Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'm that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty.
Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for Dake Ado steak?
Speaker 2: Is that whoo whoom? And Dan and Ty welcome back
Speaker 2: to the solid verbal boys and girls. My name is
Speaker 2: Ty hilden Brandt. I am joined as always. I'm a
Speaker 2: good friend over there in beautiful in sort of yucky
Speaker 2: New York City. It's cold, it's rainy, Dan Rubinstein, how
Speaker 2: are you? I have made such a mistake flying back here.
Speaker 2: But otherwise, Ty, I'm doing pretty well.
Speaker 1: I have my tea. Yeah, I've been extraordinarily lazy, uh
Speaker 1: these past few days. A lot of sweatpants time and
Speaker 1: a lot of football time. And back in the office
Speaker 1: for the first time. I think I left. Did I
Speaker 1: leave like the twenty first something? It's been. It's been
Speaker 1: a bit and I'm very happy about it.
Speaker 2: Well, cool, it's good to have you back. Yeah was
Speaker 2: what seven days now it's been since we've recorded a
Speaker 2: show feels.
Speaker 1: Far too long. It feels like a long time. We're
Speaker 1: in communication. Yet I still miss you.
Speaker 2: I know. It's weird, but suffice to say, We're going
Speaker 2: to shake off the cob webs tonight and talk about
Speaker 2: a bunch of ball action, of course, highlighted by the
Speaker 2: victories of Alabama and Clempson on New Year's Eve spoiler earlier,
Speaker 2: well on ty that's why people are tuning in, that's
Speaker 2: true to get the results. We had some other great
Speaker 2: bowl action. We had the Orange Bowl, which was awesome
Speaker 2: between Michigan and Florida State, the Rose Bowl. We're recording
Speaker 2: this on a Tuesday, so last night the Rose Bowl
Speaker 2: was just incredible. We're going to get into all of
Speaker 2: that and much much more, plus some news on coaching moves.
Speaker 2: We've got some news on NFL declarations, Dan, is there
Speaker 2: anything I'm leaving out?
Speaker 1: Coach just got fired a few minutes before we started recording,
Speaker 1: so that's always not that fun, but it's news. We've
Speaker 1: got a new booger picker in college football.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stay tuned.
Speaker 1: To find out who that is. And that's pretty I
Speaker 1: feel like, and I know we're going to get into
Speaker 1: the playoff games. First. I just want to say it
Speaker 1: felt really nice at the moment. Since we haven't seen
Speaker 1: the National Championship game yet, it feels like the season
Speaker 1: has been sort of bookended at the moment by two
Speaker 1: just incredible shootouts. And that's all things considered. And there
Speaker 1: are all sorts of things to complain about, with conference
Speaker 1: strength in the bottom of certain conferences being weak, and
Speaker 1: quarterback play perhaps being not on the level as we've
Speaker 1: seen in recent years. The fact that we had that
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Texas game to sort of begin the first
Speaker 1: weekend and the Rose Bowl. You may not like the
Speaker 1: fact that those were like fifty to forty nine, fifty
Speaker 1: two to forty nine shootouts, And you might be and
Speaker 1: I sincerely hope you're not the type of person that says, uh,
Speaker 1: it's called defense. Maybe try it sometimes? Is that the
Speaker 1: John U. Bacon voice? You know what this is? Like,
Speaker 1: frank you Bacon? That's who I picture, Frank you Bacon.
Speaker 1: It's called defense. So I feel good about that fact
Speaker 1: that we had this really nice, entertaining TV show of
Speaker 1: college football book end thus far.
Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the playoff games, since those were,
Speaker 2: of course the two headliners again played on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: This year's ego, Oh killing me awesome. I love that
Speaker 2: sound so much, Dan, I love that sound. I know
Speaker 2: it's going to be irrelevant. I think from this point forward,
Speaker 2: the playoff ratings were up ever so slightly from a
Speaker 2: year ago. Well they sort of had to be, they
Speaker 2: had to be, but still way down from the first
Speaker 2: year of this thing back in twenty fourteen. I would imagine,
Speaker 2: is it safe to say that this was the final
Speaker 2: shovel of dirt on this idea of creating a quote
Speaker 2: unquote new tradition.
Speaker 1: I would hope so, ty, I would hope so. I
Speaker 1: don't have the dates in front of me moving forward,
Speaker 1: but I would sincerely, sincerely hope so. And I know
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve and Rose Ball and Big ten made
Speaker 1: a deal to keep the Rose Bowl away from the
Speaker 1: Playoff as much as possible, to maintain the stupidity of
Speaker 1: tradition in their very certain sense. But I hope that
Speaker 1: the Playoff continues to evolve and every single way possible
Speaker 1: to make it a better experience for everybody.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens moving forward. I did go
Speaker 2: on the College Football Playoff website. They've shifted the dates
Speaker 2: around on outside so that the next I believe year
Speaker 2: in which we will have these games put on New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve would be like twenty twenty one. Or twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, So it's a pretty good ways off my hunches.
Speaker 2: By the time it gets to that point in time,
Speaker 2: this won't be a thing anymore. We might have more
Speaker 2: teams in the playoff by then for all we know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next year is New Year's Day, Jan one, Rose
Speaker 1: and Sugar. The following year Cotton and Orange on December
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, Peach and Fiesta, December twenty eighth, Rose and Sugar,
Speaker 1: Jan one.
Speaker 2: They're trying to do it on a Saturday, is what
Speaker 2: they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Right, And then the twenty twenty one twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: season is December thirty first, Orange Bowl on one and
Speaker 1: TBD on the other. Let's assume Moscow. Let's just assume
Speaker 1: that they're going to be in the running, but we
Speaker 1: cannot say with certainty.
Speaker 2: Anyway, hopefully we're through the woods here on this whole
Speaker 2: New Year's evening. But let's get into the games. Den.
Speaker 2: The first game was, of course, the Chick fil A
Speaker 2: Peach Bowl played down there in Atlanta, Alabama was a
Speaker 2: hefty favorite, and they won the game twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: Surprised at all.
Speaker 1: Surprise that Washington only scored seven, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: we've seen Alabama's defense this year. Leading up to this game,
Speaker 1: I was very curious to see because we had seen
Speaker 1: the SEC not play perhaps super well, and the Pac
Speaker 1: twelve not play super well, and to see which of
Speaker 1: these offenses would come to play against two very good defenses,
Speaker 1: and sort of how to gauge, if at all, postseason
Speaker 1: results up to that point and say, okay, well, Washington
Speaker 1: struggled with Utah a little bit, is that going to
Speaker 1: come back to hunt them against Alabama? And I would
Speaker 1: say that the biggest surprising thing is that Washington wasn't
Speaker 1: able to at least mount drives. Not that they weren't
Speaker 1: able to score twenty points against Alabama, because that's almost
Speaker 1: an impossibility unless you're Chad Kelly or doctor Bo at
Speaker 1: this point, or Deshaun Watson. It was that Washington couldn't
Speaker 1: get creative enough and couldn't adjust well enough to combat
Speaker 1: just a stupidly talented and deep Alabama front to just
Speaker 1: put together a forty seven yard drive that ended in
Speaker 1: three or put together a thirty eight yard drive that
Speaker 1: pinned Alabama or something like that. It just that was
Speaker 1: the surprising thing, and also the surprising thing is that
Speaker 1: Alabama continues to find ways to comfortably win with subpar
Speaker 1: quarterback play. Not that it's a surprise given the defense,
Speaker 1: but given that it hasn't come around to really haunt
Speaker 1: them against a very good team like Washington.
Speaker 2: Clearly is Yeah. I mean, what did we say in
Speaker 2: the build up to this game? A lot hinged on
Speaker 2: whether or not Washington was going to be able to
Speaker 2: run the ball at all. Right, right, they need to
Speaker 2: and they need to give Jake Browning some balance. He's
Speaker 2: a good quarterback, but he's better when he's balanced. Washington
Speaker 2: rushed for forty four yards dan about one point five
Speaker 2: per carry. The rest was on Browning. To his credit,
Speaker 2: I don't think he looked horrible. It wasn't in a
Speaker 2: possibly bad performance, but you know, given the fact that
Speaker 2: he was under pressure all game, got sacked five times,
Speaker 2: it was just too much to ask for him. So
Speaker 2: I don't think his performance was all that terrible. It's
Speaker 2: just he couldn't do it all himself. One thing that
Speaker 2: did surprise me though, Now you mentioned Jalen Hurts and
Speaker 2: the quarterback play was subpar, But I thought Washington's defense
Speaker 2: actually really good, held it together pretty well, right, how
Speaker 2: much better are you gonna do against Alabama than twenty
Speaker 2: four points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gave up the long run to Bo Scarborough,
Speaker 1: but all things considered, especially the way that they were
Speaker 1: harassing Jalen Hurts, not letting him really get loose in
Speaker 1: the running game, they did a fantastic job. And they've
Speaker 1: had the secondary all year. I mean, Buddhabaker just a
Speaker 1: claret and we'll talk about some NFL declarations later. Sidney
Speaker 1: Jones has been an excellent corner all season long, but
Speaker 1: without arguably two of their maybe three best players, without
Speaker 1: has seen Victor and Joe Mathis, Washington had a sound
Speaker 1: game plan ad just to Alabama's offense really really well.
Speaker 1: They did the now former Alabama offensive coordinator Lane Kiffen
Speaker 1: and his game plan, and it was It was one
Speaker 1: of those things where you saw Washington's defense and especially
Speaker 1: their front, hold up to Alabama as well as they
Speaker 1: probably could have, considering the talent divide between maybe Washington
Speaker 1: some other defenses in the SEC. The difference to me
Speaker 1: is something you hammered on already Washington's offensive line, and
Speaker 1: it's not even just a depth thing, it's just a
Speaker 1: talent thing. You saw right off the bat. They just
Speaker 1: could not control the Alabama front at all, and it's
Speaker 1: it's such a hard ask. And to give credit to
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson and the offensive staff of Washington, I thought
Speaker 1: the game plan pretty well for Alabama. They weren't asking
Speaker 1: Jake Browning to take deep drops and step into the
Speaker 1: pocket and read a defense. They're getting it out of
Speaker 1: his hand quick. They were trying to run screens, They're
Speaker 1: trying to get into the perimeter, and there's just so
Speaker 1: much you can I can't obviously can't do against this
Speaker 1: Alabama defense. So I think Washington proved that they belonged
Speaker 1: inasmuch as they will they will continue to grow moving forward.
Speaker 1: But it was a talent divide spotlight and I tweeted
Speaker 1: this out during the game time. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you agree or disagree with this. Quarterbacks that beat Alabama
Speaker 1: and I listed them by traits that are not necessarily
Speaker 1: super favorable, But it always seems like the guys that
Speaker 1: have beaten Alabama have like an irrational confidence to them
Speaker 1: just to screw a little bit loose.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say there's an X factor there that
Speaker 2: makes them unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Yes, so total wild cards. So Chad Kelly, Doctor Bo,
Speaker 1: Trevor Knight, Steven Garcia in twenty ten. Who am I missing? Obviously,
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, those guys, they all seem to have just like,
Speaker 1: all right, screw it, I'm going deep. I am just
Speaker 1: going to take chances. I'm going to throw early. And
Speaker 1: the thing that those guys also had was big receivers.
