Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty arm Strong and
Speaker 1: Jettie and he.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Eddy. I can't believe it. It is the
Speaker 2: most puzzling, wonderful, rewarding thing I think we've seen in
Speaker 2: baseball in many, many years.
Speaker 1: He is the talk of.
Speaker 2: The baseball world in English and Spanish and any other
Speaker 2: language that's close at hand.
Speaker 3: Fernando Valenzuela, Fernando Valenzuela, the Dodgers, and the Dodgers are
Speaker 3: back in the World Series, so there'll be a lot
Speaker 3: of nostalgia for that amazing picture from back in the day.
Speaker 1: Who died at the age of sixty three? What do
Speaker 1: you die of? That's not very old.
Speaker 4: I don't actually know. I hadn't dug into it AnyWho.
Speaker 4: I was not part of his medical team.
Speaker 5: He was unhittable for like a couple of seasons there,
Speaker 5: just absolutely unhittable, right, And he was kind of a pudgy,
Speaker 5: unassuming looking, uh Mexican guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and just filthy stuff though, as we
Speaker 1: say in the baseball world.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and good times and really credited with I didn't
Speaker 5: realize this, but that it really opened up the whole
Speaker 5: Spanish player thing and players from other countries coming over.
Speaker 5: It really, you know, brought us to the baseball we
Speaker 5: got today where a lot of the best players don't
Speaker 5: speak English and are for some from some other country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I don't love exactly, but you know, it
Speaker 4: is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a global sport.
Speaker 5: Fernando, by the way, I heard this on NPR today,
Speaker 5: could speak English. He just didn't want to, so he
Speaker 5: was did did everything through an interpreter, right, he did
Speaker 5: everything to an interpreter.
Speaker 1: He just didn't want to talk to people.
Speaker 5: I don't blame him. I don't blame the media. He
Speaker 5: didn't want to talk to the media, right. AnyWho, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I get that.
Speaker 1: Fernando.
Speaker 4: What were you thinking as you face Jones in the
Speaker 4: fourth inning?
Speaker 1: No, come friend?
Speaker 5: What do you think I was thinking? I was thinking,
Speaker 5: I want to get the frigging guy out.
Speaker 1: What a stupid question.
Speaker 5: Are you disappointed in the way the season ended? Yeah,
Speaker 5: we lost, of course, I am what them thrilled. I
Speaker 5: was hoping we'd have a crappy season. Shut up, No,
Speaker 5: come friendly, that's easier. Uh, that's funny. So we're thirteen
Speaker 5: days out and things are getting super ugly. I guess
Speaker 5: behind the scenes. According to a couple of different journalists,
Speaker 5: I read the pressure. I was just reading this, the
Speaker 5: pressure on news outlets to not do anything that could
Speaker 5: possibly help Trump is a fever pitch wow, which you know,
Speaker 5: I do not doubt that for a second. What sort
Speaker 5: of pressure can you describe the sort of pressure you
Speaker 5: think their feeling, because I'm picturing everything from in the
Speaker 5: pickup line for their kids that they're very expensive private schools,
Speaker 5: to their social circles, you know, I'm getting in their newsrooms.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing that a lot of it is professional and
Speaker 5: personal that what you just described there. It's just all
Speaker 5: your friends agree with your politics and will give you
Speaker 5: so much crap if you do anything that's within one
Speaker 5: hundred miles of balanced coverage of the election.
Speaker 1: Right right.
Speaker 4: And you have to remember, as our fellow cynics, I
Speaker 4: think a lot of you are, that a lot of
Speaker 4: these people buy the most overheated of their own rhetoric.
Speaker 4: And so if I were to do a story critical
Speaker 4: of Kamala, I would be ushering in the new Hitler,
Speaker 4: Who's going to end our democracy? You know, getting him
Speaker 4: a foot closer to the White House and that's unforgivable
Speaker 4: from their fevered point of view.
Speaker 5: We got such a good example for you here. So
Speaker 5: I mentioned yesterday, I came in, I said, good gud.
Speaker 5: I watched the ABC Evening News last night, and it
Speaker 5: is as if the newscast because everybody's doing the first
Speaker 5: segment pretty much on the election. Although last night they
Speaker 5: did a first segment on McDonald's quarter pounders, which is
Speaker 5: one of my favorite topics making people sick across the country,
Speaker 5: including killing a person apparently.
Speaker 1: Not in the usual way, just the coli apparently.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not in a slow you get obese and lethargic way,
Speaker 5: but it's got.
