1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's Lyle get this. I'm coming to over 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: forty cities across the United States, the UK, Europe and 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Australia to do this here Therapy Gecko Podcast Live. These 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: shows will involve bringing folks from the audience up on 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: stage to talk to a gecko about whatever they want, 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: just like we do on the podcast. The shows are 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: completely unplanned, completely unpredictable, and they will be a lot 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: of fun. So if you're a fan of the podcast, 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: you should definitely come out. 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What what's the matter? 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Oh no, nothing, I said, how are you? Twice? 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay. Randy bo Bandy Okay, So Randy 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: bou Bandy, I have to say I saw you in 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: the chat earlier and you said I apologize for my behavior. 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: What yeah, yeah, yeah, what were you apologizing for? 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: So I've been watching for for a couple of months, 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: and uh no, I noticed, like, you know, I feel 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of people that lie, and I 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: got hammered drunk last week and I was like, you 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: know what, a lot of people got to stop lying, 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: so I said in the chat, and it was like 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: incredibly poorly timed, like it was after that crazy call 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: last Monday. 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so you so you basically were in the chat 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: like oh everyone here is lying. 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, but I mean, I mean, but that's 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I actually called last week because I got 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: a crazy story and I think you'd want to hear it, 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: all right and hit me. All right. So when I 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: was when I was fourteen, so I'm twenty four now, 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. 42 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: I thought you were like in your forties. 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, I just live in Maine. We all talk 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: like this. Continue yeah, but uh so when I was fourteen, 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: I was at boy Scout camp in New Hampshire and 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: that's actually where I grew up. And uh I was. 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: We were all camped out on top of this mountain 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: and uh, the like the counselors that were with us 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: got a call from the bottom of the mountain and 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: they said there was a crazy storm coming in, and 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: so we kind of weighed out our options in the 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: campsite and and we decided instead of, you know, a 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: bunch of kids being halfway down the mountain on a 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: bald face, we were gonna like kind of try out 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: our luck at the top of the mountain where we 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: kind of had some cover. And we actually ended up 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: getting struck by lightning. So so that was wild. So yeah, 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: it was. I mean it wasn't direct it was indirectly, 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: but it was like the ground got struck in a 60 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: group of like twenty five kids, and so we were 61 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: all like soaking wet in this thunderstorm. And then you 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: add electricity into the mix and like, dude, I'm convinced, 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: I like died for like a split second. 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: Bro Okay, what was what was death? 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Like? 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Tell us please? 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I mean well, and and can I can I can 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: I tell you one more thing. I wasn't sure of 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: this until I got into a car accident in eighteen 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: and I had the same experience happen to me where 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: we slid off the road and we hit a telephone 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: pole in a bronco in North Carolina when I was 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 2: in the military, and I had the same I had 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: the same experience happen where everything just kind of went 75 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: purple and it kind of looked vainy, but it was 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: It was crazy, and I didn't realize what had happened 77 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: during the whole lightning thing, because I thought it was 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: just like you get struck by lightning, and it's like, 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: oh fuck, you got electrocuted, because like I went blind 80 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: for a little bit and I got I went deaf 81 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: for a little bit. It wasn't like crazy, it was 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: like for a few minutes, and then it was it 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: was like when I could see again, like all my 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: muscles were contracted and it was nuts. And so, you know, 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: all of us finally came to and we started doing 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: our thing, and like all of us kind of realized 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: this wee weird thing had happened, but none of us 88 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: kind of talked about it. And then after this car accident, 89 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: the same thing happened. And but after the car accident, 90 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: I felt like I was kind of looking down at 91 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: my body right, and because I looked down at the 92 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: whole thing and it was after I saw this like purple, 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: like veiny whatever. It was kind of like you know, 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: you look at the inside of your eyeballs and you are 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: like the insidey eyelids with your eyes closed, you know. 96 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's funny. Everything I've heard of, I've 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: heard of everything going black, I've heard of seeing the light, 98 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: but I have never heard of this purple before. 99 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it wasn't It wasn't like, you know, 100 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: like a vivid purple. I would I would compare it 101 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: to like you close your eyes and you like look 102 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: at the sun. 103 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: You know that's an orange. 104 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I mean like. 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: You death experience with my details. 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, I'm I'm glad you're not like 107 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, all my friends, like all my friends that 108 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: like talk to my parents are like, no, you're bullshit, 109 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: And my parents are like, no, this kid actually got 110 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: struck by lightning. 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: And it's like my parents met me at the hospital. 112 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: Don't worry. So is it is it. 113 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: Not true that when you get struck by lightning that 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of means you can never get struck by it again? 115 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: Is that is that that's. 116 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they they say that, but you know, you 117 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: have to get struck by lightning once to get struck twice. 118 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm saying, you know, I guys. 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: You I want to figure out what you mean by 120 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: that you have to get struck by lightning once to 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: get struck by lightning twice. 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's like a lot of catch. It's it's like, 123 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: you know, it's like a catch twenty two. You know, 124 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: you got to do something to move on, But you 125 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: gotta but you can't move on until you do that 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: thing or something like. You got to move on to 127 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: do the thing to move on to begin with. 128 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know like that? 129 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: Like that, I I feel like, you know, you're catching 130 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: me at my ten o'clock ramblings here. 131 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: But what I'm curious. What's your name again? 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Randy? 133 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Randy? 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: All right, Randy, and that's my actual name. I like 135 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: to get ham, you know. I you know, I used 136 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: to be in the Marine Corps. I like to you know, 137 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: I used to build ships. I used to operate heavy equipment. 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: You know. I work hard, I play harder. You know, 139 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: it's just the way I do. 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: What's the rest of your life? Like what do you what? 141 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: What's going on. 142 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: With I am? I am? Yeah, I h I Actually 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked. I've been I was watching your show, 144 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: and uh, I mean I don't I don't mean to 145 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: pollute your podcast with other podcasts, but your show, uh 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: THEO Vaughn and Joe Rogan. You know, I I spend 147 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: a lot of time by myself, you know. I live alone. 148 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: I've you know, it's funny, you know, everyone all the 149 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: girls want you when you're but you get out and 150 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: you know better than the rest of them. Which it's 151 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: a hard lesson to learn, but everyone's got to learn it, 152 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: you know. And so you know, I spend a lot 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: of time alone and single, and I work on myself, 154 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 2: you know. And I used to be a loud mouth 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: and I still am when I drink, obviously, but you know, 156 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: you know, you take baby steps and you work on yourself. 