Speaker 1: In today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we got
Speaker 1: the running back carousel and free agency. All these guys
Speaker 1: changing spots. What does it mean?
Speaker 2: Fred?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're gonna tell us here in a second.
Speaker 1: And we got free agent Frenzy. We talked about the
Speaker 1: alleged signings of the Washington Commanders and up or down?
Speaker 1: Which way do we trade in the driving dash? Stay
Speaker 1: tuned to find out.
Speaker 2: Cause she not around.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Fred's food and Santana Moss and Fred. I got
Speaker 1: to see something very specially to Shay. Came by the office.
Speaker 1: Got to see you on disan audition for the Marching Band.
Speaker 1: I did the segment which will be on our show
Speaker 1: coming out on Thursday next week. So how'd that go?
Speaker 2: It went well. I think I'm gonna make the band.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Is it change it up?
Speaker 1: She heard about it on What Is going On?
Speaker 3: I tried out for the Washington football team, the Washington
Speaker 3: Commander's Band, you know which. We we have two teams
Speaker 3: in NFA. They still got bands in Baltimore. And I
Speaker 3: tried out for the Symbol Player yesterday.
Speaker 2: The only instrument you probably can play, you know, a
Speaker 2: drum major.
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a drum but they have one and.
Speaker 2: See you, but we had it.
Speaker 3: So I tried out for the symbols yesterday, and I
Speaker 3: think I made the band the symbols.
Speaker 1: Is that what they're called the Yeah, I got to
Speaker 1: hit them their triangle.
Speaker 4: You know, I made hell out a triangle that the
Speaker 4: act pretty hard to do though, seriously.
Speaker 3: They're hard to hold, Like, I don't think people understand
Speaker 3: they're like when you see them heavy least they are.
Speaker 1: Heavy, they're just awkward and there's not like I thought
Speaker 1: there'd be like a little handle, No, with some on it.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's a little like a scrap.
Speaker 2: That's it, sticking your hand holding it on our sides.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And so Fred did a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: And then then the woman who does it for the
Speaker 1: band showed us out come out and just you know,
Speaker 1: pund whatever she did.
Speaker 4: To your credit, you didn't get that much practice time
Speaker 4: probably right. No, No, they called you right in, we're
Speaker 4: gonna feel them today, and knowing you, you told them that,
Speaker 4: and then they didn't tell us what instrument and then Fred.
Speaker 1: I came to watch Fred because it's like a part
Speaker 1: of the bed, you know. And then I got in
Speaker 1: there and Fred's like, you do it, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to hold this. I did tried.
Speaker 1: I tried it, and I feel like I messed it
Speaker 1: up because she was like just banging them together and
Speaker 1: I feel like I was just banging like my hands
Speaker 1: were not.
Speaker 2: I think we were just trying. We were using too
Speaker 2: much power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when she did it, she was like kind
Speaker 1: of keeping it.
Speaker 4: Nice, and she turned it this way. It started to
Speaker 4: go back and forward crossed it.
Speaker 2: We knew that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like she could have helped us out
Speaker 1: there a little bit.
Speaker 4: So it safe to say that the one instrument that
Speaker 4: we've seen for years in the band that.
Speaker 2: We thought was the easiest to gate, it might be
Speaker 2: the hardest one. It might be the hardest one.
Speaker 3: I could probably play that old dirty school flute better
Speaker 3: than I could play them symbols.
Speaker 1: Right, we should try to get that going dirty playing
Speaker 1: in don't okay? I wanted a serious answer. Have you
Speaker 1: played an instrument before?
Speaker 4: I told you already started a lot? I told you
Speaker 4: all us played the dirty school flue, elementary, the.
Speaker 1: Recorder, the record, the recorder.
Speaker 2: I played the recorder, and I told you I used
Speaker 2: to play the triangle.
Speaker 1: Like like not ironically, like seriously, for you know that
Speaker 1: was the preacher.
Speaker 2: He was in He was in there doing doing his
Speaker 2: the triangle. Uh huh.
Speaker 4: And I no, I'm being honest.
Speaker 2: I believe you triangle, dirty flu and symbols. Now what
Speaker 2: else did that?
Speaker 3: I guess you want to add the symbols to it?
Speaker 3: But also I play a mean cow bill? When did
Speaker 3: you have from Missippi State?
Speaker 2: That's our thing?
Speaker 1: Is the call nice?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you know just ringing it or you know there's
Speaker 1: like no no.
Speaker 3: See, to ring a cawby is to actually get the
Speaker 3: attention of the cows and running them a certain direction
Speaker 3: there with a cavell as fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought the cowbo was to know so you
Speaker 1: knew where the cows were.
Speaker 3: No, the cow bell is for me to move to herd. No,
Speaker 3: it's for you to move to herd. Listening Now, if
Speaker 3: I play the cow bells, an instrument like this is
Speaker 3: for me to use it on cows. Now, if I
Speaker 3: turn it the opposite way and pull out a stick,
Speaker 3: the stick and start to play it like this now,
Speaker 3: playing the cow bell as an instrument more cow.
Speaker 1: Bell, I can think about it. Have you've seen that's skip?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Aa oh it's stupid. Mo cow bill. What about
Speaker 2: you in an instrument?
Speaker 1: No, I never played an instrument period. Okay, Jason, what's
Speaker 1: up man? You got something? We got We just saw
Speaker 1: a commentary on what's happening right now.
Speaker 2: Heye, I feel so much hate.
Speaker 5: A cowbll is worn around the neck of livestock so
Speaker 5: herders can keep track of the animal via sound.
Speaker 2: He was right. What about the call of state?
Speaker 4: The cow bell stick is to move the cow country?
Speaker 4: People out there that list stuff so technical? When you
Speaker 4: put the cow bell, put the cow bell on the cow.
Speaker 2: Yes, what is the name of the thing that he's
Speaker 2: trying to describe? My cab?
Speaker 4: He's missing he's misinterpreting what it's called. You know, this
Speaker 4: is what happens, because I'm pretty sure it's two of
Speaker 4: them because they do.
Speaker 2: Something. But I don't know what they think about our
Speaker 2: cow bell?
Speaker 1: Is this?
Speaker 3: They was playing a game in the early like fifties,
Speaker 3: Missippi State versus Old miss Third quarter in the game,
Speaker 3: we're losing by twenty cows storm the field. They use
Speaker 3: the cow bells to get the cows off the field.
Speaker 4: All right, we come back and win that game. Mississippi
Speaker 4: State adopts the cow bells their instrument.
Speaker 2: Because of that one thing.
Speaker 1: Everything you say sounds like you're making it up.
Speaker 2: Every like that sounds.
Speaker 1: I know, that's an amazing story and it's.
Speaker 2: Probably man, I don't doubt them no more.
Speaker 1: It's probably true, but it's that's that story sounds made
Speaker 1: up like cow's got on the field, and like it's
Speaker 1: probably true. I don't disbelieve you, but like I'm just.
Speaker 2: Coach. Is cool?
Speaker 4: Mississippi State used to be Mississippi A and m used
Speaker 4: to be missipy egg and coaching. Now this is it sold.
