1
00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

2
00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,920
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty arm Strong and

3
00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,600
Speaker 1: Jettie and he.

4
00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:27,000
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Eddy. I can't believe it. It is the

5
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,920
Speaker 2: most puzzling, wonderful, rewarding thing I think we've seen in

6
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 2: baseball in many, many years.

7
00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,080
Speaker 1: He is the talk of.

8
00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,960
Speaker 2: The baseball world in English and Spanish and any other

9
00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,840
Speaker 2: language that's close at hand.

10
00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:48,279
Speaker 3: Fernando Valenzuela, Fernando Valenzuela, the Dodgers, and the Dodgers are

11
00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,640
Speaker 3: back in the World Series, so there'll be a lot

12
00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680
Speaker 3: of nostalgia for that amazing picture from back in the day.

13
00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,720
Speaker 1: Who died at the age of sixty three? What do

14
00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,200
Speaker 1: you die of? That's not very old.

15
00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,680
Speaker 4: I don't actually know. I hadn't dug into it AnyWho.

16
00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,560
Speaker 4: I was not part of his medical team.

17
00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,360
Speaker 5: He was unhittable for like a couple of seasons there,

18
00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,520
Speaker 5: just absolutely unhittable, right, And he was kind of a pudgy,

19
00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,640
Speaker 5: unassuming looking, uh Mexican guy.

20
00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,679
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and just filthy stuff though, as we

21
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,080
Speaker 1: say in the baseball world.

22
00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and good times and really credited with I didn't

23
00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,200
Speaker 5: realize this, but that it really opened up the whole

24
00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,160
Speaker 5: Spanish player thing and players from other countries coming over.

25
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,679
Speaker 5: It really, you know, brought us to the baseball we

26
00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,679
Speaker 5: got today where a lot of the best players don't

27
00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,200
Speaker 5: speak English and are for some from some other country.

28
00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I don't love exactly, but you know, it

29
00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,520
Speaker 4: is what it is.

30
00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,520
Speaker 1: It's a global sport.

31
00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,679
Speaker 5: Fernando, by the way, I heard this on NPR today,

32
00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,680
Speaker 5: could speak English. He just didn't want to, so he

33
00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,840
Speaker 5: was did did everything through an interpreter, right, he did

34
00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,800
Speaker 5: everything to an interpreter.

35
00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,080
Speaker 1: He just didn't want to talk to people.

36
00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,440
Speaker 5: I don't blame him. I don't blame the media. He

37
00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,120
Speaker 5: didn't want to talk to the media, right. AnyWho, Yeah,

38
00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:01,960
Speaker 5: I get that.

39
00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,320
Speaker 1: Fernando.

40
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000
Speaker 4: What were you thinking as you face Jones in the

41
00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,680
Speaker 4: fourth inning?

42
00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,720
Speaker 1: No, come friend?

43
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,920
Speaker 5: What do you think I was thinking? I was thinking,

44
00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 5: I want to get the frigging guy out.

45
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,919
Speaker 1: What a stupid question.

46
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,239
Speaker 5: Are you disappointed in the way the season ended? Yeah,

47
00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,680
Speaker 5: we lost, of course, I am what them thrilled. I

48
00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,840
Speaker 5: was hoping we'd have a crappy season. Shut up, No,

49
00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:32,680
Speaker 5: come friendly, that's easier. Uh, that's funny. So we're thirteen

50
00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,040
Speaker 5: days out and things are getting super ugly. I guess

51
00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,400
Speaker 5: behind the scenes. According to a couple of different journalists,

52
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,320
Speaker 5: I read the pressure. I was just reading this, the

53
00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,679
Speaker 5: pressure on news outlets to not do anything that could

54
00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:54,320
Speaker 5: possibly help Trump is a fever pitch wow, which you know,

55
00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,720
Speaker 5: I do not doubt that for a second. What sort

56
00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,720
Speaker 5: of pressure can you describe the sort of pressure you

57
00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,240
Speaker 5: think their feeling, because I'm picturing everything from in the

58
00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,160
Speaker 5: pickup line for their kids that they're very expensive private schools,

59
00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,200
Speaker 5: to their social circles, you know, I'm getting in their newsrooms.

60
00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,799
Speaker 5: I'm guessing that a lot of it is professional and

61
00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 5: personal that what you just described there. It's just all

62
00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,760
Speaker 5: your friends agree with your politics and will give you

63
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,040
Speaker 5: so much crap if you do anything that's within one

64
00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,400
Speaker 5: hundred miles of balanced coverage of the election.

65
00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,560
Speaker 1: Right right.

66
00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,400
Speaker 4: And you have to remember, as our fellow cynics, I

67
00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,600
Speaker 4: think a lot of you are, that a lot of

68
00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,000
Speaker 4: these people buy the most overheated of their own rhetoric.

69
00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960
Speaker 4: And so if I were to do a story critical

70
00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 4: of Kamala, I would be ushering in the new Hitler,

71
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,400
Speaker 4: Who's going to end our democracy? You know, getting him

72
00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200
Speaker 4: a foot closer to the White House and that's unforgivable

73
00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,640
Speaker 4: from their fevered point of view.

74
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,320
Speaker 5: We got such a good example for you here. So

75
00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,000
Speaker 5: I mentioned yesterday, I came in, I said, good gud.

76
00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,760
Speaker 5: I watched the ABC Evening News last night, and it

77
00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,200
Speaker 5: is as if the newscast because everybody's doing the first

78
00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720
Speaker 5: segment pretty much on the election. Although last night they

79
00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,760
Speaker 5: did a first segment on McDonald's quarter pounders, which is

80
00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,440
Speaker 5: one of my favorite topics making people sick across the country,

81
00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,320
Speaker 5: including killing a person apparently.

