Speaker 1: Jill.
Speaker 2: You know what it is, another episode of the Gainst
Speaker 2: the Chronicles podcast.
Speaker 1: With your boy Big Steal in the house. Yeh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. We got Soaring Baker back again, man, as
Speaker 1: we knocked down this top fifty Gangster Rap albums of
Speaker 1: all time. Man, you know people really take their music series.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: I've been having motherfuckers in the comments, man. They be
Speaker 1: killing me. And I always tell them the list is
Speaker 1: not complete yet. They're not even in numerical order yet.
Speaker 1: We're just naming songs right now that are going to
Speaker 1: go eventually that will wind up on that top fifty list.
Speaker 1: They don't like that shit. They don't like that shit
Speaker 1: at all. They tell me, you butter half some of
Speaker 1: this on that you butter half some of that. But
Speaker 1: they need what people need to realize, man, when you
Speaker 1: start talking about music, it's very very subjective, man, and
Speaker 1: it's all about your opinion. You can go out and
Speaker 1: make your own list. You feel what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure as we get closer to the top, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff that's the same, but some
Speaker 1: stuff like I'm pretty sure because you send me your
Speaker 1: list to day and usually me and you are pretty close.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, me and Soren got a couple
Speaker 1: of them. We have a couple that are close, and
Speaker 1: I guess we should probably just go ahead and run
Speaker 1: throughout our list. You wanna run through mine first, you
Speaker 1: want to do yours first, you should go first. Still, Okay, again,
Speaker 1: these are not a numerical order. They are not a
Speaker 1: numerical orders. So I don't want to hear nobody on
Speaker 1: Instagram telling me, hey man, how you got this or
Speaker 1: that that's a bullshit ass list. But this is what
Speaker 1: I got. I got we come strapped quick as the
Speaker 1: name above the Law, Living like Hustler's se Bow, which
Speaker 1: the gas Chamber.
Speaker 4: That's a masterpiece.
Speaker 1: Right then Tupac Me Against the World, fifty cent get
Speaker 1: Rich doc Trying the Truth by Benny Siegel, Banging on Wax.
Speaker 1: I had to go back on that one. Banging on Wax.
Speaker 1: I had to revisit the album Brother Link, Season of
Speaker 1: the Sickness and Easy Eat it's on one eighty seven killer. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of those. Some of those I
Speaker 5: don't have. But that's that's pretty thorough right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to go back to something though, because
Speaker 1: we always had these debates on which should be considered
Speaker 1: against the Rap. As you know, I've been wanting to
Speaker 1: put Tupac's Me Against the World on there. To me,
Speaker 1: it's his best album. It's even better than All Eyes
Speaker 1: on Me, something I normally get killed in the comments
Speaker 1: for that. But I think Me Against the World was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal album and it definitely was a gangst the
Speaker 1: rap album. To me, it was definitely some gangster stuff.
Speaker 5: It's definitely my, in my opinion, pop's best album. I
Speaker 5: think it's the most introspective and when you look at
Speaker 5: it too.
Speaker 4: To me, it reminds me.
Speaker 5: In a lot of ways of like a Scarface album
Speaker 5: and stealing with a lot of paranoia and doubt, frustration, impression, anxiety.
Speaker 5: And that's of course because he was going through his
Speaker 5: legal situation at the time and was behind bars, so
Speaker 5: or knowing he was about to be behind bars for it.
Speaker 5: So it's a lot of angst in the album, and
Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of introspection. It's brilliant, man,
Speaker 5: It's a brilliant album.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one of my favorite joints on that
Speaker 1: was different around the corner. It was just like a
Speaker 1: lot of pair of noise on there and just you know,
Speaker 1: just that that last verse, he just killed it. I
Speaker 1: was raising the city shit niggas, drinking liquor out my
Speaker 1: mama's titties and smoking weed was everyday thing in my household,
Speaker 1: and drinking liquor to you out cold? Yeah you fuck
Speaker 1: with that ape.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that was one of his coldest albums, man,
Speaker 1: And I thought about man would get rich Dyke trying.
Speaker 1: I think that was like fifty cent Man. He just
Speaker 1: knocked out the park with his debut.
Speaker 4: I got one. I got that one A little higher
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 1: List, yeah, and I had a higher initially, bro, But
Speaker 1: it's just so much great stuff in the top twenty.
Speaker 1: I didn't really see nothing worth. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff the world was. But again, it's just my opinion,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It may wind up steal
Speaker 1: up there. You know, it may very well wind up
Speaker 1: steal up there. I know. Eight. I guess we would
Speaker 1: have to excuse him from doing a list because he
Speaker 1: just he like everything. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't give a damn. I just go through
Speaker 2: you know songs that I you know, it's all kind.
Speaker 2: It's because it's errors.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I come from a long Era, And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you say, you know Gangster album or
Speaker 2: Reality Records or whatever you want to say, but I'm
Speaker 2: kind of biased, you know, from from I'm kind of
Speaker 2: biased from two thousand on back.
Speaker 1: You feel me. I feel I am too to a
Speaker 1: certain you know.
Speaker 2: But I will say, you know, I banged me some
Speaker 2: BG Chopper City.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got that, and I heard that on there.
Speaker 2: I beg gave me some brother Lynch hung what was
Speaker 2: that season of the Sickness? I banged me some motherfucking
Speaker 2: I bang me some motherfucking I bang me some ce Bow.
Speaker 2: I banged me some j O Felony that that uh
Speaker 2: that uh that what you want to do album? Easy
Speaker 2: to Get In. I banged the ship out that motherfucking record.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I banged me some motherfucking is incredible. I banged me
Speaker 2: some East Siders or.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: I banged me some mob deep.
Speaker 4: Deep deep in the top.
Speaker 3: Okay, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I got Quick in there. Quick's first album was The Ship.
Speaker 4: So all three of us got Quick, Quick as the
Speaker 4: name today.
Speaker 1: Ye all three of Quick as the name.
Speaker 2: And then I'll go through some I'll bang me some
Speaker 2: straight checking them. So that's my you know, that's my
Speaker 2: middle teen right there.
Speaker 4: See, I got straight checking them higher.
Speaker 2: I got straight checking them in the middle right there, because.
Speaker 1: You know I got that way higher too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got other records. You know that's higher. You know,
Speaker 2: straight checking them was. It was a good decent record
Speaker 2: for me, Compcion's Most Wanted. But you know, I got
Speaker 2: some records that you know up there, you know, as
Speaker 2: far as what what I listened to, as far as
Speaker 2: what took me through the transition of reality music, especially
Speaker 2: being from Compton in the West Coast. I even say
Speaker 2: I banged me some some some knockout and dresta.
Speaker 1: You thein't had a hard album and I thought about that.
Speaker 1: I thought about that.
Speaker 2: So you know that that that's my middle round. Might
Speaker 2: there you feel me?
Speaker 1: Mmm?
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might as well go.
Speaker 5: Today we're looking at quick as the Name. Okay, Black Mafia,
Speaker 5: Life Above the Law.
Speaker 4: Okay, power iced Tea.
Speaker 5: Okay, this one might surprise people that it's this low.
Speaker 5: What two thousand and one by Dre Okay, back to
Speaker 5: Vince Staples hell can wait living like Hustlers above the Law?
Speaker 3: I got that, Yeah, I got that a little Higher.
Speaker 5: Schooly D Saturday Night the album I forgot about that
Speaker 5: and Saturday Night part of the reason why, beyond the
Speaker 5: fact that I love it this album. On the song
Speaker 5: park Tide five to two is the first time I
Speaker 5: ever remember.
Speaker 4: Hearing anybody gang bang. This came out in.
Speaker 5: Eighty six, he said, Parkside, I'm placing home the PSK
Speaker 5: gangsters liked the room. Cheaper in their hand, thirty or
Speaker 5: cheaper in the hand, thirty two in our socks, protecting
Speaker 5: our turf like it was Ford Knox.
Speaker 1: So right there he's naming his gang.
Speaker 4: He's saying, we got the guns coming.
Speaker 3: We got but we smoke, smoking, We got guns and
Speaker 3: protected hood. Yeah, definitely, yes, indeed.
Speaker 5: So Schoolly shout out to that tear the club up,
Speaker 5: thugs crazy in the last days I had that higher.
Speaker 5: This album is so phenomenal to me. It's I was
Speaker 5: having to be there when they were recording some of it, so.
Speaker 4: I had It's.
