1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin you were listening to. Here's the thing. 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Edie Falco played Carmelo, soprano on the groundbreaking HBO show 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: about an Italian American mob family from New Jersey. You 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: know what I didn't understand Tony? What does she have 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: that I don't have? The late great James Gandolfini played 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: her husband, Tony. It wasn't Eadie's big break before The Sopranos. 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Eadie worked with Tom Fontana on the HBO series OZ, 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: but it's safe to say the role of Carmela made 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: her career. TV Guide named The Sopranos the best television 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: show in history. I didn't have any sense of the 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: gravity of what we were doing, and might might have 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: just been because I was dumb. I didn't realize what, 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, the the larger themes that play there. But 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I just enjoyed it. And it was still a novel 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: TV working on something that was good, that people enjoyed, 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: that seemed to be well received. Yeah, that was the 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: excitement of being on something good was still very new, 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: And I wonder when you did the show was it 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: fun and pleasant? Was it really tough? Was it work? Now? 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: It was fun? And pleasant because it was there was 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: a lighthearted atmosphere. The writing was funny. There was a 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: lot of really funny stuff, and it was a lot 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: of these sort of goombag guys that were just felt 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: like family to me and very easy to be with. 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Did you participate in the writing of the did you 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: just turn that all over? You never got involved? Not 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: at all. I was not at all interested. I had 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: so much trust in certainly David Chase, but in all 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: the staff that he carefully chosen, hand picked. I felt 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: like they knew what they were doing. They had much 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: better overview of what the story was about, as opposed 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: to what would Carmela do want here? You know, I 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: just thought it was a huge relief to know that 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: I could just let them do their thing and I 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: would do what I was hired to do. I felt 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: completely comfortable with that. Did they put things about you 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: and the characters? They got me? Tina Fey When I 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: did thirty Rock with someone who the moment you told 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: a story it was an embarrassing anecdote. It was in 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: the show. Absolutely. Jim said that all the times, like 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: I can't talk to anybody about anything. It's gonna be 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: in the next episode. But I didn't notice it so 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: much from my life. There was nothing going on in 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: my life that was all that interesting, so I didn't 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: see a lot of it in the scripts. But I 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: know they, like I guess, every show, to some extent, 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: they start writing for the actors that have been hired, like, um, 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: I eat his character right. A Tour that who played 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: his sister was supposed to be a very different thing. 50 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be more like the mom, sort 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: of cold and calculating and unkind. And because I A 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: Tour was doing it, it's sort of morphed into this 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: whole other, like Parvody, that phase that she went through 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: where she was sort of like an earth child. And 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm sure they were writing based on what 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: they perceived me to be, but I was I was 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: not entirely cognizant of myth. They hired you for that 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: part because you said I read an interview where you 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: talked about how you went and you just relaxed and said, Hey, 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: if this happens, it happens, which we all go through 61 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: when you sometimes sit there and go, I can't stress 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: about another interviews. What do you think they hired you 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: for I couldn't begin to tell you. I think, I 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: think probably because of that, because I was completely non stressed. 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: It was a script that had been bouncing around for 66 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: a while, but I was doing odds at the time, 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: and I was working a lot, and I kind of 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: was all caught up in that, and it came along 69 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and it was called Sopranos, and I thought, it's about 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: singers or something, and it's a you know, Italian American 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: American woman wife, and I thought that I never get 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: cast as that I know who's going to get cast 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: I figured it's you know, Annabella Shore or Marissa Tomay 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: or some of these women who had played parts that 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: sort of felt similar to that. There's no better place 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: to be and when you walk into an audition than 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: knowing you're not going to get it and not caring. 78 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I really just sort of enjoyed 79 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: myself and thought, it's just another audition and if you're 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: in a good head, you can never not learn something 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: from an audition. So I just went in and had fun. 82 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: And you inadvertently you present your best self when you're 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: doing that, and I guess, I don't know. I was relaxed, 84 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: and I enjoyed myself. So I guess that's what they 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know. And when you got the job, 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: was that something that was just floored you? Were you 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: ecstatic about getting the job? Well, remember so you just 88 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: just a pilot you get cast for, you know, So 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: at that point it was whatever. It was two weeks 90 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: of work, and it was a sum of money I 91 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: had never seen before, which now seems not all that shocking, 92 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: but back in the day it meant I could pay 93 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: off my student loan. And so I was able to 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: with that one check completely pay off my student loan. 95 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: It was huge. It was a huge occurrence. But again, 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: two weeks of work and then onto the next panic thing, 97 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, about what to do next. So soon after 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: the pilot was shot, I think it was a year 99 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: you told, so you waited a year to be told 100 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: this was going to move forward. And David Chase called 101 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: me and said, I just won't let you know this 102 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: has been picked up. This is after we shot the pilot. 