Speaker 1: that this is a game that we should have won.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you something, when's the last time the Mets

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Speaker 2: play the game they deserve to win? Because I can't

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Speaker 1: It's been because White sometimes. Yeah, since this team has

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Speaker 1: This team is so off right now. The one staphan

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Speaker 1: weirdly put us in a hole right from the get go.

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Speaker 1: Three runs in the first inning, uncharacteristic of him. He

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Speaker 2: He did. The Graham starting this game was really bizarre.

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Speaker 2: This was last week we said he was human. This

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Speaker 2: Fucking airy Adrianza. I think that was a slider in

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Speaker 2: a weird start. I've never seen, not that never. It's

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Speaker 1: And I think what makes this start even crazier is

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Speaker 1: struck out what fourteen guys and six innings or seven innings.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen total, eight in a row. Ronnie and Gary were

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Speaker 2: how often have we talked about Tom Severs ten consecutive

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Speaker 2: what thirty years? And now we're mentioning it like every

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Speaker 2: single week in Mets Land, two consecutive podcast we've talked

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Speaker 1: Well, seemingly we've every time Jake de gram gets on

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Speaker 1: While he didn't have his start at the beginning, he

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Speaker 1: figured it out, Like you said, the eight strikeouts in

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Speaker 1: to you. You can look at spin rates in real time.

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Speaker 1: His spin rates were completely normal.

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Speaker 2: Thus thirty RPMs on average in his fastball.

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Speaker 1: Sticky stuff, merchant, that's what it is, stuff merchant.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I would love for Jacob de Grim to get

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Speaker 2: some sticky stuff. I really would, especially now that they're

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Speaker 1: Him just getting some two fingers deep in there again,

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Speaker 2: They're like the main competitor to drive line. We said

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Speaker 2: before de Gram at fourteen strikeouts, code off I reported

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Speaker 2: that this was the fewest pitches in the history of

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Speaker 1: And I think he had eighty at the time, which

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Speaker 2: And you felt it during that stretch where he got

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Speaker 2: eight in a row. Those were consistently three, four, maybe

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Speaker 2: five pitch at bats. He was never behind the count.

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Speaker 2: He was just dicing fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball. Galbzy

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Speaker 2: gave a little update in mid game that de Gram

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Speaker 2: was a little bit more slider than fastball. Early he

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that was something where like de

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Speaker 1: and he was trying to give a different look, or like,

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Speaker 1: do you think that was a conscious thing like I'm

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Speaker 2: It felt like there was a period of this game

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Speaker 2: he's almost throwing it like a fastball because it can

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Speaker 2: I think there's some credence to what you're saying there.

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Speaker 2: That has to be a bump gun. It has to be,

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Speaker 2: But if it's rising more and spinning more, it's the

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the vertical movement was like downward.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, oh, okay, oh, then he probably is toying

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Speaker 2: with a sinker or two seamer. Then de Gram used

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Speaker 2: to throw a sinker once upon a time or two seamer,

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Speaker 2: whichever way you like to classify that. He got rid

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Speaker 2: of that when this entire like meteoric stretch happened over

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Speaker 2: the last three seasons. But the guy retired eighteen batters

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Speaker 2: in a row tonight. You never ever see that he

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Speaker 2: had twenty seven whiffs this game. Twenty seven whiffs. That

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Speaker 2: funny end of itself, that's a ridiculously high number. If

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Speaker 2: anyone here likes these like advanced pitching stats, we talk

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Speaker 2: If you go in the Baseball Savont game feed on

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Speaker 2: a nightly basis, they have like the leaders of the

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Speaker 2: swings and misses. You never see a swing in mistotal

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Speaker 2: above like thirteen fourteen. When you see sixteen seventeen, like, wow,

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Speaker 2: even notice while watching it. I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: No, he's he was so good again. Which is so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything that could have went wrong that game kind

432
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Speaker 1: of did. And it's just again the offense non existent.

433
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Speaker 1: You can't you gotta hit Paulo a spin up.

434
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Speaker 2: The one thing that I want to talk about in

435
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Speaker 2: this game that's pretty similar to this giomet play we

436
00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,159
Speaker 2: are talking about is the Blankenhorn Misplay's like literally the

437
00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,000
Speaker 2: exact same type of situation where the team can't hit,

438
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Speaker 2: they've actually shown like a modicum of life, and then

439
00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,640
Speaker 2: you blame like a pretty like just this was worse

440
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,760
Speaker 2: than geor miss play. Of course, Dravis blanken Horn made

441
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,679
Speaker 2: the misplay, But this is a quadruple player who is

442
00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,159
Speaker 2: coming into a game cold and he was forced to

443
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 2: make a bang bang play. He just read it wrong

444
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,200
Speaker 2: and then he compounded his error with a throwing error,

445
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,479
Speaker 2: and then Cashers couldn't pick him up and that shit happens.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like the real story is like one

447
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,440
Speaker 1: pitching Kyle Schwuburn too need more offense. The offense can't

448
00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,640
Speaker 1: keep showing up in the seventh, eighth, and ninth, which

449
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,440
Speaker 1: is seemingly the only time the bats seemed to wake

450
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Speaker 1: up is when the bullpen comes into the game.

451
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Speaker 2: Which that's a troubling sign in of itself, because the

452
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Speaker 2: Mets can't hit the better pitchers who are the starters,

453
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Speaker 2: and then once the relievers come in we find a way.

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Speaker 1: It's like when we know guys have two pitches, it's

455
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Speaker 1: okay because we got a fifty to fifty.

456
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Speaker 2: Yes, good for shadowing, good for shadowing.

457
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Speaker 1: Yes. So let's go to game one here with the Braves,

458
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Speaker 1: because I know you got a lot to say about

459
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Speaker 1: this one here Mets go up against the Braves Game one,

460
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Speaker 1: and I mean, like, yes, we did good, we got

461
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Speaker 1: the win.

462
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Speaker 2: I don't think this was good at all.

