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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middelkov three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast back at it again August recording this Bad Boy.

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Speaker 1: And we got football now, not actual football because we

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Speaker 1: don't have preseason games this year, but we have people

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Speaker 1: in football pads in the National Football League practicing, and

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Speaker 1: with that we get a lot of stories come out,

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Speaker 1: and it makes my job easier and it makes you

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Speaker 1: guys hopefully interested in football. And we got less than

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Speaker 1: a month before the NFL season kicks off, even in

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Speaker 1: this crazy year that they call Corona two, but we

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Speaker 1: got a lot going on, and from Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians to Alex Smith's incredible comeback story to you

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Speaker 1: know a player in the NFL that took off at

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Speaker 1: the Combine a year ago, and I I think might

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Speaker 1: Something I saw today a story once training camps like

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Speaker 1: I I did not like some of the stories that

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Speaker 1: I've seen coming out of this training camp. Just it

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Speaker 1: doesn't fly. It doesn't fly with me. And then of

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Speaker 1: course the Middlecoff mailbag at John middlecoff is my Instagram handle.

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Speaker 1: You come in my d M s, you asked me

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Speaker 1: a question and you get on the show. It's the

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Speaker 1: millennial version of Callers. It's it's how we It's the

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Speaker 1: people show, and it's how you guys get involved. And

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Speaker 1: then also if you guys listen on Collins Feed, i'd

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Speaker 1: my hat to you. Okay, I saw something today that

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Speaker 1: made me a little worried and I want to like

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Speaker 1: this guy. I went up on my own introduced myself

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Speaker 1: to him at the combine because we have a mutual

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Speaker 1: friend and he's the head coach for the New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge. He's an impressive guy when you're just having

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Speaker 1: a one on one conversation with him. He's obviously worked

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Speaker 1: for two of the best ever in Belichick and Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: He has a very very good resume working for those

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Speaker 1: two individuals, constantly being elevated and be given more responsibility

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Speaker 1: under their watch. But the headline I saw today made

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Speaker 1: me more than shake my head. It made me think

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Speaker 1: because when I see these type things and I pet

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Speaker 1: peeve of mine is in professional sports. It's more in

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Speaker 1: basketball when you get technical fouls, when they te guys

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Speaker 1: up for swearing like this. This is not little league,

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Speaker 1: this is not high school. We're not teaching life lessons

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Speaker 1: in the pros. And it has happened. A couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, Justin Thomas got caught swearing on the air

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Speaker 1: and the broadcast has to apologize. Hey, everyone watching, if

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Speaker 1: you're watching, if you're a referee, these are games for

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. The PGA Championship, the purse was

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Speaker 1: eleven million dollars. NBA playoff games, reputations and legacies are

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Speaker 1: on the line for life. So yeah, occasionally a guy's

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Speaker 1: is a little different, treat their players like they're not professionals. Now, listen,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, and I think Giants fans would agree right now,

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Speaker 1: are a train wreck franchise. They are a disaster. You

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Speaker 1: could argue both franchises are kind of in shambles, but

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about the Giants, who historically have been

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Speaker 1: I mean, just one of the staples of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: These last couple of years have been not just ugly,

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Speaker 1: I could have told you that before. Once you got

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Speaker 1: rid of Macadoo, you're basically just hiring another Macadoo who

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Speaker 1: We all could have seen that coming. Now you could

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Speaker 1: maybe it's because I've been listening to Colin for fifteen

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Speaker 1: let me repeat, I hate frauds. I can't stand frauds,

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Speaker 1: people that say one thing and do another. I despise

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Speaker 1: hypocrites like I. I I have no patients. I have no

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Speaker 1: I think politics on both sides it's just so fake.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is just bullshit. Now it's not because

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Speaker 1: it affects our lives, right with their policies and taxes

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Speaker 1: I say it all the time, like they're they're both

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Speaker 1: But it's just all fake. It's just it's just so bullshit.

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Speaker 1: And we've all worked with people they just you know,

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Speaker 1: like your best behavior as a young employee in your twenties,

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Speaker 1: a complete fraud. Now, I don't think the Belichick guys

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Speaker 1: And use the instables that Belichick taught me. Right, And

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Speaker 1: two things, listen, it's sports. So when you screw up,

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Speaker 1: They ain't Little league. This is the big leagues. Joe.

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Speaker 1: I know you almost ended up in Mississippi State, but

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Speaker 1: you can't do this at the At the New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: you can't make and listen. Freddy Kitch is gonna be

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Speaker 1: it's just easier to operate. Now. Just because you're the

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Speaker 1: But Joe Judge, you're gonna make Jason Garrett run a lap.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I know. I don't think you know more

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Speaker 1: And then when I see that, he says that they

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Speaker 1: That might be even dumber than the laps, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Like taking decals off helmets, right, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: four years. I'm say Kwan Barkley right, like that, that's

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Speaker 1: want to take the decal? Okay, take my name off.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, thinking how counterproductive that is. It's

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Speaker 1: just so you know we can be more efficient. Is

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Speaker 1: need to see that. I just can't have enough respect,

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00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't have any more respect for this human

427
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: being because he has no business, Like he doesn't need

428
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: to be doing this, but you can't. What's inside of

429
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: that human being is something that we all kind of

430
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: wish we had. I would die to have that. And

431
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: I view myself Listen, I'm not trying to actually have

432
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: some ugigo or anything, but I'm a pretty gritty s ob.

433
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: But when I see something like that, I go, God,

434
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: he's on a completely different level than me, right, every

435
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: most humans. I know. I can't relate to that, because

436
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: if you gave me those type career earnings, and you

437
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: gave me even even if I had somehow been able

438
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: to walk again and make it to the wounded Warriors

439
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: area and paddle through and get to where I could walk,

440
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could have tried. No, I'm

441
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I just would have been like, listen,

442
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: I would have retired from the NFL, and I think

443
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: the majority of humans, even gritty humans, would have probably

444
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: retired from the NFL. So that this guy is just

445
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think we all agree that NFL players

446
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: and hockey players just the physicality of the sport, the injuries.

447
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: We all respect, how physically tough they are. To me,

448
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: this is on a completely different level. And you know,

449
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: I think the NFL is lucky to have a guy

450
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith still around. Okay, let's dive into a

451
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: player that I think is about to become a star. Now.