Speaker 4: The cows ran on the field, We ran them off
Speaker 4: with the thing I did. Yeah, if you would, I'm
Speaker 4: like a damn damn boy.
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Speaker 1: Guys, we got a lot of stuff going on, to
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about. Free agency is
Speaker 1: in full effect, right, which is always exciting. But there's
Speaker 1: one element of free agency I want to talk about
Speaker 1: before we talk about the Commander's free agency, and that
Speaker 1: is the running back carousel. Yeah, all these running backs
Speaker 1: kind of switching cheat teams, for about the same value.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've talked about running back value on
Speaker 1: the podcast before and I thought we'd kind of this
Speaker 1: is a good opportunity to kind of put a cap
Speaker 1: on that, And I just want to get your guys
Speaker 1: initial thoughts running back value. Let's start with Santana.
Speaker 4: Okay, mynsort thought is what's crazy to me is just
Speaker 4: understanding what's going on when we talk about the different
Speaker 4: running backs going in different places. So is it that
Speaker 4: the team say that I can plug anybody in here
Speaker 4: and get the same production, or is the team saying
Speaker 4: that or the other teams are saying where I'd rather
Speaker 4: have this guy and get more product.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of lost that type. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I'm more tight.
Speaker 4: It's almost like either or it might be the team saying, look,
Speaker 4: we don't necessarily need a Henry, we don't have certain
Speaker 4: need a sa Quan. Or it could be the other
Speaker 4: team saying, what with a Henry, we can be that
Speaker 4: much more efficient efficient or we're a sa Quan, we.
Speaker 2: Can be that much more lead through offensively.
Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to grip get a grip on
Speaker 4: what is the whole perception of why these guys are
Speaker 4: basically playing musical chairs right now. I think with the NFL,
Speaker 4: really they try to devalue the running back, but they
Speaker 4: can't devalue the running back without devaluing the quarterback because
Speaker 4: a quarterback, I mean a running back, protects a quarterback
Speaker 4: in the way nobody else does.
Speaker 2: When you can run the ball.
Speaker 4: If your quarterback having a bad game, that they're running
Speaker 4: back protects him with his legs. A past game running
Speaker 4: back protection with pass coverage the running back.
Speaker 2: The teams in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 4: Had running game, no matter if it's for check O
Speaker 4: or Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: And what they doing over at the Ravens.
Speaker 3: I think when you look at these guys, let's say,
Speaker 3: for instance, say kwon three dimeback do it all?
Speaker 2: Is he a step over Swift?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They upgraded in that position.
Speaker 3: You look at a team like the Ravens, they felt
Speaker 3: like besides Gus Edwards, they had nobody that could run
Speaker 3: down and get him their physical.
Speaker 4: Prayers prisons here here go Derrick Henry. When you got
Speaker 4: a team like this like.
Speaker 3: The Packers, the Packers feel like they're there, like we
Speaker 3: need to go get a couple players to put us
Speaker 3: over the edge.
Speaker 2: So what do they do. They get Josh Jacobs and
Speaker 2: they go sign the safety. They saying we're in win Mo.
Speaker 4: Now, when I look at some of these teams, Tony Pollard,
Speaker 4: they're building some At the Titans, they need youth with
Speaker 4: their running back, and they also want something different than
Speaker 4: what they had.
Speaker 2: They used to own the suv and Derrick Henry. Now
Speaker 2: they want a.
Speaker 3: Sports car they can play three down to catch out
Speaker 3: the backfield. So I think some of this is about identity,
Speaker 3: while some of.
Speaker 2: This is about I need to get younger.
Speaker 3: I need to get somebody to get me in here
Speaker 3: that gets me over the age to win a championship.
Speaker 4: Time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I still think the running back is
Speaker 1: like relatively devalued. I think when you look at the
Speaker 1: free agent market, it's crazy. When you look at the
Speaker 1: edge rusher market, it's crazy, Like, look at you know,
Speaker 1: we signed or potentially allegedly we signed an edge rusher
Speaker 1: for you know, thirty three million dollars over three years.
Speaker 1: That's eleven million dollars for a guy that was a
Speaker 1: kind of a rotational spot guy. And again he's he's
Speaker 1: a good football player. Don't want to diminish that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But here's a guy and Dereck Henry, who was the
Speaker 1: NFL's leading rusher the past probably you know, he's been
Speaker 1: in his career at certain points, right, always kind of
Speaker 1: close to that two thousand yard mark when he's on
Speaker 1: and he's signed for about eight million dollars, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you know, in terms of like
Speaker 1: per year. So I just look at that value and
Speaker 1: I say, the running back position is devalued. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And I think the interesting one in this kind of
Speaker 1: collection here is Sakuon Barkley, you know, leaving the Giants
Speaker 1: going to Philadelphia, because he is the closest thing, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, to the standard at the position. That's Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A guy that can beat you in the past game
Speaker 1: is a mismatch in the run game from an athletic standpoint.
Speaker 1: So that is the reason why that number makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. Now, the thing I would I want to
Speaker 1: ask you guys, though, is that that doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: fit traditionally with the team building philosophy of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: They've because the offensive line is so good, they've been
Speaker 1: able to put anybody back there. Like the Swift had
Speaker 1: a great year last year. Yeah, and he was on
Speaker 1: like I think he was on like a two year,
Speaker 1: eight million dollar contract or something like that, basically peanuts.
Speaker 1: And you go and you quadruple that salary number obviously
Speaker 1: for a good player. And we like say quant a
Speaker 1: lot on here, But is it worth the extra expenditure,
Speaker 1: especially when you can seem to find, like all the
Speaker 1: guys you just talked about are really good football player.
Speaker 2: But I think when it comes to their situation, it
Speaker 2: was room.
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but it was rumored
Speaker 4: that Swift won it out whatever reason.
Speaker 2: It was, because he wasn't getting involed out and wanting
Speaker 2: to be there no more.
Speaker 4: So, when you have a guy that you know that
Speaker 4: fits what you do, you're going to try to go
Speaker 4: get the next best guy that can do that, and
Speaker 4: the next best guy who can be Swift and be
Speaker 4: ten times betterness with for I won't say that much
Speaker 4: betterness with, but say Corner is like like like a
Speaker 4: times five to me when it comes to what he
Speaker 4: can do with the ball in the passing game, in
Speaker 4: the run game, to me, it feels like it's been
Speaker 4: a little more for.
Speaker 3: Him to me, It feels like the side effect of
Speaker 3: watching the forty nine ers build their team. Like I
Speaker 3: think McCaffrey what he does for that offense, Saquon can
Speaker 3: do for this offense.
Speaker 2: He takes him over the top.
Speaker 3: Like right right now, we went player for player Philadelphia
Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers quarterback. I get a Philadelphia
Speaker 3: running back. I watched those two. I think they're equal.
Speaker 3: All right, I go Brandon, I you can debo Sammers.
Speaker 3: I'd rather have AJ Brian and DeVonta Smith.
Speaker 4: The only play San Francisco be still met is George
Speaker 4: Kettle edges out that it's goddard. But I can see
Speaker 4: where they said, we're not far from that blueprint. Can
Speaker 4: we get a home run Hill and somebody that can
Speaker 4: tote the game when when the passing game ain't there, when.