463
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Speaker 1: This game was fucking awful to be a part of

464
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Speaker 1: until the very end.

465
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Speaker 2: Not the very end.

466
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, like that's why I'm saying like

467
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Speaker 1: it it was. It was good because we won, but

468
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Speaker 1: like I don't know how much actual good to find

469
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Speaker 1: in this game. Besides, I guess like Micguil is pretty

470
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:01,800
Speaker 1: pretty cood.

471
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Speaker 2: We've been living in this fantasy world for a few

472
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 2: weeks now where we're like, team didn't play well, we

473
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Speaker 2: find a way to win that's not gonna fucking work,

474
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 2: like whether wait, this is in nineteen seventy three. I

475
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 2: don't want to just find a way to win. I'd

476
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,959
Speaker 2: like to win a game handedly. And this factually, we

477
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,399
Speaker 2: just saw Morton last week. You knew what he was doing.

478
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 2: He's throwing curveballs and fastballs, a couple of colors here

479
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 2: and there, Like I understand that we guess every single pitch,

480
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 2: but damn, like guess right?

481
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Speaker 1: Fuck, I don't know what's going on with like the

482
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Speaker 1: prep department here, and I don't know if this falls

483
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Speaker 1: on Quadle Bomb. I don't know who this falls on

484
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: now because this was apparently Chili's problem, and Chili's gone,

485
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 1: and this offense still seemingly has no clue what's happening

486
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 1: at the plate? Are the Mets being told to guess?

487
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 1: What is what is actually being told to these guys

488
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Speaker 1: because they've all been very, very good hitters at times.

489
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Speaker 1: I mean, we have guys on this team that have

490
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 1: been elite offensively elite, and they are looking, I mean,

491
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Speaker 1: like a shell of themselves.

492
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Speaker 2: Then that we have guys in this team have been

493
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Speaker 2: the lead offensively. The first five batters in this order

494
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 2: have all proven to be All Star caliber players, easily

495
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Speaker 2: all Star caliber players, some of them being MVP caliber

496
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Speaker 2: depending on when you've looked at their stature of certain

497
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Speaker 2: hot streaks they've had, and they all just seem a

498
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: little bit lost. Gelbzi actually mentioned this very specifically. I

499
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Speaker 2: want to say it was the fifth or sixth ending

500
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Speaker 2: of this game. The Mets had had McNeil got hit

501
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Speaker 2: by that pitch first bat of the game, can fourth

502
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: got a base hit in the fourth, and that was

503
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Speaker 2: it until the rally in the seventh. That was it

504
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Speaker 2: completely it. But Galbzy mentioned the fact that when they talk,

505
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Speaker 2: I don't remember who he said he talk to. I

506
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 2: can't recall right now, and I couldn't find the video

507
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Speaker 2: when I was prepping for this. But basically, the Mets

508
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 2: hitting philosophy is guest and sell out every single pitch

509
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Speaker 2: they see.

510
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Speaker 1: I hate that so much.

511
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Speaker 2: It's awful. You are sending these guys up to the

512
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Speaker 2: plate doing tons of thinking. You're just computing in your

513
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 2: mind every single pitch, like, Okay, he just threw a fastball.

514
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: He's throwing thirteen fastballs this game, and this count. He

515
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Speaker 2: throws this many percentage of fastballs, this many percentage of sliders.

516
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Speaker 2: When he does throw sliders, and this type of count

517
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Speaker 2: usually it's this spot on the zone. You're giving the

518
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: picture all the power to just simply buck their own

519
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: trends or just make a pitch and beat you. Because

520
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: Ronnie mentioned this, like very specifically that even if you're

521
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Speaker 2: looking curveball low and you see that curveball low, if

522
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 2: the pitcher executes, you can't hit it because the curveball

523
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: that ducks out of the strike zone and you're shit

524
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Speaker 2: out of luck.

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Speaker 1: It's why the old adage of whatever like sit fastball,

526
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Speaker 1: a just breaking ball, Like there's a reason that's been said.

527
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Speaker 1: I know old baseball is a little like we're starting

528
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Speaker 1: to get a little further and further away from it,

529
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Speaker 1: but that's one that's stuck around throughout time. You gotta

530
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Speaker 1: sit fastball or just breaking because I mean, the Mets

531
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Speaker 1: are just like you said, they're guessing and when they're wrong,

532
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Speaker 1: which happens. Just be a lot.

533
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Speaker 2: It has to be a lot. How often can you

534
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Speaker 2: really guess and be right, Especially when you're facing starters

535
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Speaker 2: like we're mentioning, who are throwing three or four, sometimes

536
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Speaker 2: even five pitches. It's very hard to guess right, super hard,

537
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Speaker 2: especially when there's a picture on the mount who's actually

538
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Speaker 2: cerebral and sees what's happening, and all they have to

539
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: do is just mix up their cadences and you're completely dead.

540
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Speaker 1: This feels very like Miguelsono, Gary Sanchez, like Joey Gallo,

541
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Speaker 1: like through true outcome guys where it's like I'm gonna

542
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: swing fastball down the middle every time. It's eventually gonna

543
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Speaker 1: be one, and i will hit thirty five home runs,

544
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: but I'm also gonna hit two ten, and I'm not

545
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna do much of the other stuff. The Mets aren't

546
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Speaker 1: this baseball team, and especially guy like freaking Jeff McNeil

547
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: cannot be playing baseball like this. He's not that kind

548
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Speaker 1: of player.

549
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Speaker 2: And we don't know if every hitter is specifically doing this,

550
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: but seems like the organizational philosophy has shifted to this

551
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: method of hitting, and it just makes tons of sense.

552
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: That they there would have been a massive overhaul of

553
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Speaker 2: the way we hit. Just considering the fact that we've

554
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: changed the way you pitch, We've changed the way you

555
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: play defense, We're not not gonna change the way we hit. Like,

556
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Speaker 2: if you're bringing all these new minds together, you especially

557
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: like Steve Cohen, Sandy Alders, and these are sharp guys

558
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: who puts sharp people in charge, You're gonna change things.

