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Speaker 1: On tonight's episode, Cameron Mabon, former centerfielder for your New

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Speaker 1: York Yankees, and we'll be talking about life after Sodo.

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Speaker 1: Can the Yankees actually be better in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: than they were in twenty twenty four and what pieces

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Speaker 1: are needed to put them over the top. Plus, is

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge about to go on a revenge tour in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and the Martian is going to be

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Speaker 1: taking over in the outfield, but things have been a

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Speaker 1: little bit shaky out there for him. Cameron mabn has

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Speaker 1: his advice. Next, this is Pinstripe Territory.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to pook? That's all.

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Speaker 1: All right? Welcome back, everybody, Welcome back, special late night

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Speaker 1: edition of Pinstriped Territory. Special guest tonight is the aforementioned

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Speaker 1: Cameron Mabon, who played with the Yankees in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Cam.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, man, man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, bro. It's been a good day.

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Speaker 3: Anytime we can talk Yankees baseball, it makes it a

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Speaker 3: little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Nice little nightcap, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Talking about what I'm saying, Man, I'm gonna after we

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Speaker 1: finish this podcast, I'm gonna have myself a glass of wine,

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Speaker 1: play some call of duty, and that's how that's how

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Speaker 1: you finish your Friday night.

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Speaker 2: My friend, you know what, I was locked in on

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Speaker 2: call of duty.

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Speaker 3: My kids have got me to switch back over to Fortnite.

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Speaker 3: So I've been locked in on Fortnite. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm not a team type of Fortnite guy. I'm a

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Speaker 3: But I do love call of duty, so I'm happy

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Speaker 3: to I gotta get your get all right.

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Speaker 1: Well we'll set that up. I'm I'm ruthless on there, man, though,

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Speaker 1: I hope you can hang all right.

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Speaker 2: I just I like playing for funn I don't claim

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Speaker 2: to be nice.

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Speaker 1: I just enjoy it, all right. So let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the Yankees. I wanted to have you

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Speaker 1: on tonight because you've seen a lot of baseball. You

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Speaker 1: have played parts of fifteen seasons in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: You know what it takes to compete, to build a

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Speaker 1: team that can compete more than just one or two

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Speaker 1: especially the top part of their order, was historically productive,

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Speaker 1: They're not going to have that luxury this year. They've

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Speaker 1: tried to build a better team, more pitching and defense,

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Speaker 1: Max Free, Devin Williams, Cody Bellinger, Paul Goldschmidt. My question

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Speaker 1: to you, as a former player, which team would you

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Speaker 1: have a tougher time gearing up for? The twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a tough question anytime you have you know,

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Speaker 3: Juan Soto, who is one of our generation's best hitters.

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Speaker 3: When you talk about controlling the zone and controlling and

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Speaker 3: And then you have one of our greatest power hitters,

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Speaker 3: But when you look at what they have right now.

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Speaker 3: I think Cash, uh, you know, in the past, has

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Speaker 3: making moves, not going out and you know, doing what

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Speaker 3: But Cash went out this year after not being able

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Speaker 3: I think Clark Schmidt has been you know, in in

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Speaker 2: And he still might be right now. But as of now,

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Speaker 2: I love that rotation. I think their bullpen has got better.

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Speaker 3: Arguably, I think Mark Lighter has I think Mark last

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Speaker 3: I think that fan base, I think the expectation. I

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Speaker 3: Hecklers if you make a good play. As an opposing team,

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Speaker 3: The Yankees fan base brings a certain type of expectation, right,

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Speaker 3: And I went through this. I felt it when I

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like do you? And for me,

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Speaker 1: Can I ti them in I've woken up. I've woken

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Speaker 1: that's like ten percent worse in everything, and it's still

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Speaker 1: you're gonna wear him down. And look what happened September.

