1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every day 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: one till four o'clock. After four o'clock John Cobelt Show 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeart app, and you listen to 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: what you missed in that first hour. We did a 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: lot on in La another La Times expose about the 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Palisades fire. It is hard to believe. Every few days, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: another revelation, and often the revelations are about all these 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: officials lying, lying and then shutting down, disappearing, refusing to comment. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: And the latest is about the interim fire chief, Ronnie Vanueva. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: He took over after Kristin Crowley was fired by Karen Bass. 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: When Crowley pointed out that Bass had basically defunded the 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: fire department and they didn't have the personnel or the 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: fire trucks of the mechanics necessary. Of course, Crowley her 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: sins included not deploying existing fire trucks, personnel, not following 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: up on the January first fire, and that January first 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: fire is looming more and more important as time goes by. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: It was set by an arsonist. They caught the arsonist. 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: He's going to go on trial eventually, and but for 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: the after they put it out, and they put it 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: out relatively quickly. It was it was a small fire 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about Acridge. But on January second, January third, 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: and in the days following, they they they were hotspots. 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: There were hotspots, and the firefighters wanted to put them out, 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: hot tree stumps, hot rocks, smoke, smoldering and inexplicably, inexplicably, 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: the battalion chiefs said, let's go home, roll up the hoses. 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: And then you had via Aweva ronnie Vi in a Weeva. 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: He claimed that on January third, we cold trailed the 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: fire area. We went back there again. We dug it out, 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, they put their hands to feel for he 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: they dug out the hotspots, We put letters on it. 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: We cold trailed again. We did all of that. Did 33 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: none of that, according to the log in their records, 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: doesn't mention cold trailing, doesn't mention any action. In fact, 35 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: they sent everybody home after thirty four minutes. The fire 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: department spokesperson contacted by the La Times, Captain Eric Spott, 37 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Eric Scott. Rather they sent him emails, they sent him 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: text they sent him in person. The agency refuses to 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: explain the in AEVA, does not respond to any requests 40 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: for interviews, does not respond with any comments at all, 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: So the cover up continues. Let's talk now to Sayed Kashani, 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: the attorney who has been on our show a number 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: of times. He's going to the meetings. He was burned 44 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: out in the palisades, sayed, how are you? Sayed beeped 45 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: at me and is he gone. We'll figure out what's 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: wrong with the connection, because I don't know how to 47 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: interpret a beat. By the way, former LA Fire Department management, 48 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: like battalion chief said Battalion Chief Rick Crawford for Assistant 49 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: Chief Patrick Butler said, you know, if you're going to 50 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: do an after action report, it's got to include the 51 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: period before the fire, especially since one fire led to 52 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: the next, and this after action report that the fire 53 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: department put out addressed none of that, saied Kashani. 54 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: How are you john to have good to be back 55 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: on our show? 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Well, what do you make of all this here? 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: Well, as you know, my my focus has been on 58 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: the water supply in the reservoir from day one of this, 59 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: and we had an additional whitewash from the state on 60 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: this issue. You may recall it. About two months ago, 61 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: we had a conversation John in which we gust and 62 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: we predicted that the state was going to issue a 63 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: report which we'll say, nothing to see here. The reservoir 64 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't have made any difference if it were full of 65 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: water at the time of the fire. Well and behold, 66 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: two days ago we got a report from the state 67 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: claiming nothing to see here. The reservoir would have made 68 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: no difference during this fire, which is exactly as we predicted. 69 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: But this report, as we said, is self serving and 70 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: not credible. First of all, who authored this report. It 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: came from five California agencies. Three of the agencies are 72 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: involved in so called clean water regulations, that's California EPA, 73 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: California Water Quality Management, these entities. These are the same 74 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: entities and government agencies that forced DWP to drain the reservoir. 