559
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Speaker 2: I just don't think that this change is good.

560
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: I hearing that makes me mad. Hearing that makes me go, like,

561
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Speaker 1: who came up with this idea and what is their

562
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Speaker 1: proof that it works? Because I can tell you right

563
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: now that Dodgers, the Ashtros, the White Sox some of

564
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: the best offensive teams in baseball are just not doing this.

565
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: There's no way that they're.

566
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Speaker 2: How this would really work. Well. If we had a

567
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: camera in the center field, yes, this would be then

568
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm in an amazing strategy.

569
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Speaker 1: If we were cheating, yes, if our guessing was actually knowing,

570
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: that's different. But our guessing is not. Goot, we clearly

571
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: don't have cameras anywhere the way this team offensively.

572
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: The Mets are the most honest team in baseball. There's

573
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Speaker 2: no doubt de Gram's been ready to haven't dropped. The

574
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: Mets can hit the hit for shit, we are playing

575
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Speaker 2: this game straight and narrow right now. I don't like it.

576
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: Let's start cheat. We gotta start cheating or something. Another

577
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Speaker 2: thing that I'm just gonna make a hard transition into

578
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Speaker 2: it because I want to talk about, is how this

579
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: narrative has been built about the Mets not being able

580
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: to hit the curveball. It doesn't seem like the Mets

581
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: can hit a curveball. It really doesn't like when you watch,

582
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Speaker 2: But I think it just feels that way because we're

583
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Speaker 2: watching a team night in night out, and we've faced

584
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Speaker 2: Charlie Mooreton twice in a week. We got diced up

585
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Speaker 2: by Aaron Nola. These are guys are some of the

586
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Speaker 2: best curve balls in all of baseball, And like when

587
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Speaker 2: you suck at hitting in general, all of your per

588
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: pitch statistics are going to look terrible. They are. This's

589
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: just gonna happen. Like the Mets score the fewest runs

590
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Speaker 2: in baseball. There's no way that we're gonna like be

591
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Speaker 2: the oh my god, wow, look how great they're hitting

592
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: everything except curveballs. The curve ball is the only thing

593
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Speaker 2: holding them back. No, we have the least runs in baseball.

594
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: It's everything. And even if you look at just like

595
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: comparing two pitch two off speed pitches, a curveball and

596
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: a changeup, we had the fifth lowest xwoll but against

597
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Speaker 2: change ups in the league and the eleventh lowest against curveballs.

598
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: We are whiffing more on curveballs than change ups. But

599
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's really meaningful because league average are

600
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Speaker 2: whiffing more against curveballs than change ups. It's very hard

601
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Speaker 2: to decipher what here is real and what here is not.

602
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, I think the whole whiff thing,

603
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Speaker 1: like you said, with the curveball and change up makes

604
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Speaker 1: a lot of sense because changeup is not a whiff

605
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Speaker 1: pitch as well, Like curveball is meant to get you

606
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: swing and miss. Change ups more of like that just

607
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: get you off balance, out in front of kind of thing.

608
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: So that makes sense for the whole whiff rate. I

609
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: think you're right too, with like Nola and these guys

610
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Speaker 1: that we've been seeing making us think that we can

611
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Speaker 1: hit curveballs because we've seemingly come up against curveball pitchers

612
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Speaker 1: that we haven't hit. I don't know. It's like, like

613
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: you said, the numbers aren't gonna lie, they're telling the truth.

614
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: But there it comes back to this guessing. Man, it

615
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: really is. It's just it comes back to this guessing.

616
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Speaker 1: It's just not working.

617
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Speaker 2: But the counterpoint to that is I'm gonna argue against

618
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: myself for a second cause I find this interesting is

619
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Speaker 2: that we saw Zach Wheeler drastically change his pitch mikes

620
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Speaker 2: in the first four innings of the game last Sunday

621
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Speaker 2: and curveball, curbball, kurkball kerbl who's throwing lots of curveballs,

622
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Speaker 2: and he's really a fastball slider guy. So the fact

623
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Speaker 2: that that is how it seems and teams are game

624
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: planning for that does maybe think it's legitimate. But then

625
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Speaker 2: I looked into it a little bit more and I

626
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Speaker 2: think more of the fact of why we're seeing more

627
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: curveballs and why it seems worse is because the Mets

628
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: are actually great against sliders. Very interesting. Mets have the

629
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Speaker 2: fifth lowest strikeout percentage in the league against slyders and

630
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Speaker 2: the fifth highest ex wobble against them, and they're seeing

631
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Speaker 2: the lowest percentage of sliders and all of baseball.

632
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Speaker 1: That's interesting because, as we know in baseball, slider is

633
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Speaker 1: the pitch right pitch, the big.

634
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: Pitch has is the greatest bridge between velocity, command and movement.

635
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Speaker 2: For some reason, the Mets had that. So maybe this

636
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: meds preparation thing is just focusing up on sliders, or

637
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: maybe it's the fact that just more relievers throw sliders

638
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: and we get into these situations with relievers, we can

639
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: get slider, fastball, slider, fastball, slider, fastball fifty to fifty

640
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: shot those odds all play.

641
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we do hit well late in the game.

642
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: I this is something we're gonna have to keep a

643
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: close eye on here these next couple of weeks here

644
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: going into the All Star break. Oh man, it's just

645
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating. But listen, there's a couple's there's a

646
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: couple things that we could talk about though from this

647
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: game one though that aren't absolutely you know, doom and

648
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: gloom from the offensive side. James mccannon huge home run.

649
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, James appreciated he had. He actually had a

650
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: pretty good series and he got on base three times

651
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: tonight two in Game three. So the bat they're starting

652
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: to warm up, and I think he's actually playing exactly

653
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: how he has for his career. If you look at

654
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: his slash.

655
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 2: Line seven hundred ops perfect.

656
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we basically got the player we paid for.