Speaker 2: It gets cold, somebody could tote them.
Speaker 4: But what I will say another spot where they're missing,
Speaker 4: that is just the guy who's calling the plays. How
Speaker 4: they conduct their offense. Their offense isn't to me nowhere
Speaker 4: near what it was two years ago. How she coordinated
Speaker 4: them out here head so they a little further than
Speaker 4: what they might think. You can get all the players
Speaker 4: in the world but if you're not designing this thing
Speaker 4: around the way it's supposed to be ran efficiently effectively,
Speaker 4: then you're not going to be in the same boat
Speaker 4: as san Fran. And that's to me, I think a
Speaker 4: lot of the people. You can look at players all
Speaker 4: you want. I've been on a team where we didn't
Speaker 4: have probably as much as those key names when it
Speaker 4: comes to the running back position. Might have had a
Speaker 4: couple of guys on the outside include myself that was valuable,
Speaker 4: like some of those guys. But man, we've had Alfred
Speaker 4: Morris in our backfield and killed people.
Speaker 2: We've had a Hallu.
Speaker 4: On our backfield that offense and killed people like I've
Speaker 4: seen san Fran when Moister wasn't that much. We didn't
Speaker 4: know who the hell he was, and they went out
Speaker 4: there and you know, ran through people.
Speaker 2: So the way they run things and conduct things offensively
Speaker 2: eves the playing field.
Speaker 4: They can get the players and just make make them
Speaker 4: that much more of a player by being in it.
Speaker 1: Off But I think that's that's what I think. Maybe
Speaker 1: the point of this is, like, is say Kwan going
Speaker 1: to be used effectively in that offense? Because if they
Speaker 1: use them the exactly exact same way they use swift.
Speaker 1: Then it's money poorly spent right when you need you
Speaker 1: need to maximize that playmaker.
Speaker 2: Actually lean on lean on him would but.
Speaker 1: In his career he's not like that guy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he's an explosive playmaker. I'm not
Speaker 1: no explosive play maker, but like you know, Jacobs, for example,
Speaker 1: is a more of a bruising, downhill guy that you
Speaker 1: can lean on, right, which I think is interesting that
Speaker 1: they that he goes up to Green Bay and they
Speaker 1: kind of he replaces aj Dillon and the other guy
Speaker 1: that was there, right, kind of Aaron Jones, right, Like
Speaker 1: that is a stylistic fit, but here, like just stylistically,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it works. And so to Tanna's point,
Speaker 1: it's like the running back is so important in terms
Speaker 1: of having a vision for how to use the position.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what I come out of this saying,
Speaker 1: like it's all kind of interchangeable, right, Gus that's Edward
Speaker 1: goes to Seattle, Yeah, right, and then it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: who do we bringing us a big back Henry And
Speaker 1: it's like they're making about the same amount of money
Speaker 1: this year, you know, what I'm saying, there's no costs.
Speaker 4: And I didn't want to really step on you with this,
Speaker 4: and but just talking about interchangeable and the reason why
Speaker 4: I asked because if you look at a guy and
Speaker 4: who the Bingles just lost mixing mixing, what mixing did
Speaker 4: for them, Zach Mass is not the.
Speaker 2: Same kind of running back. He's not that level. You
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So don't get me wrong. I'm not taking them away
Speaker 4: from Zach Marssels. I think he had a hell of
Speaker 4: a year last year, and I think you on to
Speaker 4: get better. He's a young guy, but to me, he
Speaker 4: was more like the guy who backed up mixing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: And so with now you have both of those guys.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if he's still around because p Ryan
Speaker 4: was here with us. Also, he was still on the
Speaker 4: team last year with them, right, Yeah, so I'm not
Speaker 4: sure p Ryan's still there. But now you're bringing Zach
Speaker 4: Moss to me, that's the same guy. Yeah, So you
Speaker 4: want that two guys want that slash year, that that
Speaker 4: that that who can be that you know, that style
Speaker 4: of play, who had the same start of play as
Speaker 4: a mixing because to me, I think he was one
Speaker 4: of those guys that no one gave a lot of
Speaker 4: credit to. But he was on pace at one time,
Speaker 4: running the ball like the kid that left left Arm
Speaker 4: or Pittsburgh prematurely what his name was, lebyon Bell that
Speaker 4: mix him looking like he looking like brothers. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: he just he just lasted a little long and stayed
Speaker 4: around a little long. And now you now, you now
Speaker 4: you're missing that guy, and you bringing a guy who's
Speaker 4: more of a bruiser, who can.
Speaker 2: Get down here with the ball.
Speaker 4: That that's that has similar style of play like the
Speaker 4: guy you have already as a second second stream running back.
Speaker 3: Speaking of it like using them right like I could
Speaker 3: say this, I don't think we used Antonio Gibson right
Speaker 3: as his time here, so hopefully with him going to
Speaker 3: New England, they would because I felt like when we
Speaker 3: brought him in we tried to make him a running
Speaker 3: back first, and I think we should have let him
Speaker 3: be a receiving back first and learn how to run
Speaker 3: the ball second. And I think that's what he'll get
Speaker 3: to do in New England.
Speaker 1: And obviously there's been a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: reports Sticky Givoloo John conn reporting that Austin Eckler is
Speaker 1: signing with the Command, right, and obviously that's I think
Speaker 1: that's again another piece of the musical chairs. It's like
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, a lot of people kind of saying, you know,
Speaker 1: an older back, right, Yeah, still catches the ball well,
Speaker 1: but nothing you know, explosive anymore. Likes he's still a.
Speaker 2: Good football, still a great receiving mass.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of but not like the dynamic athlete
Speaker 1: that I think Gibson is. And it's just interesting that
Speaker 1: you kind of move move one out, another guy comes
Speaker 1: in to kind of fill the role. And I do
Speaker 1: think there's a leadership element.
Speaker 4: Potentially difference in them is leadership and past protection. One
Speaker 4: thing Gibson achilles Heel was you wanted me in on
Speaker 4: third down.
Speaker 2: But if he.
Speaker 3: Has the block now he becomes achilles Heeled to you
Speaker 3: with Eckler, a guy that's quite six hundred pounds, his stuff,
Speaker 3: his face in there, and he's a good atlet val
Speaker 3: for a young quarterback. Like everything I'm doing on his
Speaker 3: team now is envision of a young quarterback.
Speaker 2: Like with my young quarterback, I need to have one.
Speaker 3: I need to have a third down back they can catch,
Speaker 3: but I also need my third down back to protect.
Speaker 3: And I also need him to actually blame some leadership,
Speaker 3: hold some people accountable, be an og in the room,
Speaker 3: and I don't think Gibson could do that. I don't
Speaker 3: think he brings in like when I say Eckla even
Speaker 3: though he's not the player, it's a respect that comes
Speaker 3: with his name that I think he brings in that room.
Speaker 3: And as a defense, hey, they got Eckla. Hey when
Speaker 3: he in the game and we need to watch.
