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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily where it's officially mock season. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal here and the Chris Westling podcast studio, joined

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Speaker 1: by my friend Nate Tice of Football three oh one

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Speaker 1: at Yahoo Sports and their big board over there and

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Speaker 1: the mock drafts over there, and we got you on

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Speaker 1: the hoof doing a mock draft today. Welcome Nate.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I love it. They're great exercises, they really are.

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Speaker 2: It's nice practice for the draft because then you start

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Speaker 2: realizing why things break a certain way. So yeah, as

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Speaker 2: the mock turtlenecks go away, the mock drafts come out.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of just what's going on there.

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Speaker 1: You go. It's right. It's the first mock draft in

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily history. It might be the last one of

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Speaker 1: this draft season. I don't know if we'll do another.

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Speaker 2: Before smash in the bottle on it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the last week a couple of days before

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Speaker 1: the draft will do We'll try to. We'll drop one more.

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Speaker 1: But uh, but the process of going through it what

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Speaker 1: was interesting, Like I don't have to know one hundred

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Speaker 1: plus players like like you do. You're in draft season,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of feel for you. It's it's another time.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a crazy time of year

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I relate. You know, I don't get as fully

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Speaker 2: deep as you know your guy DJ and probably and

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Speaker 2: Dane Brugler, but I'm probably like a half step below that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm getting up on that kind of Tom Hanks

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Speaker 2: and castaway look like. That's where I'm getting there. I'm

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Speaker 2: getting there. But that's how you know it's April. That's

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Speaker 2: how you really know it's draft seas.

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Speaker 1: You wear it well. So as as a guest, we're

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Speaker 1: going to go back and forth. Yeah, it's natural on

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Speaker 1: you a real football guy. By the way, you had

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Speaker 1: to I'll mention it when we talk offensive lineman. But

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Speaker 1: love that episode you did with your dad Mike. That

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Speaker 1: was especially cool. But we're going to keep it simple.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go back and forth. I've given you the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick, which means you have all the

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Speaker 1: odd numbers. There's no trades involved, We're we're not doing

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Speaker 1: anything like that. That that seems it just seems silly.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's just start with the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 1: You have the Titans and how I viewed it, and

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Speaker 1: I know this is a little late to tell you this.

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Speaker 1: It was just like what you think they should do?

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Speaker 1: We did. I don't have information on what they're gonna do,

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Speaker 1: not really, there's a couple of little things floating out there.

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Speaker 1: But I know more like, uh, if Nate Tice was

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Speaker 1: in the front office like he was back in the day, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, what would you want to do? So you

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Speaker 1: up the Titans, You're you're up first, just.

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Speaker 2: Five tiers higher than what I was. All right, so

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Speaker 2: but then we go No. I I like doing mocks

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Speaker 2: that way anyways, because I also like thinking of the

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Speaker 2: exercise of like where they where teams are at and

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Speaker 2: kind of just get into their mindset like kind of

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Speaker 2: also the most fun thing about analyzing sports just I

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Speaker 2: told you so, you know you kind of get into

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Speaker 2: get into that. Sorry, you know, it's like I used

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Speaker 2: to gamble. You know, I can't now because I'm a

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Speaker 2: fellow employee with the NFL network. But it's just you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you know it's not about like the money it was.

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Speaker 2: It's just about being right. And I think that's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the website of that is you just hate

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Speaker 1: being so wrong, Like I couldn't accept when I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: When I used to bet before I came here that

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Speaker 1: it would just bother you and you understood the math

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Speaker 1: of it all. That being right six out of ten

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Speaker 1: you really thought you were going to get one and

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Speaker 2: So I just especially when you really got a solid one. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: it's been brutal for So that's the ironies. I live

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Speaker 2: in Vegas and don't tamble, but it's just the It's

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Speaker 2: as I've learned, though, is when you're sports mean, it's

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Speaker 2: okay to be wrong sometimes. But anyways, long story short,

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Speaker 2: number one pick Titans going with Cam Woord quarterback. I

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Speaker 2: this line a few times. Is this draft is really

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Speaker 2: starting to feel like the twenty nineteen draft where Kyler

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Speaker 1: And You're right. The longer the process went, the more

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Speaker 1: I was flummixed why he wasn't talked about like a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback prospect in the first place, especially for a

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Speaker 1: it just seems obvious, even even if there weren't Steve

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Speaker 2: Was trying to avoid it, but that's that's kind There's

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Speaker 1: I see far too. I see far too. Like I mean, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just the way just better better like scrambler than he

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Speaker 2: And I was like saying, like, trait wise, he like

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Speaker 2: I've really like, I like word a lot. He's I

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Speaker 1: That's the number one thing for me too, is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe kN Kyler is a good good comp in terms

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Speaker 1: of where does this guy's career go, Like he's adding

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter. Ultimately, I just feel like you're if you're

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take them because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: there they absolutely need. I don't even care. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I want Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: He's just a special type of player, and just get

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Speaker 2: him on your roster and just like okay, fun and

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Speaker 2: we just like that's all we are you're doing right now.

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Speaker 2: I think they shouldn't chase quarterback here at all, considering

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Speaker 1: Right. It was just making the choice and I didn't

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Speaker 1: taking Travis Hunter because you have Greg Newsom and Martin

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Speaker 2: Now, Oh god, man, this is the sexual.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this can't be a surprise if you're already saying,

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Speaker 2: But I think it's because I've gotten lazy and not.

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Speaker 2: But I think the last few uh, I've gotten to

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Speaker 2: lot of people go Brown's Aduill Carter and then Giants

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Speaker 2: go Travis Hunter and it's just like, all right, what's

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Speaker 2: number four Patriots? Oh this is a fun one, right.

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Speaker 2: back like Hunter would have been a lot of fun here.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go I'm gonna duel Carter, who I

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Speaker 2: think is a very good prospect. Do not agree with

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Speaker 2: the G word usually ever, but with Carter, I think

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Speaker 2: is a very good one. Hadnth had some strength, I

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Speaker 2: compared him to kg B former Packer's Edge Wow, remember, yeah,

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Speaker 2: why I don't consider him like that elite to lead

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Speaker 2: elite prospect like I do Travis Hunder at corner and

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Speaker 2: Carr is a very good prospect and just skim him

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Speaker 2: on this roster. I don't know. I think I'm still

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Speaker 2: optimistic on the Giants defense, especially with the additions they

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Speaker 1: I can't say I was like grinding k KGB tape

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Speaker 1: back in the day in two thousand. I was in

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Speaker 1: college at the time. Actually probably the years I was

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Speaker 1: least connected to the NFL, just because social life.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was like, right, my introduction was during

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Speaker 1: But you never would have been able to tell me that,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty plus years later he would be known

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Speaker 1: better as Akbar's brother. So that that's KGB. Now. I

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Speaker 1: like that pick too. You just got to take You

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Speaker 1: got to take the best player quickly. Do you like

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Speaker 1: him better than Aidon Hutchinson coming out of college Abdull Carter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, But I like Hutchinson. I thought he

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Speaker 2: got kind of knocked. There's actually a couple of guys

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Speaker 1: Awesome right, Because if you're including Ward in it, you

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. I like Walker a lot. I actually

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Speaker 2: That's exactly who he's good at. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: You could I if there was a wide receiver that

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Speaker 1: And you got Godwin and Evans right there for you

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Speaker 1: Right, maybe the twenty four tape he was playing through injuries.

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Speaker 2: then I start picking up after the season, usually for

430
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: article purposes, start pulling clips. Wrote about love Tyler Warren

431
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 2: from Penn State, who was my tight end one on

432
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 2: my last big board, Loveland right behind him. I watched it,

433
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 2: and I think Loveland is clearly above Warren as a

434
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: tight end prospect. After studying six games and trying to

435
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: really look in the stats and everything, Loveland is a

436
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: true upside as a wy tight end, meaning in line.

437
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: I don't love taking tight ends early, but I think

438
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 2: his floor is high for a twenty one year old

439
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: tight end as a rookie that already shows it. It's

440
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 2: not just you know ideas, it's not projection that he

441
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: can block in line but also split out and be

442
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: a true weapon as like a I would you know,

443
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: maybe not the alpha receiver, you know pass catcher, but

444
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 2: if you haven't paired with a guy I don't know

445
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, that's a great little pairing and great little

446
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 2: synergy that they can work off each other, can attack

447
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 2: all three levels. He's a good route runner, already already

448
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: mentioned that he's young, a good frame, he's longer than Warren,

449
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,959
Speaker 2: and also I think already a better blocker, even though

450
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Warren's been kind of sold as a better blocker. I

451
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: think love One is already at his tier, maybe better

452
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: and projects better because he's young and long and so. Yeah,

453
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go call some level in here and

454
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: the Jets I've desperately needed some tight end help and

455
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 2: better tight end coaching. It's been one of the low

456
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: p atrocities in the of the last the last year

457
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: or two. Oh yeah, it's been one of the things

458
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: I can't anytime you watch the Jets, the tight ends

459
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: is their run game would be absolutely It was like

460
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: the Chargers the last few years. The tight ends were

461
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: so bad at blocking in the run game that that

462
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: crippled the run game more than the offensive I did. Yeah, so.