657
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: He's actually not underperforming anymore. It's just we probably paid

658
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: him a little bit too much, like you've said.

659
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Before, which we can all be right about that. And

660
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: now he's just like a pretty okay catch. We'll see

661
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: what happens. You're three and four. We'll get Francisco Aiver's

662
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: up here. We'll talk about that though. On the prospect report,

663
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: I think Kevin Plars at bat was very, very important

664
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: that seventh inning against Morton. He worked the count to fall.

665
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: He fouled off a couple of tough pitches. I think

666
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: the umpire bailed him out. I believe on either check

667
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: swing or ball that was high and in umpiring was awful.

668
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: This series awful, some of the worst we've seen this year,

669
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: and we've had some bad umpire.

670
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Feels like we always get this Ramon Dajesus guy or

671
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: whatever his name is, I don't know what. I don't

672
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: know his actual name, but like he's this crew that

673
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: we had in Atlanto. Feels like We've gotten them a

674
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: couple times, and they're horrendous.

675
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: They're awful. But then, like you said, mccannt the home run,

676
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: and then even after that, we could have taken the

677
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: high of our tie and walked out of their happy

678
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: men like we did tonight. But no Pirazza clutch again,

679
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: big time ground rule double and Lador clutched off. I

680
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: got a nice single. Thank thank god we won this game.

681
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: It could be real dark times right now if we

682
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: lost that one, if we had a three game sweep

683
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: of the Braves. This a different podcast because we're limping

684
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: into the All Star break. I mean, we are crawling.

685
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: We get swept this one. We are just laying dead

686
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: under the dirt.

687
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: And a tough series with the Brewers coming up after

688
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: the Yankees. But we'll get to that in a second.

689
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: Can I talk about.

690
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: Mcguil, Yes, please talk about mcgil because I like mcguil.

691
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: He's looking like a nice little picture for us.

692
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Migil is looking really well. He is so poised on

693
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: the mound. Well.

694
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: I think mccannon said like something along the lines of

695
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: like McGill's like, shit, don't stink.

696
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: I gotta fuck with that from my picture.

697
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: That's your boy.

698
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: That's my guy, dude. He shrunk the repertoire. This outing

699
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: to something I thought it was gonna look like during

700
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: his debut when he was mixing all these crazy pitches.

701
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: But it was fifty five percent fastball, twenty eight percent slid,

702
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: sixteen percent change up. Biggest thing was he got tons

703
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: of whiffs. Again, fourteen told on forty eight swings is

704
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: twenty nine percent, well above above league average, and they

705
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: mostly came on his off speed stuff, the things that

706
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: we were told would kind of be the things that

707
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: held him back. He had five whiffs on twelve swings

708
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: from the sly there and five whiffs on eight swings

709
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: from the change up. The change up. I did not

710
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: expect this from the change up at all. The pitch

711
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: looks actually like polished.

712
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he looked like really sharp. I mean, you've

713
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: been hyping him up, like since you ever really caught

714
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: win to this guy, and I hadn't watched a lot

715
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: of him and the miners if besides the stuff that's

716
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: been on Twitter, I'm very impressed with the kind of

717
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: picture that he's become. Like he's a guy where when

718
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: guys started to come back healthy, this might lead into

719
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Game two at some point here, but he's getting the

720
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: call over David Peterson every day of the week.

721
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I have such a different feeling with

722
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill on the line than David Peterson. Like it's

723
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: not even funny. And that's not to say that Tyler

724
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: McGill is perfect to Tyler McGill's an All Star. He's gonna

725
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 2: contend for FOK of the Year at this point because

726
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: there were a couple signs from this game that could

727
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: potentially become troubling. You saw once that lineup went round

728
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: their time, the Brays were on him completely honest. Yes,

729
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: that's just gonna happen when a guy throws fifty five

730
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: percent fastballs. And I found out after the game it

731
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: doesn't really have the requisite ride that I thought it

732
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: was gonna have that it appears to have when we

733
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: watch these games on television. Is actually below league average

734
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: and vertical movement which is a little bit upsetting. And

735
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: the fastball itself also only had four whists on twenty

736
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: eight swings, so the we're taking some hacks up there.

737
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: It did max out in ninety seven SAT ninety five,

738
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: Like you'll get away with some shit like that. But

739
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: he was just pounding strikes on, pounding, pounding, pounding, eventually

740
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: throwing more than fifty percent fastballs without requisite ride and

741
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: without like a real dominant breaking pitch. This is gonna

742
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: catch up. God's gonna get to him, especially third time

743
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: through the order. But let's take away a right here.

744
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: He's a useful piece. He's gonna continue to be useful.

745
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: Everyone understands that. Keep that, uh, keep keep your wits

746
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: about you. While watching Tyler McGill.

747
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I know we talked about last episode, like

748
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: he made the same apperial the day, the same day

749
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: as Jake de Ground, like of the same age, same appearance,

750
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Like all right, people, like I love cool facts, but

751
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: let's just take it for a fact, like this is

752
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: something that happened. Let's not actually compare him to like

753
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the next Shack, but you're going to

754
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: not be insane. And then luckily for us too, the

755
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: bullpen was great again. May is back and we saw

756
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: it even in game three while he while he struggled

757
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: a little bit in Game three two, he's still like

758
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: he paired down and that was the May that we

759
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: saw at the beginning of the year. So whatever that

760
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: weird break was that he got where he basically didn't

761
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: pitch for a week, seems like it was needed. It

762
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: helped because May's back.

763
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: So back, he's so incredibly back. He was actually the

764
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: only Mets reliever in this game to get a w

765
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: which I found to be very weird. Lougo and dam

766
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: had one. He has almost played the game, my guys,

767
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: that long foul ball got out of it. But the

768
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: bottom line coming out of this series and the stupid

769
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: one game of the Nationals, I don't even care about

770
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: this point. The last three Mets win were like whole

771
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: ass miracles.

772
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah no, it took literally every single thing to go

773
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: right and every single thing to go wrong for the

774
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: other team for the Mets to scrape a win.