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Speaker 1: He was running on fumes. He had nothing left in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think playing in right field where he's

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Speaker 1: come October. I think this is revenge tour season for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Do you agree?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Well, first off, which which toe don't you need? Like

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Speaker 3: which toad do you think is the most pointless toad?

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Speaker 3: Whichever one it is, take that one for me, and

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Speaker 3: I'll take that season, like you said, I would take

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Speaker 3: I like give me that season like I would have

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Speaker 3: gladly sacrificed that like for me, I could I completely agree, Direck.

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Speaker 3: I think, uh, one, what I know of my ex

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Speaker 3: of the most motivated guys that I've been around.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be extremely hungry, extremely driven, not only to come

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Speaker 3: But I believe that that Aaron Judge is going to

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Speaker 1: I keep telling people sixty three and seventy three are

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Speaker 2: Was that was my point. I forgot that.

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Speaker 3: My point was Wan Soto left and went over to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna try and remember that. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk a little bit about the Yankees' next moves.

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Speaker 1: We got a super chat here that I'll put on

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Speaker 1: Says huge fan Cameron, what do you think of the Yankees'

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Speaker 1: I'm really curious about.

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Speaker 2: On your perspective, Listen, why don't we have to bring

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I know that was from a tweet pissing people off.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know I'm one of those guys, and

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Speaker 2: Man. I just want everybody to be in a good move.

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Speaker 2: But I made a statement.

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Speaker 3: you said, parts of fifteen years in the big leagues,

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Speaker 2: What they really would have done would have done.

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Speaker 3: But I played with guys who had said, like, man,

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Speaker 3: screw that, like I'm not I will not cutting my

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying they should. I think it's nostalgic, right,

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Speaker 3: When that when when my agent called me and and, uh,

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Speaker 2: There's like a deal where.

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Speaker 3: It's essentially almost like the equivalent of a ten day

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Speaker 2: He's like, are you willing to shave?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, when you said Yankees, I start looking for

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Speaker 3: Like, So it's it's it's one thing to say that

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Speaker 3: So I think they should keep it the same. I

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Speaker 3: I don't think any player is actually tripping. But it's

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I think it's kind of

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my banker has blue hair. It's

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Speaker 1: like what people look weird now? Like whatever? Who who cares?

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Speaker 1: You know, like you don't have to be like you know,

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Speaker 1: You never know what the Rais are gonna do. They're

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be opposed to that if they really

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Speaker 3: I don't love it, but I just think I think

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Speaker 2: I think he is in his prime, right. I think

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Speaker 3: Of course Tanner Scott like right watching what they did

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Speaker 3: I know people are gonna kill me for this. I

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Speaker 2: His tools. I love his tools. I love his tools.

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Speaker 3: I worry about the defense a little bit. I do

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Speaker 3: think it can get better. Left field is very tricky

437
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Speaker 3: in New York.

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Speaker 2: They probably can go pull it up. There's probably a

439
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Speaker 2: clipping me. I bought a play one night. I saw

440
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Speaker 2: and I thought the ball I swear to and I

441
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Speaker 2: took a lot.

442
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Speaker 3: I was good outfielder man. I took a lot of

443
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Speaker 3: pride in my defen It kept me on the field for.

444
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Speaker 2: A long time.

445
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Speaker 3: I went down the line, I thought this ball was

446
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Speaker 3: going into the stands. I jumped on the wall end

447
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 3: up coming back it was. It was brutal. Bro Like,

448
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: it's the wind, it's the gap going to your glove side.

449
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Speaker 3: As a as a rity, it's difficult, right, And I

450
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Speaker 3: say that to say, Luis Robert has shown if he

451
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Speaker 3: can stay on the field, And I think, again, motive,

452
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Speaker 3: you're a little bit more motivated I think to play

453
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Speaker 3: in New York than you are to play in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I think he needs that type of motivation.

