1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. We are missing our friend Dan Hansas 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: in action, but we soldier on today. Mark Sessler and 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Chris Westling are here with me. We had a night 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: of preseason games. What's up, boys, It's good to be back. 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: A we are we excited about the preseason? No, come on, no, 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I am. Honestly, I gotta say it was a rush 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: for me. Like you're waiting for that on that preseason 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: live app, You've got four screens spinning saying like the 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: game is about to start. I got some butterflies. It's 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: we haven't seen this in months, Wesseling. Within minutes of 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos and forty Niners playing, we see Peyton Manning 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: lining up in the in the pistol formation. That does 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: not get your NFL juices flowing at all. Well that 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, I do like that kind of thing. The 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: scheme changes is uh, seeing how creative teams are going 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: to be. That's that's fun. My balloon was a little 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: little deflated when not minutes into the Bucks Ravens game, 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: we have to wait for the ref to go under 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: the hood for a replay. Just just seems extraneous in 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: a preseason game. We should kill instant replay in the preseason. 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: I think everyone would be on board with Well. West 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: tweeted that and I almost retweeted it because I found 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: it funny. And then I got distracted and I went 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: back and looked later and people had they had hammered 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: you a little bit saying, you know, the refs need 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: a preseason two they need to, you know, get their 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: vibe together. I mean, I guess I see that point 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: of view. It's it's preposterous. Why the refs just jumped 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: right into the season last year at what week four 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,639 Speaker 1: they did it? I don't remember them meeting hood practice. Well, 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos, you know, broke out that formation. And for 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: football dorks like us who are all over the preseason, 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: that was like nirvana seeing Peyton Manning back there. I 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: think it was a surprise. You got the running back 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: by hind him. He's only out there for one drive, 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: but it gives us something to talk about. Are we 38 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: already making too big of a deal about Peyton Manning 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: pistol formation and in this little change. I don't think so, 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: because I think we're gonna see more teams that don't 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: have the running type quarterback. Give this a shot. And 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this a little bit earlier 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: to that. Chris Ault even came on NFL Network in 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: January and preached that, listen, you don't need the read 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: option angle to make pistol effective because when you're lining 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: that backup four yards behind the quarterback, defenses can't see 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: the that running backs first step. And he's ste talked 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: about Nevada used it for two years without the read 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: option and they had a lot of success with it. 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: And he even mentioned Eli Manning, not Peyton by name, 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: as a guy that would make sense and it would 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: improve the running game of basically any NFL team that 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: incorporated it. Well. On the other hand, that that's kind 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: of why we are making a big deal out of it. 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: It is too big of a deal because it's not 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: about the quarterback. Then Peyton Manning is running the pistol, 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: but this is purely about helping the running game. And 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: it can help the passing game too though. It can 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: simplify things. It can make it so that their play 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: action game and you know they have a great zone 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: running scheme. People forget the Alex give back in Denver. 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: That could be a big story uh this year. And look, 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: I think the entire NFL sees the flexibility that formation 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: gives you. Doesn't mean it's gonna be their whole offense. 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: But the Broncos, you know, they give defenses enough to 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: worry about. And now you throw this into the mix. 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: You got west Welker. There, you got Julius Thomas, who 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: I know westleyn is very excited about. I am. I 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: feel like he's that wild card. Now he's a lot 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: more athletic than Joel Greeson. It gives them another mismatch 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: type of guy potentially. Uh, he took first team reps 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: all off season and now he's he's starting while Greeson 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: is out. I guess I'm interested to see whether he 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: keeps the starting job and had a nice game. How 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: how great an offense would that be to be a 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: tight end And I mean, you're you're gonna be open 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: right single coverage, You're going to be open, you know 78 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: to Mary's Thomas, Welker, Decker all taking defense attention away. 79 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: And and Julius Thomas is one of these new types 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: who was six five to fifty played four years of 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: college basketball he's athletic as can be. Uh missed two 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: years because he was injured, but the Broncos have liked 83 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: him since they drafted him two years three years ago. 84 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: His emergence really one of the more underrated storylines I 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: think of Camp. They have a lot of numbers. I 86 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: mean because that running back. They're still sorting it out. 