452
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: This player is famous mainly because and typically when this happens,

453
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: when you become famous for something that happens in the

454
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: off season before you're drafted, I usually red flag you

455
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: because it's usually like jumping out of a pool, or

456
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: like a dude pushing a truck up Mount Everest. I mean,

457
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: we we've seen it all at this point, right, a

458
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: dude carrying a house on a shoulder. Training, So it's like, listen,

459
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: se Kwan Barkley used to have videos that win viral

460
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: of him squatting like eight hundred pounds and then he'd

461
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: gash Michigan, gash Wisconsin, Gash Ohio State. He always backed

462
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: it up and he was king of videos going viral

463
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: for doing freaky stuff, but then he backed it up

464
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: with great play. I don't pretend to watch MUSS much

465
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Old Miss football. Over the last several years, they've been

466
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: really shitty. I watch Alabama, watch L. S U, I

467
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: watched Georgia, I watched really good teams. I watched the

468
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: games that are on CBS out West to twelve thirty.

469
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Used to be with Verne forever. Now it's with I

470
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: don't even know the play by play guy, but it's

471
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: it's my favorite game. When it's you know, L. S Obama,

472
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: right Texas and M Auburn, Uh, Georgia, Florida, it's a

473
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: it's a great game. It's CBS pays hundreds of millions

474
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: of dollars for the rights, actually pay a pretty cheap deal.

475
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I think it's going to ABC here in a couple

476
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: of years, but it's It's been the number one television

477
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: product on Saturdays for a handful of years now, beside

478
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: the Ohio State, the big Ohiouse Day games. And when

479
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: the picture of DK Metcalf went viral, I said, is

480
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: this guy even human? He kind of we all laughed

481
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: at it, right because he made a J Brown, who

482
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: was the better player in theory that still might be

483
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: We'll see how he might be a star too. Look

484
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: like me, I was like, what is who is this guy?

485
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: Is this guy you know in the strong man competition?

486
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: He he made David Boston look strong And it turns

487
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: out David Boston was just steroids and just he was

488
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: like what is this? And then he goes to the

489
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: combine he runs four two. I start texting people, is

490
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: this guy gonna go on the top ten? I got

491
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: a lot of responses like l O L slash that

492
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: was really impressive. And then he gets drafted Seattle Seahawks.

493
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing we know in football basically like

494
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: the opposite of baseball. It's not a plug and play sport.

495
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: I can trade for the best third basement in baseball.

496
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: Let's just say it's Matt Chapman of the Ace or

497
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: Nolan Erinado of the Rockies, and I need a third baseman.

498
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: I just plugged that guy in a third base. I

499
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: put him at third in my lineup and he dominates.

500
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Let's say I need a number one starter. There's no

501
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: such thing as fit I just go pay a guy

502
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: to million dollars Max Suers or Garrett Cole, and he's

503
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: my ace and he starts shoving it down your throat.

504
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: One football, if I run a zone running scheme and

505
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: I pick a guy that is not comfortable in the

506
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: zone running scheme, he can be a really talented running

507
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: back and look bad. Just like I can make a

508
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: guy that can look pretty average on college film and

509
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: put him in that zone running scheme and he'll look good.

510
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: It's been happening for years. The Shanahan family has made

511
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: a living half of it off. So the fit in

512
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: football is very, very important. We definitely see it off

513
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: than on defense, like a lot some teams aren't comfortable

514
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: with six three corners. Pete Carroll form, there's a reason

515
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: Richard Truman goes in the fifth round. Now, maybe he

516
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: would have became a star anyway, but he went to

517
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: the perfect fit in Seattle. And what I see with

518
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is listen, I don't pretend I watched some

519
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: YouTube's of him when he got drafted, and highlight tape

520
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: can make anyone looks sweet, and his highlight table looks sweet.

521
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: But I remember last year I went to I went

522
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: to the Monday night game at lee By Stadium against Seattle,

523
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: and he had already been making some place, and he

524
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: was obviously on a radar again because of that picture

525
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: and then the picture and then the video that went

526
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: viral of Pete Carroll taking off his shirt. But it's

527
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: fair to say that Russell Wilson is the best deep

528
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: ball thrower in the league. He throws the most beautiful

529
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: deep ball. Doesn't mean he has the strongest arm, it

530
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he throws the hardest. He just throws the

531
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: best deep ball in the league. And I think deep

532
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf right now as I'm sitting here on August seventeen,

533
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: two thow is probably the best deep ball Maybe Stepan Digs.

534
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he'd be on the shortlist of guys have

535
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I had a deep ball thrower like a Russell Wilson.

536
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: That's what ultimately the Bills want with Josh Allen. Now,

537
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: he's got to complete those balls Russell does. But you

538
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Dk Metcalf's on the short list

539
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: of that lead. You know, of the guys I'd want

540
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: to shawn for a long long period of time, was

541
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: that guy. It's hard to find him because a lot

542
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: of guys we see come through look fast, they don't

543
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: necessarily look like DK. But we've seen a lot of guys,

544
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: for three that are just hauling asked by corners and

545
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: then they can't catch a cold, or they're just not

546
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: that skilled, they don't have good ball skills. But I've

547
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: been seeing this guy go viral the last couple of

548
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: days on social media, and then I've seen some headlines

549
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: like DK metcalf is stealing the show. But what I

550
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: saw that night at the Monday night football game, because

551
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: it was clear early on, like this guy's pretty skilled,

552
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: good fit is Richard Truman was lining up over him,

553
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: and I was watching, like, I wonder if this guy

554
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be a little intimidated by Richard, And when

555
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: they would go, when they would as they run the

556
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: ball a lot, and d K would go right after him.

557
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 1: Now he wouldn't necessarily win or whatever, but he wasn't scared.

558
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like this guy. He ain't flinching against

559
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: arguably one of the best, if not the best quarter

560
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: in the league. Definitely the toughest corner in the league.

561
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Definitely a guy if you're not tough, he's gonna intimidate you.

562
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: And DK wasn't hesitating and they were tossing each other around.