455
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Speaker 3: I also think the Bronx right with the Spanish culture,

456
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Speaker 3: you look at what Wan like, this stuff matters, Like

457
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Speaker 3: I think the Spanish culture too around the Yankees is

458
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 3: bigger than what people will understand. Like, I think it

459
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Speaker 3: would bring out the best in him. That dude is phenomenal,

460
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Speaker 3: Like for me, if they get figure out a way

461
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Speaker 3: and that and then that deal, that contract.

462
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Speaker 2: Like as far as when you talk.

463
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Speaker 3: About florids and ceiling Flord's and ceilings, his floor is

464
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: still a lead. Like I like, last year is a

465
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Speaker 3: mulligan for me. Bad baseballs contagious. It's extremely good taged.

466
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, bad baseball. It's contagious. Like I get it.

467
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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to have a good year on

468
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Speaker 3: a really shitty team. Even when you have good year,

469
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Speaker 3: it's like two sixty two, like you were the MVP

470
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Speaker 3: of the team and it was two fifty eight, and

471
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Speaker 3: it's like, you know what I'm saying, So again, a

472
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Speaker 3: guy like him, I think he is special.

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Speaker 2: I think his skills are off the charts.

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Speaker 3: And I think if you had a guy like Luis

475
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Speaker 3: Roberts and center Cody Bellinger and Aaron Judge, now you

476
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Speaker 3: got problems. You can figure out the infield, you can

477
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Speaker 3: figure out third base, you know what I mean?

478
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Speaker 2: I think? But I just I love his game.

479
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Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan, and he's shown that he can

480
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Speaker 3: literally take a game over.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's assume that the Yankees don't get Luis Robert Jr.

482
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Speaker 1: And that they stick with Domingus who is who is

483
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Speaker 1: their number one international signing. He's a switch hitter, loads

484
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Speaker 1: of power at four home runs in his first seven

485
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Speaker 1: games in the major leagues. Obviously hits well from the

486
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Speaker 1: left side eight eighty ops in the minor leagues last year,

487
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Speaker 1: but struggled defense, and as you said, struggled from the

488
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Speaker 1: right side. You know, what advice would you give to

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Speaker 1: a young kid who's, you know, maybe had some defensive

490
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Speaker 1: issues and is trying to come into his own in

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Speaker 1: the major leagues defensively while he's also still trying to,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, unlock his skills offensively. And also we have

493
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Speaker 1: enormous expectations for this kid. I mean, this is a

494
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Speaker 1: guy that I mean how I've been talking all winter

495
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Speaker 1: about what the Yankees need to replace Juan Soto, right,

496
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Speaker 1: and you've got to make up a certain amount of production.

497
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Speaker 1: I'll just put up a graphic here. I don't think

498
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Speaker 1: we have cam on the graphic, but you know we

499
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Speaker 1: see all the additions and subtractions. But the Yankees need

500
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Speaker 1: improvement from guys like Volpie Wells Chisholm, and they're counting

501
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Speaker 1: on Jason Dominguez to be like a big part of

502
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Speaker 1: the roster. I think the Yankees are probably counting on

503
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Speaker 1: him to hit twenty home runs and steal twenty plus bases.

504
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Speaker 1: What advice would you give to him as a rookie

505
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Speaker 1: first year in New York, all this hype, trying to

506
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Speaker 1: conquer the defensive side of the ball and trying to

507
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Speaker 1: mature as a hitter.

508
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Speaker 3: Okay, so let me I just want to backtrack, right,

509
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Speaker 3: I know, I just say what I said. Right, We're

510
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Speaker 3: just playing what if scenarios with Luis Robert Thing and

511
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Speaker 3: I will say this, I'm I'm a very transparent guy. Yesterday,

512
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Speaker 3: I was literally sitting down here in my little area

513
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Speaker 3: and I went, I started to tweet Jason de Mingez

514
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Speaker 3: is going to be an All Star this year.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't have the guts to tweet it. Yesterday,

516
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Speaker 2: I said, I started watching highlights and I started going.