Speaker 1: A coasease, etc. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, so I was watching the ABC Evening News and
Speaker 5: I was like, are you kidding me? This is ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to at least pretend. Well, here's
Speaker 5: an example. This is from Monday night, because it was
Speaker 5: a big news weekend with all kinds of different stuff
Speaker 5: happened to the both campaigns. Here's Nora O'Donnell's opening to
Speaker 5: the CBS Evening News. See if you feel like she's
Speaker 5: leaning one way or the other.
Speaker 6: Selection day is just over two weeks away, and the
Speaker 6: fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground states
Speaker 6: is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican voters
Speaker 6: by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the crucial
Speaker 6: blue wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney was
Speaker 6: a powerful Republican congressman, and today she called Harris a
Speaker 6: responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he was
Speaker 6: back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about FEMA
Speaker 6: and immigrants, as after he spent the weekends slinging a
Speaker 6: crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room talk
Speaker 6: about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging a
Speaker 6: campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania McDonald's.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I was expecting it to be
Speaker 5: too much, but that is crazy. That is crazy, staging
Speaker 5: a photo op and a closed McDonald's, putting all of
Speaker 5: the editorial opinion in your little blurb about what was
Speaker 5: a very successful, by the way, very typical sort of campaign.
Speaker 5: Stop a question for you that had been a press
Speaker 5: release from the DNC. Howd it have differed? It wouldn't
Speaker 5: at all. So Kamala Harris's campaigning with Republicans who call
Speaker 5: her a great leader, evil Trump is going around lying
Speaker 5: and doing phony photo ops.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Arnold Palmers crank how there?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting, Jack's I watched NBC News that
Speaker 5: same night and it was virtually word for word the
Speaker 5: same in tone and structure, So again to the point
Speaker 5: that they're under tremendous pressure to not do anything that
Speaker 5: would help Trump in any way.
Speaker 1: So does Liz Cheney's lost her mind?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Way, I want to talk about that topic too, But
Speaker 5: so does Nora o'donald know what she just did? I mean,
Speaker 5: are they I've been wondering this for a long time,
Speaker 5: as you know, like the debate when she was on
Speaker 5: there with uh, what's her name? The other one from
Speaker 5: facin Nation, the two CBS people, It's like, do they
Speaker 5: know what they're doing? Are they so so in the
Speaker 5: bubble of people that agree with them, doesn't even feel
Speaker 5: like they're being biased?
Speaker 1: That's what I think it's the I think it's the
Speaker 1: second one. Yeah, I think it is too.
Speaker 5: I think Norah O'Donnell feels like, no, I'm doing fair
Speaker 5: coverage of what happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Trump's evil and Kamala is great. So what are you
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're either completely committed to that and yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't decide.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going back and forth, because I was gonna
Speaker 1: say they're both the both she and Kristen.
Speaker 4: Welker are bright enough to understand how they're coming off.
Speaker 4: But then I started thinking, well, maybe they don't care
Speaker 4: that they're coming off that way because everybody they value,
Speaker 4: everybody whose opinion they value in their lives, agrees with
Speaker 4: that point of view. So I don't know how deliberate
Speaker 4: and how unconscious it is, honestly, but it is absolutely egregious.
Speaker 5: That was I would have had to sit down for
Speaker 5: a half an hour and really put some work into
Speaker 5: it to do as good a job of campaigning for
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris as that opening forty five seconds was on
Speaker 5: the CBS Evening News. Let's make her sound bipartisan, have
Speaker 5: a good quote from a Republican about what a great
Speaker 5: leader she will be, and then point out and exaggerate
Speaker 5: any awful thing that Trump did taking a completely normal
Speaker 5: photo op and making it seem negative somehow.
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, Well, there we have it there. It is so.
Speaker 5: And I also always think, I think you know, half
Speaker 5: the country is or more is going to vote for Trump.
Speaker 5: They hate when you do that, they hate it a lot.
Speaker 5: It makes them more likely to vote for Trump. Not
Speaker 5: less you think you're convincing people. You are convincing them
Speaker 5: to vote for Trump because it's so clear that the
Speaker 5: mainstream media is in the bag for Kamala Well and
Speaker 5: this guy.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to get post Trump and get back
Speaker 4: to just defending conservative values and policies. I think anything
Speaker 4: that beclowns the mainstream media and points out their egregious
Speaker 4: biases is probably a good thing. They've They've rendered themselves ridiculous, yead,
Speaker 4: I'd say so.
Speaker 5: So anyway, Kamala Harris did an interview yesterday. She didn't
Speaker 5: do hardly any campaign stuff because she had a couple
Speaker 5: of interviews. It's interesting if she ever did no appearances
Speaker 5: of any sort. When she has an interview, she does
Speaker 5: not campaign even two weeks out. Is it that taxing
Speaker 5: or she has to be that focused to try to
Speaker 5: get through an interview without a complete mess up.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: But anyway, she sat down with NBC and here's a
Speaker 5: little bit of that.