463
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: I like that too. The offensive coordinator Tanner Engstrom coming

464
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: from Detroit, so he gets his he gets his Sam Laporta.

465
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: They certainly want to use that middle of the field

466
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: in that type of offense. I keep saying it. I

467
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: think this Jets team has more than people realize. Not

468
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: like it's got to go to the playoffs, but especial offensively,

469
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: they're really just missing one spot on the offensive line.

470
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: But they got the rest of the draft to do that.

471
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: And if you're in a spot where you feel pretty

472
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: good about four spots on your offensive line, that's a

473
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: good place to go from. And they could certainly use

474
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: a weapon alongside Garrett. So Garrett Wilson, So I really

475
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: like that pick there. I'm with you. I think Loveland

476
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: versus Warrant, you just can see it easier. Tyler Warren

477
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: is such a unique prospect that I feel like I'm

478
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: not smart enough to quite know if that's going to

479
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: work or not, whereas Loveland, you just get it. I'm

480
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: going to make another surprising pick here before we take

481
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: our first break, the Carolina Panthers. And I was talking

482
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: about blue chip players potentially in this draft. There's only

483
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: like a couple, so I'm taking Hunter. I feel like

484
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: Will Johnson has a chance to be a true blue

485
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: chip NFL player, So I'm putting him on the Carolina

486
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: Panthers at number eight overall. I do, I know he's

487
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: not the athlete likely. They have their pro day coming

488
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks that some cornerbacks that

489
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: have gone this high are but in terms of the profile,

490
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: in terms of the twenty twenty three tape, and in

491
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: terms of the upside, they need defensive players they've set.

492
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: Dave Canallis has said it like we have to focus

493
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: on the defense, and I think of all the defensive

494
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: guys out there, he would be the guy that I

495
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: feel good enough about the floor and that I feel

496
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: has a real top ten worthy ceiling. So I am

497
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna go Will Johnson at cornerback to the Panthers.

498
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: You could pick any defensive player or like high end

499
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: defensive prospect here for the Panthers, Like yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, totally.

500
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: You know, like I get any guy here, So you

501
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: go linebacker, Jahad Campbell, you go edge. You know, I

502
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: mentioned mikel Williams or Mike Green or something like that,

503
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: but or corner. I'm with you on Will Johnson. He's

504
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: still a top ten player for me.

505
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: Check.

506
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him met nine. I think I'm gon

507
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 2: last big more nine or eight and he'll probably hang

508
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: around there seventy eight nine. I he's just smart, like

509
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: and it has great size for the position. The long

510
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: speed is the one thing that you know, his big

511
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: knock and his twenty twenty four tape wasn't overwhelming. He

512
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: battle an injury and some of that. Some people weren't

513
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 2: happy that he kind of more or less sat out

514
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: the season. But I mean, if you watch Michigan's quarterbacks,

515
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: you don't understand why, right, Oh my god, but I

516
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: really like him. He was my number one player at

517
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: the mid season point, is.

518
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: What I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's

519
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: what you want. That kind of player that would inspire

520
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: a guy like Nate Tice to have him number one

521
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: overall at some point.

522
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: He just knows how to use his body, Like his

523
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: body positioning is like very good, Like he knows how

524
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: to play corner and it's just that's why I like him,

525
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: Like I yeah, so drop him next to Horn and

526
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: that's like just a dynamic corner pairing, just a really

527
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: fun one. So yeah, I like Johnson a lot.

528
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: You got Trevin Morgan there at safety, but you brought

529
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: back Mike Jackson at cornerback. I mean, you don't really

530
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: have a slot player. You need a lot, you need

531
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: everything just about on that Dvinia, I would say you

532
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: really could use a cornerback and I think he fits.

533
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back on

534
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: the other side with the rest of the picks back

535
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily. If I was making a ranking of

536
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: current media people that at some point might get asked

537
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: to actually join a front office, I'd have to go

538
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: to I'd have to go with DJ number one. Jeremiah's

539
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: number one. He's in a big spot. I know what's

540
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: happened in the past. Yeah, and you know it's a pipeline, Mayock,

541
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: you know to the Raiders now that that spot's a pipeline.

542
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: But number two on that list, I think is Nate Tice.

543
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: So we are really, we are really putting him to

544
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: the test field. Yates would be a fun one, yeah,

545
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: but I just feel like they'll they'll look at Nate

546
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: and they'll say, okay, former former quarterback, this guy's really smart.

547
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: And so we're now putting what it would be like

548
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: if Nate was running sixteen different NFL teams. If you

549
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: were Mickey Loomis, what a world that would be? Who

550
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: would you take for the New Orleans Saints?

551
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: Aren't Bloch just do whatever I want. It's just because

552
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: I haven't shaved all week and I'm wearing a floppy

553
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: hat and you're like, yeah, you look like a scout.

554
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: That's exactly what you're going with. No, yeah, I figure

555
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: myself more of a pro scout anyways.

556
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: But okay, okay, you know same. That's why I do

557
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: the free agency list, I know, right, yeah.

558
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, safe circles here. You know, I want to

559
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: go with this guy, but I want to save it,

560
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: Like with McMillan there, I'm tempted with quarterback there. God,

561
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: they could do a lot. I've really squeezed Will Johnson here.

562
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: I know I'm supposed to go quicker, but I'm stalling

563
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: for time.

564
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: Memboo has a strong option. I think Saints fantas Now

565
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: this is one where if it really might divide whether

566
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: it's you running the team or them running the team,

567
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: because my personal opinion is they would be thrilled to

568
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: have the choice of Shador or Membo. But I don't

569
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: think you should do that. You need to do what

570
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: Nate wants to do. I'm by any time here. That's

571
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: what I'm doing.

572
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go with Memboo because that's where I

573
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: was kind of leaning anyways. But it's just also the

574
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: thing they don't have regime changes, so it sounded like

575
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: Mickey loom the new GM is going like well, chev Penning.

576
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: You know, It's like right, Mickey Loom is still there.

577
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Memboo just because, yeah, I

578
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: might as well. Just this is what they've done in

579
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: the past, is built through the trenches. I know Sean

580
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: Paigne's not there, but just keep building through the trenches.

581
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: Get more talent up there. Put Penning a left guard,

582
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: I guess, h and drop this guy in a right tackle.

583
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: I really like Memboo. He is either I'm still trying

584
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: to decide if he is my O lineman one, but

585
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: he is either one or two for me. But I

586
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: really really like him. Think he can stick out of

587
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: tackle on either side. He could play left side as well.

588
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: I haven't really gotten this pairing though in the past,

589
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: but I think the Saints could do really anything. And

590
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: I'll just not be ahead and go yep, that makes sense.

591
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's going earlier and some I think Saints

592
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: fans have this one in their head. If they don't

593
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: get Okay shoulder, I think they would love this outcome. Now,

594
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: the more typical Mickey loomis move would be to pick

595
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 1: up fifthier option for Trevor Penning or even give them

596
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: an extension, just like make it seem like it was

597
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: a good DRAFTO. Yeah, but Membo would I think make

598
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. All Right, I got the Bears

599
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: now and Will Campbell's off the board, and so I'm

600
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: actually gonna switch places. And now Ashton Genty is the

601
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: Chicago Bear, and I just think if the top two

602
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: offensive linemen are off the board, it's maybe a little

603
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: early for Gray's abel not crazy. I actually was thinking

604
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: about Loveland here and you already took him. I think

605
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Ashton Genty to the Bears would be a great pairing.

606
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: You support your young quarterback with a strong running game

607
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: and we fly. You need weapons however they come, and

608
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: he would absolutely be a weapon for them. No, I

609
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: like it.

610
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: I think Ben Johnson's not making any mistake of like

611
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: what he's all about, and especially with the offensive line

612
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: and no half measures with it. And I think you

613
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: know this is the same team that as Gibbs. He

614
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: doesn't really like Swift. I'm just reading tea leaves. And

615
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: also I think they're for sure taking a run back somewhere.

