1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: We're still cooking at the Combine in Indianapolis. Mark Vandamar 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: and John Harris with you. Welcome to the program Texans 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: All Access Tonight, we'll have Greg co sell In less 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: than a minute, you'll hear what the guy from NFL Films, 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: who breaks down more films than just about anybody except 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: for John Harris has to say about the Houston Texans 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: and the NFL at large. Johnny's gonna break down some players, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: some old lineman, some tackles he saw working out this morning. 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: And in our final segment, Alex Marvez sirius XM NFL Radio, 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: he'll report in on what he's been observing around the 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: league and here at the Combine. But let's kick it 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: off with our buddy Greg co Celso. Greg, it's great 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: to see you. Here we go again, Mark, what's happening? John? 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Hey doing? Buddy doing well? It is Greg. The Combine 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: is here, and this is always a great time because 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: it it merges our two loves, the NFL and the 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: draft in college football, and it brings them together in 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: a really cool environment, which you measure. This year, by 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: the way, I measured six foot two thirty and my 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: forty time is five to eight. There you go. I 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: have eight drive it in five at all, right, Greg, 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about college players right now. 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Deshaun Watson because that's what 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: the fans want to hear. Your evaluation, if you will, 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: of his first full season as a starter for the 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. I like to Shaun Watson, I think that 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: you have to put his play in the overall perspective 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: of the offense. I think that to Sean because the 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: offensive line certainly struggled and probably needs work. And it's funny. 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I saw Coach O'Brien as I was walking over here, 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I have something very profound 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: to say to you. After hours of film study, I 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: think the offensive line needs to get a little better. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: And we were laughing about that. But I think because 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: the offensive line clearly was a little bit makeshift, you know, 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: not what they wanted when the season started. I think 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: to Sean struggled at times to find that balance between 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: staying in the pocket and leaving too soon. And my 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: senses and I only he could tell you this. I'm 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: just watching the tape, but my senses and this is 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: perfectly normal in these situations is he started to anticipate 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the pressure and started to perceive pressure when at times 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: it wasn't there, just because it happened so often that 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: he was expecting it to happen. So I think that 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: he's a nice throw of the football. I think he 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: sees things pretty well, but he just needs to find 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: that balance between staying in the pocket versus getting out 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: of the pocket. Greg While we're on Texans, I always 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: think about the combine because the receivers get in there 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: and they run their four threes in their four four right. 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Then you get a receiver that runs in the four 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: fives and you're like, oh man, this guy, he's not 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna be able to make it. Texans have one of 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and everybody talks about getting separation, and sometimes 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I think hop relish is the fact that he doesn't 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: get separation, that he kind of likes it, that he 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: almost plays basketball the guy and bracks him out. I 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: know you started receivers throughout the league and maybe not 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: saying rank where DeAndre Hopkins is, but when you watch him, 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: what do you see? Well, it's funny to say that 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: because for a number of years I struggled watching him, 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of putting him with the elite guys, 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: because he's exactly John And like you said, you watch 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and I think you would agree with this. 65 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: You don't come away saying this guy has absolutely special 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: movement traits, but he always catches the ball, no matter right, 67 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: no matter where the defender is. And at the end 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: of the day, separation is one of those relative terms. 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously everybody would like a wide receiver to 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: run around and break away from a corner you know 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: where he's clearly open. But separation is relative. You know, 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: when you're playing, particularly if you're playing to the boundary 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: where you're gonna get a lot of man coverage, it's 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you theoretically, quote unquote get open. 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is the kind of guy that's open theoretically 76 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: even when he's covered, because he has such great hands 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: and such great timing for the throws that he makes 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the catches. Greg Costell with us, Greg, what about the 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: evolution of offense in this game? Anyway, when you look 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: at games in the fifties and then you have the 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl the way it was, I mean, we've seen 82 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: some major mood swings in offensive production this year. But 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: for a while a lot of people thought, well, we're 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: definitely going to the moon with point total, right. And 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: then as the season progressed in some ways after that 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: Rams Chiefs Monday night game, when everybody thought that was 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: the future, the league almost went back and settled into 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: a little more old school. And what was very interesting 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: to me, because I'm watching tape of the entire league, 90 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: is how many teams really started running the football out 91 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: of base personnel packages. Whether you'd be New England with 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: a fullback, whether it would be teams with two tight ends, 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, and in some ways it was almost old 94 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: school football as we went through December for a lot 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: of teams. Was that offense to play defense? In your opinion, 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: keeping the ball away? How do you look at that? 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't know the reason teams 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: decide to look The reason obviously teams decide to do 99 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: it is they think that's their best way to play offense. 100 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: So that's the reason for sure. But beyond that, you know, 101 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: is there a is there a philosophical change in the NFL? No? 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: I still think, you know, when we start this next season, 103 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna see three wide, you're gonna see spread. But 104 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't think because of the hash marks. And I 105 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: know you guys will appreciate this, because of the hash 106 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: marks in the NFL, which are closer together than in 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: college football. College football the hash marks are I think 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: five to six yards wider. So what happens is the 109 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: wide side of the field in college football is like 110 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon. You almost can't defend it. Yeah, there's 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: no way too, there's no way too. Right. So in 112 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, the hash marks are as I said, five 113 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: to six yards closer. So when all said and done, 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: yes you can go three wide, as everybody does. But 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: the game is still relatively played in the middle of 116 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: the field. College has played much more on the edge 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: when you were Yeah, absolutely, and Greg to that point, 118 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: as you've studied prospects and I'll focus on the quarterbacks, 119 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: as the game in the NFL has changed, and it 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: really feels like we're almost going down two different paths 121 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: here that you've still got some of the Tom brand. 