Speaker 9: It's a judgment question. That's why I ask, can the
Speaker 9: American people trust you in these moments? Even when it's
Speaker 9: maybe uncomfortable. It sounds like what you're saying is you
Speaker 9: feel like you never saw anything like that from President Bilin.
Speaker 5: I got to set that up or nobody will have
Speaker 5: any idea what they're talking about because we left out
Speaker 5: what they're set up is there? So is it Hayley Jackson, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: she was asking Kamala Harris about Biden's mental state and
Speaker 5: did you ever see it? And you've stood up for
Speaker 5: his mental state even though seventy five percent of Americans
Speaker 5: believe he shouldn't be president, and he embarrassed himself in
Speaker 5: the debate, So what gives?
Speaker 1: How can people trust you? It's a judgment question.
Speaker 9: That's why I ask, can the American people trust you
Speaker 9: in these moments? Even when it's maybe uncomfortable. It sounds
Speaker 9: like what you're saying is you feel like you never
Speaker 9: saw anything like that from President Biden.
Speaker 7: I have worked with Joe Biden, whether hours and hours
Speaker 7: and hours over these four years, whether it be in
Speaker 7: the situation room or the Oval office. Joe Biden is
Speaker 7: the one who was able to bring NATO together during
Speaker 7: a crisis where for the first time in seventy years,
Speaker 7: Europe saw and has seen war. Joe Biden has done
Speaker 7: the work that has been about being a leader on
Speaker 7: what we have done to fix so much of what
Speaker 7: has been broken in terms of the economy because of
Speaker 7: Donald Trump's mismanagement. I speak with not only sincerity, but
Speaker 7: with a real first hand account of watching him do
Speaker 7: this work.
Speaker 1: I have no reluctance to saying that. Now, that's sound
Speaker 1: like a dodge at all. Isn't that amazing? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 5: And the follow up should be, well the stuff I said.
Speaker 5: Seventy five percent of Americans think he shouldn't be president again,
Speaker 5: which is why he stepped down. We all saw him
Speaker 5: at the debate. George Clooney wrote an op ed for
Speaker 5: The New York Times saying, the guy at the debate
Speaker 5: is who he saw at a fundraiser.
Speaker 1: You're really saying you never saw that? Yeah, this is.
Speaker 4: Why I wasn't that enthused about Brett Baarr asking the
Speaker 4: question in that interview.
Speaker 1: She would just repeat what she just said.
Speaker 5: Again. I think they think they're helping themselves. It's doing
Speaker 5: more harm than good. Well, so, what would be a
Speaker 5: good answer. Is there a good answer? Am I being
Speaker 5: Are we being fair to her? Maybe there's not a
Speaker 5: good answer.
Speaker 1: No, there's not.
Speaker 4: No, the Dodge is the only fair answer. Because he
Speaker 4: was sen Island, she knew it. I will credit Hallie
Speaker 4: Jackson with a reasonable, you know, probing question there on
Speaker 4: NBC News.
Speaker 1: I'm pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's that's one of the great scandals of
Speaker 5: I think it'll be written about years from now. It
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like a scandal now, but she and others
Speaker 5: covered up for a guy who should not be president.
Speaker 5: He shouldn't be president right this moment. Right he's having
Speaker 5: conversations with Lloyd Austin. I'm sure about this whole North
Speaker 5: Korea troops in Russia thing. Is he able to understand
Speaker 5: what the hell's going on? Is he awake? Or is
Speaker 5: the Secretary of State and the Second Deep Are they
Speaker 5: making decisions without input from the president because he's not
Speaker 5: having a good day that.
Speaker 1: This shouldn't be known.
Speaker 5: I need more evidence to answer your question. Can we
Speaker 5: listen to clip forty two?
Speaker 1: Please? This is Biden yesterday in conquered New Hampshire. This
Speaker 1: the guy also wants to place.
Speaker 10: Every civil servant, every single one thinks he has a
Speaker 10: writer of the Streme Court ruling on immunity to be
Speaker 10: able to if need be, if there's a case to
Speaker 10: actually eliminate, physically eliminated, shoot kill someone who is he
Speaker 10: needs to be a threat to him. I mean, so,
Speaker 10: I know this sounds bizarre. It sounds like I said
Speaker 10: this five years ago. You'd locked me up. We gotta
Speaker 10: lock him out, political vocuum.
Speaker 1: Out, lock him out. That's what we have to do.
Speaker 1: Lock him out. Wow politically wow wow. Boy.
Speaker 5: Well he'll be gone in January. That's quite a ways away.