775
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: By scrape it, that's three wins in this was eight

776
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: divisional games.

777
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: It's bad. That's terrible. I mean, we brought everyone right

778
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: back into the thick of things with this record. Now,

779
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: because the Nationals are what two two and a half

780
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: back now, the Braves I think are sitting at like four.

781
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: It was two going into today and they their game

782
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: was they lost. Oh they did lose, so it's an

783
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: official loss. Yeah, thank god, good, good job. Good than

784
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. But baseball perspectives dropped their midway through the season,

785
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: playoff projections yesterday or today, Thursday or Wednesday, and I

786
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: was really disgruntled seeing them having the Mets, it's still

787
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: like a seventy five percent chance to win the division.

788
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: When eighty eight projected wins six ahead of the next

789
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: closest team in the division, I was.

790
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Like, feels aggressive. I don't see how that's possible, Like

791
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: I think, I think we know that this team can

792
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: be that, but what they're showing us right now is

793
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: not even close. Like it's crazy, and this is just

794
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: typical Mets fashion, the rollercoaster that we've been on already

795
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: this season with everything. We got so lucky with the

796
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: replace Mets and how well the bench mob played, and

797
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: then they came back to life or came back to

798
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, normal, They stopped playing like the bench mob

799
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, because it's gonna happen. These aren't starters

800
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: every day. But we were still able to get wins,

801
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: and we were still playing good baseball being the Padres,

802
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: being the Cubs, and then we got to these division

803
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: games and we just crumbled. I mean Game two. I

804
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of the like overall, what's been

805
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: waiting to happen, because David Peterson came out for Game

806
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: two and stunk awful, and then Sean Reid Foley came

807
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: out and he's stunk awful and we lost twenty to two.

808
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: Thomas A. Bucky came out awful.

809
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: So like, listen, Thomas A. Pucky, We've been We've been

810
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: waiting for you. We saw you.

811
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: I've had enough that fucked up.

812
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: I that's messed up. But I just don't know that

813
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: he messed up. I don't I don't really know what

814
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: he can do for this team at the major league

815
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: level with the way that he pitches right now.

816
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Dude, we gave up twenty runs on Wednesday night, and

817
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: by far the worst part of the game was that

818
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: we couldn't hit.

819
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it was like the twenty runs. That's

820
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen at some point. Every team gives up runs

821
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: at some point during the year. Like a blowout loss

822
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. But the fact that we had nothing

823
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: going offensively is the worst part.

824
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: We had one hit from the first to the seventh inning.

825
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: It was a Luiski orme seeing I single and he

826
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: was a race on a double play.

827
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, what a what a miserable game.

828
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: It's just the Mets do this every year with the Braves.

829
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: There's one game where the Braves just curb stomped. They

830
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: shit out of us.

831
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: We just did this the Braves a month ago, so

832
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I guess this was like the payback, And that is funny,

833
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: Like a month ago we were like returning the corner

834
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: and it teams about to get hot. Fifteen gat in

835
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: the lead in the division. Offense is finally where it

836
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: has to be, and it's been nothing but shit since then.

837
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: No, it's been bad. And as we're getting our guys

838
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: back too, which like, weirdly, that's what we were struggling

839
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: with early when we had these guys like our every

840
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: day dude.

841
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: Some interesting decisions to be made over the next two

842
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: weeks with roster spots on this team.

843
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: For sure, some guys that I think people are gonna

844
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: be surprised to see moving around are gonna be moving around.

845
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't really even want to say who I

846
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: think is gonna because logically I think it's gonna be

847
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: our boy because he is the only the only guy

848
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: in this active roster, he'd be who you'd want to

849
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: keep with options?

850
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: Is that you or me?

851
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

852
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

853
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: When luiski Ormey goes to the minor leagues next week,

854
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a hissy fit.

855
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: To be fair, Parza has options.

856
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: Are you sure about that?

857
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent sure Praza has an option for

858
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: this year, so we can send him down.

859
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: Let's do some quick math right now. Within the next

860
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: seven days, if all goes according to plan, they're going

861
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: to activate Nido for Mesika, Nimo for.

862
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: It's gotta be al Mora. You can't keep him around it.

863
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: You have to keep Billy on the team over al Mora,

864
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: I guess.

865
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: But if you take Ama off the team, even though

866
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm not vouching for Alberta Moore, the guy can't hit

867
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: anything at all. I don't even think he can hive

868
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: the ball off the tee. There's no there's We don't

869
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: really have a defensive centerfielder anymore. Like Kevin Pilar is fine,

870
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: he's good.

871
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: But you know what the Mets have to do at

872
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: this point, you gotta say, yeah, defense of the outfield,

873
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: we don't give up runs. It doesn't matter, but then

874
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: VR and oh my god, I forgot about VR.

875
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I.

876
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: Guess Blankenhorn's technically they're still right. So Blanke and Horn

877
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: will get the axe if I actually is he and

878
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: then JD.

879
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Davis.

880
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: But the Mets are is gonna be making some moves.

881
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm very confident that we're gonna be grabbing some pieces.

882
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's gonna be tough. We're gonna

883
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: be playing like a little bit of a like a

884
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzle here, just trying to fit the right pieces

885
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: in the right spots with this roster.

886
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: One piece that we're now very aware is not gonna

887
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: be It's this puzzle anytime. I'm so possibly ever again,

888
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: is your guy Dell in Patansas?

889
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Batansas. Shoulder surgery done for the year. Never expect

890
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: to see him in New York Mets uniform again, which

891
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: I said when he went down with that injury at

892
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: the start, he said he will never pitch again for

893
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: this team. That's the last time we saw it. I

894
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna do the rehab, cut him and

895
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: then let him sign with someone else. But I guess

896
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: his shoulder is really really fucked up, and he's I mean,

897
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: he's probably on the brink of maybe never pitching it again,

898
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: which is super sad to say.