Speaker 1: This also speaks to kind of like what like what
Speaker 1: the plan is? You know, because when you watch him
Speaker 1: in San Diego La now, right, one of the things
Speaker 1: that six out is like he's not like he's not
Speaker 1: like a great choice runner. He's like an outlet valve.
Speaker 1: He's goodding past protection, He's very solid, right, So, like,
Speaker 1: what is the vision for him and how they're going
Speaker 1: to use him? Cause honestly think I think b Rob
Speaker 1: showed Hi stuff last year that maybe theyink, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: he's a more dynamic in some of these areas. So
Speaker 1: it's just interesting how running backs are so interchangeable.
Speaker 3: I see, I feel like b Rob, he's running back one.
Speaker 3: I think they brought him in here running back one
Speaker 3: in half.
Speaker 2: But I think also if you look at what Kingsbury
Speaker 2: did when he.
Speaker 4: Was in Arizona, he had that Connor, he had the
Speaker 4: other guys who and who came in and he had
Speaker 4: those guys as almost like a what you call a
Speaker 4: thunder and.
Speaker 2: Lightning, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I picture them using you know, knowing that, hey,
Speaker 4: we're not going to be able to just put everything
Speaker 4: on be robbing, especially being young and knowing that you
Speaker 4: don't want to put that kind of load on him.
Speaker 2: You want to bring a guy in that's one.
Speaker 4: A veteran leadership too, that has done it at a
Speaker 4: high level for for a long time. And you got
Speaker 4: to think about it. Last year was the first year
Speaker 4: that he kind of like wasn't himself and that's ye
Speaker 4: had a bad ankle and it was from the first game,
Speaker 4: had a hundred plusure. You look at what he did
Speaker 4: the two previous years, sixteen hundred yards from scrimmage, fifte
Speaker 4: hundred yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 2: I want that from a guy who just.
Speaker 4: Did who just was off that that mark last year,
Speaker 4: you know, and knowing things was a little different from
Speaker 4: him injury wise, So I would take that in the
Speaker 4: day and knowing that we're not bringing back Gibson, So
Speaker 4: that's like, you know who else out there that fits
Speaker 4: with be trying to do with that position and that
Speaker 4: third down you know, that third down running back.
Speaker 2: We need players like simply this. We got a roster
Speaker 2: with a.
Speaker 3: Lot of holes in it and ain't got a lot
Speaker 3: of players. So now we're starting to accumulate players. And
Speaker 3: the one thing I love to have on my team
Speaker 3: is good players. The one thing I know about Eckley, He's.
Speaker 4: A good football player, and I just want to start
Speaker 4: to stack especially in rooms. I can say this, Do
Speaker 4: you feel better off this one move better about the
Speaker 4: running back room than you did a week ago?
Speaker 2: Because I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you have two young guys. Now
Speaker 4: you have a barian leadership in that room presence. Somebody
Speaker 4: said that having instead of having three your minds, you know,
Speaker 4: you got one guy who's who who can sit there
Speaker 4: and really kind of now, you know, I guess you
Speaker 4: can say, brain these other guys along how to be pros.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you have you
Speaker 2: have the ability. But this is something I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 2: I've been there and done that a long way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in addition to the running backs, obviously, there
Speaker 1: was some big quarterback moves. Our guy, Kirk Cousins man,
Speaker 1: it's his best life.
Speaker 2: To listen.
Speaker 4: Million, God has blessed this man in a way. Listen, listen.
Speaker 4: He learned the art of dealing here, son too. Yeah
Speaker 4: he is like you see the difference of the dynamical turned.
Speaker 2: What you're waiting on? Jesus, listen to me, Kurt.
Speaker 3: I think what he learned through was franchising him. He
Speaker 3: learned one how to bet on himself. Two he got
Speaker 3: callous to being scared to bet on himself. And he said,
Speaker 3: after he got franchise here, I'll never take another dollar
Speaker 3: that ain't fully guaranteed in my life.
Speaker 2: Right, And it has worked.
Speaker 3: A thirty six year old quarterback coming out of killes
Speaker 3: almost got two hundred million. Desperate people will do desperate
Speaker 3: things in the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2: But you know I won't say that.
Speaker 4: The reason why, don't get me wrong, It was I
Speaker 4: was wondering what was the whole, the whole hoopla about
Speaker 4: Kirk last year, I mean yesterday, I was laying the
Speaker 4: couch and I'm just seeing flies going on off.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why am I mad that Kirk got picked up?
Speaker 4: Then I saw the number and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: But what made me say? Oh? It's cause I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: a hundred games. You can't be mad. No, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying you.
Speaker 4: I'm not mad because you know, we love paying guys.
Speaker 4: I'd love to see guys get that money. You know,
Speaker 4: I was coming to hear the third Now I just
Speaker 4: get money, you know what I mean? That was like,
Speaker 4: that's time to go. But you can't be mad if
Speaker 4: that's the number for that spot. If I'm the starting quarterback,
Speaker 4: this is the number. The number says this is what
Speaker 4: I should be getting. So if I'm capable. And then
Speaker 4: you got to Kirk's credit you and you coming to
Speaker 4: a system where these guys know who you are, these
Speaker 4: this this coaching style. I'm like, if there's any guy
Speaker 4: here who can run this system that we run, it's
Speaker 4: that guy. And if it's any guy that I know
Speaker 4: that's smart, that's intelligent, that's gonna keep a level head
Speaker 4: that has been through the fire man.
Speaker 2: This man have been through the wringer.
Speaker 4: You and me talking about from the things he went
Speaker 4: through here and Washington being behind r G three, then
Speaker 4: getting the starting position, then sit here not getting taken
Speaker 4: care of it, and have to go through that year
Speaker 4: of being a free agent then leaving. Like, all you
Speaker 4: ever hear about Kirk Cousins ain't winning games. Okay, last
Speaker 4: time I heard it's a team spot. Last time I heard,
Speaker 4: you know, But I understand what you're saying. Look, the
Speaker 4: one thing I've seen everywhere he's been the receivers putting
Speaker 4: up numbers.
Speaker 2: So obviously he's doing something. He's doing what he's supposed
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's more on the team and
Speaker 4: not on Kirk. And that's all you ever hear. But
Speaker 4: the thing that stands out to me the most, and
Speaker 4: this is what I was telling my homeboys yesterday through
Speaker 4: the text messages and they was going crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, everybody has a point.
Speaker 4: Yes, who would thought Kirk Cousins would be getting this
Speaker 4: much money coming off of achilles being this old.
Speaker 2: But don't hate the player, hate the game.
Speaker 4: And I think right now the game states that as
Speaker 4: a starting quarterback in this league.
Speaker 3: You posted, yes you do, and you have spoken them.
Speaker 3: Preacher Santana Moss has spoken, But boy, I rebuke you.
Speaker 3: I rebuke you in the name right now because the
Speaker 3: one thing I know about Kirk, because you know what,
Speaker 3: Kirk and Deck, they're not so different, you and I.
Speaker 3: They got the same, dude, because you know why they
Speaker 3: are regular season.
Speaker 1: He wrote, gonna stop and I'm gonna stop here right
Speaker 1: now because in that division though.
Speaker 2: Oh hes gonna win a division, Kirk gonna win at theventure.