122 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: We saw in the Super Bowl. We saw Tom Brady 123 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff, guys that are you know, stand in 124 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: the pocket for the most part, delivered the front ball 125 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: in their particular offenses. But then you see with the 126 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Shawn a different way of playing. You see Baker Mayfield 127 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: in the way that he plays, and you're seeing kind 128 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: of a group that, Hey, these guys can beat you 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: with their movement skills as well, and it feels like 130 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: the gap is sort of kind of widening, that you've 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: got these stereotypical prototype big pocket passers and that's what 132 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: teams are looking for versus, Hey, Matt Nagie'll take a 133 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: guy like Mitchell Trubisky and do a lot of different, unique, 134 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: different things with him, as Andy Reid's doing in Kansas City, 135 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: is Bill Brian's doing in Houston. As you've watched these 136 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: backs developed, you sense the way that you look at 137 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: them changing at all because of what they're doing in 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: college going to the NFL. I think there's no question, 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: and I've talked to gms and personnel guys about this, 140 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: there's no question that there's a greater premium place now 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: on guy's ability to make second reaction plays outside of 142 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: the structure of the play design. There's no question that 143 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: guys now look at that as an absolutely meaningful quarterback trade. 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Whereas let's say in two thousand and three when Carson 145 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: Palmer came out, no one thought that way. Yeah, absolutely. 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: You know, Carson Palmer was literally the prototype. You know, 147 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: if you're going to build a quarterback, you're building Carson Palmer, 148 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: you know. And again he was special as a thrower. 149 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: So he'd still be a first round pick if he 150 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: came out today, and maybe the first pick in the 151 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: draft because he was special. But the point you're making, John, 152 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: which is I think is a good one, is if 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: you're going to play in the pocket, you know, you 154 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: have to play at a pretty high level. And there's 155 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: twenty things that are involved with that. We don't need 156 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: to get all those things. But there's no question with 157 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: the sophistication of defenses, more pressured concepts, more blitz concepts, 158 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: more use of dime, more use of seven dbs, which 159 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: we I call dollar that there's faster defenders. When you 160 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: get to third and seven and eight and the defense 161 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: has six or seven dbs on the field, I mean 162 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: those guys blitz alignment are not picking up you know, 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: dbs coming from a little bit of distance. You know 164 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: that your quarterback needs to have some kind of movement 165 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: ability to sort of make a play. I don't. I 166 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: still don't think that can be your first thing when 167 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: you evaluate a quarterback, but I think that's become more important. 168 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: How surprised, if at all, were you at what Pats 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes was able to do this past season. I was surprised. Now, 170 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: he's a freakish thrower. I knew that watching him in college. 171 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: But he was a very loose, reckless, undisciplined player in college, 172 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: and to some degree he was in Kansas City as well. 173 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: But the plays worked. So the question is is that 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: going to continue to happen because at the end of 175 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: the day, those plays are there's a random element to 176 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: those plays, right, Okay, is he going to do that 177 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: over the course of a career or is that going 178 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: to kind of settle in, you know, maybe to the 179 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: norm where those plays are not going to happen as much. 180 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: I don't have the answer to that. There's no question 181 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: he had a phenomenal year. There's no question as a 182 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: pure thrower or the football he might there might be 183 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: no one better in the league. But he had a 184 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: very strange year to put up those numbers. Greg, if 185 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, we sat here last year and we 186 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: talked about Baker Mayfield and I loved him. Yeah, and 187 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Did it pan out the way 188 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: you thought? I mean, he's got a lot of runic Cleveland. 189 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: I don't know when I asked, did it pan out 190 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the way you thought? It feels like maybe it was 191 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: even beyond what we thought it could be. What do 192 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: you think of Bakers? I thought he was really good. 193 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: And the thing that struck me, and we probably did 194 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: talk about this last year, John is I studied Mayfield 195 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: really closely last year coming out of Oklahoma because I 196 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: knew he'd be polarizing for some and the thing that 197 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: struck me the most was he was not a runaround 198 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: guy at all. He actually played from the pocket. I 199 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: remember watching five or six games and then watching every 200 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: third down because I wanted to see what he did 201 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: on third down. Did he become random and improvisational? And 202 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: he didn't. He played from the pocket. And that's when 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I decided in my mind that hey, this kid's going 204 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: to be a good pro because he's got the compact, deliveries, twitchy, 205 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: he's accurate, and I thought, for the most part, his 206 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: rookie season played out as to what he is retco 207 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: sell from NFL films with us. All Right, Andrew Luck 208 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: had a great season because he did a little bit 209 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: surprising because we didn't know what the injury situation was 210 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: going to be. Is he better now than ever? Well, yes, 211 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: he's better in the sense that I think this system 212 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: with Frank Reich really does a nice job of presenting 213 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: defined reads and defined throat if you if you watch 214 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: him closely, this year, there was much more quick game. 215 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, three step drops, quick, five step drops. Those 216 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: are the kinds of drops where the reeds are much 217 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: more defined. You know, he's not scanning the field, and 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: I think he took to that. He ran less, he 219 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: was hit less. Wasn't there a stretch of six or 220 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: seven games where he didn't get sacked? And that's Look, 221 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: you always give credit to the old line, but that's 222 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: tied into the scheme of the offense where there's a 223 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: lot of quick game and the ball gets out. Greg. 224 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: I know this question sometimes if it's asked one way, 225 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: can uh five ten and one eighth quarterback survive in 226 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: the NFL? That maybe shouldn't be asked because that's not 227 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: going to happen with regularity. But can this five ten 228 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: and one eighth inch quarterback making the NFL. That being 229 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I think so I really love to stape 230 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: and and the thing that I think he has going 231 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: for him is he's an excellent thrower of the football. 232 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: He's not I mean, obviously he can run. Obviously he's 233 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: an explosive, a ridiculous athlete. But he can throw the football. 