157 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 2: But I'm glad you asked, because no, I've been working 158 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: on self improvement. And uh, you know, I stumble, I 159 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: truly do. I stumble, you know, because we can all 160 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: be perfect. But I applied to college just before Christmas. 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: I got accepted to you Maine Augusta go moose. I mean, 162 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't really care for the moose, but I go 163 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: for them and then and then yeah, so I'm I 164 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: want to be a history teacher. Actually, I love history, 165 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, because there's there's a lot of lessons, a 166 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: lot of important less sense to be learned from history 167 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: because a lot of you know, a lot of people 168 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: paid their blood to learn those lessons. And if we 169 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: can learn from those lessons of the past, it prevents 170 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: us from making those errors that you know that costs 171 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: so dearly in the future. 172 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: You know what, uh, what's what's an example of a 173 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: lesson that you feel like we need to learn today 174 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: to not repeat from history? 175 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: You know, I can, do you mind if I step 176 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: up on a soapbox or something real quick? 177 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, man, we're in this far. 178 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: Let's do it all right. So, I mean, if I'm 179 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: if I were teaching history. You know, this is my 180 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: personal and this is my personal goal, is to teach history, 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: not in like a high school standpoint, because high schoolers 182 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: have no respect. I know a lot of high schoolers 183 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: are watching this, have no respect. They're like a lot 184 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: of drunk people. But but you know, I'd like to 185 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: teach college history. So I can be a college, you know, 186 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: a tenured professor and eventually say, you know, history is brutal. 187 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: Human civilization, human civilization is is the oddity from nature, 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: you know. Through through violence is how we've we've found 189 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: ourselves the security to be so civilized and be so 190 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: soft and emotional. And you need to realize that you 191 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: don't have it that hard compared to people in the past. 192 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: You know, my grandparents grew up in Nova Scotia without 193 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: power and running water in the nineteen thirties, you know, 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: and my memme is still alive today. She saw a 195 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: man walk on the moon and she grew up with 196 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: oxen pulling carts. You know, that's I think that's I 197 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: think that's absolutely wild. And another thing is, you know, 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: if you understand history a lot more, you care a 199 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: lot less about race, especially being an American, you know, 200 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: because you know, my my my grandmother on my dad's 201 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: side grew up in now he occupied Norway, you know, 202 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: and she she was white. She had no privileges well, 203 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, and she came to and she came to 204 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: you know, my Memmea and Pepe, my mother's parents. They 205 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: they're French speaking Japan and I don't you know you 206 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: want to go to France. I'll happily translate for you. 207 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm very cultured for a white guy. 208 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: Well well, well, let me let me ask you a question, Randy, 209 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: what yeah, what like? Is there a particular era of 210 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: history that you you want to teach? 211 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, is it the US or the world you 212 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: want to learn about? That's the question? 213 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: Whatever you want, man, all right? 214 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: So, I mean, if I were to teach I mean 215 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: as a whole twentieth century, the twentieth century, because you know, 216 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: you see, you see a great change in the twentieth century. 217 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: It went from only the poor people have horses and 218 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: the rich people have cars, to the rich people of 219 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: the poor people having cars. You see people walking on 220 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: the ground without motor transport, to a guy going to 221 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: the moon in sixty years. Dude, you know that stuff. 222 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you see multiple genocides and that, 223 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of lessons to be learned from that. 224 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: It's crazy because I mean, when you really think about 225 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and I'm a guy, I don't know anything about it 226 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: fucking anything, dude, But like, no, dude. 227 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: You're the ghek dude. Hey, hey, honestly, Dude, I've been 228 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: in a bad spot a lot of nights and dude, 229 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: your stream, Dude, it does. 230 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: Something, you know, Thanks Randy, I appreciate that. 231 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: Man, Hey, I appreciate you. 232 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Ghak Well, I got to say, it's a little bit 233 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: scary to see. I mean, if you look at the 234 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: how human history has changed, like on a line graph, 235 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a straight line for it. It's 236 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: like it's like a horizontal line for pretty much ever 237 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: and then the past like a few decades, it's the 238 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: line goes straight up in terms of like our exponential growth. 239 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: It's fucking terrified. I mean, even what I'm doing right now, 240 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Like this experience of talking to these people that I've 241 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: never met before and I'm being watched by all these 242 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: folks is like a not It's not even remotely a 243 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: human experience that was anything accessible in the past, you know, 244 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, so so so new. All this social media 245 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: is crap, and I feel like it's it does turn 246 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: people insane because we're we're not meant for it at all, 247 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: or and you know, our brains are not logged up 248 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, it's it's scary. 249 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: I totally get that, dude, Just perfect example. Dude. This 250 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: is my first time setting foot in a school in 251 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: seven years. Dude. I graduated high school barely in twenty sixteen. 252 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: I joined the Marine Corps. If they were like, hey, kid, 253 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: let's go. And now I'm in college and I go, 254 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: I see like I'm in person two days a week. 255 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how to fucking do this shit. Dude. 256 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: It's like I feel like, I mean not to knock 257 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: on any homeschool kids, but I'm gonna knock on some 258 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: homeschool kids. I feel like, you know, I feel like 259 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: everyone's as socialist, those weird homeschool kids. You know. It's 260 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: like I and you want to talk about change. I mean, 261 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: I don't mean to soak up the I don't mean 262 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: to soak up the stream here, but you want to 263 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: talk about change. I so my my my big deployment 264 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: when I was in the Marine Corps. And all my friends, 265 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: if they hear this, are gonna give me shit, just 266 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: ragging on me. But but I deployed in twenty nineteen. 267 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: In December, I said goodbye to my parents just before Christmas, 268 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: and then we went, you know, across the Atlantic Ocean. 269 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: I was an am tracker. If there's any you know, 270 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: am trackers. Yeah, yeah, eighteen thirty three. Baby, But we 271 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: went across the ocean right and we were at sea 272 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: when COVID happened, and they told us we weren't going 273 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: to touch land until we came back to America. And 274 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: this was in February. This is in February. We came 275 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: back to America in July. 276 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Holy shit. So you're on a boat for what. 277 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: I was on. I was on a ship, Dude. I 278 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: didn't see land for five months. 279 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Holy get just fishing. 280 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh so, dude, if you want it, dude, look it 281 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: up on YouTube. It's called the raz and Ra as 282 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: a resupply at sea. That ship is so cool. It's 283 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: a cargo ship pulls up to you and they send 284 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: zip lines over and they just send over stuff and 285 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: they say you get your mail, but they send over 286 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: like helicopters of you know, mail and stuff. 