616
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I've been curious which one day actually pull the trigger on,

617
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: because I think there's a lot of fun potential fits there.

618
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: Right, Tavon Henderson or Marion Hampton would be interesting fits.

619
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Whether in the first or second, who really knows, but

620
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: but I think if Gent was there, I think it

621
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: makes sense. All right, you got forty nine ers number level.

622
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Oh Man, I've been usually doing offensive lineman for them. Actually,

623
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: one I have kind of come around with is maybe

624
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: they go edge and they you know, get a little

625
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: juice across from Nick Bosa and I for me Man,

626
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: actually I'm gonna go with Mikel Williams. Actually here this

627
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: is a little rich, but I'm going to go with

628
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: him here and this is more a I wasn't gonna

629
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: go Mike Green. Actually, I was setting this all up

630
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: to say Mike Green for Marshall. BO know, Mikel, because

631
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 2: I just think his I think Mikel's floor is as

632
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: a plus run defender, average pass rusher. Now I'm saying floor.

633
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: I think that he's very young, he is going to

634
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: be a very good run defender, potentially elite type of

635
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: run defender with a I think a secondary pass rusher,

636
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: but has potential to tap into more like Montese sweat

637
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: you in the league kind of status in the league.

638
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: I think that's the that's what mikel could achieve, you know,

639
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: kind of the you know, the big chunk of like

640
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: what his potential could be or likelihood. But yeah, I

641
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: go here. And I also think that works really well

642
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: with Nick Bosa because of what Bosa brings to the table.

643
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: And you know, it could be a little pass first,

644
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: pass rush first and second and third before defending the run,

645
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: you know. So I think that just could fun little

646
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: synergy inject a little real talent into his defensive line

647
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: room as opposed a bunch of retreads and Day two picks.

648
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah there. I think it's such a huge need for them.

649
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: I would say it's their their biggest if I had

650
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: to choose one. I know they have Nick Bosa there,

651
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: but this is a team that wants to operate a

652
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: certain way. And I think Robert sala is getting there

653
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: and he's thinking he got back and all I've got

654
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: is Jordan Elliott at defensive tackle and like Kevin Gibbings

655
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: and it could be a pass rushing defensive tackle. But

656
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anyone to take here or

657
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: gross Matos as the other edge opposite Bosa. It's like, no,

658
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: give me a big guy.

659
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: You look at the roster and you start going like

660
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: huh yeah. For me, in forty nine ers, it's automatic trenches.

661
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: It's defensive line or offensive line. That is, like if

662
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: they go in any other position, I am going to

663
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: be like, really, Derek Harmon would be the defensive tackle.

664
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at here for Oregon, which I have

665
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: mocked them in the past as selecting here.

666
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: See you're you have so much experience here, like I

667
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: usually mock them here, but then sometimes do them here.

668
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: This is my first mock, so be gentle on me.

669
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are up next. I do think this

670
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: is where you take a chance on Tech McMillan.

671
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: Actually I game this one up.

672
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: There aren't like a perfect wide receiver prospect in this class,

673
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: I guess, unless you count Travis under and want to

674
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: see him there. But I think he would be a

675
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: fine compliment, certainly to Ceedee Lamb. A different skill set,

676
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: a type of skill set they they have liked there,

677
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: like a like a much better Michael Gallup. Uh, you know,

678
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: before the before the surgery and Dak's gonna Dak's gonna

679
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: make it work. It seems like a pick that they

680
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: would make. Tyler Warren actually seems like a pick that

681
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: they would make. I just could can imagine that on

682
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: draft night. To me, Jake Ferguson should not be stopping

683
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: you from doing it. But I think Tech McMillan's a

684
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: bigger need, uh, a better fit and a premium position.

685
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: So let's go with him to the Cowboys.

686
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cowboys only go after big ten tight ends, so

687
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: they got huge toys. They got two choices there right

688
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: at the top to pick from.

689
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Uh uh No.

690
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: I I really like this kind of pairing as I've

691
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: kind of really marinated on it. I also think Ceedee

692
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: Lamb and Tech McMillan they need a little bit more juice.

693
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: But that's why you have turpin. Uh. You know, they

694
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: keep kind of spread the spread the field. But I

695
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: I think, man, that's perfect synergy because he's, like you

696
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: just said, he's gallop. He's a true ex that can

697
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: move around a little bit. That's why I like him

698
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: a lot. And I always get kind of confused when

699
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: people mock or receiver to the Cowboys and it's a

700
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: slot guy. It's like do you guys know what ceedee

701
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: Lamb's good at, Like he's like he's the epitome of a.

702
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: Power Who would that be specifically that you see and

703
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: mock to them that you.

704
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: Don't Luther Burden, Yeah, you know, Golden makes sense because

705
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: or you know, even a mecha Buka is kind of

706
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: confusing to me because I envisioned him as a z

707
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: slash slot like power slot and you know, you could

708
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: do some two man game with him in CD, so

709
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: that was not crazy, but maybe some more j two

710
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: guys like a Luther Burden.

711
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: True or false, you came up with the phrase power slot.

712
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: I I maybe popular popular realized it. I definitely think

713
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: I stole it from a guy, a coworker with the

714
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Falcons who used it, But I definitely, uh, I will

715
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: say I took it and ran with it because I

716
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: thought it was just a perfect phrase.

717
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: That's solid. That's like an important thing to do as

718
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: a media member is have little things like that, like

719
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: you're giving back to the community. I think I think

720
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I was the first one to do hold in And

721
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: now that that you know, you can't really claim hold in,

722
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure like Holden, there was there was

723
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: one other one over the years. But holden, I'm I'm

724
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: calling his mind power slot is yours. Forget that former employee,

725
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a microphone. Let's go of Miami Dolphins next.

726
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm going with and I don't even have to look

727
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: because I I this rosters so well now, because I'm

728
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: always just like, huh, this is what you guys are.

729
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: Malachi Stark's safety from Georgia, who's kind of dropped a

730
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: little bit, but I think this is the start of

731
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: his range. Really went into the season as a top

732
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: ten player for me, and I agree with some of

733
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: the dropage, but not maybe the full dropage. He's one

734
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: of those guys that his low lights make him look

735
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: worse than his actual play. Like he he's a guy

736
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: that gets dunked on as a tackler, Like he's a

737
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: really good defender that gets dunked on a basketball So

738
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, man, this guy keeps getting dunked on,

739
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: But when you watch him, he's actually really good defender.

740
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Malchai Starks's misstackles are really bad, but then when you

741
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: watch them, you're like, oh, he's a good tackler. Oh

742
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: he's actually like really good, Like body positioning and get

743
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: into the right spot and wrapping guys up in space.

744
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: And he actually is a little more juice to him.

745
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: He's he's very he's versatile, he can kind of overrun

746
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: some things. First little player as well. But if you

747
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: look at the Dolphins, they need guards and they need safeties.

748
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: That is like what their roster needs. The guards selections here,

749
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: maybe Calvin Banks or something like that. Zabel is a

750
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: guy you mentioned, Maybe I Josh Connerly from Oregon. Like

751
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't think Simmons from Ohio State is a guy

752
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: because if they add another injured player to their offensive line,

753
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: I will pull my hair out. So Malachi Starks just

754
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: fills in need for him and a very good player

755
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: or a good player, I should say bring some versatility too,

756
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: you know, because that coohu's in his last year. I

757
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: think then he's the slot player there. Soin Starks can

758
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: play some slot as well.

759
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: A great defender that gets dunked on. So he would

760
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: be the Derek White I would say of the NFL potentially,

761
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: because Derek White has led the NBA in blocks from

762
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: among guards three straight years. He's great at it. He

763
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: has blocked a ton of like setters at the rim.

764
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: But he always tries. So if you're always trying, you're

765
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: getting ducked on sometime, but you still get you still

766
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: get on the second team All NBA. My son's favorite

767
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: player got him a jersey when they won the title.

768
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: I said, they had to win the title, so you

769
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: had that little thing. Great player. They need defensive tackles.

770
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: I could hear their their fans screaming, especially after they

771
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: didn't get Khalays Campbell back. So who knows could could

772
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Kenneth Grant go like that high? I don't think it

773
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: would be that crazy, But not for the Dolphins. In

774
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: this mock the Colts are going to take what I'm

775
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: going to just do. The one of the most common

776
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: picks I feel like in MOCKX going right now, Tyler Warren.