Speaker 5: A as you both know when you're working on the
Speaker 5: song and you hear the different changes the songs go
Speaker 5: through while they're being recorded, and then they hear the
Speaker 5: versions that get released, and as you also both know
Speaker 5: when they would have advances. Sometimes it wasn't and that
Speaker 5: was on the album too, So I heard all these
Speaker 5: different versions of some of the songs on Crazy in
Speaker 5: the last days.
Speaker 4: That was Crazy.
Speaker 5: That album is phenomenally produced top to bottom. I got
Speaker 5: Rhythmalism also, uh, and I got partially because of eight,
Speaker 5: Prelude to a.
Speaker 4: Come Up, I got Cypress Hill four.
Speaker 1: That to me is.
Speaker 5: As we'll see with some of my other selections with
Speaker 5: eight being on here.
Speaker 4: But that's one of my favorite.
Speaker 5: Verses as well as your soul Assassins from the first
Speaker 5: album that I think people don't talk about as much,
Speaker 5: but prelude to a Come Up? Who off Cypress Hill
Speaker 5: for If y'all don't remember that, man, you need to
Speaker 5: go check that.
Speaker 3: Because that Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 4: That's an incredible song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: That was one of my first introductions to fucking with mugs.
Speaker 4: You guys work phenomenally well together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mus my peoples, man, you know, you tend to
Speaker 2: meet different dudes, you know when you production wise, as
Speaker 2: far as you know, coming from the West Coast, motherfuckers
Speaker 2: always feel that, I guess your sound should be one
Speaker 2: particular way, and I've always just managed to work well
Speaker 2: with all kinds of producers, from fucking from Slip to
Speaker 2: fucking and Banks to fucking Dash to Mugs to fucking
Speaker 2: Pete Rock to Premiere.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So I like to get versatile when I do music, man,
Speaker 2: I don't like to just stick to the same fucking format.
Speaker 2: So that was mixer. You know, I've always been a
Speaker 2: fan of Mugs, from fucking from Cooling in Cali days man, Yeah, yeah, definitely,
Speaker 2: And that was one of.
Speaker 3: My favorite cuts.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't give Cooling and Cali I was. I
Speaker 1: was in Ohio listening to this.
Speaker 3: And that ship was, man, that ship was cracked.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: So I've always been a Mugs fan, you know, so
Speaker 2: just being able to be able to work with Mugs
Speaker 2: and you know what the work from Cypress Hill to
Speaker 2: like you said, being able to be a part of
Speaker 2: the solo Assassins to.
Speaker 4: Have you all heard the new soul assassin sol Sassin three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cracky.
Speaker 2: I'll actually uh, I probably didn't make it on there,
Speaker 2: but he had sent me a beat to do a
Speaker 2: song with a death and the dude you know the
Speaker 2: weed song. Yeah, it's pretty tight. So yeah, shout out
Speaker 2: to the Mug. Shout out to mugs Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, and I think too because Doctor Green Thumb was
Speaker 5: the big single off four, I think a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Compared to their first three albums.
Speaker 5: I think because Doctor Green Thumb the video was a
Speaker 5: little funny, I think they didn't give the album.
Speaker 4: As much of a chance.
Speaker 5: But he's got you know, be real, I think is
Speaker 5: it's hard to say he's underrated, but he's underrated I.
Speaker 4: Think as a storyteller, as a lyricist and styles.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, definitely any good friend too many be
Speaker 2: real as always. You know, It's been on a lot
Speaker 2: of my songs, a couple of projects. We've always worked together.
Speaker 2: He's another one of those cats that I can just
Speaker 2: pick up the phone and be like a b you know,
Speaker 2: blop blop, and two days later there is the verse
Speaker 2: or whatever. So and he's one of them artists man,
Speaker 2: that's so versatile. You know, he's even though he come
Speaker 2: from the West Coast, Southgate, you know, from the streets
Speaker 2: and whatever. But they music, man, it's just so fucking worldwide.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: They in a different category, if you ask me, They
Speaker 2: rock stars exactly.
Speaker 4: And a different category.
Speaker 5: The thing that really shocked me with the four album
Speaker 5: is because on the first cybers So you had the
Speaker 5: Pig song, and then on this album he had Through
Speaker 5: the Eyes of a Pig where he wrapped it from
Speaker 5: the perspective of the cop and he was talking about
Speaker 5: all the dirt he was doing, and like, I just
Speaker 5: remember hearing that song for the first time and never
Speaker 5: thinking I would hear a song like that from such
Speaker 5: an artist, and it just blew. Like you're saying, he's
Speaker 5: so versatile, it blew my mind. I was like, this
Speaker 5: song is crazy.
Speaker 1: Be real is definitely underrated though, man, and while we
Speaker 1: talked about underrated stuff, it didn't make the list, but
Speaker 1: y'all fuck with Psycho Rehm. Of course, definitely that war story,
Speaker 1: that one and two. Man, I came real close to
Speaker 1: putting them the list because this is dope. Those are
Speaker 1: dope ass album.
Speaker 5: Speaking of Mugs, he did a great album with six Jacking.
Speaker 4: By the way, Oh my goodness, muggs is he's incredible.
Speaker 1: He's a dope man. Shout out to the homie six
Speaker 1: Jack and that's my homeboy. He actually owed me a
Speaker 1: beat from twenty years ago, so I came into we
Speaker 1: need that beat, we need that beef a you know,
Speaker 1: because I went and did something. He had this video
Speaker 1: shoot and this is how Jack call you, Hey, stell
Speaker 1: what you got going on? Man? I'm chilling, Hey man,
Speaker 1: can you come up to the hotel We shooting the
Speaker 1: video right now. I need you to play this part.
Speaker 1: It's like right now, dogs, Saturday night, seven thirty at night.
Speaker 1: I'm chilling with my family, right He's like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: I give you a beat. He said that I was
Speaker 1: herb I was gone home and I get up there, man,
Speaker 1: and we got us in this hotel that's supposed to
Speaker 1: hunt it. I forget the name of it is, but
Speaker 1: it's downtown LA. And when I tell you, man that
Speaker 1: the energy and the vibes in that hotel was spooky
Speaker 1: as the motherfucker. I couldn't wait to get out of there, man,
Speaker 1: because he had me in this dark ass room playing
Speaker 1: a suit like snatching somebody from behind the corner. And
Speaker 1: I forget the name of the song man, but shout
Speaker 1: out to six Jack and the cycle rim Man. They
Speaker 1: got some incredible music, that's for sure. They that's some
Speaker 1: incredible music. One of the things, man, as we go
Speaker 1: through this list man with gangster rap man, I think
Speaker 1: a key component that we always speak upon is the
Speaker 1: art of telling the story. Yeah eight t some immaculus story.
Speaker 1: Because I've been listening to more of your music lately,
Speaker 1: just to get, you know, back in the vibe of
Speaker 1: the list. I've been listening to a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: Perspective yeah, yeah, yeah, they give you.
Speaker 1: A little perspective, man, him be real ice Cube even
Speaker 1: Snoop Man. The West got some great storytellers, man, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. The West Coast has some great storytellers, I
Speaker 1: tell you too. And this is up more top towards
Speaker 1: the top of the top ten, and I think we
Speaker 1: would all have this in the top ten. Not to
Speaker 1: get too far ahead of ourselves, but Ray Kwan, the
Speaker 1: Purple Tape, just the whole story of the album, man,
Speaker 1: just from the beginning of the end. Ill album, Man, very,
Speaker 1: that's ill album you got? You got that in your
Speaker 1: top ten.
Speaker 4: No, I don't have that as a gangster album.
Speaker 1: You don't think that was a gangster album. I think
Speaker 1: it was East Coast gangster for.
Speaker 5: Sure, it is, but it's not to me. It's not
Speaker 5: gangster though what you say.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't consider it gangster rap either. Gray Kume's one
Speaker 2: of my peoples I just think it's on a different
Speaker 2: It's it's a criminology rap man.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that. See to me, gangster ship is
Speaker 1: criminal shit. All that is criminal shit. It's like gangsterism,
Speaker 1: but from East Coast perspective. That's what I think anyway, I.
Speaker 4: Just don't think it has enough well to me.
Speaker 5: Most of my selections directly are about the gang banging
Speaker 5: life right heavily involved in it, directly or indirectly.
Speaker 1: I think as I lean more towards the D boys.
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, see you you because at one point you
Speaker 2: considered Rick Ross gangster ship. That's hustle music, man, that's
Speaker 2: D boy music. That's not that's not gangster music. Rick
Speaker 2: Ross ain't telling you he doing drive buys on niggas.
Speaker 2: Rick Ross telling you he got model bitches on the
Speaker 2: yacht coming.