287 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, how at sea for five months. 288 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: You go crazy? I'll be I'll be honest with you. 289 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: You go, you go absolutely nuts, and you don't realize 290 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: it until you get home. But dude, since I've been home, 291 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: like I left, you know, I left, people were saying, 292 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: you don't have safe, you know, no, You're sorry, you know, 293 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: be safe, have a good Christmas, you know, all this shit. 294 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: And I come back right and someone I went into 295 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: a bar and someone said, where's your mask? I said, 296 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about? Dude? Oh I was, 297 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: I was. 298 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: At this time, at this time, at this time, did 299 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: you sway? 300 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: So? 301 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So you were on the boat for five months. 302 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Do you have a phone or the internet? 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's so I had. Yeah, I had a phone. 304 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: But you know, when you're thousands of miles was so 305 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: international waters at twelve miles, you don't get cell reception 306 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: past that, and you know, when you're in the middle 307 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: of the ocean, you're not getting cell reception from anything. 308 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: And then you know, you know a fun story, my 309 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: cell phone actually broke. I lent it to a you 310 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: know buddy, and he broke it, probably watching porn or something. 311 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: But nice, but but but yeah, So, I mean I 312 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: had no real way to communicate with my family except 313 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: for like a few laptops. But you have three hundred 314 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: people on a ship. No one's talked to the family 315 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: in five months, and there's three laptops. Yeah, no one's 316 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: really going to talk to anyone, but you know, they'd 317 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: print out the newspaper, but it was weird shit. You'd 318 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: see like tens of thousands dead in New York City. Oh, 319 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: they're filling trailers with bodies because they don't know what 320 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: to do with them. And then at the same time 321 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: you find out that a doctor lost his license to 322 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: practice because he said, oh no, this guy didn't die 323 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: of COVID, he died from a motorcycle accident. And it's like, oh, yeah, 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: that's kind of questionable. You know, so you formed these 325 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: weird and then at the same time we heard all 326 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: about the George Floyd riots and stuff like that, or no, 327 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: not the George Floyd, but all the others, all the 328 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: other riots. So you know where we were all, you know, 329 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of crazy time. Yeah, black white, all sort 330 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: of racist Americans, forming our own in different opinions on 331 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: the topic. And you know, none of us really had 332 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: a problem with each other. And you know, a lot 333 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: of us came to the conclusion without talking to anyone 334 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 2: who actually was the source of the problem that you know, 335 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: people don't communicate with each other. You know, people don't 336 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: talk to each other like the human beings. 337 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: Tell me more about the vibe on, Like to that point, 338 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: people don't talk to each other, People don't communicate with 339 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: each other. Tell me more about the vibe on. 340 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: For five months? Yeah? 341 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, like what like there's three hundred of you guys. 342 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: What's the community? 343 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: Like? 344 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: How how is everyone interacting with each other? 345 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Talking about some all right, So with the marines, there 346 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: were very few females, as you can imagine the sailors. 347 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: You know, there's quite a few more women in the 348 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: Navy than there are marines. To do with that information, 349 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: which you will, you know, it's it, but you know, 350 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: not in a creepy way. It's more is the you know, 351 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: the feeling is more somewhere between high school at sea 352 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: and prison at sea with the occasional with the occasional, 353 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: Hey there's a boat, everybody run to the guns. But no, 354 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: it's very boring. You know. You sit around and you 355 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: smoke a lot of cigarettes, you play a lot of poker, 356 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: You do some people, you know, you know, you know 357 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: back on what you know. I said people were liars. 358 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, you find a it's very easy to pick 359 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: out a liar, you know, when they tell the same 360 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: story on a ship for five months and the details change. Uh, 361 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's very it's very easy to spot inconsistencies 362 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: and stories when you hear nothing but live for six five, 363 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, five, six, seven months at a time. 364 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: What do you feel like? What do you feel like 365 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: you learned from that? Because you're this is such an 366 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: interesting experience, like limited access to the internet, limited access 367 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: to the outside world, literally isolated with three hundred other people, 368 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: all three hundred of you guys, all coming from from 369 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: different you know, spots and everything. Like what that's that's 370 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: an experience that a lot of people have not had. 371 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: What what do you feel like you learned from all that? 372 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Oh? I learned a lot of slang. Let me tell you. 373 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: I can like I got I got buddies from la 374 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: I got buddies from all over the country. You know 375 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: that guy from Wisconsin earlier. You know, I got buddies 376 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: from Stone in Wisconsin. I got buddies from New York. 377 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: You know, you learn a lot of shit. You learn 378 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: how to talk to people, like the people because you know, 379 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: society in the military is not the same as society 380 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: and normalst society. You know, sorry, how people act in 381 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: the military is very similar to how people act in jail. 382 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: You say the wrong ship to the wrong person, and 383 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: they're going to fuck you up, you know, So you learn, 384 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: you learn to carry yourself in a way where you 385 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: show others respect and you make others respect you and 386 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: will not make but you know you you make it 387 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: so others want to respect you, because if if you 388 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: want real respect, people mean to want to respect you. 389 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: You know. 390 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: And in your situation on that ship, what kinds of 391 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: things do you feel like people would do to what 392 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: What do you think commands respect in that environment? 393 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: Honesty, m honesty, compassion. You know. I am not claiming 394 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: to be perfect, but you know, I you know, I 395 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: was in a vehicle crew, you know. And if you 396 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: have you seen the movie Fury. 397 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm familiar with it, but I've never seen it. 398 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 2: Or okay, so I mean I'm not going to say, oh, 399 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: it's just like Fury. It's more like Kelly's Heroes if 400 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: you've ever seen that with the with you know, Clint 401 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: Eastwood and Donalds. It's a very good movie if you're 402 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: into World War two, but it's actually about a heist. 