Speaker 5: January twenty.
Speaker 4: That's an awful long time given the geopolitical tensions.
Speaker 1: Rember December January.
Speaker 5: That's three months from a couple of weeks ago. Three
Speaker 5: months is a long time to be president when you
Speaker 5: have your brain works like that.
Speaker 10: Mess for them in work, unless you want to get better.
Speaker 5: Cuban missile crisis was what twelve days? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: We got more on the way, Strong and Getty, this
Speaker 1: is going viral.
Speaker 5: Pizza Hut is offering a new experience to diners in
Speaker 5: New York.
Speaker 1: Take a look at this well restaurant.
Speaker 11: Chain is opening up a one person reservation only restaurant.
Speaker 11: Beginning today in Queens, diners are rather the diner at
Speaker 11: the restaurant. We'll get fifteen minutes to enjoy their very
Speaker 11: own six inch personal tan pizza.
Speaker 5: New Yorkers were like to us, that's a four bedroom apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think the visual matters on that. It's a little
Speaker 5: shed that's made to look like at pizza hut, but
Speaker 5: it only has for one person that's sitting there and
Speaker 5: eat a little.
Speaker 1: Pizza like that being left alone sign. Yeah, I'm busy eating.
Speaker 4: We barely have any time look at that anyway. A
Speaker 4: couple of other consumer related stories that I found were interesting.
Speaker 1: Starbucks, Jack, you're a big Starbucks guy. I only really hit.
Speaker 4: Starbucks in an airport once in a while. I kind
Speaker 4: of a coffee at home type. But they've been taking
Speaker 4: on water. Can you say that about a nobody that
Speaker 4: sells liquids? Probably not, but they've been struggling mightily of late.
Speaker 4: They've got a new CEO, Brian Nichol, who's taken over
Speaker 4: from the old guy who drove it into the ground,
Speaker 4: and he's credited with saving Chipotle and young brands and
Speaker 4: that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: So the stocks way up. But I'm just curious what
Speaker 1: you think. And fellow Starbucks fans think his new message
Speaker 1: slogan is back to Starbucks.
Speaker 5: I like that, And they're going to get away from
Speaker 5: the hyper efficient, highly digital, robotic mixed drinks and get
Speaker 5: more into the coffee shop.
Speaker 1: Feel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the idea of that. As a guy
Speaker 5: who goes in there and gets coffee. They have nine
Speaker 5: thousand different kinds of drinks you can get that aren't coffee.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing that's going to be less hyper
Speaker 4: efficient though, it's going to be slower and more relaxed.
Speaker 5: Well, I know they're going to pare down the menu
Speaker 5: because there are something like eight thousand different sorts of
Speaker 5: things you can order, and they're going to try to
Speaker 5: pair that way way, way way back, which would help
Speaker 5: a big Other part of it, too, is the way
Speaker 5: they handle their bathroom situation because of that that happened
Speaker 5: in Philadelphia with the people they didn't allow in the
Speaker 5: bathroom and its college kids and they have blah blah blah. Anyway,
Speaker 5: so every bathroom situation every Starbucks in America is horrible,
Speaker 5: and that that's a problem. It used to be a
Speaker 5: very nice clean place you could go to and know
Speaker 5: you could go in there, like when my kids were younger.
Speaker 5: That's the one you could count on to go find
Speaker 5: a nice, clean bathroom.
Speaker 1: And then that all went away.
Speaker 4: One report I saw a reference the nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 4: joke in the Onion that I still remember, oddly enough,
Speaker 4: the satirical headline new Starbucks opens in restroom of existing Starbucks.
Speaker 4: Starbucks had twenty five hundred stores at the time. Today
Speaker 4: it has tripled that many in China alone. Wow, and
Speaker 4: about forty thousand worldwide.
Speaker 5: I didn't know Starbucks was a big thing in China.
Speaker 5: You know what I didn't get to is chaos packaging.
Speaker 5: It's the new trend in consumer goods. Chaos packaging, unexpected
Speaker 5: packaging like ice cream, tubs of tampons that's for Tim
Speaker 5: Watz and sunscreen from a whipped cream can.
Speaker 1: That's the new trend.
Speaker 5: To look for it on shelves near you all explain
Speaker 5: later on, speaking of tampon, Tim, he dropped some bad
Speaker 5: language himself yesterday, among other things on the way say knucklehead,
Speaker 5: armstrong and geddy.
Speaker 1: Forever.
Speaker 12: He was saying she never worked at McDonald's never, so
Speaker 12: now he took himself to McDonald's.
Speaker 5: That was McDonald's.
Speaker 1: That was clothes, and he.
Speaker 5: Wasn't wearing a hairnet, which really bothered me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no net, really you I don't want some French fried.