Speaker 1: From the.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 1: If you're getting your earning your money from the listen activity,
Speaker 1: you a gangster to me. If you if you've earned
Speaker 1: your money from alsted activity, you're selling dope. You got
Speaker 1: the bad bitch with you. You got a jarweed, a nice
Speaker 1: guard gold weed like that. When I showed you just now,
Speaker 1: that's not what we consider gangsterism.
Speaker 3: We consider that d boy.
Speaker 2: Ship like like money man ship. Gangster ship is not
Speaker 2: a nigga who is worried about like the type of
Speaker 2: champagne he drinking and ship what you know he's gonna
Speaker 2: buy woman or yeah, or or you know or if
Speaker 2: I'm on a private plane or not. I'm I'm a
Speaker 2: gangster nigga. I don't get a nigga nigga. You put
Speaker 2: me on the handlebars of a beach cruiser nigga, and
Speaker 2: I'll do a drive by on the nigga nigga.
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck, nigga. My draws can cost.
Speaker 2: My draws cost twenty dollars from the swap meet, not
Speaker 2: a hundred thousand gig about my socks is at the
Speaker 2: six pack nigga.
Speaker 1: I don't pay motherfucker the thousand dollars for silk socks
Speaker 1: and draws all this. So let me ask you thisigig
Speaker 1: You canna have to be a fuck. You gonna have
Speaker 1: to be a forty outs nigger. It ain't gotta be
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars bottle of champage. At times talking about
Speaker 1: smoking motherfuckers, he has smoking, That's.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying. I mean that ship, but Gucci has
Speaker 5: so much other stuff. That dude's got seven thousand songs,
Speaker 5: so it's hard. He's very hard to categorize.
Speaker 1: It's little it's Little Wayne gangst the rap because he
Speaker 1: be on that suit warning and everything else.
Speaker 5: Nah, you don't think so.
Speaker 1: So y'all just go. It's all these it's all these
Speaker 1: prominent great rappers out the gangster rep category. You all
Speaker 1: some cold dudes.
Speaker 4: Man, mm hmmm, I don't I don't see you.
Speaker 3: I don't know what see you.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, I don't know you international with
Speaker 2: your gangsterism still, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: You aspire for the GM to be a little bit
Speaker 1: on the higher level. You could be a gangster to
Speaker 1: be sophisticated with your ship.
Speaker 2: Not saying gangsters ain't sophisticated, but sophistic gangsters is like
Speaker 2: gangster ship is the struggle man, Gangster shit is like
Speaker 2: you get me gangster ship to me, Like, if you
Speaker 2: want to go on the Lil Wayne ship, BG is
Speaker 2: gangst the ship Lil Wayne is little Like Now, now,
Speaker 2: like this is what I say about some shit. Some
Speaker 2: niggas is gangster right when they in the grind, right
Speaker 2: in the beginning, when they're on the block with everybody else.
Speaker 2: We all with the sack, we all trying to you know,
Speaker 2: we all serve in the same motherfucking car. We all
Speaker 2: in the studio on the block together, you know whatever,
Speaker 2: we in the struggle. But if one of us, you know,
Speaker 2: get off a record, nigga and motherfucker, next thing, you know, Nigga,
Speaker 2: I got ten million dollars in my bank account. I'm
Speaker 2: no longer pulling up in the Pinto.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta be now, you gotta I'm pulling under
Speaker 1: the Rose Royce right so now and so now, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the imagery of gangster is what a
Speaker 1: nigga gonna portray any more, because this nigga gonna be
Speaker 1: pulling up in Vasachi jackets and ship now. He don't.
Speaker 3: Niggas don't know how to. Niggas don't.
Speaker 2: Niggas don't know how hell Nah nigga like nig hell
Speaker 2: Nah nigga.
Speaker 3: You gotta like.
Speaker 2: It's some nigga, Like it's some niggas who get money
Speaker 2: and and know how to. The Money's not gonna change
Speaker 2: my aspect of where I come from. Like nigga, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna steal by fucking redbox. I'm gonna steal buy you
Speaker 2: secular jeans and sweatshirts, Like my sweatshirt ain't gonna be
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: You know how I can attest that he telling the truth.
Speaker 4: I seen him wearing this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you know how I know he telling
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 4: Just taking away a system.
Speaker 1: This is when you was kind of like that sho apix.
Speaker 1: This is like ninety three. I'm in the Lakewood mall.
Speaker 1: You know, talk about lake Wood. This nigga loves who
Speaker 1: I see. I guess who bailing out this? Guess who
Speaker 1: I see bailing out the foot locker. I see your
Speaker 1: bell and I'm thinking, like, man, this motherfucker over here
Speaker 1: in the mall, that's MC eight. I didn't come up
Speaker 1: to you and talk to you with no shit like that,
Speaker 1: but it just sucked me up. I said, MC, it
Speaker 1: is really in the mall. And then I saw the
Speaker 1: motherfucker one day in the What's the Dilemma Fashion Center?
Speaker 3: That's why I meet nigga way me.
Speaker 1: That's all you When it swatted me one day and
Speaker 1: I said, this motherfucker really be in the motherfucker streets.
Speaker 2: I never like, Okay, nigga made a little bread, you
Speaker 2: feel me. Did I move out of Compton, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean that's what you're supposed to do, right, But.
Speaker 3: I didn't get into the money shit. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I bet you're fucking with mag Tin. Your
Speaker 1: ass is fucking with that money shit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, mag Ten me and me? When now,
Speaker 2: when I start fucking with Mac, it.
Speaker 4: Was, you know, shout out to section eight.
Speaker 3: It was it was just, you know, it's a different
Speaker 3: time me. I didn't.
Speaker 2: You know, I rode with maybe three four niggas from
Speaker 2: the hood. I never went out and bought like Rolex
Speaker 2: watches and shit like that. But when I got with
Speaker 2: a certain situation, I felt that's the image because the
Speaker 2: whole crew.
Speaker 4: That's what you get me.
Speaker 1: The whole Like I didn't never have chains and shit.
Speaker 2: And you know I got with Mac. They had hoopang
Speaker 2: and chains, and niggas had roles, watches and shit. So
Speaker 2: you know, but me, I just I was one of
Speaker 2: them niggas who I didn't want to forget where I
Speaker 2: came from, and I didn't want to forget the struggle
Speaker 2: that I went through. Like Nigga, I ain't always been rich,
Speaker 2: you feel me, Like Nigga, we came from the struggle,
Speaker 2: so I never wanted to forget that. So I'm one
Speaker 2: of them niggas. Who, nigga, you give me a check
Speaker 2: for one hundred thousand dollar, nigga, and six months from now,
Speaker 2: you like you coming to me like nigga, you ain't
Speaker 2: catch that check yet because I ain't seen it hit
Speaker 2: my bank yet. I'll be like, hell no, nigga, that
Speaker 2: motherfucker lie. I try to stay normal and regular, to
Speaker 2: not get upon and live above my means. I'm not
Speaker 2: one of them niggas who I came from the block
Speaker 2: and then the nigga handed me a million dollars and
Speaker 2: tomorrow I'm finna make you feel like nigga, I.
Speaker 3: Was born with this silver spoon in my mouth. You
Speaker 3: feel me.
Speaker 1: I was always buying for Sachi jackets.
Speaker 3: And pulling up it.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I never and then I never wanted to alienate the
Speaker 2: niggas I was around.
Speaker 1: You ain't never alienate nobody, and I ain't never become
Speaker 1: like I would never no flawsy motherfucker. But I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Not realistic, Musk says boy. When I got the first
Speaker 1: piece of money, man, everything changed. The food I ate
Speaker 1: every fucking thing changed.
Speaker 2: I didn't even try to do that ship, man, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, I just started doing it.
Speaker 1: To this day. It's like I can't go to Denny's
Speaker 1: and eat a steak. Man. I gotta be a little
Speaker 1: petitue for some ship like that. Man, I gotta have,
Speaker 1: you know, gotta I gotta know if this mother for
Speaker 1: the green feed and all that.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker niggas said grain fed. See that's why I be
Speaker 2: talking about man, niggas getting a little money in their pocket.
Speaker 1: Now they want grass.
Speaker 3: Fed beef and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Niggas roll by the fuck motherfucker these eggs, free range,
Speaker 1: niggas walt free range. They want nigga WoT nigga WoT
Speaker 1: glass bottled water and ship you can't drink the plastic
Speaker 1: bottles on somewhere And they say, no, steal is sparkling,
Speaker 1: Yeah you walk yeah, yeah, see that's what the nigga
Speaker 1: has a sparkling You know what. That fucked me up, nigga.