Speaker 1: And you look at what Washington has. Good receivers, but
Speaker 1: five eleven, five seven, you know, six', one all under
Speaker 1: two hundred. Pounds and those, teams whether it Was Mike,
Speaker 1: evans whether it Was Laquantosaurus, rex they all seemed to
Speaker 1: have big. Bodies Alshon jeffery in twenty ten to sort
Speaker 1: of muscle already big Physical alabama corners around just a little,
Speaker 1: bit And washington just that's not how they're built at the. Moment,
Speaker 1: no it.
Speaker 2: Was it WAS i, thought as good a game As
Speaker 2: washington could have. Played. Defensively for their, part, again they
Speaker 2: did a pretty good number On Jalen hurts as a,
Speaker 2: passer just fifty seven. Yards the real, damage, though was
Speaker 2: on the. Ground you talked About Bo. Scarborough he had
Speaker 2: an incredible, game a really nice long run one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty. YARDS i think two, touchdowns two sixty. Nine
Speaker 2: as a team on the, GROUND i would expect we'd
Speaker 2: see more of. That that seems to be their preferred
Speaker 2: method of. Attack who knows what happens now is we
Speaker 2: shift play, callers which we can talk about, momentarily but
Speaker 2: you'd have to expect That clemson knows it's. Coming clemson
Speaker 2: knows that there may be a little bit of a
Speaker 2: weakness as there was With Ohio state when it comes
Speaker 2: to the passing. Game perhaps they can key on the
Speaker 2: run and Force alabama into some critical situations moving.
Speaker 1: Forward how do you feel About, Washington.
Speaker 2: Well it hurts to lose some guys. Early what is
Speaker 2: the status of them for next? Season who's, leaving who's staying.
Speaker 1: So not in a huge. Surprise so It's Buddha, Baker
Speaker 1: All american quality, Safety Sidney, jones a great lockdown, Corner
Speaker 1: Elijah qualls who is sort of half of or a
Speaker 1: third of the anchor of a very good defensive, line a,
Speaker 1: big big body, inside And John. Ross they're Also All
Speaker 1: american receiver and the big It's Vita veya is another
Speaker 1: one of their big bodies on the line that's decided
Speaker 1: to come. Back so right now the hits have mostly
Speaker 1: come on, defense But Jake browning will be back for
Speaker 1: his true junior, season and you would assume the offensive
Speaker 1: line is going to take step forward steps. Forward Miles
Speaker 1: gaskin And Levon coleman are both. Good so a lot
Speaker 1: of pieces to feel very good, about especially in a
Speaker 1: division With stanford unsettled quarterback issues and No christian, McCaffrey
Speaker 1: oregon completely overhauling. EVERYTHING i. Know Luke fowk is back For,
Speaker 1: wazoo cal is in. Perennial who's going to be the?
Speaker 1: Quarterback Does Sunny decks want to be? There. No In
Speaker 1: Oregon state improving but still a ways. Away SO i
Speaker 1: think within the context of The huskies and where they,
Speaker 1: are there's no reason to think that they can't win
Speaker 1: ten games plus next.
Speaker 2: Year and they've got a good coach who knows how
Speaker 2: to build.
Speaker 1: It they've got a very very good. COIN i think
Speaker 1: it's the.
Speaker 2: Most important aspect of. This we do need to talk
Speaker 2: About Lane kiffin. Leaving let's this news came out shortly
Speaker 2: After alabama's playoff victory trickled out over the course of the,
Speaker 2: weekend But Lane, kiffin who has Been alabama's offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: for a couple of years. Running now it was announced
Speaker 2: that he's going to be leaving for his job AT
Speaker 2: fau before The national. Championship, now they did their best
Speaker 2: to try and put a smiley face on. This, yeah
Speaker 2: my hunch is that anyone with half a brain recognizes
Speaker 2: that something clearly went down. Here, Dan do we have
Speaker 2: an inkling as to what may have gone down here
Speaker 2: to prompt?
Speaker 1: This there have been reports all over the. Place our
Speaker 1: Pal Bruce feldman mentioned that things had been particularly tense
Speaker 1: In tuscaloosa and in meetings Just lane given And Nick
Speaker 1: saban were not getting along and it just seemed like
Speaker 1: it was a lame duck situation that certain, instances we
Speaker 1: Remember Kirby smart from last, year Remember Tom herman At Ohio,
Speaker 1: state where coordinators make the move to a head, coach
Speaker 1: but stay within you, know a playoff or a national championship,
Speaker 1: situation see it. Out but it's a tight rope. Walk
Speaker 1: it's something that you need to be able to handle
Speaker 1: with you, know, life balance and grace and if there's
Speaker 1: something that we can presume either fairly or. Unfairly but you,
Speaker 1: know we've Seen Lane kiffin in public a lot in
Speaker 1: the way he's been able to handle. Himself perhaps that
Speaker 1: tightrope walk was too much and it was best for
Speaker 1: everybody to move. On and After sark was hired as an,
Speaker 1: ANALYST i think people long started speculating that he was
Speaker 1: the heir apparent as offensive, coordinator and it made sense
Speaker 1: Given Lane kiffin And Steve sarkisian as sort of mind
Speaker 1: meldy co offensive coordinators AT usc and going, BACK i,
Speaker 1: mean there was a story That sark was Texting Lane
Speaker 1: kiffin at halftime with The Michigan state playoff game last
Speaker 1: year and giving him play. Ideas so it makes sense
Speaker 1: that the transition won't be all that rocky To Steve.
Speaker 1: Sarkisian long, term we'll, see but just for The clemson,
Speaker 1: game everything sort of makes sense with what we know
Speaker 1: about the entirety of the. Situation shark's got a lot of.
Speaker 2: EXPERIENCE i think they'll be. FINE i don't expect to
Speaker 2: see that big of a difference between what we saw
Speaker 2: From alabama all year and what we're going to see Against,
Speaker 2: clemson but just an interesting development to.
Speaker 1: Follow the big thing, IS i DON'T i know that
Speaker 1: as an analyst That Steve sarkisian's responsibilities are pretty limited
Speaker 1: to just like watching films and meeting with other. Coaches
Speaker 1: like he's NOT i don't think hands on it. Practice
Speaker 1: he's definitely not a hands on. Recruiter he definitely doesn't
Speaker 1: know these kids Like Lane kiffin. Does so it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to me the type of relationship that he can
Speaker 1: forge with players is going to be sort of thrown
Speaker 1: to the fire that you, know he doesn't. Know Perhaps
Speaker 1: jalen hurts his, rhythms he doesn't, know you, Know Nick
Speaker 1: saban on game day on the same sideline or in the,
Speaker 1: booth what he likes and what he doesn't. Like So
Speaker 1: i'm curious to see how that transition goes in.
Speaker 2: Game All, right we must move on here to talk
Speaker 2: about the second playoff. Game this one was played In
Speaker 2: glendale at The Fiesta, bowl the now PlayStation Fiesta. Bowl
Speaker 2: H clemson wins by a thirty one to nothing. Score,
Speaker 2: dan who just got? Murdered wow? Wow, yeah this one
Speaker 2: to me was a true. Shocker. Dan we had two Crock,
Speaker 2: pottings for what it's, worth two Crock pottings in the
Speaker 2: playoffs this, Year, alabama which does it nearly every, game
Speaker 2: and Then clemson in such a dominant manner THAT i
Speaker 2: just think it caught everyone off. Guard over the last two.
Speaker 2: Years did you know the combined score of the second
Speaker 2: later playoff game caroed a?
Speaker 1: VENTURE i, guests is it sixty seventy one to? Nothing
Speaker 1: something like sixty nine to?
Speaker 2: Nothing alabama one now thirty eight to nothing last, Year
Speaker 2: clemson thirty one to nothing this. Year, dan listen to
Speaker 2: some of these numbers From Ohio state's. Offense this is.
Speaker 2: Crazy they had two hundred and fifteen total, yards three
Speaker 2: point eight yards per attempt through the, air just eighty
Speaker 2: eight on the, ground three, turnovers three for fourteen on third,
Speaker 2: downs and just nine first downs as a. Whole, dan
Speaker 2: talk about a dominating performance by a. Defense it was
Speaker 2: an unbelievable performance From clemson's, defense constantly harassing and Overwhelming
Speaker 2: Ohio state its offensive. Line Anytime Ohio state had the.
Speaker 2: BALL i felt as IF i were watching a magician
Speaker 2: on a stage continually screw up a trick and be, like, no, no,
Speaker 2: no let me hold, on let me try this. Again
Speaker 2: your cards an eight of? Clubs is it is this your?
Speaker 1: Car?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, hoping so let me try it. Again i'm gonna get.
Speaker 1: This let me just i gotta work this. Out that's
Speaker 1: what it felt like Watching Ohio state's. Offense AND i
Speaker 1: felt really bad FOR. Jt. BARRETT i felt really bad
Speaker 1: for a ton of talent on The Ohio state offensive
Speaker 1: side of the. Ball but it just wasn't. There it
Speaker 1: just was not. Happening and we've seen and it Was
Speaker 1: Ohio state WHO i was talking about earlier WHEN i
Speaker 1: was saying like how. MUCH i, mean you were very
Speaker 1: big on The Big ten heading into. Bowlseason and even
Speaker 1: THOUGH i don't think either one of us fully believe
Speaker 1: that bowl records are a mandate on conference, STRENGTH i
Speaker 1: think we can start looking at The Big ten season
Speaker 1: with you, know a slightly different lens, that, oh maybe
Speaker 1: the bottom of The Big ten is just that atrocious
Speaker 1: that it sort of, masks sort of seasons some of
Speaker 1: the problems with the top of The Big. Ten and
Speaker 1: we can talk About michigan And Florida state, soon and
Speaker 1: Certainly Penn state held up hits end of the, bargain
Speaker 1: but it was ugly and we had seen it FROM. J.
Speaker 1: T barrett these past few. Weeks and you, Know clemson
Speaker 1: weathering the turnovers they weather, turnovers and that's a. Talent
Speaker 1: THAT'S i Think alabama's the only other team that can
Speaker 1: do it like they do because they throw what you,
Speaker 1: have two, Picks, Yeah Deshaun watson has two, picks and
Speaker 1: for whatever, Reason Dabo swinny and that staff and both
Speaker 1: sides of the, ball there's something like fourteen and one
Speaker 1: when they have two. Turnovers so they're able to weather that.
Speaker 1: Storm we'll see what happens in The National championship. Game
Speaker 1: BUT i, think, yeah the story was The clemson defense
Speaker 1: And Deshaun watson not getting it all down on himself
Speaker 1: and making huge plays both with his arm and with his.