Speaker 1: She actually worked in a McDonald's.
Speaker 12: She didn't go and pander and disrespect McDonald's workers by
Speaker 12: standing there in your red tie and take a.
Speaker 5: Picture who worked briefly as a fry cooker without a hairnet,
Speaker 5: I might add. I listened to some punditry around this,
Speaker 5: a lot of punditry around this, from super smart people
Speaker 5: on both sides, almost all of them agreeing that that
Speaker 5: was a brilliant atop pr thing that Trump did. But
Speaker 5: it wouldn't have been a very big deal really, because
Speaker 5: that sort of thing happens all the time, if the
Speaker 5: Democrats hadn't like, jumped on it and made it into
Speaker 5: such a big deal and criticized it so much and
Speaker 5: given it so much attention. And I heard it you
Speaker 5: used as the example of taking the bait. Remember how
Speaker 5: ridiculous it was that Kamala Harris so easily baited Trump
Speaker 5: into talking about his rallies instead of immigration and the economy.
Speaker 5: People leave your rallies Oh wait a second, No, they don't.
Speaker 5: They did the same thing with the McDonald's up. He
Speaker 5: shows up McDonald's and then the left goes nuts and
Speaker 5: they can't stop talking about it, and they're trying to
Speaker 5: describe why it was awful. Just allows more coverage of
Speaker 5: Trump there in his tie servant fries and uh and
Speaker 5: that's that works for some reason for Trump in a
Speaker 5: way that other politicians would look ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's partly that, you know, he's a big, famous,
Speaker 4: billionaire celebrity, and so it's just amusing to see him
Speaker 4: doing that, and he's good at it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the so called backlash to it had a
Speaker 5: very frantic why am mad? Bro feel to it?
Speaker 1: Right? Just what are you so mad about? Aes? We
Speaker 1: know it was a staged event. What do you think
Speaker 1: he actually like got a job there? What are you
Speaker 1: even trying to say? Kind of funny, Yeah, but uh
Speaker 1: so I came across this.
Speaker 5: They had to close down the Yelp reviews of that
Speaker 5: McDonald's because started trolling them so much.
Speaker 4: Help reviews of McDonald's. Yeah, two stars. It tastes like
Speaker 4: every other McDonald's.
Speaker 5: There's what the hell, Well, there's people trolling the fact.
Speaker 5: It's like, for instance, this one that I was funny.
Speaker 5: Tried the McDonald's in Feasterville today. Customer service was a joke.
Speaker 5: A senile old man, old man got bronzer on my fries.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's funny. Ceni, old man got.
Speaker 5: Bronzer on my fries, didn't wear gloves, repeated himself several times,
Speaker 5: something about Ronald McDonald and the showers at the golf club.
Speaker 1: I don't no zero stars. You know that's funny.
Speaker 5: Ronald McDonald would come out of the come out of
Speaker 5: the locker room, and all the other clowns would be like, whoa,
Speaker 5: there's a clown.
Speaker 1: He was a real clay. He was all clown.
Speaker 4: Hey, you got a couple, not one, but a couple
Speaker 4: of emails. First of all, I saw a story something
Speaker 4: to the effect of McDonald's workers have been sworn to secrecy,
Speaker 4: or something about the Kamala Harris working there and not
Speaker 4: working there years and years and years ago. But a
Speaker 4: couple of people wrote, almost back to back, this is dell.
Speaker 4: If Harris worked at McDonald's in the seventies or thereabouts,
Speaker 4: it would be recorded under Social Security account. I worked
Speaker 4: at a garden shop in the early sixties, early sixties,
Speaker 4: and it's right there how much I made and how
Speaker 4: much was withheld for Social Security.
Speaker 1: And then Gabe said, Jent, social Security keeps track of
Speaker 1: your work history.
Speaker 5: They have my two weeks at McDonald's from nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 5: I was the most incredible fry guy, by the way,
Speaker 5: amazing with my human hands.
Speaker 1: By Gabe.
Speaker 5: I think I think she's working at McDonald's, she claims
Speaker 5: in eighty two, because she and I and you are
Speaker 5: the same age.
Speaker 1: And but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't I suppose if she made that up, that's
Speaker 5: an interesting story. How don't they think the fact that
Speaker 5: she did work at McDonald's that interesting? If she claims
Speaker 5: she didn't, she didn't, that would be an interesting thing
Speaker 5: to do, right.