Speaker 1: You know what when I first went to the still,
Speaker 1: you know we were talking about Brixton last episode, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they asked you that steal that spark as like
Speaker 3: know you mean steal.
Speaker 1: You know the first time I went over there, right,
Speaker 1: I see, let me try. Somebody at the table was
Speaker 1: with DJ Cochin and some other people and some other
Speaker 1: motherfucker with who I leave nameless, said, let me get
Speaker 1: a bottle of that sparkling. He thinking water. This motherfucker
Speaker 1: order like five bottles of water, and this ghetto ass
Speaker 1: just they're gulping them down like this. I get my
Speaker 1: bill man them five waters. It cost me like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars. I was like, ain't nobody ordering
Speaker 1: no liquor? We cost that much money? You know. I
Speaker 1: was wondering this bottle man, Hell yeah, fifty dollars a
Speaker 1: fucking bottle. Wow. But I'll tell you what though, that
Speaker 1: shit tastes as good as a motherfucking dog. It was
Speaker 1: a different taste of I forget the name of it
Speaker 1: wasn't quite fifty, it was like forty five. Then we
Speaker 1: ordered some mother shit, man. But you definitely develop a
Speaker 1: different palette when you start getting some money man for
Speaker 1: different shit. And I'm gonna tell you this my thing
Speaker 1: for a minute. I went through my phase, my phase
Speaker 1: with the cars SUVs. Remember when they first started coming
Speaker 1: out with the Lincolns and all that and the Navigators.
Speaker 1: I was in those, man. I would go to a
Speaker 1: dealership man and drop like seventy or something dog, then
Speaker 1: go to the rim shot, spend another ten fifteen and
Speaker 1: just be round the street, just and I would pull
Speaker 1: up on everybody I knew.
Speaker 2: I think everybody did that, and you though with especially
Speaker 2: if you came from a struggle and you got your
Speaker 2: first piece of money. I think everybody wanted to show
Speaker 2: their success around as far as.
Speaker 1: But I shared what motherfuckers though. You share with people though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that shit got old
Speaker 1: quick as a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you learn quick.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You can't share your wealth too much, man, because people
Speaker 2: will taking advantage of your situations, you know, especially if
Speaker 2: they think of your shit came easy as far as
Speaker 2: that music shit, you know what I'm saying, That came
Speaker 2: easy and hard as the difficult as a motherfucker. And
Speaker 2: the worst part about the music shit though, is that
Speaker 2: there are so many lies being told about these deals
Speaker 2: and different things like that. Like I remember they said
Speaker 2: that when Glasses first signed, They was like, yeah, he
Speaker 2: signed for one point five million. I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember that. That that was going around everywhere yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know what, you know.
Speaker 1: What was crazy? He would tell motherfuckers and they just
Speaker 1: couldn't understand. I feel so sorry for Glasses because you know,
Speaker 1: he was new, Like I would hear him on the
Speaker 1: phone like cuz I don't have Like, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: how did to help you your mama keep her house?
Speaker 1: I don't have money like that, you know, outside of
Speaker 1: you telling somebody what you actually got, people really know you.
Speaker 3: Why did they publicized it like that? Then?
Speaker 1: Man, I guess that's just to make a motherfucker look thing.
Speaker 1: But he never came out of his mouth and said
Speaker 1: that that was all the machine, the machine and Black
Speaker 1: Wall Street, and so theoretically his deal was worth one
Speaker 1: point five minutes.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 5: Still they say the deal is one point five but that's.
Speaker 4: If you hit escalators. You sell certain things, you gotta.
Speaker 1: Do certain things, and you gotta put the album. And
Speaker 1: it's just like with the podcast ship like I hear
Speaker 1: motherfucker's talk, but not that I'm in nobody else's business.
Speaker 1: I hope these brothers out here getting every dime they can,
Speaker 1: like shout out to everybody out there getting that money.
Speaker 1: Salute to y'all. I don't have a hating bone in
Speaker 1: my body, but it puts people in a bad position
Speaker 1: when they hear these overinflated deals. First of all, if
Speaker 1: someone comes to give me thirty five million dollars, right,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of responsibility. Right, They're not going to
Speaker 1: just give me thirty five million. I may get a
Speaker 1: piece of it when upon signing, I may get another
Speaker 1: piece after the first season airs. There are too many
Speaker 1: there are too many variables. It's a lot of shit
Speaker 1: that can happen between somebody give me thirty five million
Speaker 1: and I go out there and getting a car accident.
Speaker 1: I ain't hear no more. It's money gone. You ain't
Speaker 1: getting that money back. No, you're not getting it back.
Speaker 1: So a lot of this stuff is really overinflated, or
Speaker 1: it might be spread up, you know, it's usually split
Speaker 1: up the seas.
Speaker 5: Like people talk about these NFL, NBA, even baseball, even
Speaker 5: though I don't really follow baseball. It's like when the
Speaker 5: dude signs a two hundred MILLI and dollar contract, they
Speaker 5: don't give him.
Speaker 4: A check for two hundred million. That's not four or
Speaker 4: five years. And it's all these claus.
Speaker 1: A lot of little clauses. If you go out playing
Speaker 1: basketball the same like the thing is about the NFL
Speaker 1: in particular, if you go out there, if you sign
Speaker 1: the contract and you go out the next day, you
Speaker 1: play with your son in the yard and you slip
Speaker 1: on the mother, it might avoid your shit. You might
Speaker 1: not get the rest of that money though.
Speaker 5: It's all in the language of the contract. That's the
Speaker 5: important part of it.
Speaker 1: You may not get that money. And you know what,
Speaker 1: podcasts and everything else. I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: But Joe Rogan got this. I also say, yeah, Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan show is very valuable as well. He has a
Speaker 1: lot of listeners on all platforms. See some podcasts do
Speaker 1: good on YouTube, but they don't do shitt in audio.
Speaker 1: Some podcasts do well on both. And he's in that
Speaker 1: rare spectrum to where you know, on YouTube and thing
Speaker 1: and the police believe Spotify got all that shit. You know,
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan ain't uploading else to YouTube. They gave him
Speaker 1: all that money they got, that's.
Speaker 3: All they shit now, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: That's all they shipping now. I think people really got
Speaker 1: a twist. And people would sit up there and argue
Speaker 1: with you and then would tell you the business that
Speaker 1: we participated in it. We actual participants in you just
Speaker 1: hating because they got the bag. Why would I care?
Speaker 1: You know, it don't hurt me neither one. I love
Speaker 1: seeing people get money, man, especially in the same lane.
Speaker 1: I mean because that shoot and shit, yeah we're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get it. Check our value is up now,
Speaker 1: you know. But man, no, like that is just too
Speaker 1: much stuff that can happen, man, And I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that hurts kids in the community because
Speaker 1: our salt glasses go through that shit and people thinking
Speaker 1: he had money that he didn't have and he had money,
Speaker 1: but then people forget too. You got to go do
Speaker 1: your album off that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of people tend to take.
Speaker 3: You know, people really probably don't.
Speaker 2: Give a fuck, man, And not too many people are
Speaker 2: familiar or educated with contracts and what you know, as
Speaker 2: far as recoupment and all other shit and what this
Speaker 2: is paid for. So, motherfucker alls, nigga, you got a video. Nigga,
Speaker 2: you got a video in the song on the radio,
Speaker 2: So nigg you got a billion dollars And that's when
Speaker 2: all of you know, do for me come and whatever.
Speaker 2: So that's why I said I've always tried to stay
Speaker 2: grounded as far as with music is concerned, and not
Speaker 2: try to be too braggadocious in my songs. It's just
Speaker 2: like tell stories, like you said, tell stories of modern
Speaker 2: day struggle of you know, the motherfucker who ain't rich,
Speaker 2: the motherfucker who struggles and gotta work a nine to five,
Speaker 2: and you know the nigga who drives the regular car,
Speaker 2: and you know, and I don't got no Rolex and
Speaker 2: no chains, and you know, I got kids at home
Speaker 2: that gotta get school clothes and bills need to be paid.
Speaker 2: Because when you looked upon as when you looked upon
Speaker 2: as as these entertainers, people tend to forget that regular
Speaker 2: life still goes on.
Speaker 1: You know what, I kept regular life going up, bro,
Speaker 1: because I was working as a A and R the publishing company.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, I kept that job for
Speaker 1: the longest, as long even through all the podcast stuff,
Speaker 1: I still got up and went to work because I
Speaker 1: was I never understood the mentality of people thinking, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you're getting this money, now, are you gonna quit your job?
