1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: And you're here. Thanks for choosing the I Heart Radio 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast A Paranormal podcast network. Your question 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained ends here. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: We invite you to enjoy all our shows we have 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: on this network, and right now, let's start with Dark 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. Welcome to our podcast. Please 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: be aware the thoughts and opinions expressed by the host 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: are their thoughts and opinions only and do not reflect 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: We would like to encourage you to do your own 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: research and discover the subject matter for yourself. You are 13 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on 14 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 15 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week, this 16 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: is the place you go to when you want to 17 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: hear of the latest when it comes to personal revelations 18 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: in the paranormal field, from Bigfoot to angels, Jesus to 19 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: lake monsters. I mean, why not let's throw it all 20 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: in there. If you have a story that you've experienced, 21 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: that you've heard, or research that you've come across that 22 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: you want to share, please go to my main website, 23 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot 24 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: com and tell me about it. Tell me what's going on, 25 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: tell me everything, Give me as many details as you 26 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: would like, because the more the better. It really helps 27 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: paint a picture. And also, no, if you have somebody 28 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: that you'd like to suggest to come on this program, 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: also send that along. Today is a special show for 30 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: myself and Uh, I hope that you enjoy it. I 31 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: think the personal elements that build us up in this 32 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: lifetime help contribute to the whole of everything that we do, 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: including when it comes to topics that might tap on 34 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: the door of the mysterious. And so today I'd like 35 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: to dedicate this show to uh, my father who sadly 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: has recently passed, and I wanted to speak to some 37 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: of the things that have contributed to myself in this 38 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: career path when it comes to the paranormal, the mysterious, 39 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: and uh, the things that might go bump in the 40 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: night and the things that might make you look up 41 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: to the stars. Uh. Um, you know my books if 42 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: you have ever crossed any of them. Uh, you know 43 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I put a dedication in there that says, this lifetime 44 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: we build each other up and we all contribute to it. 45 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: And so thank you all for what has transpired and 46 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: what's placed into these books. And my dad was a 47 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: huge influence in that. And uh, his name is James Hollis, 48 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: and he was the Air Force Senior non commissioned Officer 49 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:42,279 Speaker 1: or s n CEO Master Sergeant E seven for NORAD, 50 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: which is the North American Aerospace Defense Command. Um. He 51 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: was an absolute pioneer computer engineer and very very jovial, 52 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: very smart. UM. Gave of his time for things like 53 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: habitat at for humanity, flat for equal rights. And he 54 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: served this country for about twenty three years. And a 55 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of people haven't known about my dad's background, uh 56 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: working for NORAD, because even I didn't know for most 57 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: of my lifetime. Isn't that something right? Um? But you know, 58 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: if you hear people like myself who say, oh, my 59 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: dad was a career military guy, and they think, oh, 60 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: you're a military brat. You moved around a lot. No, 61 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I did not. And when I would say that to people, 62 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: I would get this look like, really, m did your 63 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: dad go places a lot? And I'm like, yeah, he did, 64 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: and then get that raised eyebrow and be like, what 65 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: exactly did he do? What do you mean? Uh? So 66 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: I was oblivious most of my life about what it 67 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: was that he was involved with in working for Nora 68 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: ad Um. He would always say, for fourteen and a 69 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: half years he was in the Air Force and he 70 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: was an airplane mechanic, and uh, you know, he did 71 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: stuff with computers, and he would describe these giant warehouses 72 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: that would just have all these giant like reels of 73 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: things that would spin around. I don't know if you've 74 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: seen those those old time movies of what they call 75 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: the computer back in the day. And my dad's like, 76 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: I actually worked on those. My dad. I was eighty 77 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: five when he passed, and I'm like, whoa, you're ancient, 78 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: you know what you mean? Those those things And he's 79 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: got a couple on hand to show me and like 80 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: they're like dinosaur wheels, They're huge, and he's like, yeah, 81 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: now what those warehouses could do fit on the palm 82 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: of your hand, and uh I was like, huh wow, 83 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: you've been along for a long time from like the 84 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: first thought of computers, you know, and pretty much essentially 85 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: he really was. He was on the cusp of it. 86 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, having a dad like that so 87 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: ingrained in my whole life. UM, I thought that you 88 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: guys might find it fascinating to hear some of the 89 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: different elements that I've learned along the way and that 90 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: tie into paranormal things when it came to my dad connection. UM. 91 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people share their personal stories on here. 92 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I share my personal stories of so many different things, 93 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: and uh, I think putting it all together to discuss 94 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: these things into one program would be a nice uh 95 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: send off to my dad and uh to share how 96 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I think about him and the things that he's done 97 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: in this lifetime. And uh, again that has contributed to 98 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: me to be able to sit here today and talk 99 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: to you about some of the things that I do out. 100 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: My dad being a computer engineer is one thing. He 101 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: was a genius. He invented things, things that he never 102 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: really brought up ever. UM. I have older siblings that 103 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: are old enough to be my parents, to be honest, 104 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: and uh, and they said to me, don't you know 105 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: he was one of the bosses on this the station 106 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean? And and for me 107 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: to bring it up to him not too long ago 108 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: in fact, and uh he raised an eyebrow like how 109 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: do you know that? I'm like, oh, you know, my 110 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: older brother said something that he knew about it when 111 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: he was real little. I think he was surprised that 112 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: my brother recalled that and uh. And that's when he 113 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: told me what his rank was. And I'm like, huh, 114 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: what does that mean? You know? And uh, He's just like, well, 115 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: that means that he didn't work under a general. He 116 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: was the guy in charge at his Nora AD station. 