103 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: And he said, well, nobody's gonna watch this thing, but 104 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm proud of what we made or whatever. And David 105 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: was also apparently he put his head in his hand 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: and said, oh, no, when he found out it was 107 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: picked up because I don't think he had intended to 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: have to tell more about these people. I think he 109 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: was trying to get a movie made and this was 110 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: almost like a spec script or something. I don't think 111 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: he had anticipated this going on like this, So he 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: was had his head in his hands. Jimmy's like, what 113 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: am I doing? And I'm like, I can pay my 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: student alone. And you know, here at his four thousand 115 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: years later, and it just goes to show you. You 116 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: wake up every day. I have no idea what anything 117 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: is going to turn into. So well, two things that 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: come to mind for me. One I probably told you 119 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: this before and when I would run into you. But 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: one was I never watched TV. I just didn't have time, 121 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: and I hit this period toward the last probably four seasons, 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: definitely maybe five. I don't want to say obsession, but 123 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: my fondness for you and your character. Remember I watched 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: him go, oh my god, I've got to be married 125 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: to that kind of Woman's good by me through thick 126 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: and thin and smart choices, and she's a good partner. 127 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Did you sense that when you were doing it? I 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: loved it for that reason, because it was everything that 129 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I was not, you know, I mean it was, you know, 130 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: I was a single woman living in New York, didn't 131 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: have kids, and here I was ensconced in this life 132 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: that I saw my grandparents live, you know, married with kids, 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: deeply entrenched in a community of people. Family gatherings were huge, 134 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, everything that and even with Jim feeling like 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: I was attached to a big man who would take 136 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: care of stuff. It was a tremendously um invigorating place 137 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: to inhabit while I was working. It was completely diametrically 138 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: opposed to what I lived when I left the set, 139 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: And for that reason, I absolutely what did you live 140 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: when you left the set? The life of a single 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: actress in Manhattan? You know, I had a relatively small apartment, 142 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: I had my dog, I had my dates. But it 143 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: was not you know, at all what a lot other 144 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: women my age, let's say, in the Midwest, are certainly 145 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: in my family back number of generations. And was your 146 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: boyfriend it was when I dated other guys on the side, Yes, 147 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: exactly was it was, and I was thrilled for it, 148 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: thrilled for it. I loved it. When you grew up, 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: what town do you grew up in I grew up 150 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: on the South Shore and Bay Shore and West Icelip 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: and then we moved to Northport when I was in 152 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: high school. And when you were growing up, what was 153 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: your relationship to Broadway? Uh, Television, film? Watching TV? How 154 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: did you absorb culture and media when you were a child. 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: A lot of TV, but you know, Brady Bunch and 156 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Partridge Family really all the same. Whatever time those shows 157 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: were on, we would sit around and watch them and 158 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Match Games seventy four, which is totally uh dating me, 159 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: but after school, Um, I was addicted to Match Games. Yeah, 160 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: me too, with what's his name Richard Dawson with that 161 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: crazy an antenna. He said, Lorie likes to blank blank 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: and I love that show me too, me too. So yes, 163 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: I watched a TV like all kids my age, but 164 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: it seemed like something far far away from my experience. 165 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: It was, you know, I mean as far as participating 166 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: in any way other than being an observer. So it's 167 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: very crazy. I don't know what happened that I am 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: in Broadway Theater? Were you jumping on the bus and 169 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: school trips to come to new works? Like when I 170 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: was a kid, same background trips to Broadway and watching 171 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: people do it live. Oh my god, how did they 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: do that? Yeah? Yeah, there were courage a couple of 173 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: those bus trips from from Long Island for sure. That 174 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: was thrilling. Like Sweeney Todd, was one of the first 175 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: things I saw where I thought, oh, I got it. 176 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I got it. You did 177 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: feel that way, Oh my god, that one show. How 178 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: old were you when you first had a sense that 179 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: you wanted to do that for a living? Seriously, do 180 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: it for a living? Well, I didn't know that I 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: could ever do it for a living. I think until 182 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: I was able to do it for a living, I 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: thought I would just do it as after my waitressing gig. 184 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: You know. The idea that I could support myself with 185 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: it was sort of prop ostris um. But my mom 186 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: was an actress. She did stuff at arena players in 187 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: Farmingdale and broad Hollow Theater and Huntingtons all around Long Island. 188 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: But she had a job, and she would do her 189 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: plays in the weekends and at night, and I sort 190 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: of thought of your job many different jobs. But she 191 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: was a She was a DJ W g L. I 192 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: was a station on Long Island. She was a copywriter, 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: and she did a million different things. She decided she 194 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: wanted a job and she would get it, but then 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: at night she'd do her plays. And I thought, that's 196 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: what you do when you want to be an actor. 