777
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: We talked about him as a tricky evaluation, but I

778
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: do think they just need juice and I do think

779
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: you have to have a really clear idea of what

780
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: you're going to do with this player, Tyler Warren when

781
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: you get him. And I could be wrong, but I

782
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: feel like Saint Stichen is a guy I would trust

783
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: to come up and actually have a vision to make

784
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: it worth it. Even if he wouldn't fit everywhere, I

785
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: feel like they could make it work.

786
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: Fitting in with the Colts, Yeah, Warren makes a lot

787
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: of sense for the Colts. And that's what I kind

788
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: of came to conclusion. I came to my articles like

789
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: I like loved one for just about everybody. Yeah, while

790
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Warren is more like he has to go to certain

791
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: spots he needs either a blocking tight end with him

792
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: to free him up, you know, a guy's you know,

793
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: so like certain teams like that made more sense to me,

794
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: like the Seahawks, maybe even the Chargers. But and the

795
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Colts made sense to me because, like you just mentioned

796
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: with Stike in schematically how he uses his tight ends.

797
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: He's not asking him to be a you know, kick

798
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: ass blocker in line. He's doing a lot of RPOs

799
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: where they can kind of be freed up and just

800
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: be truly receivers and everything. So and Warren can do

801
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: some dirty work stuff. He's better on the move as

802
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: a blocker as opposed to inline blocking big dns. He's like,

803
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, a good linebacker blocker and good safety blockers.

804
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: So I actually like this fit with the Colts, And

805
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: there's other receiving options to kind of story. He doesn't

806
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: have to be a number one or high end number

807
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: two guy right away. Also, also my comparison for him

808
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: is Dallas Clark, so it makes even more sense going

809
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: to the Colts.

810
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're trying to be a basketball team a receiver,

811
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a couple of power forwards there now,

812
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, Michael Pittman, you got, you got some size,

813
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: you got some juice with down to Mitchell. Yeah, it's

814
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, it's a big group. You got the

815
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: Falcons another big offensive weapon group. Although I don't think

816
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: you're going to add to that.

817
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Maybe no, even though they just sent sentenced or mentioned today,

818
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: I think Arthur Blank that they might add to their

819
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: offensive line group, which is just they need defensive line

820
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: bad that maybe maybe even inside linebacker as well. They

821
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: need a lot this Falcons team. But I man, is

822
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: this the you know what I'm gonna give them, Mike Green.

823
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them what I who I think is

824
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: a you know, they would never touch him in real

825
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: life because character concerns, but I would I and this

826
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: fantasy booking fan fiction that we're doing in this mock draft,

827
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: I am having Mike Green go to the Falcons. Since

828
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't know Obama second term, they have needed pass

829
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: rush help and Mike Green has a lot of high

830
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: end juice. He also was productive last year at Marshall

831
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: seventeen and a half sacks I think off the top

832
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: of my head. But also when he played high in

833
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: the competition like Ohio State, he was still playing well

834
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: and dominating and showing up. Also think, you know, he's

835
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: maybe a little limited against the run because of his size.

836
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: We'll get overwhelmed by bigger, stronger tackles. But he plays

837
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: really hard and he has potentials being disruptive against the run,

838
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: but maybe not efficient, if that makes sense. Explosive against

839
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: the run, but not efficient, Like we'll get taken out

840
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: of place. He can get overwhelmed, but then we'll get

841
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: a TfL and knife inside, you know, and get a

842
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: TfL to kind of make up for it. Boom busts

843
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: against the round maybe, but against the past. Think that

844
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: at worst he is a high end number two okay,

845
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: but I think he potential to be an ACE really

846
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: but he could be a ten sac guy like season

847
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: and season now because he has that passer us potential.

848
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they need a high end two. They

849
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: need a high end three, they need a one. They

850
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: need it all. It's been a while, and so I

851
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: actually think they're in a good spot for this edge

852
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: class because I feel like they would take the same

853
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: player at fifteen that they'll if they had the seventh pick,

854
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: that they probably would take. But they're in a spot

855
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: where they probably will have their pick of a few

856
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: different options, and they're going to really like the pick

857
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: that they that they have and they'll they'll all start

858
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: going off the board around now if they haven't already. Cardinals. Man,

859
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: I could see a lot of players fitting with the Cardinals,

860
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: but I just think Johad Campbell is such a nice

861
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: fit in that defense where you're asking him to do

862
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: a few different things. Maybe the only off ball linebacker

863
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: in this class that is going to be expected to

864
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: start right away. Kaiser White still hasn't been sign which

865
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: hurts my heart. He's just sitting out there in free agency,

866
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: even though is his defensive coordinator named his kid after him.

867
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know that that spot's pretty wide open,

868
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of needs that they have and

869
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: that they're not like screaming needs. They do need an

870
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker right now. And I just think that's

871
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: another versatile piece that they would like to add to

872
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: a defense and one that I think would know how

873
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: to use him to.

874
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I like front seven makes a lot of

875
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: sense here. They can go anywhere on defense too, and

876
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: not more not in like the Panther sense. It's like

877
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: they got a lot of like solid role player types. Yeah,

878
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: you know, Budda Baker also very good, and they're kind

879
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: of funky on the front end. So I like a

880
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: guy like Campbell because he can. Kimbell's awesome, just a

881
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: really good player. I've kind of really had him go

882
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: into the bucks a lot. But the same argument here

883
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: is because he can contribute against the ron. He's a

884
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: good run defender, he's good kind of ascending coverage player.

885
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: But he also he has some pass rush jues. So like, yeah,

886
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: defense like this that blitzes everybody in every way shape

887
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: or for him.

888
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, love it, right, And I was saying, like, you

889
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: can't just be worried about need, like they could absolutely

890
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: take an edge player, even though they have a few

891
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: more edge players. They could take a number of positions.

892
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: They could take an offensive lineman certainly, but you know,

893
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: you do. Look at the roster and right now they're

894
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: starting off ball linebackers are Mac Wilson, a Keem Davis Gather,

895
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: Michael Walker. Like, I don't right, there's two spots there. Although,

896
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: come on, bring Kaizier back, and I just feel like

897
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: I thought he was good last year. All right, a

898
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: couple more picks and then we'll take another break. You

899
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: are up with the Bengals.

900
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, to me feels like you just look

901
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: at four spots guards or defensive tackles and then you

902
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: kind of go from there. I have there's some other

903
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: spots I've kind of looked at for the Bengals. I'm

904
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: curious what you think, but I'm going to go with

905
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon here from Oregon. Just I love Harmon. He's

906
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: one of my favorite players in this draft. A high

907
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: upside comparison as a team Hicks, but just a guy

908
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: that contributes against the wrong contributes against the pass, is

909
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 2: not going to be that Oh my god, this guy

910
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: is getting were threatening nine to ten sacks in a year,

911
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: but more of that four to six sec. Guy can

912
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: play in any type of defense too, Like he's versatile,

913
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: he can he could be a one gaper he can

914
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: two gap. He lined up all across the defensive line

915
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 2: for Oregon, which is really cool. He'll play the nose

916
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: on one snap. He's like a d end on other

917
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: looks where they're twisting guys. I don't know. There's just

918
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: a lot to like with Harmon. And then he tested well,

919
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: so like that just put him over the top for me. Yeah,

920
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: really like this player. Like I'm closer to Graham than

921
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: maybe you know others do. And I just think that

922
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: this would be a great get for the Bengals because

923
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: they need this kind of like player that's going to

924
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: be a good player for them as opposed to an

925
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: idea or just another stop gap on the interior.

926
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: A Keem Hicks entered the league in twenty twelve, big dude,

927
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: difference maker, rare guy that I would say three different

928
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: organizations were like, oh, yeah, he was great for us,

929
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: the Saints, the Patriots, who was barely what he was

930
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: awesome with the Patriots, and then he had a long

931
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: run at the end of his career with the Bears.

932
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: And that is a great comp there. And if you

933
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: could if you could get eighty percent of a team Hicks,

934
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: I think you would be happy, right there. I have

935
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks at number eighteen. This one's tough for me,

936
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: but the way that the board fell, I think this

937
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: is the spot for Gray's Abel, the North Dakota State

938
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. It's got some versatility in terms of what

939
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: position he wants to play. They did have a you know,

940
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: a guy who played okay for them at center, Olawa Tommy.

941
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's going to be a

942
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: center here, but he might be following in your guy

943
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Graham Barton's footsteps of like, you know, played left tackle

944
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: all the smaller you know, but could move inside. But whatever.

945
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: He just seems like a first round player. And if

946
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the board, I probably wouldn't have gone

947
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know if they'll do it in

948
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: the first round or not. There's other good players positions

949
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: in need they could do it, but I think for

950
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: them right now where they're at, the need meets the talent.

