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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper's Square, the podcast presented by hard Rock Bet.

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Speaker 2: We are part of the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: This is the show that makes the squares sharper and

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Speaker 1: makes the wise guys pay attention.

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Speaker 2: I am Chad Millman.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my BFF, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my Compirey, my Coast Professional, Better Simon and ETOs Simeon.

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Speaker 3: Chad, how are we doing, dude?

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Speaker 2: I feel pretty good. I feel alive again.

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Speaker 1: I feel I'm thirty six hours removed from my deathbed

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Speaker 1: with COVID.

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Speaker 2: I've moved on.

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Speaker 1: We went two and three last week in our five

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Speaker 1: favorite picks. Don't forget those picks. The results everything where

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Speaker 1: we are on standings available to everyone to see in

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Speaker 1: the Sharper Square contest page. For those who showed up.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the contest player named the Big Why,

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Speaker 1: who is currently number one in our contest with sixteen

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Speaker 1: total wick listeners. There listen, It's lingering, but it's not contagious, okay.

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Speaker 1: With sixteen total wins five weeks remaining in the context,

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Speaker 1: we won with the Browns in the Seahawks. We lost

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Speaker 1: with Titans, Bills and Bears. Dude, that was one of

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Speaker 1: the best games of the year. That might be why

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Speaker 1: I still felt a little bit shitty on Monday, because

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Speaker 1: I stayed up for that game.

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Speaker 2: Simon.

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Speaker 1: I teased this a little bit on Sunday night on

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Speaker 1: the show. We talked about the Bears, We talked about

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, their Max Crosby issue. I have a solution

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Speaker 1: that will put the Bears in the Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: ran it through chat GPT this morning and it totally works.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready git me with?

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Speaker 1: My prompt was, if I were GM of the Bears,

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Speaker 1: how could I make a trade for mac Crosby work?

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Speaker 1: And I told chat GPT, consider the salary cap, consider

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Speaker 1: dead cap, consider all financial issues. Consider the value that

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Speaker 1: would be required from the Raiders based on previous trays

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Speaker 1: for players of this value.

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Speaker 2: And I said I was.

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Speaker 1: Willing to include Dj Moore because my thinking is next

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Speaker 1: year Luther Burden, Romadunza, those are the primary receivers for

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Speaker 1: the Bears.

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Speaker 2: So Dj Moore, who's expensive, can also be moved.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's all of a sudden, a little bit unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to defend your position, just kick it

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Speaker 3: live through with my friend.

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Speaker 1: Chat GPT was very excited and thought I was brilliant, okay,

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Speaker 1: and it believes the deal could work financially if more

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Speaker 1: restructures this contract before the trade and Crosby after the trade.

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Speaker 2: The Bears would have to give up a first, a.

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Speaker 1: Second in twenty twenty six and a twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 1: second round maybe a sweetener of a fourth or a fifth.

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Speaker 2: And twenty twenty six. I also asked Crosby.

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Speaker 1: I also ask GGP, Steve Crosby is good enough, like

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Speaker 1: over the next three to four years. He's in his

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Speaker 1: peak window right now, twenty six to twenty eight. He's

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years.

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Speaker 2: Old, but.

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Speaker 1: They still chetch Ept said he would still be at

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Speaker 1: an elite level of playing over the next three to

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Speaker 1: four years. So I feel like I've done Ryan Pace's job.

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Speaker 2: Go make it happen. Bears in the Super Bowl next

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Speaker 2: year and.

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Speaker 4: Even talk about just history repeats itself. Right, this is

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Speaker 4: Kalil macklover again. Go get the guy from the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Bring that's right him to the Bears.

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Speaker 3: Chat.

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Speaker 4: Do I need a dumb mask Competer to tell you

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Speaker 4: all this this is gonna happen. I've already seen the future,

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Speaker 4: but as an Eagles fan, I'm being selfish and I'm

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Speaker 4: hoping we get him too, but I just think him

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Speaker 4: the Bears, it just seems like a match we in

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Speaker 4: Heaven and you saw the one thing you're missing in

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Speaker 4: that game. You don't have an athletic passage take on

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Speaker 3: So that was that's literally why you guys lost that game.

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Speaker 4: You just had a safety on him, he got away

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Speaker 4: all the time that quarterback, offensive linemen, and then the

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Speaker 4: end are always the top three most draft picks, and

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Speaker 4: you basically have nailed the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback. You just need that d end.

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Speaker 1: Let's go get him double X, double X, Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: That's the reason why we're forty seven and thirty eight

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Speaker 1: because we went too and three, because the Bears lost

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Speaker 1: by four and we had three.

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Speaker 2: And a half in the contest. This is our Tuesday show.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go over the entire slate.

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Speaker 1: It's also the last weekend for players to reach contract incentives.

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Speaker 1: It's become an annual betting ritual. So when relevant the

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Speaker 1: ones that I've been able to find, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: try to highlight those. Don't forget watch the Sunday show

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Speaker 1: for our final five picks. You can watch all of

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Speaker 1: our stuff at YouTube, Sharper Square, subscribe like this video.

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Speaker 1: get your pods. Okay, simon Huge Saturday Slate, it's going

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Speaker 1: to decide some divisions, going to decide some seedings in

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Speaker 1: the conference. Also some player incentives. Fun ones to look

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Speaker 1: at for this game. Carolina at Tampa Bay. This number

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Speaker 1: is down to two and a half. That moved through

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Speaker 1: the three open three and a half on Sunday. We

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Speaker 1: both liked it at three and a half. Got down

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Speaker 1: to two and a half for today. Majority of the

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Speaker 1: tickets coming in on the Panthers, so not surprising. Incentives

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Speaker 1: to watch, Okay, incentives to watch which could play into

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Speaker 1: the game script we need as Panthers betters. Ric o'dowell

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Speaker 1: needs seven yards total to reach thirteen to fifty for

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Speaker 1: the season, earn him a million dollars if he gets

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Speaker 1: one more TV chat.