234 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: And my sense I watched eight games, and I think 235 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: smaller guys, they'll always be plays where they leave the 236 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: pocket prematurely because they can't see. You'll always find those plays. 237 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: That's just to give Russell Wilson's like that too. He 238 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: leaves a ton of throws on the field because he 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: just there are plays he probably can't see, so he 240 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: leaves the pocket. That'll happen to Kyler Murray as well. 241 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: But having said that, I think he can throw the 242 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: ball exceptionally. Well. I don't think he's a random player. 243 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: I don't think he drops back to leave the pocket. 244 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: So I like, you know again, now you're can it 245 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: becomes the eye of the beholder. He's five ten, five 246 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: ten and eighty five ten and one eighth and man, okay, 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: so he's essentially the same size as Russell Wilson essentially, 248 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. Injuries obviously an issue, and multiple offensive coordinators. 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: Your take on him. He's been in the league a 250 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: while now, he's going into his fifth year. I still 251 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: think he's got some fundamental mechanical issues with his lower body. 252 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: He's kind of a snap thrower. He's hasn't been as 253 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: accurate as he needs to be. Uh, he's been a 254 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: little up and down. You know, it's funny people talk 255 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: about accuracy. You know, he had that one game he 256 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: was like twenty one for twenty two was against us? 257 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Was that against you guys? Against us? And all he 258 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: was throwing you know, checkdowns and flat routes and you know, 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: and so you have to put that in a context. Um, 260 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: but I you know, it doesn't help. Then you're constantly 261 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: changing coordinators. I can tell you that. Yeah, we talked 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: about that come at the airport. That was one of 263 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the things that we talked about with with Mariota because 264 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: we talked about it from the standpoint of jury still out, 265 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: Jerry still out on some of these guys. Now, the 266 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: jury is probably written on some of the twenty fourteen guys. 267 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: But you know, Derek Carr, I mean the Raiders are 268 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: saying the right things. Seemingly three years ago it looked 269 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: like he was on his way to being a top 270 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: five quarterback in the league. Absolutely, so that happens. Yeah, 271 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: those guys, You know, I think it becomes coaching. You know, 272 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: not I'm not ripping coaches, but I think change and 273 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: coaching changing, and then offensive philosophy to some degree. You know, 274 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: that all factors in because look, in an ideal world, 275 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: here's what coaches would say, in an ideal world that 276 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: it takes four years for a quarterback within the same system, 277 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: because the first year you're figuring out your offense. Just 278 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: you're figuring out the basics of your offense. The second 279 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: year you're expanding your offense to its fullest degree and 280 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: you get it. The third year you're really learning more 281 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: about the defenses. The fourth year you get it all. 282 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, Now, it doesn't play out that way. Guys 283 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: start right away, whether they're theoretically ready or not. And 284 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I think the spreads and the defined reads help them 285 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: have some success, like a Mitchell Trubisky in a great 286 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: system with Matt Nagy. But in an ideal world, it 287 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,479 Speaker 1: takes time for quarterbacks to really totally understand the subtleties, 288 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: nuance and details of their offense plus the subtleties nuances 289 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: in details of NFL defense. It's a process, Greg, thank 290 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: you very much. Thanks guys, Greg co Sell from NFL Films, 291 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: NFL matchup all the great programming that he's involved in. 292 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Next up, John Harris breaks down stuff from the morning 293 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: workouts involving offensive tackles and other items here from the 294 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: Combine and Indie. It's Texans Radio. Continuing from the NFL 295 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Combine here in Indianapolis, Mark Vanderman, John Harris with you 296 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: from a radio row. And by the way, I did 297 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: a little radio row tour Johnny my Voice of the 298 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Texans facebook page. I tweeted it out earlier so he 299 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: can scroll through my Twitter account find him. Yeah, it's 300 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: interesting because it's not as big as a super Bowl 301 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: radio row, but it's as big as the super Bowl 302 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: radio row used to be, and it's a ton bigger 303 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: than this one used to be. Yeah, otherwords, there's growth, 304 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: no doubt. I did a video video tour of lucasoil field, 305 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: but then I realized, Okay, that's never gonna see the lighted. 306 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: You can't do it. No, no, I didn't like that. 307 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: I did not. I did not. I. In fact, on 308 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: my walk over to the Bowl this morning, the only 309 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: thing reverberating in my head was John no tweeting. Don't 310 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: tweet John, Yeah, they don't like it when you tweet 311 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: from the bow. We found that out once upon a time. Okay, 312 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: so let's get into this. You've been watching workouts all 313 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: morning as they got rolling. Really today. The interviews started 314 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: yesterday with the players. The coaches and gms have been 315 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: going for a few days now. They're done, really, the 316 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: coaches and gms are done interviewing as far as the 317 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: media stuff goes. But they're still interviewing players at night. 318 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: So what are some of your observations based on what 319 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: you've seen so far today. Well, let's let's look at 320 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: this from a made money standpoint, because that's what ellis 321 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: is about, right, making more money for yourself in some way. 322 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there are a couple of guys today 323 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: that made significant impression on me. Apolos start with the 324 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: positive impressions. Garrett Bradberry from Ency State. When you watch 325 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: him on film, he's a tackle. The other day he's 326 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: a center. He's a center. And the other day, I 327 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: compared him to Chris Myers, and I don't know. I 328 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: wish that Chris probably wishes he could have moved like 329 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: Derek Bradberry, but Bradberry shorter. He's like six two, and 330 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: I saw he was right in front of him. I 331 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: sit right by the broad jump. I liked it by 332 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: the broad jump because I can see these guys up 333 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: close outs where they get dryed. They were like, I 334 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: can see him a close. Bradberry's like cut, He's looks 335 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: like a linebacker. He's three hundred and seven pounds. He 336 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: ran sub five flat forty he had I don't know 337 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: if I recorded his broad jump. I think his broad 338 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: jump is okay. I think it was right at nine feet, 339 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: but he ran like forty nine, and I'm like, he 340 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: is an athlete, he moves, he's strong. I mean, he's 341 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: an impressive looking guy. I don't know that the Texas 342 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: would look at a center, and I don't know they 343 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: plays guards, so I don't think he's in the in 344 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: the realm, but I saw it Coach of Devlin talking 345 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: to him, like working on some snaps because they wanted 346 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: the centers. Every time the centers did an off Feld drill. 