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: Ronnie Hellman still the starter, Monty Ball. You know, there 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: wasn't really any separation there last night. But that's a 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: good tight end group. People forget that they were pretty 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: productive and you throw Thomas in the mix, who's the 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: most athletic, uh, and they're gonna be tough to stop. 92 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: You know, they were playing the forty Niners last night. 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Did you have any impressions watching the forty Niners? Mark Sessler? Well, 94 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, initially, what I what I thought 95 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: was interesting was the team does lack any sort of 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: presence downfield in the past game from what we little 97 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: we saw last night. Immediately they were using Vernon Davis 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: in in the formation where he would come across. He'd 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: tricked completely tricked the defense where he was going to be. 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: They're thrown to him short. Bolden looked like an immediate 101 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: fit to me in the forty niner system, like Kaepernick 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: and him already really really seem to have chemistry, but 103 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: they really lack like that ability to strike down field. 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: From what little we saw last night, I can already 105 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: hear Dan hands As listening somewhere thinking we don't have 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: enough mirth in this podcast. It's too football hardcore heavy. 107 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: But I totally, I totally agree with you on the 108 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: forty nine. It's not so much not just that they 109 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: don't have a vertical threat, but they just don't have 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a real wide receiver. Give me a wide receiver on 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: that team that's healthy. I mean outside of Bolden, No, 112 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: they don't have a deep. They don't have a guy 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: is bold and a wide receiver though, No, I think 114 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: he's more like you're inside. Guy's gonna do the same 115 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: thing over and over and shouldn't be playing. He's a 116 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: tight end. I mean he's a slot receiver, so he's 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, but he's basically a tight end. I mean, 118 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get any separation. They're hoping that a J. 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Jenkins steps up. That hasn't happened. He's had a rough camp. 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: He lost a fumble, I don't want to overreact to 121 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: any result of the preseason. I don't really care what 122 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: happens in the box score, but it's more about who's 123 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: earning snaps, who's getting into the mix, and they're searching. 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they signed Austin Collie. I think Austin Colly's 125 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna make that team. Austin Collie might end up playing 126 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: a lot for them, Yeah, if he's healthy. I mean 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I thought when he played with the Coolts, I thought 128 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: he was more important to their offense than Pierre Garson was. 129 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: He was that good. I am encouraged that when I 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: got a first look at Kaepernick last night, he had 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: grown what were the makings of a very fluffy beard. 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: And no, I mean, you know, the guy's the guy 133 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: is maturing, He's obviously growing into his role. Does he 134 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: still look like the great Gazoo? I don't know. He 135 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: looked like he looked like an adult to me, ready 136 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: to take charge. But I mean, also, the Niners is 137 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: a team like the Patriots. Talk about a team that 138 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: can completely go into the lab and change what they 139 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: do from week to week. I I'm not. I think 140 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: you're right. The preseason is not going to give us 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: a full picture of what they're about on any level. 142 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: No learned last year in the preseason how explosive Kaepernick 143 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: can be. Sometimes the preseason can tell you a little 144 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: bit about something. Who's some young player that's trying to 145 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: make in it back now, they're gonna hide things he's not. 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: It's not going to be about him. I do agree 147 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: with you. The beard was troubling to me. He's kind 148 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: of that guy who shows up like if you just 149 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: don't see him for a month, he looks like a 150 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: completely different person when you see him after. They're just 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: people like that in life. Uh. I know, And we've 152 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: got Chris Law behind the glass. Your beard is you know, 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: it's time tested. It gives you an elegant look. Elegant. 