899
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: He was on the brink of never pitching again, like

900
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: a full calendar year ago. Yeah, this guy is like

901
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: never gonna pitch again unless he pulls in f Tali Police,

902
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: just get used again for a week and then cut

903
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: because you're so goddamn bad. This Batanzas thing was such

904
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: a joke from the start. This was so clearly never

905
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: ever going to work. One of the first times we

906
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: ever hung out, I told you this, I was like,

907
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: this is the dumbest I've ever seen in my life.

908
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: There's no way that this works out ever, and it's

909
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: true it didn't. This whole signing made me realize that

910
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: all stupid sports organizations they need a very reliable snitch

911
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 2: because if if there was anybody who was even half

912
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: competent while also having the trust of the Wolpons while

913
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: this was happening, this never would have happened. Like if

914
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: someone from the analytics team could have just grabbed an

915
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: intern and be like, hey, you have to you have

916
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: to be a suck kiss ass listen to us, but

917
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: you have to just lie to wopons through your teeth,

918
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: get them to like you, and then be able to

919
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: squash dumb shit like this before it gets Because they

920
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: won't listen to us, we won't be able to do it.

921
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: If the Mets had a good snitch all these years,

922
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: we would still have Jared Kalnick. We would never have

923
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 2: signed down on Betansas. Like all the moves we could

924
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: have made, we could have just had a good, like

925
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: analytically driven rat in the ear of the Wopons. Everything

926
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: could have been saved.

927
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Are you telling me that when we had an agent

928
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: as our GM, we didn't make the best moves possible.

929
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: He didn't think analytically, didn't use his brain. He was like, hey,

930
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: former client, let's try to get you on this team.

931
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: For some reason, the professional liar was awful at his.

932
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: Job, terrible awful. But Tansas, that is just I mean,

933
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: it's sad, but also.

934
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna go on the lore of awful Mets moves.

935
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: And least we're happy that we can add another name

936
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: stampeding in the ring of Honda.

937
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: Right there, he's our Jed Lowry of pictures.

938
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: Jed Lowry of this year and next it will be

939
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: a new one. Jed Lowry Antonio Bistardo.

940
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh God, Antonio Bistardo, that dude, I hated him. Holy

941
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: John Mayberry, Chris Young, Frank Francisco, John Roush. I mean

942
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: just like those like mid late for thousands. Yeah, that

943
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: the Mets were like ten million to you, ten million

944
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: to you.

945
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: You could add jose Ray. It's the second stint to

946
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: that list twenty twelve. Josey is. Oh my god. The

947
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: list goes on and on for ridiculous Mets signings, and

948
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: del Betans just becomes another one of them, another one

949
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: of them, just to fade.

950
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: Into the night, which leads us perfectly into his former team,

951
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: the New York Yankees, who were playing this weekend, and uh,

952
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: luckily for us, they're also playing about as bad baseball

953
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: as you could because they had a disaster game the

954
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: other night against the Angels. Very met like reminds us

955
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: of what happened, like what happened in Washington a few

956
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: years ago, which is still plays my brain every once

957
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: in a while at night. Seven run innings or seven

958
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: runs and they blow it.

959
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: This was actually the first game in Major League history

960
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: I saw on Twitter today where a team gave up

961
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: seven runs in the first inning and then allowed seven

962
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: runs in the ninth like that kind of like scoring

963
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: symmetry you don't see. You don't see it often, you've

964
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: actually never seen it before. That was nightmare fuel. If

965
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: that would have happened to the Mets, I would have

966
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would have laid down the middle

967
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: of the street.

968
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: I would have packed my bag. I would have left Queens.

969
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: I would have never come.

970
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Back, especially given the circumstances of that game, the fact

971
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: that this has been the hottest like thirty six hours,

972
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: and I feel like in the history of New York,

973
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: especially since I've lived here. They had three hour rain delay,

974
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: and this was after they knocked show Heydhani out of

975
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: the game in the side of the first inning and

976
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Aaron j just didn't even start.

977
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: No, it was crazy. And then they blow that one.

978
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, luckily for us, they're playing some god

979
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: awful baseball. But we're going to the Bronx where we

980
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: know runs will be scored and the Mets can't score run.

981
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: And while the Yankees pitching has not been good, but

982
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: on both sides, the bullpen and the starters have been very,

983
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: very rough. We gotta score because the Yankees will score

984
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: the Yankees still do have the ability to hit home runs,

985
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 1: put runs on base like I think even tonight Gary

986
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: and Ron were talking about it, like they're like top

987
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: five and I think slugging percentage in the league, top

988
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: ten in on base percentage. They are just going through

989
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: a weird cold stretch where they're not scoring, but their

990
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: offense is legitimately very good.

991
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: To give you a wild Yankee stat I had for

992
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: this hit me, the Yankees have a higher OPS on

993
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: the road this season than they do at home.

994
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: That makes no sense.

995
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: That makes no sense, Holly stupid.

996
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: Like playing in that little league park. How do you

997
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: have a higher OPS anywhere than the Yankee staitu unless

998
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: you're playing cores, which that's not happening. But they also

999
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: just picked up a pest in New York Messi as well,

1000
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: and Tim mcsppened today, so we know he's gonna do

1001
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: something this series that's gonna drive us crazy.

1002
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Whether Tim Lacasher is gonna win a game by himself

1003
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: the series.

1004
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: Getting hit by a pitch and then stealing every base,

1005
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: wild pitch, score home, whatever it's gonna be. Tim Lecasher's

1006
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a paying the end, big big thing here.

1007
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Is fuck the Yankees. We gotta beat them this. The

1008
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Mets need this series more than they've needed any series

1009
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: this year. And it doesn't really actually matter more than

1010
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: any series that we've played. These Braves and Nationals and

1011
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Philly series were far more important for this more so,

1012
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: but for the psyche of Mets fans, we need to

1013
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: take two of three. For the Yankees, I mean, we

1014
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: are poor Mets fans for me and for you, I

1015
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: mean we had the fan base in general, though, is

1016
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: borderline like just ready to jump off a cliff and

1017
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: call it a season and say we're done. That's it,

1018
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: same old Mets. I don't want to go back to there.