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Speaker 3: You gotta scratch on these they cannot be like that.

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Speaker 3: How's that gonna help anyone there? He could now eat

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Speaker 3: seven more yards.

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Speaker 2: Guy, I'm giving you the whole picture.

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Speaker 4: You cannot do this the whole show. I refuse to

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Speaker 4: sit here. I don't incentives.

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Speaker 2: I don't have it for the whole show.

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Speaker 4: Do not tell me that needs seven more yards to

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Speaker 4: get an incentive. I'm gonna lose my mind.

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Speaker 1: Don't use he needs one more touchdown, one more touchdown

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Speaker 1: play the anytime touchdown, but it's going to be worth

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Speaker 1: parlaying it with whatever yardage totals you want to parlay

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Speaker 1: it with, because he's going to be getting that million

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Speaker 1: dollar bonus as well.

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Speaker 2: That's my fucking point.

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Speaker 3: I know you're gonna make me lose my mind, though.

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Speaker 3: If they're all like that, uh.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make your mind.

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Speaker 4: I think we're on the same page. We know Panthers

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Speaker 3: People know this show, they know us.

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Speaker 4: This is thank god we can have woild at least

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love it. I love it. I bet it.

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Speaker 3: We think we both bet the three when on Sunday

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Speaker 1: The three and a half and I bet the money line.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm going to bet Rico Dubdo parlays.

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Speaker 4: And I'm right there with you the Panthers, like I

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Speaker 4: bet it. I am shocked the public are still having

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Speaker 3: I mean they are. This has to be the lowest.

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Speaker 4: Possible time we've been able to buy Baker since he's

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Speaker 4: probably been on this Bucks team since maybe his first start.

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Speaker 4: Like this just is rock bottom. And the numbers are insane.

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Speaker 4: How scared they are. I think people already know are

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Speaker 4: Panthers numbers right? The Panthers seven to zero this season

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Speaker 3: Uh, they've been an absolute machine.

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Speaker 4: You know they are covering those spreads after a loss

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Speaker 4: by eleven points per game. It's just a thing we've

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Speaker 4: once again shocked the public is backing bright songky through

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Speaker 4: for what fifty six yards?

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Speaker 3: You said, Chad last week. It's ridiculous, nightmare.

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Speaker 4: But the Baker stats, I'll give them to you. He

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Speaker 4: twenty two and thirty six against the spread in his

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Number one is Jay Cutler, which was actually pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler Ready, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: At home against his own divisional opponents.

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Speaker 4: And tons of terrible Todd Bowles stats. Basically Todd bowls

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Speaker 3: So assistance two thousand and five.

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Speaker 4: He is twenty five and thirty seven straight up at

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Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to give other stats. We just have

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Speaker 4: to buack Carolina. So we love them. We know it's

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Speaker 4: the public side. At least we both have good numbers.

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Speaker 4: I hope people listen to Sunday and got a good number.

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Speaker 4: I am with Chad that I would take the money

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Speaker 4: half scarry off. I'd still bet that. We talk all

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Speaker 4: the time. It's such a key number. But the NFL

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Speaker 4: messed up with this game. I think we both know

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Speaker 4: that they did not think the Falcons were win. Now,

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Speaker 4: even if the Panthers lose this game, they could still

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Speaker 4: make the playoffs if the Falcons beat the Saints on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So a bizarre game.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, Chad like a game I'm I'm not putting too

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Speaker 4: much into because it's moved off the three. But I

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Speaker 4: am still on the Panther especially here in all those

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Speaker 1: And you'll also be on ric o'dowdell anytime touchdown with

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Speaker 1: the parlay of Panthers money line and Rico o'dowdell's you know,

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Speaker 1: over rushing yards and passing yards in the game, receiving

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Speaker 1: yards in the game. Seattle at San Francisco, very strange game.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is now one and a half point underdog

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Speaker 1: at home line flip three point move. Sunday night after

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Speaker 1: Niners to one and a half Seahawks, getting the majority

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Speaker 1: So this tells me the wise guys were coming in

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Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. The Seahawks offense is not the Bears,

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Speaker 4: And in this game here, like we've talked about, how

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Speaker 3: That feels a good steal.

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Speaker 2: I'm still glad you brought up Sam because Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: Needs one hundred and fifty yards to hit four thousand

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Speaker 1: Also needs three touchdowns for another five But it's interesting

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Speaker 2: Like, that's you'd expect him to go under this and this.

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Speaker 4: Kind of and flip side of Rock Party nine and

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Speaker 4: That's eleven to three straight up in December or later

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Speaker 2: And he's the opposite of Sam Donald. Rock Perty like.

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Speaker 1: Does not flinch and has no fear. The bigger the

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. This is not meant to be an indictment.

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Speaker 1: It is just relaying the facts. He has not performed well.

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Speaker 2: In these scenarios. New Orleans at Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta is a three point favorite at home, masterful masterful

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Speaker 3: We do, we fade the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: And I was hoping to find some good info on

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Speaker 4: our longtime fans probably remember we blindly faked Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: If Kirkstall has a job seen, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: You do wonder I totally wondered that, and I wonder

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's I'm obviously too biased with this game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I don't bet Shuck or take

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Speaker 4: People have found along they know I'm all in on

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Speaker 4: Shuck the hype train. You know, when he joined this team,

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Speaker 4: But a lot of the money's coming on the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: They've moved now from two to two and a half

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Speaker 4: on the road against a divisional opponent since twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: been an absolute machine. So we're witnessing history if it

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Speaker 4: at greater than touring at greater than fifty to one odds.