197 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I've got an older brother, younger brother, and a younger sister, 198 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: four of us all told, and were any of them 199 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: also interested in the theater, not at all, even though 200 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: your mother was an actress and your father was a 201 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: patriot artist and he would musician for when he was younger, 202 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: but then he went on to do sculpture and painting. 203 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: And your parents got divorced in your hold, I have 204 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: no idea, because they got divorced and then they remarried 205 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: each other two other times, so it's a very complicated 206 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: childhood with that. They reed each other, yeah, and then 207 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: dovorris and remarried divorce. I don't even know what because 208 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: because I want to make a movie at it as 209 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: I want to play this. They got divorced. And when 210 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: they would get divorced, how long were they apart before 211 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: they were united? A matter of months, no longer it 212 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: was for the first time was a number of years, 213 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: And you know, they kind of the kids were pitted 214 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: against each other at the right against And then we 215 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: found out the parents were sort of hanging out with 216 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: each other again. It was, you know, horrifying for the 217 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: kids that they would sendthly get together again. Then they 218 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: would have a ceremony, we would witness their what it was, 219 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't know led to some psychological issues and I'm 220 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: working on as we speak, but get to that. And 221 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: none of your siblings had the bug, not at all, not, 222 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: I mean the opposite. And so did this become formal 223 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: for you only when you go to Purchase or had 224 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: you done plays before you went to school? Community theater 225 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: plays nothing to and school plays, you know, but nothing 226 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: very serious. Um. And then I went to Purchase first 227 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: as a liberal arts person, and uh, I saw my 228 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: some actor friends had gone into Purchase in the program, 229 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: and I thought I wanted to be there. And that 230 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: program had grown, yes, and has become this very estimable 231 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: program on the East Coast big time. So I auditioned 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: and went the next year as an acting student. And 233 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: did you graduate? Did you finish? I did? I did? 234 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: And then when you finished, what did you do? Well? 235 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: Remember the league auditions that whole thing. So we had 236 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: the league auditions, and from those auditions I got a 237 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: part in a movie where I had to be on 238 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: set the day after I graduated, and I thought, you know, 239 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: what's everybody talking about? This is so easy. I just 240 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of glided my way into this career. I didn't 241 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: do anything for five plus years after that, but did 242 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: a movie called Sweet Lorraine that was done up in 243 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: The Cats Skills with the guy's name is Steve Gohmer, 244 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: the director. Anyway, who else was in the movie with you? 245 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Evan Handler, John Carlo Esposito, Todd Graff, Maureen Stapleton, Almorado, 246 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: like a bunch of people here, Evan Handler? Who was 247 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: in I Hate Hamlet? Yes, the legendary perfession of hate. Yes, 248 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: that's right. And that was your first gig? Was that 249 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: from first gig? Yeah? How did that go? It was 250 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: did well, it was I couldn't believe it was on 251 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: a movie set, you know, it was a huge thing 252 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: and I just graduated from school and it was crazily exciting, 253 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: you know what the heck were we like eight weeks 254 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: up in the Cats Skills I think it was, and 255 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: kind of fell in love with all the boys in 256 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: the show. You know, it was being a sleep away camp. 257 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: And I remember when my agents said, I hope you're 258 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: sitting down. You booked that movie, and you're gonna get 259 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: paid more money than you have ever seen in your life. 260 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: They're going to pay you two thousand dollars a week, 261 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: which was more money than I had ever seen and 262 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: had been waitressing not yet, I uh no, except on 263 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Long Island. I hadn't really happ how to purchase you 264 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: got the movie. So it was after the movie the waitressing. Yes, 265 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: to try to keep up that weekends. The Rainbow Room 266 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: was a champagne, thinking it would be consistent. Yes, but 267 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: now where did you waitress? Oh? Gosh, a million places, 268 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: but formerly Joe's in the West Village just gone. When 269 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: you leave those places, you left because you got a job. Oftentimes, Yeah, 270 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. I mean one waitressing job I 271 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: was fired from because my had a bad attitude. I 272 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: was told he didn't know the half of it. But um, 273 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess I got a job or 274 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, not really, I mean, not terribly long. 275 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: I was miserably unhappy. I really tried so hard. I 276 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: was a good waitress in so far as how many 277 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: tables I could handle, but if I had to make 278 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: eye contact with anybody, I would fall apart. Was so hard. 279 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I just they were mean and people would, you know, 280 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: they take their order and they wouldn't look at me, 281 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: and they're be like, you know, just rude and here's 282 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: no connection, nothing, And I just it was awful. It 283 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: was awful. I just felt, you know, it was gross. 