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Speaker 2: It's Thursday.

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Speaker 3: There's football tonight, Week ten of the National Football League season,

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Speaker 3: starting the second half. Welcome in a lot to get to,

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Speaker 3: including Carry Rhodes taking victory laps around this.

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Speaker 2: Table here, Yes, victory laps.

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Speaker 3: As the Kyler Murray era is taking quite the turn

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Speaker 3: in Arizona. It's been the talk of the NFL. H

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Speaker 3: Very rarely do you get the Arizona Cardinals leading shows.

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Speaker 3: Very rarely do you get the Arizona Cardinals being the

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Speaker 3: talk of the town. That is what's happening is Kyler

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Speaker 3: Murray's on injured reserve, Jacoby Brissett is now the star,

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Speaker 3: and Carrie Rhodes was apparently.

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Speaker 4: Right all along. Yeah, Kyler Murray was. He's just not

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Speaker 4: the guy. He's not a guy that's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: that's going to galvanize the troops for you. So if

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Speaker 4: he's not playing at a level that you cannot sit

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Speaker 4: him where we saw in a couple of years ago

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Speaker 4: right where he played really well. He was a pro bowler,

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Speaker 4: and you kind of look past some of the deficiencies

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Speaker 4: But when all those things come to fruition and your

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Speaker 4: play is not elevating the team alongside with the leadership

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Speaker 4: stuff and the stuff that we know and I've seen

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Speaker 4: just from Afar not even being a part of the

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Speaker 4: not a guy that galvanizes the guys. He's not a

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Speaker 4: guy that's gonna go do the extra work and sit

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Speaker 4: down with the Marvin Harris and the guy that you

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Speaker 4: want to be your leading number one receiver. He's not

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Speaker 4: going to do the extra things to make sure he

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Speaker 4: elevates that guy. He's only worried about himself, it seems like.

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Speaker 4: And so when that happens, and then you hit a

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Speaker 3: So I want to backtrack because Karry and I do

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Speaker 3: the show on Sunday afternoons end Zone Radio five Eastern,

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Speaker 3: two Pacific, and it's not meant to disrespect Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Just have never been a fan. And you kind of

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Speaker 3: laid out some of the reasons why I think people

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Speaker 3: dismissed Kyler Murray or didn't believe in Kyler Murray solely

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Speaker 3: because of his height or lack thereof. But that was

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Speaker 3: never the issue with you at all.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: No, you say, like we saw that two years well

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Speaker 4: maybe two three, ill no longer it's been now, but

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Speaker 4: we weren't talking about that then. I mean, obviously everybody

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Speaker 4: on that if he wasn't playing well. And then you

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Speaker 4: saw I get the leaks and you started hearing things

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Speaker 4: which is ridiculous, and a no game and like things

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Speaker 4: And so when those things started coming out, that for

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Speaker 4: you get better at that? And we've seen it, we've

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Speaker 4: seen where they put the clause in this contract to

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Speaker 4: that's the case, then he's just not the guy.

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Speaker 3: This is the point where I think you were pointing

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Speaker 3: out where Kyler Murray had success was in the twenty

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Speaker 2: That's for you.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while, it's been a while. They made

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Speaker 3: You know what took me by surprise in that scenario

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Speaker 3: That's what was was surprising to me was as soon

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Speaker 3: out teams, all, yeah, I'd love to play in Washington,

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Speaker 3: sit well with me when Kyler Murray took the first

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Speaker 3: go and do it. That's what set me off. That said, huh,

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Speaker 3: they've gone down, because they sure haven't gone up. That's

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Speaker 3: always been my issue with Kyler Kyler Murray as of late.