Speaker 1: So if I if I'm Atlanta, I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: a fair price to ensure we win the division with
Speaker 1: a team that is crazy talented.
Speaker 2: He already got his grill. Put In said. You know
Speaker 2: he get in good. I can cut on the road.
Speaker 4: He go gonna play on his rope and he fits
Speaker 4: in good with the Atlanta culture.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to do.
Speaker 4: You know as a quarterback, your record in the league,
Speaker 4: as a quarterback, you'll playoff record.
Speaker 2: I know what it is. You got in for four
Speaker 2: something like that. He got one more win. I won
Speaker 2: two games. I want two games. You got one more win.
Speaker 3: My fault thirty six years old, one playoff win, two
Speaker 3: hundred millions.
Speaker 2: By the fact I got three, I forget.
Speaker 1: I'm say I'll say, I'll say this a better guy.
Speaker 2: Kirk Is.
Speaker 1: Last year before the Achilles injury, he was he was
Speaker 1: for sure a top ten player at the position. He
Speaker 1: would do it so and then you look at the
Speaker 1: year before, probably top twelve. And so he is, even
Speaker 1: though it's late in his career, ascending. And I think
Speaker 1: when you look at players with his skill set, look.
Speaker 2: At Joe talking, Joe, we talk guys.
Speaker 1: Guys who are older have a you know, like have
Speaker 1: the ability to play longer, doesn't. And so I think
Speaker 1: when you look at Drake London, when you look at
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, they're gonna be able to draft. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to draft somebody at eight to help him
Speaker 1: out offensively.
Speaker 2: Who do you draft?
Speaker 4: The office the last time and you're running back already
Speaker 4: said he going for two bills, He going for two.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, I just think like it's a
Speaker 1: good situation. It's a talented team, this team in the NFC.
Speaker 1: And so to me, if I'm if I'm Arthur Blank,
Speaker 1: if I'm I don't know who the gym is there anymore,
Speaker 1: But if I'm him, I'm like, this is the move
Speaker 1: because it gets us, it puts us who else who
Speaker 1: else is ahead of them now in that division. No
Speaker 1: nobody win the division. They're sure to playoff spot and
Speaker 1: who knows what happens in the playoffs. You make a run,
Speaker 1: and I will say, Kirk Man, he can deal. Now,
Speaker 1: you can deal. He makes big time NFL throws. So
Speaker 1: I think if the situation is right, this opportunity could
Speaker 1: be there, could be awesome for him. And it's just
Speaker 1: to me, it's just I say, is he healthy?
Speaker 2: That's the thing I'm just want to say.
Speaker 4: I said, the only thing that they have to worry
Speaker 4: about coming in where how far along is he from
Speaker 4: that injury?
Speaker 2: From?
Speaker 4: I think if they fix an achilles, like they fixing
Speaker 4: their cs now.
Speaker 1: The tyrope, what's the surgery now?
Speaker 2: Something they doing something disgusting. He's gonna be He's gonna
Speaker 2: be told.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I need to drop a new movie like
Speaker 4: woolf of Wild Streak two.
Speaker 1: Is Kirk Couz like his biopic? Yes, it's like him
Speaker 1: just in every meeting, just like Guaranteed.
Speaker 4: No No, Like when they say what you think about
Speaker 4: the deal, Kirk, hold on, let me call my age.
Speaker 1: Tell them all, yeah, we're happy for you. Kirk, go
Speaker 1: get that money.
Speaker 2: That's relacious brother.
Speaker 1: So the other thing Russell Wilson at the end of
Speaker 1: the spectrum man point two million dollars.
Speaker 2: This one guy got two hundred. The other guy got
Speaker 2: one point.
Speaker 1: But I love this for the Steelers because it for him,
Speaker 1: and I love it for Russell too, and I saw
Speaker 1: I love it for Russell because he's soil can paid.
Speaker 2: He's still getting parted from the.
Speaker 4: You're talking about to Bronco paying him eighty five million
Speaker 4: to lead. Man, that's just like your mama say, you
Speaker 4: know what, get out of my house and take this.
Speaker 4: Ru's basically gonna be sitting in Pittsburgh, whether he's the
Speaker 4: starter or not, which I which I think gonna be
Speaker 4: that he's coming there to start. But if not, if
Speaker 4: they still find something, man, he's gonna be sitting there. Man,
Speaker 4: they paying me thirty I'm gonna just use this right here,
Speaker 4: this pocket change.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna use it at one point too. Whatever.
Speaker 4: Hospital, Man, you're getting thirty eight million from somebody else
Speaker 4: to do nothing, to not play for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost not.
Speaker 4: It almost shows you how it feels to be a
Speaker 4: head coach that get fired. I mean, ain't gonna be
Speaker 4: thirty eight million, but it's some of them coaches. The
Speaker 4: guy named from Jimbo Fisher. Jimbo Fisher got seventy something.
Speaker 2: To go home. Yeah, so get off my landing.
Speaker 4: It just shows you where we act now with this sport,
Speaker 4: you know, with our money to waste, Like it's money
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 2: Man's it's really monopoly.
Speaker 4: It's really it's really to the point of where, man, look,
Speaker 4: if this piece ain't helping me, I'm gonna get rid
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 4: I don't care how much I owe you, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got you put them on, put them on our thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: You know we'll be paying them, but I don't need you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna move on. So that's what it shows me.
Speaker 4: And I just feel when somebody get humbled the way
Speaker 4: I feel like Russ has been humbled out because I
Speaker 4: don't know, get me wrong, like I feel like he's
Speaker 4: always been a guy that's understanding it.
Speaker 2: And he shot his shot in Denver. He came in
Speaker 2: there and said, hold that's right. Let me not even
Speaker 2: that part of it.
Speaker 4: Let me see if I can get some of the
Speaker 4: things that I've seen other quarterbacks. Yeah, at my at
Speaker 4: this tier that I'm on, received without saying let me,
Speaker 4: let me put that on my list.
Speaker 2: My checklist.
Speaker 4: But he got ridiculed for it, and I think only
Speaker 4: because he wasn't successful. If he came in there there
Speaker 4: to play well, they would have said nothing by him
Speaker 4: asking for his own office. They would say nothing by
Speaker 4: him person for other treatment. It's not like he didn't
Speaker 4: take those guys else. We're in train with him. Yes,
Speaker 4: he did everything that most quarterbacks do when they come
Speaker 4: to a team if they're on their other team. But
Speaker 4: they ridicule him about everything because of them not being successful.
Speaker 4: So I take I take it that he taking a
Speaker 4: lot of the blame outside of what Hackett deserves. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because he was still there and he played much better
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 2: So I'm happy for him.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: I think he got humble. Everybody don't like it. But
Speaker 4: when you get humble, now you got nothing but up
Speaker 4: from there.
Speaker 3: To me, I can see him right now packing his
Speaker 3: club in Denver. Look back till Sierra, grab the kids,
Speaker 3: let's ride.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna bounce back.
Speaker 3: George Pickings, they run gag, gonna do a great job
Speaker 3: of hiding him in that defense.