Speaker 4: And it's all in service to that whole I grew
Speaker 4: up in a hard scrabble working class neighborhood and family,
Speaker 4: which is clearly not true. But the fact that this
Speaker 4: much time and energy is being spent scrutinizing that that
Speaker 4: claims a little silly anyway, in my opinion. I mean,
Speaker 4: there are plenty of world leaders and thinkers who grew
Speaker 4: up in a fair amount of wealth and were brilliant
Speaker 4: and effective. Likewise, Abe Lincoln could not have been more poor.
Speaker 4: They were starving, and he's one of the great presidents ever.
Speaker 5: No, a lot of our founding fathers were quite wealthy
Speaker 5: and come from wealthy family's Fdr Churchill, you get and
Speaker 5: you all kinds of examples. Here's Tim Walls yes day
Speaker 5: on the campaign trail. We could discuss this a little bit.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna talk about his running mate.
Speaker 1: His running mate, Elon Musk.
Speaker 12: Seriously, Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a
Speaker 12: dip on these stones.
Speaker 2: You know it.
Speaker 1: Wow. Listen to that crowd, though, think about it.
Speaker 12: Think about that that guy is literally the richest man
Speaker 12: in the world, spending millions of dollars to help Donald
Speaker 12: Trump by an election.
Speaker 5: Man, Tim Walls is way better at that sort of
Speaker 5: thing than he is sitting for an interview. Tell you
Speaker 5: that he just seems so lost, deer in the headlights
Speaker 5: and uncomfortable in interviews in front of a big crowd
Speaker 5: doing the whole you know, populism, lefty thing.
Speaker 1: He's really good at that. But were there any.
Speaker 4: Old tampon, Tim who puts tampons in boys rooms? Old coach,
Speaker 4: well assistant coach Tim Mocking. A guy's the richest guy
Speaker 4: on earth because he's built so many incredibly innovative companies.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the leftis populism thing.
Speaker 5: But did any were there any headlines about vulgarity the
Speaker 5: Harris campaign lowering themselves to vulgarity to try to describe
Speaker 5: their opponents like they did, O'Donnell miss that one like
Speaker 5: they did with Trump all weekend long? Or does does
Speaker 5: the left get to call somebody a dip s but
Speaker 5: the right can?
Speaker 13: I mean, come on, yes, Katie, I just found it
Speaker 13: striking that he was saying that considering that his son's
Speaker 13: on the spectrum and we all know that Elon Musk
Speaker 13: is on the spectrum, So to be calling him a
Speaker 13: dip s for jumping around on the stage like he did,
Speaker 13: that's kind of a double standard too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an a hole.
Speaker 5: Tim Wawlsh is not a nice person and I'm a
Speaker 5: knucklehead at times. So just on vote a lion, A
Speaker 5: hole is what you are. Just on voting in general.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you agree with this or not.
Speaker 5: This is my take on the whole voting thing, because I,
Speaker 5: for instance, You've got Liz Cheney out there campaigning hard
Speaker 5: for Kamala Harris, talking about what a great leader she's
Speaker 5: going to be and how she'll get abortion back to
Speaker 5: where it needs to be.
Speaker 1: Liz Cheney is one of the most hardcore pro.
Speaker 5: Life Republican people we've had in recent decades. She co
Speaker 5: authored legislation that would have banned abortion nationwide.
Speaker 1: From the moment of conception.
Speaker 5: And now she's on stage with Kamala Harris pushing Kamla
Speaker 5: because she because she doesn't like Trump. So I get
Speaker 5: not liking Trump, right, I don't get puffing up Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: So I'm confused by that whole thing. We'll eat in.
Speaker 5: Directions and he's saying specifically about abortion or just bizarre
Speaker 5: given her sponsorship of that bill that whether you want
Speaker 5: to call it conception or fertilization, it was like, from
Speaker 5: the moment sperm meets egg, that is a human being.
Speaker 1: Now she's saying that well with Roe v.
Speaker 4: Wade, the Dobbs decision that some of the things being
Speaker 4: done in the States, I mean, these six week deadlines
Speaker 4: for having an abortion, it's just it's gone too far.
Speaker 1: So I'm in favor of Kamala her the way.
Speaker 5: She despises Trump I think has caused her to lose
Speaker 5: her freaking mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could endorse Kamla.
Speaker 4: You could do the John Kelly you think he's a
Speaker 4: dictator thing. You could make all manner of speeches and
Speaker 4: actions and not campaign with her making just inexplicable claims
Speaker 4: about abortion specifically. I mean, it's it's mystifying what's going
Speaker 4: on with Liz Chaney.
Speaker 5: I have a number of conservative or libertarian type friends
Speaker 5: who can't vote for Donald Trump, But you don't need
Speaker 5: to go around inflating Kamala Harris over it or vice versa.
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 5: My point of view is one of those two people
Speaker 5: are gonna win, and so which one would you prefer?
