1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's thankful for an excuse 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: to get away from their families. Happy post Thanksgiving everyone 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: in America and across the world. Happy Friday. It's around 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. We are scattered across the South Land and 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: surrounding territories. Uh, the day after, the morning after Thanksgiving, 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Big day, Big sports Day. I've already said it, but 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: in case you didn't hear, and it's gonna even sting 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: more after the fact. All these English listeners that are 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: very confident about how the soccer match is gonna go today. Wow, 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment. By the time you hear this, 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: the disappointment will still be soaking in from a USA 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: upset for the ages um. So that's coming up later today. 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: We got a full gate. We have a full slate 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: of Sunday games, but Mark greg starting now, we're gonna 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: go through the three Thanksgiving contests. And it was some 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: fun football. This is one of the best football days 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: of the year. We didn't have to do a show, 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: which was nice. You can just watch the football. But 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: I say we got one great game one uh at night, 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: extremely entertaining game. I don't it was a great game, 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: but it was fun, and then you know, the middle 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: game at least was interesting. We had to come back. 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, that was as good as it was going 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: to get. Well, what a what a different Thanksgiving slate 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: than the last um to twenty six before it, because 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: typically that early Lions game you got the families starting 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: to get together, random relatives and it operates as a 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: total energy stuck inside your house. Um, this was the 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: complete opposite. And it was like sitting there in the 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: earliest game of the day and it is a fantastic 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: matchup between the Bills, and like, I just wish it 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: had ended differently a kind of Um, I know that 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: you think that I'm not really like on the Lions 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: team of a t L thing, but I needed them 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: to come to me, and I think yesterday they did 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: and I got pulled in emotionally. And now it's like, 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: of course, now that you get pulled in emotionally, they 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: just cut your throat. So it's your fault, that's what 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: you're saying. Well, you need them to come into you. 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: So they needed to win three straight and then have 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: a lead over like a Super Bowl favorite. And then 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: Mark was like, okay, maybe my bar is high. He's 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: also a Titans fan. Now, so the bar is very 44 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: high in terms of what you need to do to 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: earn his loyalty. Uh these days, yeah, I think, especially 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: where we are on the West coast. The first game 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: kicks off at nine thirty perfect, so you really I 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: was one of the people that host Thanksgiving, my wife 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and I, so there's a lot of stuff to do. 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: But the nine thirty kickoff beautiful. You get you have 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: stuff that you're doing, but you're watching the game, you know, 52 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: pretty much unbothered. Then the middle game comes and things 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: get a little messy time wise, with people showing up, 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: more things you have to do. So that was the 55 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: one game where I wasn't as locked in, and that's 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: fine because that was the least interesting game than the 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: late game comes post dinner, You settle in, you enjoy 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: the enjoy it all. So it was it was great. 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: It was American, It was John Madden. I really like 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: that the way that the NFL um played up the 61 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Madden side of things, because he really is Americana and 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: and and he is football and he is Thanksgiving. So 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: well well done by the NFL. Shall we get into 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: the games, boys, please? All right? Justin Graver speaking of 65 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: John Madden. Before we get into Lions Bills, let's hear 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: from the legend boom, there's no place to go. Some 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: people say that that stick. He says, boom. That's that's 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: why I'm two good. Boom you hit. I mean that's 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: boom boom, boom boom. He's right through there. That's the 70 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: way football should be run. Second and goal from the five, 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Josh and shotgun. Two receivers right side to to the left. 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: The snap Josh wants to throw fires left side, caught touchdown, 73 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: step On Dicks, touchdown, Buffalo. They moved it all the 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: way down the field and the Bills regained the lead 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: with two minutes forty seconds lap. Yes, Josh Allen, Steph Diggs, 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: you know that was a big play in the game, obviously, um. 77 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: But the bigger play, the bigger digs allan connection for 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: me and in terms of what it meant in the 79 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: game was after the Lions, and we're gonna get into 80 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: it how the Lions handled that final possession, settled for 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: the long field goal, and then Josh Allen and I know, 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: and Romo was all over this. Boys. He was saying 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: that elbow is still a thing. There's certain throws that 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: are gonna ding him, and it's something he's struggling with. 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: He put that thing on a line forty five yards 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: down the field to Diggs to set up Tyler Bass's 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: forty five yard field goal two seconds to play. It 88 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: was the difference in the Bill's win over the Lions 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving from Ford Field. Greggy, let's start with the 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: Bill's side of it, because again, I think this is 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: the this is the stuff of champions. This is a 92 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: team that rolled through the league, hit a lot of turbulence, 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and now, even though it's not as easy as it was, 94 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: you see that in them, that DNA of the great 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: teams that rise up when necessary, and they did it 96 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: again in this game. Yeah, the two drives back to back. Yes, 97 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: it ended with the Digs touchdown to take the lead 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: with two forty to go. But I think of that 99 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: drive as an example of how Alan's evolved. They were 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: so patient on that drive they gave. You know, the 101 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Lions were backing up. The lines are not a great defense. 102 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: They forced three stops in a row for really, because 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: they had the interception to start the second half, and 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: then three punts in a row and then Alan finally 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: gets patient again and moves the ball slowly down the field. 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: It reminded me a week one against the Rams, we've 107 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: seen this development from him. He ran when he needed to, 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: and he ran more in the fourth quarter once again 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: when it was winning time, but it was mostly six 110 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: seven yard passes going through his progression being patient, got 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: protected well, and it ends with the the Digs touchdown 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: and then you get it back with twenty three seconds left. 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: And we're so used to these teams setting up for 114 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: field goals and twenty three seconds left, but it's like 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: not normal, and it takes something great like that Diggs 116 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: throw that you mentioned. So you get the patient, you 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: get the intelligence, but you get the athleticism and then 118 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: the ridiculous arm. And on a day when the Lions 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: almost felt like the better team, it's like the Bills 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: still had the best player, and that that's Josh Allen. Yeah. 