Speaker 2: They went to the playoff with that team with no
Speaker 2: quarterback last year's got to think too, man.
Speaker 4: I think when you get around coaching staffs like the
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: Like Tom, it reminds me of where he come from
Speaker 2: in Seattle.
Speaker 4: You have a when you have a foundation there that
Speaker 4: these coaches know how to coach the game. Like that's
Speaker 4: some of the things that people take for granted. Like
Speaker 4: I've been on teams where you be like it's an
Speaker 4: one thing why we're not.
Speaker 2: Successful, Like look who we got leading? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: It starts from up and people think it's start from
Speaker 4: or just having players.
Speaker 2: No, we've seen that.
Speaker 4: We've done that too many times here getting the guys,
Speaker 4: but not having the people to coach these guys.
Speaker 2: It's all about that coaching staff.
Speaker 4: And I think he's going to an organization that one
Speaker 4: knows how to win. Then a stab that two at
Speaker 4: the end of the day don't get the best out
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: What they want him.
Speaker 3: I don't think Champagne ever wanted Russ Like it's a
Speaker 3: player just to be wanted.
Speaker 2: I can get comfortable in play some football go along with.
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Speaker 1: all right, So now it's the free agent Frenzy. Yeah
Speaker 1: all right, So we have a lot.
Speaker 2: Of what we bring. Someone phone literally pick up my phone.
Speaker 2: It's the birthday.
Speaker 4: Someone sends me talking about Kirk and I'm like, we
Speaker 4: literally talking about that right now, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I love you so allegedly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've made some signings and as you know, we
Speaker 1: can't confirm these, but you know Adam Schaeffner, Kym John,
Speaker 1: I said, Joe John Kim, Nikki giavoliv all reported these signings.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of these players and how
Speaker 1: you guys are feeling about this, right yeah, And where
Speaker 1: do you think the direction is going for the team
Speaker 1: and how optimistic are you?
Speaker 2: I am very very optimistic.
Speaker 4: I love these I love these pics because we needed
Speaker 4: to fill roster spots and we need to fill them
Speaker 4: with quality. See, sometimes it ain't about the quantity, it's
Speaker 4: the quality. No, we got the best center that was
Speaker 4: in free agency. Nobody, nobody will say it's a competition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be honest. Now think about this.
Speaker 3: Now, only did we get the best center, we weakened
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: We took their center.
Speaker 3: Right Starter, you're putting him aside, Sam Cosmi, legit pro
Speaker 3: bowling to me. Now on the other side, you got
Speaker 3: Nick al Geddy.
Speaker 2: Am I saying it? Right of Getty?
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Starter, super Bowl everything. Now I'm only
Speaker 3: left on this office a line to worry about the.
Speaker 2: Two tackles positions. I solidified a room.
Speaker 3: I solidified room because the one thing we could not
Speaker 3: have is a young quarterback and a young center. That
Speaker 3: would not a win. Well, I need somebody to make
Speaker 3: these calls. He's gonna tightly, gonna make these calls. I
Speaker 3: think we win in there. Frank Louvo. They gonna love him,
Speaker 3: They gonna love him. Listen, I watched some stuff from
Speaker 3: the h This boy swaps paint. He's mean, he's smart,
Speaker 3: he can blitz in. One of the best blitzing middle
Speaker 3: linebackers in the game. From what I hear in Carolina,
Speaker 3: he was the heart and soul of this team.
Speaker 4: When I start to hear stuff like that, I know
Speaker 4: you can't go nowhere without your heart. So he bringing
Speaker 4: that heart in the soul right in this building. Like starter.
Speaker 4: So another starter right there. And then zach Ertz. We
Speaker 4: knew were gonna end up with a young tight end.
Speaker 4: I need an older tight end and take teach this
Speaker 4: guy how to be a pro.
Speaker 1: You think you're gonna drove somebody or one of the
Speaker 1: young guys, Lady.
Speaker 3: Have we got possibility either or but we got somebody
Speaker 3: in here to fill in the gap. Um strong, he
Speaker 3: gonna start, he will be a starter on this team.
Speaker 3: And then you bring in a backup like Colin Farrell.
Speaker 3: He literally was number for a pick of his draft.
Speaker 3: Hasn't really paying out guy where he wanted to be.
Speaker 3: But sometime being in a new place, new chance, gives
Speaker 3: you a new chance to grow up as a player.
Speaker 3: So I think everybody that they brought in, even met Manchester,
Speaker 3: the kicker.
Speaker 1: We brought him the kicker. You watch a lot of kickers.
Speaker 4: Now I'm saying I know about this with him. I
Speaker 4: need to look at some kickers after what he did last.
Speaker 3: Time, saying he was a kick in Denver and you
Speaker 3: know how it is in Devil but it's one.
Speaker 2: Of the easiest places to kick because of the He
Speaker 2: was thirty thirty seven last year, thirty thirty seven.
Speaker 4: He was thirty five thirty five, Yeah, thirty thirty five
Speaker 4: rest points.
Speaker 2: So he don't want his points.
Speaker 1: A kicker. I'm I'm made to break it. I'm not
Speaker 1: watching killer, listen, I am because we don't need a
Speaker 1: kicker till we need a kicker.
Speaker 4: Then we about to go to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 4: he go the kicker up to mister kick.
Speaker 2: Now that damn it.
Speaker 3: Man, it's like then, no, no, I like to look
Speaker 3: at it right now. So we got a start kicker.
Speaker 3: We kind of solidified the offensive line. I got me
Speaker 3: him in the linebacker. We always We've been talking about
Speaker 3: linebacker since it started. And I got some people that
Speaker 3: fill in gaps. So I think we won.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love it, don't I don't think
Speaker 4: you need me to break it down again.
Speaker 2: Fred is such a great job.
Speaker 4: I mean, but honestly, I mean, you know now, it
Speaker 4: was a great job. I just think when you look
Speaker 4: at any time you're trying to, you know, have structure
Speaker 4: in anything you do in life, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's all about the base, the foundation, and I think
Speaker 4: this is a core of players that you can really,
Speaker 4: you know, structure your team off of. You know, rather
Speaker 4: these guys end up being starters or being great pickupst
Speaker 4: or whatever it may be, you need bodies, you see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So more than anything, you know, folks,
Speaker 4: I've been loving everything about this off season ever since
Speaker 4: we knew we was getting the new coaching staff, just
Speaker 4: knowing that it might not be till you like it.
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's best. I hate when I hear all
Speaker 4: these fans ready to have a parade, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: I hate when I.
Speaker 4: Hear the notion of hey, we're gonna be thirteen and
Speaker 4: in fold this year. Like, I don't want to hear
Speaker 4: none of that. I like what I'm hearing because it's
Speaker 4: people on the fence, it's people that's riding with It's
Speaker 4: people just don't know. And I think it's best to
Speaker 4: not know and let these guys go out there and
Speaker 4: show us what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Show us how to build a team.
Speaker 4: One of the key things that Adam or Peter's talked
Speaker 4: about when he first came in, he said, yeah, we're
Speaker 4: not trying to built to win tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah for the loan.
Speaker 4: We want to win us want we want to win
Speaker 4: for years and years to come.