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Speaker 4: I mean at that time, Dan, people were there were

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Speaker 4: knowing now people have great seasons all the time, and

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Speaker 4: you have that new contract, who are you? Because once

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Speaker 4: Like the guys that are really great and really care

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Speaker 4: that's just part of a milestone. That's a stepping stone

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Speaker 4: you really find out who people are. And with Kylin Murray,

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Speaker 4: we've seen that you said it, he was very eager

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Speaker 4: also had baseball asparations, right, He's had other things that

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Speaker 3: What do you believe in the comments that were said

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Speaker 3: this week, because this is now where the Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: saga has taken an interesting turn, where Jonathan Gannon had

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Speaker 3: this to say earlier about Kyler Murray about his injury

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Speaker 6: Today, Kyler is going to go on IR. Feel like

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Speaker 6: that's the best thing for him and for us. He's

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Speaker 6: the most sense. Obviously that's a change, but we just felt,

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Speaker 6: you know, looking at it right now, that's the best

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Speaker 3: Like I just said, that was Jonathan Gannon yesterday talking

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Speaker 3: about to move to place Kyler Murray on IR. There's

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Speaker 3: more to this. There's a bigger thought. Why would Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: Why would Kyler Murray be placed on injured reserve and

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Speaker 5: Uh huh?

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Speaker 3: Why are we getting this mixed message from Arizona that

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Speaker 3: just days later when Kyler Murray was about to return

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Speaker 3: play for the next four weeks. Yeah, something doesn't add up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the internal conversations inside that locker room, inside that

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Speaker 2: Because if you're in the hot seat as a head coach.

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Speaker 4: As a GM, as an offensive coordinator, whatever it is,

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Speaker 4: Jacobe Brissette gives him the best opportunity to win. He's

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon, Jonathan Gannon as a head coach going out

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Speaker 4: and doing this making his comments. There was a disconnect

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Speaker 4: there between the owner head coach GM because he's talking

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Speaker 2: And then you have to come back and you got

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Speaker 2: to fix that a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do a little damage control, And I think

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Speaker 4: all these things say what I think about Arizona right now.

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Speaker 4: In general, they are disfunctional. And that's where I'll leave it.

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Speaker 4: And I'll leave it for you, Dan. That's the rest.

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Speaker 2: That's okay. I got another question. You got? What you got?

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Speaker 3: Were the drops by Marvin Irrison Junior earlier this season?

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Speaker 7: Junior for this?

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Speaker 2: We can? We're not gonna We're not. We're not just

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Speaker 2: dumping on Kyler here.

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Speaker 4: No, Marvin Harrison was definitely not doing high and well

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Speaker 4: in certain points as well in this season.

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Speaker 3: So the drops by Marvin Harrison weren't because of the

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison definitely started out thinking way too much and

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Speaker 4: routes there was no decisiveness. But also the decisiveness comes

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Speaker 3: I know if I would have told you on Sunday

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Speaker 4: Dan Kyler Murray is a guy that likes to play

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Speaker 4: They are trying to save face as an organization.

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Speaker 2: So does that answer for you? Dan? What you got?

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Speaker 2: This is what This is what I think happens. This

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Speaker 3: They're gonna give Jacoby prison four weeks where he's the man.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't been the man the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: So when he if he doesn't come through, then guess what.

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Speaker 3: Kyler's fully healthy. Kyler has a new code of paint

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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett leads this team to four straight victories and

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Speaker 4: Great point, And I'm also gonna say this, when you

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Speaker 4: Think about the games they lost with Kyler Murray at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But they're banking on him to succeed.

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Speaker 3: The Arizona Cardinals, you could make an argument, as crazy

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the three and five they gave up, the comeback

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: They lost against the forty nine Ers sixteen to fifteen

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Speaker 7: Win.

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Speaker 3: Like there are all these situations that Arizona could be

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Speaker 3: We were texting back and form I, he's gonna take

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Speaker 3: Monci's update, it's gonna be a little what the puck

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Speaker 2: I want to Yes, we've been We've keeped your interests.

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Speaker 7: He could.

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Speaker 11: He's still be one of the best for agent running

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Speaker 11: That's what something that Bengals. The Bengals have done, by

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Speaker 11: The Ravens have done it. It's another way to build

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Speaker 11: The problem is now the Chiefs, depending on which sports

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Speaker 11: of the Jets, Darren Moujie, admitted that the offer kept

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Speaker 11: growing and it became to the point where like, we

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Speaker 11: have to do this. The cornerback position is that the

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Speaker 11: Lake deal Brand told me on his value board it

441
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Speaker 11: was the fourth most important position quarterback, left offensive tackle,

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Speaker 11: right defensive end, because you're going to get to the

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Speaker 11: left tackle, then cornerback. So how do you how do

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Speaker 11: you turn on two freship picks? Oh, by the way

445
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Speaker 11: they threw in Ady Mitchell a second rounder last year,

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Speaker 11: it's insane. You have to do that. Look, they're going

447
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Speaker 11: to be bad anyway. Now, getting back to Ballard in

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Speaker 11: the Colts, Yeah, this is not the way he does it.