Speaker 2: LEGS a really balanced attack From. Clemson. Two, yeah which
Speaker 2: was nice to. See you Mentioned Deshaun. Watson he needs
Speaker 2: to cut down on the. Picks he does, well one
Speaker 2: of them was a.
Speaker 1: Slip was a?
Speaker 2: Slip, okay that's. Fine he needs to cut down the
Speaker 2: picks if he wants to Beat. Alabama this is not
Speaker 2: An alabama team that you can just give the ball.
Speaker 2: To Correct, now you mentioned the fourteen to one, record that's.
Speaker 2: Notable he's going to be going against a much better
Speaker 2: defense here in the form Of. ALABAMA i would would
Speaker 2: you much.
Speaker 1: Better Ohio state has a really really good.
Speaker 2: DEFENSE i mean they gave up thirty one points To. Clemson,
Speaker 2: well they.
Speaker 1: Gave up thirty one points with their offense just giving
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: AWAY i will Take alabama ten times out of. Ten
Speaker 2: Ohio states defense has been great all. Year, Yeah i'm still.
Speaker 1: That's the shame of. Everything, yeah that's. FINE i just
Speaker 1: don't THINK i, Mean alabama's defense is, great BUT i
Speaker 1: think it's fair to Say Ohio state's defense is also
Speaker 1: great all things, considered with the turnover and also just
Speaker 1: the results that they've gotten this. Year but Man Wayne
Speaker 1: galman was decent enough broke loose a couple of. Times
Speaker 1: Deshaun watson had had a couple huge. Runs Mike williams
Speaker 1: is a big difference, maker and we talked about the
Speaker 1: types of quarterbacks that Beat alabama with what they, need
Speaker 1: big physical. Receivers Mike williams can be very easily classified. That,
Speaker 1: yeah and don't forget About Hunter renfro who's not. Big
Speaker 1: But noelpe was able to slip in and make a
Speaker 1: bunch of big. Plays between him And Mike, williams they
Speaker 1: combined for eleven catches in about one hundred and fifty,
Speaker 1: Yards so a good effort across the board For. Clemson,
Speaker 1: obviously the score dictates.
Speaker 2: That i'm with. YOU i think their success now moving
Speaker 2: forward into a rematch of last Year's National championship, game
Speaker 2: hinges almost entirely on What Deshaun watson is able to
Speaker 2: produce on his. Own to what end can he will
Speaker 2: this team to.
Speaker 1: Victory, yeah and the other name we didn't, mention WHICH
Speaker 1: i think will be a bigger name in The National
Speaker 1: championship game Is Jordan. Leggett didn't was pretty. QUIET i
Speaker 1: think he only had a single, catch BUT i imagine he
Speaker 1: will be a big target Against alabama And Curtis samuel
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards rushing with a long of sixty. Four,
Speaker 1: yeah five carries for three. Yards outside of, That clemson's
Speaker 1: defense had over the course of the season gotten sort
Speaker 1: of tired and lapsed in fourth. Quarters they didn't know
Speaker 1: such thing in this new.
Speaker 2: Game, No, actually all the DEFENSES i thought looked pretty. Refreshed,
Speaker 2: yeah even despite the fact That clemson put thirty one
Speaker 2: On Ohio. STATE i thought all these defenses played, fast played.
Speaker 2: Angry it just Wasn't Ohio state's.
Speaker 1: Evening you saw that by the way you saw That
Speaker 1: Malik hooker. Interception, oh he's.
Speaker 2: Great you KNOW i was talking About Malik hooker.
Speaker 1: BACK i know you, were you were a boy day
Speaker 1: in early AND i JUST i want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you see such things because he's special and that
Speaker 1: is the end of His Ohio state career And i'm
Speaker 1: sure he will make AN nfl team very.
Speaker 2: Happy so there you have. It It's alabama Against. Clemson
Speaker 2: the game is going to be On monday, Evening january.
Speaker 2: Ninth mm. Hmm alabama's about a six and a half point.
Speaker 2: Favorite we're going to do our preview of that game
Speaker 2: On friday evening after you AND i. Arrive my initial
Speaker 2: take here is That i've been all in On alabama all.
Speaker 2: Year there's been no reason to really doubt THAT i.
Speaker 2: DO i have a little bit of doubt creeping in
Speaker 2: now because of what we saw From Jalen hurts and
Speaker 2: also because of something you mentioned With Steve sarkisian taking.
Speaker 2: Over to what degree will he just know the beats
Speaker 2: of the? Team? Yeah that to, ME i THINK i
Speaker 2: Think warren's MENTIONING i could see myself flipping a pick for. That,
Speaker 2: ULTIMATELY i. WON'T i have a ton of confidence In Deshaun.
Speaker 2: WATSON i still Think alabama is the better. Team if
Speaker 2: any team can pull the upset, here It's. Clemson they're
Speaker 2: constructed in a manner THAT i think makes it.
Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i think you're, right and we'll get into this
Speaker 1: much more when we preview the game in more. Depth
Speaker 1: But i'm curious if This alabama team Is. Listen they're definitely,
Speaker 1: Great they're definitely one hundred percent. Great But i'm curious
Speaker 1: because it seems like they're not quite as deep defensively
Speaker 1: as they were last, year and as much of a
Speaker 1: fine quality but nothing special quality As Jake kocher. Was
Speaker 1: he was a, senior he was, experienced he was what
Speaker 1: twenty two years? Old Jalen hurts is, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen
Speaker 1: whatever he, is and in his first full. Season i'm
Speaker 1: curious if there's a number of factors that maybe didn't
Speaker 1: over inflate but Inflated alabama's worth a little. Bit i'm
Speaker 1: not crazy about the quarterbacks they faced this. Year Chad
Speaker 1: kelly was the clear best quarterback they, played, right agreed
Speaker 1: when YOU i Mean Jake browning accomplished a, ton but
Speaker 1: within the sec, specifically during the regular, Season Chad kelly
Speaker 1: is the clear number, one and outside of, that it's
Speaker 1: NOT i, mean It's Stephen, johnson it's Who Brandon, allen excuse,
Speaker 1: Me Austin, Allen It's Trevor, knight S Danny, Etling Nack,
Speaker 1: Starld Josh, Dobbs austin appleby the mix At, auburn, like
Speaker 1: there just hasn't been Since Chad kelly put whatever forty
Speaker 1: plus On. Alabama there hasn't been that. Guy And Deshaun
Speaker 1: watson is like four steps up from any of, those
Speaker 1: any of those guys right now with the way he's.
Speaker 1: Playing So I'M i just am wondering if there's a
Speaker 1: very very very very very HEIGHTENED lro situation With. ALABAMA i.
Speaker 1: WONDER i don't, Know we'll, say not a, take just.
Speaker 2: Curiosity, Well i'm sure by the end of the weekend
Speaker 2: both of us will have talked to ourselves somehow Into. Clemson,
Speaker 2: absolutely that's just the way these things.
Speaker 1: Go do you remember when we were, like, listen Notre
Speaker 1: dames front to get you Against, Alabama LIKE i you
Speaker 1: know That Bob Diaco DEEF.
Speaker 2: I cantort it myself into that. Argument DAN i backed
Speaker 2: myself into an incredible, corner not even BECAUSE i believed,
Speaker 2: it but just BECAUSE i heard so many other folks
Speaker 2: down there at the media hotel talking about. It, YEAH
Speaker 2: i don't, know we'll. See it will be an intriguing.
Speaker 2: Matchup it's a great. Rematch Deshaun watson's fun to, watch
Speaker 2: and now Obviously alabama has been great all, year so
Speaker 2: we'll we'll see which direction that game. Goes much much
Speaker 2: more to come on, that so do stay tuned here
Speaker 2: to our podcast Feet, Yeah, dan we got a bunch
Speaker 2: of other games to discuss here.
Speaker 1: Too, yeah it's just a three hour. Show people are
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Speaker 1: DAN i guess we should go To New year six.
Speaker 1: Games let's go to The Rose bowl because a lot
Speaker 1: of people are saying it. Was, yeah it was the
Speaker 1: best game of the, season AND i can't find a
Speaker 1: compelling argument to say it was.
Speaker 2: Not your final score fifty two to forty, nine just
Speaker 2: an unbelievably fun, game the most points ever scored in
Speaker 2: A Rose, BOWL a ton of, offense a ton of.
Speaker 2: Records Saquon barkley in a losing, Effort, yeah had three
Speaker 2: hundred and six in all purpose yardage and three. Touchdowns
Speaker 2: Sam donald, though was really he was the, guy wasn't?
Speaker 1: He he absolutely was and wasn't doing a ton trace
Speaker 1: mcsoli was the one hitting. Downfield Sam donald was an efficiency.
Speaker 1: Play he threw the ball fifty. Times he didn't get
Speaker 1: to ten yards per attempt or anything like, that so
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing the ball. Successfully downfield a, ton but
Speaker 1: it was slants and short. Stuff it was him extending,
Speaker 1: plays being very good on third. Down and then the
Speaker 1: at the end of the game over the middle was
Speaker 1: just it was. Call it should be in a, museum
Speaker 1: it should be, worshiped it should be, buried and let
Speaker 1: the aliens see at five thousand years from now to
Speaker 1: see what college football. Is it was everything perfect about.
Speaker 1: Athletics So Sam donald had the hell of a. Game
Speaker 1: Penn state was able to hold DOWN usc on the,
Speaker 1: ground which was an impressive thing considering the talent that
Speaker 1: THAT usc. Has but, Yeah Deontay burnett And Juju Smith
Speaker 1: schuster both just ran wild Behind Penn state. Secondary and
Speaker 1: on that same, Note Chris, Godwin, yeah my, goodness my,
Speaker 1: Goodness Saklon barkley had a big. Game BUT i think
Speaker 1: that was the big national coming out party For Chris.
Speaker 2: Godwin let's go back To Sam donald for a. Second,
Speaker 2: yeah it's of. Note so we had four fifty three,
Speaker 2: passing five, touchdowns one, pick in total yardage four seventy.
Speaker 2: Three din that Break young's record from that EPIC usc
Speaker 2: loss back in what two thousand and, six The national
Speaker 2: championship game in The Rose, bowl he broke that record
Speaker 2: stupid four to seventy three total. Yardage Penn state lost
Speaker 2: a turnover battle.
Speaker 1: They did, early Especially, yeah.
Speaker 2: Had a bit of a rocky. Go they lost a
Speaker 2: turnover battle four to. One even if they get one
Speaker 2: of those, back maybe it's a different. GAME i. Thought
Speaker 2: Penn state acquitted itself.
Speaker 1: Well Penn state acquitted itself very.
Speaker 2: Well AS i said in the, PREVIEW i was a
Speaker 2: little bit worried that there was a one trick pony
Speaker 2: thing going on. Here you, know they liked to throw.
Speaker 2: Deep they liked the big. Play you live by the,
Speaker 2: sword you die by the. Sword M i thought we
Speaker 2: saw both sides of that in the. Game you, know
Speaker 2: we saw the failure of being high, risk high reward
Speaker 2: on literally every. Play we also saw the rewards of
Speaker 2: doing that as. Well trace, McSorley he's an exciting player to.