403 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: But anyway, no, you know, you live in a I 404 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: was in an aav If you want to google that 405 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: or if you ever play Battlefield three, it's that thing 406 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: that looks like a tank that no one wants to 407 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: use because it's not quite a tank, but at the 408 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: end of the day, it's a tank, you know, so 409 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: you live inside of it with you know, with your 410 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: two other crewmen. I was a crew chief, so I 411 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: sat in the turre and I had a driver and 412 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: I had a rear crewman, and they were my family man, 413 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: you know, because at the end of the day, when 414 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: you're sleeping in a field or in the desert and 415 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: you got no one with you, you got two guys in 416 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: a big steel box and they'll hang out with you 417 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: and they'll talk with you. And those folks that that's 418 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: with you, and you know, they'll shoot anyone that tries 419 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: to shoot you. And you know that, and you know what, 420 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: you know what to answer your question, that's ah, I 421 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: think I learned to appreciate people being with me more. 422 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, to that point, I want to say, 423 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: to that point, I've been thinking about this more like, 424 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: because you're on a ship with dudes. You didn't pick 425 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: these guys. They're just like the guys that you're with. 426 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: And I'm trying I'm trying to learn more. Like when 427 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm around people, like there's there's I think there's this 428 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: thing when you're around folks, like you want them to 429 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: be a certain way, or you wish somebody acted differently 430 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: or something, but like just appreciating the folks around you 431 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: exactly for who they are and just the fact that 432 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: they are the folks around you right now. You know, 433 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: say for anyone being like hostile or anything like that, Like, 434 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: there are the folks around you. They're not perfect, they're 435 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: not going to act exactly how you want them to, 436 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: but they're Yeah, it's it's it's just exactly what you're saying, 437 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Like it's just an honor to be around people in 438 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: general in this world. 439 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's it's it's an honor to be 440 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: around people. And yeah, you know what exactly because you know, 441 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: I anyone who knows me will tell you that there 442 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: is only one Randy, And uh, you know, I I 443 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: think there's a I don't think people realize that there's 444 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: only one to everyone. You know, if you say you're 445 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: one in a million, there's you know, eight and a 446 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: half thousand people just like you. But if you say 447 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: you know, you're the only motherfucker on twitch TV. You're 448 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: actually the person that made me get twitch TV. You're 449 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: the only motherfucker that I would watch dressed as a 450 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: gecko on my television in my living room right now. 451 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: You know that. No, no, no, But I mean I 452 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: don't If I wasn't watching you, I'd probably be watching 453 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: like some YouTube video some dudes in Cambodia building some 454 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: fake mud cave or some shit. I don't know, but 455 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: but I mean, yeah, I appreciate you. You appreciate people 456 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: for a lot more than just being a face, you know, 457 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: and and you know when you're out there, you got 458 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: time to reflect on life a lot because I I 459 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: mean I was on I was on the scat team, 460 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: which is like the small cal I ran into the 461 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: gun when they said run to the gun. And when 462 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: you go through like straight, it's incredible, though. You know, 463 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: you go through like the Straits of Gibraltar, which is 464 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: you know, the mouth of the Mediterranean to the Atlantic. 465 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: You know, like Perseus sailed through that ship, Hercules sailed 466 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: through that ship. Some of the greatest people in history 467 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: have sailed through that. And I got to sail through 468 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: that or go through the Suez Canal. I got I 469 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: got to sail through Egypt, you know, or I got 470 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: to go through the strait of horror moods, you know. 471 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: And I mean, and I'm not touting that for like 472 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: a respect that thing, but like, but like no one history, 473 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: you know, I like history being my passion, you know, 474 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: to get to see you know, I went into the 475 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: Black Sea and I got to see, like I got 476 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: to sail past I mean, granted it was during COVID times, 477 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: so I mean it actually no, that kind of made 478 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: it better because I got to see things like unimpeded 479 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: by like stupid tourists. And granted I didn't see them 480 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: as a tourist, but like, you know, people hate Americans 481 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: because where there's just we're just a tourists of the world. 482 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: But if you can see things as that, you know, 483 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: objectively and not just being like hey, am I in 484 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: the way right now? But you know, it was surreal 485 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: to see a battlefield where so many people, you know, died. 486 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: I mean not not being like, oh that's so cool, 487 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: but like these these like the Australians went to fight 488 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: in this battle because England said, hey, the Crown needs 489 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: you guys, and you gotta go. And these guys had families. 490 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: You know, these were sons, fathers, brothers, husbands, and you 491 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: they they went. 492 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel like, does that inspire you in some way? 493 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: Like this idea that these these guys, you know, they 494 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: they try, they fighting for something greater than just themselves 495 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: and their family. What does that do for you? 496 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of I guess part of that's 497 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: kind of the reason I joined because you know, I 498 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: I so when I was in high school. You know, 499 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: all my friends they're older brothers. Uh Oh. I grew 500 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: up in southern New Hampshire, and southern New Hampshire is 501 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: not a great place to live. You know. I grew 502 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: up like like twenty minutes outside of Lowell, Massachusetts. If 503 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 2: you know anything about that I grew up. Anyone from 504 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: New Hampshire knows Manage Vegas and shit that it's dirty, 505 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: it's gross. People work hard and they don't make a 506 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: lot of money. So I wanted to leave man and 507 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: and uh I wanted to go do something great. And 508 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: you know when I was when I was a kid, 509 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: I had this weird obsession with World War two. So 510 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 2: when Band of Brothers caught my interest and all, you know, 511 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and you see these guys like fighting 512 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: die with no care for they have no regard for 513 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: their life. Yeah. 514 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 515 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: And but and at the end of it, and I 516 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: and I found out why why no one? You know, 517 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 2: it's because when you're in the military, when you're gone, 518 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: all your friends ask when you when are you coming home, 519 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: When are you coming home? When are you coming home? 520 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: And you get home and none of them come see you. 521 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Huh. 522 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: And then and it was it was, and it's it's 523 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: kind of sad. And then, you know, I mean ship, 524 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: I had a fucking jeep wrangler. I had a I 525 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: had a nineteen ninety nine jeep wrangler. Yeah, and I 526 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: drove that from North Carolina to New Hampshire every chance 527 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: I got, just to go see my friends, and none 528 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: of them would come see me. I mean they would 529 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: all fluff it up, be like I mean, actually, no, 530 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: I can't say that my I got one. I got one. Buddy, Joey. 531 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: He's been my He's been my fucking big dog. He's 532 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: been my big dog since like first grade. 533 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: What tell me about God, tell me about Joey? What's he? 534 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: What's he like? 535 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Joe is my second brother, man? 536 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what's what do you What do you think 537 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: makes you guys so close? 538 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: H we we I mean ship? We lived life together, 539 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 2: so I know you know what makes us so close? 540 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: Tell me is we met? We met in first grade, 541 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: the first day of first grade. And he he was 542 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: born in North Carolina, so his parents were he grew 543 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: up in a military family. And if he ever sees this, 544 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: he's gonna beat my ass for spelling his ship. But 545 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I'll smake his stupid face. 546 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: But but but so he grew so he grew up 547 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: in a military family. Yeah, and and so he moved. 