347 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: They wanted the centers to snap the ball and then move, 348 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: So Bradberry to me, was really impressive. Andre Dillard came 349 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: in at three hundred and fifteen pounds. He ran a 350 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: four nine nine forty at three hundred fifteen pounds. He's 351 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: been a name that's been bandied about for the Texans 352 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: by some Yeah, and you know I've talked about that. 353 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: He also of the broad jumps that I recorded, and 354 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: I had both groups, so I'm pretty sure I've got 355 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: this right. He had the longest broad jump. He had 356 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: a nine foot tennants broad jump at three hundred and 357 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: fifteen pounds, and he had a twenty nine is vertical, 358 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: which is just, I mean, really impressive. So well, what 359 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying is I think the chance is starting to 360 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: lessen whether he's gonna be there at twenty three. That's 361 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: what I meant about that. Yeah. Uh. The other guy 362 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: that I found very intriguing to two other guys I 363 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: found really intriguing. One was Chris Lynch from from out 364 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: of Boston College. Now he's an interior lineman, but he 365 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: had a nine nine broad jump and I was like, WHOA, 366 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: that's really impressive. And then he ran I think I 367 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: think he ran like a four nine two nine three 368 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: in the forty. I'm not sure what the official time was, 369 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: but he ran really well. I like him as a player. 370 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: He was one of the last players I studied, but 371 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: I'd heard a lot about him and I really wanted 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: to look at him, and I spent some a little 373 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: bit more time with him, and I just thought, man, God, 374 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: I wish this Gutta played tackle. I really do. Now 375 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean the Texas wouldn't look at him because 376 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: he can't play garden. He plays it very well, and 377 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: he did play a little bit of tackle Boston College, 378 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: and I just don't think it's the right fit. But man, 379 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: you talk about an athlete. He had a really good day. 380 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: And the last guy I thought that was really impressive 381 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: was Eric McCoy from Texas A and M. He had 382 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: the top forty time for a while. I don't know. 383 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: I think he stood on that at the four nine zero. 384 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: I think that was the fastest time. But he also 385 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: I want to say, he had a thirty plus inch 386 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: vertical jump thirty one inch. He ran well, He looked 387 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: good on the onfield drills. Eric McCoy made himself some 388 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: money today. He made some money at the Senior Bowl. 389 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: He declared early and then he went to the Senior 390 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: Bowl because he graduated from Texas A and M he 391 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: he looks good. He's everything you want. Offensive Lineman and 392 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: McCoy and Lyndstrom, Bradberry and Dillard, those guys all made 393 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: the Harris one hundred and I felt validated today in 394 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: some sense looking at him, going yeah, these guys definitely 395 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: deserved to be in a hundred for sure. They made 396 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: a lot of money today. And the Harris one hundred 397 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: is out on Houston Texans dot com. Go check it 398 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: out and check out all the articles from this week's 399 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Combine coverage and videos, and there's some really fun stuff. 400 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: And don't forget about Texans three sixty Saturday night at 401 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock from the Combine on ABC thirteenth Saturday night 402 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: at eleven. All Right, you and I really haven't talked 403 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: amongst ourselves much during these programs here. We've been interviewing 404 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot of guys. What are some of your top 405 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: two or three takeaways from Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine 406 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: this week is we've had a chance to interview them 407 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: personally and hear them at the podium. Well, the one 408 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: thing I keep coming back to for them is they 409 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: feel really good about the process and how they go 410 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: about this offseason stuff, if you will, starting from the 411 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: day of the season's over, the checkout process, from that 412 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: day when they sit down and start planning what they 413 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: need to do. They really have got that seemingly down 414 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: to a science for them for what works for them. 415 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: But they feel really good about it. The personnel and 416 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: scout's involvement, obviously Brian's involvement. That then when the coach 417 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: is get involved, they really have that down through the 418 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: one year they did it all together last year and 419 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: then having it this year. That's the one thing I 420 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: kept thinking in my head, like, boy, they've they're really 421 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: comfortable with that, and I don't mean it to me 422 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: and that's a that's a bad thing at all. I 423 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a good thing that they've 424 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of got their syn injury and how they're working 425 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: together and working through this and the combine ends up being, 426 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, one of the pieces of the process. But 427 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: we joke about that with Alabama. Nick Saban always talks 428 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: about the process, the process, and I think Brian Gay 429 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: and Bill Brian have a process for how they handle 430 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: this offseason stuff, how they go about it, declaring a 431 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: value for their players that are free agents, other free agents, 432 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: how they go about I really think they've got a 433 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: methodology that they feel really works and that they're pretty 434 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with and judging on last year's draft, and they 435 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: did have a first or second rounder, and you got 436 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: guys like Justin Reid and Martinez Rankin who both of 437 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: them are gonna be starters. George Thomas is gonna be 438 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: a starter at tight end. You fought starters in this draft. 439 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: QT is gonna be a starter. About four starters in 440 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the drafted which you didn't draft in the first or 441 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: second round. And now you're drafting three guys before you 442 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: drafted once last year, and you're hoping those three guys 443 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: become starters. And if they do, now you're building the 444 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: foundation along with what you have to do some really 445 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: good things in this league. All right? What about being 446 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: an indie? And this is your what fifth combine? Combine? 447 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: And I just heard John Clayton over there say it's 448 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: like his thirtieth and McLean, this is his one hundred 449 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: and fiftieth combine. Actually, yeah, but what are your impressions 450 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: of this one and the time you've had here? I 451 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: love being here. I just everything about this event. You're 452 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: and it's really to be honest that you know, the 453 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: prospects of the outfield stuff. That was fun to watch 454 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: today because I like watching the guys work out. That's 455 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: just kind of fun to me any anything. It's not 456 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: really football wise, but like watching the guys work out, 457 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: and you know how the scouting process for me is 458 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: is very intriguing. So I love that part of it. 459 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: But this is the event that everybody throughout the sports 460 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: world is talking about, Like everybody's talking about the combine, yea. 461 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: And so you're kind of right in the You're right 462 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: in the midst of it. You're you're right in a 463 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: mix of everything that's going on. And of course when 464 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: you see the tables of all these teams that you know, 465 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: we watched this stuff all the time, and I mean 466 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: a few tables over there. Steve Atwater a guy that 467 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: I watched, you know, when I was in high school, 468 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: and I idolized. I loved him. I mean he was 469 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: fantastic and a guy I wanted to play like. And 470 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: you see those people just walking around. I mean, yesterday 471 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: we were doing a cooler talk and I look over 472 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: and dan Quinn's walking by, like right as we started. 