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just you look at what the Bills have 122 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: been through over the last week, and it was notable 123 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: to me the look on Josh Allen's face afterwards when 124 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: he was just embracing and hugging Digs that, like Diggs 125 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: is the one they talked about on the sideline kind 126 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: of acting as like the spiritual center for that team, 127 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: trying to lift them up because Tracy Wilson said they 128 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: were totally flat, that Lions team had really taken the 129 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: energy out of them entirely from wire to wire until 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: the end. And I know, I mean Romo said it 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: roughly seven hundred and forty times about the elbows still 132 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: bothering Josh Allen, but you could see it, I think 133 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: on a bunch of throws, but then he could still 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when these guys are down physically, 135 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: like Allan still made those key throws when it mattered most. 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: And we've gotten to the point with the Bills. I 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: know they're a terrible red zone offense statistically, but when 138 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: they had those twenty plus seconds left at the end, 139 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: was anyone doubting that they were gonna go it down 140 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: and kick the field goal? And it just happened automatically. 141 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we're used to it with him, and it 142 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: should have never happened. It should have never happened the Lions. 143 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Who really, you know, I do feel an attachment to 144 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: this team, um that that really does go beyond any 145 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: other team of a T N we've had. I think 146 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: some of it does go back to hard knocks and 147 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: the Campbell is so likable. You know, there was a 148 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: there was a out of halftime UM interview with Campbell. 149 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: Let's let's play that actually justin you are efficient, you 150 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: control the clock, you're aggressive. What more do you need 151 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: to do to close this one out? A few things. Defense, 152 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: we gotta get off the field on third down at 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: least a couple of times. We're firing. I'm pretty good 154 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: right now, which is good. We gotta do that. We 155 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: gotta get a takeaway. On defense, special teams were about 156 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: to pop and return. We need one of those. We 157 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: might have to steal a possession. The other thing is offense, 158 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: protective football, stirred, grossing. I mean, that's that's why Dan 159 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Campbell is so great, and so he's in a root 160 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: for every other coach, those sideline reporters getting nothing, and 161 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: he gives it a lot thought. He gives you actual information. Um. 162 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: But with that said, the way it was handled down 163 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: the stretch, that final drive, that the clock manage that 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: they have all their time outs and tick tick tick tick, 165 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: they end up putting them themselves in a position where 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: they could have won the game, and I know Jared 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: GOFFMSS is a past there um that and maybe we're 168 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: not even talking about this. They could have won the 169 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: game with a touchdown. They could have tied the game 170 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: of the field goal and left no time on the clock, 171 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: but they ended up in a situation where they set 172 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: up for a long field goal and they had no business. 173 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: Uh even to me at that point, I was like, 174 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: they don't really deserve to win anymore. The way that 175 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: played out. They got away with it and they lived 176 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: for a few more minutes. But I was really disappointed 177 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: with how the offense handled that final drive, and Lions 178 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Vans obviously know what I'm talking about. I don't hate 179 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: that they were trying to take the time off because 180 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: they were trying to make sure that the Bills didn't 181 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: win the game, and they were trying to score a 182 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: touch down there if they could, but they would have 183 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: settled for overtime. The problem is the execution, the combination 184 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: of the play call and then Jared Goffi execution on 185 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: third and one with I think it was thirty one 186 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: seconds left to not run the ball there and just 187 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: get the first down. When you have three timeouts, you 188 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: guarantee at that point that there's no overtime before you 189 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: complete deep throw before the incomplete Also, Greg, before that, 190 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: they literally just punted ten seconds off the clock before 191 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: burning a time out. I thought they were second back. Ultimately, 192 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: that was a roller coaster because of but but yeah, 193 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: because but like you had that, I think if they 194 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: play that aggressive and just go for it and are 195 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: a little smarter, I think they could have stolen that game. 196 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: And we'll never know, but I think they got put 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: into a little position where they played it a little 198 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: too cute near midfield, and then, like you're saying, got 199 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: maybe a little too aggressive on that third and one 200 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: and then did I think, Mark, how about we go 201 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and one? But you really couldn't 202 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: because you didn't leave enough time at that point to 203 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: really have an efficient chance analytically to get down to 204 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: the end zone. I think it's another look at a 205 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: team that's they're almost there, you can feel it, and 206 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: this situational situation they completely if he makes the throw 207 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: a chart, Like you said, we don't care because it 208 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: kind of took away um from a really good day 209 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: from Jared Goff in general. But a couple of plays 210 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: before that too, golf had a bad throw to a 211 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: wide open DeAndre Swift on first and tent that would 212 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: have been a big game. It's just like it it took. 213 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: He was really what he I thought it was his 214 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: best game of the season up until that final series 215 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: where it was a team meltdown situationally, and you know, 216 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell after tried to explain what was going through 217 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: his head and and the ultimately if you're yes, they 218 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: got at it with the time getting come put back 219 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: back on the clock. There was no ten second runoff 220 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: with the false start, but that said, like you cannot 221 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: leave the bills that room to operate, and it's just 222 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: it's just that's the difference here. But that's that's like 223 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: it's more on golf than anything because ultimately, yeah, that 224 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: you call the pass play there, and ultimately he's the 225 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: one that decided to go to he hasn't wide open. 226 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: He They talked about it after game. They all said like, 227 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: we don't regret it because we had a guy more 228 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: or less wide open to win the game. And I 229 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: saw on Twitter Ryan Clark, a former player now now 230 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: with ESPN, was kind of just like, if golf decides, 231 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: that's the throw he's gonna make on that play. If 232 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna let it all hang out, you're 233 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: gonna be like, I'm I'm going you gotta hit it 234 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: like you can't miss it by a ton. And Golf's 235 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: that after the game, just like I wish I had 236 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: that throwback. I mean, he had a more or less 237 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: a wide open guy to win the game, and he 238 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: just missed the throw. So when you compare that to 239 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, like it's just these small things, you're absolutely right. Mark, 240 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: he played a really good game overall until that closing sequence. 