82
00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,400
Speaker 1: Not in the usual way, just the coli apparently.

83
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, not in a slow you get obese and lethargic way,

84
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,160
Speaker 5: but it's got.

85
00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,920
Speaker 1: A coasease, etc. Yeah.

86
00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,520
Speaker 5: Anyway, so I was watching the ABC Evening News and

87
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,160
Speaker 5: I was like, are you kidding me? This is ridiculous.

88
00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,760
Speaker 5: I mean, you got to at least pretend. Well, here's

89
00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,800
Speaker 5: an example. This is from Monday night, because it was

90
00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,240
Speaker 5: a big news weekend with all kinds of different stuff

91
00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,479
Speaker 5: happened to the both campaigns. Here's Nora O'Donnell's opening to

92
00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,680
Speaker 5: the CBS Evening News. See if you feel like she's

93
00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,880
Speaker 5: leaning one way or the other.

94
00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,719
Speaker 6: Selection day is just over two weeks away, and the

95
00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,760
Speaker 6: fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground states

96
00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,839
Speaker 6: is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican voters

97
00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,440
Speaker 6: by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the crucial

98
00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,320
Speaker 6: blue wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney was

99
00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760
Speaker 6: a powerful Republican congressman, and today she called Harris a

100
00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,440
Speaker 6: responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he was

101
00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,240
Speaker 6: back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about FEMA

102
00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,400
Speaker 6: and immigrants, as after he spent the weekends slinging a

103
00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,280
Speaker 6: crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room talk

104
00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,560
Speaker 6: about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging a

105
00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,039
Speaker 6: campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania McDonald's.

106
00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I was expecting it to be

107
00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,320
Speaker 5: too much, but that is crazy. That is crazy, staging

108
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,200
Speaker 5: a photo op and a closed McDonald's, putting all of

109
00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,479
Speaker 5: the editorial opinion in your little blurb about what was

110
00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,039
Speaker 5: a very successful, by the way, very typical sort of campaign.

111
00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,200
Speaker 5: Stop a question for you that had been a press

112
00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,800
Speaker 5: release from the DNC. Howd it have differed? It wouldn't

113
00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,160
Speaker 5: at all. So Kamala Harris's campaigning with Republicans who call

114
00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,600
Speaker 5: her a great leader, evil Trump is going around lying

115
00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,600
Speaker 5: and doing phony photo ops.

116
00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Arnold Palmers crank how there?

117
00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:14,920
Speaker 7: Right?

118
00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,400
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting, Jack's I watched NBC News that

119
00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,760
Speaker 5: same night and it was virtually word for word the

120
00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 5: same in tone and structure, So again to the point

121
00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,120
Speaker 5: that they're under tremendous pressure to not do anything that

122
00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,960
Speaker 5: would help Trump in any way.

123
00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,520
Speaker 1: So does Liz Cheney's lost her mind?

124
00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:34,840
Speaker 8: Yeah?

125
00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,039
Speaker 5: Way, I want to talk about that topic too, But

126
00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,080
Speaker 5: so does Nora o'donald know what she just did? I mean,

127
00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,040
Speaker 5: are they I've been wondering this for a long time,

128
00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,440
Speaker 5: as you know, like the debate when she was on

129
00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,680
Speaker 5: there with uh, what's her name? The other one from

130
00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 5: facin Nation, the two CBS people, It's like, do they

131
00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,440
Speaker 5: know what they're doing? Are they so so in the

132
00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,920
Speaker 5: bubble of people that agree with them, doesn't even feel

133
00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,040
Speaker 5: like they're being biased?

134
00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,479
Speaker 1: That's what I think it's the I think it's the

135
00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,800
Speaker 1: second one. Yeah, I think it is too.

136
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,520
Speaker 5: I think Norah O'Donnell feels like, no, I'm doing fair

137
00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,640
Speaker 5: coverage of what happened over the weekend.

138
00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520
Speaker 1: Trump's evil and Kamala is great. So what are you

139
00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,240
Speaker 1: talking about?

140
00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're either completely committed to that and yeah,

141
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,080
Speaker 4: I can't decide.

142
00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,600
Speaker 1: Now I'm going back and forth, because I was gonna

143
00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,600
Speaker 1: say they're both the both she and Kristen.

144
00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,160
Speaker 4: Welker are bright enough to understand how they're coming off.

145
00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,200
Speaker 4: But then I started thinking, well, maybe they don't care

146
00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,000
Speaker 4: that they're coming off that way because everybody they value,

147
00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,840
Speaker 4: everybody whose opinion they value in their lives, agrees with

148
00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,600
Speaker 4: that point of view. So I don't know how deliberate

149
00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,040
Speaker 4: and how unconscious it is, honestly, but it is absolutely egregious.

150
00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160
Speaker 5: That was I would have had to sit down for

151
00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,120
Speaker 5: a half an hour and really put some work into

152
00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,600
Speaker 5: it to do as good a job of campaigning for

153
00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris as that opening forty five seconds was on

154
00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,840
Speaker 5: the CBS Evening News. Let's make her sound bipartisan, have

155
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,360
Speaker 5: a good quote from a Republican about what a great

156
00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,800
Speaker 5: leader she will be, and then point out and exaggerate

157
00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,840
Speaker 5: any awful thing that Trump did taking a completely normal

158
00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 5: photo op and making it seem negative somehow.

159
00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,280
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, Well, there we have it there. It is so.

