1 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Boom or not to boom. Welcome to the show, ladies 2 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. My name is Ben. Ben. You startled me. 3 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, nol. It was not my intention to startle 4 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: you. You You startled me so much that I forgot to 5 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: announce my name. But you did it for me, so 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: thank you for that. I know how you did that, 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: though you dropped a bomb on me, Ben, you dropped 8 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: the bomb on me. I just go beat. It's going 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: to be. And of course we would be remiss if 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: we did not shout out our super producer, good friend 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Casey Pegrum who is uh who is sipping a coffee 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: and gave us a cheerful a cheerful nod and toast 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: a good day, a good day. Yeah. And we're at 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: the very end of the years we record this right yeah, yeah, 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean the magic of podcast post production will be 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: giving you this episode later, but it is in fact 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: very close to the end of the year as we 18 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: sit and record this right now. Yes, absolutely, and here 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: in the podcast world, as we approached the end of 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: the year, in vacation times and stuff, things can get 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: a little hectic, So both of us are a little 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: bit punchy and filled with some nervous energy as we're 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: finishing everything up this week, right, really, and we can 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: relate to this idea of multitasking and having to really 25 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: scramble to get things done. And such was the case 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: during the Cold War when America was gripped by paranoia 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: surrounding a potential nuclear war with Russia, and part of 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: that involved the clandestine um transportation of atomic bombs over 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: American soil. And again with that theme of multitasking and rambling, 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, mistakes are made, Yes, yes, oh gosh, 31 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: what an infamous understatement. Yes, sometimes mistakes were made. Multitasking 32 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: is tricky. And when you feel like you are juggling 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: something while you're driving something, while you're also doing a 34 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: very difficult math in your head, maybe you begin to 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: feel a little bit like, uh, something approaching a pilot. 36 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: And imagine if one of those things you're juggling was 37 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: a seventies six hundred pound or three point four metric 38 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: ton nuclear warhead. Once upon a time, Friends and neighbors. 39 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: In January of nineteen fifty three, the greg family moved 40 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: into a home in a rural part of eastern South Carolina, 41 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: and it was on land that their family had owned 42 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: for a century. Would you describe it as idyllic, Yes, yeah, 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: bucolic even Uh, they had no idea that five years 44 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: later they would er a very strange, distinctive and dangerous 45 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: honor by becoming the first and only American family to 46 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: survive the first and only atomic bomb dropped on American 47 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: soil by Americans. Are pal Lori L. Dove wrote this 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: great article for How Stuff Works, and she did not 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: bury the leave. The title of the article is the U. S. 50 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Air Force dropped an atomic bomb on South Carolina, and that, friends, 51 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: is the subject of today's story, and it's and we 52 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: want to be clear, it is an accidental bombing. It 53 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: wasn't as if the Air Force said, you know who's 54 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: really bugging us, the Gregg family. So on March eleventh 55 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty eight, two of the children of Walter 56 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Greg Helen aged six and Francis, age nine, we're playing 57 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: with their nine year old cousin, Ella Davies. They were 58 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: just paling around. They had a nice little playhouse in 59 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the backyard near a garden patch. And uh, the father 60 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Walt here along with their brother, Walter Jr. We're working 61 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: on some projects in a nearby tools shed. Yes, a 62 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: lovely day, Yeah, what could go wrong? You can almost 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: hear the light music in the background right but elsewhere 64 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: high in the air. At four nineteen pm, a member 65 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: of the crew of the U. S. Air Force B 66 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: forty seven bomber futs things up. A little mistakes were made, 67 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: and the crew member accidentally released a nuclear weapon that 68 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: landed on the girl's playhouse while they were about two 69 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: hundred feet away and the families nearby garden, creating a 70 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: massive crater that was had a circumference of about fifty 71 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: oh and was more than thirty ft deep out of nowhere. 72 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Just but you know, a more a more dramatic sound, 73 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: significantly more dramatic. This created like a shock wave that's 74 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: cracked windows and shook homes in the nearby community of 75 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: Mars Bluff, and it flattened there this playhouse just to nothing, 76 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: and there were chickens that were described as having been vaporized. 77 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: And it basically just put a hurting on their entire property. 