241 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: But it's like you also just gotta have your players 242 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: hit the shot. Hit the shot. Yeah, And I think 243 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: with golf, when you look at kind of big picture 244 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: for golf, um, I feel like he's played his role 245 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: very admirably in Detroit, which is he is very much 246 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: a bridge guy and in the last couple of years 247 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: where they didn't have maybe the quarterback that they wanted 248 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: in the draft, a guy that could hold the fort 249 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: while you get better around him and maybe you go 250 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: back and go find a quarterback that you could really 251 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: get behind next year. I think he's done overall well 252 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: for them, but Yeah, that's like, that's an example of 253 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: the limitations of golf. He's just not a special player. 254 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: Um and sometimes he because he did play very well, 255 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: but he also through that like hideous like falling down, 256 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: the falling away should have been an interception throw. You're 257 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: always gonna get that with him. Um, but they did. 258 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: You're right, Greg, I thought that for so much of 259 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: this game, you would never be able to tell that 260 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: it was the bills that I were eight and three 261 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: and the lines that were four and six, and that 262 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: again speaks to the progress of Detroit. So he said 263 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: it after the game, Campbell that this game, this hurts, 264 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: but we don't feel you know, we don't feel like 265 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: we are in a bad place now because of this game. 266 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: And I get that the confidences still be high for them. 267 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: I I think so too, because it's like, look, are 268 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: they a playoff team this year? That that would have 269 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: changed things? Said, they won that game in a weird NFC. 270 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: But that said, it's just little things and it's not 271 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: just that golf throat, like the safety was a bit 272 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: of a mess. Jamal Williams has the second fumble of 273 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: his career, that roughing the passer call by Austin Bryant. 274 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was a totally unnecessary game changing scenario 275 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: that helped the goals entirely. Yeah, it was, but it 276 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: was just like you didn't need to do that to 277 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. So it's like a Lions team that is 278 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: going to not make those mistakes when they get to 279 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: that next level. And it's just like I thought, if 280 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: anything though that they said that was the biggest, second 281 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: biggest crowd ever in that stadium. It was loud, it 282 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: was on total tilt on the halftime show. Was amazing. 283 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: What let's talk about that halftime show? What was going 284 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: on with that? Why do you have anything to say 285 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: about bb REXA And I thought it was an intriguing 286 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: thing to be airing in our house at like, you know, 287 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: eleven twenty eight am. It's intriguing choice by the NFL. 288 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't quite as wholesome as a Creed two thousand 289 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: three or that Jonas Brothers later later in the day. Yeah, 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: that you're right. The crowd loves this team. It it 291 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: was it was a missed opportunity. Like Jamal Williams to me, 292 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: is the heart and soul that team. They need a 293 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: pass rush Aidan Hutchinson. I was like, did he play 294 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: in that game? He was literally not in the box score. 295 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: He was not in the box score. Uh. They had 296 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: a guy who played on Dan Sanders his team last 297 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: year who had his first ever game. He's I think 298 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: one of the first players in NFL history to have 299 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: two sacks in his first game. That was James Houston, 300 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: who stepped up Um as a pass rusher. But they 301 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: just have no pass rush. The Bills are also sweating 302 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: this game because they lost Von Miller what looks like 303 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: a significant knee injury. The reports out as we're taping 304 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: this are that it's going to be multiple weeks at 305 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: the least, and it could be as bad as season ending, 306 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: but they need more tests and it's uncertain. Can I 307 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: help you with this guy, Um? Because ESPN's Adam Scheff 308 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: the reported he did not tear his a c el, 309 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: but he's out in definitely. What this is a sprain 310 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: of the knee, which is also some moderate uh tearing 311 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: to a ligament, maybe the m c L. So I 312 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: see this as a four to six week injury. Can 313 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: we get Dr Dan to your list of nickname? You 314 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: would think that that that if you know, schefter has, 315 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, whatever the team has at this point. If 316 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: they're not willing to get a little more specific, well 317 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: that's why I'm here. Okay, he'll be back, but it's yeah, 318 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: how is Dion Dawkins looking the left tackle? Who's incredible 319 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: ankle injury incredible. No, I haven't been tracking Dion as 320 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: much anyway, They're they're they're getting short suddenly. Russo has 321 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: been hurt. Epanessas out. They were very good pressuring the 322 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: interior with with that Oliver in their defensive tackles. But 323 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: if they don't have Von Miller the rest of the 324 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: season or most of the rest of the regular season, 325 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: they're not the same. They're not quite the same Bills team. 326 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Now they've lost Micah Hyde, they've lost Miller. It's just 327 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: getting to be like they're not them. Not being the 328 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: same team doesn't mean they don't have a chance. But 329 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: they've come back to the I think it's easy to 330 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: say they've come back to the pack in the air 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: and let me just be clear, because I don't think 332 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: this would happen. But I don't want to be the 333 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: subject of a critical Mike Florio post. That was just 334 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: me around I know nothing about von Miller's injury situation. 