Speaker 2: Watch in the, end it was the pop gun arm
Speaker 2: that kind of got. Him it kind of, well yes and,
Speaker 2: no it kind of got him at the end, There.
Speaker 1: Yes, no it definitely got him at the. End he you,
Speaker 1: know you've been saying this all season. Long he perhaps
Speaker 1: thinks his arm is stronger than it actually, Is but
Speaker 1: that arm got them into this. Position to begin, With
Speaker 1: Penn state has seven straight drives with touchdowns starting AT
Speaker 1: i think the end of the first, quarter heading into
Speaker 1: THE i guess the end of the third. Quarter seven
Speaker 1: straight drives with, touchdowns including three one play, touchdowns AND
Speaker 1: i you, know everybody should be Following Bill connolly if
Speaker 1: they're not. Already but you know what he noted was
Speaker 1: they're not the most efficient team in terms of putting
Speaker 1: together drives going eighty one yards and ending with, six
Speaker 1: but they are insanely explosive and consistently, explosive so they're
Speaker 1: almost efficient in their, explosion whatever that could possibly. Mean
Speaker 1: the big difference to me is when those explosive plays stop.
Speaker 1: Happening it seemed like they. Weren't Penn state's fourth quarter
Speaker 1: fumble on a negative one yard, drive punch on a
Speaker 1: two yard, drive punt on a ten yard, drive interception
Speaker 1: on a one yard total, drive AND i Again Bill
Speaker 1: connolly's success right, metric it was like something like seventy two,
Speaker 1: percent sixty five, percent fifty nine percent for the first
Speaker 1: three quarters and then seven percent From Penn state in
Speaker 1: the fourth. Quarter and it's something we've seen from a
Speaker 1: bunch of other teams that have been, really really good
Speaker 1: that just they just run out of gas for whatever
Speaker 1: reason late and it's just it's a tough spot to do.
Speaker 1: It hell of a game From Penn, state but they
Speaker 1: had three quarters in. Them that wasn't.
Speaker 2: Enough and all due credit to both these. Teams, yeah
Speaker 2: by the, WAY i mean both teams finished the year
Speaker 2: with what ten. Wins not bad either. WAY a lot
Speaker 2: of weird calls in this game, Too, yeah which bears.
Speaker 2: Mentioning we had a video review which overturned a pass interference,
Speaker 2: call Which i've never seen.
Speaker 1: Before very. Strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah we had a phantom personal foul Call entres McSorley
Speaker 2: as he was. Sliding we had a bunch of other.
Speaker 1: Like do be mean it was it was? Targeting, yeah
Speaker 1: we had the target that was.
Speaker 2: Targeting i'm fine with the, TIME i think. So, Yeah
Speaker 2: BUT i mean just tight wire axe along the. Sidelines,
Speaker 2: really everything that college football had to, offer maybe with
Speaker 2: the exception of, defense this game brought to the.
Speaker 1: Four, yeah but EVEN i mean there were force, turnovers
Speaker 1: there were big stops from both. Teams leon McQuay eventually
Speaker 1: gets the pick after dropping a pick at the end
Speaker 1: of the. Game the big bummer to, me and we
Speaker 1: shouldn't gloss over. This Dorri jackson has been a spectacular
Speaker 1: college football player and bump to see him go down
Speaker 1: with an injury that that was a. Bummer AND i
Speaker 1: know their other, Cornerback Biggie, marshall left the game at,
Speaker 1: halftime came back for a little while with, vertigo so
Speaker 1: we hope he's all. Right but, yes You're you're absolutely
Speaker 1: right the best of what college for football had to.
Speaker 1: Offer what is, It Mike gasicki with the ridiculous diving
Speaker 1: catch in the end. Zone just a really good year
Speaker 1: for tight, ends surprisingly across college. Football so fun to see.
Speaker 2: That and both these teams should be pretty well set
Speaker 2: for next season.
Speaker 1: Too, YEAH i could SEE usc very that hype. Train.
Speaker 1: TIE i don't know if you, have but that hype.
Speaker 1: Train we're shoveling coal right. Now they'll be a top five,
Speaker 1: team almost assuredly with the return Of Sam darnold And Penn.
Speaker 1: State it's pretty easy to see with how young they still.
Speaker 1: Are top, ten top, ten the easily. TOP i would
Speaker 1: imagine they'll be top. Ten so you have a top
Speaker 1: ten team to root for next, Year, Tie, YEAH i
Speaker 1: got at least One dan and that ain't, bad, right
Speaker 1: not bad at? All moving on to The Capital One Orange,
Speaker 1: Bowl let's do. That this is another great game.
Speaker 2: From top to. Bottom it wasn't as great as The Rose.
Speaker 2: Bowl this one heated up, late but still a, really
Speaker 2: really good. Matchup Florida state wins thirty three to thirty
Speaker 2: two over The wolverines Of. Michigan Jabill peppers didn't play
Speaker 2: in this. Game, no it was due to a hamstring.
Speaker 2: Injury there was some speculation is This christian McCaffrey Or
Speaker 2: Leonard fournette te type of. Thing he explained as much
Speaker 2: to the. Media he was very emotional about. It clearly
Speaker 2: that was not the case. Here he wanted to, play he,
Speaker 2: practiced he was ready to. Play he just wanted like
Speaker 2: one more, day one more.
Speaker 1: Day was heart, Broken yet.
Speaker 2: One more day might have made the world of. Difference
Speaker 2: AND i just wonder what effect that had on The michigan.
Speaker 2: Defense if You're Doc, brown your defensive game plan For
Speaker 2: Florida state has to revolve a lot around what you
Speaker 2: can do With Jabrill. Peppers you can move them all
Speaker 2: over the. Field he can play, corner he can play a,
Speaker 2: linebacker he can play. Safety you can do so many
Speaker 2: different things with the player of that. Caliber to not
Speaker 2: have him in the lineup was a pretty big blow
Speaker 2: right from the get.
Speaker 1: Go, yeah and Certainly michigan can count on his. Versatility
Speaker 1: but Also Jabrill peppers doesn't really throw the ball all
Speaker 1: that much when he gets in as A wildcat, quarterback
Speaker 1: so there WERE i think the issues For michigan were
Speaker 1: largely offensive because they did a great job mostly Against
Speaker 1: Florida state through the. Air DeAndre francois finishes nine of twenty,
Speaker 1: seven so they keep the passing game down. Mostly Dalvin,
Speaker 1: COOK i, know had a couple of really big, runs
Speaker 1: but all things, considered could have been, worse could have
Speaker 1: been Worse Aalvin. COOK i, mean he put up a
Speaker 1: ton of yardage and he rushed for seven yards of.
Speaker 1: Carry BUT i think they did a pretty nice, job
Speaker 1: especially in the back half of the game containing The
Speaker 1: Florida state. Offense it was just, listen what is it?
Speaker 1: Now two summers. AGO i, Mean michigan's offensive line didn't
Speaker 1: like me BECAUSE i made fun of them or something
Speaker 1: in an offhanded. Way it was not a good way
Speaker 1: for this Upperclassman leyden unit to finish out their. Season
Speaker 1: they got smoked in this. Game And, tye this is
Speaker 1: with all due respect To Steve. Dazzio, Yeah i've got
Speaker 1: a dude. Alert. Yeah DeMarcus, Walker, YEAH i, know. Spicy
Speaker 1: DeMarcus walker was just ridiculous in this. Game And Wilton
Speaker 1: spade is probably still seeing him in his. Dreams so, Uh, Michigan,
Speaker 1: yeah finishes the season in a disappointing. Way they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot younger next. YEAR i imagine the quarterback
Speaker 1: race will be pretty. Open they've got some young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: THERE i Know john o'corn is. Back Shane morris announced
Speaker 1: that he is going to transfer as a, graduate so
Speaker 1: he'll be eligible immediately wherever he ends. Up and there's
Speaker 1: a ton of. Talent An, Arbor Florida state perhaps has
Speaker 1: even more. Talent and they were dealing WITH i know
Speaker 1: you mentioned The Jabrill peppers, injury but they dealt with
Speaker 1: so much in the way of, injury including their best
Speaker 1: defensive player In Derwin. James also a. Dude but we
Speaker 1: don't need to go on the do it. Alert but,
Speaker 1: yeah also. Disappointing AND i pointed this Out michigan and
Speaker 1: the two teams That michigan lost to during the, season
Speaker 1: Not Florida, state but during the actual season combined to
Speaker 1: score how many touchdowns in the? POST i believe that be, Zero,
Speaker 1: dan that would be zero points, Zero so not the
Speaker 1: greatest reflection at this.
Speaker 2: Point, yeah let's go back To Florida state's defensive that
Speaker 2: f please you mentioned the defensive. Front they were superior
Speaker 2: in this. Game listen to these. Numbers four. SACKS i
Speaker 2: don't even have numbers for how much pressure they. GENERATED
Speaker 2: i know there were fifteen tackles for loss allowed just
Speaker 2: eighty nine yards on the ground about two and a
Speaker 2: half per. Carry also played really well in the. Secondary
Speaker 2: trailed off a little bit After Trey marshall got bounced
Speaker 2: for the, targeting but still a pretty good effort across the.
Speaker 2: Board and that's notable to me Because michigan's strength as
Speaker 2: an offensive unit was what they were able to do
Speaker 2: on the ground for most of the. Year Wilton, spate
Speaker 2: he was okay for most of the, year just, efficient
Speaker 2: pretty good as a game, manager hit some long plays
Speaker 2: when they needed, to but ultimately this was a team
Speaker 2: that liked to run the football and they just weren't
Speaker 2: able to do. That and when they dropped back to
Speaker 2: pass people were hanging Off wilton.
Speaker 1: Space they were somewhat efficient against the better teams on their.
Speaker 1: SCHEDULE i looked this up Because Jed, Fish michigan's quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and receivers, coach is now the offensive coordinator AT. Ucla
Speaker 1: or at least it was. ANNOUNCED i don't know if
Speaker 1: everything is. Official michigan AGAINST fbs winning teams had like
Speaker 1: the one hundred and first most efficient quarterback rating in
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fourteenth yards per, Attempt so they
Speaker 1: really struggled through the air against the better teams they.
Speaker 1: Played so they're going to need to take a major
Speaker 1: step forward next. Year whoever the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Is also of. Note Jake butt tore his acl oh hated.
Speaker 2: This this was tough to. WATCH i felt real bad for. Him. Early, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Early he's a GREAT nfl. Prospect he's been a, mainstay
Speaker 2: so we wish him the. Best, yeah just a sad
Speaker 2: thing to.
Speaker 1: See, YEAH i hope he recovers fully makes a quadrillion
Speaker 1: dollars in THE.