517
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what, I'm gonna hold on to that tweet.

518
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold on to it.

519
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Speaker 3: I think he has the type of ability and just

520
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Speaker 3: being around him when I was covering the Yankees for

521
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Speaker 3: a shorter period, short period of time, he has a very.

522
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Speaker 2: Great pulse. It's it's, you know, at that age to

523
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Speaker 2: not be in all of the moment. He's just right,

524
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Speaker 2: He's just right here.

525
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Speaker 3: I was really impressed on how the moment it just

526
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Speaker 3: didn't seem very big for him. He was able to

527
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Speaker 3: slow the game down right. And I think I think

528
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Speaker 3: the Yankees are in a situation where they should just

529
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Speaker 3: get like, this is your year, right, And I like,

530
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Speaker 3: if you're the guy, I think he has to go

531
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Speaker 3: learn at the big league level, Like he has to

532
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: go get five hundred that bats, he has to go

533
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Speaker 3: and you know, see how these guys are going to

534
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Speaker 3: pitch him. You know, uh, you know, lean on the

535
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Speaker 3: hitting coaches to give him a great plan. But from

536
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Speaker 3: a defensive side, you know, I was fortunate enough as

537
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Speaker 3: a you know, drafted player to go into an organization

538
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Speaker 3: Detroit Tigers, and I was behind Curtis Granderson, and I

539
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: watched Curtis Grandison take a guy's job. Because Curtis Grandison

540
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Speaker 3: showed up earlier spring training before the sun was up.

541
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Speaker 3: He was you know, had somebody give him a short

542
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Speaker 3: fun go he was taking. He was getting extra work

543
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Speaker 3: on the field, not in the cases. Right, we all

544
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Speaker 3: want to work in our game, we all want to hit,

545
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Speaker 3: we all have to hit. But Curtis Grandison was the

546
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Speaker 3: first guy that I saw take a lot of pride

547
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Speaker 3: of his defense.

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Speaker 2: Just I mean extra work on extra work, on extra

549
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Speaker 2: work before the day even got started.

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, I'm not saying he doesn't work,

551
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Speaker 3: but I think it's a situation where he needs to

552
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Speaker 3: go out there, have somebody get.

553
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Speaker 2: The machine going, and you don't have to run them

554
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Speaker 2: all over the place.

555
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Speaker 3: So he's dog tired, but just get him used to

556
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Speaker 3: just you working his hands, catching the ball different ways,

557
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: over his shoulders, over his back, reps, reps, reps, getting jumped,

558
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Speaker 3: going back on balls, coming in on balls.

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Speaker 2: It takes a lot of reps, right, whether it's off

560
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Speaker 2: the fungo, the machine. You can make yourself a much

561
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Speaker 2: better defender.

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Speaker 3: But I think a lot of times throughout my career

563
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Speaker 3: you'll be surprised guys just take the you know, do

564
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Speaker 3: the bare minimum when it comes to defense. And I'm

565
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Speaker 3: not saying he is, but I think if that's a

566
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Speaker 3: place where you know, you can make yourself a much

567
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Speaker 3: better defender if you put that work in.

568
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Speaker 1: So I was listening to a interview with Susan Walden,

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Speaker 1: the radio play by or color personality, and she said, basically,

570
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Speaker 1: she talked to Dominguez recently and he spent a lot

571
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Speaker 1: of the winter working on his defense and hitting from

572
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Speaker 1: the right side of the plate, the two things that

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Speaker 1: you brought up. So if those things are true and

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Speaker 1: if that bears fruit, I think you can go ahead

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Speaker 1: and send that All Star tweet. Uh So, final topic

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Speaker 1: for tonight are the Yankees the American League favorites. I mean,

577
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Speaker 1: I look at what's going around in the American League.