335 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: I got it, Okay, well, I know you guys did, 336 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: but if anyone's listening, I was like writing a road 337 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: a world blurb or I don't need that floating out 338 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: there on Twitter that the NFL networks Dan Hansa's reports 339 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: that von Miller has a sprained m cl and is 340 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: that four to six weeks that would be an incredible 341 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: event on the day after things an be dealing with 342 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: that all the weekend? Um for entertainment value. All right, 343 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: let's move on to uh the well, let's see what 344 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: would be Well, my favorite Thanksgiving meal, ironically is after 345 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving when you make the sandwich and you have the 346 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: bread and you could put the turkey, some stuff in 347 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: a little cranberry um, salt and pepper um, little gravy maybe, 348 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: and you get the sandwich. So the sandwich. The middle 349 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: of this Thanksgiving group of games was Dallas, New York 350 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: from Arlington. Let's check it out. But first let's hear 351 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: again from the legend John Madden. Thanksgiving is a traditional 352 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: day and and our tradition as being at a football 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: game and turkey and turkey legs and turdukins and you're 354 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: great football players. And there's no place that I would 355 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: rather be than right here with you at this time. 356 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: And it doesn't get any better than this. This is 357 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: our family certain goal from the two handoff coming on 358 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: the side, shot out hand off to the tight end, 359 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: and all of the titles turk gonna jump into the 360 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: salvation army kettle like half my uncle's on the Finnegan 361 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: side looked like Pat Summer. Also, I'm not completely certain 362 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: that it in like at Wally Lake and Upstate New 363 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: York at the family reunion that summer. All wasn't there 364 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: on the party boat. What happens on the party boat 365 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: on Whalley Lakes stays on the pontoon, just as the 366 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: vikings about that, I would say it went that far, 367 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: all right. Yes, The middle game was the New York 368 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: Giants and Dallas Cowboys, and it was a game that 369 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: the New York Giants started out strong. It looked like 370 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a game that went down to 371 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: the wire, but it didn't turn out that way because 372 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Dallas took control in the second half. Dak Prescott through 373 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: two scoring passes, the Dalton Schultz Zeke ran one in 374 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: the Giants gonna score late a little lips lipstick on 375 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: the pig to twenty the victory. Uh for the Cowboys 376 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: who moved to eight and three, right behind the Eagles 377 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: and look out and the Giants, Like we talked about 378 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: Mark coming down to earth a little bit now. Um, 379 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: in the last five days they go from seven to 380 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: two to seven and four and they played pretty well. 381 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to the Giantsill start with the Cowboys. Uh, 382 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: they're stacking wins and looking very dangerous. Yeah, and I thought, 383 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, it was not a pristine performance by Dallas. Obviously, 384 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of sloppy play in the first 385 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: I think they doubled the Giants and penalties and some 386 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: costly penalties. But then they're just like a team like this, 387 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: And the reason you believe in in Dallas in general 388 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: is that their star power and their explosive offense took 389 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: care of business in the second half. I mean, and 390 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: then you're on the defense. I think Micah Parsons, who 391 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: last week destroyed Christian derrisaw before he went out with 392 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: a concussion. UM. Andrew Thomas for the Giants, who was 393 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: had a problematic early career, has been on fire this 394 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: season at left tackle and he got taken care of. 395 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: It's just like Micah Parsons is this unstoppable closers that 396 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: is a completely different element for Dallas and seems to 397 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: be the kind of guy that could just take them 398 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: through playoff games. But when they play the way they 399 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: did on offense in the second half and you get 400 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: that version of Ezekiel Elliott with Tony Pollard on the 401 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: side and Ceedee Lamb, I mean, they're just unstoppable. And 402 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: the Giants for me, one little thing. I know sometimes 403 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: you used to watch me watch those Browns games when 404 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: I just say game over, like in the second quarter 405 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: when when Daniel Jones missed that fourth and want to 406 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: see Kwan Barkley and they were down fourteen thirteen. There's 407 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a ton of time to go. But it's like this 408 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: thing is cooked. The Giants have they peaked in this 409 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: particular performance that I think that was very much a 410 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: game of like that's who the Giants are. They're not 411 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: a bad team, they're well coached. But you can't deal 412 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. M Yeah, I think you mentioned se 413 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: Quan Well, I'll get back to the Cowboys. But since 414 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: you're mentioning s Quan like since that thirty five carry 415 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: game we talked about on the podcast, who wondered how 416 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: he'd have to follow that up. He has sixty one 417 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: rushing yards in two weeks, they've targeted him eleven times 418 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: for twenty six yards UM, and they don't have anything. 419 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: If they don't have sequence, it's definitely not all on Quan, 420 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: But I thought he ran quite poorly against Detroit at yesterday. 421 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: Didn't stand out to me. It just I think they 422 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: were overmatched ultimately. UM. But if they don't have se Quon, 423 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: and part of it is the injuries up front, and 424 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: maybe part of it is him being a little more tentative, 425 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: which when he doesn't have the blocking, or maybe it's 426 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: the wear and tear of the season. I don't know 427 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: what it is. But when they don't have sa Quan, 428 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: they don't have much and that they're gonna have a 429 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: really hard time winning game. Yeah, I and yeah, I 430 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: don't want to make too much of it, but I 431 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: think it's a good call. Greg. We talked about it 432 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: in the moment and how he was on pace to 433 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: obliterate his touch total from the previous two years combined 434 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: UH this year. But I do think he he doesn't 435 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: look quite as explosive these last two weeks, and maybe 436 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: it's some decision making. He caught a little bit of 437 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: criticism on the broadcast for um maybe looking for the 438 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: home run when he should just be hitting the whole 439 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: But early in the season he was like that two 440 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen guy where every time he touched the ball 441 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: there was just kind of a bit of an electricity 442 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: to it. I'm not gonna make too much of it, 443 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: but it does feel like there's a little bit of 444 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: a difference in him right now. Maybe he's playing through 445 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: something that we don't know about. Right and they have 446 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: a really hard schedule. They have one game left against 447 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: the team that's under five hundred, whereas the Cowboys now 448 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: have three in a row against UH three under five 449 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: a f C South opponents, not the Titans, the other 450 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the three. So they're ready to go 451 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: on and run. The Giants are gonna be tested two 452 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: of those games against the Commanders, so you know, if 453 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, you hope you go in that. 454 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: But things get hard, and now you look at Dallas 455 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: as a team that has a chance, I think not 456 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: just to you know, represent the NFC, in the Super Bowl, 457 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: but there's an outside chance to be the one site 458 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: see it if Dak Prescott plays like this. Did you 459 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: say outside chance, Greggy, I think it's better than that. Well, 460 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: there are two games behind, so you are you gotta 461 