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Speaker 1: with all the latest on the RFK confirmation, Tulsi confirmation
Speaker 1: depending at least we speak to you now, Cash Patel confirmation. Aaron,
Speaker 1: let me start with this, What is it about those
Speaker 1: three that you think is most upsetting to the Democrats
Speaker 1: who are doing what they can to complain about it,
Speaker 1: but they can't stop it so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, each one of them obviously is going to have
Speaker 2: their own nitpick that the left is going to focus on.
Speaker 2: But the thing that unifies unifies all of these people
Speaker 2: is that really, ultimately they are the enemy of the
Speaker 2: organization that they are being in charge of, which is
Speaker 2: exactly what you need when you have a hostile administrative state.
Speaker 2: Trump's biggest problem first term was in his inability to
Speaker 2: manage the executive branch itself. That they didn't respond, They
Speaker 2: were often denying any of the orders that he put out.
Speaker 2: They were pushing back in every way. And so this
Speaker 2: time around he recognizes the importance of Senate confirmations, getting
Speaker 2: people who are loyal to him and are not invested
Speaker 2: in the system as it stands. And so whether you're
Speaker 2: Tulsi Gabbard getting put on the no fly list, you're
Speaker 2: RFK facing all of the pushback he did when it
Speaker 2: came to the COVID vaccine and everything else, or your
Speaker 2: cash battel, and you're making a personal war against the
Speaker 2: corruption inside the FBI. Each one of these individuals knows
Speaker 2: that the organization they're being put in charge of has
Speaker 2: deep problems, and they are invested in solving those problems personally.
Speaker 1: Why do they hate Tulsi Gabbard? I mean that seems
Speaker 1: like a particularly weird one. I know she made it through,
Speaker 1: but Democrats were all making a big thing of whether
Speaker 1: she could do the job of d and I, first
Speaker 1: of all, Clapper was the DNI and he is an
Speaker 1: imbecile and a partisan hack. So it can't be that
Speaker 1: hard just putting that out there. But what is it
Speaker 1: about Tulci who ran for a Democrat nomination for the
Speaker 1: presidency in twenty twenty that is so upsetting to the
Speaker 1: Democrats just a few years later, Well, that itself.
Speaker 2: Has to be upsetting. Right, there's nothing worse than an apostate,
Speaker 2: somebody who has recognized the problems of your side and
Speaker 2: highlights them at every opportunity. And she should be the
Speaker 2: obvious candidate, right. She's female, she's strong, she's got military service,
Speaker 2: she's all these things that the left tells us they
Speaker 2: want in a woman in leadership, they want that kind
Speaker 2: of representation. And yet when it's time to actually put
Speaker 2: someone with all of those caveats in the office, all
Speaker 2: of those different attributes in the office, turns out they
Speaker 2: don't want them there at all, because they'll point out
Speaker 2: things like old Telsea Gabbard, she talked about Ali said
Speaker 2: or Mishar Aliside at some point, or she you know,
Speaker 2: they say she's soft on Russia, she's an Asian agent
Speaker 2: of Putin. The answer is really, ultimately, she's not on
Speaker 2: board with the foreign policy establishment as it is now.
Speaker 2: She's not very very she's not a big fan of
Speaker 2: the intelligence community as is currently constituted. And that's ultimately
Speaker 2: what they're going to push back against. Anyone who's working
Speaker 2: for Trump is going to be the devil for them,
Speaker 2: no matter what their prior positions were, But specifically with Gabbard.
Speaker 2: It seems to be her willingness to talk to some
Speaker 2: of the people that have been forbidden previously.
Speaker 1: When it comes to RFK Junior, we'll get to cash
Speaker 1: as well. I think that one's pretty clear. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to RFK Junior specifically, do you think the
Speaker 1: again they're animus to him. We can just put for
Speaker 1: all of these it's Trump wants it, so they don't
Speaker 1: want it, right, I know there's that that's not true
Speaker 1: in every case. They all voted for Mark or Rubio,
Speaker 1: for example, their senate colleague. But you know, for any
Speaker 1: of these outsiders, Trump wants it. They want to post Trump. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's baked in. But in terms of the ferocity of
Speaker 1: the opposition that we have seen from particularly some Democrats, senators, commentators,
Speaker 1: is it that RFK Junior was also a former Democrat
Speaker 1: or is it that he was really among the early
Speaker 1: ones to shatter the false god Fauci during COVID, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you see their view of RFK Junior now,
Speaker 1: because it strikes me as interesting, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're like big, They're all in favor of Big Pharma, right,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're like, how dare you question.
