Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.
Speaker 3: And this is Joe McCormick. And today on Weird House
Speaker 3: Cinema we're going to be talking about the nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: eight Taiwani is fantasy martial arts movie Magic of Spell.
Speaker 3: This movie is overwhelming, Rob. I'm so glad you picked it.
Speaker 3: I was watching it with Rachel multiple times in the evening,
Speaker 3: right before bed, and she was very tired and like,
Speaker 3: I really need to go to bed.
Speaker 2: But every new moment there.
Speaker 3: Was something that like put the hook in was like no,
Speaker 3: I got to watch for another few minutes. And it's
Speaker 3: kind of relentless in that regard. So wow, what a
Speaker 3: choice this was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was really conflicted on what sort of
Speaker 2: movie to pick for today because we have several things
Speaker 2: going on at once. You know, it's like Valentine today
Speaker 2: almost here. So I was thinking maybe a paranormal romance
Speaker 2: of some sort that we kind of got into that
Speaker 2: a bit with the last selection, so wasn't heartbroken over
Speaker 2: not going in that direction. But then also it's Friday
Speaker 2: the thirteenth, so I was like, okay, maybe some sort
Speaker 2: of a slasher. And then also I was thinking, well,
Speaker 2: you know, we have Lunar New Year coming up here
Speaker 2: as well, so maybe you know, something from Asian cinema
Speaker 2: would be appropriate. And I was looking at some pretty
Speaker 2: serious and artsy titles, you know, some stuff that was
Speaker 2: already a little bit in the bummer category, you know.
Speaker 2: And it was in the day that I had to pick.
Speaker 2: The film was also just like the news cycle was
Speaker 2: especially depressing and demoralizing, and I realized that a I
Speaker 2: needed a hear b. They needed to be strong, they
Speaker 2: needed to be fast, and they needed to be fresh
Speaker 2: from the fight. And I needed a dumb fantasy movie
Speaker 2: with very little connection to reality. And the answer came
Speaker 2: to me like a divine p rising up out of
Speaker 2: a well magic of spell, the sequel to Child of
Speaker 2: Peach just staring up at me from my movie drawer,
Speaker 2: with the promise of frenzied fight choreography, insane magic, and
Speaker 2: essentially zero real world vibes to contend with.
Speaker 3: So, as you said, this is a sequel to another
Speaker 3: movie we've covered on the show, the movie Child of Peach,
Speaker 3: which came out I think just the year before this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they were able to reload the chamber and
Speaker 2: give us another one pretty quickly. It's quite impressive.
Speaker 3: There's not much of an esthetic gap between the two,
Speaker 3: Like the second one feels very aesthetically tied to the
Speaker 3: first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't even bother to reintroduce characters that are
Speaker 2: brought back into the film halfway through. They're just like
Speaker 2: you watched the last one. You watch Child of Peach,
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know what's going on.
Speaker 3: But for those who have not recently watched Child of Peach, rob,
Speaker 3: can you remind us, like, what was the deal with
Speaker 3: Child of Peach?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Child of Peach eighty seven gave us the origin
Speaker 2: of Peach Boy, So this is the Taiwanese film that
Speaker 2: is giving us some version of a Japanese folkloric character
Speaker 2: generally called Mama Taro, a child born from a giant
Speaker 2: peach and then found by an old woman and raised
Speaker 2: as her child. Then Peach Boy becomes a mighty hero
Speaker 2: as a boy fighting alongside a trio of friends Little Dog,
Speaker 2: Little Monkey, and Little Pheasant, who in these films are
Speaker 2: portrayed as magical, youthful fairy type figures with animal hybrid
Speaker 2: attacks and together, these four fight various only devils and
Speaker 2: monsters that's in the original folk tale. Okay, yeah, and
Speaker 2: so this is a Bonker's adaptation of all of that,
Speaker 2: seemingly even further removed from reality. Like watching this film,
Speaker 2: you may have passing questions about where this takes place.
Speaker 2: Is this supposed to be Japan? Or is or is
Speaker 2: this not Japan. It's really a kind of a fantasy
Speaker 2: world unto its own. We're in a world of almost
Speaker 2: pure myth here. So if you want, you can go
Speaker 2: back and re listen to our episode on Child of
Speaker 2: Peach before listening to this episode. But on the other hand,
Speaker 2: it's absolutely not required. We'll catch up to speed here.
Speaker 2: I guess one of the things that we've discussed in
Speaker 2: the last episode that's important to to drive home here
Speaker 2: as well is that there was an energy to Taiwanese
Speaker 2: action films of this era. And the way this is
Speaker 2: often interpreted, or I've seen it interpreted, is that they
Speaker 2: were competing against films released by far more established Hong
Speaker 2: Kong cinema studios, but they were making up for it
Speaker 2: with greater risks, crazier stunts, and just in certain films anyway,
Speaker 2: an absolute commitment to absurd elements. As such, Child of
Speaker 2: Peach goes big, it goes weird. The same goes for
Speaker 2: Magic of Spell, and the same goes for a thrilling
Speaker 2: Bloody Sword, another Taiwanese fantasy epic that we've discussed on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a really good one too. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think about some common features these movies share. They
Speaker 3: do tend to have, as you say, a real emphasis
Speaker 3: on outlandish elements. There's no subtlety, there's no restraint. They're
Speaker 3: going for bizarre characters and costumes, weird, just juicy set
Speaker 3: action set pieces. You know, they're not trying to stay
Speaker 3: close to realism or anything like that, just a pure
Speaker 3: embrace of spectacle and weird fantasy and comedy. There's a
Speaker 3: strong comedic element, very running. Yeah, slapstick. I would also
Speaker 3: call out something about the pace of the editing and storytelling.
Speaker 3: A lot of things just happen so fast. It's a
Speaker 3: style that mostly cuts out connective tissue that would be
Speaker 3: there in other stories and tends to kind of go
Speaker 3: from one outlandish thing to another.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there is something about the Paine. This is
Speaker 2: a movie where, at times seemingly every character can both
Speaker 2: fly and teleport, and we'll do so. I mean it's
Speaker 2: amazing to watch, but at times it's like, man, this
Speaker 2: guy just teleported three times to move across a room. Essentially,
Speaker 2: like a lot of work went into this effect. What
Speaker 2: did it accomplish? I don't know. It keeps things moving
Speaker 2: really quickly, and there's just it's something about the magical
Speaker 2: nature of the world. And it is also worth reminding
Speaker 2: her when the martial arts hits, it's amazing, like the
Speaker 2: stunt works great, great fight choreography, great wire work, and
Speaker 2: it just goes. It's just when the kicks start flying
Speaker 2: and the blades are pulled out. I mean, it's just NonStop.
Speaker 2: It's just all out, and I absolutely love.
Speaker 3: It, especially the final fight scene, which is huge. I
Speaker 3: mean it's the last twenty minutes of the movie is
Speaker 3: one continuous fight scene, and it's really excellent, like not
Speaker 3: cheap at all, great sets and props and really good choreography.
Speaker 3: It's fast, it's interesting, they keep changing it up, excellent, excellent,
Speaker 3: final showdown.
Speaker 2: I think all three. I could be mistaken on this
Speaker 2: because it's been a while since, certainly since we watched
Speaker 2: Throwing Bloody's sword. But I think all three of these
Speaker 2: Taiwanese fantasy films we've talked about, I think they all
Speaker 2: have a climax that takes place in some sort of
Speaker 2: a throne room somewhere like a massive, massive throne room
Speaker 2: with lots of space for stunts and wire effects. All right, well,
Speaker 2: let's briefly roll out the elevator pitch for this one.
Speaker 2: It is an ancient evil Sorcer needs virgin blood and
Speaker 2: thousand year old Jensen in order to retain his power.
Speaker 2: Only Peach Boy and friends can stop him.
Speaker 3: This movie, did you notice has strong themes of medicine, health,
Speaker 3: and rejuvenation. Seems like it was on the screenwriter's mind.
Speaker 3: So the main villain, his problem is that he is old.
Speaker 3: He's sometimes called the Elder Demon, also called King Devil,
Speaker 3: but he's depicted as very old and decrepit, and he
Speaker 3: has powers where he can like launch beams at people,
Speaker 3: but he is also shown as being feeble of body,
Speaker 3: so he'll like, you know, shoot a ray at somebody
Speaker 3: and knock them down and then do a villain laugh.
Speaker 3: And then then in the middle of the villain laugh,
Speaker 3: he starts coughing, you know, like he's having trouble. So
Speaker 3: it's this interesting combination of potency but also aging and
Speaker 3: weakness in the villain, and he needs to counteract the
Speaker 3: march of time and his own aging with evil magic.
Speaker 3: And so that's one theme. There's a kind of dark
Speaker 3: arts of healing that is central to the villain's plot.
Speaker 3: Like one of his main hinchmen we were just talking
Speaker 3: before we came on, Mike is sort of a black
Speaker 3: magic concierge physician, like he's a he is a you know,
Speaker 3: he provides medical services to rich evil ghosts. I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's like one big theme. But then on the
Speaker 3: other side, there's also just a lot of talk about
Speaker 3: what's good for health. The gen saying is good for health,
Speaker 3: and foods and drinks are good for health. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I was just noticing that knocking around a lot in
Speaker 3: the story. I'm not sure exactly what to make of it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess a big part of it is,
Speaker 2: you know, Jen Singh is going to play a role here.
Speaker 2: So the first movie introduces us to Peach Boy, a
Speaker 2: peach that becomes a child, and then they were like, well,
Speaker 2: what should we team peach Boy up with for the sequel. Well,
Speaker 2: let's go to Gen Sing, because Jen Sing, for those
Speaker 2: of you are not familiar, you know, it has a
Speaker 2: root like rhizome that grows in the ground that sometimes
Speaker 2: looks kind of like it has limbs, and there are
Speaker 2: folk traditions of Gen Seng becoming a child, and so
Speaker 2: therefore it just makes perfect sense. And of course Jenseng
Speaker 2: has all of these connections to traditional medicine. So this
Speaker 2: story basically writes itself at that point. It's a movie
Speaker 2: about wellness though.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, health and wellness, medicine, and also the power
Speaker 3: of the Buddha. Power the Buddha really comes through in several.
Speaker 2: Scenes absolutely all right. So for those of you who
Speaker 2: now want to go out and watch Magic of Spell
Speaker 2: and then come back for the rest of the episode.