548 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: He moved to New Hampshire the summer before first grade. 549 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: And so we met the first day at first grade. 550 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: And my last name starts with an M and his 551 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: last name starts with an L. So alphabetically, we just 552 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: happened to sit next to each other. Yeah, and we 553 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: just we we just hit it off. And then it 554 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: just so happened. On the bus ride home, Joey is 555 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: two streets up from mine, Holy ship. But now me 556 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: and Joey, Me and Joey are hanging out. And you know, 557 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Joey's parents got divorced and he didn't have he he 558 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: didn't have an easy life growing up. You know, Yeah, 559 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: I I had it. I I like to think I 560 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: had it hard, but I know, I don't. You know. 561 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: We all go through our own ship. You know. I got, 562 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I got my own ship. I 563 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: got a I got, I got, I got a lot 564 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: of shit, you know. I And but but Joey had 565 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: it hard. Joey had it hard earlier than I did, 566 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: you know. And and it doesn't get easier. That's what everyone likes. 567 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: That's what everyone sadly finds out is they get older, 568 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't get easier now. 569 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: And did did that? Was that the case for you? 570 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: You felt like it didn't. It didn't really get easier 571 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: as you got older. 572 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: My my life was pretty easy until I had about 573 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: eleven years old, and then out of the blue, I 574 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: started having like all these digestive problems. I got like 575 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: really sick, Like I missed like forty five consecutive days 576 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: of school. I was just a quke and I was 577 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: really really sick. But anyway, back back on, Joey gakin 578 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: not to not to back, but no, Joey's a Joey's 579 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: a good dude, you know. And and if Joey didn't. 580 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: Joey lived a hard life man, and his parents got divorced, 581 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: and he didn't have a very stable home life at 582 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: his mom's or his dad. And then for a while 583 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: he had to he could only live with his mom 584 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: because he couldn't live with his dad. And eventually he 585 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: just started crashing to my house, you know, and we 586 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: took him in, like I like, I took him in. 587 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: He was my best friend, and just inherently my parents 588 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: took him into and I got I got good parents, 589 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm I I'm not as thankful as I 590 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: should be for my parents. You know. 591 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: Are you still close with your parents? 592 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: Not as close as I should be. 593 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Do they live in the same place as you? 594 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: No? No, So I live in Maine. So I I 595 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: you know, I joined the Marine Corps, I left New Hampshire. 596 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: I came back, and then I came. As soon as 597 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: I came back, I was quickly reminded of why I 598 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: left a lot of it's a bad, bad heroin problem 599 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: where I grew up a lot of heroin, a lot 600 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: of coke. I mean, I mean, you know ship, you know, 601 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: you grow up around it. You know, it's life, and 602 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: uh yeah. So I was quickly reminded of why I 603 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: left in the first place, and so I started fishing 604 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: around for jobs and I was like, yeah, well I worked, 605 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: so back on Joey. Joey hooked it up. Joey hooked 606 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: it up as soon as I got so So Joey, 607 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: Joey's like the ship dude. Like, Joey sent me mail 608 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: on deployment. Joey's my only friend to send me mail undeployment. 609 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: My parents and Joey sent me mail undeployment. Mhm, my 610 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: parents and Joey. I got, I got a brother, my parents, 611 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: and Joey sent me mail on deployment. 612 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: So I want to go back to one thing real quick. Yeah, 613 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: because you talk because the reason we were talking about 614 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: Joey is because you were like, you know, the sad 615 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: thing of it being in the military is that you 616 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: go off. 617 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: Oh, Joey was always there. Joey's Joey was always there. Yeah, 618 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't mean to trail off. No no, no, no, no, no. 619 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: What what what? What I'm what I'm curious about is 620 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: because you said that you go off into the military, 621 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: everyone's like when you coming home and you get back 622 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: and know what's hanging out with you. Do you feel 623 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: like that experience kind of gave you the perspective of, like, oh, 624 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: these people, even if it's just Joey and mom and dad, 625 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: these are the true folks, you know. Did it give 626 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: you more perspective on like, I know what is. 627 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: I know who's real. I know who's real in my life. 628 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: I know who's in my life. You know, I got, 629 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, my parents and my brother and Joey, who's 630 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: my other brother at this point. 631 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got. 632 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: My parents and my siblings and the guys that were 633 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: on that boat with me. H, that's it. That's it, 634 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: because we're the only ones. I mean, because I mean, 635 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: I can't. I don't even know why I feel like 636 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: I can talk about this. I feel like it's because 637 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: I know I'll never meet you, But I don't know 638 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: if you if you ever come to New England, let 639 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: me know, if you ever come to Maine. You got 640 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: a spot in my house, dude. 641 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: But uh, well, well tell me why do you feel 642 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: like why do you feel like you never thought you 643 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: could you could talk about any of this stuff with. 644 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 2: My parents, I mean with Joey. It's different with Joe 645 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: I mean Joey used to drive down to North Carolina. 646 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: He used to. He used to drive down just to 647 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: drive back with me. We used to just we used 648 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 2: to just I mean ship. 649 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: And I like Joey d he seems like a fun Joe. 650 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 2: Joe Joey's a real fucking dude, you know. And Joe 651 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: Joey's like, Joey's my best friend. Dude. If Joey died, 652 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 2: I'd fucking shoot myself at his casket, dude, Like like 653 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: like like, I dude, I dude, if anything, I I will, 654 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: I will harvest someone's soul from their body. If to 655 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: try and fuck with that, dude, like I I I dude, 656 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: I will sky rim enchant, cross bow your ass. Dude, 657 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: Like I don't give a ship, I don't give a fuck. 658 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: You don't funk with Joey, But like, yeah, that dude, 659 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 2: he's he's the realist person ever. And so he hooked 660 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: it up with a job. When I got out and 661 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: we were working, we were plowing snow together, and uh 662 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: it was good. I mean ship, I mean deck. Did 663 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: you grow up with a snow? 664 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 665 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah I grew up with there was snow, so 666 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: you know how it works, you know, you know, you 667 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: know how it works. It's feast or famine with the 668 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: plow drivers, you know. Yeah, yeah, so you know you 669 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 2: get you know, fuck, dude, you get a storm. Dude, 670 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: you're out in that truck for seventy two hours. You 671 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: don't get out of the fucking driver's seat. You piss 672 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 2: in a bottle, you eat McDonald's takeout, and you drop 673 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: your blade on the pavement, you push that snow. 674 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Well, you were on a boat for five months, so 675 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: I feel like a truck for seventy two hours. It's 676 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: got to be nothing for you. 677 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, time is time is irrelevant to me. 678 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: You know. 679 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, shit, I've died twice. I know when it's kind 680 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: of you know, it's not like I'm not scared of 681 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: it anymore, you know all dude, honestly, it's I know 682 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: this sounds