578
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Speaker 1: I mean the teams that have taken the biggest steps forward,

579
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Speaker 1: probably the A's A's aren't gonna win anything. The Astros

580
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: have gone backwards. They traded Tiger Red Sox again. I

581
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Speaker 1: mean they got Crochet, but I mean they're still little terrified.

582
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Speaker 2: They're banking on Trevor's story to be healthy.

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Speaker 3: You've got constans, they got, they got a good they

584
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Speaker 3: got a good young athletic nucleus. That's what I do

585
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: like about the Red Sox. They still got They've got

586
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Speaker 3: some work to do, but they've done some work.

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Speaker 1: Yeahs Orioles lost Corbyn Burns. I mean that's a big

588
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 1: loss to make up. Like they're gonna get better. Like

589
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Speaker 1: we said, how how Yankees are counting on some guys

590
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Speaker 1: to get better. I think that the Orioles are doing

591
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Speaker 1: the same thing. They're counting on maybe Holiday to have

592
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Speaker 1: that next step up year. Maybe you know, Mayo. Their

593
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: big prospect comes up Henderson probably you know, Henderson faded

594
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: in August last year. If he can keep it up

595
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: for a full season, it's probably an extra two or

596
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: three wins just based on how good he is. But

597
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: the pitching, I mean, they really haven't added anybody of

598
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: note that I can think of. Nobody big. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the big story I think they added a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys, but they.

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Speaker 3: Get Bautista back, but that's I mean, they get him

602
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: back this year, so that's kind of like an acquisition.

603
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Speaker 3: But Corbyn Burns is a huge loss on top of

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Speaker 3: Even with Corbyn Burns, if you look at it, they

605
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: were kind of dealing with some you know, rotational death

606
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Speaker 3: issues towards the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Uh could be Uh could

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Speaker 1: be interesting. So do you think the Yankees right now

609
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Speaker 1: are the favorites?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. And when you,

611
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Speaker 3: I mean, can you put that that list back up

612
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Speaker 3: that you put up earlier. I'd like to see that roster.

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Speaker 3: When you look at that roster and you look at

614
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Speaker 3: the rotation. Yeah, when you when you look at that

615
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: man and listen, I take my I'll take my fourth

616
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: starting guy and my fifth starting guy against yours, and hell,

617
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: you know, if they can't get rid of Marcus Stroman, listen,

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Speaker 3: let's just say something happens. If market Stroman is is

619
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Speaker 3: you know your contingency plan, if somebody you know you have.

620
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Speaker 2: To eat innings. He gave you one hundred and fifty innings, bro,

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Speaker 2: I mean they made it to the World Series.

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Speaker 3: He did something along the season and helped you get

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Speaker 3: them there. I'm just whether you like it or not,

624
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: he did. He did his part, you know what I mean.

625
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: So uh And then you look at those guys at

626
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Speaker 3: the back end of the bullpen. If you get if

627
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Speaker 3: you get j Low, if you can get that guy

628
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: back man, if you if if that guy can stay healthy,

629
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Speaker 3: he is he could be one of the more dominant

630
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: closers in the game. Closers or that it's not you know,

631
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: wherever you want to put him back there Bridge guys,

632
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Speaker 3: you know Devin Williams, Luke Weaver, Lewizaga, cousins in Hamilton,

633
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: who who I think has some promise And you know,

634
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Speaker 3: I it's hard to it's hard to not like them.

635
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Speaker 2: It's hard to not like that lineup.

636
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Speaker 3: Judge Bellinger, Demigaz I think Jazz a full year again.

637
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Speaker 2: The Bronx gonna bring out the best in jazz chislm.

638
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: Thirty thirty thirty. That's that's man.

639
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Stamp it, stamp it.