78 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: All of the buildings, their outbuildings became uninhabitable. It literally 79 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: changed the slope of their land such that the foundation 80 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: of the home was no longer secure and it injured 81 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: at least somewhat everyone around, right. Yeah, Luckily it was 82 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: not a fatal injury for everyone, but the it's difficult, 83 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: although we laugh about it, Oh, it's difficult to fathom 84 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: the amount of emotional distress this would cause. Right, So, 85 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: before we dive into detail about the specs and stats 86 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: of this bomb, let's look at it was happening that day, right, 87 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: How did this crew get up in the air? Where 88 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: were they? Where were they coming from? Where are they going? 89 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: Earlier that day, the crew was part of a training 90 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: exercise that would require the bomb to be loaded into 91 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: an airplane and flown from Savannah, Georgia, across the Atlantic 92 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: to England. This was a mock mission. Think of it 93 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: like a training exercise. The operation snow Flurry is what 94 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: it was called. And so Captain Earl Kohler, who was 95 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: the pilot, Captain Charles Woodroffe who was the co pilot, 96 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Captain Bruce Kulta, the navigator, bombardier, and crew chief Sergeant 97 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Robert screp Talk had arrived at Hunter Air Force Base 98 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 1: just outside of Savannah to fly in this operation scrap Talk. 99 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: That is a fascinating sounding name. If it was just 100 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: h just scrap talk instead of Robert script talk. It 101 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: sounds like a character in a sci fire fantasy film. 102 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: You're like Star Trek scrap talk, lord of the igneous 103 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: rock people in this world. He's in Air Force pilot. 104 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Uh so as noll As he said, what was the 105 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: name of that operation again? Operations snow flurring, operations snow flurry. 106 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: They carefully load the bomb onto the plane, takes an hour. 107 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: They put into a shackle mechanism that's designed to keep 108 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: it in place, but they had a difficult time with 109 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: a steel locking pin. Yeah. They actually noticed that there 110 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: was like a light of fault light that started to glow, 111 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: and that told them that the bomb's locking pin had 112 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: not properly been engaged. So Navigator Captain Bruce Kulka went 113 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: to take a look. So whild captain Navigator Captain Bruce 114 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Kulka is investigating this light and finding the source of 115 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: the fault. He accidentally hit the emergency release pin as 116 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: he reached around the bomb to pull himself up. The 117 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: device hit the bombay doors. It was really a pin. 118 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: It was like a like a like a lever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 119 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: and he uh when he did this, when he hit 120 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: this it forced the doors open, and can you imagine, no, 121 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the look on this guy's face as he watched it 122 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: leave the plane. Yeah, I mean the way I've seen it. 123 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: As he was kind of crawling on top of the bomb, 124 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: sort of had himself positioned like arms and legs spread 125 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: trying to get to this pen. And then when he 126 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: sort of lost his footing, he reached out and grabbed 127 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: this release lever and all hell broke loose. And yeah, 128 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: he apparently as that bomb fell out from under him, 129 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: he was left. He was watched it, but he was 130 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: left suspending himself from that handle and and whatever else 131 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: he had a foothold and a grasp on there and 132 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: just watching, looking straight down as that bomb hit those 133 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: bay doors. Eventually the weight forced them open and then 134 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: it was bombs away. And we're very lucky that he 135 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: didn't fall out as well, right, because he's as as 136 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: he said, he's staying there. Picture a letter X, just 137 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: hanging out with nothing between the ground and himself except 138 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: for a very dangerous drop through naked air. So back 139 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: to the idyllic greg family homestead. The children are playing, 140 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: the boys and and the father are are at work 141 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: in the shed form right, and they look and they 142 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: see this bomber flying overhead. But that would not have 143 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: been an unusual side at the time, especially not in 144 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: the nineties exactly, because these kinds of runs were pretty common. 145 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: So when this chaos went down, Mr greg was was 146 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: quoted as saying he thought that the plane had crashed. 