160
00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,840
Speaker 5: And I also always think, I think you know, half

161
00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,720
Speaker 5: the country is or more is going to vote for Trump.

162
00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,720
Speaker 5: They hate when you do that, they hate it a lot.

163
00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,520
Speaker 5: It makes them more likely to vote for Trump. Not

164
00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,720
Speaker 5: less you think you're convincing people. You are convincing them

165
00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,240
Speaker 5: to vote for Trump because it's so clear that the

166
00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,520
Speaker 5: mainstream media is in the bag for Kamala Well and

167
00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:47,839
Speaker 5: this guy.

168
00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,199
Speaker 4: I can't wait to get post Trump and get back

169
00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,960
Speaker 4: to just defending conservative values and policies. I think anything

170
00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,440
Speaker 4: that beclowns the mainstream media and points out their egregious

171
00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:05,440
Speaker 4: biases is probably a good thing. They've They've rendered themselves ridiculous, yead,

172
00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,440
Speaker 4: I'd say so.

173
00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,439
Speaker 5: So anyway, Kamala Harris did an interview yesterday. She didn't

174
00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,480
Speaker 5: do hardly any campaign stuff because she had a couple

175
00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,520
Speaker 5: of interviews. It's interesting if she ever did no appearances

176
00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,040
Speaker 5: of any sort. When she has an interview, she does

177
00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,600
Speaker 5: not campaign even two weeks out. Is it that taxing

178
00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,480
Speaker 5: or she has to be that focused to try to

179
00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,600
Speaker 5: get through an interview without a complete mess up.

180
00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

181
00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,920
Speaker 5: But anyway, she sat down with NBC and here's a

182
00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,480
Speaker 5: little bit of that.

183
00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,920
Speaker 9: It's a judgment question. That's why I ask, can the

184
00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,199
Speaker 9: American people trust you in these moments? Even when it's

185
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,200
Speaker 9: maybe uncomfortable. It sounds like what you're saying is you

186
00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,559
Speaker 9: feel like you never saw anything like that from President Bilin.

187
00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,520
Speaker 5: I got to set that up or nobody will have

188
00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,199
Speaker 5: any idea what they're talking about because we left out

189
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:53,280
Speaker 5: what they're set up is there? So is it Hayley Jackson, Yeah, yeah,

190
00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,320
Speaker 5: she was asking Kamala Harris about Biden's mental state and

191
00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,280
Speaker 5: did you ever see it? And you've stood up for

192
00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,000
Speaker 5: his mental state even though seventy five percent of Americans

193
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000
Speaker 5: believe he shouldn't be president, and he embarrassed himself in

194
00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,040
Speaker 5: the debate, So what gives?

195
00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,880
Speaker 1: How can people trust you? It's a judgment question.

196
00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,120
Speaker 9: That's why I ask, can the American people trust you

197
00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600
Speaker 9: in these moments? Even when it's maybe uncomfortable. It sounds

198
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,040
Speaker 9: like what you're saying is you feel like you never

199
00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,760
Speaker 9: saw anything like that from President Biden.

200
00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,440
Speaker 7: I have worked with Joe Biden, whether hours and hours

201
00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640
Speaker 7: and hours over these four years, whether it be in

202
00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 7: the situation room or the Oval office. Joe Biden is

203
00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,000
Speaker 7: the one who was able to bring NATO together during

204
00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,280
Speaker 7: a crisis where for the first time in seventy years,

205
00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,079
Speaker 7: Europe saw and has seen war. Joe Biden has done

206
00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,960
Speaker 7: the work that has been about being a leader on

207
00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960
Speaker 7: what we have done to fix so much of what

208
00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,040
Speaker 7: has been broken in terms of the economy because of

209
00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,400
Speaker 7: Donald Trump's mismanagement. I speak with not only sincerity, but

210
00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:04,040
Speaker 7: with a real first hand account of watching him do

211
00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:04,640
Speaker 7: this work.

212
00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,800
Speaker 1: I have no reluctance to saying that. Now, that's sound

213
00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,440
Speaker 1: like a dodge at all. Isn't that amazing? Yeah? Wow?

214
00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,040
Speaker 5: And the follow up should be, well the stuff I said.

215
00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:20,120
Speaker 5: Seventy five percent of Americans think he shouldn't be president again,

216
00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,360
Speaker 5: which is why he stepped down. We all saw him

217
00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,760
Speaker 5: at the debate. George Clooney wrote an op ed for

218
00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,680
Speaker 5: The New York Times saying, the guy at the debate

219
00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,319
Speaker 5: is who he saw at a fundraiser.

220
00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,160
Speaker 1: You're really saying you never saw that? Yeah, this is.

221
00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,400
Speaker 4: Why I wasn't that enthused about Brett Baarr asking the

222
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,680
Speaker 4: question in that interview.

223
00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,920
Speaker 1: She would just repeat what she just said.

224
00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,120
Speaker 5: Again. I think they think they're helping themselves. It's doing

225
00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,920
Speaker 5: more harm than good. Well, so, what would be a

226
00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,080
Speaker 5: good answer. Is there a good answer? Am I being

227
00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,760
Speaker 5: Are we being fair to her? Maybe there's not a

228
00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,320
Speaker 5: good answer.

229
00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,320
Speaker 1: No, there's not.

230
00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,080
Speaker 4: No, the Dodge is the only fair answer. Because he

231
00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,640
Speaker 4: was sen Island, she knew it. I will credit Hallie

232
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,960
Speaker 4: Jackson with a reasonable, you know, probing question there on

233
00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,680
Speaker 4: NBC News.

234
00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm pleasantly surprised.