Speaker 2: Kind of a mixed bag here, because on one hand,
Speaker 2: legitimate releases of this film, at least in the US
Speaker 2: and elsewhere, it just seemed non existent. However, if you're
Speaker 2: just looking for streams on various websites, it seems to
Speaker 2: be widely available there in multiple formats and actually at
Speaker 2: times in really good quality. I watched this on a
Speaker 2: disc of unknown origin, and honestly, some of the streams
Speaker 2: out there are better picture quality, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it has had anything like as of this recording, anything
Speaker 2: like an official DVD or Blu Ray release, at least
Speaker 2: outside of its original markets. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I watched a stream of it that had fairly rough
Speaker 3: subtitles that felt like an unofficial effort to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, say, the subtitles on mine were a little
Speaker 2: bit cheeky, but it's also hard to tell, because this
Speaker 2: movie's a little bit cheeky. Yeah, it's hard to tell, like,
Speaker 2: at what point is the subtitle composer going in for
Speaker 2: business for themselves and having a little extra fun, and
Speaker 2: how much of it is an accurate translation of the
Speaker 2: original dialogue? So yea, that being said, I think both
Speaker 2: of I think the two of us watch slightly different
Speaker 2: subtitled versions of this film, so at times we're going
Speaker 2: to be comparing notes on what may or may not
Speaker 2: have been said in this movie. Luckily, it is a
Speaker 2: very visual film that mostly tells its story through stunts
Speaker 2: and spectacle, so it's not as important. All right, Shall
Speaker 2: we get into the people behind this film? Sure? Now,
Speaker 2: this is one of those films where, at times, piecing
Speaker 2: everything together across multiple movie databases is a little challenging,
Speaker 2: but I was looking at IMDb, TMDb as well as
Speaker 2: a Hong Kong movie database and a couple of other
Speaker 2: sources here, all right. The director, also the writer and
Speaker 2: the stunt coordinator once again is Chung Sing Chaw, Hong
Speaker 2: Kong born director and actor who apparently came up through
Speaker 2: the Hong Kong Yun clan of filmmakers. His stunt coordinating
Speaker 2: and directing credits include both Peach films, as well as
Speaker 2: ninety one's Twelve Animals, eighty five's Drunken Dragon, and eighty
Speaker 2: five's Hello Dracula, That's a Hopping Vampire film. He received
Speaker 2: a nineteen eighty three nomination in the Hong Kong Film
Speaker 2: Awards for Best Action Choreography in The Miracle Fighters. It's
Speaker 2: my understanding that this is a guy who went to
Speaker 2: Taiwan to really capitalize on a lot of excitement that
Speaker 2: was building there for locally produced Wu Shaw style fantasy
Speaker 2: martial arts epics for the whole family. Yeah, big magical elements.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And so you know, everything I've seen from him,
Speaker 2: which is just two films at this point, is in credible.
Speaker 2: It's just again just a real commitment to just over
Speaker 2: the top action, laughs and absurdity.
Speaker 3: We have enjoyed the other JUNGHI hopping vampire movies that
Speaker 3: we've seen, and so now that I know this guy
Speaker 3: has one, I would like to seek that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hello Dracula. I love the title. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: great title. It's like the Big Bopper is given a
Speaker 2: given given Dracula ring. Yeah, what all right? Now getting
Speaker 2: into the cast once more, we have Child of Peach.
Speaker 3: Now, one thing I think people notice when they first
Speaker 3: start watching these movie Child of Peach or Magic of
Speaker 3: Spell is that the main character, Peach Boy, appears to
Speaker 3: be played by an adult woman.
Speaker 2: And that is correct.
Speaker 3: The star playing Peach Boy is an adult woman.
Speaker 2: Not a child. Absolutely. Yeah. It's much like you know,
Speaker 2: various incarnations of Peter Pan and of course mister b
Speaker 2: natural for MST fans out there, you know, knowing the
Speaker 2: character is supposed to be a little boy, I still
Speaker 2: end up processing Peach as a grown woman. So I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna go and say bear with me because I'm
Speaker 2: probably gonna use just all manner of pronouns when referring
Speaker 2: to Peach here. And I think the film is pretty
Speaker 2: self aware on this matter as well, Like, I think
Speaker 2: part of its intended humor is like, yeah, peach Boy
Speaker 2: is obviously like a twenty something meter a year old
Speaker 2: woman playing the role, But that woman is sau Lao
Speaker 2: ln aka lamsu Lao aka Sharon Foster. And then I
Speaker 2: think her nickname was apparently peach Baby because of the
Speaker 2: success of these films. Yeah, so born nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Just again, a tremendous performance here, spirited, high energy, just
Speaker 2: a real treasure here when she busts out the sword
Speaker 2: or even when she's just going you know, punches and kicks,
Speaker 2: amazing work here. She's great in this role for multiple reasons.
Speaker 3: Number one, she's just really good and the action, the
Speaker 3: fight choreography and the action scenes, she radiates lawful good
Speaker 3: She's one of those people, yeah, just beams out rays
Speaker 3: of goodness. So you really buy her as this as
Speaker 3: this kind of angelic, cherubic hero. And then also she
Speaker 3: has a groundedness and maturity, especially when compared to the
Speaker 3: more clownish character. Is like the puppeteer character we'll talk
Speaker 3: about in a minute. When the other characters are doubting
Speaker 3: or panicking, the character peach Boy keeps a cool head
Speaker 3: and she portrays that very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true hero, and yeah, we'll have a lot to
Speaker 2: say about her performance as we roll through here. But
Speaker 2: as for the actress here active from nineteen eighty through
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. According to the Hong Kong Movie Database, I've
Speaker 2: seen her described as a Kung Fu wonder kind of
Speaker 2: her time. She apparently attended a peaking opera school in
Speaker 2: Taiwan but quickly made a name for herself as an
Speaker 2: adorable fantasy action movie performer. On the various databases, her
Speaker 2: acting credits go back to nineteen eighty, but her career
Speaker 2: seems to really take off with eighty six's Kung Fu
Speaker 2: Wonder Child, sometimes presented with the title Kong Fu Wonder Child.
Speaker 2: And this was a Woosha film in which our youthful
Speaker 2: hero battles evil forces. That seems to be that's how
Speaker 2: she was type cast, but hey, she's great at it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Child of Peach in eighty seven was the big one.
Speaker 2: This was a big hit, and we of course get
Speaker 2: this Peach sequel. But I think there are other Peach
Speaker 2: sequels as well. I'm not sure if they're like one.
Speaker 2: Here's another adventure of Peach Boy or if it's kind
Speaker 2: of just you know, playing with some of the same
Speaker 2: themes when we have a you know, a youthful figure
Speaker 2: fighting evil with a lot of crazy action. Yeah, riffing
Speaker 2: on the on the central idea. Yeah. Her other credits
Speaker 2: also include nineteen eighty nine's The Iceman Cometh, the movie
Speaker 2: about Frozen, then Thoweds Swordsmen from the Ming Dynasty. Well
Speaker 2: regarded sword play in that film. I've actually seen it,
Speaker 2: but it has been a long time and I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if she's still active in any way, depending on
Speaker 2: the different databases you look at. Her last film was
Speaker 2: possibly in twenty sixteen or twenty eighteen. All Right, So
Speaker 2: that's our star, without a doubt. That's our title character.
Speaker 2: But we have some fun supporting characters here as well.
Speaker 2: First of all, Yaome Fong born nineteen fifty eight returns
Speaker 2: playing Peach Boy's mother, the Old Woman. She only has
Speaker 2: like eight films credited on the databases I was looking at,
Speaker 2: including Child of Peach and Hello Dracula, But she's very
Speaker 2: funny in this once more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny they write a line because most of
Speaker 3: her scenes are comedy scenes, Like there are several scenes
Speaker 3: where it's funny because she doesn't understand what's happening or
Speaker 3: doesn't understand that there's danger. For example, when the puppeteer
Speaker 3: is attacked by a boxing skeleton and.
Speaker 2: She thinks it's just a puppet show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that kind of thing is great. There's
Speaker 3: also some humor at just her being kind of nagging
Speaker 3: or harassing of people, like she harasses the clown character
Speaker 3: in a funny way. But also you get some real
Speaker 3: heart strings with this character. Like spoiler coming, she dies
Speaker 3: in this film. She's killed by the King Devil's ghost soldiers,
Speaker 3: and like the moment after that happens, you get kind
Speaker 3: of a montage of her life raising Peach Boy, and
Speaker 3: I was out of nowhere. I was finding myself feeling
Speaker 3: very emotional in the middle of crazy movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, absolutely, will we get those flashbacks to scene
Speaker 2: from the scenes from the first film where she's raising
Speaker 2: Peach Boy.
Speaker 3: She's feeding him like a hundred plates of food in
Speaker 3: a row to make him big and strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, it's a fun performance that does pull
Speaker 2: up the heart strings when it gets serious, which is
Speaker 2: something to say for this whole movie, because there are
Speaker 2: times for this movie is just flapstick, you know, to
Speaker 2: eleven and then other times, you know, quite sad and
Speaker 2: emotional or a little bit gary, like it really manages
Speaker 2: to do it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety five percent hilarious with five percent tier jerkers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with stunt work that at times you can
Speaker 2: feel in your bones. And and also just some of
Speaker 2: the choreography just makes you like, I'm watching it by
Speaker 2: myself and I'm essentially like fist pumping in the air,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's just so intense. All right, let's
Speaker 2: move on our other. One of our other main characters
Speaker 2: here is I believe we can agree at this point
Speaker 2: that he is some sort of a puppeteer or a
Speaker 2: traveling bard.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he is a performer. He explains this to
Speaker 3: Peach Boy's mom, that he's been making a living as
Speaker 3: a traveling puppeteer. But he's also I think a kind
Speaker 3: of stock character from fantasy martial arts movies of this type,
Speaker 3: who is the aspiring disciple of the great Master. He's
Speaker 3: wandering around looking for a mentor to teach him, you know,
Speaker 3: the to teach him courage and wisdom and martial arts.
Speaker 3: And so he's he's where that Peach Boy exists and
Speaker 3: is out looking for Peach Boy to teach him something
Speaker 3: and take him on as a student, even though he's
Speaker 3: obviously significantly older than Peach Boy.
Speaker 2: Right and doesn't recognize Peach Boy when he finally meets
Speaker 2: Peach Boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's been making a living as a puppeteer,
Speaker 3: so he like walks around with this big backpack that
Speaker 3: I first interpreted as a shrine or like sometimes in
Speaker 3: these movies there's a scholar character who has a wooden
Speaker 3: backpack like this in which they carry their books. But
Speaker 3: I think his backpack is it functions as a shrine,
Speaker 3: but may also work as like a kind of puppet stage.
Speaker 3: I wasn't exactly clear on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, at first I thought he was a
Speaker 2: priest of some sort as well. But yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 2: this character, his name is let's see sau Ye Don
Speaker 2: And in my subtitles they translated his name as one short.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they my subtitles.
Speaker 3: As far as I could tell, my subtitles never gave
Speaker 3: him a name through in my notes, I was just
Speaker 3: calling him the puppeteer or the disciple or the traveler.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we may refer to him by a number
Speaker 2: of names, similar case with other characters here.
Speaker 3: But he is the lovable, naive, buffoonish clown of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the guy who's going to get his
Speaker 2: butt bit by zombies, whose butt is going to catch
Speaker 2: on fire. He is going to be the butt of
Speaker 2: many a joke.
Speaker 3: So much happens to his nether regions. He gets a
Speaker 3: lot of testicular trauma, and a lot of stuff butt burning,
Speaker 3: butt biting, but boiling. It all happens to his butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah. Comedic character played by the Taiwanese actor
Speaker 2: and comedian Kupao Ming, who lived nineteen fifty through twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, and he was active on screen from seventy
Speaker 2: nine through twenty twenty. His other credits include ninety seven's
Speaker 2: Wolves Cry under the Moon, ninety two Secret Love in
Speaker 2: Peach Blossom Land Unrelated, and two thousand and sevens of
Speaker 2: the Warlords. So yeah, he's the clown of this film.
Speaker 2: But it seems like he had a pretty long career
Speaker 2: in pretty a staff bush career as a Taiwanese comedic actor.
Speaker 2: All right, now we're going to get into more villain
Speaker 2: territory here, our big bad our chief antagonist we already
Speaker 2: mentioned him is King Devil, also sometimes called the Elder,
Speaker 2: an ancient withered evil who ultimately needs virgin blood and
Speaker 2: gen sing in order to attain all of his powers
Speaker 2: once more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a question, did you know if this
Speaker 3: character was played by the same actor in both forms?
Speaker 3: Because we see him for most of the movie in
Speaker 3: the withered aged form, where I don't know, we'll have
Speaker 3: some comments later on how that form looks, but he's
Speaker 3: wearing a mask, like an old man mask, and then
Speaker 3: later in the film he has a rejuvenated form, and
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was the same guy.