Speaker 1: It's like no, for what, Like, why am I see
Speaker 1: the motherfuckers paying me one hundred fifty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Why am I gonna quit? M Why would I quit?
Speaker 1: You know? And I think people that have never touched
Speaker 1: money before, they always got to, you know, to think
Speaker 1: in their mind that I would be doing this. If
Speaker 1: I were you, I would be doing next, you know.
Speaker 1: And it ain't necessarily like that. It's just everybody's situation
Speaker 1: is different. I was always scared because I come from
Speaker 1: real poverty like Cleveland is. Like I was really poor
Speaker 1: coming up, like like poor or poor, you know, to
Speaker 1: the point where I was picking roaches and shut out
Speaker 1: the cereal, and I just knew I never wanted to
Speaker 1: go back to that life again. I never wanted to
Speaker 1: go back. And that's my biggest fear even to this day,
Speaker 1: of just going back to just abject property man and
Speaker 1: just you know the way you really just like you
Speaker 1: come home sometimes and the lights is off. My moms
Speaker 1: and pops did a good job. They did a really
Speaker 1: good job, because I didn't go through the lights off
Speaker 1: shit too much, but I could. Hell, y'all make sure
Speaker 1: to let them know when they waste food, because it
Speaker 1: bothers me when they get to and their mom treated
Speaker 1: like it's a fucking butfait one, I won't spaghetti, the
Speaker 1: other one I want steak, and she and all this
Speaker 1: different shit, and I'm like, you know what, y'all need eagles.
Speaker 1: When I at my mom's house, we ate whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck she cooked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a very different thing I noticed with the
Speaker 5: younger generations. Even for me. I didn't grow up like y'all.
Speaker 5: But it's like my mom made dinner. That was it.
Speaker 5: There was and I two brothers. It wasn't like each
Speaker 5: three of us got three different meals.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, y'all ate whatever the fuck she cooked, but
Speaker 1: that was it.
Speaker 4: We didn't have a buffet.
Speaker 1: And mom and again man shout out to my mom's
Speaker 1: man and my steppops.
Speaker 3: As a kid growing up, did you know you was poor?
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I was poor until I started going
Speaker 1: over other friend's house that have stuff, and I would
Speaker 1: be like, damn. Like I had a friend named Mike.
Speaker 1: His dad worked for electric company and his mom worked
Speaker 1: for Ohio Bell, like the phone company, so they both
Speaker 1: had pretty good income. They was both in upper management
Speaker 1: and they lived up in the hills. See in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: everybody lived on the east side. It's poor in the
Speaker 1: west side, but then if you like, got the heights
Speaker 1: at the end of your city, that means you doing well.
Speaker 1: You know, got heights on you know, if you got
Speaker 1: Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights. If you haven't even places.
Speaker 2: Said hood heights, nigga, if it was, if it was,
Speaker 2: if it was heights, motherfucker, you was balling.
Speaker 1: And the first thing I noticed, man, that my friend
Speaker 1: I came home with him after school, right and I
Speaker 1: was gonna stay the weekend. We stayed the weekend over there.
Speaker 1: I noticed that he went in refixerator and got the
Speaker 1: fuck he won't if I win the myr refixator and
Speaker 1: drunk up all the juice, and I was gonna get
Speaker 1: fast for you get your fuck. I'd have got my
Speaker 1: head bashed out the drake and that motherfucker that was
Speaker 1: the whole. That's for dinner time. Yeah a picture until
Speaker 1: you're a picture of kool aid glass at dinner time.
Speaker 3: And that was just one glass.
Speaker 1: And I might be able to barter my brother's glass
Speaker 1: from him, motherfucking glass too. I might be able to
Speaker 1: take the glass if his ship up, you know, sneaking
Speaker 1: drink his But fuck that, I really, man, I didn't
Speaker 1: know I was poor until I start seeing ship like that.
Speaker 1: But my pinions did a good job because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you one thing. We always had a Christmas. We
Speaker 1: always had things giving. It may not have been this ship,
Speaker 1: but but you know, as far as food and ship,
Speaker 1: we ate.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Nigga appreciated a fifteen pack of kool Aid with some
Speaker 2: water and sugar.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like you understand me.
Speaker 2: That was like having like, like, Nigga, we might as
Speaker 2: well have a two liter Coca Cola in the frigerator. Nigga,
Speaker 2: motherfucker come in and then moms would be motherfucking real
Speaker 2: scarce with them packs in the drawer. I mean packs
Speaker 2: of kool Aid left and there, Nigga.
Speaker 1: We got.
Speaker 4: They had to count.
Speaker 1: We got like we had to count. We had like
Speaker 1: three or four.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, you're getting no mo so y'all better use
Speaker 2: that kool Aid wisely.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't no And That's what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: wasn't no extracurricular drinking just because.
Speaker 3: You go down you got one glass.
Speaker 1: Look at my kids, you know what they'll do now,
Speaker 1: wecause we got sodas in the pantry.
Speaker 3: We got yeah, you got everything, juice.
Speaker 1: And all kinds. I watched my daughter.
Speaker 2: Nigga got fancy fucking what you got it? There's some
Speaker 2: gold peak and some ship, some good ship.
Speaker 4: I never heard of that one.
Speaker 1: My daughter, my daughter of poor glass of Welch is right.
Speaker 1: She'll work glass welchies. He'd drink a little bit of
Speaker 1: she could sit that ship in the counter. Then she'd
Speaker 1: go in there and get her a Connecting Canada drug ginger.
Speaker 1: Drink a little now, you leave it on the counter,
Speaker 1: shouldn't have drunk. And I go around chasing because I'm,
Speaker 1: you know, coming from where I come from.
Speaker 3: I don't wate ship at that old school.
Speaker 1: So I go over there and drink the ship and
Speaker 1: I drink this and I tell her, hey, why are
Speaker 1: you doing this? And she'll look at me like on tripping,
Speaker 1: like why are you making such a big deal. It's
Speaker 1: just a juice. God, yeah, yeah, because she didn't buy it.
Speaker 3: That's why where kids look at that, but.
Speaker 2: We we couldn't look at ship like that.
Speaker 1: You'll know.
Speaker 2: The kids of today not I mean not to say y'all,
Speaker 2: but I don't give a fuck about that ship. They
Speaker 2: don't like like what I say, value the dollar you know,
Speaker 2: same thing, nigga, you buy a case of water, they
Speaker 2: look at that ship like it's just warm.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: While you're lifting you find half bottles drunk.
Speaker 1: All in.
Speaker 2: Under the bed, nigga, just in the bathroom, every just
Speaker 2: half bottles, just half bottles, half bottles, and motherfuckers be
Speaker 2: like they look at it like what it's water?
Speaker 1: Like why are you let me ask you? Now? Let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. You making that move from
Speaker 1: Compton and going up to the suburbs, what was the
Speaker 1: biggest first difference that you noticed? Because I tell you mine,
Speaker 1: if you tell me, you're.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: See, I had left Compton. You know, I had a
Speaker 2: place in fucking out of a townhouse outside of Compton.
Speaker 3: I stayed in a place.
Speaker 2: Called Hawaiian Gardens, which was right outside of Torigos. So
Speaker 2: you gotta figure back in like three moving to Hawaiian
Speaker 2: guard You.
Speaker 4: Get that after its a during that I.
Speaker 3: Got to Hawaiian Garden.
Speaker 1: Man, I didn't get to Hawaiian Gardens till act really Like.
Speaker 3: I want to say, music to drive by.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, because that's not even that far.
Speaker 2: Music to drive by is when I got to Hawaiian Gardens.
Speaker 2: It's a contant thing, straight checking them. I was still
Speaker 2: on the block. I was still living in Compton with
Speaker 2: those two albums.
Speaker 1: You million dollar events, should I wish? Man?
Speaker 2: I didn't get no twenty I didn't get no big advance.
Speaker 2: My first record is a comptant thing. I think, I know,
Speaker 2: maybe slip me a couple of thousand, wow. And I
Speaker 2: wrote it, you know, wrote every song publishing I wrote.
Speaker 2: I wrote me and chills versus on the whole. It's
Speaker 2: a comptant thing. Record. I probably got about if. And
Speaker 2: I want to say it was a big if. I
Speaker 2: might have got five grand wow.
Speaker 3: So yes, now and that and that's a big if.
Speaker 4: That's total ever period off of.