Speaker 2: Nfl let's go to The Cotton bowl. Next let's do
Speaker 2: that goodyear Conton Bowl wisconsin twenty, Four Western michigan. Sixteen you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i wasn't surprised by the result of this. GAME
Speaker 2: i was surprised By Western michigan's ability to adjust because
Speaker 2: early On wisconsin look they looked like they were going
Speaker 2: to run through them like a hot knife through. BUTTER
Speaker 2: i THINK i even tweeted it out dead and they
Speaker 2: were able to run as a. Team they had one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty four, yards but it wasn't the kind
Speaker 2: of dominant power rushing effort THAT i. Expected Corey klement
Speaker 2: got off to a really good. Start if you're watched
Speaker 2: in the first quarter and like a quarter and a,
Speaker 2: HALF i guess it looked like he might run for
Speaker 2: two hundred, yards but he finished with just seventy one
Speaker 2: average three and a half per, carry which was. Okay
Speaker 2: wisconsin got up, Early Western michigan found a way to scrape.
Speaker 2: Back it was never a runaway. Train, ULTIMATELY i think
Speaker 2: it comes down To wisconsin playing better defense and finding
Speaker 2: a matchup In troy From magali that they were able to.
Speaker 2: Exploit here talk about A doode, Alert, ty talk about
Speaker 2: A doode. Alert it was not a situation, though Where
Speaker 2: Western michigan got blown off the. Field they were very
Speaker 2: competitive in this.
Speaker 1: Game, yeah and somewhat fortunate to recover a number of.
Speaker 1: Fumbles they have the backbreaking interception late which sealed it For.
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and you know, what good For Bart houston and you,
Speaker 1: know he came in pretty touted and started season and
Speaker 1: has gotten into the, mix and he had an incredibly
Speaker 1: efficient day obviously partially and thanks To Troy. Fumagali JAZZ
Speaker 1: pv had a nice. Day Corey clement end of his,
Speaker 1: career had a very nice career In Madison JAZZ pv
Speaker 1: with you know they're gonna run fly sweeps With JAZZ.
Speaker 1: Pv that's just a. Reality but, yeah the story Is
Speaker 1: Western michigan, hanging you, know Finding Corey davis at key,
Speaker 1: moments pushing the pile forward on. Offense you, know it
Speaker 1: was it was a really nice year for For. Western
Speaker 1: i'm curious now That minnesota's open, tie are we going
Speaker 1: to See gophers in a? Boat gophers in a? Boat i'm.
Speaker 1: CURIOUS i, hope you, know for the sake Of western
Speaker 1: THAT pj flex sticks around for another. Year but good
Speaker 1: for good For western's performance in The Cotton, bowl it
Speaker 1: was A it was a decent enough, game.
Speaker 2: WAS i the only one kind of annoyed WITH. Pj.
Speaker 1: Fleck are his antics getting under your? Skin?
Speaker 2: Tie they are getting under my skin a little. Bit.
Speaker 1: Ah he's.
Speaker 2: Fun he's a fun guy to. Watch he's obviously built
Speaker 2: some thing At Western. Michigan. Yeah i'm not Like Debbie.
Speaker 2: DOWNER i like myself a good chuckle when it comes
Speaker 2: to college.
Speaker 1: Football but there are.
Speaker 2: Just something about.
Speaker 1: Him everybody knows this about, You, ty you love a good.
Speaker 2: Chuckle something about HIM i found rather annoying and sort
Speaker 2: of obnoxious.
Speaker 1: Here all, Right i'm sorry to hear.
Speaker 2: THAT i wasn't rooting against. HIM i just that was my.
Speaker 2: TAKEAWAY i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, okay, anyway he's all cheese, ball But i've made
Speaker 1: peace with.
Speaker 2: It he's a good. Coach he's a good. Coach we'll
Speaker 2: see if he takes another. Gig, yeah that would be
Speaker 2: a cool For. Minnesota but, okay sugar ball all. Staged Sugar.
Speaker 2: Bowl we Had oklahoma thirty Five auburn. Nineteen DID i
Speaker 2: see That Seawan white broke his arm and played through? It?
Speaker 1: Yeah another game with the coaches playing a clearly Injured Sean.
Speaker 1: WHITE a little, strange but yes he. Did He the
Speaker 1: toughness cannot be questioned.
Speaker 2: This one was a second half runaway train For. Oklahoma
Speaker 2: they got things. Going it was pretty much all. Over
Speaker 2: the final score makes this one walk closer than it actually,
Speaker 2: was because they scored like literally a garbage time touchdown
Speaker 2: and garbage time touchdowns at the gun that gave them
Speaker 2: the nineteen. Points but until that point it was what
Speaker 2: thirty five thirteen something like.
Speaker 1: That, yeah it. Was it was not really all that
Speaker 1: close for the majority of the, game and also not
Speaker 1: the best game For Brett. Musburger, no not the. Best
Speaker 1: it's okay to say perhaps not super positive things about
Speaker 1: somebody who punched a woman in the face point. Blank
Speaker 1: it's okay to not, say you, know you hope he
Speaker 1: succeeds later, On, like it's okay to just sort of
Speaker 1: take things at face value and move forward and just
Speaker 1: sort of explain things and you, know have a slightly
Speaker 1: disappointed tone to your. Speech it's okay not to like
Speaker 1: be full on and, LISTEN i think we both really
Speaker 1: Like Brent musburger And Jesse palmer. Totally, yeah but you're watching,
Speaker 1: that you're, like, man they're just weirdly pring this and
Speaker 1: it just feels. Strange it's it's completely.
Speaker 2: Unnecessary there was a weird slurping going on there, that,
Speaker 2: YEAH i wasn't entirely comfortable. With but, yeah they're not
Speaker 2: saying he should be thrown to the pits of. Hell
Speaker 2: but you, know just it lacked a lot of. TACT i,
Speaker 2: thought all, right where are we going next? Year, Citril
Speaker 2: let's Go Citrus. Bowl let's do. THAT lsu twenty, Nine louieville.
Speaker 1: Nine, yeah it wasn't even that.
Speaker 2: Close, no it really. Wasn't Lamar jackson held in check
Speaker 2: ten of twenty seven for one fifty seven through the. Air,
Speaker 2: yeah twenty six carries thirty three yards on the. GROUND
Speaker 2: i hate to say, it AND i feel dirty saying.
Speaker 2: It the better quarterback in this game Was Danny, Etling
Speaker 2: And i'm not saying he's the better quarterback as a,
Speaker 2: whole and he didn't have to be for very long
Speaker 2: in this, game thank. You, yeah in this, game he
Speaker 2: was the better. Quarterback the better running back Was Darius,
Speaker 2: geist the better receiver Was malachai Dupri the better defense
Speaker 2: WAS Ls. Hughes that's why they won only three field
Speaker 2: goals For. Louisville this was sort of a crock potting.
Speaker 2: TOO i, think, yeah it was LSU's defense was dominant
Speaker 2: in this. Game that's why they won by.
Speaker 1: Twenty, Yeah Arden key was, great predictably and another dude
Speaker 1: alert For ard And. Key But louisville just finishing the
Speaker 1: season in the most underwhelming. Way and it's hard to
Speaker 1: say anybody fully deserved The heisman Over Lamar jackson because
Speaker 1: at his peak he was better than any other at
Speaker 1: least offensive. Player but, man His, november His, december, whatever just.
Speaker 1: Underwhelming and it's sad to. See maybe it was on the.
Speaker 1: Coaches Maybe Lamar jackson just sort of hit a. Wall but,
Speaker 1: YEAH lsu came to Play Darius. Geist you see him
Speaker 1: level The louisville. Kicker, yeah somebody tweeted OUT i forget
Speaker 1: who was, like, oh The louisville kicker is Now and
Speaker 1: then The louisville kicker retweeted and, said, NO i am.
Speaker 1: Alive but you know, What i'm glad we have. CONFIRMATION
Speaker 1: i did not want The louisville kicker to die AND
Speaker 1: lsu AND i look this. UP lsu this season their
Speaker 1: defense and stars at every. Level their red zone defense
Speaker 1: held THOSE fbs winning record teams to a touchdown percentage
Speaker 1: in the red zone of sixteen point six. Percent sixteen
Speaker 1: point six percent of opponents WITH fbs winning records scored
Speaker 1: touchdowns when they got into the red zone AGAINST, lsu
Speaker 1: the only other team under forty percent Was Ohio state
Speaker 1: at thirty eight point seven. Percent that's a pretty big. Jump,
Speaker 1: yeah and no team in like the last eight. YEARS
Speaker 1: i use cfbstats Dot com a great resource if you
Speaker 1: haven't checked it out for some of these. Numbers no
Speaker 1: TEAM i think has ever been under twenty or has
Speaker 1: been under twenty percent since two thousand and. Eight, like
Speaker 1: it's it's absurd how high of a just brick WALL
Speaker 1: lsu puts up at the goal.
Speaker 2: Line, well it showed here just three field goals For.
Speaker 2: Louisville louisville was a high scoring offense all year and
Speaker 2: obviously had The Heisman trovy. Winner they weren't able to
Speaker 2: do much. Here they lost by twenty out back Ball florida,
Speaker 2: Thirty iowa. Three, yeah this was not a fun game to.
Speaker 1: Watch it was not a fun game at.
Speaker 2: All we predicted. That we predicted. That in, fairness, yeah
Speaker 2: we knew it was going to be this kind of.
Speaker 2: Game but three to three after the first, quarter Then
Speaker 2: florida jumps in front on a long touchdown pass before,
Speaker 2: half and then it was pretty much all The florida.
Speaker 2: Defense iowa just could not get anything moving. WHATSOEVER. Cj
Speaker 2: bethard was ineffective through the, air which wasn't a huge,
Speaker 2: surprise but it was good to See florida finishing out
Speaker 2: a good team Like. Iowa not a great, team but
Speaker 2: a good team Like. IOWA a lot of big players For.
Speaker 2: Florida their defense is also crazy beat.
Speaker 1: UP. Cj bethard just could not find anybody in the
Speaker 1: past the. Game acromwildely could not do it. Himself he
Speaker 1: had a nice day Against, florida but the turnovers and
Speaker 1: the pick, six, actly it's just you can't too, much,
Speaker 1: yo you gotta be a little bit better than. That
Speaker 1: offensively In iowa just such a down. Day and it's
Speaker 1: not like they were PARTICULARLY i don't think they committed
Speaker 1: a ton of. Penalties they just It's Greg. Davis it's
Speaker 1: when that offense is, bad it's.
Speaker 2: Bad The Hyundai Sun, Bowl Dan, Yes stanford twenty, FIVE
Speaker 2: unc twenty, Three christian who.
Speaker 1: Not. Quite it's more Like solomon who is, yeah great at.
Speaker 1: Football Bryce love had a pretty good. Game, Yeah stanford's
Speaker 1: offense wasn't particularly. Good No, STANFORD i, mean they couldn't
Speaker 1: really move the ball through the. Air the defense won this.