154 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I think it's more lumberjack. You're like an elegant lumberjack, 155 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: though you're not. You're you are wearing a flannel, but 156 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: it is a it was a recently laundered flannel. Could Yeah, 157 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: he's the type. I mean, we're honored to have Chris 158 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: Law subbing in here producing today. Certainly the most well 159 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: known person you know in the studio right now because 160 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: of the Rich Eyes and podcast ten million downloads. I mean, 161 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: they're they're on fire. But you're the type not not 162 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: to get on you, but you're the type that pulls 163 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: off the beard. I feel like people that are in 164 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the ESPN body issue, they don't need a beard, don't 165 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: need you would not be the choice for the ESPN 166 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: body What does what does think of that? Because I 167 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: think we have them on the line. Oh no, we're 168 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: getting surprised, just like we surprised them the other day. Dan, 169 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: are you there? You know it's a bunch, it's you know, 170 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: my ears were twitching and I was told that there 171 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: was some heat being dropped on me. So I gotta 172 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: call in and I gotta, you know, defend my honor. Well, 173 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, you like to steer us sometimes into the 174 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: lighter side of things and and into the jets, and 175 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: those are two you know, topics we've avoided so far. 176 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: No jets talk nothing to Zany and you know we're 177 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: just you know, wondering how disappointed you'd be somewhere listening. Well, 178 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: number one, I'm deeply disappointed. Um, you know, someone's gotta 179 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: bring the entertainment end of the podcast. But you know, 180 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: more importantly, I was I was laying on kel v 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: J outside Austin, Texas, enjoying myself. Chris Law I get 182 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: a call from him. I figured there must be something 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: terribly wrong, like maybe I'm his emergency contact or something. 184 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: Turns out, it was just Chris Law doing me a 185 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: solid as a good man, telling me that there was 186 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: some heat being dropped on me. And there was a 187 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: lot of, you know, maybe some disrespect over the fact 188 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: that I'm not at work right now and I'm drinking um, 189 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, alcoholic beverages while you guys are working. So 190 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: I just want you to know that I hear all, 191 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: and I know all, and I have sources. I'm not 192 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: sure what heat was being dropped on you. I think 193 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I need to go back and listen for that. I 194 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: think we're just frankly jealous. You're on lhuys on l J. 195 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Are you or are you not currently with Cedric Benson. 196 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: I was et Cedric Benson. I would not be in 197 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: any condition to take the song call. Yeah, Dan will say, 198 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: were you guys talking about Kaepernick's beard. Yes, it's it's 199 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the greatest beard ever. I've never not seen a beard 200 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: like that. It's Rocky four. When the Loan was training 201 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: for the dry go fight. And the one thing I 202 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: will say about that is when Drago, when Stallone grew 203 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: out that beer, he actually climbed an entire mountain and 204 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: then be the be the man that was not human 205 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: on Christmas Night on the road. So I am all 206 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: in on the Kaepernick for Kaepernick. Yeah, I have a 207 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: critical question for Dan Hansen, but uh yeah, so I 208 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: don't know I was called in. I just to defend 209 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: my honor. But if if it really I wasn't capting 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: a lot of peace, then I apologize for coming in 211 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: with guns blazing. Dan. I got a big question for 212 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: you here. Is there an umbrella in your drink? Currently? 213 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: There isn't because I'm in Texas and this is beer country. 214 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Um As I see my wife right now on a 215 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: tube on the lake asking for me to get her. 216 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: How I kind of understand why I might deserve to 217 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: get some heat Right now, I'm in a pretty good spot. 218 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Right It's August Stands on his ninth vacation of the year. 219 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: He's got another one coming in Vegas. Football is being played, 220 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: and he's out there drinking lone Star beers. We we 221 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: should be annoyed at you. I'm impressed to be honest, 222 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: count off these nine vacations. I don't know. I'm the 223 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: one due in the countant. Dan, thank you very much. 224 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: Go back and say hi to your wife from us. 225 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: I will and uh, you know, guys, keep up the 226 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: good work. I really enjoy your work. So that was 227 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Dan Hansas. Thank you, Law for throwing us under the bus. 228 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: See Law, I like this. It takes an incredible amount 229 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of initiative as a producer. It's a good point, well 230 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: filling gaps. I like that he's driving the show, trying, 231 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: trying to make trying to bring up the boat that 232 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: is the NFL podcast, well kind of like Dan is 233 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: is number four on the depth chart here at around 234 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: the League nam the Awesoma number four on the San 235 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Francisco forty diers depth chart last night. How about that 236 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: for a segue. I don't think. I don't know why 237 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: everyone is so surprised. He was a subpar guy for 238 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: the last two seasons in Philly, and by name alone, 239 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: are we excited about him? No? But I thought it 240 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: was interesting last night that they start three guys, Tremaine 241 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: Brock being one of them, Terrell Brown, Carlos Rogers and 242 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: not the asswa isn't one of those guys. And they 243 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: just signed Eric Right. Let's start doing the math. Eric 244 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: Right makes the team. You know, does that mean I'm 245 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: the Asma is not making the team. It doesn't bode 246 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: well when the defensive coordinator comes out publicly and says, 247 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: we still don't know what we have in no Amniosma. 