Speaker 2: It's a contant thing. Yeah, I ain't never seen a
Speaker 2: royalty check of publishing nothing because unown stole my publishing.
Speaker 2: So he's still collecting the publishing offer. It's a constant
Speaker 2: thing and straight checking them, man, So you know that's
Speaker 2: that's something we gotta deal with. But yeah, I was
Speaker 2: still living at home. Off of it's a constant thing.
Speaker 2: I got compensated by him giving me his Suzuki Samurai.
Speaker 2: That's what I got maybe maybe three stacks if that much,
Speaker 2: and his Suzuki Samurai is what.
Speaker 1: I got on some new shit.
Speaker 2: But to a seventeen eighteen year old kid who was
Speaker 2: gang banging and who was living in poverty, Nigga, I
Speaker 2: thought I was rich. You feel me, Nigga, Nigga, I
Speaker 2: went and threw me some motherfucking rims on the Suzuki.
Speaker 2: Nigga threw me a motherfucking shirt wood pull out in
Speaker 2: that bitch in some twelve inches and Nigga me and
Speaker 2: chill be scooting around camped the nigga in the hood
Speaker 2: just you know, because at that time, nigga Suzuki's and
Speaker 2: then my trucks was the ship was so nigga. I
Speaker 2: Nigga got black with the chrome, Nigga with the twenties
Speaker 2: on that bitch and Nigga me a chill up and
Speaker 2: down the loder, Nigga bumping, Nigga bumping that motherfucking boring
Speaker 2: the macga that was.
Speaker 1: That was a life to me. Man.
Speaker 2: I didn't give a fuck about money. And when it
Speaker 2: was time to do motherfucking uh straight checking them, I
Speaker 2: was still the nigga. I think my me and my
Speaker 2: sister shared an apartment in the hood. I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't get no money. I didn't get no money to win.
Speaker 2: I didn't start doing shows until growing Up in the
Speaker 2: Hood dropped, so all before it the end, I didn't
Speaker 2: do shows. I didn't do I didn't do not one
Speaker 2: show office account. Let me ask you this one. I mean,
Speaker 2: because you was famous at that time, dog like you
Speaker 2: were known.
Speaker 4: We had one time Them Up was playing.
Speaker 2: One time Goy for Them Up played like every five
Speaker 2: minutes if you had the juke box, if you had
Speaker 2: to juke, if you had the juke box, one time
Speaker 2: Gay for Them Up was on might be every five minutes.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have a manager, I didn't have a
Speaker 2: booking agent, Like I said, I was still in the
Speaker 2: hood every day.
Speaker 1: So what's his name was? Robin? You already I'm surprised
Speaker 1: he can't double becker try to get some of that money.
Speaker 2: Nah, I didn't get no shows off of it's a
Speaker 2: contant thing, shocking, and then it was in the transition
Speaker 2: of the labels or fears going through what they was doing.
Speaker 2: So basically it's a contant thing. They didn't even get promoted.
Speaker 2: It was just off the fact that one time Gaffle
Speaker 2: Them Up was hitting so hard on the juke box
Speaker 2: is what had us sell like two hundred and something
Speaker 2: thousand records.
Speaker 3: We wasn't getting no radio play nothing.
Speaker 2: All we had was one time gaff of them up
Speaker 2: in that video and video juke box.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see no show, money, nothing. I was
Speaker 2: still on the block trying to sell crack and shit
Speaker 2: because I didn't make no money. And then so when
Speaker 2: it was time to when they did Boys in the Hood,
Speaker 2: I just happened to be hanging with my nigga JD
Speaker 2: and shit shout out my nigga JD from the Lynch Mob.
Speaker 2: I just happened to be hanging with JD and went
Speaker 2: up to the movie set and John Singleton he was like.
Speaker 3: You got that song?
Speaker 2: Everybody was watching the jukebox, so everybody knew about one
Speaker 2: Time God for them up. So he offered me a
Speaker 2: motherfucking and I was like, yeah, right, you know, And nigga,
Speaker 2: I ended up doing Growing Up in the Hood.
Speaker 1: And that's crazy you made bread off that? Hell, No,
Speaker 1: you ain't make no bread off of that.
Speaker 2: No, because unknown was controlling shit was still no one
Speaker 2: was controlling shit, And so I don't know how much
Speaker 2: I got from doing Growing Up in the hood. I
Speaker 2: know I didn't get over five grand.
Speaker 3: Oh hell on record, No, I didn't because.
Speaker 1: Then movie soundtracks back then was giving you was getting
Speaker 1: fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: I didn't start making money until I didn't start making
Speaker 2: my own bread like that until Pool came along and
Speaker 2: offered me the Saint Ice commercial.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I negotiated that with Pooh by myself and they
Speaker 2: ended up giving me twenty five grand. And yeah he did.
Speaker 2: He went back to pooling them talking shit because Pool
Speaker 2: had us growing up in the hood beat as you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, so unknone was bitching. So I
Speaker 2: think they had to give him some money because he
Speaker 2: started claiming, well, I'm the one who produced the beat
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah and so. But I made twenty
Speaker 2: five grand off that shit. So that's when I started noticing, Heyking,
Speaker 2: no more nigga.
Speaker 1: On me out. I'm driving the buffucker Sukazookie Sabaradmara, I
Speaker 1: was driving the Samurai nigga nigga. I was driving the
Speaker 1: Samurai had a motherfucking eighty four cutlass nigga with the
Speaker 1: European front on Dayton's nigga, and I had the Samurai.
Speaker 1: But I'm still living in Counting and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not understanding, Like I'm writing every song woot the womb.
Speaker 1: I was getting a couple of shows off of growing
Speaker 1: up in the hood and whatever, but I was I
Speaker 1: wasn't understanding while I was you know, why am I
Speaker 1: still driving the Samurai around? And I ain't got enough
Speaker 1: money either? Whatever? Whatever that was you.
Speaker 2: Yep, that was my first big check doing the Saint
Speaker 2: started talking and that's when I started going, fuck that,
Speaker 2: because that was at the time where Cube left and
Speaker 2: everybody doing their thing. So I'm like, yeah, man, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to feel a certain way. Wait a minute, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And so that's when that's when. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so shit, motherfucking when it came to do it,
Speaker 2: by the time I did music to Drive By, I
Speaker 2: was at the table like fuck this. Well that I
Speaker 2: was at the table, Yeah, I was at the table
Speaker 2: like fuck this nigga, nah man nah nah. And then
Speaker 2: I found out the nigga stole some money and you know,
Speaker 2: he got a publishing deal and you know, man.
Speaker 1: So didn't pillots and people had to break you off
Speaker 1: some money.
Speaker 2: No, he had already took the money he had already
Speaker 2: cut the deal. We we found out a nigga was
Speaker 2: stilling because the nigga got drunk one night and left
Speaker 2: his check book at the studio and we just happened
Speaker 2: to go through the checkbook and saw a deposit for
Speaker 2: a publishing deal. And I'm going, like, how a nigga
Speaker 2: getting a publishing deal when I'm writing all the songs,
Speaker 2: Slip doing all the beats.
Speaker 1: How much you get on this pub deal?
Speaker 2: He got about seventy grand sea and back, and he
Speaker 2: gave He gave me probably about five grand, gave Slip
Speaker 2: maybe two twenty five hundred and kept the rest.
Speaker 1: Now that motherfucker is a gangster.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Back then anety three, my nigga, break you off seventy grand? Nigga, please, nigga,
Speaker 1: do you know what I would have did with sitting nigga? Please?
Speaker 1: But I didn't know shit, nigga.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm thinking like you know, because like I said,
Speaker 2: I came from poverty, so having a little or something
Speaker 2: was was was better than nothing.
Speaker 1: You know that motherfucker. Even I don't seen bad deals,
Speaker 1: but that's just straight fuckery right there.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's that's that was.
Speaker 2: That was the niggas back then, man, you know, and
Speaker 2: then and the crazy shit about it is it's some
Speaker 2: motherfuckers who feel that today, like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna give a motherfucker what he deserves. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: a motherfucker what I think he should have, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's what I went through, that era of a
Speaker 2: nigga not giving a fuck about a young dude, food compting,
Speaker 2: gang banging.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: You know it's from Detroit, right, yeah, yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: but like I said, I've also I've never been and
Speaker 1: even yeah, man, the way you think about it, but
Speaker 1: I've never been to the point of, not to say,
Speaker 1: appreciative of the dollar. But my most critical years were
Speaker 1: I should have been a millionaire nigga. I was getting scraps,
Speaker 1: but I was. I came from nothing, so.