1019
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: But if the Mets get stopped by the New York Yankees,

1020
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: oh we're going back. I'm going back to the wilpon

1021
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: eral like I'm I'm down in the dumps. I'm gloomy.

1022
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: I can't I can't continue to be positive like that

1023
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: when we just get destroyed by the Yankees. I hate

1024
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: them so much.

1025
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: Luckily, for the Mets, in terms of getting destroyed by

1026
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: the Yankees, which I can't believe you put that sentence

1027
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: even into the universe, we have three pitchers who I

1028
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: trust heading into this series. But Taiwan Friday Night, Marcus

1029
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: Stroman Saturday afternoon off against Garrett Cole and those guys

1030
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: in the same picture. Now, Garrick Cole doesn't have sticky stuff,

1031
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: which would be fun.

1032
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Garret Cole, he's a merchant for sickie stuff.

1033
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: And Sunday Night Baseball the crown jewel of them all.

1034
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill versus Michael King. That's that's the one they

1035
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: get for Sunday Night. Good fuck ESPN. I'm glad they

1036
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: got a ship matchup. But they're doing the stackcast broadcast,

1037
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: so I'm kind of excited to see the kind of

1038
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: nonsense that Mike Petriella pulls out his ass talking about

1039
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: Michael King.

1040
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: She'd be like, little do you know about Michael King

1041
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: and drop something on you because I don't really know

1042
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: much about him besides that, Uh yeah, he's like a

1043
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: five starter. There you go.

1044
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Mike Petriello admitted on Twitter sometime earlier this week that

1045
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: he started prepping for the game and he saw Tyler

1046
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: McGill was the probub pitcher for the Mets.

1047
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: He went Twitter, who is this Tyler McGill.

1048
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh, the twenty six year old starting the year in

1049
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: double A. Can't wait. Let's talk about national television.

1050
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting series. Hopefully we win.

1051
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: Need it, need it, need.

1052
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: It so bad like, hopefully we win, especially because I

1053
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: dish out so much crap. Although this year I've been

1054
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: very quiet with my Yankees crap. I've been very calm

1055
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: because I've been focused on the met It's a new era.

1056
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: We don't need to worry about the Yankees anmore because

1057
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: the Mets, you're just gonna win games. But we're starting

1058
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: to lose games now. So I'm like climbing back into

1059
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: my little troll hole here to start taking shots at

1060
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: Yankee fans again. I need it this weekend.

1061
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: I need you. Better pay the troll toll.

1062
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Yes, gotta pay the troll toll to get in. I

1063
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: need it. Let's let's talk about some prospects because I'm

1064
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: getting I'm getting like weird feelings about this Yankees thing here.

1065
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about prospects. First, one being Mark Vento's, who

1066
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: we've talked about. I feel like every prospect thing here

1067
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: because he's one of more top guys. Holy crap, he's hot.

1068
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: How this man alive? Mark Viento's he can do no

1069
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: wrong over the last couple of weeks. I kind of

1070
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: love this because his stock is just like right, just

1071
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: right now, right when we need him to. Even though

1072
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Mark Bianto's the hottest helm, I'll get into it in

1073
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: a moment. I would trade him a sap like Rocky.

1074
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Where I'll sign the papers when do you need me to.

1075
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: I don't have a car right now, but I will

1076
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Speaker 2: drive him to wherever he needs to go anyway. I'll

1077
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: read to one, I'll buy one. I don't care. I'll

1078
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: get Mark Bianzo's out of here. But it means getting

1079
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: us Some players I don't even know if it's picture anymore,

1080
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: might need to hit it. I don't know where he's

1081
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: gonna play whatever, but Mark Fianzo's ripping the cover off

1082
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: the ball. He has already this season matched his entire

1083
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: home run total from his last full season a ball

1084
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: in seventy two less games with twelve home runs.

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Speaker 1: He's killing it, killing it over his last.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two games, which is the stretch I'm gonna look at,

1087
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: because that's when he got hot. I I cherry picked

1088
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: those numbers, but that's because that's when he's good. Last

1089
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: twenty two games, he's slashing three forty one four to

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Speaker 2: seventeen with a whopping seven sixty five slug percentage seven

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Speaker 2: sixty five, ten home runs ten of the twelve in

1092
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: those twenty two games, two hundred and ten WRC plus,

1093
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 2: which means he is more than two times as good

1094
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: as the league average hitter in the Eastern League right now,

1095
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: and only a twenty four percent strikeout rate, which is

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00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: entirely manageable for a double layer who's twenty one years old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been seeing forty percent for him, So getting

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00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: in the twos somewhere with a twenty in the front

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Speaker 1: of it, yeah, I'm interested in that. That's really big,

1100
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Speaker 1: huge for his his stock here as the Mets are

1101
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be looking to ship him out because to

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00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: the other guys that we got here Alvarezenbati, two of

1103
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: our hottest hitters in the miners headed to the Futures Game,

1104
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: which should be sick because now you get to see

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Speaker 1: these guys on the national level, and as we've seen

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Speaker 1: with some previous Futures Games, this is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a coming out party for a lot of prospects.

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00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: And though that's with Beady and Alvarez. Mets fans know

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00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: who they are, but not everyone else does, so this

1110
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big opportunity for them. Hope to

1111
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: see them play well now, It's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be fun to see them. Haygen coors Field too

1113
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: at the outitude, especially hitting with the whipping wins of

1114
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Speaker 2: Brooklyn on the beach.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Alvarez is gonna be fun there for sure.

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00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be great. And then, uh, I feel

1117
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: like Mauricio might feel a little bit left out after this.

1118
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: He might feel a little left out, but he's also

1119
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: a guy who would like he could happen next year.

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Speaker 1: He's still young, He's got lots of time and unfortunately

1121
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: for him, he plays the position that everyone does.