Speaker 1: GAME i know they had to pick six late to
Speaker 1: sort of cap this. Game North carolina had a chance
Speaker 1: at the end of the, game But Solomon thomas sort
Speaker 1: of showed why he is An All american caliber. Player
Speaker 1: he was. RIDICULOUS i think what he Sacks Mitch trubisky
Speaker 1: at the, end and.
Speaker 2: They couldn't, stop and they couldn't block the ball.
Speaker 1: Game he was completely. Unblockable sad to, SAY i Think
Speaker 1: Keller chris went down with a torn.
Speaker 2: Acl, yeah that was.
Speaker 1: Sad that was sad to. See Mitch trubisky threw some.
Speaker 1: Dimes But North carolina's defense just, actually you know, WHAT
Speaker 1: i was about to say something bad About North carolina's,
Speaker 1: Defense they actually played pretty. Well they're a little bit
Speaker 1: healthier than they've been most of this, season and it
Speaker 1: was not nearly as much on the defense as it
Speaker 1: could have. Been they only gave up what seventeen eighteen
Speaker 1: points To stanford's. Offense it was a nice day For
Speaker 1: North carolina and they put the Tar heels in position
Speaker 1: to win this. Game the offense just couldn't get it.
Speaker 1: Done way too.
Speaker 2: Streaky And Mitch TRUBISKY i thought looked good when he
Speaker 2: had he didn't get a lot of, help he was,
Speaker 2: fine BUT i thought his ability to deal with pressure
Speaker 2: down the stretch to come back and nearly tie the
Speaker 2: game was really. Admirable he threw some really nice passes
Speaker 2: in this, game even if the stats don't fully reflect.
Speaker 2: IT i don't know if he's the first overall pick
Speaker 2: in the. Draft, well my hunch is. No right AS
Speaker 2: i said a couple of weeks, ago but if someone
Speaker 2: uses a mid to late first round pick On Mitch,
Speaker 2: TRUBISKY i think that would be. Understandable at this, Point
Speaker 2: he's a, guy he's got a lot of. Potential i'm
Speaker 2: not sure he's fully there. YET i don't think he's
Speaker 2: a finished, product but clearly he's got the arm talent
Speaker 2: to succeed at the next.
Speaker 1: Level i'm willing to be impressed with, him but not
Speaker 1: be super impressed with them as a first ROUND nfl.
Speaker 2: Quarterback, no, okay The Franklin American Mortgage Music City, Bowl, Tennisportidge,
Speaker 2: yes thank you got to pronounce that Tea tennessee thirty
Speaker 2: Eight nebraska twenty Four Dan Tommy Armstrong junior did not,
Speaker 2: play SO i did switch my pick To.
Speaker 1: TENNESSEE i THINK i did a very good job of
Speaker 1: talking you Into tennessee in this. Game you.
Speaker 2: Did thank. YOU i appreciate, that AND i beat you
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 1: Bullpool maybe Because hell, Team yeah it's entirely, possible but,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean my whole justification was one of these
Speaker 1: teams has lost a game sixty two to. Three let's
Speaker 1: not pick that.
Speaker 2: Team Riiker fife got the, Start, dan he was Decidedly riker.
Speaker 1: Fighting, yeah better THAN i.
Speaker 2: Expected seventeen to thirty, six two forty three to two. Touchdowns,
Speaker 2: yeah it could have been, worse just not enough to
Speaker 2: get it. Done Once Josh dobbs got going because this
Speaker 2: game belonged to him his final game two ninety one
Speaker 2: in a touch through the, air one eighteen on the
Speaker 2: ground in three. Touchdowns he really took this game over
Speaker 2: in a big way and that's Why tennessee.
Speaker 1: Won, yeah disappointing game For nebraska's offensive. Line Derek barnett
Speaker 1: just completely wreaked, havoc which is not a. Surprise also a,
Speaker 1: dude And tennessee could against a team that is not
Speaker 1: really really really good in THE. Sec tennessee's offense will
Speaker 1: move the. Ball tennessee's, OFFENSE i, mean Especially Josh dobbs
Speaker 1: has had a great second half of the, season quietly
Speaker 1: because of all of the hype fading early on in the.
Speaker 1: Season But nebraska really has come down from sort of
Speaker 1: a perception early. On, No Tommy armstrong certainly hurts. That,
Speaker 1: defensively they were pushed around constantly in their offensive line
Speaker 1: was just atrocious against This tennessee. Front So, NEBRASKA i
Speaker 1: think they're recruiting really. WELL i haven't paid too much,
Speaker 1: attention But i've my high school is like giving them
Speaker 1: like three good players. Apparently so it's a feeder system,
Speaker 1: now but it'll be interesting moving forward Now. Tennessee So
Speaker 1: tennessee has there's no More mike to. Board he has
Speaker 1: gone To. INDIANA i believe to be the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Of Tom, allen AND i Believe i've read in a
Speaker 1: couple Places Mark helfrich was a guest At Tennessee bowl,
Speaker 1: Practice so maybe there's smoke to That Mark helfrich. Fire
Speaker 1: tennessee will have an open quarterback job next, year AND
Speaker 1: i don't believe the hype will be as, robust BUT
Speaker 1: i think it'll be there moving.
Speaker 2: Forward it should. Be they've recruited really, well and two
Speaker 2: nine win seasons in a, row they've recruited really. Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah and of, course the other rumor That i'm sure
Speaker 2: or you're gonna love to talk about over the course
Speaker 2: of the next couple months and possibly the next, season
Speaker 2: there is a former big name college football coach who's
Speaker 2: out there on the free agent, Market Steve spurrier one
Speaker 2: in the forum Of charles Chip. Kelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, UH i, mean we can talk about some of
Speaker 1: the news and rumors, later but, yeah some of the
Speaker 1: news about Chip, kelly including from our Friend Bruce, feldman
Speaker 1: is that there are at least a couple of schools
Speaker 1: that would be willing to make a coaching change if
Speaker 1: they felt they could get Chip. KELLY i don't think
Speaker 1: It's tennessee at this, POINT, Ucla, hell MAYBE a AND
Speaker 1: m maybe he oh THEY. O kevin's a lot of.
Speaker 1: MONEY i don't think they'll make that. Move not this.
Speaker 2: Year we'll. See he's going to be a name to,
Speaker 2: watch to say the. Least we'll see when that eventually
Speaker 2: ends up. Going BUT i think if it goes the
Speaker 2: same way it did this year For. Tennessee they could
Speaker 2: potentially be in the market for a new.
Speaker 1: Coach, yeah that's a tough, job tough. Job that's that's
Speaker 1: an eleven twelve win expectation without without the recent.
Speaker 2: Results Nick saban's driving people in THE sec.
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah, yes.
Speaker 2: All, Right speaking, up Which georgia won their bowl game
Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty three OVER. Tcu they finished eight to.
Speaker 2: Five i'm not sure how much of The Liberty bowl
Speaker 2: you had a chance to, Watch, dan But Nick chubb
Speaker 2: had a nice game. Here Jacob, eason you know it Looked,
Speaker 2: okay there wasn't anything in this game THAT i found,
Speaker 2: exemplary BUT i thought a nice way For georgia to
Speaker 2: finish out its. SEASON a pretty disappointing, SEASON i think
Speaker 2: For Kirby smart in year. ONE i think people had
Speaker 2: really high expectations for what The dogs were going to
Speaker 2: do in year one of his. Tutelage but got to,
Speaker 2: remember you had a freshman, quarterback defensive. Turnover, yeah a
Speaker 2: lot of moving pieces here THAT i thought came. Together,
Speaker 2: okay just maybe not to the extent that a lot
Speaker 2: of fans.
Speaker 1: Wanted, YEAH i was going to, say speaking of disappointing
Speaker 1: offensive lines after The Nebraska tennessee. Game it would have
Speaker 1: been good Because georgia's had a disappointing offensive line all
Speaker 1: year long IN tcu the back half of the season,
Speaker 1: anyway and as evidenced in The Liberty bowl Against. Georgia,
Speaker 1: oh their OFFENSIVE i gotta be. Down yeah they got beat.
Speaker 1: Down but, yeah disappointing season FOR. Tcu good For georgia
Speaker 1: are finishing out the season on a strong. NOTE i
Speaker 1: believe they're recruiting super, well so there should be a
Speaker 1: lot of optimism In, athens though you'd like to see
Speaker 1: some more offensive consistency and or.
Speaker 2: Efficiency The Valero alamobowl Between Oklahoma state And colorado was
Speaker 2: a bit of a runaway train in favor Of Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: State Mason rudolph got it. Going colorado just couldn't. Score
Speaker 2: this game surprised. ME i expected a little bit more
Speaker 2: of a fight From. Colorado you were on record Picking Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: STATE i was on record Picking Oklahoma. STATE i just
Speaker 1: could count on them a little bit. More Say llufau
Speaker 1: was coming off of the injury Against. Washington the man you?
Speaker 1: Have you Watched? Westworld, yes a little bit shows In,
Speaker 1: Okay so, conceptually you understand what's going. On sure that
Speaker 1: you know you can kill some robots and they're gonna
Speaker 1: come right back to. Life Say lulufoul just week in
Speaker 1: and week, out getting hurt early making his way. Back
Speaker 1: AM i saying that he's A West world? Host, yes
Speaker 1: that's What i'm. Saying Say lulufou is an Old west robot.
Speaker 1: Cowboy Mason rudolph was great in this, game not surprisingly another,
Speaker 1: Dude James, washington Junkyard Jim. Washington he completely explodes On
Speaker 1: colorado for what over one hundred and fifty, yards had
Speaker 1: a big, touchdown And Oklahoma state sort of secretly and
Speaker 1: quietly becomes defined by, defense ball, control running the ball
Speaker 1: really well over the second half of the. Season Justice
Speaker 1: hill with another good. Game Vincent taylor personal favorite of
Speaker 1: mine because he's A, pieman was A pieman, finalist always
Speaker 1: A pieman. Finalist So Oklahoma state did a really nice,
Speaker 1: job especially with strange circumstances at the end of a
Speaker 1: certain game early in the, season of not letting that
Speaker 1: define who they were all.
Speaker 2: Year dum where else we go in, Here i'm going
Speaker 2: to run through these pretty. Much let's do it, requiz you,
Speaker 2: know we're running short on. Time The Belk bowl Between
Speaker 2: Virginia tech And. Arkansas Virginia tech wins thirty five to twenty.
Speaker 2: Four Virginia tech caught a heater in this. Game they
Speaker 2: were losing early and then they just poured it on
Speaker 2: in the span of gosh knows how. Long it seems
Speaker 2: as if this game just turned on a. Dime all
Speaker 2: of a, sudden they were. Up they end up winning
Speaker 2: the football game going. Away the big story for me,
Speaker 2: though out of The Belk bowl was did you see
Speaker 2: the controversy about the. SHOPLIFTING i did see the.
Speaker 1: Controversy it Was Josh, SPRINKLE i believe, So, Yes Jeremy,
Speaker 1: sprinkle something like.