crazy, but dude, after that car accident, I 683 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: was so comfortable before I woke up. There's the disembodied 684 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: voice that said, it can all be over you. But 685 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: if it's, if you don't want it to be, you 686 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: just wake up. Oh ya, wake up? And it was 687 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 2: hard to wake up. It's like when you take ni 688 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: quill and your alarms going off. But it's like, oh fuck. 689 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: Now with the near death experience, it's funny you said. 690 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: I feel like there's there's two kinds of things, like 691 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: a near death experience could either make you more cautious 692 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: and more like not afraid but careful the opposite. I 693 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: can't die. 694 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a ship, and I mean, here's why too. 695 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: You know, I know how, I know how it's gonna feel. Well. Shit, 696 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 2: I don't fear death. I'm not a fan of pain, 697 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not. Pain isn't my favorite. I'm not 698 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: scared of death. You know, it's crazy I do in 699 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: the military. I didn't even almost die from anything cool. 700 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: In a car accident and lightning. I mean, I guess 701 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: lightning is pretty cool. But all my friends have heard 702 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: it so much. The novelty is gone. I mean, I shit, 703 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: I haven't even told my parents. I tell my mom this, 704 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 2: and I see your eyes tear up and I get worried, 705 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: so I don't even continue. I just say, oh, yeah, 706 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm just joking, and I stuff. 707 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: But no, it's just. 708 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: You know, death, That's what I tell my because I 709 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: don't want her to worry about me. I have a 710 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: lot of friends. I have a lot of friends that 711 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: either oh dad or you know, self checkout. You know, yeah, yeah, 712 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 2: but you know, but like I said, that's just that's 713 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: just you know, his his the way things are. You 714 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: got to take it in stride. Mm hmm. But uh yeah. 715 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: Your friends that you let me ask you this, Your 716 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: friends that like back from where you were, that that's 717 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: self checked out or got addicted to drugs? What do 718 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: you think think? What do you think led them to that? 719 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I mean ship, there 720 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: was there was one after after high school. His parents 721 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: found him in his closet and I I don't know, 722 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 2: I don't even know what led to that? Hm, why 723 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: old me and him? He was like he was, he 724 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: was I'm not going to say his name a case, 725 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, I don't out of respect. Yeah. Yeah. But 726 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 2: when I was when I was sick back in like 727 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: sixth grades, I was eleven. When I was sick, I 728 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 2: missed a lot of school and a lot of kids 729 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: made up a lot of rooms. The rumor mill is 730 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: the rumor mill cuts you know that what. 731 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: What what rumors did they make up about you? 732 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: Dude? Dude? It was wild. It was wild. I was here, 733 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 2: I was eleven years old. Dude. Kids were like, oh, 734 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: he's got age, he's got herpes. I meanwhile, I don't. 735 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 2: I don't even you know, you know, fuck, anyone who's 736 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: got a cold sore in those herpes isn't going to 737 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: make you sick for forty five days. But ship, I 738 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: mean not. But but at the same time, the rumor 739 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: mill wasn't even nice to me, Like I mean, destruck 740 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: by lightning thing as a testament to my luck in 741 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 2: that regard, But like, the rumor mill wasn't even nice 742 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: to me because like there were like, no like hot 743 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: girls coming up to me. Rady, are you okay? Do 744 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: you have cancer? Oh my god, you'll kid. No, you couldn't. 745 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: You couldn't even milk. You couldn't even milk the fake 746 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: cancer that everyone thought you had. 747 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: No. I couldn't even I couldn't even milk the fake leukemia. 748 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't even do that. No, it was like, well, Randy, 749 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 2: we heard you like throw up a lot. What's that about. 750 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 751 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 2: My stomach produces too much acid. 752 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 1: So so okay, So so before we go to the president, 753 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, to the president. Well, what were you gonna 754 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: say just now? 755 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, so but but the one of my one 756 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 2: of my friends. 757 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: That yeah, you're talking about. 758 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: He was one of the few kids other than Joey 759 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 2: who who you know, didn't buy into the room though. Mmm, 760 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean ship. You remember when like World 761 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: that Wore zombies was a thing, right, me and Joey, 762 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: Me and me and Joey were cutting it up on 763 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 2: the rock back in like the No, dude, we were 764 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: doing it, bro, we were doing things different Joey. Joey's 765 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 2: a fucking real one, bro. But but and then, but 766 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: my I got another buddy. I won't say his name, 767 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: but I will say his uh. I guess you know 768 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: his his uh his Mark Twain if you will. His 769 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: pen name was blog, you know, and all the boys 770 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: loved blog. Blog had a blog, had a van and dude. 771 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: So we used to have these wild Halloween parties, you know, 772 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: and it was it was we used to go. They 773 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: were nuts. I mean it was they were irresponsibly dangerous 774 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: Halloween parties. Damn near Project ex style Halloween parties. I 775 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: was like, I mean, did you grow up where there's 776 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 2: a lot of drugs? 777 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: No, like like I mean like pot and shit. 778 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean like yeah, so I mean 779 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 2: like I mean pot, I mean, you know, smoking weed. 780 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: You know, that was that was normal. That was normal 781 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: for like a twelve year old where I grew up 782 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: to be like, oh, yeah, you want something, you want 783 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 2: to buy something. 784 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: But what but what was what was so crazy about 785 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: these Halloween parties? 786 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 4: Oh? 787 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 2: The Halloween parties? All right? So dude, no, it was 788 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: like so, I mean, I don't even care if this 789 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: motherfucker finds out. I'll clap his ass if he shows up. 790 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: But uh, Dean Sheen. There was one party. Dean Sheen, 791 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: this guy, I don't even know what happened. He's like, 792 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: he's like, uh, I think I think he just faded 793 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 2: into Dustin Thanos snapped or some shit. But Dean Sheen, dude, 794 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: so I was at when was this two thousand and 795 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: fourteen Halloween twenty fourteen. I showed up dressed as a 796 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: banana and at this party and his big field. If 797 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: anyone grew up in New England, you know how basement 798 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: parties work, in field party and woods parties, well this 799 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: is like, you know, anyone who grew up in like 800 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 2: those weird like drug infested rural towns understands, you know, 801 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: basement parties and shit. So it was one of those 802 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: weird like you know, everyone's gonna show up. We're gonna 803 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 2: just drink crazy amounts of alcohol. We're gonna have an 804 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 2: unreasonably large fire. A couch might go in it, who knows. 805 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: But you just do a lot of drugs. Yeah, you 806 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: just dude, like fuck. 807 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: So it happened with Dean Sheen. 808 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: So Dean Sheen showed up out of the woods one night, 809 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: like out of the fucking woods. Dude rolls like, we're 810 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: all sitting by this fire, and you know, we're pretty faded. 811 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: It's like twelve thirty one o'clock in the one, yes, 812 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: and we're all sitting by the fire. Dude, we're feeling 813 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: pretty faded. Right. We hear this like cracks stumble shit 814 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 2: in the woods and then everyone's like, oh shit, who's 815 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: got a gun? It might I mean, I grew up 816 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 2: in New Hampshire. It might be a bear. It might 817 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 2: be a moose. And it's Halloween, so it's the rut. 818 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 2: So like a moose, it might kill a group of teenagers. 