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Speaker 4: Chuck was three hundred to one before his first start

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Speaker 3: So it's history, it really is. We never see anything

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Speaker 4: And I think the biggest dog ever won in this spot.

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Speaker 4: Shuck if you could pull this off. But if you

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Speaker 3: You have to hedge and get your money in some way.

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Speaker 4: If you bet ten bucks to win two hundred, two thousand, whatever,

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Speaker 4: just you have to hedge in somebody. So yeah, shuck,

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Speaker 4: pretty insane run here, Chad, But like I said, I'm

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Speaker 4: too close to it. I think it's a three and

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Speaker 1: It really makes the Panthers game interesting, like a side story,

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Speaker 1: and there's going to be if they win and Teo

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Speaker 1: McMillan has an impact, how is that going to play

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Speaker 3: You have to give it to him, Yeah, yeah, like yeah.

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Speaker 4: The only reason this is tight tight now is because

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Speaker 4: I think Tech put up like ten yards nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he keeps it for fifty yards last year exactly.

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Speaker 4: That's if he lays another egg, Chad's it's real possible

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Speaker 1: By the way, here's a stat that Matt Mitchell just

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell. But you know it's not It's not going

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Speaker 1: to get us sued. Since twenty eighteen, Atlanta Falcons are

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Speaker 1: fifty three and seventy eight in games played with playoff eligibility.

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Speaker 1: They're eleven and four and games played after being eliminated

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Speaker 1: from the playoffs. So if you want to bet the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: do it now before the number moves. Cleveland is Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati minus seven and a half. Another one we talked

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Speaker 1: bet the Bengals minus seven.

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Speaker 2: I still like it for a few reasons.

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Speaker 1: Number one, we know the Browns defense does not travel,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow came back. Take out that stinker against the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: They lost twenty four to nothing. Joe was in his feelings.

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Speaker 1: That was the week of the press conference. It looked

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Speaker 1: what was going on. Five total games, twelve touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: They're averaging other than that game against the Ravens thirty

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Speaker 4: Here, Yeah, love the Bengals, And we talked a little

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Speaker 4: dive into the numbers. Since it started last year at Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: oh and six against the spread, after they straight up

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Speaker 4: after a straight up win, failing to cover the spread

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Speaker 4: bybs eleven eleven points per game. So they tend to,

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Speaker 4: you know, just lay total eggs in this exact spot,

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Speaker 4: and they have so since last year, and we've kind

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Speaker 4: of been fading them for that reason alone. Just these

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Speaker 4: rookies tend to not be able to handle winning, let

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Speaker 4: alone you're on a really bad team, and we think

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Speaker 4: that this Browns team that was their super Bowl last week, right,

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Speaker 4: that really felt like that, And just the way the

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Speaker 4: players were acting and celebrating afterwards, it really felt like it.

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Speaker 4: And I am in a weird spot here too where

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Speaker 4: I have a large investment on the Browns over four

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Speaker 4: and a half wins, So I'm taking a pretty big

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Speaker 4: position here on the Bengals money line just to hedge

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Speaker 4: that bet just in case.

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Speaker 3: So I already loved it.

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Speaker 4: Like Chad said, we talked a little bit Sunday night

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Speaker 4: about just grabbing seven just because it felt like it

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Speaker 4: was gonna go up.

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Speaker 3: It has.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully you can still shut around maybe get the seven,

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Speaker 4: but I'm it feels like the same thing with Seattle

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Speaker 4: last week. I'm not gonna let the hook scam me off.

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Speaker 4: I'll still take the seven a half I need to.

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Speaker 4: It just feels like the Cincinnati Bengals roll and Miles

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Speaker 4: Garrett that sack record. It's interesting to me, this is

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Speaker 4: probably the best Bengals offensive line he's faced since, you know,

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Speaker 4: they've had Joe Burrow. Like it's it's crazy when you're

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Speaker 4: down to the numbers how much the Bengals offensive line has

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Speaker 4: gotten better this season, improved the season. And I attribute

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Speaker 4: a lot to Joe, not just Joe flacka but he did.

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Speaker 4: Feels like he changed the offensive line when he came there.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know this. It's gonna be interesting to

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Speaker 4: see what the over under is on his sack because

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Speaker 4: every week it's basically a minus two hundred zero point

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Speaker 4: five half sack. I wonder what the odds are gonna

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Speaker 4: be on I'll probably be that scumback. I'm probably gonna

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Speaker 4: take the under here. I just I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: have a feeling about it's Miles Gary not getting it here,

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Speaker 4: But we'll see. It feels like the Browns are gonna

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Speaker 4: do everything their possibility to, you know, whether it's stacking

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Speaker 4: three guys to one side with him, it's just they're

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Speaker 4: gonna find a way right to try to get him

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Speaker 4: this record, Simon.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for sack props later in the show,

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Speaker 1: I have so many incentives to give you. Next game,

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Speaker 1: Dallas at the New York Giants. The Giants are four

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Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs. I don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this game.

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Speaker 4: Well, the sharps are they're moving it. This is this

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Speaker 4: is down now to three and a half in a

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Speaker 4: lot of books. So you know, crazy line opened five

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Speaker 4: and a half. I honestly thought we would be all

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Speaker 4: over Dallas, like this is exact type of games Dallas

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Speaker 4: wins by thirty. They just beat up on bad teams,

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Speaker 4: let alone games that just have no meaning. And you know,

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Speaker 4: Cowboys finishing the season eight eight and one just feels

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Speaker 4: like it makes sense, just feels like another win total

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Speaker 4: game that matters for me. I talked before the season,

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Speaker 4: really like their win total. This is obviously way before

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Speaker 4: they got rid of their best defensive player, maybe the

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Speaker 4: best one of the best defensive players in the game.