Speaker 2: So this is how you start this.
Speaker 4: This is what you go get the fundamental pieces to
Speaker 4: your team, the structure, what you need more. What we
Speaker 4: talk about year and year, all weekend and we go
Speaker 4: out throughout the season, the trenches. How we gonna How
Speaker 4: can sat Tanna Moss get off in the offense If
Speaker 4: you're not protecting my quarterback, how can you know? How
Speaker 4: can we protect the quarterback to even get off to
Speaker 4: you know, get his guys off if you not protect him.
Speaker 4: Same way on defensive side, when we lost our two
Speaker 4: edge rushers, we saw how how how how little we were,
Speaker 4: how small we were. We like, oh man, we thought
Speaker 4: those two guys inside was everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are.
Speaker 4: But without those guys on our side, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, you need help. So and not to say
Speaker 4: these guys not to say Armstrong gonna come in and
Speaker 4: be that kind of a.
Speaker 2: Player, saying.
Speaker 4: It's getting bodies, fundamental pieces that can help you win.
Speaker 4: And like we know from just watching what Quinn has
Speaker 4: done defensively, when you get your guys you want because
Speaker 4: obviously these guys are handpicking these guys saying, guess what
Speaker 4: he can play on my defense? Guess what he could
Speaker 4: be a part of what I here. He knows what
Speaker 4: these guys can do from watching film. You know they're
Speaker 4: not just picking up guys because they on the market.
Speaker 4: You know, we watched enough film on them. We understand
Speaker 4: that they are valuable pieces and that could be an
Speaker 4: asset to us. Now you get them in your building
Speaker 4: and then you coach them up how to play in
Speaker 4: your scheme. You coach them up how to win and
Speaker 4: how to be successful in the way you do things.
Speaker 4: So I love it, and I think we're addressing everywhere
Speaker 4: before we even started really spending some money. You see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like we spent some money, but money
Speaker 4: spend no money, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: love everything about that, and I think that just shows you.
Speaker 4: And like I say, this is premature, so I'm not
Speaker 4: ever foring to sit out there and jump the gun.
Speaker 4: I don't like jumping the gun, but for right now,
Speaker 4: what I'm looking at is have me with the notion, like,
Speaker 4: let me sit back and watch very closely of what
Speaker 4: true real organizations do when they have that GM in place,
Speaker 4: to go out there and say, this is what we need,
Speaker 4: is how we're gonna do it, and we're gonna slowly
Speaker 4: pick the little you know what I mean, find the
Speaker 4: guys that's available, and build what we're trying to build.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one hundred percent right. And I think you know,
Speaker 1: when I was in San France in twenty seventeen, they
Speaker 1: were part of a rebuild and Adam was part of
Speaker 1: that rebuilding and they handle it very similar to this, right, So,
Speaker 1: like if you look at the Washington commanders. These guys
Speaker 1: that we've allegedly signed, you know, Dorrince Armstrong, just based
Speaker 1: on contract structure, seems to be a guy that went
Speaker 1: around long term, right, Tyler Yottish, Frank Luvu, Right, all
Speaker 1: those guys seem.
Speaker 2: To be you pronounce that name again, yadach Ya Gottish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was killing it.
Speaker 1: So those those three guys are kind of like long term,
Speaker 1: seemingly based on contract value, kind of long term solutions here.
Speaker 1: The other guys are on like one year deals essentially, right,
Speaker 1: Even Austin Eckler's on essentially what amounts to a one
Speaker 1: year deal. But I think what you're getting is you're
Speaker 1: getting guys that, like zach Uritz is a great example
Speaker 1: a guy that's been around, done and he understands professionalism.
Speaker 1: He can help mentor a young room. And even if
Speaker 1: he's not great at like mentoring or coaching the way
Speaker 1: some of these veterans are, you have a standard of
Speaker 1: performance and a standard of professionalism that's in the building, right,
Speaker 1: same thing with Austin Eckler, And I think getting guys
Speaker 1: like this in the building is extremely important. So again,
Speaker 1: like they have some pieces here that I think are
Speaker 1: long term. Some guys that are shorter term solutions, but
Speaker 1: like you were saying, Fred, at least that allows you
Speaker 1: to kind of tick boxes and checkboxes as we progress
Speaker 1: to kind of finalizing this roster. So's it's really exciting
Speaker 1: and I love this style. Like this is more general.
Speaker 1: I love the style. A guy that got I got it.
Speaker 1: Like when you watch Dorin Charmstrong, that dude finish his place,
Speaker 1: When you watch Frank Loeve, who dude finish his place,
Speaker 1: Tyler Beidis finishes, Nick Aldretti finishes plays right, those guys
Speaker 1: and Zach Ertzman he is you know he might be
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Fame is Zach er So? I
Speaker 1: think just getting again. Remember they talked about the type
Speaker 1: of guy they wanted in here. I feel like there
Speaker 1: wasn't one time where I was watching film last night
Speaker 1: I was like this guy, isn't that? Yeah, they're all
Speaker 1: and I think that is something that's so refreshed. The
Speaker 1: vision they say something, the vision coincides with it. And again,
Speaker 1: these guys got to come out and play. You never
Speaker 1: know how it's going to go. But as of today,
Speaker 1: based on what they did last year, you feel very
Speaker 1: very team Steel.
Speaker 3: So incomplete like we're feeling in gaps, filling in gaps.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 5: I want to let you know about something exciting that
Speaker 5: we're doing. We're doing free agency Fridays.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, you guys don't know about this.
Speaker 5: We're going to be promoting it soon. Free Agency Fridays.
Speaker 5: As soon as a free agent comes in, puts pen
Speaker 5: to paper, which is the room right next to where
Speaker 5: we are. They're walking into the studio. They're sitting down
Speaker 5: with Brian Colbert. They're getting an interview.
Speaker 2: Okay, right away, it's going to be only.
Speaker 5: Commanders talk like we don't care about you, see, only that,
Speaker 5: and fans get to ask some questions.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: So the fans that are.
Speaker 5: Listening to this on YouTube or on Spotify, put a
Speaker 5: question in for any free agent sign we have. We'll
Speaker 5: cipher through them and we will give them those questions.
Speaker 5: You'll get your question answered by our free agents that
Speaker 5: come in.
Speaker 3: Drop know the fan base and the fan base to
Speaker 3: get to know them. That's the hardest thing about free
Speaker 3: agency is going to another place every Friday.
Speaker 5: Every Friday will drop a free agency Friday.
Speaker 1: Let's gonna be fency. So the other thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to say as I also liked that they have covered
Speaker 1: up a lot of l's so you don't have to draft.
Speaker 1: Thank you now can draft draft best player available. And
Speaker 1: that is something that.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you put that out there because that's a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't look at it. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: listening to radio talk this morning. They're calling in one.
Speaker 2: Day that dude say that.
Speaker 4: Dude told JP and I love JP be mentioning JP
Speaker 4: show is one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 2: I love and JP does such a great job.
Speaker 4: And I think it was Landfield that said this had
Speaker 4: to be the all time worst caller ever.
Speaker 2: Dude like JPO being a drama queen. You all ain't hyping.