Speaker 5: Is not a horrible position, I don't I don't quite
Speaker 5: get the you hold your vote so precious that even
Speaker 5: behind closed doors in a state that wouldn't matter, you
Speaker 5: can't pull the lever for one person because like God's watching,
Speaker 5: or your soul is hurt or something.
Speaker 1: I don't quite get.
Speaker 5: That one of those two people are going to be
Speaker 5: in charge of the country, which would you rather have?
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Speaker 4: Both choices are terrible, and it doesn't matter what your
Speaker 4: vote is, why would you bother voting?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't if.
Speaker 5: That's fine, but I don't understand the lack of willingness
Speaker 5: of people just to say who would you rather have
Speaker 5: be president? I feel like it's being a pacifist. It's
Speaker 5: taking the easy way out. Sorry, I'm a pacifist. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's fine, but war exists and you have to have
Speaker 5: an opinion or you've just decided not to participate.
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have be president? Kamala Harris, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not seeing you wrong. It's just a question of how
Speaker 4: you look at life. I guess in morality.
Speaker 5: If you think they're both monsters, don't vote for either
Speaker 5: one of them, vote for a third party, or don't
Speaker 5: vote for anybody.
Speaker 4: Vote for Senator, vote for Congress. I think that's a
Speaker 4: perfectly defensible position. It's difficult to come up with a
Speaker 4: good metaphor that compares, you know, like your your war one.
Speaker 5: That's that Pacifism. It's a good one because it's going
Speaker 5: to happen whether you participate or not. Would you like
Speaker 5: to have a role in it with one of them?
Speaker 1: A role in.
Speaker 5: One or the other unless you're in a swing state.
Speaker 5: It's a purely symbolic role. True, true, true, But I
Speaker 5: just I just feel like it's an easy out. It's
Speaker 5: like when I'm in a crowd of people, I'm a pacifist. Okay,
Speaker 5: so you don't have to engage in the real conversation
Speaker 5: of what's going to happen here, Fine, then go stand
Speaker 5: in the corner. But in the real world, these things
Speaker 5: are happening, pick one or the other. I don't understand it.
Speaker 5: Why I don't chew anything in one of the most
Speaker 5: important things that goes on in the country in a
Speaker 5: purely symbolic way.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all.
Speaker 4: You can have a strong and learned opinion on every
Speaker 4: single issue that the country faces and not cast a
Speaker 4: vote for president.
Speaker 5: I guess as an individual at your home, sure, but
Speaker 5: as any sort of you have any sort of public role.
Speaker 5: I guess I'm thinking about Liz Cheney and lots of
Speaker 5: different people. You have any sort of public role. One
Speaker 5: of two people are gonna win, So true, but what
Speaker 5: what I don't want? I don't get it the and
Speaker 5: the third party choice or whatever. I guess you can
Speaker 5: kind of make the argumentory about you're trying to help
Speaker 5: build another party, which could happen over time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I voted for libertarians for a long time because I
Speaker 4: wanted to pull the Republican Party closer to UH liberty
Speaker 4: in general, small l libertarianism. The Libertarian Party is off
Speaker 4: the crackpot, but small libertarianism.
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Speaker 5: Eminem's all in for Kamala Harris. Now I feel like
Speaker 5: he's crossed that line in dying dyeing your hair and
Speaker 5: your beard to where now it looks ridiculous. You can
Speaker 5: do it for a while, but now he's at the
Speaker 5: age where it just as silly.
Speaker 4: So your your criticism is not extending to his indorsement
Speaker 4: of a progressive moron, indeed his rejection of the inevitable
Speaker 4: signs of aging.
Speaker 5: I really do not look to musicians, rappers of any
Speaker 5: kind to tell me what's the best direction to go
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 1: It's oboists.
Speaker 5: An oboist I can trust because they're not showy, poet earnest,
Speaker 5: they work hard. I'm into the poll. What do the
Speaker 5: poets think? That's what I always say. First my first question?
Speaker 5: We got more in the way, I stay with us?
Speaker 1: Just what going?
Speaker 5: I was gonna make another musical note. The thing about
Speaker 5: the Eagles is they never overplayed the silences, the space
Speaker 5: between the notes.
Speaker 1: That's the key.
Speaker 5: Justin Bieber suing his managers for squandering three hundred million
Speaker 5: dollar fortune, that'll be quite the story if it's true.
Speaker 4: Oh that would hurt woo oh man. That's the tale
Speaker 4: as old as time management ripping off a creative artist.
Speaker 1: No, especially if you're like a fourteen year old.
Speaker 4: H If you heard the preceding discussion about voting and
Speaker 4: not voting, that sort of thing and just everything we've
Speaker 4: been talking about.