117 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I thought you just fixed airplanes. 118 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: That's all he would ever talk about fixing airplanes at 119 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: types that he fixed, and how he's got his name 120 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: on a plane and all this stuff, and that's all 121 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: he would speak to. And then in his latter years, 122 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: after fourteen and a half years serving with the Air Force, 123 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: he went to work. Um. He was essentially in the 124 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Army reserve. And you want to hear what his uh 125 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: his title was for that uh an assistant chaplain for 126 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the Midwest, which I thought, that's interesting. I don't recall 127 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: my dad opening the Bible. Um, to share what's in it, 128 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: you know, And yeah he was a man of God, Um, definitely, 129 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: but it wasn't something that I would witness much. And 130 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, in sharing that he had the command that 131 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: he did with other people are like, oh yeah, people 132 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: who have these high rankings might get this type of 133 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: title to say a something that's totally opposite of what 134 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: he's capable of. And I don't know, I don't know, 135 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: it's a I think it's kind of a cool title. 136 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Assistant chaplain for the Midwest like that. And I did 137 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: meet the chaplain that he worked under, so um, I 138 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, but again you hear Nora ad, I mean, 139 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: what do they do. They scan the skies over North 140 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: America to see if there's any threats. Are are to 141 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: keep track of things in the skies and um, you know, 142 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: and then we hear of the Cheyenne Mountain facility and 143 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: then how deep those levels go. That's like our command 144 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: center for blanketing the entire United States to make sure 145 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: that we're safe and and uh, you know the mysteries 146 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: that go with that. It's fascinating. We hear of these 147 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: underground bases and and the possibilities of other creatures being 148 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: down there, etcetera, etcetera. And uh, I don't know those parts. 149 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I don't know what it was 150 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: exactly that he was scanning in the night skies. I 151 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: don't know, uh what it was that, if anything, that 152 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: he was able to say with positivity about they're being 153 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: things in the sky that we're not controlling. But apparently 154 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: our government is now step forward to say, indeed, something 155 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: has been going on in the skies and uh, they've 156 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: been tracking these things, they've spotted these things, and then 157 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: they give us the grainiest videos they could find on 158 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: the planet to say, ufo tik tak, come on now, Um, 159 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: I think we've got much better photos, Like maybe they 160 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: should just roll up the door to their garage and 161 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: take a good photo of what they're holding, right. Um, 162 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: But I can't say that I have access, uh that 163 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: with my dad having that type of experience, though, with 164 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the government coming forward now, is they have I'm sure 165 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: he might have. I'm sure he did actually, Um, but 166 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: there's some things that after I asked about, you know, 167 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: what's this thing about Nora Ad he slightly mentioned, slightly mentioned, 168 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know if these are things I could 169 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: ever discuss at this stage, but perhaps one time sometime 170 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: in the future, who knows. Um, But we'll see if 171 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: it fits the narrative. We'll definitely dive on into that 172 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: and uh and share because um, you know, it's all 173 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: about sharing and putting information together that helps people to 174 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: connect the dots and connecting dots, that's what it's all about. 175 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: And you know, to to find this out many years 176 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: after I had published my first book on the topic 177 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: of UFOs and aliens. Um, you can't imagine my reaction, 178 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: can you can you imagine? Because I kind of jumped up, 179 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: like what what did you do? You track things, didn't you? 180 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: And you know, to have him keeping his his Uh 181 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: he's a very jovial type and to keep a straight 182 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: face and uh not have direct answers was like, oh my, 183 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, like you're part of the people that I've 184 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I've written about in the books and you know, it's 185 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: just unbelievable. So you know, the secrets get kept by 186 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: our government and uh, and we wonder why and how 187 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: and it's here it's our own brothers, sisters, you know, 188 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: and our dad's, our mothers and here it was my 189 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: own I had a clue, and I'm talking about This 190 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: is not knowledge I've had for very long at all, um, 191 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: just a few short years. And uh boy, they're really 192 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: good at this stuff. Is all I could tell you. 193 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: But so again, today the show is going to be 194 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: about some of the parent normal connections and mysteries that 195 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I personally have had with my father or shared with him, 196 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: and I want to share here with you as a 197 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: nice dedication to my dad, who sadly has recently passed. 198 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: So this is for you dad. Uh. Mr James Hollis, 199 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: you guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 200 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 201 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be 202 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: right back. Okay, folks, we need your music. 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You are listening to Dark Becomes Life with 213 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 214 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: to Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Today is a 215 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: unique show. I am dedicating this to my father, James Hollis, 216 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: who recently passed, and I wanted to connect stories that 217 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: involved my father in ways that you probably have never 218 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: heard of before and things that I'm learning about even today. 