248 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: We still don't know if he can play. And also, 249 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that what was it 250 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: a season ago that he was chronicled as eating sandwiches 251 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: alone in his car during breaks. I don't know what 252 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: he brings to the locker room. I just don't know. No, 253 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't either, And to me, he's he's not really 254 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: that interesting right now as a football player. But it 255 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: is interesting that three years ago. Dan pointed this out 256 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: last night actually, and he was working from Texas. We 257 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: give him a lot of I believe he was working 258 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: until like one in the morning, one of them. Dan's 259 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: a very hard worker. Now, I'm the Aswa and Durrell 260 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: reeve us we were talking three years ago whether who 261 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: is the best cornerback in the league. And if Asma 262 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: doesn't make this team, he might be out of league. 263 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: And it's just another a reminder how quickly things go 264 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, it was a quick swoon, kind 265 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: of stunning. One veteran that's kept his career going at 266 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: a very high level longer than we'd expect is Steven Jackson, 267 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: the new Atlanta Falcons running back. They broke out last 268 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: night their first preseason game. He struggled a little bit, 269 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, and I know you watched that game. I 270 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: don't put too much stock in the game itself, because 271 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: it didn't look like Steven Jackson was even trying as 272 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: hard as he normally does. I mean, we're talking about 273 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: one of the big effort running backs in the NFL. 274 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: He's always in tip top shape. He's using the preseason 275 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: just as a tune up. But my concern with him is, 276 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, I've been saying that he's a major upgrade 277 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: on Michael Turner. The one concern, and I saw this 278 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: a couple of times last night. He doesn't have lateral agility. 279 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: And you see this if you watch the Rams tape 280 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: and you see Darryl Richardson and Isaiah Isaiah Pete and 281 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: then you watched Steven Jackson, and Jackson kind of looks 282 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: like the old cartoons where it's a Tom and Jerry 283 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Chase and he's getting around the corner with one let 284 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: up in the air. And that's how he turned at 285 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: the corner in the NFL. Now, But that's been the 286 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: case for a couple of years, right, I mean, and 287 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: he's still been effective. He's a guy that kind of 288 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: changed styles during his career. When was the last long 289 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: run Stephen Jackson had? He didn't have any last year. 290 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think no. I just he's not 291 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna turn the corner. And if your offensive line isn't blocking, well, 292 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: they weren't last night. Now they were going against Bengals, 293 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: who might have the best front flour in the NFL. 294 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: So that's we can't really take much from that. Eagles 295 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: Fan Week one, first play from scrimmage, forty yards up 296 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: the middle for a touchdown, Stephen Jackson went on us 297 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: wide open though. I'm serious, though in the open field, 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: he's not a guy for a couple of years that 299 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: is worrying anywhere he is an upgrade over Turner though, 300 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and they've already talked about that. I think 301 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: you're right. Was he not? I'm not sure he wasn't trying, 302 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: but they did not put him out there full blast. 303 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: They've talked about using him more in the passing game. 304 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Turner brought nothing to that. If you're using him as 305 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: a joker and lining him up all over the formation 306 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: and he doesn't have lateral agility anymore, I don't if 307 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: that's going to turn out so well, well, that's that 308 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: may be the case. Steven Jackson's a guy that I 309 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: don't care how veterans doing the preseason because they've been 310 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: through what the regular season and for him the playoffs 311 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: are like, and they're not really putting it out there. 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Football is such a game of effort, you know that 313 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: you have to be going all the way or else. 314 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: It almost doesn't make sense that I don't. It's really 315 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: hard for me to take anything from the preseason, which 316 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: leads us to your Browns. Well, I want to have 317 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: one more note on the Falcons because I caught some 318 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: heat a couple of weeks ago when I had labeled 319 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: them as a boring franchise, just a boring operation. But 320 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: I and and for me, it was a mystery, Like 321 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: I said, why I felt that way, and it it 322 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: came it hit home last night very clearly. It is 323 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: the way that television broadcasts look like from that dome. 