75 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: So the same agencies that required the reservoir to be 76 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: drained in two thousand and four are now coming out 77 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: and claiming, oh, this is to make any difference. Well, 78 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: what else are they going to say? They're the ones 79 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: responsible for draining the reservoir. Obviously they're not going to 80 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: come forward and admit that, oh, because we drained the reservoir, 81 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: this caused a problem. Obviously they're going to claim that 82 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have made any difference in the fire would 83 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: have burned all these houses anyway. So right now, right away, 84 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: Number one, lack of credibility. Number two, what is the 85 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: information in the report? There's no information in the report. 86 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: The report from these state agencies is just repeating claims 87 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: from the Department of Water and Power. So it's just 88 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: circular reasoning. They're repeating what the DWT claimed actually on 89 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: a press release they made back in July, where the 90 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: Department of Water Power just gave some basic nonsense about 91 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: well we've got a flow ray and we've got this 92 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: and that, and no details or facts or information, just 93 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: claiming well, this is our system works. Well, the state 94 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: jumped on that and said it wouldn't have made any difference. Now, 95 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: if you want to get into the details, I can 96 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: do that too. But this report is just more of 97 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: the same whitewash were getting from government agencies covering up 98 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: their own mistakes, issuing self serving reports. No independent investigation 99 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: of what happened or why it happened. 100 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: There is no investigation coming from the state Attorney General 101 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: or from the Assembly or the Senate. There should be 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: a committee hearing into the reservoir situation. And then this 103 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: new report today cold trailing never done at the Lockman fire. 104 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I mean, all we now have after action state report, 105 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: after action local report has told us nothing and covered 106 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: up all the bad acts and all the negligence. And 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: maybe the FEDS can investigate this stuff. I know they 108 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: started with that public hearing last week. I don't know 109 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: if they're going to follow through. There seems to be 110 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: no curiosity on the part of people those who in charge. 111 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: Well, the US Attorney is doing some investigation, but you 112 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: know they're trying to shut him down too. I mean, 113 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: I had to put a party label on it. I 114 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: didn't want to get to so much into the politics here, 115 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: but the Democrats in Congress have been trying to shut 116 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: down and get fired our local US attorney who's the 117 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: only one who did an investigation or found the arsonists 118 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: and also has been trying to investigate what happened in 119 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: the Lackman fire, whether it was put out, whether there 120 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: was sufficient control and clearance after the fire, and the 121 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: Democrats in Congress have been trying to shut him down. 122 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: The state filed the lawsuit against the US attorney to 123 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: try to remove him from his post. 124 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: One of the things about the water Reservoir report, and 125 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: this has fried me from the beginning, is they keep 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: talking about they had a regulation they had to put 127 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: they had to replace the cover because it's used for 128 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: drinking water. This was not a necessary drinking water reservoir. 129 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: It was built for firefighting. In fact, since the reservoir 130 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: was empty for a year, there was no shortage of 131 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: drinking water in the Palisades at all. But they intentionally 132 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: confused those issues to make it seem like, hey, we 133 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: were mandated by law to repair this reservoir, and even 134 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: if they were, it should have taken a month, not 135 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: a year. 136 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: Not only that there was no reason to drain the 137 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: reservoir where they were waiting and going through their so 138 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: called contracting process to find someone to fix the cover. 139 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: They even if we accept, even if we agree, which 140 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: I don't agree. And there's a professor at UCLA, you 141 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: should talk to depitheologist who has done a study of 142 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: this area and shown that there's no water risk whatsoever, 143 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: no risk of contamination, no risk of any problem to 144 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: the water spright but let's put that aside. All they 145 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: had to do was shut off the valve that runs 146 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: from the reservoir to the drinking water supply, leaves the 147 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 2: reservoir full until you're ready to fix the cover, and 148 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: meanwhile the water is sitting there in the case of 149 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: an emergency, in a fire emergency, you open the valve 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: and the water is available. But instead they drained it 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: lad And now the same state agencies that forced the 152 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: DWT to drain the reservoir are now saying, Oh, this 153 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't have made any difference. I can't stand what they're saying. 