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: almost run the table at this point, um, you it's 462 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: a must win obviously against the Eagles. You're gonna get 463 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: a need to get a little help from the Eagles, 464 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: who don't have like the hardest schedule in the world, 465 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: but you're right they have. My point is you look 466 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: at their their remaining schedule. I know the Eagles don't 467 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: have the toughest schedule, but they're not playing very well 468 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: right now. They've very nearly lost their second road of 469 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: the Cults. The Cowboys have a head to head matchup 470 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: with the Eagles. They take care of business there and 471 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: they they're one game out and then they just gotta 472 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: I think they have. Eagles clearly have the inside path, 473 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: and the vikings can't be ignored in the conversation, but yeah, 474 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have a chance at doing that. 475 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: You know what, though, I asked, I would also rather 476 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: see this Cowboys team maybe not get the number one 477 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: seed down the stretch and like have to grind their 478 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: way through and remake what we think they are in January. 479 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: This team feels different to me than last year's team. 480 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is not a liability right now in my 481 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: in my book, I just think that there's something going 482 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: on with this I'm not sure I enjoy the development 483 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: because it's not a team I really want to deal 484 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: with in super Bowl Week. But if that's that's what 485 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: you get it, then Jerry Jones can say everything I've 486 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: been saying for the last quarter century is valid when 487 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: it's not the case. I just like I like watching 488 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: them play football because they're a fun team, and I 489 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: love seeing this version of Dak. I think that's been 490 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: the most important development of November is Dak Prescott's playing 491 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: like a top five quarterback. I know he had the 492 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: interceptions early yesterday, I don't care. Heath through the ball 493 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: unbelievably the last two weeks better than I think any 494 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league for two weeks, like the next 495 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: gen stat's had a number two. He the the highest 496 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: completion percentage over expected of anyone this year in that game, 497 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: of anyone that's thrown thirty passes in a game. One 498 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: player I wanted to point out was a spin that 499 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: he had on second and long to start the second 500 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: drive of the second half, and that's where he really 501 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: caught fire and they were gonna sack him and it 502 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: was gonna be about second and twenty, but he pulls 503 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: a spin move ends up running for like six or 504 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: seven yards to set up a third and short. And 505 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: that's the athleticism that he's been showing. He looks so athletic, 506 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: and he's throwing the ball great. Later that drive, he 507 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: hits Shultz on the touchdown on the third and fifteen 508 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: just when he throws it. Well, he's got it all. 509 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: He's got the arm, and he's got the way to 510 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: read defenses. And I just think if you blitz them 511 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: like the Giants do, eventually he'll figure you out. And 512 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: I love watching that Dak Prescott, and I know it's 513 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen because kind of what you're saying about 514 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Mark, some of everything with Cowboys just seems 515 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: so like Set and Stone. They just who are who 516 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: they are. Odell Beckham is gonna be on this team 517 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: and uh, maybe that will help them, maybe it won't, 518 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: um but I wouldn't I would hesitate based on what 519 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday from Michael Gallop from UM bringing in 520 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: a guy off a torn a c L that hasn't 521 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: played a snap this season, and then minimizing Gallup because 522 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: I think if Gallop continues to improve and show what 523 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: he was showing yesterday, UM, I think that that will 524 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: be also a big part of this offense. Having that 525 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: guy at number two step up because Gallup, I think 526 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: he's an underrated player. I think he wasn't the same 527 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: guy initially earlier in the season, but if he if 528 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: he finishes strong, this offense just gets all the more dangerous. 529 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I I really think this this cowboy team with Parsons 530 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: lead in the d I think they have it. I 531 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: think they have a shot. Yeah. The one thing I'd 532 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: say about the Odell thing, because I'm with you, I 533 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: think finally waited all this time for forget Michael Gallup 534 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: to look like what you'd hope and he's there now. 535 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean we saw it, Yester, there was a different player. 536 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: But look back at the Rams a year ago. Had 537 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: they not gotten Odell and then Robert Woods goes down, 538 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure they get to the Super Bowl. 539 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Or win it. So it's just like, at why not 540 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: add strength on strength at this point of the season. Yeah, 541 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they need him and and if they 542 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: get him, great, but I don't think they need him there. 543 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: Their numbers when they have two tight ends on the 544 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: field are better than any team in the league except 545 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: for Kansas City that we heard the highlight where it 546 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: was that the four tight end play, which is like 547 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: an old Mike McCarthy thing. They do make it very 548 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: difficult to defend them when they have those two tight 549 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: ends on the field because they run it so well 550 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: with Pollard. Zeke isn't the same, but he's still got 551 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: the instincts even if he doesn't have the juice. But 552 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: Pollard so good. They just hit you with a lot 553 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: of ways. We do have an update on the Odell 554 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Beckham situation. I wish I knew who was reporting this. 555 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll get that to you. But he is going on 556 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: three trips and he's starting his trips with the Giants 557 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are third in line. Uh, the Bills 558 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: are second in line. Yes, that is development. It was. 559 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: It was from Josine to Anderson of CBS Sports. So 560 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: let's the Giants New York, the biggest media market his 561 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: former team. Yes, that that is guaranteed to generate a 562 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: lot of attention. The Cowboys the most highly publicized team 563 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: in the sport. What's the other team? The Bills are 564 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: in the middle there and the Bills the super Bowl. 565 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Everyone loves the Bill's favorite team. He's enjoying it. That's fine. 566 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: You get you get, you get this. Go ahead, buddy, 567 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: your little tour. We're in the middle of the season 568 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: over here. We'll talk about O'Dell when he lands somewhere. Yeah, 569 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: Giants and the Thoughts would be the team he would 570 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: help the most. I mean, it seems like a strange move, 571 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: but considering he's visiting them first, that usually means it 572 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: might be a fit. He might he might be. He 573 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: might just like the idea of New York and and 574 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: going back there, and he's certainly you know this year 575 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: and long term would be of use to them. He 576 