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Speaker 4: And the Cowboys win total coming the year was seven

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Speaker 4: and seven. So, uh, they're at seven wins. You need it,

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Speaker 4: you need the seven. Most people did have seven and

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Speaker 4: a half. You need this one obviously for the win toll,

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Speaker 4: but for me, and just look at this matchup. I'm

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Speaker 4: like Chad, like I'll bet Dallas now, especially at minus

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Speaker 4: three and a half. But I hate this game like you,

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Speaker 4: and I just don't really putting to much money against

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Speaker 4: a professional. They actually have a readier on the Giants

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Speaker 4: that I'm totally missing. Maybe it's just starts that great

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Speaker 4: matchup wise against a bad Dallas defense and I'm overlooking it.

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Speaker 4: But I just I can't see Dak not going all

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Speaker 4: out trying to pad his stats in this game.

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Speaker 1: Another game that feels very uninteresting to me, Indy at Houston.

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Speaker 1: Houston is now a ten point favorite. The Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: experiment is over. Riley Leonard is going to be starting

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Speaker 1: in this game. The Texans will be playing all of

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Speaker 1: their starters if there's anybody. And I don't love this

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Speaker 1: line for the Texans. Is I continue to be worried

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Speaker 1: about their offense that you know, obviously they couldn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago they barely won. They eked out the

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Speaker 1: win against the Chargers. Their offense createred after the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: It's not like and the Colts like they've been getting

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Speaker 1: bedeviled and damaged. But if they're playing everybody ten feels

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Speaker 1: a little high for this offense. But I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to play this game.

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Speaker 4: I know, I feel like such a sucker because I

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Speaker 4: want to take take Houston, just fade Riley Leonard and

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Speaker 4: just a Colts team that how they not just totally

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Speaker 4: giving up?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what does this game mean to anyone on

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Speaker 3: that team?

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Speaker 4: But just one of my favorite things I saw someone

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Speaker 4: posted the Colts hit their win total over on the

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Speaker 4: ninth of November and have not won a game since.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's just insane to think about. Just

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Speaker 4: I feel so bad for their fans. Like we talked

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Speaker 4: about it, just the worst collapse you can possibly imagine

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Speaker 4: as a fan base.

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Speaker 3: And I'm with you, Chad.

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Speaker 4: It's like, you know, Riley Leonard the w you don't know,

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Speaker 4: maybe he is the guy to play here because he

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Speaker 4: could be good and maybe he can run, use his

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Speaker 4: legs and run.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, I know, I know what the sex

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Speaker 3: team is.

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Speaker 4: There are a dominant defense that I'm pretty sure one

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Speaker 4: or two of those deep ball is that he throws,

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Speaker 4: and CJ has just been magical with that he's good

551
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Speaker 4: at throwing the deep ball, horrible at dinnernews stuff.

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Speaker 3: This year it's been bizarre.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know in a game where I could

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Speaker 4: see the Texans getting ready for the playoffs, I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to really back aside here because I think

556
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Speaker 4: going the play guys the second half or the resting guys.

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Speaker 4: So if you have to do it for a pick bull,

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Speaker 4: it's ten and a half plus ten and a half

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Speaker 4: or plus ten, I guess I'm gonna take the Colts.

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Speaker 4: But really don't feel good about this one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we need to talk much about the

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Speaker 1: next one either, because it's Tennessee at Jacksonville and we're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to bet the Titans anymore after last week.

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Speaker 1: And also and also we know Tennessee is gonna be

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Speaker 1: playing all of its starters. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's a very good that's good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And is there still an outside shot? I have to

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Speaker 4: look I should have looked up for the show. Is

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Speaker 4: there still like a weird outside shot that the Jags

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Speaker 4: can get the one seed if Denver loses because they

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Speaker 4: need the Patriots to lose as well, so maybe probably not.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's a weird game. I don't know why

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Speaker 4: the spread was so big, but it must mean the

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Speaker 4: Jags are going full out. But yeah, what were we

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Speaker 4: We're banned from us. We'll keep it moving, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: also know that this number has moved to six and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really would be shocked, honously Green Bay played

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657
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: Like you said, it's a tricky injury, right, concussions, You

658
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: never know how guys are gonna react, especially after a

659
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: couple of weeks.

660
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: So I think Green Bay goes full protective mode.

661
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: They only play the lineup they have to play because

662
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: they don't have guys they can bring off bench.

663
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: So you expect to see a.

664
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: Third string quarterback against a Brian Floyd's defense. You like

665
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: that matchup a lot for Minnesota, especially where they're still

666
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: playing hard. Like we've talked about, it doesn't matter who

667
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: the quarterback has been, who's in and out their their defense.

668
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: It has been playing hard.

669
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 4: So you know, it's a game that I doubt we'll

670
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: put in our contest just because there's a lot of

671
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: unknowns here.

672
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: But I would still take this long.

673
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: It's under seven on Minnesota, But yeah, we're just simply

674
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: backing floors in this defense.

675
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: There's not much else to grasp this Vikings offense.

676
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, Minnesota Vikings tight end has four touchdowns on

677
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: the year on thirteen receptions. Can Josh Oliver get two

678
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns this weekend? Is so earn two hundred and fifty

679
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Let's have a little fun. Let's Tyler shuck

680
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: this thing. Let's put a little bit of a taste

681
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: on Josh Oliver two plus touchdowns.