563
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean, DC is huge too, and I was like, God,

564
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I like this guy. And then as the season went

565
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: on he kept making plays. In that playoff game against

566
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I was like, damn, he had eleven catches

567
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: in the playoffs in two games. He obviously had fifty

568
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: eight catches, even touchdowns. I think we're looking at a

569
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: future star. He's in the perfect fit. He's got a

570
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in the peak of his powers who does what

571
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: he needs to him to do perfectly. Because I was

572
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: I was texted with the player in the league who

573
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: played against DK, and I said, what do you think?

574
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: And they're like, I was actually really impressed. He's pretty talented,

575
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: but you can see laterally he's gonna be a little

576
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: straight line. He's not gonna be you know, Antonio Brown

577
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: or Julian Edelman like. He's not the most um. I

578
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: would say his change of direction is not great. He's

579
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: a little stiff. But in terms of the go the post,

580
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: anything deep breaking, he could dominate and he should and

581
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: he might dominate at those routes because he's faster, he's bigger,

582
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: and he clearly has pretty good ball skills. And then

583
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, you're very dependent on the guy

584
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: throwing you the ball while he's playing with a Hall

585
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback that throws the go and the post

586
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: as well as any quarterback in the league. So if

587
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: he had fifty eight and seven last year when they

588
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: were kind of still forcing the run, and I saw

589
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: a quote from Russell Wilson the other day like, hopefully

590
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: we can start approaching some of these games with the

591
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: urgency that we have in the fourth quarter where we

592
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: throw the ball all the time earlier in the game.

593
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: So I think the Seattle's point differential last year was

594
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: a trucious I'm i swear someone told me the other

595
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: day it was seven. I don't want to in the

596
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: middle of a rand, don't want to google it, but

597
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: it was not great. They were inconstantly in tight games.

598
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Every single Seattle game look the same. There's like a

599
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: tie game with seven minutes left, and it shouldn't be

600
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: that way. That they should take advantage of lesser teams

601
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: and a part of that, and I think a lot

602
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: of like football people pushed back the Pete forces the run.

603
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: We'll see, maybe they'll change a little bit. What will

604
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: force them to change is this guy DK Metcalf hauling

605
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: ass down the sideline wide open, because you'll start throwing

606
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: that ball to him, and I see, and I've seen

607
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: this since they started even doing walkthroughs. The chemistry that

608
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: Russell and Decay have already feels pretty special. Listen. I'm

609
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: not I'm more of a daily fantasy guy than a

610
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: full year fantasy guy. But if you're a fantasy football

611
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: person and you're gonna draft, I would think about this

612
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: guy relatively high because if you said, John, what would

613
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: you imagine if DK really breaks through a big year

614
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: for him would be I'd be like, and twelve touchdowns.

615
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: I think we're looking at a star, and I think

616
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: his teammate's gonna be a star. To a J. Brad's

617
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: college teammate, a J. Brown. You're looking at those two guys,

618
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: It'll be one of those Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham situations

619
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: where you look back and you go, how the hell

620
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: didn't all miss win more games? And this is often

621
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: where in the scouting circles we we tend to think

622
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: if a guy is being under utilized, but he's really talented.

623
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: We don't put much stock into whatever that coach says

624
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: that that given program. We look at that coach go, yeah,

625
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: you're probably screwing this up. This is probably on you.

626
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: You have way too much NFL talent here to be

627
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: a five six win team. Now. I know DK battles

628
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: some injuries, and that's you know, when you're that tightly

629
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: built and that big, you know, pulling hamstrings and soft

630
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: tissue injuries are always gonna be something to monitor. Sure

631
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: looks like he's pretty healthy last year. Sure looks like

632
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: these visuals I'm getting from the seas Twitter account. Again,

633
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt, but I saw

634
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: him do this in games last year. He looks pretty

635
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: damn good. I think this is one of those guys

636
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: and it comes up on you fast, right, It just

637
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: whoa all of a sudden, He's an eight catch guy.

638
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: It happened with Michael Thomas, right, it happened. I think

639
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: it was year three with Davante Adams. It just happens.

640
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: And this guy is already on the radar because he

641
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: had a good rookie season and he's healthy. I I

642
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: just think the fit, I think just the chemistry that

643
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: he already has with Russell his physical attributes and just

644
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: how hard it is to play defensive back in two

645
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: thousand twenty. Right, you can't really hit him, so you

646
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: can't really intimidate him. He's gonna be bigger than every

647
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: corner he goes up against. Besides Sherman that we're looking

648
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: at a star here, dk Heitcalf pro bowler. Don't be

649
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: shocked when it happens at the end of this year.

650
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Let's start with Tom Brady and his new head coach,

651
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians And we say this all the time, and

652
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: we see this with social media, like this would never

653
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: happen in my office. Well, this is not how it

654
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: works in the real world. Well, pro sports aren't exactly

655
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: like the real world, and really sports in general. You know,

656
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: the only corporate setting I've really worked for beside the NFL,

657
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: was in in radio. And it's not like I had

658
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: an office there in the sense of I came in

659
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: to do my show. When I left, I wasn't there

660
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: like eight to five. But I have enough friends and family,

661
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: I've seen enough television shows like you're not getting yelled

662
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: at consistently unless you work for you know, crazy people

663
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: in like Wall Street in an office job, you're not

664
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: getting MFT when you screw up. Now, it doesn't mean

665
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: you don't get in trouble or don't get reprimanded. But

666
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: if you've ever been to a practice, and I was

667
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: lucky enough to go to pres of State practice for years,

668
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: and then Philadelphia Eagles practice for years, and then because

669
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: I've had multiple teams in my backyard with the Niners

670
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: and Raiders, go to NFL practice as a member of

671
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: the media for years. It's not a normal environment. Guys

672
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: are constantly getting screamed at at. You know, I wouldn't

673
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: say it's uncomfortable, because if you're in the football world,

674
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: it's normal. But the reality is, I I never mind

675
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: getting screamed at, and I was screamed at when I

676
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: worked in college football. I was yelled at when I

677
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL, and a lot of times it

678
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: was justified. Now we're all humans. When you're actually getting

679
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: yelled at for doing something wrong, you don't love it.

680
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: But certain people react better after the yelling ends. And

681
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: luckily for me, I actually like direct confrontation, and people

682
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: that I knew in football liked it too. But I've

683
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: also met people that did not we're we're all different.