284 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: And I had, you know, Margarita juice all over my 285 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: clothes most of them. It was just disgusting. Why is 286 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: any waiter hate being a waiter? I mean, and for 287 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: the people who like it, God bless him, But um, 288 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: I was not one of them. What was the job 289 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: for you that did that? Like? When did you get 290 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: a job and then you never went back again? You 291 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: only made a living as an actress. I was waitressing 292 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: at a place called Canyon Road on seventy seven and 293 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: first it was the last waitressing job I had. I 294 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: worked there with Paul Scholzy, my friend who has actually 295 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: been on a bunch of my shows with me, my 296 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: great actor friend, and he was bartending and I went 297 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: off to do a thing called cost of Living, a 298 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: little budget independent thing, and I left and I was 299 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: about to come back to the restaurant job, and I 300 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: just had one of those sort of grace moments where 301 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I so, no, I'm not going to come back. I 302 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: don't know how this is going to work, but I'm 303 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: not gonna waitress anymore. I really was one. It was 304 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: a total leap of faith. I just I'm gonna live 305 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: in a washing machine box, which set the box preferable 306 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: to taking another order at that restaurant. So we lovely restaurant, 307 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: but just I couldn't do it anymore. Um So yeah, 308 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: and at that I don't know, I guess um oz 309 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: happened shortly after maybe, So what was the experience like 310 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: working with fontana? Um? You know Tom Right, I love him. 311 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: He was one of those angel guys, you know. Because 312 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: I had done a movie called Laws of Gravity with 313 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of people from Purchase and it got some 314 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: attention and played the sort of sundance and the the 315 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: festival circuit. Tom saw it and decided he wanted to 316 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: use me for stuff, and so he put me in 317 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: UM series called Firehouse about e MT workers and fire 318 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: people or whatever. Dean Winters was my husband in that show, 319 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: and um then he cast me in Homicide or maybe 320 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: it was the other way around. He just we kept 321 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: putting me and stuff when I wasn't really working much. 322 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: And then he said, I'm doing the series about a prison. 323 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: I have two parts. You can play the nun or 324 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: you can play the correction officer. Which part do you 325 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: want to play? So I'll be the correction officer. And 326 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: that was, you know, and he just decided he was 327 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: going to take care of me. And he did, and 328 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: he did for many years and I was in his troop. Yeah, 329 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: and I was just digital of yeah, gosh, you know, 330 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea actually, come to think of it, 331 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: more than a couple, yeah, maybe three? Or did you 332 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: rape anybody? Didn't you rape? Didn't you like sexual abuse people? 333 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: You know what? I would think i'd remember that, But 334 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: you didn't you weren't you? Weren't you weren't you weren't 335 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: a bad person. It was not a bad person. I 336 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: was like, there's somebody else's job. Maybe there was another 337 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: woman who was who was a matron there in the cup. 338 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I always remember the great actress who I worked with, 339 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: one Shirley Stole. Do you remember Shirley Stole? Shirley Stoller, 340 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: who was an opera singer, she was a very large woman. 341 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: She played the prison matron on like One Life to Live. 342 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: She was on the step and she'd been like getting 343 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: that cell, sayin this cagnet getting a sound now, say, 344 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: but you were not from the Shirley Stolar school of 345 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: prison matron. I was not. I was ineffectual, I think 346 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: because I was, I was sort of quiet and I 347 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: wasn't mean enough, and I was I didn't I think 348 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: there was no work to be had, and like totally, 349 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: it was just so crazy grateful for the work. And 350 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: I remember it was before cellphones. I remember Terry Kinney 351 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: was on the show with me, and he was the 352 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: first person I ever knew who had his own phone. 353 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I just thought he was the coolest, coolest thing going. Yeah, yeah, 354 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was fun, It was really really fun, 355 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and it was great to have a steady gig. And 356 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: after that, what did you do? How long between that 357 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: and the Sopranos? Not long? I was doing you know, 358 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I was doing uh that that was during Sopranos. I 359 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: think that was during two seasons of Sopranos. But I 360 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: was doing odds and then I was doing Sideman play 361 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: that I did for a very long time, and I 362 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: was doing odds at night and Sideman during the day, 363 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: and then sopranos came in, and so I was doing 364 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: There was a period of time where I was doing 365 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: sort of all three of them, and I thought because 366 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: they were so great, and I couldn't say no to anything. 367 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: But I was very unhappy because I was exhausted and 368 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: sick most of the time, screaming my voice out, and 369 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: it was an embarrassment of riches. But I might have 370 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: done better to say no to one of them. But 371 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: be that as it may, it was at a time 372 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: when I couldn't imagine not doing any of those jobs. 373 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: After all, before Donny acrylic nails for Carmela, Edie Falcon 374 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: made money in some memorable ways. She dressed up as 375 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Cookie Monster and beckoned people onto the dance floorid weddings. 