640
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: And I think too, I think he'll be more motivated

641
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Speaker 3: to stay on the field. I'm telling you, you know

642
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: one thing I had to learn early in my career,

643
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: right hurt or injured. Yeah, hey, it's about getting to

644
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Hey, Jazz, we need you. Are you hurt

645
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: or you injured? You can you can play through hurt. No,

646
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you can play through

647
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: her injured is different, like so a lot of guys,

648
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: a lot of guys I feel like nowadays, and you

649
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: get a lot of training staffs all hell y, how

650
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: you feeling.

651
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Speaker 2: I mean, just just we'll give you a day. No,

652
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Speaker 2: forget that, we need you in the lineup.

653
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Speaker 3: The Yankees need Jazz Chisholm's energy, his athleticism in that

654
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: lineup every day.

655
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Speaker 1: That's one thing that I think Sooto added to the

656
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: Yankees last year was he taught guys how to play

657
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: every day, and he made Aaron Boone a little less

658
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: scared depencil guys in there every day because you remember Boone,

659
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: he was all always swapping guys in and out. I

660
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: mean even when you were on the ball club, he

661
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: was changing line ups a lot. But last year he

662
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with, you know, the same first five

663
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Speaker 1: at least most of the time. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the Anks are still my favorite in the American League.

665
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: But we you know, we can't afford to lose a

666
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: judge for two months. We can't afford any major injuries.

667
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: We gotta pretty much keep these guys on the field.

668
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: I still think one or two lefties out of the

669
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Speaker 1: bullpen is a necessity, and we probably got to have

670
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Speaker 1: somebody step up and make a huge improvement, whether it's

671
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Speaker 1: Dominguez coming out of nowhere, or whether it's Volpi, you know,

672
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: finally having that year. If you look at what Volpi

673
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: did through June last year, I don't know if you

674
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Speaker 1: remember that he was in about three hundred and he

675
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Speaker 1: had about a four war worth or the first you know,

676
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Speaker 1: two months of the season, and then it went backwards,

677
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: like everything went backwards. I think he's got potential if

678
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Speaker 1: he can stretch that out for another couple of months

679
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Speaker 1: to be a big time.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you brought him up. I'll say this,

681
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Speaker 3: and this is an ex player talking. I don't worry

682
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Speaker 3: about Anthony Vopee. Anthony Vopie is in what his second

683
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Speaker 3: full season.

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Speaker 1: Well this will be his third, but he just finish

685
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: his second full season after playing two weeks at Triple A, and.

686
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Speaker 2: He did what in the year before he went what

687
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty.

688
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty only hit two oh nine, but he raises

689
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: average thirty points the next year, Power went down.

690
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Good short stop in the Al East.

691
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: Want to go glove good short stop? Alast is no

692
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: a at least is no joke. Bro, I don't care.

693
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: The Tampa Bay is gonna bring it every year. We

694
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: see what Baltimore is doing. I mean, it just gets

695
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 3: you know, we know what Boss is gonna do. Listen,

696
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: I don't worry about Anthony Vope. Right when you looking

697
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: around the league and look at what you have, I

698
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: know people will scream Carlo's career. No, no, let Anthony

699
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: Vope play. Let him play. He's a strong kid, he's athletic.

700
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: He's only gonna get better. He's a student of the game.

701
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: At the big level, you get better with repetition. He

702
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: has all of the traits, the physical abilities.

703
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: To be an extremely good or even above average short

704
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: stop in the big leagues. And that's my opinion that

705
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: just I just I really believe that right.

706
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: Now, thirty four game on bass streak last year. I mean,

707
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that the Yankees are struggling

708
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: with right now is we don't have a clear cut

709
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: leadoff man. I think it would do wonders for the

710
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: team if he were able to claim that leadoff spot

711
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: in spring training and hold on to it throughout the

712
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: whole year. Last year he won the leadoff job and

713
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: then around you know, July, he yielded it. But I

714
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: think he's got a potential to be a huge impact.

715
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: But you know what, I worry. I only think, you

716
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: know one thing I wonder and I could be totally wrong.

717
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Vopik. And he's a young guy.