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Speaker 7: But here's the thing. No one thought they'd be seven.

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Speaker 11: To two with Jimrse passing away and his kids running it.

451
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Speaker 11: His daughters were running the team. Chris has done a

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Speaker 11: lot to come back next year. What if they run

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Speaker 11: a losing streak, they don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: He's out.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, that he went for it. I know he overpaid.

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Speaker 11: I totally agree. Every personal person I spoke to they

457
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Speaker 11: just were shocked that Ballard. They just didn't understand it.

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Speaker 11: Like what they knew that they were bad at corner

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Speaker 11: That's not up to debate. What is up to debate

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Speaker 11: is why would you overpay? Couldn't you get two corners

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Speaker 11: for that? You know what I'm saying this is that's

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Speaker 11: what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is the crazy thing that I think

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Speaker 3: about it is I'm trying to figure out how do

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Speaker 3: they look at their window, like what is the window

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Speaker 3: of expiration? Sometimes it's a quarterback. I thought maybe it's

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Speaker 3: a Jonathan Taylor situation where they're like, hey, Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 3: in the past has battled some injuries, He's having a

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Speaker 3: great year so far. Let's make sure that we cash

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Speaker 3: in on when he's at the prime of his career.

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Speaker 3: But how does this complicate things now? Or does it

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Speaker 3: complicate things if you now want to sign Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: to a long term extension after just getting the one

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Speaker 3: year deal. Mike obviously to me, Dan, Sorry, we can

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Speaker 3: talk to Mike.

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Speaker 7: Talk to Mike. Dan. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 11: They just gave up two first round picks, so they

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Speaker 11: don't have a first round pick until twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 7: How do they getting a quarterback? On your question?

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Speaker 11: So, the thought around the league is that Ballard is

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Speaker 11: Mortgage's future in terms of the quarterback position. He's stuck

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Speaker 11: with Daniel Jones, or he's gonna have to trade one

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Speaker 11: and what or sign a journeyman free agent. That's what

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Speaker 11: he just did with Daniel Jones. Really, so he's stuck.

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is let's talk. You have yes, yeah,

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Speaker 11: well yes and no theoretically yes, but you also have

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Speaker 11: to see what who's out there in free agency and

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Speaker 11: I understand you're probably looking at guys who were washed

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Speaker 11: up or look who knew about Baker Mayfield?

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Speaker 7: Okay, who knew about Baker Mayfield?

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Speaker 11: You never know, though Daniel Jones up to last week

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Speaker 11: had been has been phenomenal. So yeah, look, it's a

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Speaker 11: massive overpay. That was a shocker of Monday. Was great

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Speaker 11: because all these teams wait till the last minute. When

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Speaker 11: you when you do that, you overpay because you know

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Speaker 11: you can't do any more trading until March. And if

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Speaker 11: you're trying to make a run for it, and as

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Speaker 11: I said at the top here as I sent it

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Speaker 11: back to you, Dan, this is the one year to

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Speaker 11: go for it because it's so wide open.

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Speaker 7: Anyone will win it if you get in.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was going to bring up, like that's

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Speaker 4: that's the reason I mean the way that you come

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Speaker 4: into the season and right now the way it's materialized,

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Speaker 4: you got a chance to win it in your mind.

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Speaker 4: Are they I don't know about that, but they have

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Speaker 4: a chance. But I want to go. I want to

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Speaker 4: talk about tonight's tonight's game. I want to talk about

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Speaker 4: the Bronco. No, just just because of the Broncos.

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Speaker 7: Adam, I got you, I got you?

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Speaker 4: Like this is the in my opinion, they are the

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Speaker 4: worst seven and two teams.

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Speaker 7: And my great defense. I know they're just this is.