682
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: On Sunday for the Minnesota Vikings LA Chargers at the

683
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos.

684
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Broncos are minus twelve and a half. Obviously, they have

685
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: so much to play for. They got to lock in

686
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: the number one seed. The Chargers have nothing to play for,

687
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: which is why Trey Lance is starting a quarterback. I

688
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: watched a little bit Trey Lance in the preseason enough

689
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: to tell myself, I don't hate Trey Lance, but I

690
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: don't see at the end of the day, I don't

691
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: see this being one of our final five.

692
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: No, oh my god, I was hoping you would love this.

693
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: I love the Chargers here.

694
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, it's Bo Nicks as a big favorite in

695
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: his division, and I think I saw some crazy stat

696
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: he's like two to nine this season as a favorite,

697
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: when he was what was he eight to zero ye

698
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: last year as a favorite. So totally came crashing back

699
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: down to earth. And yeah, you know, you could say

700
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: it's a horrible match with the Chargers. Agree like they're

701
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: gonna be sitting everybody now. They're sitting their backup offensive linement,

702
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: so their backups are playing like it's it's gonna be disastrous.

703
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: I'm sure, but this just feels like a ton of

704
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: points with a mobile quarterback that you know we could

705
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: get the back door easily. It's just how hard will

706
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: the Broncos be playing the second half? Right, It's gonna

707
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: be a really unique, interesting spot. And yeah, it really

708
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: is about the number here, Like even with Trey Lance,

709
00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: I didn't make this bigger than ten.

710
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: It's twelve to twelve and a half. A lot of books.

711
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: I could see all the parlays, all the teasers coming

712
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: in on the Broncos come Sunday and we might be.

713
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: Able to get the thirteen, Chad, So I'll be patient here.

714
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: I'm definitely grabbing the twelve and a halfs while they're

715
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: out there, but I can only see this one getting bigger.

716
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: I'm just not sure other than professionals, who's gonna better

717
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 4: on this Chargers team. So be interesting how the number

718
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: goes and where the Broncos end up, if they end

719
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: up at thirteen or if this starts coming back down

720
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: a little bit.

721
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I don't hate it, Like if

722
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: I looked at anything. I was leaning Chargers. I just

723
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: didn't feel like this has top five mature. Maybe it does,

724
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I just.

725
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm remember a hard time think of hardball.

726
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: His team's getting blown out, you know, it just feels

727
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: like he's such a psychle. I feel like even his

728
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: backup's going to get up.

729
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: Well.

730
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: He also got to think if this game was being

731
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: played at full strength, it'd probably be closer to two

732
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: and a half or three. So you're telling me, justin

733
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: Herbert is ten points against the spread compared.

734
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: To the Trey Lance.

735
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: That does feel unusually high to me. So I agree

736
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: with you that you're a ton of value on the Chargers.

737
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see how things go, and we'll

738
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: see how things evolved.

739
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: We'll have I'm interest see what the lineup is like.

740
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: That's that's another thing.

741
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: If you see a lineup we feel comfortable with, Obviously

742
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: I'd take a bigger position, but we're just we're so

743
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 4: early in the weeker we have no idea who's resting,

744
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: who's actually playing other than Herbert.

745
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City at Las Vegas. The Raiders are now six

746
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs. One of these coaches has

747
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: announced he will be back next year. It is Andy Reid,

748
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: one of these coaches probably won't be back, and it's

749
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll who will also be starting Kenny Pickett. The

750
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: truth is, the Chiefs should probably try to lose here

751
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: because if they lose and other teams ahead of them

752
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: lose in draft order. I mean right now they're eleventh

753
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: in draft order, and teams ahead of them are underdogs

754
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: obviously this week, and a couple of those teams, if

755
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: they lose, the Chiefs can sneak into the top ten,

756
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: which is remarkable to be able to have Patrick Mahomes

757
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: them back at some point next year, and you're getting

758
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: a top ten draft pick. So you know, I don't

759
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: have a I don't have a thought on the side

760
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: in this game.

761
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: Now.

762
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: I'm I'm probably just gonna take the Chiefs just because

763
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: of the defense, and you know, I just don't think

764
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 4: Spag is gonna lay down here.

765
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: So you know, the fact that is, can you pick it?

766
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: I guess might be better honestly, because you know, just

767
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: can't stop throwing picks. But yeah, it's it's just an

768
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: awful game, And I'm with you, like there's other awful

769
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: games I'd rather bet have money on it a half

770
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: to wat Yeah, this one I'll pass on. And I

771
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 4: just feel so bad for your boy Mendoza if this

772
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: is where how he ends up, this is where he goes.

773
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: The Raiders, this this organization, man, and it just feels

774
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: so dysfunctional, so far away. And you're right, it feels

775
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 4: like there's every day you're hearing different leak stories about

776
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 4: how they don't want to bring back Pete Carroll.

777
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: So just I mean, it's been like this.

778
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: For the Raiders since that Super Bowl what was that

779
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 4: two thousand and one, two thousand, They've just been a

780
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: train wreck these last twenty.

781
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: Five's that super Bowl a quarter of a century ago.

782
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's just been horrible, and I just

783
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: feel so bad for their fan base. They had one

784
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: good Dare car almost MVP year where his legs splits.

785
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: Into two pieces.

786
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was very much shit ever since,

787
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 4: and you know, I just they deserved the number one pick.

788
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: They've been before, the worst team this year, no doubt

789
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: about it.

790
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: If you do want some action in this game, if

791
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: you do, Hollywood, Brown needs one touchdown to earn a

792
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars incentive two touchdowns to

793
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: earn two hundred another two hundred and fifty grand, and

794
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and two receiving yards to earn another two

795
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand. So if he has a one

796
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: hundred and three yard two touchdown day, he's making an

797
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: extra seven to fifty. Someone will be motivated, and who knows,

798
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: maybe Andy Reid built a game plan to get him downfield.