Speaker 2: Hard to say. As far as I could tell, only
Speaker 2: one actor has like an actual credit for playing this character,
Speaker 2: but it probably is, I guess, But there are other
Speaker 2: actors who on the databases I was looking at, their
Speaker 2: names don't match up with a character, so it could
Speaker 2: be two different guys for all we know. But the
Speaker 2: credited actor playing King Devil is Chin Shan born nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty nine, active from seventy nine through ninety four. As
Speaker 2: far as I can tell. His other credits include Kung
Speaker 2: Fu Wonder Child, eighty seven's Ninja Hunter, and many other
Speaker 2: action films, a whole bunch of like Ninja films and
Speaker 2: other WUSHA style adventures.
Speaker 3: Well, I really liked this guy, great villain energy, and
Speaker 3: there was one part that was especially funny because it
Speaker 3: made me wonder if he was, in addition to playing
Speaker 3: King Devil, doing some voices in the movie, because do
Speaker 3: you remember this when it's the scene where peach Boy
Speaker 3: has to fight the boxing skeleton that attacks the puppeteer,
Speaker 3: and while he's fighting the boxing skeleton, the skeleton is
Speaker 3: snarling and kind of going making noises like that, and
Speaker 3: then we cut to King Devil's palace and King Devil
Speaker 3: laughs and it sounds exactly the same as the skeleton did.
Speaker 3: So it's like ten seconds and I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: is he King Devil doing these voices?
Speaker 2: I had to wonder. Yeah. I mean it could also
Speaker 2: could be just the same dub dubbing artists who's brought
Speaker 2: it who was brought in to dub multiple characters, which
Speaker 2: might be the case, especially when you're dealing with a
Speaker 2: lot of performers whose main skills are probably related to
Speaker 2: action choreography and stunts. But yeah, this guy's pretty great,
Speaker 2: especially once he gets the full transformation at the end
Speaker 2: and retains his youthful form, which you know he's going
Speaker 2: to do. He takes on.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, he becomes the silver version
Speaker 3: of the Goblin King Jara.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a cross between Goblin King seventy stage magician,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a typical, like wushaw, big Bad
Speaker 2: kind of a character. Pretty amazing, all right. So, like
Speaker 2: any any self respecting big Bad, you got to have
Speaker 2: some underlings, and he has some great underlings. First of all,
Speaker 2: there is this we've referred to him already, this warlock,
Speaker 2: this sort of dark alchemists, dark Lama character. In my subtitles,
Speaker 2: they kept calling him doctor Mongolia. I have also seen
Speaker 2: him called doctor Demon in the various databases. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he had a name in the version you watch.
Speaker 3: Well, once again, like with one short, the version I
Speaker 3: watched did not give this character a name, so I
Speaker 3: didn't know what to call I was calling him like
Speaker 3: the sorcerer, because he resembles these you know, evil magic
Speaker 3: sorcerers from some other movies like this, these fantasy martial
Speaker 3: arts movies. But yeah, like we said earlier, he's actually
Speaker 3: he does have sorcery powers, but he's very focused on
Speaker 3: evil healing, like taking care of the health of ghosts
Speaker 3: and demons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and often busting out like strange gases and elickxus
Speaker 2: and so forth. Yeah. So this master of substances, yeah
Speaker 2: for sure. So yeah, so strong sort of alchemist vibe here.
Speaker 2: He's played by an actor by the name of Semi
Speaker 2: And this guy was also an action director on Child
Speaker 2: of Peach, martial arts choreographer on this film, and has
Speaker 2: a handful of known acting roles including Kung Fu Wonder
Speaker 2: Child and eighty nine's Magic Warriors. Just a deliriously fun character. Though,
Speaker 2: every time this guy was on the screen, I was
Speaker 2: having a great time. Like literally, this character is like
Speaker 2: twirling his facial hair. He's that kind of over the
Speaker 2: top villain.
Speaker 3: It's also a great villain performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So that's one of the underlings. And
Speaker 2: then we have a character that has sometimes called Miss
Speaker 2: White Demon or sometimes Miss White.
Speaker 3: My version called her a little ghost.
Speaker 2: Little ghost. Okay, that'll work as well, played here by
Speaker 2: Ping Li Cheang, one of only four credits for this actor.
Speaker 2: Tremendously fun, over the top drag performance clearly based on
Speaker 2: the Yuki Ona character of Japanese tradition, you know, the
Speaker 2: woman of the snow with various powers of the cold.
Speaker 2: This is a tongue in cheek version of that.
Speaker 3: Is that the same monster type or character type that
Speaker 3: was in the dream sequence in Kurosawa's Dreams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're hiking up the mountain and.
Speaker 3: There's that frightening woman with the soft close voice and
Speaker 3: the snow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, it's been Versions of this character have
Speaker 2: been utilized to great success in various films. Here they're
Speaker 2: mostly having a laugh with it.
Speaker 3: Here it's played for comedy. She many times gets her
Speaker 3: hair singed in fire and is upset by this, so
Speaker 3: she takes She's very careful about her appearance, like she
Speaker 3: doesn't like getting her hair singed. There's also a really
Speaker 3: bizarre seduction of the clown character and maybe drinking of
Speaker 3: his blood. During the final fight scene. She just kind
Speaker 3: of leads him off with a scarf around his neck,
Speaker 3: and then he shows up later being like, oh wow.
Speaker 2: All drained of blood and loved up. Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: think it was a successful seduction based on that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right. Another Hinchman we have here is big rock demon.
Speaker 2: This guy is is pretty fabulous. You want to describe
Speaker 2: this character for our listeners.
Speaker 3: He's huge, gray, like a rock, kind of granite colored,
Speaker 3: has a bald head, and then he has green Ambrose
Speaker 3: Burnside facial hair. So if you've never seen the Civil
Speaker 3: War General Ambrose Burnside, he's got the sideburns that come
Speaker 3: down and connect to the mustache, but without a beard below.
Speaker 2: It's that look.
Speaker 3: But the hair is green and he's wearing a leather apron.
Speaker 3: He's got big muscles, and he carries around a giant
Speaker 3: rock cylinder on his shoulder that he uses to hammer people.
Speaker 3: In my version, this guy did have a name and
Speaker 3: he was called Stone Stone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he may be in my subtitles, so
Speaker 2: they called him Stone as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and he also has a transformed shape in the
Speaker 3: final fight where he can like turn himself into this
Speaker 3: rock that's just a rock with a face that goes
Speaker 3: remember and then you know, how do you beat a rock?
Speaker 2: It's difficult. Yeah. So this is essentially some sort of
Speaker 2: an one type character here, a big, strong demon with
Speaker 2: some sort of connections to rock and Mountain played by
Speaker 2: Yong Sung. Pretty long career for this guy. He was
Speaker 2: active from seventy two through twenty eighteen, and his credits
Speaker 2: include eighty one's Thrilling Bloody Sword. I don't know that
Speaker 2: he played a major character in that, but he was
Speaker 2: in there somewhere. And then we have another henchman who
Speaker 2: I don't know who played. I couldn't figure out who
Speaker 2: actually plays this henchman, but I kept thinking of him
Speaker 2: as Rocket Grimlin. He's some sort of almost Kappa esque
Speaker 2: looking Grimlin orcish kind of a character, and he has
Speaker 2: he either has some sort of a rocket launcher or gun.
Speaker 3: I was him as a laser orc yeah. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: he's got blonde hair. He's green skin, blonde hair, and
Speaker 3: a laser or rocket gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just he fires this when he starts
Speaker 2: firing this gun off, like the pyro technics are amazing.
Speaker 2: He's like just blowing up the whole set. So a
Speaker 2: lot of fun was that with this character.
Speaker 3: I was excited though to see. You know, so in
Speaker 3: the final showdown, a lot of the villain henchmen get
Speaker 3: their own interesting come uppance, you know, when they're finally
Speaker 3: beaten by the heroes, and this one has very anti
Speaker 3: climactic end. He just they hit him with the sword
Speaker 3: and then he disappears.
Speaker 2: Well, but it was after I think Peach ends up
Speaker 2: taking out his gun. Ye throws a peach at him
Speaker 2: and it clogs up his gun and then it misfires.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, then they make pretty short work of
Speaker 2: him after they cut off his ears. I think they
Speaker 2: pull his ears. I think do they cut them?
Speaker 3: I remember them grabbing his ears and pulling them.
Speaker 2: That's good, all right. I mentioned the pheasant, monkey and
Speaker 2: dog friends from the first film. Well, they come back
Speaker 2: without reintroduction, so they're going to be in play again.
Speaker 2: And then we also have Gen Singh, the thousand year
Speaker 2: old Gen Synh character is going to show up in
Speaker 2: this film, played by a child actor shin Ye Tah,
Speaker 2: only known role for this actor as far as I
Speaker 2: could tell, So I have to acknowledge the possibility that
Speaker 2: this is just actual Gen sing in this film in
Speaker 2: the same way that this just the Rocket Goblin could
Speaker 2: just be the actual Rocket Goblin. It might not be
Speaker 2: a performance at all.
Speaker 3: The Gen sing child is another character like the mom,
Speaker 3: who alternates between funny action set pieces and then genuinely
Speaker 3: tugging at the heartstrings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a strange character to be sure as well discuss.
Speaker 2: And then finally, the music is attributed to Chick You Lung,
Speaker 2: who was also credited on Magic of Spell. I'm not
Speaker 2: super clear this is Magic of Spell. You mean I'm
Speaker 2: also credited on the Child of Peach. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 2: not sure exactly what the full origin story on the
Speaker 2: music here is. However it comes together. I did really
Speaker 2: like it. It's got some fun electronic vibes in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, are you ready to talk about the plot?
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: So the opening shot of the film pulled me in
Speaker 3: many different directions at once. It's kind of throwing some
Speaker 3: different feelings and tones in a blender because we open
Speaker 3: on a shot of a dirt road cutting through this hazy,
Speaker 3: overcast landscape with a blue gray sky. It kind of
Speaker 3: reminds me of the gloomy, fogged over look of some
Speaker 3: of the exterior scenes in Monty Python and The Holy Grail,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. They're kind of just desolate,
Speaker 3: gloomy gray. And then all around the road are tall
Speaker 3: thickets of weeds blowing in the wind. But then within
Speaker 3: this sad world, we see coming up the road a
Speaker 3: young man carrying this big wooden backpack with a cloth
Speaker 3: canopy mounted over his head, and at first we cannot
Speaker 3: see his face because he is holding a giant, round
Speaker 3: loaf of bread in front of his head like a
Speaker 3: bread mask. So you've got this weird whimsical character image
Speaker 3: within this desolate landscape, and then bouncy whimsical music plays
Speaker 3: to match the character. So this young man makes his
Speaker 3: way down the road, taking big bites of bread while
Speaker 3: he walks. And this is the character we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 3: who at first I think we both thought maybe he
Speaker 3: was a priest or scholar of some kind, but he
Speaker 3: is supposed to be a traveling performer or puppeteer.
Speaker 2: So he's got this backpack.
Speaker 3: That he uses for shrine like purposes that we'll see later,
Speaker 3: and he is going to be this type of character
Speaker 3: who is an eager drifter who wanders around looking for
Speaker 3: a master or mentor to train under, either in martial
Speaker 3: arts or sorcery. And a lot of times this type
Speaker 3: of character, the disciple seeking a master, is played in
Speaker 3: these movies as a kind of dufis or bumpkin who
Speaker 3: provides comic relief, and that is the case here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So he's walking down the road eating this big disc
Speaker 3: of bread which is burned in the middle.
Speaker 2: By the way, do you notice this.
Speaker 3: It's like white on the edges, black in the middle,
Speaker 3: and then it's got a ring of brown around it.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I wonder, Yeah, I don't know what kind
Speaker 2: of traditional bread this might be, and you know, now
Speaker 2: we're supposed to interpret it.