951
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's worth taking this high

952
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: from everything I know, but I'm not the olignment expert.

953
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: Do you think this is too rich? Would Mike? Would

954
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: your dad think this was too rich for him? Eighteen? Overall?

955
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 2: No, I think this is kind of right where his range.

956
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 2: To me, I think he's an eighteen to thirty type player,

957
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, or just say back half of this first round.

958
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: That's much easier sixteen to thirty two. Why make it

959
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: tighter than I have to? I really like Zabel. I

960
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: was actually surprised my dad liked him as much as

961
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: he did, and he, of course considers him an interior

962
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: offensive linement. But he goes, of course, it's great when

963
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: in theory that you can bump him out the tackle

964
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: in a pinch, you know, it's great to see that

965
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: he can hold his own. But he actually brought it

966
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: up to me because I was like, I view him

967
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: as a center, and he goes, you mentioned that he

968
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: didn't play center in college, and I was like, no,

969
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: he played the other four spots though, right, And he said, well,

970
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 2: my developmental path for him would be guard first year's

971
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: center second year. And that sounds great for the Seahawks. Okay,

972
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: he's the left guard or right guard. I'm shoot, neither

973
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: one should preclude you from starting him. And then but

974
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm a I like ola Wa Temi. I really do

975
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: I think he saw it. I think he's you know,

976
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying top ten center, but like a fine

977
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: starting center, like you don't need to get a guy.

978
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: But then as things get better, you know, you weather

979
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: the storm. Zabel's guard, Okay, do we bump them the

980
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 2: center because we'd like this other guard better and YadA

981
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: YadA yah, but.

982
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: Or or even right tackle? Could he play right tack

983
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: because like Charles, Charles Cross is a left tackle. I

984
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: know they are hoping they get a healthier season out

985
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: of Abe looks, but you can't really, you can't count

986
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: on that we'll see. So, yeah, it's some flexibility, a

987
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: sneaky tight end team for me too. But yeah, that

988
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: was that was in the I wrote down tight end

989
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: potentially all right, Bucks, and then we'll do the Broncos

990
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: and then we'll take our last break.

991
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: Well, this is so hard now because I just really

992
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: have gone jaha Campbell here so many times, have Mike

993
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: on autopilot, I'm going to go. It feels like to

994
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: me that they could go a defen they want pass rush.

995
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 2: Tobbles already mentioned, hey, we need pass rush help without

996
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: me blitzing at the highest trade on third down that

997
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: we've ever seen, which which is actual fact. In the

998
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: second half of the year. They they're willing to take

999
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: chances on guys too. I'm gonna go with Schamar Stewart

1000
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: from Texas A and m Okay, which, even though I'm

1001
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: in charge of this is a little rich for me,

1002
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: you don't have to take I will because I understand

1003
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: the argument here for where the Bucks are at, what

1004
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: they kind of want to do. They always like kind

1005
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: of doing the Colossus of Rhodes, you know, one foot

1006
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: in the present, one foot in the future. I think

1007
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: Stuart's that type of player, being young, being a quote

1008
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: unquote developmental player, even though he's played a lot of

1009
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: high end football and he's not very productive. I just

1010
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: think I understand the bet on his traits, Like I

1011
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: totally understand that in the NFL is a trades league,

1012
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: Like you can't be a dummy to that and not

1013
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: expect some of these kind of what you maybe consider reaches.

1014
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: If you watch the film, Stuart's flashes are really cool.

1015
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: I also think he's blowing here over runs a lot

1016
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 2: of plays, and I'm.

1017
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: Just like, that seems bad. That seems bad. Yeah, I know,

1018
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I know.

1019
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: But again with the Bucks, when I'm running hit a

1020
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: little bit and begin him to think a little bit later.

1021
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: Maybe just that helps him out more of an aggressive

1022
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: defense where he can just slant and go and do

1023
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: those types of things. So going with the Bucks here,

1024
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: I just wish Campbell's st because that's a lot more

1025
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: more a fun fit for me. Have you have you

1026
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: any other thoughts for the Bucks for you, because I'm

1027
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: one of those teams that is always interesting to me.

1028
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: No, my thought was as a Roku, but potentially just

1029
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: a different edge option. Maybe that's too rich, but just

1030
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: I could see them him fitting kind of what they do,

1031
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: maybe a little more polish opposite asan Reddick. But no,

1032
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: they they sound like they want to go defense is

1033
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: the feeling that you get. But it could it really

1034
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: could be any position. He read Jamel Dean the Riot

1035
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Act publicly and that was a player he's believed to

1036
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: be very close with, So like cornerback could certainly be

1037
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: a pick there. They ever get tired of taking cornerbacks,

1038
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: so I could see that as well.

1039
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: Hey, they're on the best drafting teams.

1040
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Jason light he gets it done, dude.

1041
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: He's here's my jam of the year.

1042
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: Last year, an NFL Daily guest was it was a

1043
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: great guest, gave me the business all right before we

1044
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: go broncos Man. If they actually so, they probably will

1045
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: have these options too. It really does feel like they

1046
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: have to just draft a weapon, like and I don't

1047
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: think there's some defensive player that they just have to

1048
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: take at this point. So it comes down to mari

1049
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: and Hampton, who I am very high on as a

1050
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: running back that would be worth going in the first round,

1051
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: or Amika Abuca. And I think if it was my team,

1052
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: I would take Abuca. And I know he's not going

1053
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: to be your future number one, but I think there

1054
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: is part of me that and I'm the one running

1055
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: the team that still has that in my head that like,

1056
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: we can make this running game work. This is a

1057
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: deep running back class. I think it's gonna hurt, Maybe

1058
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: not Hampton because I consider him a pretty strong number two,

1059
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: but I think it might hurt like the Ohio State

1060
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: running backs of people just waiting because they just feel

1061
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: like this class is deep and like we don't need

1062
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: to force it in the second round here. But even

1063
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: I have that thought with Hampton, and I just want

1064
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: to get a wide receiver because I think they really

1065
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: could use one, and I know they're higher on their

1066
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: receivers than other and so I'm going to take a buga.

1067
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could totally see why Peyton would like Abuka too.

1068
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: He's he's like a coach's dream exactly.

1069
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: He loves smart players, he loves versatile players, he loves

1070
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: inside players, all it all works.

1071
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: I think he can be he is and he could

1072
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: be the power slot all the way, you know that

1073
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: that type of player. Yeah, I really like Abuka. He's

1074
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: my receiver too, and this is exactly where I think

1075
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: his reign should be. So they've kind of been for

1076
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: the Broncos, has been like a gent maybe a Hampton team,

1077
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: maybe a tight end team for some people. Yeah, that

1078
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: you know that's been popular in some circles, is right.

1079
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: And they have this idea that I know they have

1080
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram there, but that that's a short term, that's

1081
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: a short seria thing. And he's calling him like a joker,

1082
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, is Evan Ingram that I don't I

1083
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: don't know if he's.

1084
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: That Like the tight end evaluations are always interesting because

1085
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: he he likes, as we just mentioned, dirty work receivers

1086
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: and he likes he likes drafting lineman and then he

1087
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: always goes after these like finesse receiver tight ends and.

1088
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: He pairs them with like a blocking only guy, and

1089
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: uh yeah, maybe Abuca would be like a you know,

1090
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: a smaller power slot.

1091
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: Uh Marcus inverted inverted a little bit.

1092
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for some reason, Marcus Colston gets more

1093
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: player comps than just about anyone, and I'm glad for that.

1094
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we're gonna roll through

1095
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: the last twelve picks and I'm not gonna let Nate

1096
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: comments on my picks and vice versa. We're gonna go faster. Okay,

1097
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily Now, I feel like a jerk

1098
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: by setting up this artificial scenario we can't comment on

1099
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: each other's picks. Maybe it will just make it quick.

1100
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Nate loves this. I don't want to rob

1101
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: him of any quality time with me, and you really

1102
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: do love it. I would say that we were just

1103
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: talking in the break of like some good advice you

1104
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: got when you were coming up about learning the league

1105
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: that you got to know both sides. You got to

1106
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: know how players actually fit in the league, and you

1107
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: got to know how they fit on current rosters, which

1108
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: I think sometimes is a blind spot for some of

1109
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: the draft knicks out there. But the advice I would

1110
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: give and I don't need to give it to Nate,

1111
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: is you better love this. You better love this, Like

1112
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Nate says in the break how much he genuinely likes

1113
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: this exercise because it gets him thinking, It gets it

1114
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: like and when I talk to some people who want

1115
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: to get in, I was like, you better like really

1116
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: love the football side of it, not not the media

1117
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: side of it. Necessarily you need to love both ultimately,

1118
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: but you need the football part of it to carry

1119
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: you through the times when it feels like a little

1120
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: bit more of a that you'll always be able to

1121
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: go back to that. And I don't know if anyone

1122
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: loves ball more than Nate. I mean, I'll give it.