473 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: He was kind of waved as you thought. That was 474 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: really just you're right in the middle of all of it. 475 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: And for me, it's funny because when I wasn't here 476 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: prior to I would always feel like I was missing out. 477 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I always feel like where I was, I would watch 478 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: it and I would stay on top of the on 479 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: field stuff, but I always felt like I was missing 480 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: out on what was happening at the combine. It's gotten 481 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: that much bigger, yeah, but it always felt like I 482 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: was missing out. To watch the coverage on NFL Network, 483 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: I liken it to golf. You'd probably be better served 484 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: watching the TV coverage like you are in a golf event. Yeah. 485 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: I always bring everything back to golf. So, Bob, there's 486 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: something about being here, the side show that's going on, 487 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: and the contacts and the people you just bump into. 488 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: And you know, time and time again we bump into 489 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: countless former Texans as shouting members and it's just fun 490 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: to see everybody You and I were able to take 491 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: in a pacers game. Yeah, that was really that was 492 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: really fun. It's such a different experience obviously from an 493 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: NFL game and from the way the Rockets do things 494 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: infused and this is a phenomenal building by the way. 495 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: It's just a different vibe though here than what the 496 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Rockets have going on. I'm so used to that and 497 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: I love what they do. Uh. It was it was 498 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: funny and interesting to see how the other people live. Yeah, 499 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: I really liked the field House aspect of yeah place 500 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. And Lucas Oil has that too. It's 501 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: all a tribute really to hanklefield House and how they 502 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: like to tie everything together and they do a great 503 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: job here in this city. All right, So Johnny Harris 504 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: one hundred, we're on it. We're also on this. Coming up, 505 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: I will talk with Alex Marvez of sirius XM NFL 506 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: Radio and he's worked on this league for a long time, 507 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: has a lot of interesting opinions. Let's hear what he 508 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: has to say about the Shawn Watson, the Texans, the Division, 509 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: the league. It's next. I'm Texans Radio. It's great to 510 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: be here at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis and joining 511 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: us right now. Alex Marvez from Sirius XM NFL Radio. 512 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: You hear him in the evening, you hear him in 513 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: the morning. It seems like he's done all the time. 514 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm hearing you all the time, Alex. Yeah, I am 515 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: on six days a week at least, and I'm very 516 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: honored to do that. I get to work with Bill 517 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Polly and Charles Davis making you serious exam NFL radio 518 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: debut this past week here at the Combine. I'll work 519 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: with him on Thursday nights. Not listen, I'm talking NFL. 520 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I am one of the luckiest people in 521 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: the world to have this job. I don't take it 522 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: for granted. I do my homework and I talk. I 523 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: talk a lot. And of course I'm always grateful to 524 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: for Mark vanderm here because every time we have a 525 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: Houston Texans highlight on the air, I alway getting the 526 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: tip of the cap and you know when we play 527 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: that highlight. And by the way, a lot more highlights 528 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: lately lately for the Tech since in twenty eighteen, and 529 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: I think some more to come in twenty nineteen than 530 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: there had been a couple of seasons before that. Yeah, 531 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: I think DeShawn Watson has an awful lot to do 532 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: with that. And you know, it's funny you mentioned that 533 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: because it reminds me of my days with the Hurricanes 534 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: a little bit, where we've had some games where we 535 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: score a lot of touchdowns and we haven't had a 536 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: whole lot of that in recent years. And with the Hurricanes, 537 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, they'd score a ton of touchdowns when I 538 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: when I was there anyway, alex As you know. So 539 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: it's it's not taxing, but it's a it's a wonderful 540 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: problem to have, Like how do I make this one 541 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: sound better? But tell me about your impressions regarding Watson 542 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: and what you've seen so far. He's coming off his 543 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: first full season as a starter. Yeah, and see that's 544 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: the thing that we're taking for granted here, right, I mean, 545 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: because DeShawn made it look too easy in so many ways, right. 546 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, initially was Okay, give the guy 547 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: a year. He's coming off a torn acl right, you know, 548 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: And I said, nine months later, he's out there, I 549 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: mean putting up. I mean, you look at the start 550 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: of his career and these are some of the most 551 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: prolific numbers in NFL history. Guy, I'm making plays with 552 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: his arm, making plays with his legs and putting points 553 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: on the board. So I mean, it's it's been great. 554 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: I was frustrated by the playoff appearance, and I don't 555 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: know that what happened to the Houston Texans in that 556 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: game against the Indianapolis Colts, I am still stunned to 557 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: this day. It reminded me of the twenty seventeen opener 558 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: against the Jacksonville Jaguars, when everything was set up for 559 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: the Texans to succeed, you know, coming off a Hurricane Harvey, 560 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: JJ Watt, coming out of the tunnel of the American flag, 561 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: the fans going absolutely crazy, and then one craptacular performance. 562 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: If I can just create a new word, that's what 563 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: we saw in that playoff game. And what I saw 564 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: from Deshaun Watson that alarmed me. Mechanics breaking down that 565 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: fourth and goal pass that he threw where he's off 566 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: balance and he throws the ball in the durt. You know, 567 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: things like this that I just I'm like, wow, I mean, 568 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: they're correctable to me. I was just just stunned at 569 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: the way the season ended, because I thought what the 570 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: Texans did rebound in the way that they did after 571 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: an O and three start and their season on the brink. 