219 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of you who know of 220 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: my background having been grown up in a haunted house 221 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and I mean absolutely terrifying lee haunted. Um. You've heard 222 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: some of my stories when it comes to having experience 223 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: some of the bangings and uh, the disturbing um instances 224 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: where I was chased by things and just just horrible, 225 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: horrible stuff. And you know, some of these instances involved 226 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: my dad that he wouldn't really give a whole lot 227 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: of attention to it, and my sisters and I here 228 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: we are experiencing these horrible things. The first one being 229 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: when an Oregon started playing by itself and This was 230 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: about six months after my mother's passing. Unfortunately, on Christmas Day, 231 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: and imagine this, we just opened up all of our presence. 232 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: We're having a blast. My dad goes to wish others 233 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: a merry Christmas. My siblings and I are having a ball. 234 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're like sure, sure, whatever, you know, we're 235 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: involved in our new toys we just unwrapped. And uh, 236 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: and as we're enjoying ourselves, this organ that was recently 237 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: moved in starts playing by itself and I mean it's 238 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: hitting every low key it can absolutely fine. And it 239 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: was just bom bom bom bo, you know, just crazy, 240 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: no rhythm, just madness. And uh, my sisters and I 241 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: were unfamiliar with this organ. We realize that this thing 242 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: doesn't do this, and we freak out. We all scream. 243 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: We run into the bathroom unlocked the door, because what's 244 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: the most secure location in the house is a door 245 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: with a lock on it, and it was only the 246 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: bathroom that had it. Right, so my dad if it 247 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: seemed that forever this thing is doing that, and and uh, 248 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: there came a moment where I got kind of shoved 249 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: out of the bathroom door because my older sister just 250 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: like to do that kind of thing. And uh so 251 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this organ pound 252 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: around just crazily, and I couldn't take it anymore, and 253 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: I started dictating to my siblings. I'm gonna go get 254 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: the key and I'm gonna lock this thing, and uh 255 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: I finally do it stops playing when all of a sudden, 256 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: the sound was replaced by another noise and it turned 257 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: out to be my younger sister's new electronic guitar. And 258 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: this thing was going crazily as well. And I'm like, 259 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the batteries out of, you know, to 260 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: make this thing stop too, Right, I go to take 261 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the batteries out. There's no batteries and this thing is 262 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: continuing to play crazily, and I was just defeated. Um. 263 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: I finally just put my back to the bathroom door 264 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: where the rest of my siblings are hiding, and I 265 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: just slumped down and I just put my face in 266 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: my knees and like, this just can't be happening. And 267 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: it seemed to be going on forever, right, and all 268 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, my dad seemed to be Stepmom come 269 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: through the door. And it was just like something out 270 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: of the movies. My siblings come piling out, tripping over me, 271 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: trying to tell my dad how this took place in know, 272 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: and my Dad's like, I'll come on, kids, you know 273 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: what is this? And you know, very doubtful, and uh. 274 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Other instances occurred where uh he was very doubtful still, 275 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: and another occasion. I So my my dad decided he 276 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to live anywhere that anybody had ever lived before. 277 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, for a skeptical man about this haunting, 278 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: it's strange that you want to build a brand new house. Um. 279 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: So this one day, um, my come home from school 280 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: and my siblings and I have been through enough harassment 281 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: by whatever was in the house that we made a 282 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: promise to each other. Nobody goes in this house alone. Okay, 283 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: So my sister came home from school before me. She 284 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: would sit on the porch and wait for me, so 285 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: we'd both go into the house together so we wouldn't 286 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: have to face anything crazy alone. So this one day, 287 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I come home, I go into the house and she's 288 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: not on the porch. So I figure, well, maybe she 289 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: had to use the restroom. I don't know. Um and 290 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: I come in, I'm taking off my backpack and I'm like, 291 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, calling out her name, and I could hear 292 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: her she's in the kitchen and and I'm like, you know, 293 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: but she's not answering me. And I'm calling her name 294 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: and I'm calling her name, and I'm like, hey, you 295 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: know what's going on. I go into the kitchen and 296 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I heard what sounded like, you know, those kitchen drawers 297 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: or something being open, And sure enough, I go there 298 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: and the kitchen drawer is rattling by itself, and I'm like, 299 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: oh no, it gives me chills right now even thinking 300 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: about it. And I turned to run to go lock 301 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: myself in the bathroom because it's right behind me, and 302 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the door was locked. So I flew up the stairs 303 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: to the second floor bathroom and locked myself in there. 304 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: And the silverware that was in the drawer, I saw 305 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: it rise up and it was coming towards me and 306 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: it started banging on the bathroom door. Right I just 307 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: have children head to toe. You've been talking about it 308 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: right now, and and it was absolutely just torturing sitting 309 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: there alone. I had to be about nine years old 310 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: and just having this go on and on and on, 311 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, what happened to my sister? Oh my goodness, 312 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm here alone? Or is she in the bottom bathroom 313 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: locked in herself? When I don't know how long I 314 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: sat there before I heard somebody calling out my name 315 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: and I said, oh my gosh, this thing knows my name. 316 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: But I'm frozen and fear and I keep hearing my 317 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: name being called and I'm like, I am not answering. 