718
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: He strikes me as a thinker, right, Like I feel

719
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: like he's a tinkerer with his swing, right, I just

720
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like he's a mechanical adjustment away.

721
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: And I think, and I say this.

722
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: Because I was very much like that, even go back

723
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: to the year that I was with the Yankees, Marcus

724
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: I had Marcus Tams.

725
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: It was the most free that I feel.

726
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I was literally I've always had power power

727
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: coming up high school, early in my minor league career,

728
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: but like in the big leagues. You know, I was

729
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: turned into like a slap guy when I was with

730
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: the Marlins, But I got back to being my self

731
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: with you know, guys like Marcus Tams and I think both.

732
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: He sometimes he just looks like he's a little bit

733
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: robotic and mechanical and and he's in between the ears right,

734
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: and I just feel like he's a he's a tinkerer

735
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: and he's he's somebody going.

736
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: I think he just he's.

737
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: A a you know, a mechanical adjustment away from being

738
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: like fucking just excuse my language, fucking.

739
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Nasty, like like I do.

740
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: Man like he's got the power, he's got the fast

741
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: twitch like he he's got the frame. He's got a

742
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: very he's got a very durable frame. I like that

743
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: about him. But I think he just tinkers too much.

744
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: I think he needs to just get loose, like go

745
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: like a backyard set up. Like if I was playing

746
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: with my book, my buddy's in the backyard, if me

747
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: and Derek gro had the whoop the ball and a

748
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: couple of root beers, we had to get it.

749
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: Like like what would just set up? Be like like

750
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: that's your setup, loose and then just like go from there.

751
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: That would be my you know, my my advice and

752
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 3: recommendation for him. I think he's just just stopped tinkering

753
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: and just go fucking.

754
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Compete Yogi used to say, you can't hit and think

755
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: at the same time, and I agree with that.

756
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Like sometimes sometimes I can just see it in his eyes.

757
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: I played, I'm like, he just hell, is it here?

758
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: Or is it here? You know?

759
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: And it's just like, is it my too wide? And

760
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: I just think I think that is the only thing

761
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: holding him back. But with reps, I think the dude

762
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: is is going is gonna be a good player.

763
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Well there you heard it there first, folks. Uh, Anthony

764
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Volpi gonna turn it around this year. Have a big year, Cameron.

765
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you can catch him periodically on foul Territory. Hopefully

766
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: we'll get him back in the Yes booth at some

767
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: point soon. I mean, this year amazing colorful suits. I

768
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: used to call you the Hannibal Lecter of color. Commentators.

769
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Become a bad man. I'm a bad man. But hey,

770
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: if nice, you know what, I'll just let me hop

771
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: on here with you.

772
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Man, I'm good any anytime, my friend, we're gonna let

773
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Cam go. We're gonna jump over to voicemails. Cam, I'll

774
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: see you around the foul Territory studio. All right, my

775
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: brother appreciate you guys. All right, let's go to voicemails here.

776
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: We got a few calls here, this first one on

777
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: k Brian Hayes.

778
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 5: What's going on? Derek, wanted to get your thoughts on this.

779
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: I heard anyway that it was rumored that Cabrian Hayes

780
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 5: wanted to demand a trade.

781
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: And when you.

782
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 5: Look at his numbers, his offensive capabilities so far have

783
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 5: been pretty much a kneemack, real bad, but he does

784
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 5: bring one of the best gloves in the game over

785
00:35:53,840 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 5: at third base. My question to you would be, the

786
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: Yankees are willing to basically give up on the hope

787
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 5: that they're going to have a twenty to twenty five

788
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: home run type of guy at third base and possibly

789
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 5: buy into, hopefully Hayes going back to where he was

790
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago and trying to drive that

791
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 5: average up to a round to seventy two eighty somewhere

792
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 5: in that range, and they hope for ten home runs.