684
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: But here's what I do know that Tom Brady came

685
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: from an environment where there was daily direct confrontation. He

686
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: was held to the standard, just like the practice squad

687
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: guy was held at the standard. In New England. It

688
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: was talked about for years. It was well documented that

689
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was treated no differently than every other player

690
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: in the New England Patriots locker room, in team meetings,

691
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: in practice situations Bill Belichick. His standard was held as

692
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: high as anybody, and he was liable to get screamed

693
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: at for checking down to the wrong guy, for throwing

694
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: a pick even though he didn't throw that many picks,

695
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: for whatever any sort of screw up he may have had,

696
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: just like the backup linebacker on special teams would get

697
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: yelled at for leaving the lane or missing a tackle,

698
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: and that is not normal. I think we've heard story

699
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: after story that a lot of times the best player

700
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: on the team or the best players on teams are

701
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: treated differently, and that's always a place that like New England,

702
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: really separated themselves from right. The best player not just

703
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: on the team but arguably in league history, was treated

704
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: like he was an undrafted free agent. Every year, even

705
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: after he had m v P s Lombardies Super m

706
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: v PS. And I think most of us, I know

707
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: just in when I worked in the league. Since I've

708
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: been out of the league, I respected that, and I

709
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: know Tim Duncan was always like that in San Antonio,

710
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: and it really separated those two franchises because the best

711
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: player in the franchise could be treated like a guy

712
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: trying to make the team and everyone falls in line

713
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: from there. And at the end of the day, Tom Brady,

714
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: it just turned forty three or whatever, could have gone

715
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: to a place kind of had a little swan song. Right,

716
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: he's got a fifty million dollar contract, go to a

717
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: place where obviously he wants to win and have success,

718
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: but go to a coach that he could chill a

719
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: little bit with and just go because you typically, right

720
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: when you break up with somebody, or you know, in

721
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: the coaching profession, when you fire a coach, usually go

722
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: the opposite. You then look for something or someone that

723
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: has the attributes opposite of what you just got rid of,

724
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: because that the reason either your personal relationship, while you

725
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: separated a coaching relationship, what you thought that person wasn't

726
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: doing well. Now Bruce Arians and Bill Belichick. Their personalities

727
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: are different. Like when you go to the combine, you'll

728
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: see Bruce Arians throwing them back. Bruce Arians wears kangle hats.

729
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians like swears. You know, in press conferences, Belichick

730
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything. He doesn't let anyone in. And really

731
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: even during game day, Belichick, despite you know, the camera

732
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: always being on him, always kind of looks the same.

733
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't really yell that often. You know. I would

734
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: say the way to describe Belichick on the sideline would

735
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: be probably one of the most even keel coaches in

736
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: sports history, not just in the NFL, but in all sports.

737
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: We're Arians, a little more up and down. Definitely a screamer,

738
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: but Arians like Belichick screams and everybody. It's one of

739
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: the things that once he became a head coach, and

740
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that it took him. And really

741
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer was the same kind of old school coaches.

742
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: They don't play politics, just like Belichick, though Belichick became

743
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: a head coach much younger. But these two guys were

744
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: just really candid and they just let you know what

745
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: they see. They don't hold anything back. They're too old

746
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have time to be passive aggressive.

747
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: When I think Bruce Arians, I do not think passive aggressive,

748
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: and same with Belichick, despite them being different about the

749
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: way they go about it. And a story that came

750
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: out this weekend was Bruce Arians was asked, do you

751
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: still hold or treat Tom Brady? You you cuss it

752
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, so, of course, and his example was Tom's

753
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: used to in walkthroughs throwing the football. We don't do

754
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: that here, and I've let him know. And then Tom

755
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: Brady on Twitter quoted a tweet with some laughing emojis.

756
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, the thing I

757
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: respect most about Tom Brady one is just his drive

758
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: and determination to be a great player is probably unmatched,

759
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, in maybe sports history. I mean, he's forty three,

760
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: his legacy is longer and more distinguished than every other

761
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: player in league history. He has nothing to play for,

762
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: but he's still driven and still trying to win. You know,

763
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: most human beings with hundreds of millions of dollars in

764
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: the bank would probably just start drinking some beer and

765
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: eating some ice cream. Tom still eating avocados and still

766
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: drinking smoothies and trying to win and him allowing Bruce

767
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: Arians to scream at him, which you know, could get

768
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: a little weird because I don't think any person right

769
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: now could coach Tom Brady in the NFL. They're behalf

770
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: the coach in the league that would just be intimidated

771
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: by Tom Brady. He's Tom Brady. So when he walks in,

772
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: he's going to be more famous than you. Now, there

773
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: are a handful of coaches that would seamlessly do it right.

774
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Andy Reid could handle it immediately, maybe Pete Carroll,

775
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: it would It would be a small list, though most

776
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: guys like Tom would have more equity and more juice

777
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: in the locker room than the coach. And you could

778
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: argue Tom Brady has more equity and jewice just when

779
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: a player season than Bruce Arians. But I think the

780
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: way Bruce Arians just coaches, it's actually perfect for Tom. Now,

781
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not talking schematically, and I've said over and over

782
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: the challenge schematically is it's there's gonna be a huge

783
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: learning curve and it might be a little more clanky

784
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: than we think early on, like it might not look

785
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: great early on. They did not have an off season,

786
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, definitely in the last handful of years, they

787
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: have been on polar opposites of the way they played.

788
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to this is gonna sound bad, but

789
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: Tom has been more of a dink and dunk type quarterback.

790
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: And I mean that it sounds negative, but I don't

791
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: mean it that way. He utilized his tight end, he

792
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: used as a slot receiver, and he throws the running

793
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: back a lot. When I think Bruce Arians, I think

794
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: a guy throwing go routes and throwing bombs. Now Tom

795
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: has done that before, and he had one of the

796
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: greatest seasons, if not the greatest season we've ever seen,

797
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: throwing bombs in two thousand seven. But it's two thousand

798
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty and the guy is forty three years old, so

799
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to mesh this scheme. But I know this.

800
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: Tom yearns for this type environment. Tom is that type

801
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: of guy that wants to get yelled at, that wants

802
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: to be pushed. And I think the best players, just

803
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: like the best employees, just like you know, the most

804
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: successful people, they want to be around people that kind

805
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: of make them uncomfortable. And because when you're being pushed

806
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: it is a little uncomfortable. I don't care who you are,

807
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: what you do. Getting yelled at is never easy, whether

808
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: you're a ten year old or whether you're Belichick's offensive

809
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: coordinator in the Super Bowl, Like it's uh, it's intense. Now.