572 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: Spoke Vines about how Bill O'Brien reached this team, about 573 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and all the great things that not only 574 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: he did last year but are still to come. And 575 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: I know there are some mitigating factors along the way 576 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: as far as injuries go at key positions. There down 577 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: to basically kiky Cti at the end right at the 578 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: wide receiver spot, and DeAndre Hopkins. You know, the Colts 579 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: took him out of the game. But I'll tell you 580 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: this though, I just think DeAndre gonna keep getting better 581 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: during his NFL career. The best is yet to come. 582 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, I could ask you 583 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: what you think is gonna happen with Clowney, But what 584 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: do you think of Clowney as a player moving forward 585 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: in his career and what he's done so far? He 586 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: can be dominant. I don't think he's consistent enough where 587 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, like he was a couple of years ago, 588 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: he had that real breakthrough season right right, and we 589 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: just haven't gotten back to that level yet of just 590 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: him taking over a game maybe, you know, like we've 591 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: seen Aaron Donald do as a game wrecker and you know, 592 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: three sacks, multiple quarterback hits. I don't know if things 593 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: have changed because of Romeo Cornell becoming the DC and 594 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: his scheme is a little bit different. Maybe his role 595 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: has changed what he's been asked. I mean, he's a 596 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: player you're not going to lose. I mean, he is 597 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: a franchise tag designate because you're never going to resign 598 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: him if he comes close to the market, so you know, 599 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: and with his injury history, one understands that. And I 600 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: just think wanting to see more consistency from Jadeveon Clowney, 601 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: that's the big thing to me. And I think twenty 602 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: nineteen is his time to prove that because he's not 603 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: just playing for a new contract with the Texans. He's 604 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna be playing for a new contract with the team 605 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: somewhere else in the NFL. The team decides it's just 606 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: not worth it to us financially to continue to have 607 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty and beyond. What about DeAndre Hopkins. 608 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned him briefly. He was banged up in a 609 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: playoff game. It was unfortunate. But when you talk about 610 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: the best receivers in the league, and I don't want 611 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: to get to rank him necessarily, But where do you 612 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: put him? Well, he got one of my All Pro votes. 613 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna one of the fifty Associated Press voters. And 614 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: to me, DeAndre Hopkins was one of the two best 615 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 1: receivers in football last year. I can't I forget who 616 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: I voted one. I mean, honestly, I like I'm drawing 617 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: a blank on it. I do know I voted for 618 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: DeAndre though, because you know, look, the guy doesn't draw passes. 619 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, his consistency and body control is so special. 620 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean the way he's able to contort to catch 621 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: a pass, you know, and he can he can make 622 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: he helps quarterbacks. Listen, and you think about it through 623 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: the years, how many different quarterbacks he ended up catching 624 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: passes from before DeAndre Hopkins claimed the job. So, I mean, 625 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: to me, he is a game changer. And of course 626 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: good news this week. Will Fuller looks like he's on 627 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: track from recovering from that torn ACL that's significant in 628 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: keiki qtie. I mean, he's going to add so much 629 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: out of the slot. I mean, you've got three really 630 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: good wide receivers there that you're looking at. It if 631 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: you can get a little bit more death maybe coming 632 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: up in the draft. I mean, this should be a 633 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: strength for the Houston Texans in twenty nineteen. What about 634 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the division. The Cults are such a 635 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: sexy pick right now to do great things in the 636 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: division and also maybe in the AFC. Yeah, and you know, 637 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: the thing about it that impressed me about the Cult 638 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: so much was how average players on other teams all 639 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden became difference makers. In Indianapolis, especially on 640 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football. Tanico Autry wasn't good 641 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: enough to make the roster of the Oakland Raiders. Let's 642 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: go over this in our head again. Then Oakland Raiders 643 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: team I think that had seven sacks or something, you know, 644 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: even with Khalil Mack. I mean, they were among the 645 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: worst in football and obviously terrible last year on the 646 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: pass rush. They let this guy go. He gets nine 647 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: and a half with the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, Marcus Hunt, 648 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: they have Matt Everflus is watching old school football and 649 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: he sees the Stillers with their old school defensive line 650 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: with like Ernie Holmes, and he puts Margus Hunt over 651 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: the center, you know, puts him in as a zero 652 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: technique and and moves him inside, and Marcus Hunt all 653 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden puts up great numbers. You look at 654 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: Pierre to see her, I mean, decent corner right, all 655 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, He's shutting guys down in Indianapolis. To me, 656 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: that's the sign of a really good coaching staff. And Frank, 657 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: I think made it even better bringing back Howard Mud 658 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: to work with their new offensive line coach Chris Strouser, 659 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: and those guys share the same view of football. And already, 660 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, I talked with Howard about this, how Quintin 661 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Nelson thought his technique had slid at the end of 662 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: the season, and Howard looked at the video and said, yeah, 663 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: you're right, and pointed out already to Quinton Nelson all 664 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: these things that he wasn't doing well. I actually pointed 665 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: out to us. I think Quintin hurt it. But the 666 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: point is that all these things that he needs to 667 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: improve upon, and that's great for Quinton Nelson. So yeah, 668 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason to feel bullish about Indianapolis, 669 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: especially now that Andrew Luck is Andrew Luck again more 670 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: than one hundred million dollars in cap space, their drafts 671 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: aren't mortgaged, I mean, this can become a very dangerous 672 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: team in twenty nineteen. Yeah, you're making me feel awful. 673 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: What about the Jaguars? Where do you think they're going? 674 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: I know you're living not too far away from Jacksonville 675 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: these days, indeed living in beautiful Gainesville, Florida. And I'm 676 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: gonna be saying all this even though I have to 677 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: give you the disclaimer. Tony Kahn, you know, son of 678 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars owner Shot Khan, is my boss with all elite wrestling, 679 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: So I do want to say that, so you know, 680 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: as I'm a part of their announced team there to 681 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: our first events made twenty fifth in Las Vegas. Extremely 682 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: excited about that in fameless plug. But you know, for 683 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: the Jagson is it Nick Foles? I mean that's all 684 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: signs point toward him becoming the quarterback of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 685 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: And is he that thing that they've been missing under center? 686 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: A guy who can do some difference making plays, who 687 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: can who can stretch the field on a regular basis. 