793
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 5: Would you take that as a viable option? Really, if

794
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 5: you could hit that two seventy two eighty, give you

795
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 5: about ten home runs, but bring that gold glove level

796
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 5: third base to the party. Really, and as we know,

797
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 5: I mean it really is just as important in baseball

798
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: to keep runs off the board as it is to

799
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: score them two seventy five. If I mean this is

800
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 5: all theoretic. If he could hit two seventy five to

801
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: eighty whatever at the bottom of the lineup, that could

802
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 5: be pretty valuable.

803
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: We like guys, think I appreciate the call. Brian, Uh,

804
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: you kind of move the goalpost a couple of times.

805
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: I think I think he said two seven in the beginning,

806
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: and then it was two seventy five, and I think

807
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: your last one was too eighty. But let me just

808
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: say this, if if K Brian Hayes can hit two

809
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: eighty five two ninety, it'll be all right. No, I

810
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: actually I wouldn't hate it. It's not one of those

811
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: moves that I would be like, yeah, we got K

812
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Brian Hayes, all right, hit two thirty three with four

813
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: home runs. But like you said, great d and run prevention,

814
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: as we know, is very important. And if the Yankees

815
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: picked him up, a guy with that low of batting

816
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: value again, let's show it one more time, just the

817
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: second percentile and batting run value. I think that you know,

818
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: if they traded for that, I would think it would

819
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: be because they think they could unlock something.

820
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 6: Big barret Eddie here, I'll just watch an MLB network

821
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 6: and be announced that Sasaki signed with the Dodgers. I mean,

822
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 6: one of the risks in the stop getting riches. This

823
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 6: is something that the league has to do an investigation.

824
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I feel that maybe some collusion going on here.

825
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean, they get three top all stars from the

826
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: World Baseball Classic Japanese teams, Yamamoto, Otani Malsasaki, who's next

827
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 6: to mother Tommy No, no, no, Honestly that there has

828
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 6: to be something going on here. For me, the red

829
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: flag is when Tasaki said that he doesn't want any

830
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 6: players involved. I found that to be a red flag.

831
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 6: There have to be some type of cold even going on.

832
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 6: I'm old enough to know that the Dodgers have been

833
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: accused of just before with Strawberry and eWiC Davis. You know,

834
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: bring that up. I just I just find it very

835
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 6: very strange. But I think something should be about to

836
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 6: think to it with this whole deal.

837
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's illegal to have a preset deal

838
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: with an international free agent. The Dodgers already had handshake

839
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: deals with the number of prospects that are in kind

840
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: of the same category as a Rokie Sazaki these Latin

841
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: players that they asked to re sign next year, and

842
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: one of them got so ticked off that he took

843
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: his act to the pirates. Look. Ken Rosenthal was on

844
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: foul Territory today and he had a really interesting statement

845
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: about this. He said that if this causes a more

846
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: of an uproar in Major League Baseball, if this, I

847
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: guess concentration of international talent on one squad hurts the game,

848
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna move us closer to an international draft, which

849
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: is what Major League Baseball wants. And you know what,

850
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: it's something that I want.

851
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: Tooklyn, Hey don't it's not baseball related but Saturday nights,

852
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: so you know, I know you're interested in UFOs news

853
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 4: Nation at eight o'clock is going to have an Air

854
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: Force veterany man and all that means. But he has

855
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: recovered alien spacecraft and he's going to be talking about

856
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: that as he using big time whistle blower. So I

857
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: think that should be of interest to you.

858
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I think that's just the Martians family

859
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: stopping in for the holidays and hopefully that h that

860
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: spacecraft they took isn't too badly damaged. After the crash,

861
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: but I appreciate all the calls. I appreciate everybody who

862
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: stopped in to chat. Once again, thank you to Cameron

863
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: Mabon and let's go get him. Baseball season coming up

864
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: here a few weeks away from pitchers and catchers and

865
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: just after that spring training games, so stay tuned as always,

866
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,799
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