819 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's he's swerved up on Josequerevon and Horny. 820 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 2: He's ready to go. So Dean Sheen comes rolling out 821 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: of the woods instead of you know, and he goes, yo, 822 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: well suck and we go Dean, what the fuck are 823 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: you doing here? And he goes, I don't know. I 824 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 2: kind of just came here from Londonderry. And we said, Dean, U, yeah, 825 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 2: Londonderry's the other way and he goes, oh fuck, Well, anyway, 826 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: anyone want. 827 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 4: To buy acid? 828 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 2: And and like four dues just got up and started 829 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 2: dropping tabs assid. 830 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 4: With Dean Sheen in a tent. 831 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: It's like, we're just wild shit would be happening at 832 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: these parties, dude, And like you can't even like you 833 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: can't even fathom it, dude first, like I did. So anyway, 834 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 2: so b Log is at this party and he had 835 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: this like old like Dodge van, the kind of like 836 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 2: the French doors in the back and he had shag 837 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 2: carpet on the inside with a futon and we called 838 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: it the slam Van, and dude, the slam Van, dude, 839 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: it was just a vibe. Dude. It had like we'd 840 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 2: dam out like Aerosmith and led Zeppelin and ship dude 841 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 2: and we'd just vibe and smoke and chill. And then uh, 842 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: one Halloween, it was another Halloween party, my grandfather died actually, 843 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 2: and I told my parents and I was like, hey, 844 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to go to this party. My mom like 845 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: looked at me, and my mom's cool. My mom, my 846 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 2: mom gets it. And she was like, hey, dude, you 847 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 2: need to do call me if you need to come home. 848 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: And it's a good mom, all right, good mom. 849 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: My mom's a fucking gangster. Dude, My mom's my mom's 850 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: the ship. But anyway, so me and Blog, you know, 851 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: we'd it was me, Blog, a few other dudes. There 852 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 2: was probably seven of us and we'd chill. Dude, we'd smoke. 853 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 2: But but you know, my grandfather died and he was 854 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: like my hero. You know. He was in the Army 855 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 2: during the fifties and he got out and he started 856 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 2: his own construction company and and he lived a hard life. Yeah, 857 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: and and you know when when he died, you know, 858 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: my friends were all there and well, I mean they 859 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 2: weren't there when he died, but they were there for me. 860 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: They were there for you. I feel like you have 861 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: but you have a good cat. Like I'll say this Randy. 862 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: You have a good cast like you b Log, Dean 863 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: Sheen and Joey. Good guy. I would definitely hang out with. 864 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: You guys and do people people? Do you want to 865 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: know how crazy my life is? 866 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: I have an idea of how crazy, yeah, people are. 867 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 2: People are more apt to believe a lie about my 868 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 2: life than the truth. But crazy crazy ship. 869 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: Well so anyway, so so, so listen Randy before we go. 870 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't need to soak up 871 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 2: all that time. I mean, I oh no, it was no. 872 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: I gladly, gladly uh been marinating in it all. It's 873 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: been really fun talking to you for all this time. Man, 874 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing all this time. 875 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 2: Dude. I'm so glad. I'm so glad you I finally 876 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: got on the call. Dude. 877 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we we went all over the 878 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: place with this. I feel like we know a lot 879 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: about It's very funny you said that that people are 880 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: more inclined to believe lies about your life than the truth. 881 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: I feel like we've gotten a good perspective on you, 882 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: and you know, look, I want to just before we go. 883 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 2: Here, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, give me give. 884 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: Me uh briefly like your hope for the future. 885 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: My hopes for the future. 886 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 887 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 2: Uh, well, I mean I hope I've become a teacher. 888 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: I hope I don't get bored with being a teacher. 889 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, when I was little, I wanted to be 890 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 2: a farmer. So I hope I hope one day I 891 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: can get old and be a farmer and just be 892 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: left alone. Well, I hope everyone in the chat though, 893 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, listen, just because just because that line 894 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 2: says it's dude, don't don't just say, hey, the one's busted. 895 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: Wait your turn call again like everyone else has. Just relax. 896 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: Well, okay, well, Randy, let me say this, whether or 897 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: not you get bored of being a teacher, I very 898 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: much doubt that your students will get bored of you. 899 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate that, Gek. 900 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 901 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 902 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: No, that's really it. I'm just hey, I'm just glad. 903 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 2: I'm just glad I could talk to you. Dude. Hey, 904 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: I hope everyone here has a great night. Dude. That's it. 905 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: You take care, Randy, Thanks for calling, man. 906 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah you too, Gek. 907 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: That was that was That was a good h that 908 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: was a good call. I feel like that was a 909 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: good cast of characters. We got fucking Dean Sheen. You know, 910 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: at first I was like, oh no, he docks Dean Sheen. 911 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: But we're look, we're not going to find Dean Sheen. 912 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: There's no way that's his real name. I don't he's 913 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: not on Facebook. We're not finding Dean Sheen. And if 914 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: you do find Dean she give him my number. I'd 915 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: love to talk to him. Dean Sheen, Joey d Log. 916 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: What an honor would be it? A hop on hop 917 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: on world at war zombies with those guys and pretend 918 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: like I'm in fifth grade again. Thanks for calling, Randy. 919 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 4: Call from Jackson Dean, Hello, Hello, how are you. 920 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 2: Doing good? 921 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: How about you doing all right? What's going on with you? 922 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 923 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 4: Just doing some reading, listening to the stream. 924 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: What are you? What are you reading? 925 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 4: It's a it's a paper about timber driven piles. 926 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: Paper about timber driven piles, well. 927 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 4: Driven timber piles. It's for a foundation support that I'm 928 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 4: doing for a building. 929 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: You sound like a You sound like an adult. 930 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm an adult man, I'm only twenty four. 931 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 1: You that you you the way, reading a paper about 932 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: timber support for a building that you're working on is 933 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: is the most adult thing I can think to do. 934 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 4: Okay, So this kind of leads into what I'm calling 935 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 4: it about because I'm in a situation where I have 936 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 4: my dream job and I love what I do. I 937 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 4: have fun every single day, except for it puts me 938 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 4: in a bit of a moral dilemma because in my job, 939 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 4: I kind of take part in destroying the environment. And 940 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 4: I'm just like, not for that? 941 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: Is it? Because you cut down trees to make buildings. 942 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 4: Essentially, I mean not directly, but I'm involved with the 943 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 4: planning of like subdivisions and. 944 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 2: Buildings. 945 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so you uh are you? You feel 946 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: as though your job actively destroys the environments. 947 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 4: Right, But I'm big on protecting the environment, and I 948 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 4: feel like I try and do my part to offset 949 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 4: the bad that I've done. But I'm like, when I 950 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 4: work on projects, I just feel bad at the end 951 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 4: of the day about what I'm doing. 