Speaker 1: You'll enjoy this note from Ryan in Houston.
Speaker 4: Guys, in a couple of weeks it will be president
Speaker 4: elect Pumpkins Spice Hitler or Kamala?
Speaker 1: Is this my butt or a hole in the ground.
Speaker 5: Pumpkin spice Hitler. That is clever. You should send that
Speaker 5: to Fallon. That's good. That's really clever Ryan. If you
Speaker 5: look at the candidates that way, you should just to
Speaker 5: expect the one you don't like to win and then
Speaker 5: find out.
Speaker 4: Who's running for your city council because that'll be a
Speaker 4: better use of your time instead of hoping your god
Speaker 4: emperor wins and smites your enemies.
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Speaker 1: to know you. Oh boy. So I mentioned chaos packaging. Earlier.
Speaker 1: Companies are selling sunscreen in whipped cream cans, water and
Speaker 1: Tall Boys, better known for beer and dumponds in ice
Speaker 1: cream tubs. As surprise surprising, packaging becomes a sharper tool
Speaker 1: for marketers.
Speaker 5: I have noticed the beverages in different kinds of cans.
Speaker 5: Thing interesting and marketing isn't yes, and for some reason
Speaker 5: it's appealing.
Speaker 4: Marketing and venture capital consultant You've Never heard of Them
Speaker 4: calls the trend chaos packaging. Other examples include Ilva Serrano's
Speaker 4: Engine Gin, which comes in motor oil containers, and Machino's
Speaker 4: Fresh Cooture perfume, which is packaged in window cleaner like
Speaker 4: spray bottles.
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about this, but like some water, I
Speaker 5: bought a bottle of water at the store and it
Speaker 5: came in a can, like a kind of like a
Speaker 5: beer can or a popcan or something. For some reason,
Speaker 5: I chose that because I just thought it was kind
Speaker 5: of cool or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's it.
Speaker 4: This marketing guy explains pages that cause some kind of
Speaker 4: cognitive dissonance are more likely to capture the attention of
Speaker 4: shoppers than traditional boxes, bottles.
Speaker 1: And cans interesting, so that appeals to brands.
Speaker 4: Particularly as advertising becomes more expensive, suppliers battle for shelf
Speaker 4: space and direct a consumer model popularized by startups in
Speaker 4: the twenty tens begins to sag under the weight of
Speaker 4: logistics costs and consumers desires for one stop shopping.
Speaker 1: I've got this new tomato soup that comes in a
Speaker 1: shoe box.
Speaker 5: Yes, Katie, Wow, there's some logistical challenges to that idea.
Speaker 8: But there's a really cool brand called Liquid Death and
Speaker 8: they sell water, but they sell it in a tall
Speaker 8: can that looks like a beer at like concerts and stuff,
Speaker 8: so if you're not drinking, you don't feel the pressure
Speaker 8: of you know.
Speaker 4: That's actually one of the very brands that they highlight
Speaker 4: in this article. Well done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just why am I? I'm just going
Speaker 1: to say it.
Speaker 4: Flow, which is the company that sells ladies' devices in
Speaker 4: the ice cream thing, said it's packaging nods to the
Speaker 4: sugar and fat cre that often descend upon women during
Speaker 4: their periods, but the company especially wanted to make sure
Speaker 4: it's products caught shopper's eyes on shelves packed with long
Speaker 4: established brands.
Speaker 1: I think it's smart, like it's silly.
Speaker 5: I like my brown gravy to come in a salt shaker.
Speaker 5: That's just the way I am.
Speaker 4: The venture backed olive oil startup Gratza became a millennial favorite,
Speaker 4: primarily thanks to choosing squeezable condiment like bottles instead of
Speaker 4: the traditional glass for all of them.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, huh. I'll be darn I fell
Speaker 5: for it subliminally or subconsciously or something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about the tampoons
Speaker 8: and the ice cream.
Speaker 1: Man, mind your own damn business.
Speaker 4: Tampoons like that, We'll we'll be stealing that one for
Speaker 4: years and years.
Speaker 1: Yeah's funny, whatever it takes to get attention. I guess
Speaker 1: chaos packaging Joe. That's right.
Speaker 4: They give the example of this guy who's a big
Speaker 4: guy in the field. He founded Eos in twenty eight,
Speaker 4: a skincare company that packaged lip ball in spheres rather
Speaker 4: than sticks.
Speaker 1: Right right, I remember that craze started. Yeah huh. I'll
Speaker 1: be darned.
Speaker 5: We're so easily manipulated and we don't even notice it.
Speaker 1: Uh boy.
Speaker 5: The October surprise maybe has dropped about hit uh Trump.
Speaker 1: I almost said it row my cowbo