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Speaker 3: Also Carry's way of running on my Super Bowl picknot No.

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Speaker 4: It isn't Dan. They are legitimately there. I don't see

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Speaker 4: any Yes, the defense is really good and they got

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Speaker 4: a lot of makes sense, But what is wrong with

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Speaker 4: their offense? What's going on with the inconsistencies in bon

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Speaker 4: NeXT's carry?

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Speaker 11: Bow Next is an inconsistent quarterback. He's just up and down.

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Speaker 11: They're they've Here's the funny thing. They have a ton

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Speaker 11: of talent. Yes, yes, the running game has been fine,

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Speaker 11: but they they have games thirteen to eleven. Like the Jets,

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Speaker 11: they play down a lot to the competition. I give

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Speaker 11: them credit for Philly for winning. It's hard to win

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Speaker 11: there was another game where they didn't score a lot

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Speaker 11: of points. Yep, they do just enough to win there.

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Speaker 11: I there's a radio show that I do power rankers.

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Speaker 11: We're actually going to do them today. So I'll tell

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Speaker 11: you what I have here. I have the Broncos now

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Speaker 11: and at my top fourteen, which is obviously fourteen teams

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Speaker 11: to make it carry.

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Speaker 7: It's funny you bring this up. I have him at ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I have him at ten. Yeah, I don't. I just don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't see it, to be honest with.

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Speaker 2: You, without Patrick's ten two along. Yeah, a couple more weeks.

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Speaker 11: Oh really Yeah, he's got a pectorial strain that those

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Speaker 11: could be those I don't know if you've ever had

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Speaker 11: that carry that those things are linger right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, carry And I started the show talking about Kyler

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Speaker 3: Murray and and you know we've we've talked for years.

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Speaker 3: Carrie was was never a huge fan.

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Speaker 7: Well why the many are? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Why the sense of mixed messages though, because we had

545
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Speaker 3: thought that Kyler Murray was about to play on Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: Now he's on an R for four weeks. Well, no,

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Speaker 3: there were there were, there was there was talk over

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Speaker 3: the weekend.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was wrong. Here's here's this is this is

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Speaker 7: my understanding.

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Speaker 11: Let me just put it this way. This is my understanding.

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Speaker 11: He's got a midfoot sprain.

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Speaker 7: It it could be he has a moderate midfoot sprain.

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Speaker 11: As my understanding, if he pushes too much, he could

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Speaker 11: he could be out for months. There was a like

556
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Speaker 11: you could push it and play him, but he could

557
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Speaker 11: also it was too risky and now he focuses on

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Speaker 11: his future. And by the way, his contract is really

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Speaker 11: onerous though. Structure uh it Look, they could trade him,

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Speaker 11: they could want to trade him, but you gotta find

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Speaker 11: a team that's gonna want him. He's a smaller quarterback

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Speaker 11: at five ten and those guys actually might not even five,

563
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Speaker 11: might be five to nine. This structure is poor. It

564
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Speaker 11: has what are called advance guarantees. So if he's on

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Speaker 11: the roster in March of this year, the next year

566
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Speaker 11: cash is fully guaranteed. Like that's the way you get

567
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Speaker 11: around fully guarantee the whole contract. The agents do this now,

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Speaker 11: it's another way to get it done. It's the bad

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Speaker 11: contract for the Cardinals. I don't know what they're going

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Speaker 11: to do there. Jonathan Gannon's Dan, You're right. The craziness

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Speaker 11: of what he said this week. He's a very mercurial guy.

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Speaker 11: By the way, He's a good, good dude from people

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Speaker 11: have worked with him, players like him. But he says

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Speaker 11: some stuff every now and then where you go, wait,

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Speaker 11: wait a minute, what do you mean by that? He

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Speaker 11: just yeah, he's set some weird stuff.

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Speaker 2: I told carry.

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Speaker 7: Then.

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Speaker 3: I think what it does is it allows Jacoby Brissett

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Speaker 3: and I'll be the man, which honestly is a role

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Speaker 3: that he hasn't succeeded in. He's great coming in and

582
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Speaker 3: saving the day. Yeah, but when he's been a starter,

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Speaker 3: it's been added more pressure. Does this Does this allow

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Speaker 3: them to bring Kyler back at the end so if

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Speaker 3: they want to part ways at the end of the

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Speaker 3: season that there isn't an injury situation for that.