235
00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's that's one of the great scandals of

236
00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,960
Speaker 5: I think it'll be written about years from now. It

237
00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,640
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like a scandal now, but she and others

238
00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,959
Speaker 5: covered up for a guy who should not be president.

239
00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,160
Speaker 5: He shouldn't be president right this moment. Right he's having

240
00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,800
Speaker 5: conversations with Lloyd Austin. I'm sure about this whole North

241
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,600
Speaker 5: Korea troops in Russia thing. Is he able to understand

242
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,280
Speaker 5: what the hell's going on? Is he awake? Or is

243
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,920
Speaker 5: the Secretary of State and the Second Deep Are they

244
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,640
Speaker 5: making decisions without input from the president because he's not

245
00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,080
Speaker 5: having a good day that.

246
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,280
Speaker 1: This shouldn't be known.

247
00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,880
Speaker 5: I need more evidence to answer your question. Can we

248
00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,080
Speaker 5: listen to clip forty two?

249
00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,600
Speaker 1: Please? This is Biden yesterday in conquered New Hampshire. This

250
00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,360
Speaker 1: the guy also wants to place.

251
00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,040
Speaker 10: Every civil servant, every single one thinks he has a

252
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,400
Speaker 10: writer of the Streme Court ruling on immunity to be

253
00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,680
Speaker 10: able to if need be, if there's a case to

254
00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,760
Speaker 10: actually eliminate, physically eliminated, shoot kill someone who is he

255
00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,640
Speaker 10: needs to be a threat to him. I mean, so,

256
00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,840
Speaker 10: I know this sounds bizarre. It sounds like I said

257
00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,600
Speaker 10: this five years ago. You'd locked me up. We gotta

258
00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:21,199
Speaker 10: lock him out, political vocuum.

259
00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,840
Speaker 1: Out, lock him out. That's what we have to do.

260
00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:33,160
Speaker 1: Lock him out. Wow politically wow wow. Boy.

261
00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,400
Speaker 5: Well he'll be gone in January. That's quite a ways away.

262
00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,200
Speaker 5: January twenty.

263
00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 4: That's an awful long time given the geopolitical tensions.

264
00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,840
Speaker 1: Rember December January.

265
00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,080
Speaker 5: That's three months from a couple of weeks ago. Three

266
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,880
Speaker 5: months is a long time to be president when you

267
00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,120
Speaker 5: have your brain works like that.

268
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,880
Speaker 10: Mess for them in work, unless you want to get better.

269
00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,360
Speaker 5: Cuban missile crisis was what twelve days? Yeah exactly.

270
00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,440
Speaker 1: We got more on the way, Strong and Getty, this

271
00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,440
Speaker 1: is going viral.

272
00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,200
Speaker 5: Pizza Hut is offering a new experience to diners in

273
00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:05,600
Speaker 5: New York.

274
00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,520
Speaker 1: Take a look at this well restaurant.

275
00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,480
Speaker 11: Chain is opening up a one person reservation only restaurant.

276
00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,960
Speaker 11: Beginning today in Queens, diners are rather the diner at

277
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,520
Speaker 11: the restaurant. We'll get fifteen minutes to enjoy their very

278
00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,680
Speaker 11: own six inch personal tan pizza.

279
00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,480
Speaker 5: New Yorkers were like to us, that's a four bedroom apartment. Yeah,

280
00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,440
Speaker 5: I think the visual matters on that. It's a little

281
00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,120
Speaker 5: shed that's made to look like at pizza hut, but

282
00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,800
Speaker 5: it only has for one person that's sitting there and

283
00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,640
Speaker 5: eat a little.

284
00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,960
Speaker 1: Pizza like that being left alone sign. Yeah, I'm busy eating.

285
00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,760
Speaker 4: We barely have any time look at that anyway. A

286
00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,240
Speaker 4: couple of other consumer related stories that I found were interesting.

287
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,160
Speaker 1: Starbucks, Jack, you're a big Starbucks guy. I only really hit.

288
00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 4: Starbucks in an airport once in a while. I kind

289
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,120
Speaker 4: of a coffee at home type. But they've been taking

290
00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,360
Speaker 4: on water. Can you say that about a nobody that

291
00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,480
Speaker 4: sells liquids? Probably not, but they've been struggling mightily of late.

292
00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,920
Speaker 4: They've got a new CEO, Brian Nichol, who's taken over

293
00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 4: from the old guy who drove it into the ground,

294
00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,280
Speaker 4: and he's credited with saving Chipotle and young brands and

295
00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,160
Speaker 4: that sort of thing.

296
00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,640
Speaker 1: So the stocks way up. But I'm just curious what

297
00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,160
Speaker 1: you think. And fellow Starbucks fans think his new message

298
00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,359
Speaker 1: slogan is back to Starbucks.

299
00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,520
Speaker 5: I like that, And they're going to get away from

300
00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,360
Speaker 5: the hyper efficient, highly digital, robotic mixed drinks and get

301
00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,720
Speaker 5: more into the coffee shop.

302
00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,040
Speaker 1: Feel.

303
00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the idea of that. As a guy

304
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,280
Speaker 5: who goes in there and gets coffee. They have nine

305
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,160
Speaker 5: thousand different kinds of drinks you can get that aren't coffee.

306
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,280
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing that's going to be less hyper

307
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,080
Speaker 4: efficient though, it's going to be slower and more relaxed.