810
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: I do think as you get older, you develop kind

811
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: of like a you know, like a coat, like we say,

812
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: thick skin. But I just think you're able to let

813
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: things just roll off your back. You don't think take

814
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: things as personally. You don't. You're not as emotionally up

815
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: and down every day about comments and words because at

816
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, I say this

817
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: all the time. Words don't mean anything to me. I

818
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: judge people off actions. So even if you're getting screamed at,

819
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times in football people are getting yelled at.

820
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean Bill Walsh was known for to do this.

821
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: He just yelled at the coaches so to play mental

822
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: games with the players because he wanted to yell at

823
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: the coaches to put them pressure on the players that

824
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: they didn't want their position coach to get yelled at,

825
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: then they would try harder. So he would often yell

826
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: at those guys even if they weren't wrong, to put

827
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: pressure on the players because he also wanted the players

828
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: to like him. It's kind of a genius psychological game.

829
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: Now Bruce Arians ain't playing that. Bruce is just screaming

830
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: at whoever. But I also think Bruce, for a guy

831
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: that hasn't won a Super Bowl, has a lot of

832
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: credibility in the NFL. He's a guy that you go

833
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: when you say Bruce Arians, you go, that's a big

834
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: time football coach. And listen with Tom have ended up there.

835
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: If just Pat sure member was the head coach at Tampa,

836
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: maybe because the offense was loaded, it was in Florida

837
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: on the East coast, his options were limited. The forty

838
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: Niners didn't want any part of them. Uh, it might

839
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: have been his only option. But I think it might

840
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: just be the perfect fit personality wise, And as we've seen,

841
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: not everyone can handle Bruce Arians. Look at the guys

842
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: that could most mainly been great players, Lock Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer,

843
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean Jamis Jamie say what you want about him.

844
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: I think he is pretty mentally tough. Is he good

845
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: enough at football? The jury still out clearly, But I

846
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: think when it comes to Tom, when it comes to Bruce,

847
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to this environment, this is the type

848
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: environment Brady thrives in where everyone could be could just

849
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: be destroyed at any moment, because that's New England and

850
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: that's Bruce Arians and the reality is that is not

851
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: every NFL team. So this team is loaded offensively, they

852
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: got a ton of weapons. But I think this type

853
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: environment is brady sweet spot. Okay, let's do a little

854
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff Instagram, my Instagram handle,

855
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: Shoot a follow, but most importantly, shoot a d M.

856
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: It's our equivalent of like radio collars. This is how

857
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: we interact with the people in UH in two thousand

858
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: twenty and on podcasts. So fire me a question and

859
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: you'll get it answered here. Also, I hammered this home.

860
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: You might think I'm crazy. Leave a review. It helps

861
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: with our advertisers, helps with our business. You know, we

862
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: gotta keep this thing rolling. It ain't free, Okay, Mike.

863
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the

864
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: formula for sixtained success in the NFL. Invest numerous resources

865
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: in the offensive line to protect your quarterback and also

866
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: strengthen your pass rush to neutralize the opposing quarterback. UH

867
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Philly, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Francisco all come to mind.

868
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: As a long suffering Jets fan who has watched multiple

869
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: GMS failed to address the trenches for the better part

870
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: of a decade, it has been refreshing to see. Joe

871
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: Douglas followed the example of the league's best franchises, Well,

872
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: where is he from? Learned in Baltimore and was in Philly?

873
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: My question is this, why do some general managers refuse

874
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: to invest high picks and or free agent cash on

875
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: their offensive lines and pass rush? Do they not value

876
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: the lines or as much as either gms? Is the

877
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: offensive line talent scarce? Are some gms just playing dumb?

878
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time and insight? Well, if we've learned anything,

879
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: and I'm thirty five years old in watching sports, and

880
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: I would imagine most people that are listening to this,

881
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, obviously football fans, but probably sports fans to

882
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: either baseball or basketball or you know, team sports, that

883
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: just because you're a GM in pro sports, especially football,

884
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: does not mean you know what you're doing. Might have mean,

885
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: might meant like you're in with the owner, the coach

886
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: like you. I'm not saying you don't know football, but

887
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: we have countless examples just because you become a GM

888
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL does not mean you can build a

889
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: team or understand value in the draft. Think like Gettleman

890
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: a couple years ago, I love Sa Kwan Barkley. Can't

891
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: take se Kwan Barkley number two overall. It doesn't make

892
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: any sense. Again, love Sa Kwan Barkley, can't take him

893
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: number two overall. But I'm not here to just bang

894
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: on Gettleman. My point is that a lot of general

895
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: managers and uh is Mike mccagnen. I mean, he's a

896
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: laughing stock. He was terrible and he's your classic just

897
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll never ever sniff another GM job again.

898
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: I also think when you said, is the offensive line

899
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: talent scarce? Yes, as the offensive football in college has become,

900
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, predominantly just spread offenses, it's hurt the end.

901
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: You know, the you know, ship flows uphill in football,

902
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: like you you the talent that come when it's not ship.

903
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: I mean the talent I just used that example of

904
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't start at the top and roll down. It

905
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: actually starts like the talent comes from college football. So

906
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: you need to get just the base level of talent

907
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: in the draft. And you think in recent memory, like

908
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman that have come in the league last

909
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: five years has not been on par with the defensive

910
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: lineman that have come in in the league. There's never

911
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: been a longer list of better interior pass rushers. Think

912
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: of some of the the outside pass rushers that have

913
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: come to the league. And up until this this last draft,

914
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: there haven't been very good offensive line drafts in the league.

915
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think some gms and listen, I'm

916
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: a sucker for this as a fan. It's easy to

917
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: get intoxicated by skill guys, whether it be wide receivers,

918
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: whether it be corners, whether it just be people on

919
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: the outside. And I'll never forget. We talked about this

920
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: all the time when I was in Philly and just

921
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: the people that I respect in the league, just watching

922
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: them in their press conferences. Now, building the team up

923
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: the middle, you know, your offensive line, your defensive line,

924
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: your quarterback. You know. I'm actually a big believer that

925
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: the linebacker, a three down linebacker has never been more

926
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: important because so many teams run zone schemes. You gotta

927
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: play sideline to sideline and then you have to cover. Now,

928
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: I think how many running backs in the league are

929
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: great pass catchers, so you have to cover out of

930
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: the backfield. So I just think the game changes, the

931
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: game adapts, and some people are quicker to adapt than others.