799
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but something to watch for a little

800
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: taste of something. If you're looking for a good time,

801
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: don't scoff at me. New York Jets at Buffalo. Buffalo

802
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: is seven point favorite. This is a Mitchell Trubisky line.

803
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen we saw was struggling late in the game.

804
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell posited before we went on the air that

805
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: they might have gone for the two the Bills because

806
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: they didn't think Josh Allen could could survive in overtime.

807
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: Hasn't been announced that he's going to rest, but there's

808
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: no reason for him to play. But we're not being

809
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: the Jets here now.

810
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: And you know what Josh Allen do, hopefully hopefully to

811
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: keep a streak life. He'll come out, take the first

812
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: snap and then they'll bring in Mitch.

813
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what they're that's what they've been saying,

814
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: that's what the scuttle butt is.

815
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep his streak going because he's earned it.

816
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: It's like it's him and Eli Man in these streaks

817
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: bro far like just lasting in this game of that

818
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: position where you're just getting a blindside hit all of it.

819
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: It's crazy these quarterbacks can hold up.

820
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, I wanted to honestly bet the Jets, but

821
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: the numbers moved too much and now it's becoming a

822
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: Bills number. So I'm right there with Chat. It doesn't

823
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: matter for those other backups. I still expect the Bills

824
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: run game to show up. And on the flip side,

825
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: this Jets team, they just have a total zero at quarterback.

826
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: It's just you're third and five or third and six.

827
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 4: It feels like third and twenty. It's just horrible the

828
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: quarterback plays. So yeah, just we've talked about the the

829
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 4: Jets are on a story call run. I think they're

830
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: the first team in like eighty years to lose four

831
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: straight or five straight games by over twenty points something

832
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 4: insane like that. They're just a total train wreck right

833
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: now of an organization and I know game and came

834
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: to lie to myself and try to.

835
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: Fade them here.

836
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: Just going back at Trubisky is a seven point favorite.

837
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: I can't believe it. But that's that's how bad it

838
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 4: is for this Jets.

839
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: It's bad Washington and Philly. Philly is a seven point

840
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: favorite at home. I mean, I don't have any thoughts

841
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: on this game, but I can tell you that it

842
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Philly needs to have a game that gives them offensive confidence.

843
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: Not really, they they just had before that Bills game.

844
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 4: They had big offensive games and that literally has done

845
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: nothing for someone like me. I said, I just I

846
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: don't trust it, so I know what they're gonna do here.

847
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: It's a game we kind of need to win because

848
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: if the Bears lose, we get the two seed.

849
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: And I'd much rather play Green Bay than the Rams,

850
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: even though the Rams fick their phone apart here.

851
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: But it's it's a weird, a weird spot in the

852
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: it's another win total game. Eagles.

853
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: They win this, they'll go over their win total. They're

854
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: sitting at eleven over. Under was eleven and a half.

855
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just like we wanted to do the

856
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: first time the Communis play. If it's Mariota, We're getting

857
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 4: a big dog here. You want to take that line,

858
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: don't not exactly sure the quarterck's going to be, and

859
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: you know, if it is the backup, Josh reluctantly back

860
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: this Eagles team. But it's another game I'm scared of.

861
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 4: If the Bears are up thirty five to ten, which

862
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: again never known football. If they're up that big though,

863
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 4: and entering the third quarter, entering the fourth quarter, why

864
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 4: would the Eagles not just start yanking starters because there's

865
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 4: nothing to play for at this point. So these games

866
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: are very tricky in these final weeks where it's all

867
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: you know, it's all gonna be depending on what other

868
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: teams are doing in these type of games. So what

869
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: I've assumed is he was going to prepare like this

870
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: is a real game. But once again Sierans come out

871
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 4: and said he is utmost confidence in the backup quarterback

872
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 4: and allow of that backup players to be able to

873
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 4: win this game as well. So, without knowing what Egles

874
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: are going to do, and if I had to make

875
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: a pickpool now, I'm going to take the Commanders with

876
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: the plus seven just in case the Eagles do russ.

877
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Starters Simon, you should also take von Miller to get

878
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: one sack. He needs to hit one more for the

879
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: year to earn a five hundred thousand dollars bonus.

880
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: And that is the first time most probably ninety percent

881
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: of the fans have heard von Miller's name this season.

882
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Most people did not even know he was on the Commanders.

883
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, just because it's a running joke that

884
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: they basically were like a retirement home this offseason. They

885
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: just got every veteran known to man to try to

886
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: make a run, and it just everyone got hurt.

887
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: I think we got a game with Detroit at Chicago,

888
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: and Chicago is a two and a half point favorite.

889
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: They both both coaches have said they're playing to win.

890
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: The Bears need it for potential seating, like we just discussed,

891
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: the Lions need it for pride pun intended, and Dan

892
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: Campbell would sooner quit before he wasn't going to play

893
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: a game at full tilt.

894
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: So we got a real handicap, my friend.

895
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: The line has moved in the Bears direction one and

896
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: a half to two and a half, but only a

897
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: slight majority of the bets coming in for the Bears,

898
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: So this feels more like a wise guy move than

899
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: a public move. The Bears may not have Roma dunes A,

900
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: probably not going to have Luther Burden.

901
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: What do you think?

902
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: I know what I think, and I don't like to

903
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: say it because I'm proud of my team. But I

904
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: don't think they're the team this week.