308
00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,320
Speaker 5: Well, I know they're going to pare down the menu

309
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,160
Speaker 5: because there are something like eight thousand different sorts of

310
00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,720
Speaker 5: things you can order, and they're going to try to

311
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560
Speaker 5: pair that way way, way way back, which would help

312
00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,040
Speaker 5: a big Other part of it, too, is the way

313
00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,560
Speaker 5: they handle their bathroom situation because of that that happened

314
00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,120
Speaker 5: in Philadelphia with the people they didn't allow in the

315
00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,760
Speaker 5: bathroom and its college kids and they have blah blah blah. Anyway,

316
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,400
Speaker 5: so every bathroom situation every Starbucks in America is horrible,

317
00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,040
Speaker 5: and that that's a problem. It used to be a

318
00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600
Speaker 5: very nice clean place you could go to and know

319
00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,280
Speaker 5: you could go in there, like when my kids were younger.

320
00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,360
Speaker 5: That's the one you could count on to go find

321
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,320
Speaker 5: a nice, clean bathroom.

322
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,320
Speaker 1: And then that all went away.

323
00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,240
Speaker 4: One report I saw a reference the nineteen ninety eight

324
00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400
Speaker 4: joke in the Onion that I still remember, oddly enough,

325
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,239
Speaker 4: the satirical headline new Starbucks opens in restroom of existing Starbucks.

326
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,480
Speaker 4: Starbucks had twenty five hundred stores at the time. Today

327
00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,520
Speaker 4: it has tripled that many in China alone. Wow, and

328
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,200
Speaker 4: about forty thousand worldwide.

329
00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,800
Speaker 5: I didn't know Starbucks was a big thing in China.

330
00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 5: You know what I didn't get to is chaos packaging.

331
00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,760
Speaker 5: It's the new trend in consumer goods. Chaos packaging, unexpected

332
00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,480
Speaker 5: packaging like ice cream, tubs of tampons that's for Tim

333
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,520
Speaker 5: Watz and sunscreen from a whipped cream can.

334
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,359
Speaker 1: That's the new trend.

335
00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,119
Speaker 5: To look for it on shelves near you all explain

336
00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,080
Speaker 5: later on, speaking of tampon, Tim, he dropped some bad

337
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,680
Speaker 5: language himself yesterday, among other things on the way say knucklehead,

338
00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,200
Speaker 5: armstrong and geddy.

339
00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:18,920
Speaker 1: Forever.

340
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,399
Speaker 12: He was saying she never worked at McDonald's never, so

341
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,680
Speaker 12: now he took himself to McDonald's.

342
00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,000
Speaker 5: That was McDonald's.

343
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,119
Speaker 1: That was clothes, and he.

344
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,480
Speaker 5: Wasn't wearing a hairnet, which really bothered me.

345
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, no net, really you I don't want some French fried.

346
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,639
Speaker 1: She actually worked in a McDonald's.

347
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,800
Speaker 12: She didn't go and pander and disrespect McDonald's workers by

348
00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,280
Speaker 12: standing there in your red tie and take a.

349
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 5: Picture who worked briefly as a fry cooker without a hairnet,

350
00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,720
Speaker 5: I might add. I listened to some punditry around this,

351
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,960
Speaker 5: a lot of punditry around this, from super smart people

352
00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,840
Speaker 5: on both sides, almost all of them agreeing that that

353
00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 5: was a brilliant atop pr thing that Trump did. But

354
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,760
Speaker 5: it wouldn't have been a very big deal really, because

355
00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,879
Speaker 5: that sort of thing happens all the time, if the

356
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,160
Speaker 5: Democrats hadn't like, jumped on it and made it into

357
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 5: such a big deal and criticized it so much and

358
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,240
Speaker 5: given it so much attention. And I heard it you

359
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,240
Speaker 5: used as the example of taking the bait. Remember how

360
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 5: ridiculous it was that Kamala Harris so easily baited Trump

361
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,800
Speaker 5: into talking about his rallies instead of immigration and the economy.

362
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 5: People leave your rallies Oh wait a second, No, they don't.

363
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,359
Speaker 5: They did the same thing with the McDonald's up. He

364
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,520
Speaker 5: shows up McDonald's and then the left goes nuts and

365
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,679
Speaker 5: they can't stop talking about it, and they're trying to

366
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 5: describe why it was awful. Just allows more coverage of

367
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 5: Trump there in his tie servant fries and uh and

368
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 5: that's that works for some reason for Trump in a

369
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 5: way that other politicians would look ridiculous.

370
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's partly that, you know, he's a big, famous,

371
00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,120
Speaker 4: billionaire celebrity, and so it's just amusing to see him

372
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,159
Speaker 4: doing that, and he's good at it.

373
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, the so called backlash to it had a

374
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,679
Speaker 5: very frantic why am mad? Bro feel to it?

375
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 1: Right? Just what are you so mad about? Aes? We

376
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 1: know it was a staged event. What do you think

377
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 1: he actually like got a job there? What are you

378
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 1: even trying to say? Kind of funny, Yeah, but uh

379
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 1: so I came across this.

380
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 5: They had to close down the Yelp reviews of that

381
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,880
Speaker 5: McDonald's because started trolling them so much.

382
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 4: Help reviews of McDonald's. Yeah, two stars. It tastes like

383
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 4: every other McDonald's.

384
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 5: There's what the hell, Well, there's people trolling the fact.

385
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 5: It's like, for instance, this one that I was funny.

386
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 5: Tried the McDonald's in Feasterville today. Customer service was a joke.

387
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 5: A senile old man, old man got bronzer on my fries.

388
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: Okay, that's funny. Ceni, old man got.

389
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 5: Bronzer on my fries, didn't wear gloves, repeated himself several times,

390
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 5: something about Ronald McDonald and the showers at the golf club.

391
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't no zero stars. You know that's funny.