932
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Some people are slow, some people are hardheaded. Some people,

933
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, they're just they're not talented

934
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: enough to see the big picture. I think a lot

935
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: of humans in general are shortsighted. I think oftentimes two

936
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: people force needs and not take the best player. I

937
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: think free agency can be complicated because whenever you enter

938
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: free agency, you're paying a premium and you're not receiving

939
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: a premium because premium players don't hit free agency. So

940
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: you're paying, you know, a dollar thirty for a dollar

941
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: you're not You're just not getting the best players because

942
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: the best players get extended by their own team in

943
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. So when you're buying a guy in free agency,

944
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: a top guy, right quote unquote, top guy that you

945
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: gotta pay big money, it's hard for that guy usually

946
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: to live up to the contract. You know, there's a reason,

947
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Like the George Kittles, the Aaron Donald's, the clil Max,

948
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: like they get huge money and they just can stay

949
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: good players because they don't leave. Now obviously Cleil got traded,

950
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: but you know what, Fletcher Cox just go around all

951
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: the Tyrone Smith. You know, uh who am I missing?

952
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: You know? Mahomes just Shaun Watson, like really good players

953
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 1: in the NFL never leave. What's up man? From one

954
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: podcast or to another? What what did you do to

955
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: make your career first take off? And what sort of

956
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: tips would you advise to promote a podcast? People ask

957
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: me this all the time, and I don't have a

958
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: great answer because I've been in the podcast game now

959
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: since about two thousand and sixteen. Haberman and Middlecoff and

960
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: I've done this podcast now for about two years. But

961
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: my first, my kind of the Bay a podcast, but

962
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit of everything. But I mean

963
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: we talk a lot of forty Niners, a lot of Warriors,

964
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: and just other big ship whatever we're worried about. We

965
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: had a radio show, so when we started the podcast,

966
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: we had an audience of just a base. You know,

967
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: we didn't start at zero. We immediately the first podcast

968
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: we ever put out people listened or whatever the number

969
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: was five years ago, so they just immediately people are

970
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: gonna listen. And if you if you just start a

971
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: podcast from scratch and you're not like a celebrity or

972
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: an athlete. I don't know. I don't know the answer.

973
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: And then this podcast and Pardner with Coln Coward, so

974
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean my tips would be you

975
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: could Instagram market um marketing works, you know, Facebook market

976
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: I think social media marketing is huge now YouTube market Uh.

977
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: I would market on the platforms where younger people stay.

978
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: Obviously you're not gonna market like television marketing doesn't make

979
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: any sense to start out. It costs too much. The

980
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: cost of the entry point is too expensive, and you

981
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: wouldn'tet the bang for your buck. I mean, I've my

982
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: other podcast, I've instagram marketed and it helped us last

983
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: year and plan on doing it again before football season

984
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: these next like three weeks so and then obviously I

985
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: just promoted on social But I actually don't think just

986
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: tweeting out a link like I tweeted out my podcast

987
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 1: that doesn't get me any more people to listen. It's

988
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: it's actually no one goes to a podcast in my opinion,

989
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: as much like through Twitter anymore or even through Instagram.

990
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: But you know, you see stuff, you hear stuff. You

991
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: just got a kind of guerrilla market and just be

992
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: relentless and tweeting about it, linked In about it, Facebook

993
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: about it. You gotta do stuff like that because if

994
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: you're starting from zero, it's just it's gonna take time.

995
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't I'm not some great success

996
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: story because I already had a listener base from my

997
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: original podcast and this one I started from scratch. Well,

998
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: I had Collins podcast feed to start me off, So

999
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: it just I didn't start scratch with the Big Ten,

1000
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Impact twelve canceling. I had this thought, does the Rock

1001
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: use the XFL to try to recruit juniors and seniors

1002
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: to start a season in a bubble? Just invite NFL

1003
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: scouts to come into the bubble and see these guys

1004
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: with the college football possibly canceled networks could be looking

1005
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: for things to fill time. Not a terrible idea. I

1006
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: think the problem is this. I watched some of Nick

1007
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: Sabans press conference today. The SEC is playing football, the

1008
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: a SEC is playing football, and the Big twelve is

1009
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: playing football. Now that might not come to fruition. Maybe

1010
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: they get into a couple of games and can't keep going,

1011
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: but they're gonna do everything in their power to play

1012
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: football and because of the money the SEC, the Big

1013
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: Twelve in the a SEC has, they have the resource,

1014
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: especially the the SEC and the and the Big twelve.

1015
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: They have the resources to pull this off in terms

1016
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: of the testing, in terms of just anything they need

1017
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: they can get and that's a huge advantage for them. Now.

1018
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: I think the hard part of the rock. I don't

1019
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: hate the idea if those kids were to leave, like

1020
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Speaker 1: with the n C double A let him back, it

1021
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: just gets really complicated. I know what you're saying. But

1022
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: on Colin's Sunday Saturday podcast, the guy after Dana White

1023
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: was saying, Colin asked him about Saturday NFL games. He's

1024
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: like one of the big shots at Fox, and he said, well,

1025
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: if the three conferences, the only way we would move

1026
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: NFL games to Saturday would be if all college foot blended,

1027
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: then we would have to be very interested. But because

1028
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, the SEC, and the a CEC are

1029
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: gonna play, we're gonna have enough inventory to not do that.

1030
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: So I actually think that they'll be Okay, it's an

1031
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: ideal situation. No, is that you know a pretty good

1032
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: outside the box idea? How yes, I just think the

1033
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: execution of the ideas borderline impossible. This feels like a

1034
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of disrespect to Carson Wentz being raided behind quarterbacks

1035
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott and Kyler Murray. Is that warranted because

1036
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: of his injury history or unjustified because of what was

1037
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: able what he was able to do with no name

1038
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: in cafeteria workers from last year. I would say it

1039
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: just depends who you're listening to. When you get hurt

1040
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: a lot and you're a great player, and great would

1041
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: be strong. When you're a talented player, people are gonna

1042
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: dan you. And I think in Carson situation, when they

1043
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and the next year a playoff

1044
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: game without him, like listen, I mean, it's just that's tough. Now.