Speaker 2: Being able to drive around every day, being able to
Speaker 2: have my own apartment, and you know, I thought Compton
Speaker 2: was everything. So I'm still in Compton, and everybody know
Speaker 2: me a little bit because I got the two albums
Speaker 2: out and you know, I was, I was beyond the whatever,
Speaker 2: and you know, majority of everybody besides you know, me
Speaker 2: and quick and that type of thing. But on the
Speaker 2: other aspect, man, I could basically go everywhere. I went
Speaker 2: to different hoods and neighborhoods and hung out with niggas,
Speaker 2: and you know, I still wanted to be considered.
Speaker 1: A normal nigga.
Speaker 2: I low ride up and down Crenshaw with niggas every
Speaker 2: Sunday and shit like that.
Speaker 3: You know, I still wanted.
Speaker 2: To be you know, when niggas had security and was
Speaker 2: living in calabasas and mansions and whatever. Nigga, I'm on
Speaker 2: Crenshaw every night hopping my sixth trade with regular ass
Speaker 2: niggas because I wanted to be a regular niggas.
Speaker 1: Still, that's crazy, man, just seeing the way, like when
Speaker 1: you went over the Who Banger, would you say that
Speaker 1: was part of the label you had the most fun
Speaker 1: on I cause you could have went to no limit too.
Speaker 1: I could have went to no limit.
Speaker 2: I mean I fucked with Mac and Who Banging because
Speaker 2: you know, I felt I wanted to keep my uh
Speaker 2: my following. I wanted to keep my fan base of
Speaker 2: the foundation amount. You know, I was hanging with Dog
Speaker 2: a lot, and Dog had went over there, and you know,
Speaker 2: I met Pee and all the crew and everybody, you know.
Speaker 2: But I was close. But like I said, I hooked
Speaker 2: up with Mac, and Mac was like, you know, we
Speaker 2: West Coast, Let's keep the foundation of the West Coast.
Speaker 1: And so that's funny because he went and took a
Speaker 1: bag over cash money not too long after.
Speaker 2: The exactly but uh, you know, it was just like
Speaker 2: I said, I've always considered myself to be how they
Speaker 2: how they has the phrase the homeboy next door, how
Speaker 2: they say the girl next door. I'm the nigga next door. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm not the nigga who gonna alienate you.
Speaker 2: And you know, you know we grew up the same
Speaker 2: and I want you to feel that same way. I'm
Speaker 2: not no better. I don't want to be posterized as
Speaker 2: oh that's eight, you know. So that's why I didn't
Speaker 2: do nothing out of the ordinary. Uh you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't dress you know, fashion statements, and you know I
Speaker 2: still wear sweatshirts and regular shoes.
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to this no limit
Speaker 1: shit though, man, because you know I used to picture
Speaker 1: him now because you picture him with one of them
Speaker 1: pen of pixel nook covers, of course, but he'd been
Speaker 1: sitting on the throne like this with a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of flyers. They would have had to have they would
Speaker 1: have had to have my shit have blinged out Lowrider
Speaker 1: or some shit like that, you know.
Speaker 5: But eight eight and Solo and Wakanda's most want to
Speaker 5: have some of the best covers anyway, So that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2: Definitely, Like everything happens for a reason, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Going through those trials of of of coming
Speaker 2: out of being signed to a label, trying to figure
Speaker 2: out your next move, you know, you make decisions.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: What would it have taken me? Who knows?
Speaker 2: But I ended up doing two albums with Who Banging
Speaker 2: and then after that I've been independent, like just fuck it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not the blame of ship. It's all on
Speaker 2: my own self. You know, I don't want it. Oh
Speaker 2: we didn't sell this much or we didn't recoup this
Speaker 2: or whatever. What I put into it is what I
Speaker 2: get out of it, and.
Speaker 3: Now that's it.
Speaker 1: That's good enough. So P was really on you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of niggas came after me.
Speaker 2: So you know a lot of the niggas, you know,
Speaker 2: as far as and I'm not to say that I've
Speaker 2: ever been above niggas.
Speaker 3: But my career started early.
Speaker 2: You know, my career started before there was a Master P,
Speaker 2: a Snoop Dog. You know, a lot of niggas man,
Speaker 2: and so I would just like to think that while
Speaker 2: they was in their hoods or going to high school
Speaker 2: or whatever, at one point in time they banged some
Speaker 2: comptence most wanted.
Speaker 3: How could you not have?
Speaker 2: You know, for sure, Pee New Orleans, the West Coast,
Speaker 2: up in the Bay Area. Rich mac Tn was from Inglewood.
Speaker 2: Snoop was from Long Beach, you know, so at one
Speaker 2: point in time you heard some CMW you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So you have to look at it like
Speaker 2: a respect name. You know, I respect other artists. So
Speaker 2: I would hope naturally that motherfuckers would be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it, you know, you know whatever. So mister P
Speaker 2: was cracking at that time, definitely, definitely during that time
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: Trying to sign. That's when he was like the tank
Speaker 1: was rolling, no priority they you know, they had probably
Speaker 1: no limit, had priority on the lock and and everything
Speaker 1: was cracking.
Speaker 3: But like it was like that transition.
Speaker 1: Of the song with Suit the Socker. Yeah, They was
Speaker 1: all in the studio when I came in that day
Speaker 1: when I met everybody, and they was like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know eight, we think about signing eight, so we gonna
Speaker 1: woopy whoop. And I was like, hey, everything is cool.
Speaker 1: So you see your face. No, man, the way you
Speaker 1: was about your music, you're doing that song with Suit
Speaker 1: the Shocker, he and that mother you you probably would
Speaker 1: have loved that ship too.
Speaker 2: Big of that about fucking ship. All the way from
Speaker 2: Cleveland to l b C. Cedigg people have been on
Speaker 2: your ship going.
Speaker 1: We bought it about.
Speaker 2: It, Finn taking that motherfucking check cop and I would
Speaker 2: to get it.
Speaker 1: You get bout it about it all day. Master P
Speaker 1: had some jaming ass records though, Beats by the Pound
Speaker 1: Dog they all that shit complimented that ship was jamming
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Like I said, man, Ghetto D. That's one of the
Speaker 4: best albums Ghetto D.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, Man, I ain't gonna lie, I
Speaker 1: fucked with I fuck about it about it.
Speaker 2: I think I fuckbody did at a point. You know,
Speaker 2: it was the new sound about.
Speaker 4: On the tru album, though.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about about the album that was on ice
Speaker 1: Cream Man too. Yes, it was.
Speaker 2: It was on the ice Cream Man original soundtrack or
Speaker 2: something like that, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: But ice Cream Man. You know why I bought Master
Speaker 1: P's first album. He was like the first king of
Speaker 1: promoting shit. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And before he was, he was a master of that.
Speaker 1: Before I even saw his album, I saw a little
Speaker 1: I was up late at night, man watching b E T.
Speaker 1: A little commercial came on. You remember they used to
Speaker 1: run a little twenty second commercial here and the ice
Speaker 1: Cream Man. I saw that motherfucking ice cream truck right
Speaker 1: and I was like, who the fuck is this dude? Man?
Speaker 1: And then I was at the motherfucking record store and
Speaker 1: I saw that little motherfucker. I saw a poster with
Speaker 1: him on there again with that little ice cream truck,
Speaker 1: and I saw the CD, and I bought that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: When I first heard it, I ain't know what the
Speaker 1: I knew it was some different shit, but I had
Speaker 1: twelves in my truck at the time, and that motherfucker
Speaker 1: was beat and that's all I knew. I bought that
Speaker 1: that day, and I bought Dj'screw twelve in the morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two great ones right now, And I was on that
Speaker 1: shit ever since then. I said this shit right there.
Speaker 1: Always liked Southern shit. So do you consider master P yangster?
Speaker 1: I think Master P a gangster rappit for Sjore. You
Speaker 1: talk about the struggle for sure, that's what you talk about.
Speaker 1: You know, where cash money was more of the rich,
Speaker 1: you know, but they were still ghettle. But they was
Speaker 1: the rich. They was the motherfuckers. You ain't even like,
Speaker 1: you know, the rich motherfuckers is gonna come back and
Speaker 1: floss and baby and them really live like that dog
Speaker 1: like baby. That shit you see him doing on TV,
Speaker 1: that's not no motherfucking act. Stunning, man, is really the
Speaker 1: stunner man. Ty Reese told me when he was signed
Speaker 1: the cash Money Man. He said that he went down there,
Speaker 1: had a block party, and baby was walking around with
Speaker 1: the three million dollar check that the universally gave. It's
Speaker 1: walking around the hood where its the projects. It's like
Speaker 1: showing motherfucker's taking pictures with niggas and shit. Why man,
Speaker 1: that's stunned. That's what he do.