1123
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: I'll give it up to you.

1124
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: Which is the irony because like even when I was playing,

1125
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: I like the film aspect and like the scheme install

1126
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: more than like working out. Like no, like the midline

1127
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: side of it. I know, And yeah, there's a lot

1128
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: of that. There's a lot of people always come to

1129
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: me and go like, you know, I've realized I'm terrible

1130
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: with this advice. I've tried to get better when they're like, hey,

1131
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: what's like a key aspect to like getting better. And

1132
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, you just got to watch like you just

1133
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: gotta build a rollex in your mind. They're like, okay,

1134
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: so like what do you watch like everything?

1135
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that that's not a one size fit

1136
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: all advice, because I know it's you could just say

1137
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: for me, but there's so many different roles within the

1138
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: media that some people like watching a ton it might

1139
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: not really click for them or it might not be

1140
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: where what they need to do. But what I would

1141
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: say is, even if you're not that person, you still

1142
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: got to have the love of the football there. That's

1143
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: what I That's sort of what I mean that even

1144
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: if you're you're playing a different role and maybe you're

1145
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: not like it, you still need that love and it

1146
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: needs to come out in some certain way. And you'd

1147
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: be surprised how many people don't really quite have that.

1148
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: And then those are the people that fall off, even

1149
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: the ex players that are in there. I don't need

1150
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: to tell you this that the ex players, there's varying

1151
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: degrees of how much they love football. Some of them

1152
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: loved competing, but they really and some of them are

1153
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: extremely smart and went really far because they worked hard

1154
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: at football and we're smart about football, but they're still

1155
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: not that into it. There's somehow like a dichotomy that

1156
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, yeah, it's like I wasn't into

1157
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: watching other football, Like why would I care?

1158
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: That's it. It was like, hey, we're playing the Dolphins

1159
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: this week. I watched a lot of Dolphins, and I

1160
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: watched through the Dolphins played the last couple of weeks

1161
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: and then I'll never think about them again. And these

1162
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: are great players too, like they can be pro pro

1163
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Bowl players are like just saying scrubs.

1164
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: Right, it doesn't necessarily stop you. It's not a one

1165
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: size fits all. It's a it's a sliding scale of also,

1166
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: like hey, sometimes if you don't have the athleticism, you

1167
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: will need that extra work to catch up, which is

1168
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: how I view myself, at least in terms of the

1169
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: media part of it. So better, I better. We're working hard,

1170
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: all right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna make

1171
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: these last twelve picks. We can make comments about each other's.

1172
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: We don't need to just shut our mounds.

1173
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: There's red lights on behind it.

1174
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: But we're gonna do it at like a little bit

1175
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: of a pace to get out of here. The Pittsburgh

1176
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: Steelers are picking twenty first. They are the classic stick

1177
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: and pick team. And right now I'm like the last

1178
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: person to realize this. A couple of weeks ago. Every

1179
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: everyone is on their original draft pick, which is just amazing.

1180
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: Right is that true?

1181
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, it was the first time ever or something

1182
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: like that's preposterous.

1183
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the NBA, where it's literally the opposite.

1184
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1185
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 2: Anyone through the notes of like the I got traded

1186
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: come up.

1187
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Second round in the NBA. I believe no one this

1188
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: is this is true. I believe no one took their

1189
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: original second round pick. I believe in the NBA, which

1190
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: is just oh no.

1191
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Don't look so you look at you, look at you

1192
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: like the same stuff, like little tidbits. I do. I

1193
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: love that kind I do.

1194
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: It seems crazy, it seems absolutely crazy.

1195
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah no, that's just yeah, you're right. Of course,

1196
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: some career got traded. I would say each one got

1197
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: traded more than once. Oh no, one one only got

1198
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: traded once? Yes, what I mean they have to come

1199
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: up with a different word. Portland Trail Razers selected to

1200
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 2: pick thirty four from Charlotte via New Orleans to Oklahoma

1201
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: City to Denver traded to New York.

1202
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: Second round picks in the NBA are crazy, they're they're like,

1203
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: they're like it saying they're like NFL sixth round picks.

1204
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: But if if like they were just half the guys

1205
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: international player, right, if they were just way less of them,

1206
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: and you can do it seven years out. I often

1207
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: think about how different the NFL would be if you

1208
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: were allowed to trade picks out As far as the NBA,

1209
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: it always seems crazy to me. Was like, well, I

1210
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: don't know if the Lakers like that's the best draft set,

1211
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: the asset they have the twenty nine first that they've

1212
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: been holding on too. I'm like twenty nine, like you're

1213
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you're three resumes away. Like imagine if

1214
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: you would allow teams in the NFL right now to

1215
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: trade to thirty and thirty one like the NBA, it

1216
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: would be absolutely insane.

1217
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Or that the NBA has rules named after owners trading

1218
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: away their picks too much, right, the Steppian roll right,

1219
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: because they trade away the Calves owner true away five

1220
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: or five first rounders in a row. So they said, yeah,

1221
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: you can't do that anymore. You can't trade first rounders

1222
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: back to back.

1223
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: Here I can. I can see like the thought bubble

1224
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: of of my producer Eric's head, which is bro you

1225
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: just came back to break saying you got to keep

1226
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: it quick one minute per and you talked for four

1227
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: minutes about the NBA. Well, now you guys can't talk

1228
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: about each other's picks anyway. You just use it all

1229
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: up on NBA draft knowledge.

1230
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: I do love the baseball televised now.

1231
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I also think it's crazy, and I always think

1232
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: about how easy would be if we had the NFL

1233
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: Draft a week and a half after the Super Bowl

1234
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: that they do this is great, that's that would be crazy.

1235
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: Or even the NBA. It's fun because it goes uh yeah,

1236
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: and do the draft and free agency.

1237
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: I think that actually makes sense. But the week and

1238
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: a half later, man, that would be crazy. As from

1239
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: a media said, all right, we're gonna do it twenty first,

1240
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: it's the Steelers. You're up.

1241
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go savone ravel Wow, okay, yes, Corner East Carolina.

1242
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: I think he's very talented. Yes he's coming off in ACL.

1243
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: Yes he is from a smaller school, but his tape

1244
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: is very good, some inconsistencies playing the run, but I

1245
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: think he's just the talent of him being a true

1246
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: outside corner type. I've compared him to Antonio Cormarti ooh,

1247
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: former Chargers corner who also came off in ACL, and

1248
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: my co host on Football three oh one, Charles McDonald,

1249
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: compared him to Dominique Rogers Cormarti, which we did not

1250
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: know about, which I thought was very funny. But that

1251
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: type of corner, long athletic, more tools e than polish,

1252
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: but polishing, especially for a small school guy.

1253
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: Love the Cromartes, Love that DRC had his moment in

1254
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: the Sun. I love that, you know, Antonio one of

1255
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: the weirdest up and down careers.

1256
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: I like that pitch.

1257
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: And yes, everyone check out Charles and Nate. They have

1258
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: a great draft coverage all year long on Football three

1259
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: oh one. Just do that for me. All right, let's

1260
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: go to the Chargers today. Barron's still there, right he is. Yeah,

1261
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: there's a few different players. Marion Hampton would make sense

1262
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: there too. I know it would be fun. Those are

1263
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: the two players that I like a lot that I

1264
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: also think fits what they would possibly want. But again

1265
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking if it was my team, I probably would

1266
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: lean Baron. I think I think he's a really good player.

1267
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: He's a rare player that I actually feel like in

1268
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: this class. I think he slipped a little. He's a

1269
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: good value at twenty two. So it's like at this

1270
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: class is almost like pick your poison between it's seven

1271
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: and third. But actually think he's a really good player

1272
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: that I could have taken much higher, and I would

1273
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: have felt fine about it personally. So I like him

1274
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: going to the Chargers, and they've shown they can coach

1275
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: up the secondary. Maybe it's not as huge a need

1276
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: for them, but they'll find a spot for him for sure.

1277
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Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, find a spot for him on this

1278
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: type of defense that's more of a you know, we

1279
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: talked about best five and abler offensive line. That's how

1280
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 2: this group views their DBS. You don't get their best.

