1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Trainee tries to trick me into doing his work, so 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: I deleted everything. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Wow, that seems like an escalation. Maybe an overreaction, right, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I am excited for the story 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: because of this escalation. So let's hear it. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Let's see how it goes. Some context. In my current role, 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: I'm a product engineer and an engineering team. Since I 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: have background in industrial design and not engineering, I have 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: loss of skills not typically found in engineers, including photography, 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: rendering graphic design. Rendering specifically is something I've enjoyed and 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: excelled at and done for a few years now. So 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: today I've been training someone to do three D rendering 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: as I'm about to leave my role at the end 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: of the week. The rendering honestly isn't that hard to learn, 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: but it does take a lot of practice to get 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: really good at it. On a rare occasion, someone might 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: have a natural eye for photography. I certainly did not. 18 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: It took me some time in practice. Trying to explain 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: this to my manager, who doesn't care about photography is 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: certainly interesting. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, when someone doesn't understand what it takes to do 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: art or like the creative stuff, like, yeah, Uh, it's 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: it's almost no use talking to them exactly unless you 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Unless you they just see worse work because of the 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: corners you've had to cut. 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the loot from Hell because you're 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: doing worse work and they don't even understand to like 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: try to. 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: Give feedback exactly exactly. For this project, I was assigned 30 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: around thirty projects to render, but since I'm leaving, this 31 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: list is being transferred to the other person in this story. 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: As the products are large machines, they do take a 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: bit of time to get it looking POI faked poifect 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: I can get everything ready in under an hour, sometimes 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: thirty minutes, depending on the project. 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: And at this point it takes the trainee an entire day, 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: if not longer. So he's literally doing something in thirty 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: minutes that it takes the trainee over a day to do. 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, over a day. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: Over a day like that's that's a pretty huge yeah 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: difference for getting someone to speed. But Opie says this 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: is fair for someone who doesn't have experience. So I've 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: spent three weeks training him. He knows the software and 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: pretty much knows what to do. It's just the practice 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: to become efficient that he still needs. He asked me 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: today to do one last demo from start to finish 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: so he can watch me and take some notes. I 48 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: asked him to pick a product and I'd go through 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: it with him. He picks one on the list, but 50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the once he picks are often complicated. He made no 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: effort to do any of the work to get it ready. 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Whatsoever I had to find and get everything together for him. 53 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: This was the first red flag. As I'm going through 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: my setup, he was paying less and less attention to 55 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: what he was doing, just being completely lazy. He wasn't 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: even asking questions about my process, and most of the 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: time was looking at his phone. 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: That's just rude. At that point, you asked like, hey, 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: can I learn from you? And then you don't even 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: listen or look at That's just rude. 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: And then you're just trying to get matches on tender. Yeah, 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: come on, there's a time and place. Towards the end, 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I briefly ran through everything. I explained a few extra 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: details to improve the lighting quality as well. I concluded 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: by asking these two questions, does this all make sense? 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: And do you have any questions? He applied to those 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: questions yes and no respectfully. Okay, I said, are you sure? 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Are you positive? He replied yes. Brud did not ask 69 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: any follow up questions on zero he did not understand 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: the assignment. I closed the program and then proceeded to 71 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: delete everything, all the work, all of the files that 72 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: we had put together in front of him and told him, 73 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: now it's your turn to practice. 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, he. 75 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Just decimated everything. God. And then I said, you're never 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: going to learn by just copying me, and there's an 77 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: edit to be and what I want to know. 78 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: What you thought or said? Dude? Like what, dude? He's 79 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: so brutal. 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if someone did that to you, Like 81 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: they literally just walked you through everything and they're like, okay, cool, 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: it makes sense. 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: Great delete and I'm just watching, like all the files 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: go to trash. 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: I imagine you've been working on an edit for hours 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: with someone and they deleted it. 87 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: In front of your face, in front of your face. 88 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's so rough. 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: The audacity to do it in front of you, pure audacity. 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: Good god. Oh man, So there is an update edit. 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: To be clear, the guy I'm training is not my 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: manager or a manager. I just realized I could have 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: worded that a bit better, and then the final update. 94 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: I was kind of lucky that my real manager wasn't 95 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: in today. Yeah, honestly, I'll say, like, you're deleting the 96 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: file like that's kind of a lot. He probably would 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: not approve of my teaching methods. But whenever I teach 98 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: anyone anything, the best way, in my experience is the 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: hands on demo first. Then I try and get them 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: to do it under my supervision. But this guy should 101 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: have been way past that point already. I had been 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: through it with him several times. 103 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it is a little brutal 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: to just like delete the project. Yeah, entirely, because it's 105 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: like you already finished it, and then you're just kind 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: of like, I guess, wasting company time. Maybe a little bit. Yeah, 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: that seems it seems a little harsh, but yeah, it 108 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: seems I guess it just seems like unnecessary. 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: It's a bit too far. He apparently already knew that this. 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: He had done this, I guess multiple times with this guy, 111 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: so he should have been like, I'll help you, like 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: get everything set up, go, yeah, and if you if 113 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: you get too far on the wrong path, I'll nudge 114 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: you back onto the. 115 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know if that's like, I think 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: a better thing would be like, hey, you're not like 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: if I catch you not paying attention, like I'm not 118 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: gonna keep teaching you and I'll just give you what 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: you have, right, But I mean, maybe maybe the kid 120 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: learned his lesson, though honestly the kid probably I just 121 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: wish we knew like what his response was, Yeah. 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: Me too, like was like, yeah, I would definitely be passed, 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: although I probably would never be that like unengaged. 124 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean like the kid sounds kind of 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: like a twerp, but uh, lesson learned, don't be a 126 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: twerp and pay attention and that's right. Do you work? 127 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: Do you work