318 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: I am not answering. And then I hear clumps up 319 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: the stairs and this voice is getting closer and closer, 320 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: and it's like, Heidi, are you in there? And I 321 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: had pulled out the bathroom drawer so the door couldn't 322 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: be opened all the way. And I barely opened up 323 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: the door to where the drawer stops it and I'm 324 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: like look, and it's my dad and he's like, open 325 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: the door. What are you doing? And I'm like, I 326 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: slammed the drawer and I like just jump into his 327 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: arms and I start telling of and then they're severwhere 328 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: and this and that, and he's like, what what are 329 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: you talking about? And then I looked down and there 330 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: was a spoon at the base of the door, and 331 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm like and there it is, there it is, and 332 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, come on, come on, come on. You know, no, no, no, 333 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: this is this would not have happened. You know, it's 334 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: o kids, your imagination. They forgot that. My sister had 335 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: an after school activity and I was alone in the house. 336 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: So my dad felt so bad and Buddy rescued me, 337 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: and I don't think I let my feet touch the 338 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: ground because I was horrified at what had just happened. Um. 339 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's wild to me that, you know, 340 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: he was such a skeptic and he gets a brand 341 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: new house built. And I didn't really connect the dots 342 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: at the time, but uh, it was because he had 343 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: endured things himself. He was terrified himself. I couldn't believe 344 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: he allowed us to be scared alone that uh he's 345 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: This is many many years later when we're all grown 346 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: up and we're talking about the haunted house, and my 347 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: dad chimes in, well, you know, I had probably the 348 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: worst experiences here and were like, what what are you 349 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: telling us? And he goes to say how he At 350 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: one point, it was soon after my mother passed. He 351 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: was of course having trouble sleeping and he was upset 352 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: and his bedroom door opened by itself, and he turned 353 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: to look and it closed behind him, and then his 354 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: blankets went up, and a very cold presence got in 355 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: the bed next to him, and he was paralyzed and 356 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: he couldn't do anything. And I believe he said he 357 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: passed out because he was so scared. Um. That was 358 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: one of his experiences. Within another one literally at the 359 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: witching hour or so, he would wake up to loud 360 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: poundings in the house that nobody seemed to know was 361 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: going on or here was going on except for him. 362 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: And he's like, it was so loud that it would 363 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: shake the whole house, and he couldn't believe that nobody 364 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: else was experiencing this. And long story short, he had 365 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: gone to investigate these loud poundings. He thought it was 366 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: his kids playing a joke on him, and nope, everybody 367 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: was sound asleep. And then something in the room where 368 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: he went to go check broken half flipped him out. 369 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: He ran back to his bed, and the next day 370 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: he thought, well, maybe there's a critter loose in the 371 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: house or something, and and he goes crawling through all 372 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: the crawl spaces to try to see if he could 373 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: find anything and to no avail, so, um, yeah, he 374 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: had experienced things and were like, well why why why 375 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: did you let us feel like we were going nuts, 376 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: that we're experiencing these things ourselves, and and he was 377 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: just very much nonchalant, like, well, a few kids knew 378 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: how scared I was. Then you surely wouldn't have been 379 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: able to stay in the home. And I'm like, you 380 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: know what, you got something there, dad, Yeah, because uh, 381 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: we definitely would have been shaken to our core if 382 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: he was shaken to his core. But he was absolutely 383 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: freaked out. And his big sense of humor, really jovial 384 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: type of guy, and uh, he just thought it was 385 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: the funniest thing. And he just giggled himself silly about it. 386 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, it's funny. Now. Back then, as 387 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: a child, you are absolutely terrified. And uh, you know, 388 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: when I think about like the paranormal elements and things 389 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: that I experienced, Um, probably one of the more mystical 390 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: things that I experienced. And I told my dad about it. 391 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: I had to be I don't know, maybe six seven 392 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: years old or so, and uh, I'd gone to church 393 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: to Sunday School and they were introducing the Book of revelations, 394 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like and they were gentle about 395 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: it and saying how the Book of Revelations in the 396 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: Bible tells of the end times and things to come, 397 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: and and it really struck a chord with me. And 398 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: uh that night when my dad went to tuck me 399 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: into bed, and I remember, you know, tears quietly coming 400 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: down my cheeks, and my Dad's like, what are you 401 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: upset about? What's going on? And I said, well, you know, 402 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: they spoke of this and and and my Dad's like, Oh, 403 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: that's nothing to be worried about. That's that's way in 404 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: the future. You don't ever have to worry about that happening. 405 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: The Book of Revelations and the world type of stuff. 406 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: And I remember between my tears, I said, no, Dad, 407 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here for that. And I remember him 408 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: literally looking at me with shock and just like holding me. 409 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: And I was really endearing memory that I have him, 410 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, trying to calm my fears about this end 411 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: of the world thing. And it's not so much an 412 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: end of the world thing as it is a time 413 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: of change. And that's something I truly truly believe in. 414 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: Still so very very special memory alright, guys, we're gonna 415 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: get to our next break. You are listening to Dark 416 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 417 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Parormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. 418 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 419 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 420 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Today is a special day for myself. 