147 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: Can you imagine just the chaos that would have ensued, 148 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and just not being able to fully wrap your head 149 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: around what had happened, and just trying to figure out 150 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: the possibilities, And certainly the first one the go to 151 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: would not be Oh, the Air Force accidentally dropped an 152 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: atomic bomb on my kid's playhouse, right, And so, as 153 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: we said, all five members of the family were injured, 154 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: as was the cousin Ella, but they had no idea 155 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: what was happening. Wasn't until later that night, when they 156 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: were crashing at the house of their family doctor, that 157 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: they learned it had been a bomb dropped by us 158 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: by the U. S. Air Force. Now here's the thing. 159 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: The most serious injury sustained in this event was the cousin, 160 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: who I think got somewhere in the neighborhood of thirty 161 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: one stitches. And you may ask, but Ben Noel, this 162 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: was a nuclear warhead that was dropped on this family's house. 163 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Where's the mushroom cloud? What about the radiation? Here's the 164 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: nuclear fallout? Why does Mars Bluff still exist? Where where 165 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: are the ghouls? Why is this not you know, like 166 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: mad Max Overnight, especially considering that this Mark six bomb 167 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: was actually larger than its predecessor, the Part four or 168 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: Fat Man used in World War Two. And the look 169 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: of this thing is is is pretty cartoonish, and it 170 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: looks like kind of something that you would see in 171 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: a Loney Tunes cartoon on the side or it makes 172 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: me think of that seeing Dr Strangelove where Slim Pickens 173 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: rides the bomb cowboy style, which could could have got 174 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: close to doing exactly. Very very interesting and the same 175 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: time period that's being described in that that paranoid cold 176 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: war fear. But here's the thing. We we did kind 177 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: of bury the lead here a little bit. It turns 178 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: out that in order to transport these weapons they would 179 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: be what's called safe in other words, they still had 180 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: explosives in them, but they did not have that nuclear payload, 181 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: that core of plutonium. And thank god, because as we 182 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: said at the top, this was a mock mission. This 183 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: was timed to see how long the operation would take 184 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: were it to happen in a genuine conflict. So they 185 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: did safe it, but safety it is not the same 186 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: thing as just making it a dummy bomb. It did 187 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: possess explosive power, it did explode. It did not, thank 188 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: sweet Pete, contain any sort of nuclear payload. Yeah, that 189 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: part was actually transported separately, which you know, good good 190 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: on you Air Force, smart smart smart going uh. And 191 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: you know this thing did lead to updated security measures 192 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: where it was absolutely required that these locking pins be 193 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: in place at all times, um, even during takeoff and landing. 194 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: I would think, especially during day that's what I get dislodged. 195 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: And you know they they yell at us about our 196 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: overhead luggage bins that may shift during takeoff and landing. 197 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: Watch out. I would think it'd be pretty important to 198 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: have that locking pin make sure that that bomb didn't 199 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: shift during takeoff and landing. And in this mission in 200 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: snow flurry, they actually the jury rigged a bit because 201 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: they used a hammer to bang the pin in place. 202 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: But imagine banging a nuclear warhead with a hammer. This 203 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: is interesting because it may seem ridiculous to us now, 204 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: but we have the benefit of hindsight in a very 205 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: real way. The technology behind nuclear weapon detonation changed as 206 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: a result of this in a very very important h fashion. 207 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: So back in the fifties and this time. One thing 208 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: that's so scary about knocking this thing around with a 209 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: hammer is that nuclear weapons had a trigger that compressed 210 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: the uranium plutonium core to set off the chain reaction 211 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: of a nuclear explosion, and things like this Mark six 212 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: that got dropped on the greg family homestead could be 213 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: set off or triggered by concussion, which means anything from 214 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: shooting it with a bullet, knocking on the ground, dropping 215 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: out on a playhouse, dropping it on a playhouse. And 216 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: so the bomb's trigger did explode when it hit the ground, 217 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: when they hit the ground of the Greg's, the ground 218 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: to the Greg's. I'm feeling though, one if the nuclear 219 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: components had been there, it would have been a massive catastrophe. 220 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: We're talking hundreds of thousands of people would have died. 221 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: Because you know, I hadn't heard of this story until 222 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: we looked into it for the show. I would bet 223 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: that many listeners have not heard of this, the US 224 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: accidentally dropping an atomic bomb on an unsuspecting family in 225 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: the South. And that's because at the end of the day, 226 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: nobody died. There was no atomic fallout. It was not 227 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: a catastrophe of epic proportions. It did, however, become one 228 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: of the driving forces for very important change, which is 229 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: that today nuclear weapons are going to be set off 230 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: not by concussion but by a specific type of electrical impulse. 