1045
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: I I'm with you. Last year, what he did with

1046
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: the cafeteria workers, a K practice squad guys was really impressive.

1047
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's a team in the league

1048
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: that would take Dak Prescott over Carson. But there's a

1049
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: legitimate concern right now Carson Wentz, like can he stay healthy?

1050
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Because right now I don't think you could say yes.

1051
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Last year was the first season was that since his

1052
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: rookie season did he play sixteen games as a rookie.

1053
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: He obviously hasn't played sixteen games the last three seasons.

1054
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: I guess the two seasons. What was last year? I

1055
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: can't even keep up with Carson Wentz's career. It's just

1056
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up his, uh, his game logs right now.

1057
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: So he's played four seasons. His rookie year, he played

1058
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: sixteen games. Last year, he played sixteen games. His second

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Speaker 1: year is when he got injured and it looked like

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Speaker 1: he was gonna win the m v P. He had

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00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: thirty three touchdowns, seven picks, and you know, towards a

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Speaker 1: c L in two thousand and eighteen. His stats actually

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: don't look terrible, but I think we all agree the

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Speaker 1: eye test it was weird. They were not playing well.

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: Foals came in, and then he beats the Bears last

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Speaker 1: year and seven. Like, his stats don't look bad, there

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Speaker 1: were games when I watched him last year I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was playing well. He flipped the switch the

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Speaker 1: last five or six games. Now, I think the last

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Speaker 1: four games were division opponents. I'm a big believer in

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I think he's got immense talent. I think

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Speaker 1: he has an elite coach. He needs to get on

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00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: the same page without Sean and de Shaun, assuming they'll

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Speaker 1: be healthy. That the first round rookie. You know, they

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00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: got Miles Sanders, who should be a good player. They

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Speaker 1: have a good offensive line. I guess they're missing Brandon

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Speaker 1: Brooks towards Achilleys, but they brought Jason Peters to try

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Speaker 1: to play guard. They have a good offensive line. Coach,

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Speaker 1: I'm bullish on the Eagles and Carson Wentz. I I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be pretty good. Um. Now, Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: you'd say this for him. He's got a Mari, he's

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00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: got galloping, he's got Ceedee Lamb, and he's got Zeke,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a good offensive line. Like he's he's

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00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: set up to have a pretty good, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty good year. Again in theory, quick question, why do

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Speaker 1: you think Kittle is the best tight end in football?

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00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: I'd argue Kelsey is significant better pass catcher. Runner also

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00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: worried that Kittle's bruising style leaves him more vulnerable to injuries.

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00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: I'll can see that Kittle is a better blocker, but

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Speaker 1: I still feel like I'd rather have Kelsey. Thoughts I

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Speaker 1: am someone biased as Chiefs fan, well Kittle set the

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Speaker 1: tight end record two years ago for running after the catch.

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Speaker 1: So when the ball is in Kittles fans, he's like

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Speaker 1: a four or five oh forty guy. Kittle can fly

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Speaker 1: and he has good hands. Now, I say Kelsey is

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Speaker 1: the best route runner, but Kittle is a pretty damn

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: good route runner. And Kittle is by far the best

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Speaker 1: blocker in the league. Now, Kelsey is a much more

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Speaker 1: accomplished receiver, but I think Kittle is every bit is talented. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'd say I'm with you. Kelsey is a more accomplished

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Speaker 1: and it's proven to be a better ride receiver production wise.

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Speaker 1: He's also played with my homes the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years when he has a two hundred catches. But I

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Speaker 1: think the total package, I would take Kittle, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not putting Kelsey, you know, far behind him. And there

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Speaker 1: are years that Kelsey has had that I who knows

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Speaker 1: if Kittles ever gonna have a hundred catch season. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason one guy. I mean, they're both all pros,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just think they're would I I know this,

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Speaker 1: the Niners would not trade Kittle straight up for Kelsey

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Speaker 1: because of what he means in the run game, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably fair to say the Chiefs would

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Speaker 1: not trade Kelsey's trade up for Kittle. Now, the difference

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Speaker 1: is Kittle's four years younger. But like you said, Kittle

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Speaker 1: to me, Kittle has a legit red flag. He already

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Speaker 1: got dinged up last year when you are that physical

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Speaker 1: of a player. He is so physical the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and then in the open field, Like I'll give

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Speaker 1: Kelsey one thing, like he'll go out of bound like

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Speaker 1: in a smart way. I'm not calling him softer or

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Speaker 1: anything like. He just he understands like he is valuable

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Speaker 1: to his team and he's bigger than the amount of corners.

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Speaker 1: He's not trying to run over everyone. Kittle and I've

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Speaker 1: talked to Kyle about this, Like Kittle has to play

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Speaker 1: a little more under control. But it's hard, right, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to like tame the beast. Part of what

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Speaker 1: makes Kittle Kittle and like Gronk all those years was

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Speaker 1: being that physical. But the one thing we saw with

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Speaker 1: Gronk it eventually led to so many collisions that that's

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Speaker 1: why they've desperately tried. They signed Jordan Read, they drafted

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Speaker 1: a tight end last year. They have dwelling on the rock.

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: They want other guys to do it like they And

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't worry about the wear and tear on Kelsey

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Speaker 1: beside like normal NFL wear and tear because he's not

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Speaker 1: taking just unneeded hits. Kittle takes a lot of unneeded

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Speaker 1: hits on top of having to block every team's defensive end.

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Speaker 1: So if you're playing the Chiefs, you're asking Kidle to

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Speaker 1: block help block Frank Clark on top of playing in

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Speaker 1: the open field. Kelsey at this point in time is

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Speaker 1: basically just a glorified wide receiver. Now he's an unsoppable

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: glorified wide receiver. But that's a good question. I Uh,

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Speaker 1: I always lean again, I'm I'm a little bit of

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01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: a sucker for physical football. So and you know Kittle

1144
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: came on the Haybroom MIDDLECOF podcast a year ago, So

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01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean with Kittle. Big fan of the pod.

1146
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: Love or you're able to bring different perspective, appreciate it.

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: Could you walk us through how you would personally build

1148
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: a team from scratch, start with quarterback, O line, D line.