421 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: I am dedicating this show to my father, James Hollis, 422 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: who recently passed away, and connecting some of the more 423 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: mysterious things that have happened to me in my lifetime 424 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: that actually involved my dad or surrounded him. And you know, 425 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: when I think of some of these stories and some 426 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: of the elements that have happened, I just sit back 427 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: and and just say wow, you know, um. But also 428 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: it's really endearing to know that I did share some 429 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: things with him, and I think more than I even 430 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: I am fully aware of h to date. And you know, 431 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: on this program, I've talked about everything from angels to aliens, 432 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: um shadow people to Jesus encounters, and you know, I 433 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: can't help but to think and wonder how many of 434 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: these things in my dad also experience, but he was 435 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: a rather high ranking military guy and he kept mom 436 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: on it. And you know, interesting enough, I have also 437 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: spoke of my military my lab abductions, um is what 438 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: they're called, where you have these memories of having been 439 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: interrogated by those in military outfits camouflage or white shirt 440 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: with navy blue tie. And you know, when I first 441 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: experienced such a thing, I'm like, what on earth was that? 442 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: You know? I know what a dream feels like versus reality. Okay, 443 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I think we're all pretty good with that. Um. I 444 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: have had many, uh what I call as waking dreams, 445 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: where they're so real you cannot believe they didn't actually happen. 446 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: And I had those dreams, but but I could still 447 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: distinguish between the two to know that what's real and 448 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: what isn't. In his military situations were not typical who 449 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: dreams of seeing guys with rifles and camouflage asking me 450 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: about aliens or asking me about other things? And uh so, 451 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: is there a good possibility that my military abductions were 452 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 1: because of my dad's connections? Oh? Acrosses my mind? Um, 453 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: because I always wonder, well, why would they come my way? 454 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: First off, it was before I remembered a lot of 455 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: things for myself, so they knew before I did, new 456 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: before I did way before I wrote a book. Okay, 457 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I had these these things, So um, why why did 458 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: they did they think that I was in the know 459 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: of something? Uh? My dad's informed me on everything. You know, 460 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it makes you wonder, um, 461 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: and also you know what other things don't I recall 462 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: that they might have looked into or or it came 463 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: and questioned me about who knows and and how dare they? 464 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: How dare they? And and all honesty, it's probably the 465 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: worst memory I ever have in my life of having 466 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: somebody who thinks to have authority over you come and 467 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: do something, interrogating you in your pajamas. Those are my 468 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: pajamas every time, and uh, you know that's that's disgusting, 469 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: to be honest, it's angering. It's disgusting. Since when is 470 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: any kind of abduction Okay, whether it's alien or military, 471 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: if whether it's shrouded in your memory or not, it's 472 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: still happened to you and you could still have repercussions 473 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: of that and knowing that somebody violated you that way. 474 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: So not a great big fan knowing that anybody would 475 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: do such a thing. I don't care who would command 476 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: you to do it. You know, I could command you 477 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: to go do this or do that, and if you 478 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: do it, guess who's guilty you are? You listened? Uh, 479 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: including the person who commanded you. So not cool, not 480 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: on my high list of those that I'm a big 481 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: fan of to do such things. And and then to 482 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: hear my dad is part of the machine. I highly 483 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: doubt that he commanded this type of thing for military objections, 484 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: but it crosses my mind about what it is that 485 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: I might have encouraged these things to happen to me. Um, 486 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: even before I would put my first finger to even 487 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: paper to think I would ever write a book. I 488 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: was in college, you know. But I did write my 489 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: first book while in college, So who knows, um. But 490 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's other elements of my dad that makes 491 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: me wonder even further about his connections to these strange topics, 492 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: because guess what the I have a very clear memory 493 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: somehow being on board a ship. I know that sounds strange, 494 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: but I have a memory with her being beings there 495 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: who were watching as me and my dad sat while 496 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: we were standing face to face practicing telepathy, practicing it 497 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: and making jokes while we're doing it. I know it 498 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: seems so weird, but we literally like stood there like 499 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: this is this is old hat? Like they want to 500 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: see if we're still really good at this or not. 501 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: So me and my dad was like, okay, all right, 502 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, so we're there there. It was just like 503 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: almost somebody standing there with a pen and paper. Okay, 504 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: now go show me if you could still do this. Okay, 505 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: So me and my dad leaned forward. They want to 506 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: they want to see the conversation. No, here's a conversation. No, 507 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: is this funny? Hey? What why the duck crossed the road? Oh? 508 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was a chicken. You know. 509 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: We're just like back and forth doing this babble and 510 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, checked off, like okay, yeah, 511 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: you guys still got this. Okay, great, But it was 512 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: not human. That was, you know, checking to see that 513 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: we could still do this, because how could another human 514 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: check to see if we can still do this? Right? Um? 515 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: And the interesting part is I was very clear on 516 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: what part of my brain I was using to do this, 517 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: and it was in frontal low ups, both sides leaning 518 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: forward forehead to forehead type of thing almost and U 519 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: doing that. I'm like, WHOA, why do I have this 520 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: memory seeing my dad on board a ship? And I 521 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: had mentioned it to him and he was a man 522 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: of few words when it came to anything enquiring about him. 523 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: Now I know why. Um, So He's like interesting, that's all. 524 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: That's all. I pretty much had to say. I'm like, 525 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: really interesting, okay, dad, Um So why why was that? 526 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: So there was some kind of weird connection there I 527 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: was not aware of. Um And I still don't know. 528 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: I still don't know. I don't I don't. I don't 529 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: get it. Um why was that? But you know, there's 530 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: also this other clear memory that I have. This part 531 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: is not connected with him directly, but I would levitate, okay, 532 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and to do it on will and to focus on 533 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: it to be able to do that. And I can't 534 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: say it was on board a ship or anything like that. 535 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: This is just clear understanding memory that I have on 536 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: how to fly, how to move and and uh. And 537 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: I felt it came from the very center circular center 538 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: of my brain. And one day I sat and I 539 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: was like looking through scans of the brain and trying 540 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: to understand about where do I feel it coming from? 541 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: And I came to a conclusion the caught eight put 542 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: him in and I'm like, that is where I understand this. 543 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: This is coming from this energy, this this willpower and 544 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: the focus and where you put it to lift off 545 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: the ground now, um. And I would just like practice 546 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: this in this other state, this other place, and and 547 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I would wake up from this understanding that I 548 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: just did it and I was so sure I could 549 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: do it again. Right when I get up, I've almost 550 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: smashed my face into the ground because it's that it's 551 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: just that right there and so immediate for me to 552 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: have that understanding. UM. And I still I think about 553 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: it every so often, like I just know I can 554 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: do this, um, And then you know, this is this 555 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: is an interesting element. And this has been more in 556 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: recent years that I have had, UM. This this memory. UM, 557 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like a dream. And I don't 558 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: know if it's because I might have seen something in 559 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: the past, but it seems so very much a dream 560 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: or I don't know, I guess it's a dream. A 561 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: few times I've seen myself in a dark brown robe 562 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: that gathers in the center by some kind of chord 563 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: and um um flying kind of levitating, floating, floating and 564 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: uh and laughing while I was doing it, and being 565 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: in these prayer groups with with prayer circles like standing 566 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: and the others, I'm trying to pray with them, but 567 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: I start getting the giggles and I start kind of 568 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: bobbing up off the ground and they're they're almost like 569 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: hook their their arms with mine to keep me down, 570 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: and and I'm and it was like, oh, don't show, 571 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: don't show that you can do this. Don't show that 572 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: you can do this type of conversation. And I'm just 573 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, trying my best, but I'm giggling because I 574 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: think it's hilarious. Um, but then sometimes trying to keep 575 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: a straight face about it like Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm 576 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna fly. I'm not gonna I'm 577 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: not gonna do this and um, but it's just it's 578 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: so funny to me. Um, it didn't seem to come 579 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: from the caught eight put them into then. That just 580 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: seemed to be a part of me, like I would 581 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: just um fly like float um. Yeah. So I don't know. 582 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we see all these superhero movies and stuff 583 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: that exhibit people flying and what not, and then to 584 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: have these dreams of it but in the dark brown robes, 585 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: UM is what was interesting to me. So I am 586 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: UM trying to find out how and where that might 587 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: have come from. UM. But yeah, I don't know. I 588 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: don't know, UM, but it's it's interesting to me the 589 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: elements that make us who we are UM in this lifetime, 590 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: and these little parts of myself I find connect back 591 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: to my father and his intelligence and understanding in things 592 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: that I would have never thought. I mean, I knew 593 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: he's a computer engineer, a computer genius, and a an inventor. 594 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: I always say he's the first computer nerd on the 595 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: planet that I probably have ever known. UM. And he 596 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: built every computer I ever had up until the one 597 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: that I own today, UM, the one that I use, 598 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: I should say now, is an Apple. And he was 599 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: re frustrated, like really really that you just went against 600 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: everything I ever created right there, Like come on, Dad, 601 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's a good thing he built all 602 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: my computers prior though, because I constantly blew them up. 603 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: And he had this very understanding point to me, and 604 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: he's like, Heidi, do you know there are just some 605 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: people who have this problem with computers. So I could 606 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: set up an entire office, but I'll keep coming back 607 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: to fix the one computer because that person has something 608 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: about them that just vibes differently. He said. But it's okay. 609 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: So thank goodness he did that for me, because I 610 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: would have been through a thousand computers. Well, all right, guys, 611 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to our next break. You are listening 612 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the 613 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 614 00:38:53,160 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: Stick around, We'll be right back with age. 