1281
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: He's a best five enabler for DBS. I view Moore

1282
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: as a slot safety than a slot corner. That makes sense. Yeah,

1283
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: like that that type of hybrid. But I'd like this

1284
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: fit here and I think he could just be a

1285
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: lot of fun, especially with James and just just creative defense.

1286
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: This is a perfect type of fit for him.

1287
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: All right, you're up. You got the Packers who.

1288
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: You know, I know they like Harriston from Kentucky.

1289
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know what I'm gonna get.

1290
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: They need a bruiser, and I think they know that.

1291
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Kenneth Grant, oh Michigan, which is not

1292
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: one I've really done before, a pairing I've done before,

1293
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: but Kenneth Grant Packers has tools more than just a

1294
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: run player.

1295
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: I know.

1296
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: I just say kind of a ground you know. Burley

1297
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,959
Speaker 2: guy has the upside of that, but has some twitch

1298
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: to maybe after the passer more of is still developing

1299
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: as a player, but he has stretches that are as

1300
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: good as like anybody in this draft. That that's why,

1301
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he has potential to be the best defensive

1302
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: lignment from this draft. It's just more stretches and everything

1303
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: has tools. Packers love tools. He guys Devonte why it's

1304
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: been kind of kind of you know, Kenny Clark's kind

1305
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 2: of on the back side of his career. So pop

1306
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: this guy in, go next to my boy Carl Brooks.

1307
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: Make some magic there.

1308
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was gonna be my pick with the next

1309
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: selection Minnesota. And I did do homework for this I

1310
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: know they've added a couple veteran defensive tackles, but I

1311
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: think having a guy like him long term would make

1312
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I did do a lot of

1313
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: homework and I wrote down a bunch of options later

1314
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: in the draft because I knew i'd be scrambling. But

1315
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: this is the first time where all the options I

1316
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: wrote down are off the.

1317
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: Great picks first. Yeah, yeah, you really.

1318
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: You I took it away from myself. I'm not I'm

1319
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: not a fan of uh em and wary, so I

1320
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: just don't want to make a pick that either quite

1321
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: not here either, believe in I need your help here.

1322
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: You know they're not going to go is Walter Nolan.

1323
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: They're not going to go tackle. I think Walter Nolan

1324
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: can work here from Ole, Miss. Yeah, a lot of

1325
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: different opinions about him in the in the draft, you're lower.

1326
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: I do think they need some like long term beef upfront.

1327
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: And I know they signed Hargrave, but do.

1328
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: You want more of the defensive tackle plugger type or

1329
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: do you want more of the athletic, twitchy type. Because

1330
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: I like Williams from Ohio State. It's like a sneaky

1331
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: guy here. This is kind of the start of his range. Okay,

1332
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: and he's like he's early, and you know, we've got

1333
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: more athleticism to him, but his upside is like a

1334
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: true plugger.

1335
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's do that. I'm changing milk back for the

1336
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: first time because I've actually I've also heard people say like, well,

1337
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: Marian Hampton would fit perfectly in that scheme. It's like, yeah,

1338
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: but they just gave good money to Jordan May there.

1339
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: It's just nine.

1340
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make it. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

1341
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones ran they you know, they toy. They played

1342
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: footsie with ty Chandler all the time.

1343
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: To me, they were telling us we don't want to

1344
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: have to worry about running back in the draft because

1345
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: we want to go hard at other positions. So I

1346
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you helping me out. The vikings Koc is all about.

1347
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: He's not going to play a young back like I

1348
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: I could tell you if he's there for the next

1349
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: ten years, he's one of those guys that's only going

1350
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: to play VET running backs because they he just he

1351
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: has such a short lea ship appears just me just

1352
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: ringing between the lines when I watched them. He does

1353
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: not want running backstack back there that he can't trust,

1354
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: which is kind of funny because Aaron Jones was like that,

1355
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: but he's developed into an okay pass protector, but he

1356
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: was one of those guys that was bad in best

1357
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: protection early in his career. So it's kind of funny.

1358
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Every two minutes, I suddenly remember, oh, yeah, we were

1359
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: going to speed it up. You have the Texans, and

1360
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: then I restart some other conversation. It's it's fine. I like,

1361
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: this is the first time we've gotten through players like

1362
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: this at every position and thinking about need and think

1363
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: about teams specifically. So it has been a really good

1364
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: exercise for me too. So you're up with the Texans.

1365
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Josh Connerly

1366
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: here from Oregon offensive tackle. This is a guy I'm

1367
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: high on. But then my dad comes in and blows

1368
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: my hot take out of the water and he drops

1369
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: him as offensive lineman one. But that is with the Texans.

1370
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you just look at the roster. It's I

1371
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: think the third mandate is that they want offensive lineman,

1372
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: even if there's other positions like Golden here would make

1373
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. You know, the receiver from Texas,

1374
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: and I think this is the range for Gold and

1375
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable with him. That would make a lot of

1376
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: sense because I also like the synergy with him and

1377
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: Nico Collins. But I think the mandate that the Texans

1378
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 2: have for their entire offseason is offensive line. Offensive line.

1379
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: Offensive line. Cam Robinson does not procude you from right

1380
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: drafting a tackle that is a stop that gives you options.

1381
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: Get your best five out there, get the guys. What

1382
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: if the guy Connorway's a developing a sending player, you

1383
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: know he's not all the way there yet. I understand

1384
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: why my dad's highing. I'm high on them two, but yeah,

1385
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 2: that kind of gets you a nice little stop gap

1386
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: if you need it. By Connorwi could be that blind.

1387
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: He does look like an NFL player, And I think

1388
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: the Texans might have lucked out actually being twenty fifth

1389
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: because I don't know if the gap between the top

1390
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: tackles and where they'll be taken. But they might have

1391
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: a choice between him and Josh Simmons from Ohio State,

1392
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: which are a both long term possible high upside type

1393
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: of player. So I like that I got the rams.

1394
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: I was hoping that Shitarry Sanders would fall all the

1395
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: way down here. I think they would do it. I

1396
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: think they would do it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

1397
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: do it. Why not? I love it.

1398
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: I just was actually a good fit for him.

1399
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want a little spice, I think I think

1400
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: with the coaching that he would get. And look, he's

1401
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: had the same sort of coaching his whole career. The

1402
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: best that he looks is when he's on time, on rhythm,

1403
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: when he has answers. This offense will give you the chance.

1404
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to play right away. I could see it.

1405
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: I think they're definitely in the quarterback market in this class.

1406
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: And so.

1407
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: Even if I'm not in love with Sanders, now that

1408
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: it's fallen to me, I didn't have to give up anything.

1409
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: This feels like an okay spot for him, and I

1410
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: think it's a good fit for his skill set. So

1411
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ramshitter Sanders.

1412
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. After Ward, I consider the next group of quarterbacks,

1413
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: which is like six of them all day two dart throws.

1414
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: That's all I've considered them. But this is the range

1415
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: of when those day two dart throws, like, yeah, when

1416
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: people start throwing the darts.

1417
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: Way back in the day Lamar Jackson was kind of

1418
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: almost the day to dart throw. They had to trade

1419
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: back up to, you know, take thirty two.

1420
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: Few of them over there is Teddy Bridgewater was one

1421
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: of those two.

1422
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Right, which is crazy because you know they the Ravens

1423
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: took Hayden Hurst first. I mean, there's a whole I know,

1424
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: it's a whole alter universe where they don't get Lamar

1425
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: Jackson because the Patriots take them at thirty one or something.

1426
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: There were those rumors.

1427
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: That year Tom Brady was QB one on everybody's boards.

1428
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they took Yeah that's true, but I

1429
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: mean there was all that week you were hearing that

1430
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: maybe it was total nonsense, but they took Sony Michelle

1431
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: and he got his Super Bowl title. The Ravens are

1432
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: up for you.

1433
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Olamar Jackson, I'm gonna go Donovan Jackson

1434
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State, just going with Ohio steak guys. Yeah, guy

1435
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: that played guard bumped out the tackle a little bit

1436
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: after Josh Simmons got Heart, who you just mentioned actually

1437
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: had good tape at tackles, surprisingly good tape. But guard

1438
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: is where he plays in the NFL, has length athlessis

1439
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: and This is a team that loves their traits at

1440
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: all their positions. So now you get a guy that

1441
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: has those traits, but on top of it has good film,

1442
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: really good film. I would even say I love this

1443
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: range for him. I'm one of the higher guys on him,

1444
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: but this is very comfortable taking them here. They like

1445
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: their size on the offensive line. I think this is

1446
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: a long term starter for them. Don't want to say,

1447
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: what's the would you say at the beginning the offensive line?