Speaker 2: Oh, they were always huge fans of big farmer right,
Speaker 2: like that was the entire democratic pushes. We need to
Speaker 2: make these people invincible. They need to have shields against
Speaker 2: litigation in case their drug hurts people, which it does.
Speaker 2: Like this is all stuff the left is on side with.
Speaker 2: That's always the lie that the left is put forth
Speaker 2: that they were somehow anti corporation, anti capital. That's not true.
Speaker 2: They just wanted capital to agree with it. They wanted
Speaker 2: woke capital, and once capital went woke, they were more
Speaker 2: than happy to back it on whatever it was doing.
Speaker 2: They hated capitalism minutes ago. But the menut capitalism is
Speaker 2: stuffing their coffers, you know, making sure that they're candidates
Speaker 2: get elected. They're willing to work all kinds of different
Speaker 2: things into contracts for different places like Pfizer. But ultimately
Speaker 2: I think that RFK does two things. One he shatters
Speaker 2: kind of the JFK myth. Right, there's this kind of camelot.
Speaker 2: This is the Democrats, this was the new society. It
Speaker 2: got shot down when GfK and RFK were assassinated, and
Speaker 2: he was the heir to this, And there's kind of
Speaker 2: that part of it. And on top of that, yes,
Speaker 2: they will focus on him and say, oh, well, he's
Speaker 2: a science denier. I've already seen the different articles coming
Speaker 2: out about how a science denier is now in charge
Speaker 2: of the AHHS. But the truth is ultimately that obviously
Speaker 2: Bauci made up a bunch of stuff. He's already admitted
Speaker 2: that he made up a bunch of stuff, the distancing
Speaker 2: whether or not masks would work for children, All of
Speaker 2: these things were manufactured, and so the idea that he's
Speaker 2: a science denier rather than someone who simply has a
Speaker 2: basic level of skepticism is yeah, frankly false. Now, ultimately,
Speaker 2: do I agree with everything RFK believes? Do I think
Speaker 2: that every concern he has about our health is accurate?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know all of the different
Speaker 2: areas in which he is focused. I know he's big
Speaker 2: on health. He's big on making sure that we adjust
Speaker 2: what's in food and vaccines and medicines and these kind
Speaker 2: of things. But ultimately the important thing is that he's skeptical.
Speaker 2: That he's walking into this department and he's looking at
Speaker 2: each thing and saying does this belong here? I'm not
Speaker 2: just going to do this on a autopilot just because
Speaker 2: Obama or Biden's experts tell me this is what is
Speaker 2: supposed to happen. I'm not going to automatically just parrot
Speaker 2: that back to the president. Instead, I'm going to take
Speaker 2: this case by case and really decide whether this should
Speaker 2: be dismantled, disposed of, or whether it's actually necessary. And
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they don't want, because again, the administrative
Speaker 2: state is just one large leftist patronage network that we
Speaker 2: like to call a government. Sometimes we're to.
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Speaker 1: I think that they should be most concerned about Cash,
Speaker 1: I think, which is still as we talk up, you know,
Speaker 1: he has not yet gotten through. I think he will
Speaker 1: get through. But I know Cash a bid, and I
Speaker 1: know what he's been through, and I know that he
Speaker 1: knows what they know and what they've done in the
Speaker 1: deep state. How do you view this one and what's
Speaker 1: going to happen once he assuming he gets through confirmation,
Speaker 1: which I think he will, like, why do they hate
Speaker 1: him so much? We could just dive into it that way.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're more familiar with Cash than I am.
Speaker 2: You can probably speak to that a little better. What
Speaker 2: I do know is obviously the FBI is deeply corrupt.
Speaker 2: We have a scenario in which an organization that is
Speaker 2: supposed to protect Americans has spent the majority of its
Speaker 2: influenced time and agents, focusing on things like surveilling Christians,
Speaker 2: making sure we arrest people who protest against abortion clinics,
Speaker 2: making sure that we haul you know, different parents and
Speaker 2: who object to the digender and doctrination their schools out
Speaker 2: and threaten them, send threatening letters to them. That's the
Speaker 2: kind of FBI that has been off operating in the
Speaker 2: United States during the Biden administration. They've obviously been targeting
Speaker 2: political enemies of the Democratic Party. They have more or
Speaker 2: less become a praetorian guard or the ruling elite in
Speaker 2: the United States. And a guy like Cash Patel, who
Speaker 2: has been through the Ringer, who understands the danger of
Speaker 2: this organization and it's continued malice against Red America is
Speaker 2: their worst nightmare because he knows exactly how they operate.