154 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: I can't. I mentioned this earlier in the show. I 155 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: met a couple on a hiking trail on the Palisades. 156 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: He saved this house with his own two and a 157 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: half inch fire hose because he'd gone through a fire 158 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: as a child with his family, and so he wet 159 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: down his property in his roof and he saved several 160 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: homes around him, and nobody from the fire department ever 161 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: showed up to do anything useful. All by himself with 162 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: one hose, he saved several homes. I think the one hundred 163 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: and seventeen million gallons would have made a difference going 164 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: out on my neighbor. 165 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: My neighbor three houses down was out there with the 166 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: fire hose and he was able to keep his house 167 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: free of fire and safe until about ten thirty eleven 168 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: o'clock the first night when the water shut off. All 169 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: it took was a little bit of water. In many areas, 170 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: there were not sheets of flames. Some inferno are running 171 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: down the hill destroying everything. We're talking about embers. We're 172 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: talking about floating, small pockets of fire that could easily 173 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: have been controlled with a small amount of water. Many 174 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: of the houses had sprinklers, sprinkler systems indoor and outdoor, 175 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: which could have controlled the fire. Right, hang on, hang 176 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: on just a second one to continue system. 177 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta take a break. Do the news. 178 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 179 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: M six forty. 180 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: We continued with Palisades attorney say Ed Kashani lost his 181 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: house in the fire, and he has been tracking meetings. 182 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: He's been tracking all the reports. We've been discussing the 183 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: after action report from the state over the reservoir situation 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: and the lack of water which was completely whitewashed. UH 185 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: and then the report from the after action report from 186 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: the LA Fire Department, same thing, completely white whitewashed the 187 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: lack of treatment to the original fire, which led to 188 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: the second fire. And we've got a situation, obviously now 189 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: where everyone is officially not taking any responsibility for all 190 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: their bad actions, their inactions, the damage they caused, their 191 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: lack of response, their lack of preparation. I mean, it's 192 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: a fiasco of monumental proportions, and nobody. Nobody's commenting anymore, 193 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: nobody's putting anything in the reports. We're all just supposed 194 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: to go home. So is this the way it's going 195 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: to be. What is everybody's supposed to do about this situation? 196 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Well, the two ways that we're going to get the information. 197 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: The one is if again as we've talked before, if 198 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: there's an independent investigation, meaning a federal investigation, and the 199 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: state and the locals are doing their best trying to 200 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: shut down the federal investigation, but some of it is 201 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: continuing with the US Attorney and possibly the said investigation. 202 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: The other way, actually they're doing a very good job, 203 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: is the private attorneys prosecuting the lawsuits against the city 204 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: in the state. They've done excellent research and come up 205 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: with excellent information. I know you've had some of them 206 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: on your show, Roger. They're doing a very good job. 207 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting, what the state is doing 208 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: in a way is self defeating, because do you remember 209 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: about two weeks ago the governor pooh pooed these lawsuits. 210 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: He came out and said these losses are frivolous, and 211 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: arsenals said this fire forget it. The very next stay 212 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: what happened, some firemen came forward whistleblowers and said, hey, 213 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: wait a minute. We wanted to secure the site, eliminate 214 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: the hospots and fires, but we were told to leave. 215 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: So the more the state squeezes and tries to suppress information, 216 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: the more whistleblowers come forward and maybe tell us the truth. 