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: just feels like a cowboy to me. Um based on 577 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: stuff I said prior to this. We'll see, do we 578 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: really a thirty year old wide receiver coming off of 579 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: torn a c l do we do we give him 580 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning two thousand twelve free agency treatment. He's 581 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: given it to himself. Remember when everyone, uh, Grave Digger, 582 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: we can welcome you in here. I thought the Peyton 583 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: Manning was going to go to the Titans. That was 584 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: like two days in NFL history or one day in 585 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: NFL history. People thought Peyton Manning was going to join 586 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: the Titans. Yep, that was a fun n good well 587 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: the very reason why he didn't actually, but it's not 588 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: we can't talk about it on the show. Justin is 589 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: really good on Mike. He's got his own podcast of 590 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: course on the Titans, which everyone should check out. But 591 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things is sometimes when you catch 592 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: just Justin off guard, we get that answer, and that's 593 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: almost one of my favorite parts of the show. Well, 594 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm I'm giving a stupid answer to Stall while 595 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: I try to find the drop to play that makes 596 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot of sense, and then you with the logical 597 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: thing on our behalf would be it will be like, well, 598 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: you know what, why don't we don't worry about that 599 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: drop anymore? But no, that that needs to stay as well. 600 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: And speaking of Peyton Manning, the Jets had a doomed 601 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: pursuit of Peyton Manning and just to make their quarterback 602 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: feel better, Mark Sanchez. They gave him a huge contract 603 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: extension that immediately backfired as a result. So that was 604 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: if you didn't get Peyton, you were hurting in different ways. Anyway, 605 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys win. Giants have come back a little bit, and 606 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: there are seasons that a little bit of a crossroads. 607 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and when we get back, we'll 608 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: hit the primetime game. When I think of John Man 609 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: and not think of the word big, John was a 610 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: big man, big personality. From across him, the left goes 611 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: to right, the right goes to left. Hall of Fame coach, 612 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: really hall of Fame announcer, and has done so much 613 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: to promote the love of football, A special special man. 614 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: I wanted great ambassadors in the history of the game. 615 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: First intent from the Patriot fifteen We're all Todd TWI 616 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: Cousins under center play action to Dalpin Kirk's great drop. 617 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Looks yeah, good team yard touchdown pullets from Cussins to 618 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: the and it's thirty two five games. Yes, that would 619 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: be all for the Vikings and all they would need. 620 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Paul Allen with the call w k F A N 621 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: I should say Kirk Cousins through for two ninety nine 622 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: and three touches um for one game at least the 623 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: spelling any notions that he can't play with the sundown 624 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: and that go ahead score to Adam thelan with to 625 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: play did lead. The Vikings passed the Patriots a game 626 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: Patriots team thirty three to six on Thursday night in Minneapolis. Greggy, 627 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: this was a game the Vikings obviously needed after an 628 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: embat are some glow out at the hands of the 629 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys four days earlier. That kind of readjusted the way 630 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people looked at them. I don't know 631 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: if this for me changes my feelings about the Vikings. Um. 632 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: I kind of expected them to handle the Patriots, and 633 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: I thought the Patriots would show up in this game. 634 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's huge win for them 635 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: because you bury what was the low point of your 636 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: season pretty quickly. Yeah. I think it was a huge 637 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: game for both teams. There were more lead changes to 638 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: take the lead than any game since they showed a 639 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: status I believe right, Yeah, it was. I think it 640 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: was six. In the end, it like they were. It 641 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: was up for either team to take control. So I 642 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: think it's a heartbreaking loss for the Patriots, and I 643 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: think it's a massive win for the Vikings because it 644 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: was all about Kirk. Kirk started the game very up 645 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: and down. He threw an interception, he had another one 646 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: or two passes in the first half that made your 647 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: one in the first half, one in the second that 648 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: could have been picked. But other than that, he was 649 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: throwing dimes. Justin Jefferson was the best player in this game, 650 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes it just comes down to that. Yes, Kirk 651 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: like put it in a good spot for him, but 652 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: these were tight coverage catches for him to get nine 653 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: for one thirty nine in a touchdown. I think they 654 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: put to bed that this Patriots defense is in any 655 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: way special when they play against like a real quarterback 656 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: in a real offense. But I think Kirk Cousins showed 657 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: that he is that guy, and and they were good 658 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: pointing out in the broadcast early that even though he 659 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: started with those interceptions like he was making difficult timing 660 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: throws again and again into that Patriots coverage, and he 661 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: stood up in a day where they needed to put 662 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: up thirty to win this game or else it wasn't 663 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: gonna happen. They did it because I think that's their 664 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: route to being relevant is being an offensive team, because 665 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't think this team is special at all. I 666 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: think they're below average defensively in Minnesota, they're gonna need 667 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins have games like this and that deal in touchdown. 668 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Why does it happen? Because all game long you had 669 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: two or three people on Justin Jefferson and Jonathan Jones 670 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: is a good cornerback. Gave up six catches for nine 671 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown with Jefferson. I just think part 672 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: of it is that the Cousins Jefferson connection. He just 673 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: has so much belief in Jefferson sometimes triple and so 674 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: it's like Cousins still, I think, you know, versus a 675 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: different type of white out out. There are different cast 676 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: of characters, like he just believes Jefferson is gonna make 677 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: the catch and he does. And I mean, I just 678 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: thought this was a weird game for New England because you, 679 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: I think your best Mac Jones performance up until that 680 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: fourth quarter where the offense just fizzled away, and a 681 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: week after they essentially fried the Jets with special teams, 682 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: and we were talking all week long about how much 683 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: that's imbued and who they are and the Belichick experience. 