1448
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: Safe pick? Yeah, not saying safe pick, but I think

1449
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: this guy has potential to be a good starter for

1450
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: a while and more actually, because he's so talented.

1451
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: He sounds like a Ravens pick, and I would is

1452
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: kind of locked in on Tyler Booker, uh the the

1453
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Beefy Guard as my Lions pick, because he just feels

1454
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: like a lion's pick. And I think they're gonna want

1455
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: to start building for the future that that lion is

1456
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: getting older. And yet the way the the boards fall

1457
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: into me, I'm thinking about Matthew Golden. They just made

1458
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: a comment how expensive wide receivers are. I don't think

1459
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: they're going to want to sign Jamison Williams to a

1460
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: long term contract. I think they're going to give him

1461
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: a fifth year option, so they're gonna have to start

1462
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: replenishing that room. And yet, I don't know what would

1463
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: you take between Booker and Matthew Golden for the Lions.

1464
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, Oh, I think Booker just feels like

1465
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think, but it's supposed to be what I'm

1466
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: gonna do. But I would too, because in this case,

1467
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: I'm running the Lions and I want to keep I

1468
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: want to keep the uh, the idea of what the

1469
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: Lions are all about the same falling.

1470
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: In love Lions fans based I just based this all

1471
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: off when I took clips about players and I see

1472
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: which fan bases are. You know, they all have the

1473
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 2: same thing. But a lot of Lions fans are smitten

1474
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: with Mikel Williams, who has been long drafted at this point,

1475
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: but they are very smitten Mikel Williams based on my

1476
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: Twitter feed.

1477
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could definitely see a second edge. I I's

1478
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: spaced a little bit on one available, you know it.

1479
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep his available. All right, Commanders, you're up.

1480
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: Who is available because they might need an edge? Is

1481
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: that your guy from Boston College?

1482
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1483
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's where I'm going with Donovan. Is a rockup?

1484
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: Is that how you say it? I think so as

1485
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: a rockup from Boston College, gonna go that they Vanders need.

1486
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: I think still the defensive help, even though we've got

1487
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: They've done a little bit. They they're their off seasons

1488
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: was very busy. But you know, they signed Javon kin Law,

1489
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: who I've had yet to be high on. That's a

1490
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: defensive interior guy who they say they might be an

1491
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: elephant edge as well. But I still think that they

1492
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: want juice on the outside. I think this player is competitive,

1493
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: which is what dan Quinn loves. Has some pass rush chops,

1494
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: He's long. He's not the tallest guy, but he's long,

1495
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: got some pass rush movement, a little stiffness. But I

1496
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: think just uh, you know, I think this is just

1497
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: a guy, know, no matter what, he's going to be

1498
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: a strong contributor.

1499
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: I wish I didn't give that away, you know, I

1500
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: gave you that pick there because that would be the

1501
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: perfect pick for the Bills at thirty. I would be

1502
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: quite high on Jayden Higgins and that would be an

1503
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: interesting guy to add to that mix. But it maybe

1504
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: is a little duplicative. Of Kean Coleman. I don't really know,

1505
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go Walter Nolan here

1506
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,799
Speaker 1: because I do think they're looking defensive line in general

1507
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: and put him with the Bills. It's the type of

1508
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: guy that they tend to like, whether that's always work

1509
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: for them or not. Like I could, I could see

1510
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: them going Walter Nolan defensive tackle Mississippi. We've got two

1511
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: picks to go. You got the Chiefs, I got the Eagles.

1512
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: What are the Chiefs going to do?

1513
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: I just think the timeline that they have, they just

1514
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: signed the guy. The Chiefs are going. Offensive line here,

1515
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm going I almost went tight end here, and what

1516
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: Mason Taylor almost? I just want to say I almost

1517
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: ended with a little splash, a little smoke bomb at

1518
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: the end. I really like Mason Taylor. But offensive line,

1519
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: I am going to go Josh Simmons over Banks. But

1520
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to go just because they want that left tackle.

1521
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: Andy Reid probably dreams about burgers and left tackles. And yes,

1522
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: they signed a guy uh to maybe be a stop

1523
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: gap there. But I think now they got a little

1524
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 2: bit of path or a little bit of leeway as

1525
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: Simmons comes back from his knee exploding, but very talented player,

1526
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: true left tackle, true upside of being a very good

1527
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: left tackle. Actually because of his athleticism, movement. Some character

1528
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: stuff has probably has cropped up, but the Chiefs do

1529
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: not care about character. Has been paying attention, so that's

1530
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: why I think they'd be comfortable with this. But yeah, Simmons,

1531
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, Ohio State.

1532
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately, that is that is exactly like that is

1533
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,480
Speaker 1: a Chiefs pick, which is all right, let's take the talented.

1534
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: Maybe there's some injury concerns, maybe there's some off field concerns,

1535
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: Like give me all your off field concerns if you're

1536
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's just it's just it's just how it

1537
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: goes they do. I will go Mason Taylor thirty two

1538
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: because to me, he is the natural Dallas Godder replacement,

1539
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: and I think Eagles fans were as they were getting

1540
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: ready for the drafts like, ooh, Mason Taylor would be

1541
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: a fun second round pick to replace Godder. I don't

1542
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to fall that far. I don't have

1543
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: any other options that I particularly like at thirty two.

1544
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just not as studied up as I need

1545
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: to be, and I do like this one because I

1546
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: think they want that sort of player. I think eventually

1547
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: he can develop like Dallas Goddter by the way, into

1548
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: a good enough blocker or even a good blocker like

1549
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: God or is God. It didn't come in as that guy.

1550
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: And so that's a position that you're expecting development. You've

1551
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: seen it from Taylor. The floor is high. Certainly is

1552
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: going to be able to play and be a receiver.

1553
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: And then you know, year three, year four, year five,

1554
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: you're hoping you get that nasty out of him that

1555
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: he reminds a lot of people of God her And

1556
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 1: it really sounds like God might not be on this

1557
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: roster next year, which is surprising to me. He might

1558
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 1: be part of a draft day trade. So that is

1559
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: how I'm wrapping up our first round. We did it,

1560
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: Nate Tice, did we? Yeah?

1561
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: Did we?

1562
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: We nailed it?

1563
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 2: We did Oh. I thought you were saying that we

1564
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: made it under a time a lot.

1565
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, No, we're we're over that. But we did it.

1566
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: We overhit, We finished it. We spent time together. First,

1567
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: My brains worked hard. Do I want to do another mock?

1568
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see. If we do, maybe get the

1569
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: whole gang together and we'll do one in the studio.

1570
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: We would not ask Nate Tice to do any more

1571
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: work during draft season. He's busy. In draft week he

1572
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: will definitely be extra busy. So I would not ask you,

1573
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, any for draft week though, Oh you will

1574
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: any NFL network work or not.

1575
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: It's Yahoo. But I'm trying to, like, you know, say hi.

1576
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: See what's over here. Yeah, that's interesting that Nate is

1577
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: not allowed to gamble on football anymore because he does

1578
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football hit what once a week? You know,

1579
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: three you know, So it's like there should be No,

1580
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: it's not, that's not true, but there should be Like

1581
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: you have to be a full time employee or you

1582
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: have to like put in forty hours a week or

1583
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: something like that. You're like, but I'm only doing like

1584
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: thirty minutes a we you know, an hour a week

1585
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: or something like that.

1586
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: No, it's the one dollar one dollar thinking you take

1587
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: one dollar of our money. Yeah, can gamble on sports.

1588
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 2: See I thought the rules changed that it was just

1589
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't gamble on football. You need to get Yeah, No,

1590
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: it's just sports. It sports again, which is why all

1591
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 2: coaches and everybody are addicted to horse racing.

1592
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: Which in the NFL, which makes no sense. Why why

1593
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: is that okay? And the answer is because one hundred

1594
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: years ago, like the owners owned a bunch of horses

1595
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: and you know even the Steelers back of the day,

1596
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: like that's how they got that money famously, Yeah, the

1597
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: Rooney is the Rooney Big day at the horse track

1598
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,839
Speaker 1: and then bought the Steelers quite an investment.

1599
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: Uh they they biff handed it they.

1600
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: Uh Nate. I always appreciate having you on again. Check

1601
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: out Football at three oh one. We will be back

1602
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning. Looking forward to this show. We're gonna

1603
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: be talking with Nick Chuck. We're going to talk some

1604
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: over unders are already out. We're gonna talk some offensive

1605
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: line and yeah, when I'm going deep, like comparing Mason

1606
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: Taylor to Dallas got her. Football is back.