Speaker 2: Money change people, man, some some people, you know, it
Speaker 2: is what it is.
Speaker 1: That's probably who he always was. I think they always
Speaker 1: had bread. It was always some dudes. It was doing
Speaker 1: that stunning them really lived like that.
Speaker 2: Man, I was right to have bread, man, It's just
Speaker 2: you know, you got the I just I just wish
Speaker 2: niggas be more dignified with the bread, like like you know,
Speaker 2: like a like a football coach tell you when you score, what.
Speaker 1: He tell you, man, be humble.
Speaker 3: No, there you go, act like you've been here before.
Speaker 2: So I just be like, man, wish niggas wouldn't be
Speaker 2: so flamboyant, you know, with their bread and just be
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, definitely little more humble.
Speaker 1: Baby is one of the coolest motherfuckers. I don't ever
Speaker 1: met like a good dude shoe what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: I think that's more of the lifestyle that he pushed
Speaker 1: on people.
Speaker 2: So do you feel if you had one hundred million
Speaker 2: you would have to be flamboyant on niggas?
Speaker 1: Even if you had five million.
Speaker 2: If you had five million dollars, do you feel you
Speaker 2: would have to be flamboyant?
Speaker 3: Still?
Speaker 1: No, not really man, especially not.
Speaker 2: But you you know what you come out and you
Speaker 2: know them them motherfucking thousand dollars leather pants with the
Speaker 2: motherfucking well.
Speaker 1: I'ma have some shit on. Please believe I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: have no other pants. Believe, I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 4: You this, give me five million.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna have some other
Speaker 2: pants on. Be one of them fashion nische the niggas.
Speaker 2: That's your fashion statement. You're gonna be a fashion statement.
Speaker 2: Why why you won't got a fashion statement.
Speaker 1: I gotta out be a fascist so you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: like you is right? Just wear this, but every once
Speaker 1: in a while, you gonna see me with the biggess
Speaker 1: motherfucking on. Why not.
Speaker 4: Just bottle leather pants. I'm very I'm very intrigued.
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to pay the mother. Why I want
Speaker 1: the ship because somebody told my woe. Maman told me
Speaker 1: I look good the mother, Oh my god, and I do.
Speaker 4: I got a lot of companies, eight only two of
Speaker 4: us right now. I never had another.
Speaker 2: Pain out looking like the rapper joh Lil with them
Speaker 2: pants on. Man, that hat, he had that dinner shirt on.
Speaker 2: It was a couple of buttons.
Speaker 1: Hell from out a night video, that nigga still with
Speaker 1: sharp as the hell. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you this
Speaker 1: though this I'm be a bigg ass. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: be the biggest fun.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gonna dress like this, but your sweatshirt
Speaker 2: gonna cost a thousand and your jeans gonna cost two
Speaker 2: thousand or is it gonna be the same regular ten
Speaker 2: dollars sweatshirt for off?
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers right here was about three hundred, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and these motherfuckers shoes about one fifty.
Speaker 3: But the thing, no, but my sweatshirt was free.
Speaker 2: My pants cost about sixty bucks, and my shoes was free.
Speaker 1: So no, these ain't these I'm not spending I'm not
Speaker 1: spinning about. I'm not spending all that money on.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just fashion statement, man, I get it. You know
Speaker 1: what we gonna do, Man, I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: You know we're a for renewed right now right, No,
Speaker 1: I ain't doing none of that, man, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: get you a gangster chronicles change. We could both be
Speaker 1: in this motherfucker like this little motherfuckers really talk shit.
Speaker 1: I'ma have a big ass motherfucker things. Brown definitely talk
Speaker 1: ship nigga like, who is y'all? Man? And we're gonna
Speaker 1: get us some big ass diamond and crusty rolex. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, domad dim crust prolex gonna start being like
Speaker 1: stunning man, and I'm just yeah, I'm just making those
Speaker 1: my mother make mind fake man, make min fake like change.
Speaker 1: I would never spend no money like that. Yeah, most
Speaker 1: of them change it was fake though played it. They
Speaker 1: got a lot of fake money. Man. I know a
Speaker 1: spot right now, I know a dude.
Speaker 2: We can go get a motherfucking Let me say this
Speaker 2: before we get out of here. Feel confident in yourself
Speaker 2: and who you is and and if you got money,
Speaker 2: if you're struggling, if you don't got money, man, don't
Speaker 2: be in a position to where money has to change
Speaker 2: the outlook of who the fuck you are, and you
Speaker 2: forget who you came from. I came from the struggle,
Speaker 2: so I always want to be not to be reminded.
Speaker 2: But you can always fall down that ladder quickly, quick shawl.
Speaker 2: Niggas didn't call me tight for nothing in the hood.
Speaker 2: That was my nickname in the hood, Tight because I
Speaker 2: was tight as a motherfucker when they came and giving
Speaker 2: a niggas won't go half on the weed on the beer,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I ain't got it and probably have
Speaker 2: about one hundred dollars in my pocket.
Speaker 1: I don't take the route of flocking. I take the
Speaker 1: route of saving for a raady fucking day. That's how
Speaker 1: I am. I'm just talking shit, you damn shit. But
Speaker 1: it saved your money because I want them to look.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I had my moments just frivle the spending.
Speaker 1: But it takes you hitting broke, getting broke one time,
Speaker 1: because I also feel the fuck off. One time when
Speaker 1: I was working at that publishing company and I had
Speaker 1: we getting little record deals here and there, and that
Speaker 1: I was spending money, man, I was spending about like
Speaker 1: thirty forty a month, just bullshit. And you know what happened.
Speaker 1: I lost that publishing job, man, and all the little money,
Speaker 1: the little bit of money that I did happen to
Speaker 1: have in there that shit window.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something, ain't more humbling being
Speaker 1: able to spend as much money as you want to
Speaker 1: and then your ass looking for a job exactly, ain't
Speaker 1: nothing more humbling. After that experience, I became a lot
Speaker 1: more fucking sensible with my money. Man, It just leave
Speaker 1: too fast. See what I find is this money is
Speaker 1: easy to get, it's just hard as hell to keep.
Speaker 5: It just depends man, it's crazy because I didn't grow
Speaker 5: up poor by any means, but we didn't have extra money.
Speaker 5: So I never had the good shoes like everybody. I
Speaker 5: never had a bunch of clothes. We we just didn't
Speaker 5: have extra money. So for me, that's where I developed
Speaker 5: my save money. Smart with your money because there might
Speaker 5: not be any extra Yeah, it's real. We didn't miss
Speaker 5: meals or anything, but of what, we never went out
Speaker 5: to eat either.
Speaker 4: We never went anywhere.
Speaker 5: So it's like it's just a very different uh mentality.
Speaker 5: So like we're saying, if I got a five million
Speaker 5: dollar check, it would be very much like eight.
Speaker 4: I'd still be wearing the same.
Speaker 1: Dude, I would still be in the same house. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm being real with but we in l a yacht.
Speaker 3: You won't get no yacht.
Speaker 1: Hell no, I'm talking ship. Dog. I'm like, I'm being
Speaker 1: real right now. The house I got is fine. I
Speaker 1: don't want no other crib. I don't want no other
Speaker 1: expensive if anything. Now I'm trying to stack we not
Speaker 1: I'm not on the other side. I'm not twenty no
Speaker 1: more dog to wear. I got other ship to think
Speaker 1: about in the future. You know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 1: not getting in there. You see me in the same truck.
Speaker 1: I mean right now, we.
Speaker 2: Ain't drinking Chris style every day for like a month
Speaker 2: of that man. Nothing that wilks great juice. You got,
Speaker 2: you get fined. You gotta put it.
Speaker 3: You gotta put the motherfucker frigerator in.
Speaker 1: You know we got a Miller sponsorship. If anything, I'll
Speaker 1: be sucking down from the Millers Center.
Speaker 2: We gotta get you a fancy frigerator with nothing but
Speaker 2: bottles of down p and that ship you you smoke with, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know to everybody else, out of everybody else.
Speaker 2: Is gonna buy your own dispensary and put it inside here.
Speaker 1: So you already on that note, we out of here.
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week. Jill.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you how we go.
Speaker 1: If I lie, my notes will brow like Pinocchio. We're
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth.
Speaker 1: It's not your ever