688 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to knock play portals as a 689 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: leader because players really liked him, They liked him as 690 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: a person, they respected him because he never threw anyone 691 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: under the bus, always said it's my fault. I can 692 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: do better, and he kept that team together through some 693 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: tough times. But now that you've got a guy like 694 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: full potentially going there. Man, he's got a running back 695 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: in Leonard Fournette that's a bell cow guy. Yes, they 696 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: have to continue to upgrade the receiver position. The return 697 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: of Mark Easley from that torn a CEO will be 698 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: significant for them. But my feeling is that Jack's defense 699 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: is really good. They just got to get back to 700 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: being great again, okay, and affect the quarterback. Just they 701 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: didn't make enough difference making plays in twenty eighteen, didn't 702 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: have the support of the offense when it came to 703 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: know how the season went. But I think this is 704 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a team that you know right away is going to 705 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: be back in the mix to win this division. Quick 706 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: thoughts on Tennessee because they won last year but not 707 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: enough to make the postseason. They lost the game at 708 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: the moment of truth between them and the Cults, What 709 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: do you think? I think they're a middle class NFL 710 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: team that can go anywhere from seven and nine to 711 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: nine and seven, maybe ten and six. But when you 712 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: have a first time offensive coordinator and Arthur Smith, what's 713 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: he bringing to the table? And was that offensive Matt 714 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: la Flora put in really successful as it was? You know, 715 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: you think about it. You know, obviously adversity hit the 716 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: Titans with Mariota getting hurt early in the season, to 717 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: Lady Walker going down all the season ending injury, and 718 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: then the offense we're identifying itself in the second half 719 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: of the season when you know King Derrick Henry took 720 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: over as really the focus of that offensive attack. So 721 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: I just have more questions than answers I think with 722 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the Titans in that regard, are they going to be 723 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: a breakthrough team? I mean, and what is it going 724 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: to take for them to break through? And as Marcus 725 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: Mariota going to really be that difference making type of 726 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, Unfortunately injuries have kept him from doing it 727 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I still think he's a good player. 728 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: I still think he's our quarterback for the future. But 729 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: how good is he in twenty nineteen. Gosh, for about 730 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: six months away from finding out Alex Marvez joining US, 731 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: I've been throwing this one out there to a lot 732 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: of people. When you look at this league and where 733 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: it was at times this year with the game in 734 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: the fifties between the Rams and the Chiefs, and then 735 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: you look at the Super Bowl. Such a contrast because 736 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, right, football is different now forever. 737 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, no it's not. What do you 738 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: think of where the game is at today? I think 739 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: some teams caught up with some of the offensive concepts 740 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: the teams were doing. I mean the scouting now it's 741 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't say it's never been easy, but you've never 742 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: been given more information to scout an opponent. For example, 743 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: the Rams Sean McVay made a huge mistake. He didn't 744 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: throw any curveballs out to New England Patriots. He went 745 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: in with eleven personnel and he stuck with him. That's 746 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: three wide receivers on the field, only one tight end, 747 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: and they, you know, one of the wide receiver serves 748 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: as a de facto tight end, and they threw nothing 749 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: at The Patriots had caused any confusion whatsoever, as opposed 750 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: to the Eagles that did a whole bunch of crazy things, 751 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: including the Philly Special, and put up a bunch of points. 752 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: So I think that you know, that's why you saw 753 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl grind to a halt. Look some of 754 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: the things early on in the season, now the offenses 755 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: seemed to be ahead, and then as a year unfolds, 756 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: the defenses begin to catch up. So we'll see if 757 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: that continues. But listen, when you look at the hires 758 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: of what's gone on, everyone's looking for the next Sean McVay, 759 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: the next offensive genius. But is this shortsighted thinking because 760 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: Sean didn't look so smart, you know, at the Super 761 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: Bowl and have teams caught up with the concepts that 762 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: he's running, you know, so again I am. It is 763 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: a fascinating question of where we're at him. By the way, 764 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: not going to be easier for offense in twenty nineteen 765 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: with this group of pass rushers coming into the NFL. 766 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: We're talking six edge rushers likely to be chosen in 767 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: Round one, and it may even read seven or eight 768 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: by the time we're done. So trust me, team still 769 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: value getting after the quarterback and they're going to continue 770 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: to do that this upcoming season. What was your level 771 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: of surprise at what Mahomes was able to do in 772 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City? It was significant, especially right from the start. 773 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: You know, remember they didn't lose every game that they lost, 774 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: they scored at least twenty six points. Right, think about that, 775 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, right, I mean, so you should have been undefeated. 776 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: You know in the nineteen seventy two Dolphins aren't popping 777 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: champagne at that point, right because you know, you're you're 778 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: half the offense to get it done. It's just was 779 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: their defense was so poor. The thing with Mahomes was 780 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: he never regressed either. I mean, you never had a 781 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: game where you're like, man, this is a stinker of 782 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: a game. And you know he's he's taken a step 783 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: back as a quarterback, you know, opening up the season 784 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: as well, with you know, interception free performances the first 785 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: four weeks of the season. You know, I thought he'd 786 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: be making mistakes. You know, he's a first year starter. 787 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: I get it, and you know, and instead it just 788 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: never happened. And I think this guy's a limit for 789 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: him because he can make every throw and he can 790 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: let plays develop down field. I mean, ultimately, you can't 791 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: cover every inch of the field, and that's what happens 792 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: with his line. When to give him a little bit 793 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: of protection to let Tyree Kill get loose down field. 