376 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: Take a listen to other actresses like Kathleen Turner. In 377 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: our archives, Kathleen told me what she thought about working 378 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: in television. I just hated the commitment. I hated the 379 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: idea of being that tied down. I thought, if I 380 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: had to do the same character year after year, I 381 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: would definitely slip my throat To hear more from Kathleen 382 00:18:34,720 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: Turner go to Here's the Thing dot org. M my 383 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: guest today. Edie Falco plays Jackie Peyton, an emergency room nurse, 384 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: mother and an addict on Showtimes. Nurse Jackie all Right, 385 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: you know what I would have done in the past, lied, Sweetie. 386 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: I have a sponsor, I am going to meetings. I 387 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: am okay, and I'm going to keep on being okay 388 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: because i have too much to lose. Long before she 389 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: played a nurse, Edie Falco was a patient during her 390 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: tenure at the Sopranos. She found a lump in her breast, 391 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: got a biopsy, and then the news they said, yeah, no, 392 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: there's you have cancer. And I think when those when 393 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: someone said those words to me, like every cell in 394 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: your body changes shape for a second, and you will 395 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: never really be the same. You know, they're they're certainly 396 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: growing up on Long Island or maybe anybody in our 397 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: generation growing up anywhere when you heard those words, the 398 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: next thing you were doing was buying an outfit for 399 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the funeral. He walks out of a doctor. He's like, 400 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: oh god, oh god, you He's like, can they tell 401 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: me it's a brain tumor? And he's walking on the 402 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: treet I'm gonna die. Oh god, you just stay aside 403 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: his death. That was it though. That was reality, So 404 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's not anymore, thank god. But yeah, it 405 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: was terrified. Were without getting into any detail the treatment 406 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: and such. Was it something that was prolonged? Did it 407 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: interfere with the show? Nobody knew about it except for 408 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: Eileen Landrus, the producer of the show. I had to 409 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: tell her because they were trying to schedule around my 410 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: chemo because it did, you know, knocks you out. So 411 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: it came over how long, you know what. It's so 412 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: funny about traumatic things. I remember them weirdly. The whole 413 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: thing took I guess about a year between surgery, chemo, 414 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: and radiation. I think it took about a year. I 415 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: think that's right. Year. Yeah, and it affected the schedule 416 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: the show. That show was how many months out of 417 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: the year it varied, you know, it went from it 418 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: started forward, that's right. It started as like eight days 419 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: an episode. By the end it was like thirty days. 420 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: And Peo would always say that to me, how does 421 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: that sopranos workday? Said that, no one. Yeah, I ended 422 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: up getting paid like five bucks an hour towards the end, 423 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: but during that time no nobody knew about it. They 424 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: showed I didn't. You're very privates. I'm very privates. You 425 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: are very private. Also, I don't do private about your 426 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: private I don't do well when people are like, that's 427 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: how you feeling, you know, I don't. I was. The 428 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: truth is we were working such crazy hours that everybody 429 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: on set looked worse than I did. They were just exhausted. 430 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Nobody was sleeping. I looked like I get to lie down, 431 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: taking care of me and wiping my far. Is there 432 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: a part of you that that that from your childhood 433 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: or something, because you seem very tough. Yeah, and you 434 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: don't want anybody to you're You're like, you don't want 435 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of sympathy, not good with you don't need 436 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: a lot of attention. You tend to play into it, 437 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're like, yeah, you're right, I don't really 438 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: feel so good if people don't know anything's wrong, I 439 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: can behave as if things are okay. And did you 440 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: think it was important? Do you feel it was a 441 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: part of view your recovery and your overview of health? 442 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Not defeed in twit is not for everybody. People go 443 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: through this stuff very differently. But this is what worked 444 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: for me, to keep it private and only my closest 445 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: friends knew. And so when I went to work, I 446 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: didn't people who were like are doing and going about 447 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: their business. And that is absolutely what worked for me. 448 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: Kept me going, kept me busy, and I I don't 449 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: know I did if I needed to be taken care 450 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: of a little better, I saw to it that I was. 451 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: You know, I would go home earlier. Whatever I was 452 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: taking care of myself, I was taking care of you 453 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: at the time. Friends, my dear friends were married. No, 454 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: you've never been married, never been married, having close a 455 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: couple of times. And I did you get rid of 456 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: all those men in your life who were in love 457 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: with you because they wanted to hold the door for 458 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: you to get your hands off me? Dude, give me 459 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: my bag, man, I can carry it back. What did 460 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I tell you about opening that door? Thing? Not much? 461 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: I hate that? Oh no, what can I see the 462 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: key to getting like? You were my little brother? And 463 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: then I'm like, exactly that yourself? What do you think 464 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: I am? What you that that lemon is not gonna 465 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: walk itself over? Bring it over here? You wanted a 466 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: long island you wanted a guy from back home, but 467 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: for you, family becomes a chapter. If you don't mind 468 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: my asking how a bunch of relationships started. We're serious, 469 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of talk of kids in marriage, 470 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: and then the relationship would fall apart for various reasons, 471 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: and the kid things started to grow its own kind 472 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: of roots in me. Cancer happens, I realize I'm not 473 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: going to die, I kind of come out of the 474 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: stupor and realize I want kids, and I don't think 475 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to find the right man first, and 476 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: then I just this feels more prescient. The kid thing 477 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: also not to mention that, and I hear about this 478 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: all the time about women Dayton, and very early on, 479 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: they want to know, is this the guy who's going 480 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: to give me my family that I want. It seemed 481 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: like a preposterous way to go about things. So I 482 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: began the adoption process with my kids on my own 483 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: once I realized that I was healthy, and that's how 484 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: my family started. I adopted my son and then three 485 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: years later I adopted my daughter. So it was relatively smooth. 