392
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 5: Ronald McDonald would come out of the come out of

393
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 5: the locker room, and all the other clowns would be like, whoa,

394
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 5: there's a clown.

395
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 1: He was a real clay. He was all clown.

396
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 4: Hey, you got a couple, not one, but a couple

397
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 4: of emails. First of all, I saw a story something

398
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: to the effect of McDonald's workers have been sworn to secrecy,

399
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 4: or something about the Kamala Harris working there and not

400
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 4: working there years and years and years ago. But a

401
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 4: couple of people wrote, almost back to back, this is dell.

402
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 4: If Harris worked at McDonald's in the seventies or thereabouts,

403
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 4: it would be recorded under Social Security account. I worked

404
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 4: at a garden shop in the early sixties, early sixties,

405
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 4: and it's right there how much I made and how

406
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: much was withheld for Social Security.

407
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: And then Gabe said, Jent, social Security keeps track of

408
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: your work history.

409
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 5: They have my two weeks at McDonald's from nineteen eighty four.

410
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 5: I was the most incredible fry guy, by the way,

411
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 5: amazing with my human hands.

412
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: By Gabe.

413
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 5: I think I think she's working at McDonald's, she claims

414
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 5: in eighty two, because she and I and you are

415
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 5: the same age.

416
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 1: And but yeah, I don't know.

417
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 5: I don't I suppose if she made that up, that's

418
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 5: an interesting story. How don't they think the fact that

419
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 5: she did work at McDonald's that interesting? If she claims

420
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 5: she didn't, she didn't, that would be an interesting thing

421
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 5: to do, right.

422
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 4: And it's all in service to that whole I grew

423
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 4: up in a hard scrabble working class neighborhood and family,

424
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 4: which is clearly not true. But the fact that this

425
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 4: much time and energy is being spent scrutinizing that that

426
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 4: claims a little silly anyway, in my opinion. I mean,

427
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: there are plenty of world leaders and thinkers who grew

428
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: up in a fair amount of wealth and were brilliant

429
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 4: and effective. Likewise, Abe Lincoln could not have been more poor.

430
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 4: They were starving, and he's one of the great presidents ever.

431
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: No, a lot of our founding fathers were quite wealthy

432
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 5: and come from wealthy family's Fdr Churchill, you get and

433
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 5: you all kinds of examples. Here's Tim Walls yes day

434
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: on the campaign trail. We could discuss this a little bit.

435
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 12: I'm gonna talk about his running mate.

436
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: His running mate, Elon Musk.

437
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 12: Seriously, Elon's on that stage, jumping around, skipping like a

438
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 12: dip on these stones.

439
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: You know it.

440
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Wow. Listen to that crowd, though, think about it.

441
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 12: Think about that that guy is literally the richest man

442
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 12: in the world, spending millions of dollars to help Donald

443
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 12: Trump by an election.

444
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 5: Man, Tim Walls is way better at that sort of

445
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 5: thing than he is sitting for an interview. Tell you

446
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: that he just seems so lost, deer in the headlights

447
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 5: and uncomfortable in interviews in front of a big crowd

448
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: doing the whole you know, populism, lefty thing.

449
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: He's really good at that. But were there any.

450
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 4: Old tampon, Tim who puts tampons in boys rooms? Old coach,

451
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 4: well assistant coach Tim Mocking. A guy's the richest guy

452
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: on earth because he's built so many incredibly innovative companies.

453
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the leftis populism thing.

454
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 5: But did any were there any headlines about vulgarity the

455
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 5: Harris campaign lowering themselves to vulgarity to try to describe

456
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 5: their opponents like they did, O'Donnell miss that one like

457
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 5: they did with Trump all weekend long? Or does does

458
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 5: the left get to call somebody a dip s but

459
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 5: the right can?

460
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 13: I mean, come on, yes, Katie, I just found it

461
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 13: striking that he was saying that considering that his son's

462
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 13: on the spectrum and we all know that Elon Musk

463
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 13: is on the spectrum, So to be calling him a

464
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 13: dip s for jumping around on the stage like he did,

465
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 13: that's kind of a double standard too.

466
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an a hole.

467
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: Tim Wawlsh is not a nice person and I'm a

468
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 5: knucklehead at times. So just on vote a lion, A

469
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 5: hole is what you are. Just on voting in general.

470
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 5: I don't know if you agree with this or not.

471
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 5: This is my take on the whole voting thing, because I,

472
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 5: for instance, You've got Liz Cheney out there campaigning hard

473
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 5: for Kamala Harris, talking about what a great leader she's

474
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: going to be and how she'll get abortion back to

475
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 5: where it needs to be.

476
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: Liz Cheney is one of the most hardcore pro.

477
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 5: Life Republican people we've had in recent decades. She co

478
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 5: authored legislation that would have banned abortion nationwide.

479
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: From the moment of conception.

480
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 5: And now she's on stage with Kamala Harris pushing Kamla

481
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 5: because she because she doesn't like Trump. So I get

482
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 5: not liking Trump, right, I don't get puffing up Kamala Harris.

483
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: So I'm confused by that whole thing. We'll eat in.

484
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 5: Directions and he's saying specifically about abortion or just bizarre

485
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 5: given her sponsorship of that bill that whether you want

486
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 5: to call it conception or fertilization, it was like, from

487
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 5: the moment sperm meets egg, that is a human being.

488
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: Now she's saying that well with Roe v.

489
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 4: Wade, the Dobbs decision that some of the things being

490
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: done in the States, I mean, these six week deadlines

491
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: for having an abortion, it's just it's gone too far.

492
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: So I'm in favor of Kamala her the way.