217 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: That's really the only hope is that they're getting so angry, 218 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: so pissed off at everyone lying and covering up, they're 219 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: going to say the hell with it. They're all afraid 220 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: of getting fired. Though. I think every man and woman 221 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: in the LA Fire Department who knows something important doesn't 222 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: want to talk publicly, doesn't want their name attached to 223 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: it because Karen vasseill get rid of them. 224 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: Well, they saw what happened to their former chief chief Crowley, 225 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: so possible they're afraid of that, but there are protections 226 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: for firemen who come forward and make statements. I just 227 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: hope that some of them are brave enough and conscious 228 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: is enough to come forward. Some obviously have made statements, 229 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: not necessarily on the record, but they've made statements and 230 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: they've told information. So they people need to come forward 231 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: and tell the truth. That's the only way we're going 232 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of this. 233 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: All right, thank you for coming on, Saed. 234 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: Sure, thank you for having me appreciate it, all. 235 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: Right, said Kashan. He's an attorney, and I've learned outside 236 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: the LA Times there aren't too many other sources of 237 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: reliable information. And he has been because he's actually read 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: all the reports and he's gone to the meetings. And 239 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: we don't have an infrastructure here anymore to investigate and 240 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: report on what really happened and why it happened. And 241 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: there's nobody to make all these people accountable. Nobody's gotten fired. 242 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Newsome's still in office. He's running for president. Bass is 243 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: still in office. She's running for reelection. Jenise Kinoniez is 244 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: still getting her seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars salary. 245 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: Kristin Crowley is still working for the fire department. She 246 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: got demoted and sent to an office, but she's working. 247 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Ronnie van Oweva is still working. All these and then 248 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: this new one Hi Memore, and none of them are 249 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: telling the truth. None of them are being forthcoming, all 250 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: of them are stonewalling, all of them are evading responsibility. 251 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: All of them think we're a bunch of idiots. The 252 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: spokespeople have even stopped talking. Well again, this is not 253 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: going away because there's too much juicy stuff that's come 254 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: out just in recent weeks, and there's a whole lot 255 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: more to come. So all the people that care, you know, 256 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: the the attorneys, as he pointed out, they were doing 257 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the lawsuits, the Ali Times writers, what we're doing here, 258 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: people like say Ed Kashani, We're just going to keep 259 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: at it and we'll find out it's never going to 260 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: go away. Karen Bass will be connected that fire. Gaven 261 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Newsen will be connected that fire every day for the 262 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: rest of his life. We're going to see to that. 263 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: And same thing with Genie Canonias, and the same thing 264 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: with the rest of these Charlatans. Clowns and jokers. You 265 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: think you think you can kill people and get away 266 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: with it. You think you can burn a whole town 267 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: down and get away with it. You really think you 268 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: can do that? Huh, Well, you're not going to more 269 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: coming up. 270 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 271 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: six forty. 272 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: So many lives coming out of the fire. Karen Bass 273 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: had one. You probably heard the story that the first 274 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: home in the Palisades has been rebuilt, right, and Karen 275 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Bass took credit. She wrote in a statement, the Palisades 276 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: community has been through an unimaginable year, and my heart 277 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: breaks for every family that won't be able to be 278 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: home this holiday season. Right, but today is an important 279 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: moment of hope. With more and more projects nearing completion 280 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: across the Palisades. There are zero projects nearing completion. The 281 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles remains committed to expediting every aspect 282 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: of the rebuilding process until every family is back home. Okay, 283 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: that's because one home was given a certificate of occupancy. 284 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: That home was purchased in early November and was not 285 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: burned in the fire. They had to halt the rebuild 286 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: while the disaster happened, but the the home wasn't burned. 287 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: She's taking credit that. Look, we're on our way. This 288 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: is the first rebuild since this was in the works 289 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: before the fire. They had to stop because of the fire, 290 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: but the property was not damaged by the fire. I mean, 291 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: she is shameless and she thinks again that nobody's going 292 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: to notice. In fact, it ended up being delayed because 293 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: of debris removal, plan checks and permit reviews. Now the 294 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: house is finished and was publicly celebrated by Karen Bass 295 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: as a sign that we're building is taking shape. No, 296 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: at this stage, out of all the homes that were burned, 297 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: none of them have been rebuilt. Three hundred permits out 298 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: of nearly seven thousand bird structures, three hundred, none of 299 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: them to completion. The home was assessed for sale two 300 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: months before the fire and