486 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it was completely smooth compared to stories I've heard. 487 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: Was it a difficult thing, did you say, Because as 488 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: a woman, as you said, had dated men and contemplated 489 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: that kind of traditional family and those relationships ended for 490 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason. And God knows you're successful. I mean, you're 491 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: one of the most successful actresses in the history of television. 492 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you had no shortage of callers. I 493 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: was but when you but I'm not trying to pry, 494 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: but I'm saying it was like, at what point do 495 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: you sit there and go, Okay, I'm not going to 496 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: wait for that. That was the boom. I'm going to 497 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: go make this thing happen on my own, wen do 498 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: it for me. When I think it wasn't tough. Like 499 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: any decision, You're very self reliant. Any any decision I make, 500 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: I I it means it's gone through whatever it's had 501 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: to go through to kind of come to the you know, 502 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: the the the unequivocal answer, which was get the paper 503 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: and start filling them out. That's what you gotta do. 504 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: And once I made the decision, it just kind of 505 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing unraveled on its own. And another thing 506 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: also was as a child of divorce, and as there 507 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: are so few successful marriages I can count on one hand, 508 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, in my life what I would consider a 509 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: successful marriage. Uh. You know, as I was watching friends 510 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: go through divorce and the sharing of the kids, and 511 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: the fights in front of the kids, and the holidays 512 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: split between the family, it just I desperately didn't want 513 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: to give that to my kids. I wanted to know. 514 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: And now that you've raised a family this far, yes, 515 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: ten and six, ten and seven, ten and seven, are 516 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: you at this point? I mean maybe it's just being glad, 517 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: but you at this point and now you were like, 518 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, who needs a man? One? Quite the opposite. Actually, 519 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: now I realized I've got this whole thing up and running. 520 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: My kids are secure in my love for them, in 521 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: family that I've created, which is very unconventional, and that's good. 522 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: And now I'm like I can sit back and like, 523 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: all right, so where and where am I? Now? What 524 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: do I What am I about? And what do I need? 525 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: So I'm you know, back in this other chapter again. 526 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: But it's not about the kids. It's not about trying 527 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: to create a family. Whatever it turns into, it turns into. 528 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: But what I have right now is really quite workable. 529 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. And yes it's complicated. It's not 530 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: going to hold the door open for you. I've gotten 531 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: much better many many years of therapy, and I have 532 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: the Italian anti Oakley antok from I am. I can't 533 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: help it. It's the way I was raised, very self reliant, 534 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: but it has been you know, the death of me 535 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: at times. Um. Hello, Well, I'm I'm trying to think 536 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: how to say this. I'm going to write a book. 537 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm writing a memoir that's coming out in a year. 538 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: And in the book, I've got some interesting things I 539 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: talked about, and one of which was I sell a 540 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: bring to my thirtie anniversary. In February this year, I 541 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: went out to Los Angeles, which was the scene of 542 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: the crime from that right, Uh, and can we talk 543 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: about that? How are you on the record about that? 544 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I was wondering what that, how that affected your career. Well, 545 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: I got sober twenty three years ago, and there was 546 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: really not much of anything going on at the time. 547 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: And I'm grateful for that also because you know the 548 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: access people have to your life nowadays. Um, I'm just 549 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: glad that none of that was going on. Nobody was 550 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: interested back when I was a mess. Um, so I 551 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: was able to get kind of squared with a lot 552 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: of that stuff before you stepped into Yeah, before anything 553 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: big was happening in my life, I was very very 554 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: grateful for the timing of all that. When you walk 555 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: into a room in a a there's not a lot 556 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: of people who have twenty five years. Yeah, that's right. 