Speaker 3: I actually tried to look up what kind of bread
Speaker 3: this was, and I couldn't get a solid answer. There
Speaker 3: are multiple kinds of round loaves of bread in different
Speaker 3: regional Chinese cuisines, or types of somewhat leavened or unlevened
Speaker 3: Chinese flat breads. I don't think this is a flat bread.
Speaker 3: This does look like.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's a disc shaped, but it's a
Speaker 2: sort of puffy disc. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Anyways, walking down the road eating this bread until he
Speaker 3: walks straight into a three foot deep pit in the
Speaker 3: middle of the path, and then after he falls we
Speaker 3: get the literal sad trombone music cue they use it,
Speaker 3: and then we see there's a sign in the road
Speaker 3: right on the other side of the pit, which is
Speaker 3: a I think it's supposed to be a warning to
Speaker 3: watch out for potholes.
Speaker 2: That would make the most sense comedically, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then later that night, the puppeteer has made camp
Speaker 3: in a forest, and I really like the spooky atmosphere
Speaker 3: and the depth, the depth of composition, and the establishing
Speaker 3: shot of this camp. Like, so we hear crickets chirping
Speaker 3: on the soundtrack, and you have the camp with a
Speaker 3: glowing fire in the foreground, and then these shadowy forking
Speaker 3: tree trunks in the middle distance, and then in the
Speaker 3: deep background there is an unidentifiable white light shining into
Speaker 3: the fog, and I don't know, it makes for a
Speaker 3: really cool scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great setting here.
Speaker 3: So the puppeteer is crouching scattering a line of white
Speaker 3: powder on the ground in a circle around his camp.
Speaker 2: Rob, do you know what this white powder would be?
Speaker 3: I mean, it could just be a magic circle made
Speaker 3: out of anything like chalk. But I was also wondering
Speaker 3: could this be like glutinous rice meal or something.
Speaker 2: That would definitely add up, you know, that would make
Speaker 2: sense based on some of the topics we've covered on
Speaker 2: the show before about like the sacred powers of rice.
Speaker 3: So suddenly he hears a bunch of guttural coughing and
Speaker 3: kind of horking.
Speaker 2: Noises out in the woods. And we then hear the
Speaker 2: howl of the wolf.
Speaker 3: So evil is afoot and he is afraid, trembling with terror,
Speaker 3: he yanks out some incense sticks and he prays to
Speaker 3: his master for help, and then he goes to a
Speaker 3: makeshift shrine that's in his backpack. This might be a
Speaker 3: kind of puppet booth thing turned into a shrine, and
Speaker 3: he offers his master a drink. Meanwhile, nearby, some undead
Speaker 3: ghouls start popping up out of the ground and snarling,
Speaker 3: and here begins what I was thinking of as a
Speaker 3: Mister Magoo style fight scene where the puppeteer accidentally beats
Speaker 3: up the attacking undead. So a few examples of this.
Speaker 3: He's got this drink I think is probably an alcoholic
Speaker 3: beverage of some kind. He throws his head back to
Speaker 3: take a drink, and he head butts and a zombie
Speaker 3: that was sneaking up behind him. And then there's another
Speaker 3: part where a zombie dives to him, but at the
Speaker 3: last second, the puppeteer bends down to eat a meat skewer,
Speaker 3: and so the ghoul misses him and crashes into a tree.
Speaker 3: He he impales one on a stick that he just
Speaker 3: is throwing away over his shoulder.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then finally at the end of the fight, he
Speaker 3: accidentally falls down backwards and crushes a ghoul under his
Speaker 3: his puppet theater backpack. And in my version, when this happens,
Speaker 3: the crushed ghul looks at the camera with glowing green
Speaker 3: eyes and croaks concussion.
Speaker 2: So, in this scene, and also with some some upcoming
Speaker 2: scenes with Peach's mom, we're having what I'm assuming is
Speaker 2: some good natured fun with ancestor veneration, with like the
Speaker 2: offering of various items to the spirit of the deceased,
Speaker 2: but then also maybe having a little bit yourself and
Speaker 2: so forth. Yeah, there's that.
Speaker 3: Well, in this case, I don't know if it's the deceased.
Speaker 3: I think he's making offerings to his master he hasn't
Speaker 3: found yet, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So essentially this will learn his master is Peach Boy.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't know what Peach Boy looks like, right.
Speaker 3: So Anyway, after this, we see the title you know,
Speaker 3: Magic of Spell and Red on the screen, and then
Speaker 3: we get a musical sequence where there is a recap
Speaker 3: of everything you need to know about Peach Boy. We
Speaker 3: see him working out. He's doing squats with a giant
Speaker 3: log the size of a car. He is fighting bad
Speaker 3: guys with a sword that throws electric sparks every time
Speaker 3: it hits their armor. There's one part where he climbs
Speaker 3: into a tree and there's a bird with just a big, bloody,
Speaker 3: gaping wound on it, and he pours white powder on it.
Speaker 3: I guess that's like sulfa powder. So he's tending to
Speaker 3: the needs of the animals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one sequence here. I honestly don't remember if
Speaker 2: this was in Child of Peach or if this is
Speaker 2: something new for this film, but it's pretty great and
Speaker 2: I think it sums up the whole vibe rather well,
Speaker 2: Peach Boy's vibe. So we see some hunters. Hunters see
Speaker 2: some cute bunnies. Hunters shoot an arrow at the bunnies.
Speaker 2: Peach Boy sees this flies through the air, are fast
Speaker 2: enough to catch up with the speeding arrow. Peach raises
Speaker 2: their hand as if to snatch it out of the air,
Speaker 2: but then instead zooms ahead at an even greater speed
Speaker 2: to scoop the bunny out of the way of the arrow. Instead.
Speaker 2: The hunters apologize and leave. Yeah, sorry about that, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then there's also a scene where Peach Boy rescues
Speaker 2: some children or a child from a river like the
Speaker 2: child is or it might be like a swimming hole,
Speaker 2: but anyway, the child's out in the middle of the water.
Speaker 2: And then Peach Boy does a weird thing. I was
Speaker 2: wondering if is it part of.
Speaker 3: The peach Boy lore that Peach Boy can't go in
Speaker 3: the water, because why does Peach Boy not just swim out.
Speaker 3: Peach Boy like throws these buckets out and uses them
Speaker 3: like Super Mario hopping platform.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's some crazy wire effects. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just more impressive to watch Peach Boy. Peach Boy
Speaker 2: doesn't have to get wet because Peach Boy can do
Speaker 2: these things. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But so that's peach Boy for you, Helping animals, helping
Speaker 3: local children, keeping the local poachers on their toes, lawful,
Speaker 3: good child with brutal, vicious magic powers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then we cut to Transylvania. That's right.
Speaker 3: So first we see a model of the castle from
Speaker 3: the outside with lightning peeling across the sky, and then
Speaker 3: we cut to an interior hall in the castle where
Speaker 3: a pair of heavy doors swing open and in walks
Speaker 3: a big parade of evil. So we've got a pale,
Speaker 3: long haired ghost woman dressed all in white with flared
Speaker 3: shoulder pads on her robe. I think this is Little
Speaker 3: Ghost or the pale devil woman that we were talking about,
Speaker 3: probably based on the Yuki ona. And then we have
Speaker 3: the character we were calling Rocket Grimlin or Laser Orc,
Speaker 3: a green fleshed or light creature dressed in silver and
Speaker 3: gold with blonde hair. And then we've got the character
Speaker 3: Rock Rock Demon or Stone.
Speaker 2: This is the huge.
Speaker 3: Muscle man with the ambrose burnside facial hair which is
Speaker 3: green again, the leather apron, the big rock on his shoulder.
Speaker 3: And then you've got the character your subtitles called doctor Mongolia,
Speaker 3: the sort of wusha sorcerer villain with a long black goatee,
Speaker 3: wearing black robes and a cap. And then also just
Speaker 3: a bunch of there's an army, a ghost army, we're told,
Speaker 3: so there are ghosts. They are ghosts in armor with
Speaker 3: pale makeup and fangs, sometimes so kind of vampire looking,
Speaker 3: but dressed up like earthly warriors, wearing armor and carrying
Speaker 3: flags and banners. The flags and banners are those of
Speaker 3: the King Devil aka the demon Elder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who has a great logo. By the way, yes,
Speaker 2: some sort of we're describing it as possibly like a cowskull,
Speaker 2: but also a little bit of a almost kind of
Speaker 2: a cuddlefish vibe to it. It's very Yeah.
Speaker 3: So there's a golden statue on the wall at the
Speaker 3: end of the throne room here, and I was thinking, well,
Speaker 3: it could be a cowskull with horns, because it has
Speaker 3: these big lobes that go off the top of the
Speaker 3: head and split and go out. But it even more
Speaker 3: than horns. Really, it looks like a bunch of hair
Speaker 3: parted in the middle going out to pigtails on the sides.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what it's supposed to be, but
Speaker 2: that is what it looks like.
Speaker 3: And then the face, Yeah, it's partially like a long
Speaker 3: snouted bovine skull with glowing eyes, but it also looks
Speaker 3: a bit like a squid head is like the snout
Speaker 3: could be tentacles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the procession moves up to the head of the
Speaker 3: throne room and you've got the timpany drums going hard
Speaker 3: on the soundtrack. The soldiers in this column are carrying
Speaker 3: something big cauldrons that look like cupped dragon hands, and
Speaker 3: there is a rectangular pool on an elevated platform at
Speaker 3: the head of the hall. When the soldiers reach the pool,
Speaker 3: they tip their cauldrons out and pour just gallons and
Speaker 3: gallons of red liquid, presumably blood into the pool. No,
Speaker 3: it is blood, and they're spilling a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Did you notice this.
Speaker 3: It's there's getting a good amount in the pool, but
Speaker 3: part of it is just spilling over the side. And
Speaker 3: the pool is lined with the statues of golden fish
Speaker 3: that have.
Speaker 2: Like jade eyes.
Speaker 3: These green eyes that are we learn later are light
Speaker 3: bulbs that can light up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Essentially, they're all going to light up if this
Speaker 2: blood bath reaches like maximum potency full power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the golden monster fish with green eyes light
Speaker 3: up in accordance with the potency of the blood pool. Yes,
Speaker 3: so we see the the black Magic Sorcerer. We see
Speaker 3: doctor Mongolia here come up and scatter some green dust
Speaker 3: over the blood in the pool. Did you notice Rob
Speaker 3: that when we see his hand, he's holding this hexagonal
Speaker 3: little canister of magic dust, and he's got the one
Speaker 3: long fingernail, the pinky nail.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I got to use that for maybe for
Speaker 2: measuring out some of these various ingredients, yeah, the biological teaspoon. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But so when he throws the stuff into the pool
Speaker 3: and then we get sparks and the golden monster faced
Speaker 3: fish statues with the jade eyeballs, they start vomiting blood
Speaker 3: into the tank, and the Sorcerer turns around and says,
Speaker 3: welcome elder, and then like a green energy ball zooms
Speaker 3: into the hall from the outside. It electrifies the cow
Speaker 3: squid head at the end of the room, and then
Speaker 3: it spits out a human form, which is a wizened
Speaker 3: old man in a blood red robe over some purple
Speaker 3: undergarments who's got long white hair, a bald head, big
Speaker 3: bushy white eyebrows and mustache and a lot of dark
Speaker 3: eye makeup. His skin is gross. His skin is kind
Speaker 3: of like an overcooked pizza. It's like you see a
Speaker 3: little sauce peeking through. It's kind of white and pink
Speaker 3: and red again the heat, huge white eyebrows, in the
Speaker 3: bushy mustache, his hair. When we first see him as
Speaker 3: just billowing in these gales of magic, he looks really mad. Also,
Speaker 3: I have to notice the texture on the King Devil's
Speaker 3: bald head, so it's a mask of some sort or
Speaker 3: at least some very thick makeup, But I think it's
Speaker 3: actually just like a rubber latex rubber. Yeah, it's a mask,
Speaker 3: and the texture on the bald head has all these
Speaker 3: little lines and channels in it that don't look exactly
Speaker 3: biological in nature. They look almost like a machine. So really,
Speaker 3: his head looks kind of like a death star made
Speaker 3: out of raw chicken.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's pretty gross looking for sure.