231 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Within days out of this accidental bomb drop, the Air 232 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: Force published new regulations that I think you already mentioned 233 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: right where they said, hey guys, let's make sure that 234 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: we don't, you know, act we want to drop bombs 235 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: where we are supposed to drop them. No more of 236 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: this willy nilly, you know, pin hammering business. But what 237 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: about the Greg's What about I feel like we've we've 238 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: talked about the near miss right that occurred, But what 239 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: about the actual Gregg families and poor cousin Ella, Well, 240 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: they never returned to that home out there in the 241 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Mars Bluff. They received about fifty four thousand dollars and 242 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: damages from the Air Force, which by today's standards would 243 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: be in the neighborhood of half a million bucks, which 244 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: is not too bad. But also we have to think. 245 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, they owned that land, it was in their 246 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: family for a hundred years. There's some things that you 247 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: can't really put a price on. And they moved to 248 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: a nice little cozy bungalow in nearby Florence, South Carolina, 249 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: and this became. Of course, we don't know if Walter 250 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: greg was the kind of guy to hang out in 251 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: a bar, but we do know was a church member 252 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: for all of his life. Wherever he was hanging out 253 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: and spinning his free time, you know, this was his 254 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: go to story when people are spinning tales. You know, 255 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: he pointed it out. Not too many people can say 256 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: they've had a nuclear bomb dropped on them. Oh and also, uh, 257 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: he was a former paratrooper, so he's familiar with aspects 258 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: of military aviation. And he also spent most of his 259 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: non military life working as a conductor for the railroads. 260 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: And he finishes that quote with and not too many 261 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: people would want to And I would side with Walter 262 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: on that point. Um to this day, you can actually 263 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:46,239 Speaker 1: go visit this site. There's a historical marker which is beautiful, 264 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: embarrassing historical marker. It says atomic bomb accident at Mars 265 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Bluff marchha Leavin. The bomb landed in the woods behind 266 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: the asbestos shingle sided home of the railroad conductor Walter 267 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Bill Gregor. Greg his wife, their three children, and a 268 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: niece were injured by the concussion, which destroyed the house 269 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: and outbuildings and did slight damage to build things within 270 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: a five mile radius. And that's when we say slight 271 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: damage to think of like the windows breaking exactly so 272 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: they One of my favorite parts of this story is 273 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: there's something that I picture as a very Wes Anderson moment. 274 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: It's the the Greg's and the Air Force crew. They 275 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: got in touch with each other, and the crew would 276 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: hang out with them because they felt so bad, you know, 277 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: and write them letters. And to me, I just picture 278 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: something in a lost Wes Anderson film where you know, 279 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: there's this immaculately decorated and choreographed room, right, it's perfectly set, 280 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: everything is just so, and then Captain Kolka navigator walks 281 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: in and says, hello, this is the anniversary of the 282 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: time that I accidentally dropped the bomb on you. And 283 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: then Walter Gregg says, yes, Captain, I'm aware. It's just 284 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: like I have brought you this gift and then they 285 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: then they eat a nice Thanksgiving style meal together, but 286 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: it's like I brought you a gift, is like, well, 287 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: I hope it isn't another bomb. And speaking of bombs, 288 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: there is also you can go to where the crater 289 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: is and it's still there. It looks kind of like 290 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: a crappy pond now because it's basically just you know, 291 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: it's it's obviously filled in over time, um, but it's 292 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: still there. It's it's it just tends to be full 293 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: of standing water and there's a plywood silver spray paint. 