493
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: She despises Trump I think has caused her to lose

494
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: her freaking mind.

495
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you could endorse Kamla.

496
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 4: You could do the John Kelly you think he's a

497
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 4: dictator thing. You could make all manner of speeches and

498
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: actions and not campaign with her making just inexplicable claims

499
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 4: about abortion specifically. I mean, it's it's mystifying what's going

500
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: on with Liz Chaney.

501
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: I have a number of conservative or libertarian type friends

502
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 5: who can't vote for Donald Trump, But you don't need

503
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 5: to go around inflating Kamala Harris over it or vice versa.

504
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't understand.

505
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 5: My point of view is one of those two people

506
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 5: are gonna win, and so which one would you prefer?

507
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 5: Is not a horrible position, I don't I don't quite

508
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 5: get the you hold your vote so precious that even

509
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 5: behind closed doors in a state that wouldn't matter, you

510
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 5: can't pull the lever for one person because like God's watching,

511
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 5: or your soul is hurt or something.

512
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: I don't quite get.

513
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 5: That one of those two people are going to be

514
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 5: in charge of the country, which would you rather have?

515
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 5: I don't understand why people can't answer that question. I

516
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 5: could go into that, but after that from Prize Picks,

517
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 5: America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five

518
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: million active members easiest to Prize Picks is the easiest

519
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 5: and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports.

520
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: Unlike other apps, that's you against the numbers.

521
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: All you do is pick more or less on at

522
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 5: least at least two player stat projections up to six

523
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 5: and why the winnings roll.

524
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: In Pretty cool right now.

525
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 5: You went up to one hundred times your money on

526
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 5: Price Picks with as little as four correct picks, so

527
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: if you tend to be good at this, you should

528
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 5: jump on that right away. Price Picks puts its members first,

529
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 5: so all withdrawals are fast, safe and secure, and when

530
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: your picks hit, you can get your money and as

531
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 5: quick as fifteen minutes.

532
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: And Prize Picks invented the flex play, which means you

533
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: can still cash out even if your lineup isn't perfect.

534
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: You can double your money even if one of your

535
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: picks doesn't hit, So you know.

536
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 5: Go a little, go a lot, pick a couple of guys,

537
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: pick it's half a dozen, whatever you want.

538
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: Download the Prize Picks app today.

539
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 5: Use the code of Armstrong, get fifty dollars instantly when

540
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 5: you play five dollars. That's the coat Armstrong on Prize Picks,

541
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 5: get fifty bucks instantly when you play five dollars, and

542
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: you don't need to win to get that fifty dollars bonus.

543
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 5: It's guaranteed either way. Prize Picks run your game. Can

544
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 5: answer your question if if you think.

545
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: Both choices are terrible, and it doesn't matter what your

546
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: vote is, why would you bother voting?

547
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't if.

548
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 5: That's fine, but I don't understand the lack of willingness

549
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 5: of people just to say who would you rather have

550
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: be president? I feel like it's being a pacifist. It's

551
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 5: taking the easy way out. Sorry, I'm a pacifist. Okay,

552
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: that's fine, but war exists and you have to have

553
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: an opinion or you've just decided not to participate.

554
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have be president? Kamala Harris, I'm.

555
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: Not seeing you wrong. It's just a question of how

556
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: you look at life. I guess in morality.

557
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: If you think they're both monsters, don't vote for either

558
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: one of them, vote for a third party, or don't

559
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 5: vote for anybody.

560
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: Vote for Senator, vote for Congress. I think that's a

561
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: perfectly defensible position. It's difficult to come up with a

562
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: good metaphor that compares, you know, like your your war one.

563
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 5: That's that Pacifism. It's a good one because it's going

564
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: to happen whether you participate or not. Would you like

565
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: to have a role in it with one of them?

566
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: A role in.

567
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 5: One or the other unless you're in a swing state.

568
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: It's a purely symbolic role. True, true, true, But I

569
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: just I just feel like it's an easy out. It's

570
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: like when I'm in a crowd of people, I'm a pacifist. Okay,

571
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: so you don't have to engage in the real conversation

572
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: of what's going to happen here, Fine, then go stand

573
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: in the corner. But in the real world, these things

574
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 5: are happening, pick one or the other. I don't understand it.

575
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 5: Why I don't chew anything in one of the most

576
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: important things that goes on in the country in a

577
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: purely symbolic way.

578
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all.

579
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: You can have a strong and learned opinion on every

580
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: single issue that the country faces and not cast a

581
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: vote for president.

582
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: I guess as an individual at your home, sure, but

583
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: as any sort of you have any sort of public role.

584
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: I guess I'm thinking about Liz Cheney and lots of

585
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: different people. You have any sort of public role. One

586
00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: of two people are gonna win, So true, but what

587
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: what I don't want? I don't get it the and

588
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: the third party choice or whatever. I guess you can

589
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: kind of make the argumentory about you're trying to help

590
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: build another party, which could happen over time.

591
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

592
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: I voted for libertarians for a long time because I

593
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: wanted to pull the Republican Party closer to UH liberty

594
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: in general, small l libertarianism. The Libertarian Party is off

595
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: the crackpot, but small libertarianism.

596
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this discussion?

597
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: Mail Bag at Armstrong in Giddy dot com is the

598
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: email address that's mail bag at Armstrong and Giddy dot com,

599
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: or if you'd like to text us if that's more

600
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: of your style. Four one five two nine five k

601
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: FTC four one five two nine five KFTC.

602
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: Eminem's all in for Kamala Harris. Now I feel like

603
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 5: he's crossed that line in dying dyeing your hair and

604
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: your beard to where now it looks ridiculous. You can

605
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: do it for a while, but now he's at the

606
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: age where it just as silly.