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You are listening to 623 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Like with me Heidi Hollis on the I 624 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 625 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: Today's show is a special one. I am speaking in 626 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: regard to connections to the mysterious, regarding myself and my father, 627 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: who sadly has recently passed. And you know, we are 628 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: all part of where we came from. And uh, I 629 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: always appreciate when you all send me your stories and 630 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: connect the dots with what's happened in your life. And 631 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: I thought I would do the same here. And you know, 632 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: there's so much to say, it really is, and um, 633 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: I feel very fortunate to have had some of the 634 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: experiences I've had with my dad, and I am sharing 635 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: some of the ones that stand out the most. And um, 636 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, in the last segment, I was talking about 637 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: the computer connection. UM my dad, I believe he was 638 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: one of the main ones, especially in the Midwest, who 639 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: helped train so many people how to build a computer, 640 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: taking it apart, program it, hack it, uh and uh 641 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: just so many different things that that that he did. 642 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: And everybody like, oh, you must be a computer whiz 643 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: then too, It's like, no, no, I'm not. Uh not 644 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: that I wasn't interested in it. Um. It was just 645 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: one of those things unless I could understand a hundred 646 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: percent of every element he was speaking on. Uh, he 647 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: didn't want us really playing with them. I'm like, I 648 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: just want to like draw on it, Dad, Can I 649 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: Can I do that? Or animate something? And no, no, no, 650 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: As this was like a work of art for him. 651 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: And now that's okay. I had had a good understanding 652 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: and respect for what it was he was doing. And 653 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: one day I actually went into his little workshop and 654 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: I counted how many computer monitors he had, and uh, 655 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I counted over fifty. It's like, you know, 656 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: to have this understanding of this little hum uh that 657 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: would come in the home was it was unmistakable. So 658 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: and I mean having the first video games and all 659 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean absolutely on a touch and on 660 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: top of all these different things, and uh, you know, 661 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: having this understanding, in this connection and and this really 662 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: endearing quality of myself. I just wanted to gain access 663 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: to all these computers that he had, but um, I 664 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: just couldn't do. It wasn't in the cards for that 665 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: to be done. And but it's okay. But it created 666 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: something in myself and and something that I think I 667 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: always had, and uh, it was a connection to inanimate objects. Like, 668 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, people have a name for their car or 669 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: something like that, and old Bessie will get going soon, 670 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: you know. Well, it didn't matter for me what the 671 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: item was. I just felt like there was a quality 672 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: that was an inner quality to surroundings. UM. Didn't matter 673 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: if it was your shoe or a tire. UM. I 674 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: felt like there was a connection, and I felt like 675 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: I had to be polite about that connection if I 676 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: wanted something of the item. So if I hit a volleyball, 677 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: I would kind of mentally ask it, do you want 678 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: to go? And when it would hit its target, I 679 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: would like give it mental praise. So in more recent 680 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: years I got to the understanding that I had something 681 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: called synesthesia UM thanks to Maureen Sieberg who introduced me 682 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: to the topic. And uh, and I'm like, oh, And 683 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: then she dubbed me to be something of a machine 684 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: EmPATH because having the connection with computers. First off, it's 685 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different elements inside of a computer, right, 686 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: And Uh, for me, when I would try to reach 687 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: out to have it work for me, I wasn't doing 688 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: the same respect that I did for other items. And 689 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: I learned this was causing a problem because computers would 690 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: constantly break and do the craziest things and and just 691 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: not work for me. Um. Didn't matter if it was 692 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of components, television or something. They just wouldn't 693 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: work for me. And then I realized I wasn't being 694 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: cordial so much like before you've had a dog, you 695 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of let's sniff your hands. So I started doing that, 696 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: and lo and behold, the computers and other gadgets started 697 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: doing wonders for me. In fact, they started doing things 698 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: that they really shouldn't be able to do. And uh, 699 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: and it almost started looking like poultrygeist type type activities. Um. 700 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: But I understood that at one point that this is 701 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: this is great. UM. I didn't know i'd be found 702 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: out to be considered something machine and path and I 703 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: have had I had an article that was written on 704 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: from maureenz Berg about this and and since then a 705 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: lot of people reach out and say, oh, I got 706 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: that too. I call my my uh computer this or 707 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: this or that, and it's like I feel they have 708 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: a connection with me as well, and I'm like, well 709 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: that's cool. Um for me, it's a step further because 710 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: they'll do stuff for me. Um and uh. After finding 711 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: out this is what I had. I was asked to 712 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: start documenting it and how I started to and I 713 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: took videos of you know, what these things are doing, 714 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: and um, it's just an ongoing thing. So um. You know, 715 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: my my father, uh, I think helped inspire that because 716 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: he had computers around me. It was something I really 717 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: wanted to endure and to understand that some people had 718 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: these complications and he understood that. Um it was it 719 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: helped me to understand I needed to fix that complications 720 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: so I could get computers and stuff to work for me. So, um, 721 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: that was something. But you know, I had another really 722 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: cool memory that that occurred that involved my father that 723 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, it just blows my mind because he was 724 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: so involved in so many different things and he had 725 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: better understandings than he ever let on. Um. But so 726 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: you know, I started having out of body experiences when 727 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: I was a kid, and those experiences involved seeing myself 728 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: my ceiling and then the next night flying through the 729 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: neighborhood and uh, I thought, whoa. You know, I knew 730 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: it was real because I saw stuff that I didn't 731 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: know was in the neighborhood, you know, as a kid, 732 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: and I got confirmation on it. But the next day 733 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: after I had one of these flights, I was outside 734 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: playing and you know, I have aluminum sighting on the 735 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: side of the house right and and it was kind 736 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: of a matte color, but the sun hit it just right, 737 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: and I saw something outside of my window and I 738 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: called over my sister. I'm like, look at this. And 739 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: it was just bare feet, like sweaty, very sweaty bare 740 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: feet going straight up the side of the house, all 741 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: the way up. It gives me chills straight up. And 742 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: and I had told my sister about my autobidy experience, 743 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: and we get my dad to come over and take 744 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: looks like, Dad, look at this, and he's like. He 745 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: comes out and he's like and he looks at both 746 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: of us, and I'm I'm putting my foot and I'm like, 747 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my foot fits. I'm like this this 748 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: these are my footprints, you know. And my Dad's like, 749 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: you kids are playing a joke, right, We're like what, 750 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: We're too little, first off, to even get a ladder 751 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: to do such a thing, and to go straight up 752 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: the side of the house. I mean, we would use 753 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: mud or something. We weren't known to do. This kind 754 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: of a crazy experiment of of jokes and uh but 755 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: I remember seeing that that peculiar, bewildered look on his face, 756 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: like whoa, oh you know who did this? And I 757 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: had an understanding then that, you know, there might be 758 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: things that happened that everybody can't understand. But I don't know. 759 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: But for some reason, I felt like he may have 760 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: understood more than he did at that time. And uh, 761 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: but you know, we did have a really really cool 762 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: uh connection. You know, I know he was puzzled by 763 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: some of the things that I wrote about, and uh, 764 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: I know that he was curious why I didn't use 765 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: a pen name. And I told him, I said, Dad, 766 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: he didn't have any sons, and I'm going to abuse 767 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: your last name for what it's worth. I said it. Besides, Heidi, 768 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: Holla sounds good together he AD's my real name. A 769 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: lot of people questioned that, and I'm like, no, it 770 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: really is. Uh So he just left it alone, and uh, 771 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: little did I know it was Probably there's other motives 772 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 1: in that too, because of his connections. Um, I don't know, 773 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: but just just kind of mind blowing that he would 774 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: even asked such a thing. Um. But you know what, 775 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: one night he called me super excited, and he was like, Heidi, 776 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: I understand, I get it. I get it. I'm like, 777 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: what what do you mean. He's like, I just saw something. 778 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: I just saw something. I'm like, what did you see? 779 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: He's like, I saw a very bright light that went 780 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: right across the horizon and kept going straight, and it 781 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: just lit up the nights guy as it continued to 782 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: go straight. He said, it didn't arc, it didn't do this, 783 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: it didn't do that. And he's like, I get it. 784 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 1: I see how when you would see something so magnificent, 785 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: it changes your whole way of thinking. And I'm like, wow, Dad, yeah, yeah, exactly. 786 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: You're like he was certain he saw UFO. He was certain. Now, 787 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: little did I know he had trained eyes of a 788 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: nora ad guy um who ran the entire station. Little 789 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: did I know that. And so his judgment was very, 790 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: very specific, and he was very convinced what he had 791 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: witnessed was not natural, it was not typical. And I'm like, Wow, 792 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: my dad could relate to me for the first time ever. 793 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: This is this is fabulous. The next night he calls 794 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: me up and he's like, well, the news said it 795 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: was a meteor. I'm like, I saw that Dad, He's like, 796 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that thing kept going straight. I was like, yeah, Dad, 797 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: I believe you. He's like, he's like, I was really 798 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: excited that it might have been what you've been experiencing. 799 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, I was hoping too, But he was really 800 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: kind of lit down. But I don't know if he 801 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: was that convinced either. I really don't. But you know, 802 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: we had that understanding there for the moments, and uh 803 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 1: and I hold on to it, and I honestly think 804 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: that he does too. And uh, I'd like to think 805 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: that he's in a much better place and that his 806 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: service to this country for twenty three years was reflective 807 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: of his character. Volunteer for habitat humanity, for equal rights, 808 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: and uh, in all honesty, as some of the things 809 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: that he accomplished in his lifetime is unheard of, born 810 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: in ninety six, being an African American man, uh two 811 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: done what he does. I I think that he may 812 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: have been the first African American to have running or 813 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 1: at station for all I know. But um, these things 814 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: are not out in the open fully, and some of 815 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,959 Speaker 1: the things that took place for all I know, So 816 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: uh yeah, but you know, this one's for your dad, 817 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: and I want to thank you so much for all 818 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: that you've done. And uh, it's been a pleasure of 819 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: being your daughter, and you did a great job and 820 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: you're dearly loved. All right, everybody, Uh, be sure to 821 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: go to my main website, Heidi Hollis dot com. Send 822 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 1: me your stories, tell me what's on your mind. If 823 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: there's something that you'd like me to share here on 824 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: this program, you are more than welcome to suggest that. 825 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: And um, you know, a very special show for myself. 826 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, my dad would be dearly missed 827 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 1: and he left his mark and I continue leaving marks 828 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: in his name, and God bless you dad. All right, guys, 829 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: you have been listening to Dark Becomes Light with me 830 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 831 00:51:43,800 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stay blessed, everybody. Goodbye. 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