557 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: People make it that far. Yeah, they might be when 558 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: they do the hand raising thing. I'm in a room 559 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: the other day in l A where there was three 560 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: people and they might have been like six or eight 561 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: of them that had over twenty years. Yeah, time or right, 562 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: where the time is right, it's still a part of 563 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: your left. I go on my anniversary which was the 564 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: last week, and just to announce it and h now 565 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a Buddhist, which is where what I 566 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: what I do now? Yeah, I spend a great deal 567 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: time at the Buddhist Center in New York, where has 568 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: given my life a tremendous amount of when because you 569 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: have the first person I know who has supplanted sobriety 570 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: interesting twelve steps sobriety with Buddhism or Buddhist a lot 571 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: of crossovers. I see a lot of people that I 572 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: know from both places so I see, yeah, uh, like 573 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: twenty something years ago, I inadvertently ran into a meditation 574 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: class and it was this teacher and then I kind 575 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: of wandered away, and then I kind of went back 576 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: and it was the same teacher. I thought I was 577 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: going to some other thing. This happened a number of times, 578 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: and then a good five or six years ago I 579 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: went back again, and here's the same darned teacher in 580 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: a different place. And I've been going consistently for I 581 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: don't know, four or five years as much as I can. 582 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: It feeds me and huge way. So what do you 583 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: get out of it? Well, it's not just sort of 584 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: mumbo jumbo spiritual kind of it's also it's like a 585 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: science of the mind really that was established years ago. 586 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: And so they've got they've got history on their side. 587 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: And I see the people who spend a good deal 588 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: of time there, and the teacher there. They have what 589 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: I want, you know, the stick with the winners thing 590 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: that I love a but you know, there there are 591 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a lot of cuckoos in there, you know, and I 592 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: love them because I understand them. But to be in 593 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: a place where there's somebody who really has something that 594 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: I want. It's very meaningful to me. It becomes harder 595 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: and harder to find that. That's huge and and and 596 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: for you, what I'm wondering, what did it give you? 597 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: What did it help you deal with? Or manager? Well, 598 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: single parenting is not for this faint of heart. Uh, 599 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: shall I say? You know, you live for forty years 600 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: where you're the center of your universe. You know, when 601 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: you want to get a massage, you go get one, 602 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: and as you know that, kids enter the picture and 603 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: it just turns your whole life. I mean, there's nothing 604 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: recognizable about it. And it was real a crash course 605 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: in in uh, not being the center of my universe 606 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: anymore so. And I didn't always handle it great. Spent 607 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: a fair amount of time just not being okay with 608 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: the fact that I couldn't control my environment. So a 609 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: lot of it is about remaining calm, about being patient, 610 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: about remembering what's important about patients is I think the 611 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: biggest part of it. I am. I have. I have 612 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: a short temper that people may not believe, but you know, 613 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: in in my human environment, yeah, it's not pretty. So 614 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: it has helped me immeasurably with that. Describe your son 615 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: cute blonde. He's uh spectacularly amazing kid, and he's been 616 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: through a lot, and uh he has some learning stuff 617 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: and uh also a d D D H D and 618 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: all those acronyms, um, which you know, single parenting under 619 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: the best of circumstances is difficult. But when you have 620 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: a kid who's bouncing off the wall calls, and then 621 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: a kid who's not who's getting beat up by the 622 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: kid who's bounce off the wall, it's complicated and it's difficult. Yeah, 623 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: she's the sort of the survivor, yes, yes, so, but 624 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: you know she's a tough kid. She can take care 625 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: of herself. Over here. Let's play sword fights. Yeah no, no, 626 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: you're the sword. And he's constantly beaten the crap at 627 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: ever and you know she's learned to, uh, she's learned 628 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: to kind of make the make the best of it. 629 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: But the fact that she has to what is a 630 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: drag so um. But you know, we all had our 631 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: stuff growing up in the middle child and you know, 632 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: everybody we all have some order in which we were 633 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: born and the difficulties we had and being the first 634 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: one or the last one or whatever. And my kids 635 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: challenges are not that unusual. But you know, I say 636 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: that my daughter, my older daughter, I said to her recently. 637 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: I said to her, you know, to me, a god 638 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: or the presence of some kind of force like that 639 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: in your life manifests itself in the instincts that you have. 640 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: And I said to her, the minute you get into 641 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: trouble in this life, in my experience, is when you 642 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: stopped listening to your instincts. That's all we can do 643 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: is try to get them to listen to that voice 644 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: in them, because in the end, they're gonna do what 645 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. We can't make them do what we 646 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: want to do. It's painful. It's shocking too. I mean, 647 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: especially in this industry, we have so many people running around, 648 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, telling you how great you are, and you know, 649 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: making sure that every your every need is taken care of. 650 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: And then you go home and your kids just couldn't 651 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: care less what you're asking. But they do. But I 652 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: think they think everybody's parents have some kind of life 653 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: like this. I don't know, they exceedingly unimpressed, but you know, 654 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: just to hang up the damn coat, you know what 655 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean. It just couldn't possibly care less the way 656 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: I want the how's the look? And you know, all 657 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: that stuff that used to be so important that I'm 658 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: learning slowly to let go of. Do you see yourself 659 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: doing this for the rest of your life. I have 660 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: no idea. I don't there's nothing else you want to do. 