607
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: So your your criticism is not extending to his indorsement

608
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: of a progressive moron, indeed his rejection of the inevitable

609
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: signs of aging.

610
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: I really do not look to musicians, rappers of any

611
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: kind to tell me what's the best direction to go

612
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 5: for me.

613
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: It's oboists.

614
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 5: An oboist I can trust because they're not showy, poet earnest,

615
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 5: they work hard. I'm into the poll. What do the

616
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 5: poets think? That's what I always say. First my first question?

617
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: We got more in the way, I stay with us?

618
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: Just what going?

619
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: I was gonna make another musical note. The thing about

620
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: the Eagles is they never overplayed the silences, the space

621
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: between the notes.

622
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: That's the key.

623
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: Justin Bieber suing his managers for squandering three hundred million

624
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 5: dollar fortune, that'll be quite the story if it's true.

625
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: Oh that would hurt woo oh man. That's the tale

626
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: as old as time management ripping off a creative artist.

627
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: No, especially if you're like a fourteen year old.

628
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: H If you heard the preceding discussion about voting and

629
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: not voting, that sort of thing and just everything we've

630
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: been talking about.

631
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: You'll enjoy this note from Ryan in Houston.

632
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: Guys, in a couple of weeks it will be president

633
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: elect Pumpkins Spice Hitler or Kamala?

634
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: Is this my butt or a hole in the ground.

635
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: Pumpkin spice Hitler. That is clever. You should send that

636
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: to Fallon. That's good. That's really clever Ryan. If you

637
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: look at the candidates that way, you should just to

638
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: expect the one you don't like to win and then

639
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 5: find out.

640
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: Who's running for your city council because that'll be a

641
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: better use of your time instead of hoping your god

642
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: emperor wins and smites your enemies.

643
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: That's a good email, right there. Yeah, and then he says, ps,

644
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: it's my birthday. Can you play the reck of the

645
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Edmund Fitzgerald? No, No, we can't, fella. It's been good

646
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: to know you. Oh boy. So I mentioned chaos packaging. Earlier.

647
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: Companies are selling sunscreen in whipped cream cans, water and

648
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Tall Boys, better known for beer and dumponds in ice

649
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: cream tubs. As surprise surprising, packaging becomes a sharper tool

650
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: for marketers.

651
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: I have noticed the beverages in different kinds of cans.

652
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: Thing interesting and marketing isn't yes, and for some reason

653
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 5: it's appealing.

654
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: Marketing and venture capital consultant You've Never heard of Them

655
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: calls the trend chaos packaging. Other examples include Ilva Serrano's

656
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 4: Engine Gin, which comes in motor oil containers, and Machino's

657
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: Fresh Cooture perfume, which is packaged in window cleaner like

658
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: spray bottles.

659
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about this, but like some water, I

660
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: bought a bottle of water at the store and it

661
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 5: came in a can, like a kind of like a

662
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: beer can or a popcan or something. For some reason,

663
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: I chose that because I just thought it was kind

664
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: of cool or something.

665
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's it.

666
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: This marketing guy explains pages that cause some kind of

667
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: cognitive dissonance are more likely to capture the attention of

668
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: shoppers than traditional boxes, bottles.

669
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: And cans interesting, so that appeals to brands.

670
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: Particularly as advertising becomes more expensive, suppliers battle for shelf

671
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: space and direct a consumer model popularized by startups in

672
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: the twenty tens begins to sag under the weight of

673
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: logistics costs and consumers desires for one stop shopping.

674
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: I've got this new tomato soup that comes in a

675
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: shoe box.

676
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: Yes, Katie, Wow, there's some logistical challenges to that idea.

677
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 8: But there's a really cool brand called Liquid Death and

678
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 8: they sell water, but they sell it in a tall

679
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 8: can that looks like a beer at like concerts and stuff,

680
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 8: so if you're not drinking, you don't feel the pressure

681
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 8: of you know.

682
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: That's actually one of the very brands that they highlight

683
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: in this article. Well done.

684
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just why am I? I'm just going

685
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: to say it.

686
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 4: Flow, which is the company that sells ladies' devices in

687
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: the ice cream thing, said it's packaging nods to the

688
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: sugar and fat cre that often descend upon women during

689
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: their periods, but the company especially wanted to make sure

690
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 4: it's products caught shopper's eyes on shelves packed with long

691
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: established brands.

692
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: I think it's smart, like it's silly.

693
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: I like my brown gravy to come in a salt shaker.

694
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 5: That's just the way I am.

695
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: The venture backed olive oil startup Gratza became a millennial favorite,

696
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: primarily thanks to choosing squeezable condiment like bottles instead of

697
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: the traditional glass for all of them.

698
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, huh. I'll be darn I fell

699
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: for it subliminally or subconsciously or something.

700
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about the tampoons

701
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 8: and the ice cream.

702
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: Man, mind your own damn business.

703
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: Tampoons like that, We'll we'll be stealing that one for

704
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: years and years.

705
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah's funny, whatever it takes to get attention. I guess

706
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: chaos packaging Joe. That's right.

707
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 4: They give the example of this guy who's a big

708
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: guy in the field. He founded Eos in twenty eight,

709
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: a skincare company that packaged lip ball in spheres rather

710
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: than sticks.

711
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: Right right, I remember that craze started. Yeah huh. I'll

712
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: be darned.

713
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: We're so easily manipulated and we don't even notice it.

714
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: Uh boy.

715
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 5: The October surprise maybe has dropped about hit uh Trump.

716
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: I almost said it row my cowbo