Speaker 2: That so you get a four hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 2: gift card to go To belk and they say you
Speaker 2: got ninety. Minutes, yeah get as much as he can
Speaker 2: for four hundred and fifty. Dollars, yeah this enterprising young
Speaker 2: man decided that he was going to try and take,
Speaker 2: more and he got pegged for, it AND i believe
Speaker 2: didn't play in this.
Speaker 1: Game. Dan it's not the easiest thing to do to
Speaker 1: spend three four hundred dollars a. Bell you can there's
Speaker 1: some good values to be. Had per my quick scanning
Speaker 1: of their, website four hundred and.
Speaker 2: Fifty dollars is a lot to. Spend you can find many.
Speaker 2: Dollars you can find some big ticket items that will
Speaker 2: suit your. Fancy in ninety minutes does not seem like
Speaker 2: too much to. Ask he got a little bit too,
Speaker 2: greedy and he paid for, it.
Speaker 1: Forgettable twenty four. Hours and, someday When Justin Flente fuente,
Speaker 1: RETIRES i desperately hope that he starts a sports bar
Speaker 1: called thirty five. Unanswered all, right that's ALL i. Want
Speaker 1: that Was that was?
Speaker 2: Awful? Okay advocare v one Hundred Texas bowl K state
Speaker 2: thirty THREE a AND m twenty. Eight Bill snyder does it, Again, Dan,
Speaker 2: yes he. Does freaking guy does it. Again big plays
Speaker 2: though From Kansas state uncharacteristic and it was just ball
Speaker 2: control and from a sprinkle to A Pringle Byron, pringle
Speaker 2: a nice, day has a long touchdown And TEXAS a
Speaker 2: AND m just can't stay out of their own. Way
Speaker 2: And Trevor knight.
Speaker 1: Has a nice enough, day but they they they the
Speaker 1: second half was just not a time for TEXT a AND.
Speaker 1: M i didn't watch a lot of this. Game BUT
Speaker 1: i was slipping back and, forth and every single time
Speaker 1: THAT i went back to which bowl game was?
Speaker 2: This this was The advocare v one Hundred Texas.
Speaker 1: Excuse, me excuse, me The advocare v one Hundred Texas.
Speaker 1: Bowl it seemed Like TEXAS a and m either just
Speaker 1: didn't have the ball Because Kansas state was sitting on
Speaker 1: it or giving it.
Speaker 2: Away all, right some other bowl games real. Quick Russell
Speaker 2: Athletic bowl thirty one in favor Of Miami West virginia.
Speaker 2: Fourteen Brad kaya announced that he is foregoing his senior.
Speaker 2: Season he is going to THE NFL dan also The
Speaker 2: Russell Athletic. Bowl cluing us in on what eye slide
Speaker 2: sandals are all, about.
Speaker 1: Right we have now custom eyeside sandals they sent to,
Speaker 1: us and they seem very. COMFORTABLE i have not put
Speaker 1: them on my, feet, yet but they're they're called eyesides
Speaker 1: apparently because you can slide your foot right. IN i
Speaker 1: slide my foot, in so they're they're sort of the
Speaker 1: rubbery like you would wear if you were a thirteen
Speaker 1: year old playing in a soccer. Tournament And i'm fine with.
Speaker 1: THAT i am fun at that end Of Skyler howard's
Speaker 1: career At West virginia not all that. Eventful In miami's,
Speaker 1: defense one of the secretly, underrated very very good units
Speaker 1: in college football this. Season they completely hold Down West virginia's.
Speaker 2: Offense Georgia tech thirty, Three kentucky eighteen in the Tax Slayer.
Speaker 2: Bowl we also Had utah twenty, Six indiana twenty four
Speaker 2: in The Foster Farms. Bowl Dan fox went with the
Speaker 2: studio on the field.
Speaker 1: Treatment here they. Did they, Listened it's all because of.
Speaker 1: Me not a great, game not a great game For,
Speaker 1: utah but they come out with the. Win you, Know
Speaker 1: indiana going through its. Changes they made this, close BUT
Speaker 1: i think it Was is It Marcus, williams their ridiculous,
Speaker 1: safety he's turning. Pro Troy williams has a Very Troy williams.
Speaker 1: Day doesn't do all that, much but our favorite, Retiree Joe,
Speaker 1: williams just Every williams possible doing things For utah And.
Speaker 1: Indiana moving, forward we'll. SEE i feel good about their
Speaker 1: defense moving. Forward i'd like to see a little bit more,
Speaker 1: offensively especially considering where they've, been especially on the.
Speaker 2: Ground New Era Pinstripe Bowl northwestern thirty, one pit twenty.
Speaker 2: Four nice game For Nate peterman thirteen of, eighteen two
Speaker 2: fifty three through the, Air really nice game on the
Speaker 2: ground For Northwesterns Justin Jackson dan he had two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty some odd yards in this. Game an offensive,
Speaker 2: EXPLOSION a good game to. Watch northwestern gets the better
Speaker 2: of Pit.
Speaker 1: Yeah give him an, Inch she'll take a. Mile juste
Speaker 1: And jackson inconsistent over the course of the, year but
Speaker 1: When northwestern's running game is, working he goes. Crazy Quadri
Speaker 1: henderson a nice enough, day didn't probably get enough touches
Speaker 1: and uncharacteristic for Pitt. IS i mean their pass defense
Speaker 1: has been awful for a couple of years, Now they've
Speaker 1: been pretty good against the, run And northwestern had their
Speaker 1: way with The. Panthers So. Northwestern If clemson wins the national,
Speaker 1: championship we are talking double Transitive national championship tie in
Speaker 1: The Birmingham.
Speaker 2: Bowl this is actually a pretty good. Game, yeah my,
Speaker 2: Boy Quittin flowers FOR, usf lighting it. Up he had
Speaker 2: two sixty one through the, air one oh five on the,
Speaker 2: ground five total. TOUCHDOWNS usf. Wins they go eleven and
Speaker 2: two in overtime, Though, yeah needed. Overtime to do. It
Speaker 2: but forty six to thirty nine bit of a shootout
Speaker 2: here Over South carolina in a game that tightened up.
Speaker 2: Late a'll do credit To South carolina coming on, strong
Speaker 2: scored a couple times in the fourth quarter to level
Speaker 2: this one up and take it to.
Speaker 1: Ot, yeah, promising encouraging performance From Jake, bentley who had
Speaker 1: a huge. Day it's just impossible to win with five.
Speaker 1: Turnovers it is impossible to, win And South carolina almost
Speaker 1: made the impossible. Happen but, yeah your Boy Quintin flowers
Speaker 1: just continues to do work against a pretty Good South carolina.
Speaker 1: Defense an impressive way to finish out the. Season eleven
Speaker 1: wins is no, joke especially given WHERE usf has been
Speaker 1: these past couple of.
Speaker 2: Years and finally The Nova Home Loans Arizona. Bowl Air
Speaker 2: force forty, Five South alabama twenty One.
Speaker 1: Dan, yeah they fall down, early they came back a
Speaker 1: cap to a nice, year a very quiet ten win
Speaker 1: season For Air, force but impressive, Nonetheless all, right.
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Speaker 2: Life all. Right so we mentioned at the top of
Speaker 2: the show that there were some other news. Tidbits we, talked,
Speaker 2: yeah add nausey about the bowl, games, Right we talked
Speaker 2: about The Lane kiffin. Thing we talked about some guys
Speaker 2: that are declaring. Early we mentioned anecdotally About Tracy clay's Leaving.
Speaker 2: Minnesota what other odds and ends are there in and
Speaker 2: around the world of college football that we didn't, address all.
Speaker 1: Right so we have some big activity At Ohio. State
Speaker 1: so there's a rumor or a report That Kevin wilson's
Speaker 1: going to be the new offensive coordinator In, columbus which
Speaker 1: if he can put up more than zero points against
Speaker 1: a big name team in a bowl, game then certainly
Speaker 1: that's an. Improvement they also are Hiring Ryan, day who's
Speaker 1: a long Time Chip kelly guy who was At Boston
Speaker 1: college for a. While he has been with With Chip,
Speaker 1: KELLY i think At New hampshire and now with the
Speaker 1: forty Nine ers And. Eagles he is their new quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Coach And Tim, beck who was running the offense for
Speaker 1: a house he goes With Tom herman to run the
Speaker 1: offense At texas Now Sterlin, gilbert who had come From
Speaker 1: tulsa To, texas is now Joining Charlie strong AT usf
Speaker 1: WITH i Think texas's offensive line Coach Matt Maddox Chip
Speaker 1: long tie me this offensive Coordinator dame putting up forty
Speaker 1: points a game in his first year With Mike norvel
Speaker 1: now in At Notre. Dame how do you feel about that.
Speaker 1: ADDITION i think it's a good.
Speaker 2: ADDITION i think he's a sound, recruiter which is going
Speaker 2: to help them in the absence Of Mike, denbrock who
Speaker 2: is a really good, recruiter and he now joins the
Speaker 2: staff over At. CINCINNATI i am curious to see how
Speaker 2: much play, calling if, any because it seems as If
Speaker 2: Brian kelly is pretty adamant about taking a more hands
Speaker 2: on approach on the.
Speaker 1: Offense is that a good? THING i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i Trust Brian kelly is an offensive play. Caller,
Speaker 2: well he called the games this, year, Right Mike denbrock
Speaker 2: was calling the plays this. Year he was Calling, okay
Speaker 2: so you Know Brian kelly call. PLAYS i think is
Speaker 2: ultimately a good. Thing but, again you wade into this
Speaker 2: uncomfortable territory of you've got a guy who's a head.
Speaker 2: Coach he's got numerous other things that demand his. Attention
Speaker 2: for him to also be calling the plays as he
Speaker 2: diluting himself a little, BIT i don't. KNOW i think
Speaker 2: it's a good move to Bring chip along.
Speaker 1: Aboard do you know Who Notre dame begins the season.
Speaker 1: With they begin it With. Temple and if you Think
Speaker 1: temple is not going to Be america's team In week,
Speaker 1: one new offensive or excuse, me new head Coach Jeff,
Speaker 1: Collins i'm all.
Speaker 2: In i'm thinking of a four letter word that rhymes with,
Speaker 2: duck BUT i don't THINK i could stay it on the.
Speaker 1: Air Temple georgia AT pc At Michigan state to open
Speaker 1: their four Game. September other Than Notre, dame we Have tennessee,
Speaker 1: Obviously mike to. Board he's going To. Indiana Mark, helfrich
Speaker 1: we mentioned that earlier has been In. Knoxville we'll. See
Speaker 1: it would be an interesting fit considering the talent that
Speaker 1: they bring. BACK i think he could succeed. There Troy,
Speaker 1: taylor the offensive coordinator At Eastern, washington who they've been
Speaker 1: succeeding in recent. YEARS i think he was only there
Speaker 1: this past. Year. Jake he Was Jake browning's former head
Speaker 1: coach in high. School he is now the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: At utah After utah moves on From Aaron. Roderick Dennis
Speaker 1: erickson also retired for however many TIMES i don't, know
Speaker 1: with no.