661 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I like animals. I always have this fantasy of working 662 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: with animals. I don't know what. There's certainly nothing that 663 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: could support the homes that I have, so you know, 664 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: probably in I do love the acting part, it's all 665 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: the stuff around it that that is difficult. I really 666 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I've never known what was going to happen 667 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: next is something comes along catches my eye. It's almost like, oh, look, 668 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: something glittering happened, kind of like that Sopranos ended. And 669 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: I just started reading scripts and nothing appealed to me, 670 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: and I thought, I don't know, maybe I'm done, and uh, 671 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: I think I just wasn't ready or maybe there really 672 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: wasn't anything good. And then I read that one at 673 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: the time, it was Nurse Mona. It was written by 674 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: Evan Dunsky, and I read it and it was very dark, 675 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: but there was something about the character I liked, and 676 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: I kind of came to life that way I was ready, 677 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: the script changed and morphed into something that felt better 678 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: to me, and and that's how it happened. I but 679 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: I had similar feelings, like maybe I did what I 680 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: wanted to do with all this stuff. And I don't know. 681 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no idea. I really don't know 682 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: what the heck is going to happen next? And in 683 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: the how many seasons this just finished? What? Season seven? Yeah? 684 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: Go figure? You know you sign up, You're like be 685 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years. You have no idea? Crazy? And 686 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: then during that seven years and you had the break 687 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: when you weren't working, did you always take off your 688 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: shot some stuff for you? Yeah. I did a bunch 689 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: of plays and I did I did, Yeah, I did 690 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: want to Theater Club, I did one uh, the Ben 691 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Stiller and How to Blue Leaves. I did other things 692 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: which escaped men. Not if I not if I don't 693 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: have to, it's different. You have kids in school, it's 694 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: a different thing. What's the most successful thing you've done professionally? 695 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: What do you think the most other than the obvious one? 696 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: What were the most successful? Is it the obvious one? Um? 697 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: Not necessarily? Yeah, I mean for me, the greatest success 698 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: I've had professionally. Is the environment that we created at 699 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: Nurse Jackie the working environment. Yeah, well, that we assume 700 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: at a certain level of expert ease that the people 701 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna hire for your A, D. S and your 702 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: camera people stuff, you know that they're all they've been 703 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: working a long time and they're good at what they do. 704 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: More important to us was that they were manageable and 705 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: kind after sixteen hours or whatever. So we made a 706 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: lot of phone calls to people who have been on 707 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: sets with them after a long day to find out 708 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: what they would be like, because, uh, you know, having 709 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: been around other environments, I just feel like I've just 710 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: gotten too old for craziness. That's interesting that Nurse Jackie, 711 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: which you're still doing. That's that's still on the air. 712 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: That is these epic days. It's long days. Not terrible. Actually, 713 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: I've had way more epic days. But even a normal 714 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: day of twelve or thirteen hours is still a long 715 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: day to an average individual. It's a lot of days 716 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: to spend doing this one thing. But regardless of the 717 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: length of the days, you just want to be hanging 718 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: with people who are nice. So and we we got, yeah, 719 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: we got we really did a great job with Nurse Jackie. 720 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: I love the people. They were nice and spectful. And 721 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: I read somewhere that you said, you're like Nurse Jackie 722 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: in some ways and not at all like her in 723 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: other ways. Well, what are the ways that you are? 724 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: What are the ways that you are like Nurse Jackie? Oh, 725 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't recall saying that, but that 726 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I didn't the first supposed here? What are 727 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: the ways? I think she's diligent about her job. I 728 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: think she takes it seriously. It's important to her to 729 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: be good at it. She's professional, professional, but also competent. 730 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: You know, she knows that she did very few situations 731 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: she can't handle. I think that's important to her, and 732 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: I think it's important to me too. I don't know. 733 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: Other than that we veer. I kind of think it's 734 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: cool that she doesn't really give a ship the way 735 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: she's perceived. She gets what she needs done, she gets 736 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: done without worrying about the ramifications who she might have heard. 737 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I spend far too much time thinking about 738 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: that stuff. It has led me to not good places 739 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: where so I have I often thought it would be 740 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: fun to be more like her in that way? Did 741 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: you become like any of your characters? No? Never, not 742 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: really really took off the nails and the hair, or 743 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: I took off the scrubs and then was gone. I 744 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, maybe 745 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: other people would tell me otherwise. But you know, there's 746 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: a human nous to Eadie Falco's characters, no matter how 747 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: tough their exterior appears. Her women are vulnerable and fallible, 748 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: and we can't get enough of them. This is the 749 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: seventh and final season for Showtime's Nurse Jackie. After that, 750 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: we'll eagerly await to see who Edie Falco inhabits next. 751 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: She told me she's hoping for a new play to 752 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: come her way. This is Alec Baldwin you're listening to. 753 00:37:48,120 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Here's the Thing two