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Speaker 1: who will fight the government. We meet her in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Before we begin, please note that for this story we

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Speaker 3: interviewed Medium and everyone else for dozens of hours in Spanish.

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Speaker 3: We hired actors to voice their words in English.

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Speaker 2: By then, it was much more than a feeling. I

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Speaker 3: It's late afternoon, nineteen seventy seven. Medium is in a

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Speaker 3: since Argentina's military seized power a coup to bring back

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Speaker 3: peace and stability, says the military dictator, people like Medium,

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Speaker 2: I was actually worried about my grandmother. It had been

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Speaker 3: From Orbit Media, I'm andres caaba scheedo. This is Avenger.

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Speaker 3: The Story of Medium Lewin, Episode one the process. Fast

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Speaker 3: forward three decades to twenty ten. It's four in the afternoon,

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Speaker 3: In Argentina, Medium is a well known investigative journalist and

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Speaker 2: all there dates, roots, origin, destination, and the most important

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Speaker 3: I spent a lot of my childhood in Argentina in

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Speaker 3: One day he decided I was old enough to hear

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Speaker 3: I had a lot of questions, but my grandfather didn't

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Speaker 3: were still searching for answers about loved ones who had

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Speaker 3: For a long time, journalist, Medium Lewin wanted to bury

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Speaker 3: Then one day, an annoying, rude, incredibly persistent Italian phota

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Speaker 3: journalist entered her life, asking lots of uncomfortable questions. Theirs

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and seven, Giancarlo Siraulo is living in

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Speaker 2: He says he's been assigned to take some portraits of me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know something about a story about survivors of

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Speaker 3: In his thirties, Giancadlo is a bit of a nomad.

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Speaker 3: He's been all over the world telling stories, taking photos,

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Speaker 2: I was in a bad place emotionally at the time.

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Speaker 2: I was in my fifties. My two boys were in

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Speaker 2: I was alone, heartbroken. I needed some sort of distraction,

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Speaker 3: She agrees to meet gian Cadlo at a cafe in

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Speaker 3: not the first time that a foreign journalist contacts Medium

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Speaker 2: He says hi with a kiss on the cheek. He's

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Speaker 3: They start talking, gian Cadlo seems eager, too eager. He's

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Speaker 2: He was kind of telling me, how come you never

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Speaker 2: that felt like a lack of respect. You know, how

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Speaker 2: dare he ask me that I'm a survivor of a

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Speaker 2: I have no idea where the planes could be and

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Speaker 2: why why should I care? But then again, through those planes,

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Speaker 2: And then Giancarlo pulls this strange looking book from his backpack.

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Speaker 2: He puts it on the table. It's written by a

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Speaker 2: guy named Adolfo Silingo, a former Navy captain He was

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Speaker 2: a death flight crew. I knew about Silingo. I mean

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Speaker 2: I had heard about him, but I hadn't seen this

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Speaker 3: It was an obscure book, only a few copies were

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Speaker 2: Was there possibly something big to investigate, something that had

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Speaker 2: Abandoning the cause wasn't even an option for us. We

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Speaker 3: The economy was in shambles.

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Speaker 2: During the last months of nineteen seventy five, everyone already

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Speaker 3: Argentina's armed forces took control a coup led by General

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Speaker 2: He would say things like the process would require time

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Speaker 3: Values, values that General Videla says were threatened by subversives, students,

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Speaker 2: That rhetoric about preserving Western Christian values, about creating paranoia

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Speaker 2: We didn't see Argentina as a banana republic, and we

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Speaker 3: Everyone is standing. Suddenly, two giant doors open and General

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Speaker 2: Rumors about horrific torture started going around.

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Speaker 3: The rumors are true. The Junta takes its crack down

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Speaker 2: People having their arms ripped off their bodies, electric shocks, rape.

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Speaker 3: For medium, it means leaving her parents' house. She knows

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Speaker 2: The thing is that immediately after the coup, the military

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Speaker 2: the fear and terror was not only aimed at armed

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Speaker 2: they were targeting their families too. It was too dangerous

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Speaker 2: He was against my activism. He knew how committed I was,

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Speaker 3: By then, MEDIUM had fallen in love with a fellow

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Speaker 2: He was sweet, adorable. Never again did I feel the

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Speaker 3: After the coup, they drop out of journalism school and

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Speaker 2: Juana and I got a place at first, but I

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Speaker 2: We were never in the life of a typical couple.

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Speaker 2: At that very informal ceremony, the guy called us a

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Speaker 3: Crackdowns become more frequent. They have to go back to

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Speaker 3: And there was one critical part of their group's training

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Speaker 2: We had decided to take our own lives before having

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Speaker 3: Two nights before her kidnapping, Medium is walking through the

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Speaker 2: It was raining that night. I noticed a car with

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Speaker 3: Two days later, on May seventeenth, nineteen seventy seven, Medium

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Speaker 2: And I keep screaming off the top of my lungs.

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Speaker 3: She yells out her phone number, begging anyone who can

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Speaker 2: I reach into the pocket of my leather jacket. I

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Speaker 3: Usually cyanide pills are made out of glass. Once you

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Speaker 3: The poison enters the bloodstream quickly, but Medium cyanide capsule

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Speaker 2: I try to puncture the pill with my teeth as

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Speaker 2: He says, Miriam, look at me. I am the man

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Speaker 3: From Orbit Media, this is Avenger, the story of Medium Lewin.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host and see your produce Ucer Andrescavacchedo. The

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Speaker 3: series was produced by Eszeguiel, Rodrie Sandino and edited by

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Speaker 3: Monica Campbell. Original score Nicolas Paschella. Mixing and mastering Christopher

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Speaker 3: Hoff and Austin Smith. Assistant producers Andres Feschtenholz and Eleana Gillespi.

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Speaker 3: FactCheck Alejandro Marinelli and leonardos Canone. Legal review Neil Rossini,

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Speaker 3: Casting director Paula Gammon Wilson. The executive producers from Orbit

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Speaker 3: Media are Steve Fishman Fisher, Stevens, Marcy Wiseman, and Katie Springer.

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Speaker 3: The voice actors in Avenger include Alexis Blodel as Medium,

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Speaker 3: Lewin Fulio de la Volta as Giancarlo Serraudo, Gonzalo Vargas

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Speaker 3: as Enrique Pinedo, Edgardo Manono Castro as Bruno Vain, and

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Speaker 3: Tom Schubert as Carlos Macosmiliana and Gustavo. This podcast was

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Speaker 3: produced in association with Sonodo. The Sonodo executive producers or

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Speaker 3: Camilla Victoriano, Joshua Weinstein and Jasmine Romero. The rest of

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Speaker 3: the Sonoda production team includes Senior producer Carmen Gratedol, editor

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Speaker 3: Rodrigo Crespo, producer Paloma Navarro, Nicoletti, Evelyn Uribe, Mariana Cornello,

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Speaker 3: Sara Mota, Manuel Parra, Hanna Baram and Tasha Sandoval. Special

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Speaker 3: thanks to Radio and CASA and Pomeranek Recording Studios in

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Speaker 3: Buenos Aires, and to Medium Lewin and Giancarlo Serralo for

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Speaker 3: letting us tell their story. Thank you for listening.

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