sold shortly thereafter. The building 301 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: plans were submitted soon after the purchase. Final approval didn't 302 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: come till April. Total absolute nonsense and lies. Meantime, up 303 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: in Sacramento, we've been telling you about all the corruption 304 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: going on there, and if you remember, last week, the 305 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: FBI had sent letters to many politicians, staff members, lobbyists 306 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: in Gavin Newsom's orbit and in the Sacramento government. And 307 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: this came right after Newsom's former chief of staff, Deana 308 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: Williamson was indicted on twenty three felony charges she and 309 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: a couple of others were looting money from an account 310 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: that was owned by Xavier Bessera's political Action committee or 311 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: his campaign committee. And now The New York Times has 312 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: done a story. They had a lot of reporters sniffing 313 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: around Sacramento these people, and there were dozens and dozens 314 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: of them had their phone calls and text messages and 315 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: emails intercepted, phone calls and text messages captured on a 316 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: wire tap. Many of them have worked together for decades. 317 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: According to The New York Times, they work in a 318 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: several block radius around the state capitol, drinking at the 319 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: same ordering holes, dining on their clients' tabs, and sharing 320 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: the same prostitutes. No, that doesn't say that people are 321 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: on edge, says Rob Stut's been a long time Republican strategist. Day, 322 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: he's got a lot to do. He did not get 323 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: a letter. There's a lot of wondering if this is 324 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: all there is now. I don't know about you, but 325 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: if I had my phone calls intercepted, I would not 326 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: be worried about corruption charges. Might be worried about some 327 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: of the foul things that I say privately, but not 328 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: on corruption charges. If all these people are nervous and 329 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: skittish and they're all whispering and gossiping to each other, 330 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: it's they're worried that they're going to get caught. They're 331 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: worried that they have incriminating information. They came out of 332 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: their mouths and onto the recording. A handful of Newsom's 333 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: current and former aids received the letters the governor. The 334 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Governor's office has confirmed that numerous lobbyists were on the 335 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: FBI's mailing list. Some of the people who got the 336 00:20:51,359 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: letters weren't in California. They were in Malli. They were 337 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: on some other some other junket, some corrupt junket, some 338 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: kind of Maui conference. One more thing on the fire. 339 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: Politico has a story about how there was supposed to 340 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: be something called the Resilient Rebuilding Authority for Alta, Dina 341 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and the Palisades, and it looks like that idea has collapsed. 342 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: It was going to be a master plan for the 343 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: recovery effort, and it would have funding to carry it out. 344 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: But now the whole thing's collapsed. Everybody is on their own. 345 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: According to assemblymen, a Democrat who represents Altadena named John Harrobedian, 346 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: this is a ticking time bomb. We don't have time 347 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: to wait. The victims are hurt. The fire victims are 348 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: really struggling, and it's getting worse and worse because they've 349 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: had to spend all their savings, they're taking on debt. 350 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: More than half the residents had less than a year 351 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: of displacement coverage remaining on their insurance, where they never 352 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: had eddy at all. And here's another angle that is 353 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: the first time I'm eating about this. Insurance covers a 354 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: temporary home maybe for a year, a year and a half, 355 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: and then you're out of luck. And because the city 356 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: and county are so slow and stupid. But you see, 357 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: but what did Bass do? People can't get permits still 358 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: at a city hall. There is one house that was built. 359 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: She takes credit for it, except that house was not 360 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: burned in the fire. That property was purchased before the fire. Meantime, 361 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: people are now running out of insurance to cover their 362 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: costs because you know, by the way the uh, the 363 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: delay that people got. They don't have to pay their 364 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: mortgage for a year that's running out too. 365 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so people, you know, I never really thought about. 366 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: That, not in either. It's stuff and that's so unfair. Yeah. 367 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: They something you don't think about unless you're involved in 368 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: something like this. How long do the benefits run out? 369 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: And the insurance companies you know, are still refusing to pay. 370 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: Those insurance come I mean they you know, this is 371 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 5: why I wish I believed in an afterlife heaven and hell, 372 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 5: God and Satan, because then I would know all the 373 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 5: insurance executives would be in hell. Yeah, and I would 374 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 5: feel good every I'd wake up and it's like, you know, 375 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 5: a lot of times running out on them. They're another 376 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: day closer to burning in hell forever, which is where 377 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 5: insurance executives. 