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Speaker 2: Could that be in play here?

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Speaker 12: Mmm?

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Speaker 11: But the problem is if he plays poorly, he always

590
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Speaker 11: have to look at it that way. With the Smidfoot's brain,

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Speaker 11: it's it's in the list fronkinsy areas.

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Speaker 7: I understand it.

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Speaker 11: So it's yeah, it's it's not he didn't tear it,

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Speaker 11: but it's there's enough of a spray in that it's

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Speaker 11: it's a concern and you can't.

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Speaker 7: You can't risk it that you talking to plasures. I

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Speaker 7: have had it. It's really bad. You know.

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Speaker 11: It's an unnatural sprain where the midfoot splits, so it's

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Speaker 11: you gotta be careful of that thing. So that look

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Speaker 11: that they they play very hard. They had it's actually

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Speaker 11: had a pretty good draft. Yeah, the Montioso for it's

602
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Speaker 11: done a good job in terminent that the draft, but

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Speaker 11: they're still not a very good football team. It starts

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Speaker 11: a quarterback. You guys are absolutely right. Look their top

605
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Speaker 11: to running backs are out. Connor won't be back the season.

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Speaker 11: Marvin Harrison, he's getting better lately. I've always been a disappointment.

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Speaker 11: It's stunning to me.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 11: He was super loved by people in the draft. Who

610
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Speaker 11: who who I who I trust and hasn't happened. And

611
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Speaker 11: defensively they're competitive, but they're just they've been stuck in

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Speaker 11: neutral three years.

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Speaker 7: It's my term for it.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, Kriy and I went over

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Speaker 3: their schedule and we made an argument they could be unbeaten,

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Speaker 3: as crazy as it sounds.

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Speaker 2: As crazy as it sounds.

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Speaker 7: They've got a lot of players back from injury. They

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Speaker 7: got older when you.

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Speaker 2: Look at how they lost these games.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know they were not a lot though they

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Speaker 7: do that a lot.

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Speaker 11: No, but but but look, okay, so, but if you

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Speaker 11: look at their scheduler coming up, I mean, honestly, if

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Speaker 11: you look at the rest of their schedule, Okay, they

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Speaker 11: got they got one.

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Speaker 7: They got to beat the Bengals. You know that Bengals.

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Speaker 11: They're not competitive defensively, But Seattle, the Niners, the Jags,

629
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Speaker 11: the Bucks, the Rams, the Texans defense the Rams again, Falcons,

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Speaker 11: who are unachieving by the way, they are really disappointing.

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Speaker 11: I'm I'm surprised. My friend Rhee Marson doing better. He's

632
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Speaker 11: there's something missing with their offense. They should be way.

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Speaker 11: Their defense is good, their offense is not.

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Speaker 4: Adam, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a stab at myself

635
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Speaker 4: here since I threw since since I threw Dan under

636
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Speaker 4: the bus with with this Diner Broncos, My team in

637
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Speaker 4: the NFC is underachievement as well. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: who they are either, and that's the Green Bay Packers,

639
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Speaker 4: Like who are they? Yeah, I mean, you know, offensively,

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Speaker 4: they got weapons they got back now.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, what it is is, how do I describe this.

642
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Speaker 11: So their defense is good. I mean, they don't have

643
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Speaker 11: an elite defense. But for some when Joe Barry got fired,

644
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 11: the thought around the club was that they were too soft,

645
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Speaker 11: they were unachieving. They changed their scheme from a thirty four,

646
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Speaker 11: which they'd ran for decades, to a forty three under

647
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Speaker 11: Jeff Hafley, the former Boston College head coach who had

648
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Speaker 11: coached in the league as an assistant for a while.

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Speaker 11: There there Look, here's the thing. From a front seven

650
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Speaker 11: talent level, it's hard to find a team that's more talented,

651
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Speaker 11: but they're not real good at corner, like very beatable

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Speaker 11: corner offensively. Now with a Tucker Craft injury, which is major,

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Speaker 11: he had an ACL he was having a phenomenal year.