952 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: So you have your dream job, but you feel bad 953 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: about doing it? 954 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 4: Well, Okay, So I went to school to study asphalt 955 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 4: as like my first like that was that was like 956 00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 4: my passion in college and I got a job out 957 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 4: of college designing roadways and other asphalt associated infrastructure. It 958 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 4: soose like perfectly in line with what I wanted to do, 959 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 4: except for as part of doing that, part of my 960 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 4: job also is in the development business, I suppose. 961 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: M hmm, what what do you develop? 962 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 4: I so I'm a civil engineer, so basically just residential 963 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 4: and commercial structures. 964 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: Mm hm m m. All right, well you sound like 965 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: an adults. You you you destroy the environment like an adults. 966 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: Adults do that more than children do. 967 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 4: True, true, the environment. 968 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: What here's my thing that what is so great about 969 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: the environments that we need to not destroy it. 970 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 4: So pretty? That's the biggest thing. Is like when I 971 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 4: go out to these sites and it's like five hundred 972 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 4: acres of beautiful forests, and I know that it's just 973 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 4: going to be turned into two thousand houses in the 974 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 4: next five years, Like it just it doesn't feel. 975 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: Good, all right, Well, I mean people got to live somewhere, right, 976 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: or are are these like? Are are these like just 977 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: like super nice like rich people's like second houses type vibes? 978 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 2: Not? 979 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 4: Honestly, man, it's all just real estate investors who are 980 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 4: building like town homes and so it's not even like 981 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 4: like if it was like single family homes, like that'd 982 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 4: be okay, But this is just like income generation for 983 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,760 Speaker 4: people who are already wealthy. 984 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: Look, I'm only saying this because I'm an idiot gecko. 985 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 2: Dude. 986 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: It doesn't know anything about how the universe works. And look, 987 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to piss off gret Thunberg, but it seems 988 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: as though it is humanity's destiny to destroy the environment 989 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: and then get and then die and get fucked. You know, 990 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: if that was God's plan, then so so beia. We 991 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: destroy the trees and the air, and we kill ourselves 992 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: and then some then some, you know, billions of years later, 993 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: something else comes up. You know, there's those dogs will 994 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: still be running around and squirrels and bacteria and ship. Well, well, 995 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: the Earth will be fine without it, right because the Earth. Again, 996 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: this is coming from a guy in a gecko costa, 997 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,959 Speaker 1: the Earth created humanity, and so it really the Earth 998 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: fucked itself in a sense. I don't know how scientific any. 999 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 4: Of that was, but no, I mean, like everything kind 1000 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 4: of destroys its surroundings in like one way or another. 1001 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but that's the nihilist, that's the nihilistic approach. 1002 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: That's that's the easy way out, which I you know, prefer. 1003 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 2: So. 1004 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to save me, I mean, 1005 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: do you cow? What do you care? 1006 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 4: I feel like it's my obligation to care. But then again, 1007 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 4: like I also do care? 1008 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: All right, that's good. Well, I then I then I 1009 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, what else can you do? 1010 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't really know if there's 1011 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 4: a solution here. I just felt like I had to 1012 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 4: tell somebody because I feel like if I tell other people, 1013 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 4: they just will accuse me of not or I don't know. 1014 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 4: I just felt like I had to tell somebody who 1015 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 4: wasn't involved directly in my life. 1016 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh, you think they'll tell you that you're an asshole. 1017 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 4: I think they'll tell me I shouldn't have pursued the 1018 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 4: career that I did. If I'm going to feel like this. 1019 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: Well I that's, by the way, a legiti, that's a 1020 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 1: legitimate thing to tell you. I mean, if you feel 1021 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: horrible every day, I don't know if that's a great 1022 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: way to live. 1023 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 4: Well, but I have yeah, yeah, but I have fun 1024 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 4: every day? Is the problem? 1025 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: You have? 1026 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: You have fun? 1027 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 2: Feeling? 1028 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: Why? 1029 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 2: What? 1030 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: What's making you have so much fun. 1031 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 4: It's just like challenging work in a in a way 1032 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 4: like try Like, yeah, I don't know. 1033 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: It is a challenge. It is a challenge to cut 1034 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: down that many trees. 1035 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. You got to be efficient cutting down trees, 1036 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 4: for sure. 1037 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what what else are you going to do? 1038 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: What else do you? Is there any can you do 1039 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: anything else? What do you what are the what are 1040 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: the alternatives? 1041 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,959 Speaker 4: Well, so, like, part of the reason I got into 1042 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 4: asphalt in the first place was because asphalt is the 1043 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 4: most recycled component in construction in the world. It's more 1044 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 4: asphalt is reused every year than is created, And so 1045 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 4: I got I got into it for the purpose of 1046 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 4: trying to preserve our footprint on humanity and trying not to, 1047 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 4: you know, worsen the effect that we've already done. But 1048 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 4: I've kind of sidestepped my way into this. 1049 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: Position, dude, because why do you just become an accountant 1050 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: or something? Why you seem distressed? 1051 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can never become an accountant, though. I don't 1052 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 4: know how those people do it. 1053 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 2: That's it. 1054 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: Probably they destroy the environment too. They use a lot 1055 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: of paper. 1056 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 4: I think most of the things are emails nowadays, Oh. 1057 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: I become Listen, clearly you have some sort of desire 1058 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: to fuck up trees and stuff, so you could become 1059 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: like a paper accountant. 1060 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 4: That could be your niche I did used to do 1061 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 4: lumber jack sports in college, and so I got a 1062 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 4: I got a knack for chopping down trees. 1063 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: Okay, was this helpful at all? 1064 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 4: I feel like it was good for me just to rant. 1065 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: I didn't. 1066 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 4: I wasn't really looking for a solution. I'm just looking 1067 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 4: to looking at a rant at somebody. 1068 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: That's good. 1069 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah it helps. 1070 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: Hey, look enjoy I mean, and go out into the 1071 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: forest and look at enjoy it while it lasts. That's all. 1072 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the maximum amount of time you 1073 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: could enjoy anything for. So I go out into the forest, 1074 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: look at the trees, and then when it comes time 1075 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: to destroy everything and die, then just in your heart, 1076 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: be like, all right, this was destiny. 1077 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, take take it, Take it in while it's still there, 1078 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 4: before it all gets turned into something visions. 1079 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1080 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we. 1081 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 4: Go, No, I appreciate the stream and keep doing what 1082 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 4: you're doing. 1083 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate you man. Take care later. Ah, I 1084 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: don't know anything about the universe, but I'm trying. 1085 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 3: Never Beacon goes on the line, taking your phone calls 1086 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 3: every night. 1087 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Never Beacon goes. 1088 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 4: Doing his eye. 1089 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 2: He's teaching you Cloud on your line. Monday's not friendly, 1090 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 2: an expert