684 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: They had a terrible um running into the punter on 685 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: fourth and four that set the Vikings up for New Life. 686 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: They gave up the punt return obviously they had a 687 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: thirty one yard punt themselves. It was just a sort 688 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: of a complete meltdown at home. I thought that was 689 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: unexpected for New England. They're sitting at six and five 690 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: right now and out of the playoff picture. Yeah, well, 691 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: I thought in general. And now they have, you know, 692 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: at Buffalo, uh their next game. So we're gonna we're 693 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna learn really where New England sits. Um. I thought 694 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: they hung well in this game. You're right. The it 695 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: is ironic coming off what happened the previous week that 696 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: the turning point in the game was a special team's play. 697 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: Because the the Patriots takeover at halftime, they go right 698 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: down the field Mac Jones, the hunter, Henry and let's 699 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: talk about Henry again a little bit later. But thirty 700 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown, they're up sixteen, and then to give 701 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: up um the ninety seven yard kickoff return to uh, 702 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: who's gonna help me with this? Ken A No? Angu 703 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: mm hmm, you're no, that's I list. I went back 704 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: and listened to it. It sounded similar that is that 705 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: that was a crusher um for the Patriots. But I 706 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: thought it was really important to see mac Jones on 707 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: the Patriots side build off what I thought was a 708 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: pretty good game against the Jets. Now to throw an 709 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: attack down field and make make plays. Um, it should 710 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: have been another touchdown pass. You should have finished with 711 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: three touchdown passes in this game if not for a 712 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: very very strange call. I thought, uh on a Hunter 713 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: Henry target and near the goal line on third down? 714 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: What was the situation where what at what point in 715 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: the game where we act? It was third down and 716 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: they had to settle for field goals mid third quarter? 717 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: So is the ensuing drive after the kickoff return right? 718 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: So exactly so you have the touchdown out of the half, 719 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: you have the kickoff return by the Vikings, and the Patriots, 720 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: to their credit, take the ball back and they don't 721 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: go three and out and the game gets away from 722 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: They go right down the field again. Mac Jones hits 723 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry for what is to me a clear touchdown 724 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: that would have put them up by uh seven UM 725 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: in this game. And it's with sixty three to go 726 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: on the third but instead they challenge it and they 727 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: rule that Hunter Henry didn't maintain and survive contact on 728 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: the ground. I could hear Chris Wesling go nuts about 729 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: this right now? Uh, this call on the field. And 730 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: and because I thought this could be something, because I, 731 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: even as a Jets fan, was outraged by the call. 732 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: What does Zolac think about this? Over on w b Z, 733 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: Let's listen what he had to say, Chris DAILI could rolls. 734 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: You can't have more crystal clear indication of the figures 735 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: under the ball. Did the ball come up? Yes, the 736 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: corroll didn't force the ball and never touched the ground. 737 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: What worst case scenario it should be at the one 738 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: foot line. Well, there's the thing. Then play review outlasted 739 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: the television right, they're looking for stuff. Now. You know 740 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: what annoys me? It's funny the sentient power raid bottle. 741 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: Everything he said is right there. I guess, yeah. I 742 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: mean that was totally sober minded, crystal clear take on things. 743 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: I thought. I agree with the Zola I think Terry 744 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: McAuley got this call overturn. I continue to believe that 745 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: the broadcast team Jim Nance often gets them to replay 746 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: it their all watching the broadcast and macauley came in 747 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: and was weirdly confident that this should be overturned from 748 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: the beginning, and and Zolex right, you can see the 749 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: fingers under the ball. But I think because McAuley was 750 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: so clear, I really think that's what does it sometimes 751 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: And it's like the first view it's supposed to be 752 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: reviewed though, where it's like in you know, incontrovertible evidence 753 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: to overturn it. So that was crazy, and it was 754 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: part of like, you know, they were on the end 755 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: of some some tough calls. They also played a lot 756 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: of made a lot of bone headed mistakes. It was 757 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: just like a really sloppy one. I think they'll they'll 758 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: regret because of those. UM, that's an interesting comic. Greg 759 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: Terry McAuley is a employee of NBC and if if 760 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: he's if he's the one responsible for I mean, this 761 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: is by me. But we know that when Nance says 762 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: they got to look at this, then suddenly they stopped, 763 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: they start looking at it. So that's saying I disagree. 764 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if that's actually what's going on here, 765 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: you're using UM and outside the league, UM employee of 766 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: the broadcast to uh make major game shifting calls. I 767 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: would hope that we're just letting it influence you, because 768 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: I other I was trying to come up with a 769 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: reason why that that that would have been overturned otherwise. 770 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 1: I I think Greg is a point in the sense 771 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: that is that triggering it automatically? No, But is there 772 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: this idea that there's this bubbling up perception of something 773 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: having having gone wrong in the game. Twitter is going 774 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: nuts everywhere, It's becoming a talking point, it's becoming a 775 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: subject for shows the next day, and it's like, quick, 776 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: let's get on this and maybe even have our our 777 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: decision influenced by the reaction in real time. So some 778 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: calls went against the Patriots. There was also like a 779 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: missed face mask um on mac Jones on the second 780 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: to last drive, a tripping call that they could have 781 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: made on one of those sacks of mac Jones. All 782 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: that said, the Patriots lost this game more because they 783 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: struggled in all the way is that Belichick hates, which 784 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: are not unique. This year, they were way negative on 785 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: penalties this year. Their number one in the league in 786 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: terms of net penalties, so like they have more penalties 787 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: than their opponents. UH their second in the league in 788 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: net penalty yards. This was another one that that killed him. 789 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: They're terrible and situational football. They were owed for three 790 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: in the red zone. They're one of the worst red 791 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: zone teams. They blew the clock situation at both the 792 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: end of the first half and didn't have time for 793 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: a couple of extra plays to score a touchdown because 794 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: both mac Jones and Hunter Henry made mental mistakes. You 795 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: mentioned the running into the punter thing, which led directly 796 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: UH to seven points. They kind of botched even the 797 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: final drive situation UH there in terms of clock management. 