1122
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Squeeze by shortstops, and he has also been hot. He

1123
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: hit all nuke a couple of nights ago on Wednesday

1124
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: night that Jacob Bresnik mister Prospect posted on Twitter. He

1125
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: crushed the ball, crushed that guy that stared at it

1126
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: right over the left field fence. He did miss today's game,

1127
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: got next ray in his hands that came back negative.

1128
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: I believe, so no real issues there in Mauricio, but

1129
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: just Mets fans continue to be excited about these three guys.

1130
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: And then on the pit side, who you got, I got.

1131
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I see a couple of names here that I've never

1132
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: heard of in my life.

1133
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: Through a couple names here, I feel like we've been

1134
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: talking about the same prospects over and over again. So

1135
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to give two new guys a little bit

1136
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: of shine. Two starting pitchers on the Cyclones. First one

1137
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: is Jose Buddho. I hope I'm saying that right. There's

1138
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: I found nowhere in the Internet that told me how

1139
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: to pronounce that. So Jose Buddha. He is second in

1140
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: the Mets organization right now swing strike rate, only behind McGill,

1141
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: which is pretty impressive in of himself because McGill rose

1142
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: from Double A to the majors and with felt like

1143
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 2: a month, literally a month May. He started the season

1144
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: in May. June. He's pitching against the Braves. He's twenty

1145
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: five percent krave for seven percent walk grate. His era

1146
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: is still a little bit ugly at four and a half.

1147
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I see those strikeouts, no

1148
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: swinging strike totals at that point for a starter, who

1149
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: if you dig a little bit deeper into a scatting report,

1150
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: he doesn't really have the best fastball. Again, it's very

1151
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: hard to find velocity readings for a lot of these guys,

1152
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 2: and I couldn't find them for Buddo. But fangrafs grades

1153
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: it as a forty, and that's on the scale of eighty,

1154
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: so it's not a basically mediocre fastball. So a guy

1155
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: who's dependent on his off speed stuff down in Hya,

1156
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: it's impressive to see this kind of strikeout totals. Another

1157
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: guy from a similar ILK is Justin Lasco, twenty four

1158
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: year old who just got called up from Saint Lucy

1159
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: after just a month playing there. His first two starts

1160
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: to Brooklyn are very rough, but in his last three

1161
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: he's really smoothed it out. Eighteen innings, pitch five and run,

1162
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: sixteen strikeouts and just two walks. Again, a theme as

1163
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: I keep doing these prospect reports, we keep doing these

1164
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: prospect reports is looking at the guys who don't have

1165
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: the explosive fastballs, who are just command artists, who aren't walking,

1166
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: guys not giving up free passes. That's your quickest way

1167
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: to majors. And I think there's a chance for both

1168
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: of these guys to contribute at some point in their

1169
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: careers on the major league level, probably never gonna be

1170
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: frontline starters, but we could get like a John Niece

1171
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: Dylan g out of these folks.

1172
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: Which they were serviceable starters for us. I mean, NIE's

1173
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: got some legitimate innings for us in big years for us,

1174
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: so that would be fine. Good guys to keep on

1175
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: the back burner. And of course we've got to talk

1176
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: about your boy, who you've been raving about all year long.

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00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Alex Ramirez continues to be a beast.

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Speaker 2: What the fucking call by your boy? Their call?

1179
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: You're normally the pitching guy. You hit the head, nail

1180
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: on the head. It looks like with this hitter.

1181
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: Pitching of prospects, maybe pitching in prospects. But this eighteen

1182
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: year old is ripping the cover off the bar right

1183
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: now in single A Loway San Lucy. It is called

1184
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Loway now we today it's Lowe Lowe. He's one of

1185
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: the youngest players in the entire league. I've honestly shocked

1186
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: and then hold him back for the Florida and Arizona

1187
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: instructional leagues that started up over the past week. But

1188
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: damn that first week when we did the prospect record

1189
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: for him. In May, he literally had one bad week

1190
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: and he has completely taken off since then. Over his

1191
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: last sixteen games, since he had one hit in his

1192
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: first five, he's hitting three thirty three with three eighty

1193
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: five on base and a five twenty eight percentage, eight

1194
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: extra base hits and six dolen bases as a leadoff

1195
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: hitter as an eighteen year old in Lowe.

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00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: He's crushing base balls.

1197
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: Man crushing it. He's got a thirty percent k rate,

1198
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: which again he's eighteen, that's going to happen. But I

1199
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: don't want to exaggerate when I tell you, guys, this

1200
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: kid has legit top ten prospect potential y, which.

1201
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: I love to hear. I love to hear about the

1202
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: hitting prospects of the next organization because, as we know,

1203
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: we look like we need some hitters coming up here.

1204
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: You want to call up now, we'll call.

1205
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: I'll call abut Alexamiraz. Let's see what he's got. Let's

1206
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: be aggressive with Alex Saimirez. But I think it's a

1207
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: good little prospect report here for us. Next week we're

1208
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna be doing a draft special during the midweek because

1209
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a draft guy. Here, I

1210
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: get deep into it. Just came back from the combine,

1211
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: so I've got a lot to share. I got a

1212
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: lot of guys that I hope the Mets will take

1213
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: a shot on. I saw the Mets scout there. Don't

1214
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: know who he was looking at, but hopefully he was

1215
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: looking at these guys. Lots of good talent there in

1216
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: the draft, so we'll talk about that.

1217
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: Hopefully it was Will Bednar.

1218
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he wasn't at the combine, but yeah, that's true. Yeah,

1219
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: but hopefully, Well, I mean have some guys to talk

1220
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: about there. I got a lot of names. We'll do

1221
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: that next episode. I think that's gonna wrap up our episode.

1222
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Speaker 1: Here though, episode number twenty eight of the Met Stuff Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It really does help us out. Otherwise, guys, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you at the end of the sub a series

1230
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: with the New York Yankees. Thank you, Thank you so

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00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: much for listening and we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, thanks for usen