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the color on the carpet, 325 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: the way the whole thing looks. It's like a massive 326 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: sleeping pill. I cannot watch Falcons games without becoming they're 327 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: just not as fun. Though. It's not not as fun 328 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: to watch the game. It doesn't show up on television 329 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: as well. I agree, Saints, though, are a fun deemon 330 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: to watch in general. You're not Falcons always have been 331 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: that team for me too. That when they're on national team, 332 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: you're like, really four or five games for for the 333 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: Falcons now. But now that they got rid of Malarkey, 334 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: brought in Dirk Cutter, they got Julio Jones. I mean, 335 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the point. It's not the team, it's 336 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: the environment. Put him outside in a gritty situation. I'm 337 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: more onto it. But yes, on to the Browns. I mean, 338 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Mark loves his teams to be running for three yards 339 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: up the middle, in the middle and grass like Peyton hillis, 340 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, and offense built around Peyton Hillis is really 341 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: like the Elements. And we might have a hard nosed 342 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: team in Cleveland this year. I know all the writers 343 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: in Cleveland they see him score a couple of touchdowns, 344 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, in the preseason, and they get very excited 345 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: about Brandon Weedon and they had a nice first night. 346 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler is feeling feeling the love. Well, you know, 347 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: not all of us can simultaneously route for the Patriots 348 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: and the Saints, Greg, So you know, these guys in 349 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland have covered that team for two decades. Tony Grossi 350 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: wrote a column last night that I thought it was appropriate. 351 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: He basically thought it. You know, he couldn't even explain 352 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: what he saw because for the first time in a 353 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: preseason game in a while, they actually put a few 354 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: drives together. But we shouldn't overstate it because you know, 355 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: they're playing against a very vanilla defense. But they I 356 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: thought we didn't. He looked accurate. He made good decisions. 357 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Last year. What you saw him was drop back, pat 358 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: the ball repeatedly and then often have the ball tipped 359 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: to just throw it nowhere. That made sense. He seemed 360 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: decisive last night. To me. That was that was the 361 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: difference I saw in Weeden's play. You seem conflicted there. 362 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: You in in your logic, in your head you know 363 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: that it doesn't mean anything, but in your heart like 364 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Brown's fans out there, you couldn't help get a little excited. Sure, 365 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: as a Browns fan, it's like you. I do think that. Honestly, 366 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: if that team were to turn it on, it would 367 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: be one of the better stories in the NFL. And 368 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: you see a lot of people come around and say, 369 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, you're right what the team has been through. Uh, 370 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: to see you them flip it around and start to 371 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: win would be exciting. But it's far too early. The 372 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: cynical side of any Browns fan is, let's emerge unscathed 373 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: from something other than a four and twelve season before 374 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: we even start to, you know, conjure our imagination. See 375 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: even the mild excited the preseason to me for and 376 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: I hate to be a buzz kill for Browns fans 377 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: or anyone else out there. It means nothing. I mean 378 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: nothing that happens results wise is gonna tell me something. 379 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: Maybe some players emerged, like Dion Lewis of the Browns. 380 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: He's a nice story, he's playing well. Now we're learning 381 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: that he's probably going to be a part of their offense. 382 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: Looks like he might. You think he's going to be 383 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: the backup to Richards. I think He's a complimentary back, 384 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: which frankly, they just didn't really have last season. They 385 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: see him as like they're poor man's there and sprowls 386 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: just to use in the passing game, right and and 387 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: he made a nice touchdown catch. Weeden was protected very 388 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: well in that game. I'd like to see what Weeden 389 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: does when he's not protected. That's a fair point. Had 390 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: the NFL and batted passes last year at which is 391 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: inexcusable considering his atcher. That's right. I thought Mingo was 392 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: the other guy I look at and say, you know, listen, 393 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: they've drafted a ton of guys who just you know, 394 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: week after week, they make no impact on tape. He's athletic, 395 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: he made he he got you know, past his blocker 396 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: a couple of times. First came out there. I was 397 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: encouraged by that. He looked very good. Actually reminded me 398 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: a little of Chandler Jones in the preseason last year. 399 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: I do think you can learn something from the rookies. Uh, 400 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: they played the Ram. Tavon Austin wasn't really a factor here. 401 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: Do we think that that Brian Schottenheimer and the Rams 402 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: are just kind of keeping tavan Austin under wraps for August. 