798 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: They've just not been a smart team. And this isn't 799 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: a unique thing to this last week. They've been a 800 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: very sloppy in the way that Belichick hates type of 801 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: team all year, and they lose the turnover margin. It's 802 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: like this team, this seems not good enough to win 803 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: those that type of way. They're just not But Greg, 804 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: do you do you not think some of this charts 805 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: back to the fact that UM in an avant garde 806 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: approach to coaching staffs. They have this miniscule coaching staff 807 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: that includes his son and a defensive coordinator and a 808 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator of old running the offense, and they 809 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: spent the first two months of the season totally disjointed 810 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. We're finally getting a 811 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: little bit from Mac Jones, but it's like there's no robust, 812 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: uh like voice in Belichick's here and on these sideline 813 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: situations like there there. This is a typical of the Patriots. 814 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit because of how the 815 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: coaching staff is constructed. I agree, although they were very 816 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: sloppy a year ago too, so maybe who knows, Maybe 817 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: it's just like maybe the old man's getting old. It 818 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: wasn't that different a year ago outside of the offensive court. Mac. 819 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: You're right though, and that was mac jones best game 820 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: by far this year, so that was Yeah, I'm more 821 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: I guess I'm a little more optimistic about going on 822 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: out of this game. That was a huge moment for 823 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: them to throw for three a two. I know there 824 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: was a little garbage time at the very end, but 825 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: he was over three by that point. A lot of 826 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: big players down the field. Uh, He's thrown it accurately. 827 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row. He was hyper accurate and 828 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: bad conditions against the Jets mostly short game, he attacked 829 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: down field. I think it bodes very well the Patriots. 830 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: To me, I still I kind of see him as 831 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: like a tenant seven team, and I think that it 832 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: will be enough to get it in. But they gotta 833 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: right now, they can't get They have two games against 834 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: the Bills. So if you got that puts you at 835 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: seven right there, Well when the win the next one, 836 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: because you got at Buffalo and we well, you don't 837 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: know what Buffalo needs or doesn't need by week eighteen, 838 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: but the game will be in New England, just to 839 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: correct myself, Thursday Night Football UM on December one, and 840 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: on the on the on the Viking side of it, 841 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy the way that the season is played out. 842 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 1: But the Vikings can clinch the NFC North next week 843 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: with a win over the Jets at home and a 844 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: little bit of outside help. So they have put themselves 845 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: in an excellent position here. They're right in it with 846 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and obviously the Eagles still leading the NFC. 847 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm feeling Kirk Cousins this year. I'm feeling 848 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: continuing to stack some big games and put some ghosts 849 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: to bed. Why is no one talking about Kevin O'Connell 850 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: is Coach of the Year. I mean, especially after the 851 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: way they bounced back this week and what they are 852 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: in general. I mean, I get choice for the Coach 853 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: of the Year. I'm just saying he's in the mix. 854 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he use my choice right now. Like 855 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: a top five I want top five lists for all 856 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: the awards. By the way, they're just doing it for 857 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: m v P give It the Year. Well what about 858 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: top five for Assistant Coach of the Year. I don't 859 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: know why that has been like a priority number one? 860 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: Why I feel like the lighting has changed in your 861 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: room in the prison. I am next to a light, 862 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: I'm next to a window, and uh I Typically when 863 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: we do this on Fridays at ten am, I have 864 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: to cover up the open space with a lot of 865 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: garments and I failed to do that, and now I 866 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: feel like I have, like, um, the sun burning the 867 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: skin off. Are we putting this up on YouTube? Justin God? 868 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: I hope not. We are. We are People shouldn't be 869 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: checking out our YouTube show, as I know some of 870 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: you guys like it that way. You see the facial 871 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: reactions We've noticed the previews and the recaps. Especially, people 872 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: are starting to watch him. So do it. If it 873 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: gets us paid more in the long run, let's do that. 874 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: By no, if you if you enjoy the program in 875 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: that way, please do that, and you know, don't get 876 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: us paid more development. I'm just having a little fun. 877 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm having alright. I thought they almost didn't make a 878 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: big enough deal the fact that Kevin O'Connell was drafted 879 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: by by the Bill Belichick to be a backup for 880 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady like eight years into his career, and here 881 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: he goes and beats the guy that drafted him. That's 882 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I feel like everyone at some point in 883 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: their lifespan was drafted to be a backup to Tom Brady. 884 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: That was me in two thousand two. Actually didn't work out, 885 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: didn't didn't see the field all right. So there you go. 886 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: Those are the Thanksgiving Games. Thank you to everybody, uh 887 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: for listening. Like we said Sunday, we're right back on 888 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: our usual schedule with the flagship program. Remember also, if 889 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: you're in the Los Angeles area, the Homecoming show coming 890 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: up in January January from the Bourbon Room UH in Hollywood. UH. 891 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: It is going to be a great show, So please 892 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: get your tickets and join us. Uh, check out our 893 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: socials for a link for that anything else boys to 894 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: share before we say goodbye. I mean, I'm just a 895 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving to you guys. You know, I know that 896 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: we got the whole weekend here and let's go us. 897 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: The problem with your confident way you started this y podcast, Dan, 898 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: is you know the game will be over by the 899 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: time most people are here, said, I know, I know. 900 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying shot got beautiful. The timing is tricky. Yeah, 901 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: the time we can addit. I will take the slings 902 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: and arrows. If by some shock to the system, England 903 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: actually beats the US in a World Cup match, which 904 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: has literally never happened. Um, So I don't expect that 905 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: to change, but if it does, I will on Sunday 906 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: give respect to the Three Lions. Yeah. Great, it's a 907 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: great move Dan, to antagonize, um what is essentially like 908 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: th of our listener base. So, um, I hope that 909 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: goes well for you. But there's other countries out there. 910 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: We had a listener from Norway who wanted a shout 911 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: out to shout out to Norway. So that leads right now. 912 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: With the way the light is hitting your face, can 913 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: you just stop we keep talking. The game will literally 914 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: started you all right, everybody. Thank you to everybody. I 915 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving, have a great weekend. 916 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: We'll be back Sunday night. Until then, Dan hands a 917 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: signing offer. The Ghoulish Mark Sessler, the Quiet storm Uh, 918 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: the Old Boss, the great digger behind the glass. Remember 919 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: he the call