905
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: I don't think we see the Bears win another game

906
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: this season. Oh my god, I know it, just it

907
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: feels that way. That felt like a turning points. Yet

908
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie where it's.

909
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: Like, oh I disagree on that.

910
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think they win this game. They win a

911
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: playoff game.

912
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this game. I think the Lions

913
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: are the right side in this game. But I came

914
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: away from that game against the Niners so encouraged, like

915
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: the way they played. Kayleb was still missing his easy passes,

916
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: but when he can make some plays, and I feel

917
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: like they should come out of that game thinking they

918
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with one of the best teams

919
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: in the conference and they were one bad sort of

920
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: alignment away from having a better chance to win that game.

921
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm not discouraged as a fan coming out of that

922
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: game at all.

923
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you from a professional standpoint that when

924
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: I look at this, I'm like, oh my god, they

925
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: might not win another game rest of the year because

926
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 4: it's a hard matchup and they have the playoffs. It

927
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: just feels like it's all losable game in their round

928
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: one matchup. Your defense is horrible, that's been your issue.

929
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 4: You've lived on the turnovers and looky for you. Golf

930
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: seems like he's got the turnover book. This dude cannot

931
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: stop turning the ball over. So I'm simply just playing

932
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: the number here. It's three now with multiple books, So

933
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 4: this number is getting hit by professionals, and now they've

934
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 4: bumped it up to three.

935
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 3: How do I not take that side?

936
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: And I'm going to give out these Campbell's stats, but

937
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: I keep saying I hate that I'm doing it because

938
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: they might be Ben Johnson's stats. But it is interesting.

939
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: Campbell with the lines four to oh straight up four

940
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: and oh against the spread in week eighteen. In the

941
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: week seventeen eighteen, in his career, he is eight and

942
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 4: two against the spread. That's including not covering last week.

943
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: Jared golf Man Campbell as a dog, we know the deal,

944
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: twenty nine and fourteen against the spread.

945
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: It's like you just got to bet it.

946
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: And when they end up closing as a dog, they're

947
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: twenty three and thirteen, So I know it's it's all

948
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: these numbers I keep saying they mightn't mean nothing, but

949
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: I just have to keep trusting they they'll get this

950
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 4: offensive going and against a bad Bears if I think

951
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: the Bears can win Chad, no doubt. I think they're

952
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: the better team right now. They're clearly more healthier TV

953
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: with all their injuries. That offensive line has got a

954
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: lot of shoes. I just can the Bears take advantage?

955
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: Do you guys have pass rushers can take advantage of

956
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: that bad offensive line? And unless Golf doesn't turn the

957
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: bowl over, I just feel like this is gonna be

958
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: a back and forth type of game. So if it

959
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 4: was still a pick or minus one of the Bears,

960
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 4: I think I could be on the Bears side here.

961
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: But now we're hitting the three. I mean, come on,

962
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: you have to take the lines at that number. So

963
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: it's it's tough for me. I love this Bears team,

964
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 4: but I just I see it. I hate it when

965
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: I see these things happen, but I just I see

966
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 4: them kind of faltering here in this exact spot, and.

967
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: They need to win it.

968
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: On my opinion chat, they need to win this game

969
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: and get Green Bay at home. They do not want

970
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: Stafford coming in with this Rams team.

971
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I agree. I'd much rather have the Packers

972
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: than the Rams. And we're gonna talk about the Rams

973
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: in a second. I'm just I'm not worried that anything

974
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: I thought you were referring to the Bears. Confidence creating that,

975
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: to me, isn't the issue. I think they're going to

976
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: be a highly confident. I think they're going to look

977
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: at that and be.

978
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: Like, guys, we're so ready to be elite.

979
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: We can play with any team in the NFL. Offensively.

980
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: We never have to worry about being out of a game.

981
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: We never have to worry, no matter what the score is,

982
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: that we're not going to be able to come back.

983
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Because this offense is so good, so good, that's it.

984
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: We'll take the lines, my.

985
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: Listen man, to say that I'm proud of you, it

986
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: would be the massive understatement composure.

987
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: Communication Arizona at the Los Angeles Rams. Los Angeles Rams

988
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: are seven point favorites right now at hard Rop Bet.

989
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: This is going to be Chad's choice presented by hard

990
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Rock Bet.

991
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: Are you sure you want.

992
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: To do this?

993
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: Are you willing to make a choice? That choice we

994
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: can't run from? Can just see it, you know what

995
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: I mean?

996
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: When asked if the Rams would play their starters in

997
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: Week eighteen, Sean McVeigh said, oh, they're playing We need

998
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: to play better, So to me, this is a normal handicap,

999
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: not a Week eighteen handicap. And let me give you

1000
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: some stats about the Cardinals. They remember in the beginning

1001
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: of the year, where like the Cardinals are playing close,

1002
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: they're playing hard. They started September October with losses of

1003
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: one point three points, one point four points, and four points.

1004
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Their November December losses have been twenty two points, nineteen points,

1005
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: three to three, thirty two, twenty seven, and twenty three.

1006
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: Three of those blowouts losses came in the division. I'm

1007
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: taking the Rams and to get right spot against a

1008
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: team that has no answers defensively and very few answers offensively, as.

1009
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: We've seen again and again and again, no matter who

1010
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: they're playing.

1011
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm right there with you. I like the Rams.

1012
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: Obviously they let me down last night in a big way.

1013
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: But this is the type of game like McVeigh. You

1014
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: could hear in his voice he heeds his offensive put

1015
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: up like thirty five forty points. Yes, he really is

1016
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: going to play them throughout in my mind where he's like,

1017
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: you know what, maybe he'll take out Stafford if he

1018
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: takes one bad hit and they're up by twenty in

1019
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: the third quarter or something like that. But I think

1020
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: he is going to play Stars throughout, Like he just

1021
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: seems so pissed off after that game where.