794 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's a guy that can split the seam. And 795 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: I just think and if Sammy Watkins, and it's a 796 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: big if he can, if he can get back to 797 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: health in twenty nineteen, he's going to be a big 798 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: difference maker again in this passing offense. This guy's a 799 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: limit for Patrick Mahomes. How crazy is it to you 800 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: that the Patriots are able to do what they do, 801 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: especially after coming off of Week fifteen, You're loose to 802 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and you figure they're going to beat 803 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Bills, right, but you know, all 804 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: the things that they were doing poorly they suddenly got 805 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: better at as the season went on. They restruct and 806 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: this is the thing about the Patriots. They adjust, They 807 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: adjusted the talent that they have, and you look on 808 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: offense now they and they're never gonna say this, but 809 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady at forty one isn't the same type of 810 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: difference making quarterback he was in the past. So what 811 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: do you do? You draft Sony Michelle and now you've 812 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: got that engine in your back field, and you got 813 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: that rushing threat and you're able to, you know, mix 814 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: in the run in the pass and it makes bread 815 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: even more effective when he's throwing the football and on 816 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: defense getting the buy in, you know, better tackling, better technique, 817 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: stopping the run, and you know all the stunts and 818 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: switches that they did. Teams were just baffled throughout the 819 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: postseason at these guests. Look, I know, Kansas City put 820 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: up a lot of points, you know, in the second 821 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: half of that game, but first half Patriots did their job, 822 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: allowing them to take command of the game. So I 823 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: just think that New England, it's remarkable, but they when 824 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: you know what you're looking for, as far as talent 825 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: assessment goes, it helps so much. It just it does, 826 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, because you know what you're looking for. Bill 827 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: Belichick knows what he wants and he doesn't expect players 828 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: to get outside their comfort zone. Puts him in position 829 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: to succeed. Not asking a linebacker who's not great in 830 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 1: coverage to run downfield with a tight end, those things, 831 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: and I think we underestimate some of the talent on 832 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: this Patriots defense as well. That secondary Stefan Gilmore was 833 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: as good as any corner in football last year. Devin 834 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: mccordy is brilliant. I mean, Patrick Chung had a great 835 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: year as well as strong safety. I mean, and you know, 836 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: to get a J. C. Jackson, you know, rookie comes in. 837 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: You don't even we don't even talk about Malcolm Butler 838 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: and the absence of him, and you know, looking and 839 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: again another team, Trent Brown. I mean, you know, you 840 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: find him at left tackle at one point nine million dollars, 841 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: you let maid soldier walk and for a deal averaging 842 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: fifteen point four million dollars a season. Now Brown's gonna 843 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: get paid, you know, right, And Trent Brown's gonna get paid. 844 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's gonna get franchise. And then 845 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: they'll go to Isaiah Win because they had him drafted 846 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: in the first round last year and he's they're likely 847 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: starting left tackle. They're rich get Richard, they're very smart. 848 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: Oh and two compensatory picks as well in the third round. 849 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: And these picks are now tradeable. Significant moved by the 850 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: NFL a couple of years ago passed to allow these 851 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: picks again moved on. So if the Patriots want to 852 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: jump up or down in any of these rounds, they've 853 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: got some there cooking with gas, so to speak. With 854 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: two extra third round picks, two our quick ones. What 855 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: would you do? With overtime, if anything, nothing, I think 856 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: it's fine. I think it's fair enough. If you can't 857 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: stop a team from marching down to scoring on you, 858 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it should just be sudden death because 859 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: you played sixteen minutes, so let's just get over it. 860 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: But that's my personal opinion. Don't ask me about what 861 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: I would do with golf overtime, Alex, what about the combine? 862 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: What's the future here? Twenty twenty they're locked through in Indianapolis. Look, 863 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: it's a perfect city to have this event and no 864 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: NFL team and to my knowledge, wants us to move. 865 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: Because everything is so centrally located, it runs smoothly. The 866 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: people running the event do a great job, but the 867 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: NFL looking to monetize so much as well. I mean, 868 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's goal is to hit that twenty five billion 869 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: dollars revenue mark by twenty twenty seven. And I don't 870 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 1: know if they'll be here as commissioner by that time, 871 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: but he has set that as a goal. And this 872 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: is something that does carry a significant amount of weight 873 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: as far as the events that you televise, people tune 874 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: into it. So Mark, I think it is something that 875 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: you know you have to ask yourself, do you want 876 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: to put it in La Do you want to hollywood 877 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: aze that? Do you want to open it up to fans? 878 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: Do you want cities bidding on it like they do 879 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft now and these types of things. I mean, 880 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: I just think you have to be careful though, because 881 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: why do you have the NFL scout in comments to 882 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: help teams get ready for the draft? How do you 883 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: marry that with the all the Hollywood esque production that 884 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: the NFL may want to put on it. I think 885 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: that's a tough question for them because right now, every 886 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: team can walk from their hotel to get to the 887 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: Convention Center, to get to Lucas Oil Stadium. You're not 888 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: dealing with traffic, you're not dealing with other things. Restaurants 889 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: are open late, it's a great environment. It is the 890 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: perfect city for this event. Do you really want to 891 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: screw around with that? I think it's a question NFL 892 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: decision makers have to ask. But I'll tell you this too. 893 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: By having the threat of leaving over Indianapolis, this is 894 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: a bargaining chip as well. So what does Indianapolis give 895 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: back to keep the combine here? Yeah, it's all, It's 896 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: all business. Baby they want it? Wait, what teams fans 897 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 1: call serious xm NFL Radio more than any other. Probably 898 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City are They're very popular. New Orleans very popular. 899 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: And I work with Gil Brandon. Dallas Cowboys for some 900 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: reason get a lot of calls. It's sort of sort 901 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: of weird like that Cowboys are big. You know, some 902 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: markets more than others. I think it depends sometimes two 903 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: on the strength of local media markets and whether a 904 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: team's winning or not. We had a lot of Jags 905 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: calls late in you know in twenty seventeen is that 906 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: magical season unfolded? Not so much twenty eighteen. So you'll 907 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: notice ebb and flow when it comes to a team's success. 908 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: The more they win, the more people want to talk 909 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: about got it? Alex? Thanks a lot always Mark the 910 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: Alex Marvez from Sirius xm NFL Radio. Thank you for 911 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: being on the program, and thank you to Greg ko 912 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: Sell and all the work we've done here this week. 913 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: Go checkout Houston Texans dot com all the Texans social 914 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: media platforms for everything that we've been working on. And 915 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: check out Texans three sixty on ABC thirteen tomorrow night 916 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: at eleven for a combine, Exclusive, it's all there, it's 917 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: all here. Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.