Speaker 2: He knows where the weaknesses are, the corruption is. He's
Speaker 2: going to get in there and ferret that out. And obviously,
Speaker 2: you can talk about health services, these are very important.
Speaker 2: Obviously these are critical institutions. But when the state police force,
Speaker 2: when the federal police force is corrupt, that is something
Speaker 2: that just spreads throughout the entirety of the culture that
Speaker 2: poisons the entire civic experience for every citizen, and so
Speaker 2: that is a critical thing that has to be fixed.
Speaker 2: It has that ideology that corruption has to be pulled
Speaker 2: out root and branch. And of course you want somebody
Speaker 2: with a chip on the shoulder going in there, because
Speaker 2: there's somebody who is not going to get sucked into
Speaker 2: the system. Figure out how long they can stay. They
Speaker 2: know how dangerous it is, they know the critical nature
Speaker 2: of reforming it right.
Speaker 1: Well, of course it's it's funny. I was watching Morning,
Speaker 1: which I don't recommend or and I saw them complaining
Speaker 1: about how Trump has gotten rid of some of these
Speaker 1: inspector generals inside or inspectors general whatever, inside of these
Speaker 1: various federal agencies. And they're saying, well, if you wanted
Speaker 1: to root out corruption, why would you get rid of
Speaker 1: the people who are supposed to find the corruption. It's like,
Speaker 1: because they're not doing it right, because they've been wildly
Speaker 1: unsuccessful at preventing a lot of stuff that I think
Speaker 1: is just a matter of public public record now. So
Speaker 1: to me, it seems quite clear that the old, the
Speaker 1: old argument that somehow was able to persist for a
Speaker 1: long time of the system. Will you know, the system
Speaker 1: exists for important reasons as it does, and it will
Speaker 1: take care of itself. Don't mess with it. I just
Speaker 1: think that people reject that. Now, well, we've seen too much,
Speaker 1: and the system doesn't fix itself, it doesn't have the
Speaker 1: accountability necessary for improvement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the saying in engineering called the purpose of
Speaker 2: a system is what it does, right, And when we
Speaker 2: look at the different systems in the United States government,
Speaker 2: we see over and over again they're labeled one thing,
Speaker 2: but they were doing an entirely different thing. Right. The
Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security wasn't particularly interested in keeping our
Speaker 2: homeland secure. The Department of Defense wasn't interested in defending Americans,
Speaker 2: you know. The Border Patrol wasn't actually protecting the border,
Speaker 2: not because they didn't want to, because it was being
Speaker 2: made illegal for them by the Biden administration. Basically, all
Speaker 2: of these institutions are named one thing, but what they
Speaker 2: continue to do is another. And ultimately, if a system
Speaker 2: continually produces one outcome, even though it's labeled and says
Speaker 2: it's supposed to produce another, you have to assume that
Speaker 2: the one it's producing is the one it's intended to produce.
Speaker 2: So the Department of Education doesn't educate children and instead
Speaker 2: just indoctrinates them in leftist ideology. Well, that's the actual
Speaker 2: purpose of the institution. And again that's why it's so
Speaker 2: important for these guys to come in and clean house.
Speaker 2: They know the institution is sick, they know that no
Speaker 2: one has been watching the watchmen, and they know so
Speaker 2: that it's important to set a new standard. Which is
Speaker 2: why it's so critical that all of these people who
Speaker 2: are while they are familiar with what's going on, they
Speaker 2: are people who are qualified to do what they are doing.
Speaker 2: They also are hostile to the people who have been
Speaker 2: doing it previously because those people have not actually been
Speaker 2: doing it. They've been serving a different purpose. They've been
Speaker 2: doing with the system actually wants to do instead of
Speaker 2: what the system is supposed to do. And people like Tulsi,
Speaker 2: people like Cash Hotel, they know their job is to
Speaker 2: go in there and make that system do what it's
Speaker 2: supposed to do, what it says on the label. But
Speaker 2: that means ripping out all of the rot, and some
Speaker 2: of these organizations, the rot is most of the organization.
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