Speaker 2: Fanfare by the, way not a lot of fanfare.
Speaker 1: Has had a weird fourth or fifth act WHATEVER. Ucla
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, Earlier Jed, fish who was the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and receivers coach For, michigan is now moving out. West
Speaker 1: most of his, experience if not all of his, experiences
Speaker 1: is far east of The West, coast but should be
Speaker 1: an interesting what we presume to be final year For
Speaker 1: Josh rosen to see if that offense can get going
Speaker 1: with new. Leadership baylor And Matt lubick appeared to be an.
Speaker 1: Item Matt lubick was the receiver's coach For oregon last
Speaker 1: year and the offensive coordinator For, oregon and he had
Speaker 1: the receiver's job at Ole miss for like two weeks
Speaker 1: and NOW i think he is getting a coordinator job
Speaker 1: At baylor From matt. Rule oregon has hired a bunch
Speaker 1: of Assistants Jimmy doherty From michigan to coach, Receivers Dante, Plimpton,
Speaker 1: pimpleton excuse me at running. Back Charles, clark The colorado DB's,
Speaker 1: coach is going to be coaching. Corners Keith, hayward The
Speaker 1: louisville DB's, coach will be coaching safeties For. Oregon all
Speaker 1: sorts of good recruiters. There, anyway we mentioned The Bob diaco, thing, Right,
Speaker 1: yeah we mentioned The Bob diaco. Thing Randy edzel is
Speaker 1: slowly building his staff in Stores. MINNESOTA.
Speaker 2: Pj, Fleck maybe Maybe Chip, Kelly Charles, Ship, Kelly Craig
Speaker 2: Craig bull wouldn't be the worst. Hire And, FLORIDA i
Speaker 2: mean they's short a defensive. Coordinator Whi Jeff collins going To.
Speaker 2: Temple But Randy shannon was the interim D c for
Speaker 2: The gators Against iowa did a hell of a. Job
Speaker 2: there are times in, life more often than, not when
Speaker 2: being first puts you in the best position to. Succeed
Speaker 2: this may be one of those. Situations For, Minnesota we're
Speaker 2: being last to fire your coach may actually work in their. Favor.
Speaker 1: Yeh see where the dust, Settles see where the dust.
Speaker 2: SETTLES. Pj fleck didn't get a. GIG i don't think
Speaker 2: The Chip kelly thing's gonna, happen but, lord, no stranger
Speaker 2: things have. Happened Craig boll could be an interesting. Name
Speaker 2: there are a bunch of names that are still out
Speaker 2: there THAT i think would look at That minnesota. Job
Speaker 2: with a new stadium and certainly playing in a big
Speaker 2: time conference like The Big, ten they'd look at that
Speaker 2: job as an. Upgrade So i'm real curious to see
Speaker 2: which direction they take.
Speaker 1: That bull is definitely, older and there's some good coaches
Speaker 1: out in that Big sky region total, yes ranks and
Speaker 1: stuff like. That, YEAH i, Mean bull's, older and you,
Speaker 1: know it's sort of starting from scratch on a certain
Speaker 1: level With, minnesota if you're installing a very different kind
Speaker 1: of offense and. Culture, YEAH i think you're. RIGHT i
Speaker 1: think there's some interesting, names all.
Speaker 2: Right where are we at WITH nfl? Declarations glad you, Asked?
Speaker 2: Ty seems like there have been a lot of. Them
Speaker 2: so there have been a lot. Recently just stop me
Speaker 2: when anyone of these jumps out to you as worth
Speaker 2: noting or seeming weird or unexpected or making.
Speaker 1: Just too much. Sense, okay here we. Go Buddha Baker,
Speaker 1: Washington Katie, Cannon, Baylor Garon, conley the corner From Ohiose,
Speaker 1: State James, connor which again another person we hope makes
Speaker 1: a billion dollars in THE nfl and never gets. Hurt
Speaker 1: Dalvin cook At Florida state certainly ready Grad evans is
Speaker 1: a name that that's a WEIRD i looked at AND
Speaker 1: i was, like showed a lot of, promise would have
Speaker 1: benefited from another, Year BUT i don't think it's a
Speaker 1: particularly strong quarterback. Class so on that, LEVEL i GUESS
Speaker 1: i understand, It BUT i think he. COULD i think
Speaker 1: there were moments where he showed he was a little
Speaker 1: bit raw this year and could have.
Speaker 2: Improved he, could he could have a year Under Justin.
Speaker 2: Fluente Isaiah ford also the record Breaking Virginia tech. RECEIVER
Speaker 2: i think he was ready down to foreman For texas
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't have anything left to. Prove Leonard fournette, Obviously Wayne,
Speaker 2: Gallman Miles garrett Uh, Devon god's. Show great name the
Speaker 2: defensive lineman FOR, Lsu AND i did see. That, god
Speaker 2: what's THE lsu defensive? Lineman Christian lacotour is coming? Back
Speaker 2: so that's really nice for Ed.
Speaker 1: Orgron, yeah you Have Charles, harris who did a had
Speaker 1: a really nice career For missouri long their defensive. Line Malie,
Speaker 1: hooker your boy to be expected comes. Out Sidney, jones
Speaker 1: we Mentioned Brad. Kaya what do you feel About Brad kaya?
Speaker 2: COMING i think he should have waited another.
Speaker 1: YEAR i think so. Too next year is definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be a stronger class With Josh rosen and Possibly sam
Speaker 1: Dnal to.
Speaker 2: Say you don't know About Sam darnold either.
Speaker 1: Red shirt sophomore year next year and after which he
Speaker 1: will be. Eligible christian McCaffrey obviously he leaves, early and
Speaker 1: that makes sense considering the workload that he has had
Speaker 1: these past couple of. Years samaj P ryan makes. Sense
Speaker 1: Elijah qualls probably maximizing his own stock in the nfl.
Speaker 1: Ur Tavis scott has, already you, Know dabo has already
Speaker 1: come out and said that he intends to enter the Draft.
Speaker 1: Clemson Ricky Siel's joan the physical talent out wide for
Speaker 1: TEXT a AND. M i don't know that he fully
Speaker 1: ever reached his ceiling at TEXT a AND, m Though
Speaker 1: Sean watson not a surprise at. All T. J watt
Speaker 1: For wisconsin had an incredibly productive year for The. BADGERS
Speaker 1: i think that's the right right. Move Stanley Boom williams,
Speaker 1: UNDERRATED i think Underrated.
Speaker 2: Kentucky that he's not coming back.
Speaker 1: Does stink For. Kentucky Mike williams obviously considering the severity
Speaker 1: of his injury last. Year it's just it's tough to
Speaker 1: come back and play for free when you have the,
Speaker 1: talent you have the, ability and you have the. Opportunity
Speaker 1: And Joe, yerby who had had another quietly very good
Speaker 1: year For miami running, Back.
Speaker 2: So no huge surprises in. There the biggest to me
Speaker 2: Was Jrad evans that came.
Speaker 1: Out, Evans, yeah pretty big. Surprise some big names coming.
Speaker 1: Back Elijah hood had a you, KNOW i thought he
Speaker 1: should have probably had a better, Year BUT i don't
Speaker 1: think that's all on. Him Luke, fawk a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought he was going to be. Leaving he is
Speaker 1: coming back For. Wazoo good news for, YOU i. Think mike, McGlinchey, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah coming, back says he's not ready to leave For Notre,
Speaker 1: dame fortifying an offensive line that you, know could probably
Speaker 1: use some more experience in Seasoning Mason. Rudolph it should
Speaker 1: be a nice year For Oklahoma state, OFFENSIVELY.
Speaker 2: I would think. So.
Speaker 1: Yeah and speaking of, Which Junkyard gym is coming.
Speaker 2: Back Junkyard.
Speaker 1: Gym that's what we, have.
Speaker 2: All, Right, Dan, well we are clocking in at about
Speaker 2: an hour and twenty minutes here chalk fullow info at
Speaker 2: least before some small edits here and. There so longer
Speaker 2: show than, usual but we had a lot of ground to. Cover,
Speaker 2: yes AS i mentioned, earlier we're going to be In.
Speaker 2: Tampa we're not going to be publishing a million shows
Speaker 2: while we're down. There we're also going to be talking
Speaker 2: to some other FOLKS tbd as of now as to
Speaker 2: who in fact they will, be but we're going to
Speaker 2: conduct some interviews that will like we did last, year
Speaker 2: we'll play them back throughout the course Of january And
Speaker 2: february And march And, april just to keep this train
Speaker 2: rolling all throughout the off.
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Speaker 1: From tampa with all sorts of our pals doing fun.
Speaker 1: Things the plan is to. Stream we're not gonna be
Speaker 1: DOING ncuba ninety, EIGHT i believe like we did for
Speaker 1: the semi final.
Speaker 2: Games this is my favorite idea.
Speaker 1: Ever so if you didn't catch, it we were streaming
Speaker 1: with the use in the assistance OF ncuba ninety, eight
Speaker 1: which is a long time ago Tie washington Versus Alabama washington. One,
Speaker 1: unfortunately and our sim was not. Accurate But Clemson Ohio
Speaker 1: state that was deadly. ACCURATE i believe it was twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven thirty one total. Points nailed. It clemson
Speaker 1: wins comfortably nailed. It so with that, said we're not
Speaker 1: going to be doing The National championship, game But ty
Speaker 1: AND i will be doing play by, play picture and
Speaker 1: picture play by play of The techmo Super Ver. Bowl
Speaker 1: so we are going to Use techmo super with some
Speaker 1: sort of mod to play the twenty Sixteen Oregon Team
Speaker 1: Real bad against the twenty Sixteen Notre Dame Team Real.
Speaker 1: Bad AND i would say pay. Attention like Our facebook,
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Speaker 2: SUPERVERBAL i am pumped for.
Speaker 1: This it's gonna be. Great so, yes pay, attention hang
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Speaker 2: There it is all, Right, well this is a fun.
Speaker 2: Show we appreciate everyone bearing with us a longer show this,
Speaker 2: evening but need to squeeze it all in before we
Speaker 2: depart For florida in a couple of. Days So, DAN
Speaker 2: i will talk to you in person On. FRIDAY i love.
Speaker 1: IT i Have do we have to wait around at
Speaker 1: the airport for? YOU i THINK i?
Speaker 2: Do you might have, to, Yeah, ah damn. It we'll
Speaker 2: figure this.
Speaker 1: Out but, yeah we are going to do a couple
Speaker 1: of mega shows and videos and it's gonna be a good.
Speaker 1: Time i'm looking forward to. It and we've got the
Speaker 1: live show in two weeks and In New.
Speaker 2: York. Yeah absolutely more on that to, come to say the,
Speaker 2: least for that guy over, There Dan, rubinstein for, Myself Tie,
Speaker 2: hildebrand thanks again for tuning. In we'll catch you all
Speaker 2: in a few. Days in the, meantime stay, solid, peace