Speaker 3: But here the Elder gives a speech. He says, we
Speaker 3: the Evil used to be powerful and almost control the
Speaker 3: human beings, but ever since the Peach Boy appeared to
Speaker 3: fight against us, there is no one survived except us
Speaker 3: out of the Boy's hand. So it seems like Peach
Speaker 3: Boy has defeated all of the ghosts and the Devil's
Speaker 3: and the Evil except them. This is the last bastion
Speaker 3: of evil here at the castle, and they're going to
Speaker 3: make a bid to reassert control over the world. However,
Speaker 3: here's something I alluded to earlier. In the middle of
Speaker 3: giving this evil speech, the Elder Demon suddenly falters and
Speaker 3: he lets out this pathetic coughing fit. So we quite
Speaker 3: early on learn that even though he is the devil
Speaker 3: King and he is very powerful, and he has all
Speaker 3: these magic powers. He is old and ailing beneath all
Speaker 3: of the bluster, and then we see set out before
Speaker 3: him kind of the answer to his ailing health.
Speaker 2: It is the pool of Blood.
Speaker 3: At this point I noticed it looks like it has
Speaker 3: a frothy, pink foam floating on the surface, like a
Speaker 3: bloody bubble bath. It's not exactly deep red and thick
Speaker 3: like you would imagine blood is.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a yeah, well, you know, we have
Speaker 2: doctor Mongolia put an additive in there, you know, clearly,
Speaker 2: and that's probably when we get the frothing. The frothing
Speaker 2: means it's it's working. It's almost time to get in. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you ever like boil fresh, you know, ground up
Speaker 3: perade tomatoes and you're trying to make a tomato sauce
Speaker 3: and reduce them, At first it kind of looks like this.
Speaker 3: It's kind of frothy and pink, and then it deepens,
Speaker 3: but his speech resumes. So the King Devil says, today,
Speaker 3: I want you to swear to me that we're determined
Speaker 3: to terminate the peach Boy. And in response to this,
Speaker 3: one of the Devil's soldiers steps out of formation and
Speaker 3: he protests. He says, but Elder Peach Boy is too tough,
Speaker 3: oh man, And.
Speaker 2: Then we get a dop zoom in.
Speaker 3: No, he does not like to get this kind of feedback,
Speaker 3: so no hesitation. He instantly emits death beams to annihilate
Speaker 3: the complainer. That's really good and uh and at this point,
Speaker 3: uh the sorcerer, Uh, doctor Mongolia. He pipes up with
Speaker 3: this toadying chant.
Speaker 2: He says, we shall follow the elder to kill the boy, and.
Speaker 3: Then all of the ghosts aunt along and we get
Speaker 3: a great villain laugh from the King devil. He just
Speaker 3: laughs and laughs and raises his arms up to the heavens.
Speaker 2: Everyone liked that. Yes, all right? So from here we
Speaker 2: pick back up with Peach Boy's mom. There's some more. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming good natured comedy about ancestor veneration. I mean,
Speaker 2: as with anything, I'm sure somebody didn't like this humor,
Speaker 2: but given that this is like a mainstream family comedy,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that this is all in good fun. And
Speaker 2: then our puppeteer shows up. Wandering puppeteer shows up, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of great back and forth between him
Speaker 2: and Peach Boy's mom. Peach Boy is not here yet. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now regarding yeah, the comedy at the shrine, I think
Speaker 3: I could be wrong about this, but I think maybe
Speaker 3: it was not supposed to be an ancestor she was
Speaker 3: talking to, but her deceased husband.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, because there is a lot of talking
Speaker 2: about it. She was talking about all I don't have
Speaker 2: anyone to quarrel with anymore, and this quarrel with the
Speaker 2: old man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Yeah, the good old day is when
Speaker 3: we would fight about things. She says, they're all a
Speaker 3: sweet memory now. But she's tender to the shrine. She says,
Speaker 3: I make the best cakes for you. I leave the
Speaker 3: best cakes for you. She offers him tobacco products, and
Speaker 3: then the puppeteer wanders into peach Mom's yard in the forest.
Speaker 3: He shows up looking for water. She gives him water.
Speaker 3: He drools everywhere while he's drinking. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: the psychic and deep red again. Then she also gives
Speaker 3: him food, and he hungrily wolfs down the food she
Speaker 3: gives him. She actually gives him the cakes she originally
Speaker 3: put at the shrine. She like goes to the shrine
Speaker 3: and says, you get to eat every day. I'm going
Speaker 3: to feed this guest, so she's being generous, a good,
Speaker 3: good host, hospitable, and then the puppeteer asks her if
Speaker 3: he can offer some of her cakes to his master
Speaker 3: at his shrine. But he also is like cheating a
Speaker 3: little bit at this. He's like offering the cakes to
Speaker 3: his master at the shrine, taking bites.
Speaker 2: Of them as his one.
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I was wondering, like, I can't tell if
Speaker 3: this is a kind of serious theme of the movie
Speaker 3: or just a random gag about taking food away from
Speaker 3: like those venerated in spirit after it has been offered
Speaker 3: to them, or is it trying to say something about
Speaker 3: I don't know, people shirking on traditions in favor of
Speaker 3: their hunger or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would kind of assume that this
Speaker 2: movie is not getting too serious with any of its themes,
Speaker 2: but it could be wrong.
Speaker 3: Peach Mom is kind to the traveler and she likes him,
Speaker 3: but then they get into an argument because they have
Speaker 3: a disagreement over who is the greatest hero. The traveler
Speaker 3: says his master, who he hasn't found yet, is the
Speaker 3: greatest hero, and Peach Mom says no, her son, Peach Boy,
Speaker 3: is the greatest hero. So peach Mom is one of
Speaker 3: these moms who is jealously guarding her son's reputation. You know,
Speaker 3: She's like, he's the best. You're not gonna argue with
Speaker 3: me about that. And then Peach Boy happens to return
Speaker 3: home while the traveler is still scarfing food there, and
Speaker 3: this leads to the revelation that the master the traveler
Speaker 3: has been seeking on his journey is Peach Boy. What luck,
Speaker 3: very very lucky, And then crying, he says, Master, it's
Speaker 3: really hard to find you. And he falls down and
Speaker 3: crushes some of the furniture. But I think Peach Boy
Speaker 3: is going to take him on as a student.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, out in the Haunted Forest, the evil dead or
Speaker 2: fixing each other up so they can continue to hunt
Speaker 2: down the puppeteer.
Speaker 3: I liked this scene a lot. We were really laughing
Speaker 3: at zombie Hospital. So like the skeletons are taping each
Speaker 3: other up with bandages and like testing joints for mobility,
Speaker 3: and then one of the zombies looks at a hole
Speaker 3: in the other zombies' head and says, what a big hole,
Speaker 3: but it's like in this deep, echoing, scary voice, and
Speaker 3: then patches it up with gauze. They tie a bandage
Speaker 3: around the top of his head to pull his jaw
Speaker 3: up like Jacob Marley, and the skeleton says, it hurts,
Speaker 3: I'll revenge, and so he heads off to get his revenge.
Speaker 2: And so then we of course picked back up back
Speaker 2: at the forest hut of Peach. We get some more
Speaker 2: character building and some more jokes. There's this bit where
Speaker 2: the priest is making a hot bath for Peach, and
Speaker 2: there's some jokes about giving Peach a bath, but Peach
Speaker 2: manages just fine without his help.
Speaker 3: I interpreted the joke is that the puppeteer is now
Speaker 3: being too much of a supplicant. You know, he's trying
Speaker 3: to take care of Peach boys every.
Speaker 2: Whim and this is a little bit annoying. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: when he's kind of like pushed aside, then he goes
Speaker 2: back to Peach's mom and it's like, oh, let me
Speaker 2: help you with everything.
Speaker 3: He starts giving her a massage with these feathery drumsticks
Speaker 3: or he's like drumming on her back and he talks
Speaker 3: about his backstory in the scene. He says, as a child,
Speaker 3: he was always bullied and made fun of, so he
Speaker 3: has been seeking a teacher who can give him great powers.
Speaker 3: Then he's gonna once he has these powers, he's going
Speaker 3: to go back and get even with his bullies. And
Speaker 3: Peach Mom says, okay, good reason, and then she asks
Speaker 3: how does he make a living. He explains that he's
Speaker 3: in show business. He does puppet shows. He's very good
Speaker 3: at it, and he offers to give her a demonstration.
Speaker 3: So he sets up like a shadow puppet theater. But
Speaker 3: while he's getting ready to do the puppet show, he
Speaker 3: is attacked by the skeleton from the forest.
Speaker 2: And this is a.
Speaker 3: Scene played for comedy because Peach Mom thinks that the
Speaker 3: attack is the puppet show.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh wow, this is great.
Speaker 3: And eventually they tumble through the screen and Peach Boy
Speaker 3: gets kind of pulled into the fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, pretty hilarious sequence here. Let's see the puppet
Speaker 2: here manages to get his butt bitten by the skeleton
Speaker 2: by the zombie.
Speaker 3: In my version, the skeleton says bite your bottom, gets
Speaker 3: him right on the butt cheek.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when peach jumps into help, she like
Speaker 2: flips him around, and then the puppeteer and the zombie
Speaker 2: end up like lip to lip and then is Peach
Speaker 2: like moves the puppeteer out of the way. The puppeteer
Speaker 2: gets slammed crotch first against a support pole in the hut.
Speaker 2: So a lot of a lot of damage is being
Speaker 2: done to our puppeteer character here. But then Peach makes
Speaker 2: short work of the skeleton, just takes him apart with
Speaker 2: chops and pulling off limbs and so forth. Yeah, snapping
Speaker 2: limbs off the skeleton one at a time while the
Speaker 2: skeleton makes these hilarious yammering sounds. Like.
Speaker 3: Eventually though, Peach Boy has victory. Did you notice that
Speaker 3: while they're squaring off and boxing, the skeleton's arms moved
Speaker 3: like the arms of that little type of like boxing puppet,
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting, And
Speaker 3: I didn't know if that had something to do with
Speaker 3: the the disciple here being a puppeteer.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, so they also could have just been having
Speaker 2: fun with the nature of the special effect, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then we gotta we gotta check back in
Speaker 3: with King Devil. Right, what's going on? How's the bath
Speaker 3: building up?
Speaker 2: Well, the doctor is still getting the bath just right.
Speaker 2: We see him dump a plate full of like snakes
Speaker 2: into the blood path and it seems to be going well.
Speaker 2: We see the lights on the monster fish light up,
Speaker 2: but oh it doesn't light up all the way. The
Speaker 2: blood bath won't fully power up in King Devil is
Speaker 2: not pleased, that's right.
Speaker 3: It fails at the fourth fish. You get three fish
Speaker 3: light up, fourth one. It kind of it peters out.
Speaker 3: So Doctor Mongolia is like, I need more. I need
Speaker 3: some more blood.
Speaker 2: That's right, the blood of a thousand versions to be clear,
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe the spirit of some gin scene
Speaker 2: as well added to that blood bath. This is all
Speaker 2: he need. So he sets out with the ghost Army
Speaker 2: and we see them immediately sacking towns and collecting the
Speaker 2: children of the villagers and putting them into carts, dragging
Speaker 2: them away.