403 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: I think from what we've seen in Brian Schottenheimer's history, 404 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: we have to question whether he's really in the lab uh, 405 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: whether anything's under the wraps, right, I mean what we 406 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: saw from the Redskins last year, to your point about 407 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: the preseason meaning nothing, there was so much kind of 408 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: handwringing about r G three's boring preseason. He hadn't done much. 409 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: And then they take the raps all off in Week 410 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: one against the Saints, and by halftime you realize that 411 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Shanahan's are brilliant, that they've masterminded this whole offense and 412 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: shown nothing in the preseason. Yeah. I mean, I think 413 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: that the Schottenheimer angle is starting to pick up some steam. 414 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: We've mentioned it a few times on our site, where 415 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: it's what is it that Schottenheimer is going to produce 416 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: if he's gonna pull a Shanahan type transformation week one? 417 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: Because he is who he is. You look where he 418 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: came from, not only in his roots with his father, 419 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: but through his career he's been a guy that is 420 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: not a pushed the envelope type of offensive coordinator. But 421 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: I think also with Austin, they weren't going into game 422 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: plan to try to turn him loose last night, and 423 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: that's a fair you know, that's that's fair on their angle. 424 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: I think if anything, they'd want to do that at home, 425 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: or they'll wait a couple of weeks to see how 426 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: he reacts to defense. Yeah, I don't think they'll show 427 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: anything with Davon Austin in the in the preseason. And 428 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: this is an offense that needs a creative offensive coordinator 429 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: because as much as I like Chris Gibbins, and you 430 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: have Jared Cook who's always been and talented but not 431 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: always productive. You have an okay quarterback trying to get better. 432 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: You have a mix you know of running backs. Looks 433 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: like Darryl Richardson is going to be the starter. Isaipp 434 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: had a fumble last night? You know, these aren't guys 435 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: that have been around and you know their roles. You 436 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: have to figure out all of these guys roles. I 437 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: think Kris Gives gonna be the number one receiver on 438 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: this team. I mean, San Bradford, you know, you can 439 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: knock him a little bit, but he had one of 440 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: the prettiest you know passes you will ever see to 441 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: Chris Givons last night and if he's protected, he can 442 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: throw a big time vertical pass. They're gonna need Schottenheimer 443 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: to be creative because their personnel on offense, these are 444 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: all space players, Givens Austin, both the running backs. Uh, Cook, 445 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to scheme to get these get these 446 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: guys the ball in space. They're not gonna power through people. 447 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: This isn't like gonna be a base offense. So Schottenheimer's 448 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: gonna be very important this year. But the other thing 449 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: is on the Rams, the very young. I think it 450 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: was Football Outsiders that noted that they're running back slash 451 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver groupings have less experience than any of the 452 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: last four expansion teams that came into the NFL. So yeah, 453 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: it's like coaching is extremely important with that team. And Bradford, 454 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: who's cycled through one coordinator after the next, does he 455 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: have his best one right now? I think we're all 456 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: concerned with that. And the Rams have a lot of potential, 457 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: especially on defense, and you see this on the offense, 458 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: and if they can't flip the switch, it's a shame. 459 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: And I think they're a team on offense. It would 460 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: not surprise me if they're one of the worst five 461 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: offenses in the league, and it wouldn't surprise me if 462 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: they take a huge jump. I just think they're one 463 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: of those teams you don't know what you're gonna get. 464 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to be very good 465 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: either way. Another defense you know that we watched last 466 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: night that's had so much turnover is the Baltimore Ravens. Uh, Chris, 467 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: you watch that game a little more closely. What did 468 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: you see from that defense? I think three takeaways? One. 469 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: Darryll Smith was a great free agent signing. A lot 470 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: of teams missed the boat on him because he's coming 471 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: off in injury prone year at age thirty. This guy 472 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: can play and he could be their leading tackler. Uh. 473 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: The second sticking at linebacker, Uh. Doomerville was a big 474 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: free agent signing, got a lot of publicity. Courtney Upshaw 475 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: looks like the starter. They're playing on early downs and 476 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: they'll split that position. Doomerville will come in on on 477 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: passing downs. And then the third thing, Maddy Elam isn't 478 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: starting yet. The first round draft pick James ahead of 479 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: bow is the starter. And this is something where every 480 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: time Hardball mentions the position, he