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Speaker 11: What's interesting about that, one, guys, is that Luke Musgrave

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Speaker 11: was the starter. They were drafted and they were selecting

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Speaker 11: the same draft and Musgrave got hurt and he had

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Speaker 11: an illness and he never got a job back. And

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Speaker 11: now Craft is out and Musgrave gets his job back,

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Speaker 11: and then look everyone now and then Jordan Loved done

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Speaker 11: play well, but he's had a good year. There they're

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Speaker 11: five too and one I did pick them to win division,

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Speaker 11: but they're not going to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: Matt.

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Speaker 11: Here's the problem. Matt before has not been a good

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Speaker 11: playoff head coach. Yeah, he's very conservative as a play caller. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: big balance guy. But what I did like against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 11: when Love went twenty for twenty to finish out the game.

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Speaker 11: When they beat Pittsburgh when they were behind and then

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Speaker 11: Love went off the fourth quarter, he did say we

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Speaker 11: stayed with a pass because it was just Jordan was

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Speaker 11: so good. Why run the ball. That's what Lafleur's got

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Speaker 11: to do. Curry to answer your question, if you want

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Speaker 11: to be great, take advantage of the talent. Now, Green

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Speaker 11: Bay's got a number of injuries at receiver. They've got

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Speaker 11: three guys are hurt. That's a problem for them as

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Speaker 11: they host the Eagles, and the Eagles have kind of

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Speaker 11: owned them in recent years.

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Speaker 3: He goes in Monday Night Football will wrap up Week ten.

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Speaker 3: Week ten starts tonight with the Raiders and Broncos. As

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Speaker 3: we talked about, so Adam Kaplan will be busy. Adam,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much. We'll talk to you next time, all right.

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Speaker 10: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 10: This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a nice transition. I doesn't know

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Speaker 2: it was game time, that's all. I was surprised.

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Speaker 13: This is how I keep track of my week, carry

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Speaker 13: with game time. Okay, so I know it's Thursday because

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Speaker 13: we're playing game.

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Speaker 10: I feel a draft.

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Speaker 13: That's right. We are all going to draft our favorite

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Speaker 13: moment of the NFL season so far.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, and it's gonna be the draft order.

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Speaker 13: Were gonna start with you carry.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, all right, I was so anxious to

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Speaker 2: pick a So.

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Speaker 13: Carrie, Jason, Dan me Sam, and if we have time,

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Speaker 13: we will snake back. Okay, if we have time, because

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Speaker 13: you know Sam likes to be long winded. Okay, Carrie,

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Speaker 13: you go start things off.

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Speaker 4: Snake all right, the question one more time, monson, what

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Speaker 4: is your favorite.

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Speaker 13: One of the favorite moments of the season so far

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Speaker 13: in the NFL through the first nine weeks.

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Speaker 4: Favorite moment of the season so far. Wow, that would

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Speaker 4: be for me. I'm just gonna have to be a

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Speaker 4: little bias here. The Jets coming out and getting a

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Speaker 4: big win right after the passing of my good friend

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Speaker 4: Nick Mangole.

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Speaker 2: So that was.

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Speaker 4: That was a beautiful moment, beautiful tribute. The win was

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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, Nicks from Ohio, so it was all pretty pretty,

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Speaker 4: pretty stellar.

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Speaker 2: The game was balking, it was.

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Speaker 13: We're going to Jason Jason's next. I was like, I

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Speaker 13: wrote this down.

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Speaker 5: I want to point out the Car's favorite moment was

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Speaker 5: the moment that I hated most because the Bengals lost

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Speaker 5: me my survivor exactly exactly. So I'm gonna make it

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Speaker 5: even more about me. The Chargers. We're trying to charger

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Speaker 5: a game against the Dolphins in the middle October in Miami.

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert feels the pressure, he avoids, he throws defenders

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Speaker 5: off of him, hits Lad McConkey on the cross and

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Speaker 5: the and Cameron Dicker ends up winning the game with

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Speaker 5: a field goal avoiding the chargering, and Justin Herbert won

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Speaker 5: for the highlight reel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great play.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 3: I wanted the Dolphins because of what knock to people.