Speaker 3: This was one of those tonal whiplash scenes because the
Speaker 3: comedy of the previous scene is immediately gone and it's
Speaker 3: just this horrifying scene of like children being stolen from
Speaker 3: a town. Yeah, but then you're also thinking, like, what
Speaker 3: is King Devil doing In the meantime, He's just sitting
Speaker 3: in the bath, just having a bath ory soak in
Speaker 3: the blood tub.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, he's in the tub. He's waiting
Speaker 2: for it. To heat up power up. He's not going
Speaker 2: to get back out again, and he's going to be
Speaker 2: cold if he does that.
Speaker 3: So the next big thing after this is the Gensing
Speaker 3: ambush scene, which I loved, Rob Can you describe this all?
Speaker 2: Right? So we're in the mountains and I have to
Speaker 2: have to mention that this this scene really got me
Speaker 2: interested in Jen singh as a topic. We may in
Speaker 2: the near future do some core episodes of stuff to
Speaker 2: blow your mind about Jenseyng because I started reading Gen
Speaker 2: Sing The Divine Root by David A. Taylor, which is
Speaker 2: a great great book thus far and I think is
Speaker 2: very well regarded and talking about gen sying like just
Speaker 2: as as a global topic. But one thing that the
Speaker 2: Taylor mentions in the book is that Jen sing harvesters
Speaker 2: Jen singers, if you will have I think in various
Speaker 2: parts of the world traditionally been a father son duo.
Speaker 2: Where we see that here and we see that here
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, we see I think unnamed gin singers
Speaker 2: out one's an old man, one's a younger adult man.
Speaker 2: They're out there looking for gin sing. They've been tracking it.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things about Jin sing wild
Speaker 2: gen sing like true wild gen sing, especially the older varieties,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be harder to find. You really have to
Speaker 2: know what you're looking for. It can be very subtle,
Speaker 2: and so there does seem to be a certain skill,
Speaker 2: almost an art to it.
Speaker 3: And this setting appears to be a secluded, almost hidden
Speaker 3: or protected kind of setting. It's this forest clearing in
Speaker 3: the mountains, surrounded by tall cliffs, and the Ginseng harvesters,
Speaker 3: the old man and his son are setting out a
Speaker 3: bunch of toys on the ground, and then they go
Speaker 3: hide in the bushes to watch what happens. And so
Speaker 3: what's the logic of the toys here?
Speaker 2: While the older.
Speaker 3: Man explains to the younger one the gen sing king
Speaker 3: is a kid. Only the toys can attract it, can
Speaker 3: attract it. And then the Gensing harvester's son says, your
Speaker 3: experience always fails.
Speaker 2: But yeah.
Speaker 3: So they're sitting there waiting and then the moon glows yellow,
Speaker 3: it zaps the ground with lightning, the earth cracks open,
Speaker 3: a child in a giant root costume comes up, starts
Speaker 3: like coming out of the out of the soil with
Speaker 3: tindril snaking out everywhere, and then obviously the Gensing harvesters
Speaker 3: are excited because here's like the big Gensing this is
Speaker 3: the one that this is the real payday. But unfortunately,
Speaker 3: our evil doctor arrives on the scene. He kills the
Speaker 3: Gensing harvesters with flying needles, and he tries to catch
Speaker 3: the Gensen Kid but fails and ends up just pulling
Speaker 3: up a giant radish or turn up that's like bigger
Speaker 3: than his own body.
Speaker 2: Right, hitting enormous turn up instead, and yeah, that's when
Speaker 2: the gen singers laugh at him, and he kills him
Speaker 2: with needles, and he's like, oh, the boss is not
Speaker 2: going to be happy with this. I need something else instead.
Speaker 2: A thousand year old Gensing Peach boy, that's what I
Speaker 2: need to collect to put into the soup.
Speaker 3: But he does say that the Gensing Kid would be
Speaker 3: good medicine.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: In this scene, and this is a recurring theme in
Speaker 3: the movie many times, the doctor observes that there is
Speaker 3: a thing or person which, if chucked in, would improve
Speaker 3: the restorative power of the King Devil's bloodpool, and he says,
Speaker 3: that's good medicine. So the next scene, we're going to
Speaker 3: go back to Peach Kid's house. All of the villagers
Speaker 3: show up there it's a big crowd of people, and
Speaker 3: they're saying, help us, our kids have been taken by
Speaker 3: the elder demon. Peach Boy here's what they have to say,
Speaker 3: and promises to help them. And then he talks to
Speaker 3: his mom. In my translation, the subtitle said, Mom, the
Speaker 3: devil is raging again. Those kids are pathetic. We have
Speaker 3: to help them.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 3: So after and then after this, peach Boy goes and
Speaker 3: prays to a statue. I think this was supposed to
Speaker 3: be a Buddha. They didn't say that.
Speaker 2: They just say a god refers to the statue as
Speaker 2: a god, but the goodness of the Buddha is repeatedly
Speaker 2: referred to in this movie. And whoever the statue is.
Speaker 2: He prays that the god will sweep the raging devil
Speaker 2: from the edge of the world and leave the innocent
Speaker 2: to live in peace. Yeah. Subtitles and dubbing for films
Speaker 2: of this nature, you know, for like Hong Kong action films,
Speaker 2: Taiwanese action films and so forth, they often really simplify
Speaker 2: things to sort of a Buddha versus devil dichotomy that
Speaker 2: is probably not you know, accurate even to what is
Speaker 2: presented any given film. Yeah, but you roll with it
Speaker 2: because it's just kind of this kind of the culture
Speaker 2: of these things. There you go.
Speaker 3: So then we get some preparations for adventure. Of course,
Speaker 3: the one short the puppeteer is sitting there getting ready
Speaker 3: and he's obsessively sharpening one knife that we will get
Speaker 3: to see him use against the bad guys. He is
Speaker 3: a coward, he is naive, but he does kind of
Speaker 3: put up a fight in a few scenes, and he's
Speaker 3: going to use this knife.
Speaker 2: He will show great courage. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, peach mom is helping prepare them for the adventure.
Speaker 3: She's wrapping some kind of food I think maybe dumplings
Speaker 3: or rice cakes or something in leaves for the road,
Speaker 3: and she starts telling one short about how the ghosts
Speaker 3: will drink his blood and boil him in oil, and
Speaker 3: he doesn't like this and gets really scared.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It starts off with her saying you need to
Speaker 2: look after him, you need to look after Peach boy,
Speaker 2: make sure he's warm at night. And then but then
Speaker 2: it becomes like, oh, yeah, the devils are going to
Speaker 2: come for you too. They're going to eat you and
Speaker 2: drink your blood, and it really takes its toll on him, so.
Speaker 3: He gets upset until another traveler arrives at the house.
Speaker 3: So this is somebody who claims to be the father
Speaker 3: of a boy who has taken from the village, asking
Speaker 3: for Peach Kid's help. But uh, oh, it's somebody in disguise.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is the doctor Doctor Mongolia or doctor Demon
Speaker 2: who shows up and does this kind of like spin
Speaker 2: around and disguises himself as his father seeking the return
Speaker 2: of a devil stolen child, and she meets with Peach's mom.
Speaker 2: Peach isn't there yet and says, here, give Peach this.
Speaker 2: It's a special keepsake, a doll perhaps, but it's just
Speaker 2: this little box and you just want to yell at
Speaker 2: the screen. Don't trust him, mom. Yeah, he says, it's
Speaker 2: his family's lucky doll. And then so Peach Boy shows
Speaker 2: up and she's like, oh, here, you know this is
Speaker 2: from the sky, but it's a trap.
Speaker 3: When he opens it, it is a little devil skull
Speaker 3: with light up eyes, and the eyes flash and then
Speaker 3: there's a puff of gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, puff of toxic gas right to Peach Boy's face
Speaker 2: and oh man, now we get a big fight scene
Speaker 2: and it is amazing. So you had notes on this one. Right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, go ahead. So Peach is down. At this point,
Speaker 2: Doctor Mongolia transforms back into his normal form and he
Speaker 2: laughs maniacally and one short decides, Okay, I need to
Speaker 2: do what's right. I need to run up and protect
Speaker 2: Peach and Peach's mom, at which point Doctor Mongolia delivers
Speaker 2: one of the most thorough butt whoopings in cinematic history.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. So he kicks the puppeteer into the stairs,
Speaker 2: and then the puppeteer has that knife we were just
Speaker 2: talking about. He stabs the doctor with it. But then
Speaker 2: the doctor pulls the blade out of himself clean I think,
Speaker 2: snaps the blade, administers a flurry of attacks that include
Speaker 2: a kick and a face chop, and then he punctuates
Speaker 2: all of this against the puppeteer by lifting him up
Speaker 2: in a dead lift power bomb, spins him around, and
Speaker 2: drives the puppeteer through a wooden barrel, shattering the wooden
Speaker 2: barrel in slow motion, just absolute perfection. Was not expecting
Speaker 2: a full blown power bomb in this movie, but there
Speaker 2: you have it.
Speaker 3: I'm always glad when we look at action movies like
Speaker 3: this that you you are there to know the names
Speaker 3: of the moves. I don't reckonize, I just know he
Speaker 3: slammed him into furniture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, it's amazing. So at this point, the
Speaker 2: action continues because the Doc moves into attack Peach because
Speaker 2: again he wants to take Peach Boy back and throw
Speaker 2: him into that bloodmath. He busts out a bottle of
Speaker 2: noxious gas that that he sprays Peach Boy with. This
Speaker 2: causes Peach Boy to stumble and begin to like kind
Speaker 2: of foment the mouth or even vomit.
Speaker 3: He's vomiting some white milky substance like like ash an alien.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Peach, Peach is tough. Peach mounts to comeback
Speaker 2: by doing a series of standing backflips that allows her
Speaker 2: to then launch herself off the wall with a flying
Speaker 2: punch to the doctor's forehead. The Doc then is back
Speaker 2: on his feet. He busts out a pair of these.
Speaker 2: It's an actual like ancient Chinese flail type weapon called
Speaker 2: flaming meteor hammers, and these are indeed flaming, well they're
Speaker 2: meteor hammers, but then his version is a flaming meteor hammer.
Speaker 3: And so like there's the sort of like little metal
Speaker 3: cups that are on fire and attached to chains. Yeah,
Speaker 3: throws them out to try to hit Peach boy with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so, you know, a fantastic variation on some
Speaker 2: sort of an actual flail weapon, and we get this
Speaker 2: tense battle. Peach is wounded, crashes through a table, but
Speaker 2: then manages to catch both meteor hammers, overpowers the dock
Speaker 2: smashing the weapon, pulls him to the floor, and then
Speaker 2: lifts him up over her head, spins him around, and
Speaker 2: throws him out the front door into the yard. Now,
Speaker 2: at this point, the doctor needs to bust out a
Speaker 2: new strategy. He's all about strategy. We see that later
Speaker 2: as well. So time to play some music. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: busts out this little horn. He kind of he dances.
Speaker 2: He does this kind of like traditional dance. It almost
Speaker 2: seems like a break dance. At one point, this Summon's
Speaker 2: lightning along with a squad of Ghost soldiers and two
Speaker 2: additional underlings. We got Stone, the big rock Demon and
Speaker 2: then also the Rocket Goblin and Rocket Goblin just starts
Speaker 2: blowing stuff up all over the place, and Peach busts
Speaker 2: out her katana sword and uh oh, the action really
Speaker 2: gets intense here. So Peach is attacking enemies. Mom gets
Speaker 2: in on it. She's like, she like busts a ghost
Speaker 2: soldier over the head with some pottery or something. We
Speaker 2: get some grapes. Yeah, Mom's doing a part. She's you know,
Speaker 2: she's brave. But in the midst of this combat, like
Speaker 2: first of all, it's a numbers game, Like Peach is
Speaker 2: fighting really hard, but they're just too many enemies and
Speaker 2: eventually Mom is tragically stabbed in the back by a
Speaker 2: random ghost soldier. Very emotional scene as Mom dies in
Speaker 2: Peach Boy's arms.