does talk about ahead 481 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: of Bill. He can't be written off yet. We don't 482 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: know that Ellen will take that starting job. That surprised 483 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: me too when we we had a list yesterday of 484 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: rookies to watch, and I really, from everything I had 485 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: read and everything you heard about Maddie Elam was like, 486 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: the guy's gonna he is your week one starter. It 487 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: may not happen tonight, but it's gonna happen. And he 488 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: really was in there at the end of the game. 489 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: If anything, he let he closed the game with like 490 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: the the lowest guys on the roster. I'm not sure why, 491 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: but I'm from everything you hear, they like him. So 492 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: I'll be in to see what happens in week two 493 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: for them in the Peason's a big, big disappointment for 494 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: them if ahead of Oo is starting in week one. 495 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: But your point on Doomerville is really interesting because it 496 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: gets me thinking about what that team is gonna look 497 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: like on third down. You got Doomerville on one side, 498 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: you got Sugs on another. You can move Alodi Nada around. 499 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty dangerous group. I think Doomerville's 500 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: lost in Denver was the biggest, you know, mistake by 501 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: any front office in the entire offseason. I think you'll 502 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: have a big impact, you know, and don't forget they 503 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: picked up Chris Canty, who looked great last night. Marcus spears, 504 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that defense is gonna 505 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: better than it was last year. They were only what 506 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: eighteenth or nineteenth in defense last year. Well, it's it's 507 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: it comes back to Ozzy knew from that guy goes 508 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: he goes out and he finds his type of players 509 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: and they don't have to all be twenty two. They 510 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: don't have to all be hard and veterans. He gets 511 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: a good mix. And it's funny that in March everyone 512 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: who knows a lot about football was raising the red 513 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: flag and freaking out about the Ravens, and here they are. 514 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: They look a lot better than they did last season 515 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: on defense. In my opinion, I totally agree. Uh. One 516 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: other item we're gonna hit from last night that we 517 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: that we found out was an injury to Plexico Burris. 518 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: Looks like he's gonna miss the season with a torn 519 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: rotator cuff. Obviously not a big impact this year. There's 520 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: no guarantee he was even gonna make that team. But 521 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: it just got me thinking about Plexico Buris a little 522 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: bit and just what a interesting career that he had, 523 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of as heinz Wards, you know, partner and crime. 524 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: They let him go. I think he was one of 525 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: the best free agent signings of the last decade. His 526 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: first three years in New York, he was such a 527 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: difference maker, averaging over a thousand yards, averaging about ten touchdowns, 528 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: and his performance in the NFC Championship game against the Packards, 529 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: to me, is one of the best. Can you think 530 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: of a better performance by a wide receiver in a 531 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: playoff game than Plexico Burris dragging Al Harris all over 532 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: the field in five degree weather in lambeau Field. I 533 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: get your point. It was a dominating performance against a 534 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: cornerback who was thought to be among the best among 535 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: the best in the league. But yes, Larry Fitzgerald's whole 536 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: playoff run to get the Cardinals to the super Bowl 537 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: that was more dominant. To give you that. I think 538 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: with plaques he could have he could have made a 539 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: lot of teams better this season. He could have produced 540 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: this year. I understand them on the Steelers like he 541 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: wasn't looking more than a fourth or fifth guy. I 542 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: would argue heavily again to that, I don't think he 543 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: wasn't even on a roster until December last year because 544 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: nobody wanted him. I don't think he would have I 545 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: don't think he would have made the Steeler's roster, and 546 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: I think he would have been sitting on the couch 547 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: all year. I still like him as a red zone target. 548 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm not talking necessarily a thousand yard guy. But if 549 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: he don't play special teams at wide receiver and you're 550 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: only in the red zone, you're you're a roster ornament. 551 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll be sad to see him go. Let me do. 552 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's more like plas a Steeler, he burned the 553 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: Browns a hundred times. But it's like I liked him 554 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: as a player. To me, he was the most one 555 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: of the more misunderstood guys. Smart guy. He's gonna be remembered, um, 556 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, for shooting himself in the leg while wearing 557 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: a swap you know, Paris swept hands at a New 558 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: York City nightclub. I just wish people would remember more 559 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: than that. So let's pour one out here for Plexico 560 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: burruss career. Not an alcoholic beverage, because we're at work 561 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: for you all right before we go, We've got our 562 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: our only weekly segment right now, although we're we need 563 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: some help, Chris Laws alright after the show, you know, 564 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: we're we need to come up with more weekly segments, 565 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: but we need some sort of sound effect here to 566 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: go along with our weekly segment called the Metrics Mind Vendor. 