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: Another area I had uh is if you could discuss

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Speaker 1: the ideal team system for a quarterback based on their strengths.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving taking time to read this answer. To me,

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01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: the key is the coach. You know, as a general manager,

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Speaker 1: as a team builder, you're just trying to find what

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: your what your coach is great at doing. And unless

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: you have Belichick, most coaches have a specific scene scheme

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01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: or if you're like Pete Carroll, philosophical belief on this

1157
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. So to me, having

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: just been around coach read and if you were Brett Veach,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear what they like to do. Right. They

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01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: put an emphasis on the line of scrimmage and they

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Speaker 1: love speed. Now, if I was for Kyle Shanahan, it

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Speaker 1: would be completely different. I would put an emphasis on

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage offensive defense, but my offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: or might be a little different than if I ran

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Speaker 1: like more of a gap scheme. So to me, it's

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Speaker 1: very based on who my coaches. If my coach is

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, then I do would do it differently than

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Speaker 1: if my coach was let's say Ron Rivera. Right, So

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Speaker 1: I it's hard to say what would be your scheme,

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Speaker 1: Like I need to know who my coaches. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Like in the end. This is not basketball or baseball.

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't get to run the show. Is the GM.

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01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: I am dependent and really I am a you know

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01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: almost like the coaches helper and the scouting staff is

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: there too, kind of guide the coaching staff and help them,

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, find players that the ultimately going to coach.

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Speaker 1: So to me, like I don't necessarily have a scheme

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Speaker 1: preference three four, four, three, whatever, It doesn't matter. Whoever

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Speaker 1: the best coaches and I hired him, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you want to do. We're in. I'm good and we'll

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01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: run that scheme. Now, if we have certain players already

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01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: on the team did fit a certain scheme, it's probably

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01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: smarter to build that scheme around those those players. Now,

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: if the team sucks, might as well just blow it

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01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: up and do whatever they want to do. Uh but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, to me, quarterback is the the only

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Speaker 1: thing that matters. At first. You have to find a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you're just wasting your time. I think it's pretty basically

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Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive lines. I am a big believer

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Speaker 1: in the middle linebacker position. You know, there are only

1191
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: so many Luke Keekley's in the last twenty years coming through,

1192
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: but I'm looking for a Virstil three down middle linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I'm also kind of a sucker for wide receivers despite

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01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, I know Collins called him window dressing and

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01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: the icing on the cake. Like I don't necessarily agree.

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Speaker 1: Like you give me Julio Jones, you give me Mike Evans,

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Speaker 1: you give me a Davante Adams. I want one of

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Speaker 1: those guys for my quarterback and a tight end. Like

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Speaker 1: I can find running backs and I can, and really

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01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: it's more about tackles. Like I can find guards and centers,

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01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: I need to find my tackles. I need to find

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Speaker 1: my pass rushers, whether it's interior or you know, on

1203
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: the edges, but I gotta find one on each I

1204
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: need a guy up the middle, and I need a

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Speaker 1: guy at the edge. Ideally add multiple pass rushers on

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Speaker 1: the edge, but let's just focus on to get in

1207
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: a sweet one on the edge, get a sweet one

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01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: up the middle, get me two tackles. I can find,

1209
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, designated pass rushers. I can find guards and centers.

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Speaker 1: I can supplement wide receivers, but I like having a

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Speaker 1: guy that I can just I got a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an NBA mindset like, just give the ball to

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, let him cook. Like we're throwing it to

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Speaker 1: Davante every play. I don't give a shit. If you

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Speaker 1: know I'm throwing it to Julio. We all know it's

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Speaker 1: double covers ass, We're gonna still kick your ass. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of the way I believe. Uh. And again, I

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01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: like linebackers, you know, depending on the scheme. I think

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: sometimes you can get by with just solid corners and

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: safety is like, you don't need to put a premium

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Speaker 1: on those. If you have an elite pass rush. If

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01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: I have two sweet edge rushers and a sweet defensive

1223
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: tackle pass rusher, I can get by with average dbs

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna kick the quarterback's ass because most teams

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: aren't gonna have four good offensive linemen, let alone five,

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01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: let alone three. Some might have two other five guys

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: be good. And then I want virtatle physical players because

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: I want to be going on special teams. I want

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: to be, you know, And I think Belichick is good

1230
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: at this placing a premium on covering kicks because then

1231
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: it's just field position. It's harder to go eighty than

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Speaker 1: it is consistently go six five right and talk field goals.

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Speaker 1: So I think athleticism, physicality um is what we'd play

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: a premium on for the backups, and toughness, which is

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Speaker 1: easy to say and it sounds pretty like, you know,

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: run to the mill answer, But I think a lot

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: of people say it and then a lot of people

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: don't live it. Who's your pick for offensive rookie of

1239
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: the year if you had to choose now, one of

1240
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: these rookie white out seems like the easy choice, But

1241
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: what do you think of the guy like a J Dillon?

1242
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: The one thing with a J. Dillon is the running

1243
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: backs for the Packers were really productive last year. So

1244
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: to me, it'll be hard for him to have the

1245
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: production relative to the unit. Like he's not gonna run

1246
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: for a thousand yards and ten touchdowns just because they're

1247
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna split carries between the guys. You'd say, Judy rug

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01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: c D. You say c D is gonna split a

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01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: bunch of catches between that group. Judy pretty big unknown

1250
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: on his quarterback rugs as of right now, is not

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: even with the starting unit kJ Hamdler's going off. You

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: would think it would be hard for the quarterbacks. Despite

1253
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm high on the three quarterbacks Herbert, it's not even

1254
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: starting to the team sucks. Borrow the team sucks. Could

1255
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: like McKay, beck didn't win it. You know, I know

1256
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna have any stats, but if he's a

1257
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: badass left tackle. I saw some some clips coming out

1258
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: of Jets camp that he was kicking as he'd be.

1259
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: He'd be my pick if you can, can you pick

1260
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: alignment because I do Beckton for the Jets, absolute freak

1261
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: show ass kicker, and I don't think the big heavies

1262
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: get enough of love, So I'm gonna go beck Then

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: let's let's end it on that. Appreciate everyone listening again,

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Speaker 1: leave a review. I'd greatly appreciate it. Keep the d

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