Speaker 3: Around here is the part I mentioned earlier that actually
Speaker 3: made me sad, with the montage of like the mom
Speaker 3: growing up with Peach Boy and you know, feeding him
Speaker 3: all the plates of food while Peach Boy and sitting
Speaker 3: on top of the log while Peach boys doing the squats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching or rewatching this scene early afternoon.
Speaker 2: My child's at school, and I'm just like, oh, I
Speaker 2: just want to hug them. I need my Peach child.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, so things are looking grim. Peach is
Speaker 2: wounded but keeps fighting. But we reach the point where
Speaker 2: Stone and the Rocket Goblin have her all but defeated
Speaker 2: the remaining soldiers. These two enemies. Also, the doctor is
Speaker 2: there as well. They're moving in to get her. She collapses,
Speaker 2: But then what rises up out of the well but
Speaker 2: a giant, floating, glowing peach, which takes out most of
Speaker 2: the remaining soldiers with a flurry of laser blasts like
Speaker 2: Star Wars, and the bad guys just have to run
Speaker 2: for the hills. Yeah, laser Peach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the Peach just disappears, doesn't it does?
Speaker 3: It doesn't remain for the rest of the adventures.
Speaker 2: Right right, Peach goes away. I guess this is like
Speaker 2: sort of like the Guardian Peach spirit because with then
Speaker 2: then we cut to the others and it looks for
Speaker 2: a minute here like everyone has been killed, like Peach
Speaker 2: is laid out, the puppeteer is laid out. We we
Speaker 2: we believe that Peach's mom is dead as well, and
Speaker 2: then we cut to her funeral, to the to Peach
Speaker 2: Peach's Mom's funeral, and this is where we get to
Speaker 2: learn that, Okay, it does look like like child of
Speaker 2: Peach is okay. It looks like the puppeteer is okay,
Speaker 2: And out of nowhere pheasant, dog and monkey are here
Speaker 2: as well, the sort of animal hybrid fairy children friends
Speaker 2: from the first film, and they are absolutely not reintroduced
Speaker 2: for the audience here.
Speaker 3: It does not tell you who they are. Suddenly, they're
Speaker 3: just here at the grave and they're along for the adventure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the person crying the most at the grave side
Speaker 3: is one short the puppeteer.
Speaker 2: But he's a sensitive soul. And then he loved her
Speaker 2: to everyone loved mom. Yeah. Yeah, and flash more flashback
Speaker 2: scenes here to sad stuff for the first film. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a tear jerk.
Speaker 3: Here the movie transitions into Okay, it's time for us
Speaker 3: to go confront the bad guys. So they're going to
Speaker 3: start traveling to the bad guy's castle, and we get
Speaker 3: to see them walking through some genuinely beautiful locations, like
Speaker 3: excellent use of the landscape in this movie.
Speaker 2: Absolutely like a great shoreline scene, rocky shoreline, a wonderful
Speaker 2: antique bridge. Some great scenes here for sure. And then
Speaker 2: meanwhile the evil henchmen are up to something as well.
Speaker 2: At first, it seems like maybe they're setting an ambush
Speaker 2: for Peach, but no, it is an ambush for Gin Singh.
Speaker 2: They're putting out this time instead of I mean there
Speaker 2: are some toys, but they've put out some shoes, some pinwheels,
Speaker 2: some articles of clothing, and some sort of like a
Speaker 2: hobby horse. And then they hide in the bushes.
Speaker 3: And once again the lightning electrifies the ground and the
Speaker 3: gin singking comes out, and it is this child who
Speaker 3: is very excited to play with his new toys.
Speaker 2: At first, though first he dances a little bit. Oh
Speaker 2: he's a good dance. And he goes on a lot
Speaker 2: longer than you think it will. But you know, he's
Speaker 2: been in the ground a long time. He needs to
Speaker 2: he needs to move, and so I support.
Speaker 3: It in my version when he I wonder what it
Speaker 3: said in yours. My subtitles when he came out of
Speaker 3: the ground said I'm too dull. When he starts dancing.
Speaker 2: I got that as well. Okay, yeah, so yeah, he
Speaker 2: has to dance a little bit. But then he starts
Speaker 2: checking out the stuff that's been left out, and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: some shoes, I'll put those on, you know, some clothes,
Speaker 2: I'll put those on. When he checks out the pin wheels,
Speaker 2: Doctor Mongolia does something with one of his poison canisters
Speaker 2: and it causes poison gas to shoot out of the
Speaker 2: pin wheels at gen Sing Boy here, but Jensing Boy
Speaker 2: just kind of like coughs a little bit and then
Speaker 2: just keeps checking out the gusts. He says, ooh, it stinks,
Speaker 2: and then goes over to one of the other things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the ship, the trap is already sprung, but he's still
Speaker 2: checking out the bait. But then finally he realized is
Speaker 2: it and he says, my subtitle said, anyway, seems bad
Speaker 2: guys are after me. Yeah, and the Hinchman attack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they go up and sort of capture him.
Speaker 3: They capture him on a pole, but then the Gensing
Speaker 3: kid does an awesome move where he extends out of
Speaker 3: his arm a giant like whip or vine sort of thing,
Speaker 3: and like Indiana Jones swings across the chasm, Indiana Gensing
Speaker 3: swings to the other side of the cliffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all while rocket Goblin blasts at him and like
Speaker 2: causes all these explosions in the cliff side. So it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's overpowering. The Gensing escapes.
Speaker 3: He escapes and actually meets up with our heroes in
Speaker 3: the next scene. So Peach Boy one Short and the
Speaker 3: three animals are making camp in the mountains, and I
Speaker 3: think it's that they see like a little root reaching
Speaker 3: out of the leaves to try to take a cake
Speaker 3: from their basket, and Peach Boy stops it. But then
Speaker 3: they realize, oh, it's you know, Jenseng kid is hurt here.
Speaker 3: So Peach Boy gives him some kind of medicine they have.
Speaker 3: It's like a really potent kind of medicine that he
Speaker 3: was supposed to be saving for himself, but he's very
Speaker 3: selfless and kind, so he gives it to the injured
Speaker 3: gen Sing boy, and Genseng boy is like, hey, you
Speaker 3: are really nice and maybe I'll see you again.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Peach and gen Sing are fast friends, and
Speaker 2: we have some great comedy here as well, because once
Speaker 2: because Jensing reveals that he is in fact a thousand
Speaker 2: year old gen Sing, which the idea here is that
Speaker 2: genseyng grows for a very long time, becomes more potent
Speaker 2: the longer it is in the ground, especially in wild varieties. Now,
Speaker 2: I will say that it is I think broadly thought
Speaker 2: and could be mistaken in this because I haven't really
Speaker 2: done all my gen sying research yet, but I think
Speaker 2: there is like a tipping point in the gin Sing
Speaker 2: where once it's been in the ground for like twenty
Speaker 2: years or so, it's kind of reach maybe maximum potency,
Speaker 2: but older gen sing is worth more. The idea that
Speaker 2: a thousand year old gen Sing would just be almost
Speaker 2: a miracle product is I think wrapped up more in
Speaker 2: the folklore and the superstition. But the idea that this
Speaker 2: is the thousand year old gin Sing almost irresistible. That's
Speaker 2: good medicine. And one short realizes this and he keeps
Speaker 2: sort of trying like he can't resist. He's like like,
Speaker 2: can I just have a bite of gensey? Can I
Speaker 2: nibble the roots just a little bit? And they're all like, no,
Speaker 2: leave him alone. Yeah, they keep him in line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So Jensing leaves and the crew continues their journey towards
Speaker 2: the castle. But then this is kind of confusing. It's
Speaker 2: kind of felt like maybe a scene out of sequence
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, because the gen Sing then shows up
Speaker 2: at a Buddhist shrine during a lightning storm, and then
Speaker 2: the ghost army with the henchmen and King Devil himself
Speaker 2: show up to claim him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the doctor i think in the scene explains
Speaker 3: to King Devil like, hey, you need to eat that.
Speaker 3: It will rejuvenate. You tried to catch the Gensen kid,
Speaker 3: but the Jensen kid very cleverly runs to a Buddhist
Speaker 3: shrine with it with a big statue of a Buddha,
Speaker 3: which protects him by shooting laser blasts at the ghost army.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, much Buddha magic ensues. A sacred Buddhist script
Speaker 2: from a glowing stone ends up I think teleporting the
Speaker 2: enemies away after the initial laser blasts, and then the
Speaker 2: stone does something to Gensing like draws him in like
Speaker 2: a magnet. But I don't know. Something good happens as
Speaker 2: far as I can tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my subtitles did not say what the writing on
Speaker 3: the stone said, so I'm not sure the significance of it.
Speaker 3: But it seemed to be a kind of blessing, blessing
Speaker 3: from the Buddha. Maybe that was going to power up
Speaker 3: the gen sing even more.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe so Buddhist magic intensifies as well. I can,
Speaker 2: I can, I can figure out this part also has
Speaker 2: This part also should be a whare it has use
Speaker 2: of the swastika, but obviously it is the traditional religious
Speaker 2: use of the swast not the Nazi appropriation. Correct. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we're doing assume this is a positive image tied to,
Speaker 2: you know, ideas of equanimity and infinity. Yeah. We cut
Speaker 2: back to the castle at this point and King Devil
Speaker 2: has learned is told that hey, Peach and crew have
Speaker 2: made it as far as the Evil Woods, which I
Speaker 2: assume is like maybe just right outside, too close for comfort.
Speaker 2: And so King Devil says, all right, miss white White demon,
Speaker 2: Lady of the Snow, you go out and deal with them,
Speaker 2: and she's like, all right, i'll be I'll go take
Speaker 2: care of it.
Speaker 3: This scene where she's stalking them in the trees over
Speaker 3: their camp actually has some quite creepy looking shots. There's
Speaker 3: someone where she leans out from a tree limb and
Speaker 3: she looks like, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, it's spooky.
Speaker 3: But then it's funny because that is immediately contrasted with
Speaker 3: comedy scenes where like her hair gets singed and she's
Speaker 3: very very self conscious about that.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, And so then at that point seems like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is just gonna be played for laughs, but no,
Speaker 2: this is the sort of movie where you can have
Speaker 2: laughs and then just furious action because we get a
Speaker 2: great battle in the woods here at night, you know,
Speaker 2: very atmospheric lots of frost blasts from the demon, flying
Speaker 2: attacks from all concerned. Peach ends up inhaling the campfire
Speaker 2: and then breathing fire out at the White Demon to
Speaker 2: seal the victory. Amazing, and then Jensing finds them again,
Speaker 2: and then we just kind of cut to the crew
Speaker 2: busting down the doors to King Devil's inner chambers. It's like,
Speaker 2: all right, we're here now. And I think at this point,
Speaker 2: it's like we had maybe twenty minutes left in the film,
Speaker 2: maybe thirty, but you realize at this point, like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: it's just going to be NonStop from here on out.
Speaker 2: This is just going to be one big boss battle
Speaker 2: and it does not disappoint. I ended up making a
Speaker 2: whole list like bullet point notes when I rewatched this
Speaker 2: action sequence. I don't even know if it makes sense
Speaker 2: to go through all of these, but I have them
Speaker 2: in the notes here. Let's go through as many as
Speaker 2: makes sense. So one thing we have to mention is
Speaker 2: the Peach bowling scene. Oh god, yes.
Speaker 3: So the soldiers start running at our heroes in different formations.