567 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: This is a segment, you know, we talked about a 568 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: few times before. Basically some story that we wrote that 569 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: seems like it should be a stupid story, and yet America, 570 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: you know, seems to just fall in love with it. 571 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: We can't really understand why that is. One of our 572 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: loyal listeners suggested that we should send this out every 573 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: week and have the guy's guess what story it was. 574 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you guys, Chris, actually we'll give 575 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: you glock and jump in here, Mark Sessler three options here. 576 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: Which story here did the best and was was the 577 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: most popular this week? All right, I'm gonna start with 578 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: early do set cut by the Seattle Seahawks after only 579 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: four days. That's that's option number one. Brandon Boykin says 580 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: that the Patriots bullied the Eagles at their practices. That's 581 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: option number two. And then Brandon Moore decides not to 582 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: join the Dallas Cowboys and stay in retirement. I am 583 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: guessing that America is embracing the fact that the Patriots 584 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: were bullying the Eagles. All right, that's Wesleyan's answer. Law, 585 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go anything America's team rates, well, 586 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Cowboys story on this one, 587 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: I think good strategy. I wrote the bullying post, so 588 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: I would put that as number one, just based on 589 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: the way it was presented. The structure the stories this week, 590 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: because I had no idea, just kidding, these are these 591 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: can't be higher stories. Not only were they stories, but 592 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: they were all extremely popular. They weren't the three highest 593 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: stories of the week, but they were all up there 594 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: in the top ten. People were all about Early do 595 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: sett although he is not the answer man, they track 596 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: very well. Also, their their fans are crazy. So if 597 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: you write something about we need to start treating the 598 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks like we do the Jets, yea, Chris. Chris had 599 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: a ten minute long rant about NFL media's over coverage 600 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: of the Jets. That may have been my first tantrum 601 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, so we decided no Jets talking 602 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: in this show. Uh the answer and uh the winner 603 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: here Chris Law, Brandon More and the Cowboys. You're right, 604 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: all cowboys stories tend to do well. They do tend 605 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: to do well. See I kind of used inside knowledge 606 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: there to to but but they all they all did 607 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: really well. That's why I chose them. And the brandon 608 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: More story. It was like it was Anthony Muno's almost 609 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: coming out of retirement. People were hammering that thing. It 610 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: stayed as our top story for a long time. That 611 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: about wraps it up here for the show. We missed Dan, 612 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: But I'm glad Allah you sat in. Thank you. I 613 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: think we're gonna get rich in here. Actually one day 614 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: next week for you guys, that would be great with you. 615 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: That would definitely add some class, credibility and talent to 616 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: the qualities sometimes missing from this production. I'm just being honest. 617 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: You guys are good. I'm looking at your numbers. They're 618 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: all coming up. I mean, you guys are new, right, 619 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: this is week two or three. This is like week 620 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: two and a half second full week. Yes, it's great 621 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: the way it started to starting on the back end 622 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: of Damna Checks, kind of getting established and people to 623 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: know you and then flowing it in. So we are 624 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: the Love Choco podcast. There you go. We're kind of 625 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: like Beavis. I have a Beavis and butt Head spinning 626 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: off from you know what, sin Am? I right? No, 627 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: you know what's a great spinoff that's gonna happen. I 628 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: just flew that, uh season five of Breaking Badness. Coming 629 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: out the final season, they're gonna spin off Saul and 630 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: do a series on the Lawyer's Saul. See, that's a 631 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: smart spinoff. There's been a lot of dunder headed spinoffs 632 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: in time, but that one, there's some got squashed by 633 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: NBC that was We'll never know that would have been. 634 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: I wanted some behind the scenes of that. So we 635 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: hope that we're more like the Sauce spinoff, less like 636 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: the Joey from Friends spin off. And for the Ropers, 637 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: the Ropers, uh, and I think we got a close 638 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: on the Ropers for Mark Sessler, Chris laws stepping in, 639 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: and Chris Wesseling. I'm Greg rosent sall. That's it.