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Speaker 2: Lost All right, Dan, you're up, got Manzi.

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Speaker 3: I like Jason also had an entry lost by the

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Speaker 3: Bengals or that lost to the jetson But the only

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Speaker 3: reason it was alive was because the Broncos came back

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Speaker 3: and scored thirty three points in the fourth quarter against

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Speaker 3: the New York Giants to get that win in Week seven.

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Speaker 3: That amazing comeback and all of the drama with it.

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Speaker 3: So the Broncos thirty three point fourth quarter would be

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Speaker 3: my and and we.

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Speaker 2: Were on the air at that time, right was going on.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those you won't forget.

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Speaker 13: It's like, I don't even want to remember it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna forget it, won't.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm not gonna forget this one either, because it

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Speaker 13: was wild. I think it was Week five Titans and Cardinals.

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Speaker 8: Cam Moore throws what is eventually a pick, but then

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Speaker 8: the Cardinals fumble the interception. Chaos ensues, and I think

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Speaker 8: it's Tyler Lockett that ends up returning the fumble for

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Speaker 8: a touchdown and the Titans beat the Cardinals by the

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Speaker 8: end of it, Like that did say all that?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 2: It was nuts? It was nuts, and that de Marcado

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Speaker 2: right before correct correct.

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Speaker 13: I didn't want to point that out. I just thought

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Speaker 13: this touchdown.

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Speaker 2: One man, Sam did. I don't know, maybe I did.

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Speaker 12: Why am I taking all these Sam takes for Sam?

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Speaker 2: I was SAMs it. Geez, come on, family, you have

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Speaker 2: to here, you can have to all right? Am I

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Speaker 2: back to back here?

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Speaker 7: Yes? Here quick?

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Speaker 2: All right? So let's go.

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Speaker 12: Let's go with It's October fifth, Sunday night football. The

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Speaker 12: Bills are undefeated, hosting the Patriots, and the Patriots pull

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Speaker 12: out a win to reassert their dominance in the AFC East,

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Speaker 12: and afterward, the Bills were saying this to themselves about

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Speaker 12: the Patriots. They're like, why won't these guys, go away.

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Speaker 12: We're supposed to be the kings of the AFC East

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Speaker 12: and the Patriots are right back in the thick of things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, do you have another one?

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 12: How about a very entertaining game that ended in a

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Speaker 12: forty forty tie between Green Bay or Dallas. And usually

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Speaker 12: ties are like, you know, weird sixteen all and then

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Speaker 12: you know, but this was a shootout that ended at

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Speaker 12: a tie, and everyone just was let out their breath

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Speaker 12: and was like, what the heck was that?

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Speaker 2: All right, yeah it was. It was like recess, that's

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Speaker 2: all one, Okay, stop it right there.

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Speaker 13: I got a quick one when Aaron Rodgers got mad

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Speaker 13: at his teammate for tackling him in celebration after a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Never forget ballot.

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Speaker 4: Hey, when you're forty, when you're forty plus, when you're

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Speaker 4: forty plus, don't talk me.

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Speaker 2: To the I think he was gonna tackle him back. Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know if if we want to piggyback here, but

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Speaker 3: Jason and I go into the Bills game against the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins on the Thursday night and weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole experience was magnificent.

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Speaker 5: I remember we locked eyes at one point. Great moment

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Speaker 5: is after.

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Speaker 2: Your fourth beer, I think in the third total three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, he legit, he legit had on beer goggles.

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Speaker 12: For Dan, the Bat Blue Light was a La Bat

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Speaker 12: blue light mineus the biggest lie of a week of

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Speaker 12: lies Week one, the Raiders going into New England and

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Speaker 12: beating the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: All Right, you got you got a final one.

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Speaker 4: No man, I'm gonna I'm gonna let that thing bro

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Speaker 4: eighty Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: Now a jet dropping the football across the line. Gina

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Speaker 3: falls in line with the Jets. Dan, So yeah, what about.

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Speaker 12: The uh coming back down twenty six?

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Speaker 2: That's not a good that's not a good one. I

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Speaker 2: don't even remember that. He's carrying on. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember twenty ten? We do next