Speaker 4: Up everybody we get so so they was like, hold on,
Speaker 4: why are you mad at me?
Speaker 2: I didn't pick the guy. He was just talking.
Speaker 4: He was going on and on, and the dude had
Speaker 4: he saw that he made no sense. He sound like
Speaker 4: he was drinking or something like that. But it was
Speaker 4: just funny to hear people take on certain certain moves.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, nothing that he was making
Speaker 2: them out have.
Speaker 4: He was just talking about Mariota sucked and Sam Howe
Speaker 4: is sucking.
Speaker 2: And you can tell a guy who don't watch.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it was just comical because
Speaker 4: it was the way they received the information from him.
Speaker 2: Like Okay, all right, buddy, we're gonna be gone with you.
Speaker 4: And it was just like man like folks really be
Speaker 4: you know, round up about stuff.
Speaker 2: Don't have no context in what's going on. Barber shop
Speaker 2: music what I call.
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Speaker 1: So anyway, let's talk about this after free agency. The
Speaker 1: free agency friends, it was just so good. We're probably
Speaker 1: going to sign smart people. Yeah, of course, we let's
Speaker 1: talk about this in the draft. Fred, and I know
Speaker 1: you've got strong opinions, and I'm kind of curious to
Speaker 1: hear what you got to say about it, because you
Speaker 1: don't talk. You don't talk. You don't talk as much
Speaker 1: as Fred about this. Don't give your opinions so freely. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So after free agency, should we trade up or trade down?
Speaker 1: Let's make a case for both ye and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this some more depth. Fred on Ticket
Speaker 1: to the Draft, and we're doing a mock draft where
Speaker 1: we trade up. We mock draft, mockamentary. Yeah, the last
Speaker 1: mock draft that we traded down, so that you jeck
Speaker 1: those out. Ticket to the Draft. But Fred, what do
Speaker 1: we got? What do you think you want to do?
Speaker 1: You guys want to take sides? Do you want to
Speaker 1: be No?
Speaker 2: No, no, both us gonna give both of them all. So
Speaker 2: check this out.
Speaker 3: If I trade up, it's only for to bring the
Speaker 3: sweet Princess and Moon to home.
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, like, you know how I feel about this.
Speaker 4: I believe if you think it's one of those guys
Speaker 4: in the draft.
Speaker 2: Go get him.
Speaker 3: If that's how you feel about him, if you could
Speaker 3: change your franchise for the next fifteen years, go get him.
Speaker 4: It ain't never what you got too much. What you're
Speaker 4: giving for that though, what we had willing to give
Speaker 4: for that one man. I'm willing to give Chicago. They
Speaker 4: got the first pick, we got the second, so I
Speaker 4: shouldn't have to give you too much. We want to
Speaker 4: give you. We're giving you our picking a player. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you this, this number two. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give you.
Speaker 2: My second round pick, the first pick in the second round.
Speaker 1: Or exchanging picks. You get the second round pick, right,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 3: Get this, you get to a pick from us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get No, you're gonna get my second. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get your first, the second pick and the dragon. Alright,
Speaker 3: we're gonna trade throws.
Speaker 2: Trade.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you my first pick in the second
Speaker 4: round because we got two of those. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: will give you I will give you a player. I
Speaker 4: will give you next year's.
Speaker 1: Two, next year's two. So away they bite on that,
Speaker 1: and a player too. Two's who's player? Who's the player?
Speaker 1: Who's the player?
Speaker 4: Just just throwing is out there, John Allley, I gotta
Speaker 4: have somebody worth worth something, somebody else want you know.
Speaker 1: That's okay, Just to be clear that that's not happening. No,
Speaker 1: this is hypothetically.
Speaker 2: This is hypothetically.
Speaker 1: Everyone calm down, and I give you it's.
Speaker 3: Your second round pick and a former first round of
Speaker 3: it's still at the pig in this game. Just to
Speaker 3: move up one spot, I think you'll do that, especially
Speaker 3: if you're playing on keeping just in fields.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, all right, So I don't think I
Speaker 1: still don't know if that would be enough because what
Speaker 1: I what I think it would take is three firsts
Speaker 1: to one spot. So that's all I'm saying. I'm always saying.
Speaker 1: So I think it would take three first and maybe
Speaker 1: a second. So that's and that's how draft pricing goes.
Speaker 1: And so is that here?
Speaker 3: I see if we was at the seventh peak, we're
Speaker 3: talking about one spot.
Speaker 1: But why would we spread this? Is so this is
Speaker 1: what I was having this conversation.
Speaker 5: Hold on, I want you guys to table this because
Speaker 5: we're gonna do this one to take it to the
Speaker 5: draft podcast. We're gonna have this exact debate with the
Speaker 5: two of them, So let's save it for that. If
Speaker 5: you want to hear them argue about the cost of
Speaker 5: the number one pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't take it to the draft.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll take you the draft podcast. Okay, So whatever
Speaker 1: the price is to trade.
Speaker 2: Up, I'm willing to pay for killing.
Speaker 4: Now if I trade down, there's the other option here, Yeah,
Speaker 4: trade down, trade down.
Speaker 2: If I trade.
Speaker 3: Down, I'm only doing it because I know I'm trading
Speaker 3: for Justin Fields if I trade down, because now I'm
Speaker 3: finished trying to stock players like that.
Speaker 2: Because now if.
Speaker 3: I trade down, un let's say ten, and believe me
Speaker 3: what you just said, they're gonna have to do for one,
Speaker 3: you have to do similar for two. So yeah, you're
Speaker 3: gonna how you're finish. Give me your next year is first,
Speaker 3: You're gonna give me This year is first. You're probably
Speaker 3: finna give me your second round this year. Ain't your
Speaker 3: second round next year?
Speaker 1: Probably one more, and honestly probably one. It's if you're
Speaker 1: moving up. Let's say like Atlanta doesn't need this anymore.
Speaker 1: But hypothetically, if Atlanta was moving up from eighty, the
Speaker 1: number being thrown around was three firsts and three seconds, right,
Speaker 1: So then and they've taken care of their quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the next team is like, I, so what dinver,
Speaker 1: we're at fourteen? At fourteen, god, trying to move up?
Speaker 3: Now I got my quarterback, so I ain't got to
Speaker 3: go quarterback hunt.
Speaker 2: Now I can get one of the better.
Speaker 3: Tackles in this draft. I can leave here with the
Speaker 3: brock Boyers. I can leave here with players filling gaps.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I like, I like the whole trading down because
Speaker 4: I see that can get done more than moving up
Speaker 4: moving up. I've never had a notion to move up
Speaker 4: unless I just knew what was clear cut. We needed
Speaker 4: that one position, We needed that one guy, which I
Speaker 4: would have hoped.
Speaker 2: That guy just failed them to our lap.
Speaker 4: But with all that man said, I'm like, I like
Speaker 4: where we're at, where the way things hypothetically might panned out,
Speaker 4: it might be because we have our guy, or we
Speaker 4: have the guy already that we're gonna get. You know,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be. He's gonna land right there for us
Speaker 4: to go ahead and get him. So we probably ain't
Speaker 4: gonna make those moves.
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