378 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: Ought to come on Ricardo, Laura, what are you gonna 379 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: do about this? 380 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 381 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: Right, stop traveling on our dime. 382 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: He's another one who escaped after not only incredible incompetence, right, 383 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: he engineered There were forms that the insurance industry agreed 384 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: to two months before the fire, which allowed them to 385 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: abandon thousands of homeowners just cut off their insurance happened 386 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: to a lot of people in the Palisades, and and 387 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: and Lara engineered it because he botched it. He thought 388 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: he was making it so most people were guaranteed to 389 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: get insurance. He actually made it so most people would 390 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: lose insurance. The insurance companies out foxed him, and then 391 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: he complained they bullied me. And then you have the 392 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: scandal of the dozens of trips he took. 393 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, charge, I'd like to go on a safari, thank 394 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 4: you very much, but I'm going to end up paying 395 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: for it on my own. No one else is paying 396 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 4: for it. 397 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: You're not corrupt. 398 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 4: I'm not. 399 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not convincing. 400 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 4: I'm not. 401 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you're just covering it up. 402 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: With you're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI 403 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: Am sixty. 404 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: And listen to you meant people melting down in airports 405 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: and on airplanes. They scream at people who can't possibly 406 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: who have nothing to do with whatever the delay is 407 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: and can't do anything to relieve the delay. Don't play 408 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: you a clip that somebody took and posted on tiktop. 409 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: It's a Southwest Airlines passenger, a young woman at the 410 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: Denver airport and she's screaming at a gate agent because 411 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: a flight is late. The funny thing is, this woman 412 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: is screaming, she's holding up the phone, her phone. The 413 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: whole time she's screaming. People like to thrust out in 414 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: front of them like it's some kind of weapon, like 415 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: it's some kind of shield. So she's screaming waving the phone. 416 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: But the TikTok video gives you a shot of the 417 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: gate agent. This lady's not wrapped too tight, she's not 418 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: wearing she's wearing not one, but two masks. So you 419 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: have a crazy lady whose plane is late, waving her 420 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: phone in the air at a woman who has two 421 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: masks on her face. And I just I couldn't get 422 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: enough of the video. Listen to the audio. Do you 423 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: guys feel safe? If you guys feel safe? How dare 424 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: you treat me this way? You want our play legs? 425 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Why you tell me I can't go. 426 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: There, legs because we have the schedule. 427 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Where is the camera rolling in the air? Eventually, Tom, 428 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna come, Who's gonna come and get you fired? 429 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: Because it is not okay. 430 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: Okay? I you why is our place not bording? And 431 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: you told me that I can't go because you've a 432 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: full of flies and you need to get to see 433 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: some one out. Wow, here comes the cops to arrest her, 434 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: and some people in the crowd start to cheer. Boy 435 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: she I do you think she's married? God help? The 436 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: guy has to wake up and then listen to that 437 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: every morning, Holy mackerel, the uh and and the lady 438 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: she's screaming at is wearing two masks. And I look 439 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: at that and I go, what what went wrong in 440 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: the world? 441 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: When? 442 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: When? Where did all these people come from? Well? How 443 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: could you not deal with a with a delay at 444 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: the airport? I don't know why she got kicked off. 445 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Maybe she got kicked off because she was screaming at everybody. 446 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: That might be a clue there. All right, we'll see 447 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Mark Thompson is in for Conway next. Is 448 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: that correct? Did I get proper intelligence on that? All right? 449 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: Mark Thompson in for Conway LC tomorrow. Michael Krozer is 450 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: the news live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 451 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 452 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 453 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 454 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.