294 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: It looks like plywood. Um. Actual size bomb it's like 295 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: a silhouette m K six seventy hundred pounds. And there's 296 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: like an Instagram photo on the How Stuff Works article 297 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: where the girl standing next to it and saying I've 298 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: been wondering for years where exactly the atomic bombs I 299 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: was and we finally found it. We do want to 300 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: say that it is on you can visit it. However, 301 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: the site is located on private prop. The Gregg's did 302 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: sell the land and right yeah, and it's currently on 303 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: private property. There's no public access road. So we don't 304 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: want ridiculous history to be known as a show that 305 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: encourages trespassing. So do check with the do check with 306 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: the locals before you go on an expedition, and be 307 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: careful how to get snake bit or get a tick 308 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: or something. There's probably some tall grass around there, um, 309 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, to get to it, you have to go 310 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: through this abandoned lot that used to have a trailer 311 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: park and walk through a totally overgrown path and then 312 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: you come upon this crappy pond that was created by 313 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: the one and only time that an atomic bomb was 314 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: dropped on American soil by American forces. And so this 315 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: this got me thinking. As I was I was always 316 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: reading this, I was remembering this poem by Elizabeth Bishop 317 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: called one Art, which is the art of losing isn't 318 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: hard to master. That's that's the first line, and it 319 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: goes on, I don't want to ruin it. It's it's 320 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: worth reading. No poetry spoilers, No poetry spoilers, ridiculous, right, 321 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: no trespassing, no poetry spoilers. But but it's a poem 322 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: essentially about how easy it is to lose things. And 323 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: it also inspired me to to think about the other 324 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: times that nuclear weapons around the world have been lost. 325 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: And it turns out that since nineteen fifty there have 326 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: been thirty two nuclear weapon accidents UH the accidental launching 327 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: firing Debtonatin, the after loss of weapon. I mean around 328 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: the world, you know, in Canada, in England, and the 329 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: strangest thing that happens is in in a few cases 330 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: the exact location is unknown. There was a incident in 331 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: March tenth of nineteen fifty six, just a couple of 332 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: years before this incident UH in the Carolinas, where a 333 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: B forty seven carrying two nuclear capsules on a flight 334 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: from Tampa, Florida to an overseas base was reported missing. 335 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: It didn't make contact in the Mediterranean when it was 336 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: supposed to for second refueling, and no one ever found 337 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: the plane. It's just out there somewhere in the oceans. Yeah. 338 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: So at least thirty two of these broken Arrow events occur, 339 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: which is why that John Travolta movie is called Broken Arrow? 340 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: Who else can't bring you Broken Arrow? Who else don't 341 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: bring you about? A lover y? And if you were 342 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: the Greg's what would you have done when you found 343 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: out that this occurred? Personally? I don't play the lottery 344 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: but I would think my my probability odds are pretty 345 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: cool right now. Or it could be like a final 346 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: destination kind of scenario where it's like, you know, the 347 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Reaper was robbed and then I'd be looking for like 348 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: any number of things to kill me in my just 349 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: basic surroundings, which those movies got stranger, stranger and more 350 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: and more like intricate. They had to double down with 351 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: the room Goldberg nest of it all. Enough, there we go, 352 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: that's the correct phrase. So I guess we're done here, right. No, wait, 353 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: what is that? Do you hear it too? Oh? Yeah, 354 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: I hear that. Wait, casey, where are you laughing? Oh? No, 355 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: here it comes. It's time, gentlemen. Yep, I'm back. It's 356 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: the Quister, Quister Jonathan Strickland. Ye, we thought the show 357 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: was over. No, no, it has only just begun, my friends. 358 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: For it is time to test your ability to tell 359 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: fact from fantasy. Okay, then let's get on with this. 360 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: So this is the segment of the show where in 361 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: our nemesis, the evil Quister Jonathan Strickland comes in to 362 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: test our ability both to discern fact from fiction, as 363 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: he said, and also to to see whether we can 364 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: work together to figure it out and also to slowly 365 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: wear us down over time until we crack. And and 366 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: for those who did not hear the previous installment, here 367 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: are the general rules that hold sway from one incident 368 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: to the next, which is, you have three minutes three 369 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: trying something out. Three. I'll probably have a different one 370 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: every time. I'm on three minutes three in order for 371 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: you can talk with one another. You can address me 372 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: with any questions. If I have any more information, I 373 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: will give it to you based upon the way you 374 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: ask the question. I may not give you all the 375 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: information you wish, but you have those three minutes to 376 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: make your determination, at the end of which you must 377 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: then tell me whether or not the scenario I present 378 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: to you was fact or fantasy. And I also create 379 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: an arbitrary rule every time, and it will change every 380 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: single time. So last time you had to proceed every 381 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: question with a phrase. This time you have to and 382 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: every question to me with the words tick tick tick boom, 383 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: three ticks in a boom, three ticks followed by a boom. 384 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: And as as soon as I finished giving you your scenario, 385 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: you will start the timer of three months. The enormous 386 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Grandfather timer. As we have previously established, we's been our 387 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: whole budget on that thing, you know, I know it's 388 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: I really had this whole like like sketch for a 389 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: costume and a mask, and instead I'm just I'm just 390 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: hearing a plaid shirt. It is. It's an audio podcast, though, 391 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: you could be wearing anything just right in my work. Alright, 392 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: So alright, so yeah, I'm hanging I'm hanging on the 393 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: edge of the second hand. I'm gonna do a pull 394 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: up and start the timer when it's excellent. So here 395 00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: is your scenario. In October twenty s the Royal Navy 396 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: was called out to detonate an unexploded World War One 397 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: era bomb which previously had been used by a family 398 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: as a doorstop. Start the timer, okay, okay, so it's 399 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: a World War One era bomb which in and a doorstop. 400 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: So clearly not the size of our giant forehead they 401 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: were talking about today. It sounds more like maybe the 402 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: size of like a like a propane tank or something maybe, yeah, yeah, 403 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: what kind of bombs are they using in world? Definitely 404 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: not nuclear? No, uh, all right, the quister, could you 405 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: could you repeat the salient points one more time? Tick? Tick, 406 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: tick boom. Yes. October two thousand seventeen, Royal Navy has 407 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: called out to a farm in Devon, England to detonate 408 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: an unexploded mom of the World War One era that 409 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: had previously been used as a doorstop. I'm going to 410 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: say true. I think true. I think we're gonna I 411 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: think we're gonna call this one earlier. I think maybe 412 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: we will. All right, are we official on it? Yes? 413 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Locking the answer, locked in. We think it's true. Gentlemen, 414 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: you are two for two. Yes. As it turns out, 415 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: there was a farm in Devon, England and the while 416 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: it had been previously used as a doorstop, what had 417 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: actually happened was that they found this bomb inside a wall. 418 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: It had been placed on purpose inside the wall when 419 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: the wall was constructed. The grandparents of the owners of 420 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: the farm said, oh, we used to use as a doorstop. 421 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: It was a corroded twenty five pound unexploded ordinance from 422 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: the UK. Chances are it was actually uh fire into 423 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: the farm area by accident from a nearby firing range. 424 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: So that's what I was gonna ask. Is this sort 425 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: of like a mortar round? Almost along those lines? Pund 426 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Shell got it. Yes, very well done, very well done. 427 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: So you've gotten one fantasy correct, one fact correct? What 428 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: will next time bring? Who's to say it's except me? 429 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: I have like the next three written, so I yes, okay, 430 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: you know what Quistion does his homework. You know, you 431 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: can say a lot about Jonathan, but he definitely does. 432 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: Got to respect the craft, you know, I got to 433 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: respect that, gotta respect the quiz. Well, Jonathan, you know, 434 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming aboard the show. Thank him. Okay, Jonathan, 435 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: I acknowledge that you are here. We can't we can't 436 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: really deny it. I, as we've also previously established, I 437 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: have no way of getting out of this room without 438 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: someone from outside opening the door for me. Again, we 439 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: spent a lot of the budget on our gigant grandfather Timer, 440 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: and you know that we just didn't allocate the right 441 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: money for locks. It's fine, I'll just sit in the corner. Now, 442 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: get the hands, foul demon. I'm just back here. I'm sorry. 443 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: It's okay. You can stay getting a call all right? O. Hey, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, no, 444 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: you know I'll have lunch with you. We're recording so well, 445 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan makes his lunch plans. We we would like to, 446 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: So while Jonathan is making his lunch plans, we would 447 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: like to thank you listeners for joining us for another 448 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: episode of Ridiculous History, another of of Jonathan's diabolical quiz segments, 449 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: which you know, I could, I could, I could take 450 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: her leave. I'm having a good time. I'm having I'm 451 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: having a great time with it. I mean we're you know, 452 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: technically we're winners. Now that's true. 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