Speaker 3: They're calling out formations, you know, formation number one, and
Speaker 3: so they organize in one way and charge and each time,
Speaker 3: the peach kid creates a giant peach bowling ball that
Speaker 3: bowls into them and knocks them over like pins.
Speaker 2: So that's very good.
Speaker 3: And then eventually one of the bad guys is like,
Speaker 3: stop doing formations, I think because the formations are causing
Speaker 3: them to line up like bowling pins. Yeah, so just
Speaker 3: run at them. So they do that and that works better,
Speaker 3: and then there's just a big melee fight with some
Speaker 3: really excellent fight choreography once again, like some great stunts
Speaker 3: and good fast paced fighting.
Speaker 2: But then lots of comedy thrown in there as well.
Speaker 2: There's a great bit where one short is trying to
Speaker 2: get in on the combat and the ghost soldiers won't
Speaker 2: attack him, and he says, hey, why won't you attack me,
Speaker 2: and the ghost so just says something like well, there's
Speaker 2: not a light above you, so I don't attack you.
Speaker 2: And then one short it's like, who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2: You've got to explain this to me. Explain yourself, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the ghost is like, well, we only attack
Speaker 3: people who are surrounded by light. And in my subtitles,
Speaker 3: he says, light means you have hope in your life
Speaker 3: and so because you don't have hope in your life,
Speaker 3: there's no light around you, so you're not worth attacking. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which it kind of reminds me of in Treehouse of
Speaker 3: Horror when the zombies are going around looking for brain
Speaker 3: and then they go to Homer and he's trying to
Speaker 3: sacrifice himself but they just move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're like nothing here, I'm not interested. So
Speaker 2: it's like that.
Speaker 3: But then the ghost finally decides, okay, I'll kill you anyway,
Speaker 3: and he's about to stab him with the trident, but
Speaker 3: then I think it is the ghost, the demon woman,
Speaker 3: the ghost ye intervenes. She's like, no, no, no, don't
Speaker 3: you hurt him. This boy's mind.
Speaker 2: He complimented my hair earlier. Yeah, and then she seduces
Speaker 2: him successfully.
Speaker 3: We don't follow them into the bedroom, but she he
Speaker 3: just like wraps a scarf around his neck and slowly
Speaker 3: leads him out of the room into an adjoining chamber.
Speaker 3: And then you're gonna see him. You're gonna see them
Speaker 3: both emerge separately later looking I don't know, very self satisfied.
Speaker 2: Yes, So at this point we get just more crazy
Speaker 2: sword play, more just insane wire martial arts action. The
Speaker 2: three kids, their pheasant, monkey, and dog are just absolutely
Speaker 2: kicking butt. There's more shenanigans, like one of the three
Speaker 2: kids uses some sort of like a seesaw action on
Speaker 2: the crotches of the of the ghost soldiers.
Speaker 3: I think it's monkey. The bird kid, the pheasant kid
Speaker 3: or chicken kid gets very violent because one of their
Speaker 3: hands is a wing and the other hand is a
Speaker 3: bird like a chicken head, a bird head, and starts
Speaker 3: pecking out ghost Soldiers' eyes, like pecking holes in them,
Speaker 3: and they're all bloody.
Speaker 2: It's gross. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty amazing. Peach meanwhile, just
Speaker 2: killing it, just just furious action. Cannot overstress that goblin
Speaker 2: is blowing stuff up with this rocket launcher or whatever
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: How about when Stone the Stone Warrior transforms into a
Speaker 3: literal stone, just rock with a face.
Speaker 2: Into like a giant rock muppet head that begins sliding
Speaker 2: across the floor and they all have to hammer it.
Speaker 2: It eats a club that one of the kids tries
Speaker 2: to use against it.
Speaker 3: A little dog, Yeah, little dog is trying to beat
Speaker 3: it because of course Peach Boy has a sword and
Speaker 3: the sword doesn't work against a rock. As we know
Speaker 3: from the same rock, paper scissors. You can't beat a
Speaker 3: beat a rock with a blade, but maybe the bone
Speaker 3: will work because the dog's bone is like a hammer.
Speaker 2: So it starts hammering on the rock.
Speaker 3: But then the yeah, it just chomps up the bone
Speaker 3: like the little rock mouth grinds it up until Peach
Speaker 3: magically transforms his sword into a giant sledgehammer and then smashes.
Speaker 2: Up the rock. Yeah, just absolutely destroys this rock with
Speaker 2: a giant hammer.
Speaker 3: This they defeat the rocket Grimlin as well. They end
Speaker 3: up pulling his ears and doing something. I think there's
Speaker 3: a Peach related attack. And then there is a horrible
Speaker 3: scene where the King Devil is like, you know these
Speaker 3: three animals, I'm gonna absorb them and does something like
Speaker 3: like yanks them magically into the blood pool, and I
Speaker 3: guess they just get melted down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, suddenly they're part of the blood pool. Oh and
Speaker 2: did we mention that the White Devil lady she also
Speaker 2: was taken out by the three kids in particular, Pheasant
Speaker 2: use that pheasant arm to like peck her eye out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then she turns into a puddle of white goo
Speaker 2: right right after all three kids use some sort of
Speaker 2: triple triple team energy blast effect on her. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not long after that the King Devil's apps all
Speaker 2: three of them into the blood bath and absorbs their power.
Speaker 2: Peach jumps in, drives her sword through Devil's mouth, like
Speaker 2: all the way up to the hilt, but he's already
Speaker 2: too strong for that to stop him. He just spits
Speaker 2: this sword back out. Yeah. Yeah. Doctor Mongolia at this
Speaker 2: point pronounces he's like, Devil King has now absorbed enough
Speaker 2: power to be young again. Hooray. But then at this point,
Speaker 2: a returning loved up one short trips accidentally knocks the
Speaker 2: doctor into the bath, and the Devil absorbs his power too.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're part of this now too. He has
Speaker 2: become good medicine. Yes, yeah, and so we knew we
Speaker 2: were going to get here. At this point, the Devil
Speaker 2: is fully charged. King Devil has full power again and
Speaker 2: will transform into his youthful form once more. Yeah again.
Speaker 2: Looks like a like a wushaw villain and a seventy
Speaker 2: stage magician matched together. It's got the vampire fangs, big hair,
Speaker 2: and just a lot of furious energy. The wind blown hair,
Speaker 2: wind blown costume. All the stops.
Speaker 3: So I think Initially, there's a battle between King Devil
Speaker 3: in this rejuvenated form and Peach Boy, and it's tough.
Speaker 3: Peach Boy can't really withstand it. But a quite bizarre
Speaker 3: intervention occurs. So one short I think after this love
Speaker 3: making session with the ghost Woman has been also she
Speaker 3: sucked his blood. I think he's drained of blood. So
Speaker 3: he says, I need blood. So he drinks blood from
Speaker 3: the blood pool, the magic rejuvenating blood pool, which then
Speaker 3: transforms him into a giant baby with a lollipop, and
Speaker 3: then he starts. He thinks King the King Devil is
Speaker 3: his dad and runs around saying like, I love you dad.
Speaker 3: You know I need a kiss, and King Devil is
Speaker 3: so weird it out He's like, no, I'm not your dad,
Speaker 3: just running around from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah. At this point we get full blown
Speaker 2: Benny Hill Shenanigans with flying and teleportation. We've gone in
Speaker 2: just a full comedy mode.
Speaker 3: And this is when the intervention of gensing becomes becomes unavoidable.
Speaker 3: You've got to have some gensing power up in order
Speaker 3: to defeat this rejuvenated devil. So the gen Sing Boy
Speaker 3: walks into the room and is like, I know what
Speaker 3: you gotta do, Peach boy, you gotta eat me.
Speaker 2: That's right. There's a moment of sadness for those who
Speaker 2: have passed. But yeah, Jensing makes the ultimate sacrifice. He
Speaker 2: like uses one of his root tentacles to like pop
Speaker 2: Peach in the throat, making her mouth open, and then
Speaker 2: gen Sing like becomes small again like becomes the size
Speaker 2: of an actual gen Sing root and then launches himself
Speaker 2: into Peach's mouth. Peach swallows the thousand year old Gen
Speaker 2: Sing and then takes on the full Buddha power of
Speaker 2: the root. We get a full like mystical Buddhist power
Speaker 2: up scene where we see the gen Sing root kind
Speaker 2: of like growing and glowing inside her. She goes into
Speaker 2: a meditative pose and we get all sorts of cool
Speaker 2: light effects. But now we have finally reached the point
Speaker 2: where where Peach has taken on the full magic of
Speaker 2: spell and proceeds to just administer a massive butt whooping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peach Boy now destroys King Devil, just beating him
Speaker 3: against the pillars of the room and smashing through rocks.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of electricity in this fight. I
Speaker 3: think the beouta power gives him electrical energy yep.
Speaker 2: There also the pillar gets knocked over destroyed. She throws
Speaker 2: the pillar at King Devil and then the pillar is
Speaker 2: like cartoon steamroller style. It's like rolled over King Devil
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, very good.
Speaker 3: I don't actually remember what is the final move that
Speaker 3: Peach Boy uses to kill the King Devil?
Speaker 2: What's the She administers a few more electrical strikes and
Speaker 2: then she finishes him off with like a super powered
Speaker 2: infinity strike where we get that symbol on the palm
Speaker 2: right before she strikes, and the strike is just so
Speaker 2: potent that it knocks the spirits of a dog, pheasan,
Speaker 2: and monkey out of King Devil and then they rematerialize
Speaker 2: on the ground behind him. King Devil's by falls over
Speaker 2: dead instantly, ages to like a thousand years and then
Speaker 2: turns to dust that scattered to the four winds. Awesome.
Speaker 2: And then we just have our surviving heroes, which are
Speaker 2: again the three kids, Peach Boy and the puppeteer, and
Speaker 2: they're like, where should we go? And depending on the subtitles,
Speaker 2: they either say to Paradise or to the peach farm.
Speaker 3: My subtitle said, let's go to Paradise. And then they
Speaker 3: jump up in the air and fly.
Speaker 2: Away, yeah, freeze frame, and then we get this cool
Speaker 2: theme music playing over the credits. It's a satisfying end
Speaker 2: as long as you don't stop for a second and say, hey,
Speaker 2: what happened to all those children that were kidnapped for
Speaker 2: the blood bath? And then you realize, oh, I guess
Speaker 2: they couldn't save any of them that. No, yeah, they
Speaker 2: became the bloodbath because it was all powered up. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So they don't really address that. But I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: I think they got there too late to help out
Speaker 2: with that particular problem.
Speaker 3: But the three animals were saved. They save by the
Speaker 3: power of the Buddha, so they were recover.
Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: If the power of the Buddha could unmelt the three
Speaker 3: animals out of the blood pool, couldn't the power of
Speaker 3: the Buddha also unmelt all of the other children, Because
Speaker 3: that does happen and we just don't see it.
Speaker 2: This is a larger theological question we've wandered into. That
Speaker 2: is that is beyond the scope of magic of spell.
Speaker 2: But I think the main take homes here are that
Speaker 2: friendship has won, vengeance has been achieved, and evil has
Speaker 2: been defeated. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe that good medicine is not always the answer, and
Speaker 3: there are there is good good medicine, and there's bad
Speaker 3: good medicine. And sometimes the only way to beat bad
Speaker 3: good medicine is with good good medicine. And the only
Speaker 3: way to make good good medicine really good is by
Speaker 3: friendship and sacrifice and the power of the Buddha.
Speaker 2: I would say, I think so, I think so. All right,
Speaker 2: there you have it, Magic of Spell. It is a party,
Speaker 2: a party worth attending in my opinion, very much. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a hit. All right, Well, we're going to
Speaker 2: go ahead and close out this episode of Weird House Cinema,
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