1022
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: I'm not don't think he said it to him.

1023
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 4: He basically must have said to him, if you guys

1024
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: win this game, we play well, we can rest the

1025
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: next week. And they totally laid an egg. And the

1026
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 4: Stafford thing is so bizarre. I tweeted about a little

1027
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: bit they made Drake May during the game. He got

1028
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 4: up to like minus three hundred as a favorite to

1029
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: be MVP. Now he's like minus six hundred. Do you

1030
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: agree with that at all, Chad? Do you think May

1031
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 4: should be the big favorite, that big of a favorite.

1032
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: No, because if Stafford goes off again, and don't forget

1033
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: they almost won that game last night, Like it's not

1034
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: like they completely rolled over in the second half. They

1035
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: played like the Rams that we expect them to be right.

1036
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: They had the opponents to six points, they scored twenty

1037
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: four points. Like it ended up being a much closer

1038
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: game than it should have been. So no, I don't

1039
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: agree with that.

1040
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: Everyone like me is looking at you know, Drake may

1041
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 4: had a great season. Can we not have a serious discussion.

1042
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 4: He had one win against a team with a winning record,

1043
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: that was the Bills. That's that's a real stat if

1044
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: you go through their schedule, that's the only one they

1045
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: have against a team of about five hundred this season. So

1046
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: it's I just can't run my head around it right now.

1047
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm I'm enticed to take a little position

1048
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 4: on Stafford if you don't have any type of position

1049
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: on MVP, just because it's we saw it last year, right,

1050
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: Lamar Chad was on the train with Lamar right for

1051
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: two months you thought it was Lamar. He got up

1052
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: to minus six hundred that day of the show is

1053
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: whether they do they that's an East Span or some

1054
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: award show. You could have go that morning Josh Allen

1055
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 4: at plus seven hundred, and all of a sudden you

1056
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: saw something leaked and all of a sudden he flipped

1057
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: to be the favorite by the time the show got

1058
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: an ounce, So I don't think Stafford's totally dead here.

1059
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: That's like my biggest thing in this game. I'm with

1060
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 4: Chad like I'm gonna put a little future on Stafford

1061
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 4: just in case and he comes down through his four

1062
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 4: touchdowns here, I could see it. Like I talked about,

1063
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: I think it's like he's earned over his career more

1064
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: so than Drake has earned it this year. Drake has

1065
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: had an incredible year, but when you look at the schedule,

1066
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: the years he has a head on them, I just

1067
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: how do you not give to Stafford everything he's done?

1068
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: So I can't believe they took it away from Honestly,

1069
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: they had what two touchdowns call it back, They had,

1070
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: you know, a kick return against him. It was just

1071
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: it's such we overreact so much, and so does a

1072
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: sports book.

1073
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: But he's a plus three hundred now, by the way,

1074
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: plus three hundred, so it's right.

1075
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: So it's moved.

1076
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 4: It's probably moved a little bit because people are thinking,

1077
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 4: like me, it's like, are we not overreacting.

1078
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: Too much of this?

1079
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: And we'll see how much Drake made plays in that

1080
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: final game where you know he might he might not

1081
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: play that much in Stafford con pad the stats even

1082
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: more which end of the day. You know, if he

1083
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: throws for four touch on this game and he finishes

1084
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: her with forty four passing touchdowns, I fink that's gonna

1085
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: be pretty hard to vote not vote f M from MVP.

1086
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: I totally agree.

1087
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: The writers at the end of the year like to

1088
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: get really smart, and they're going to want to look

1089
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: at all the stats and say, wait a second, Frake

1090
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: May's played historically the easiest schedule in NFL history, So yeah,

1091
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: they're going to be thinking about the narrative form Matthew Stafford,

1092
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: especially if he lights it up in this game, in

1093
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: the last.

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00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: Game of the year.

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00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: So I'm with chat on the Rams.

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00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: Together forever, Miami and New England. Speaking of Drake May,

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00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots are eleven and a half point favorites. The

1098
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: Pats will be playing their starters for how long.

1099
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: We don't know. Will Campbell came.

1100
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: Off ir this week, by the way, I doubt he'll play,

1101
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: but he didn't come off I r.

1102
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: Like the number feels big.

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00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: It feels like the sort of where you get when

1104
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: you just beat the Jets by a million points. And

1105
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Drake May through five touchdowns. It is not a leading

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00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: contender for MVP. But it's not like Miami isn't going

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00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: to play its starters and doesn't have an explosive rush

1108
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: game that can be a weakness of the Patriots. So

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00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: feels like a big number to me.

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00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: It feels like a big number. But I said it

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00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: last week. I'm not trying to fade this Patriots team.

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00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: They just they're just mowing along like the offensive just

1113
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: a juggernaut. And yes, Quen Years looked better last week

1114
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: against that Bucks defense. But we've seen this Miami team

1115
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: when they get up in the cold up in the north,

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00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: they just seem to crumble. So we're expecting it to

1117
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: be very cold up in the Northeast. It's just been cold,

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00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: and you know, it's too early in the week to

1119
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: know if there's any type of weather coming. But once again,

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Speaker 4: if you have to make a pick for your pickfull,

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Speaker 4: I'll take.

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00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: The talalk I guess and I'll take the Patriots.

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00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: But you can hear I really want to avoid this

1124
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: if I ken, I just I'm like you, I really

1125
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: don't want to been the pictures of this big of

1126
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: a number. But I just have no confidence in this

1127
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: Miami team after a win, going on the road in

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00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: the freezing cold, playing against a Patriots team that it

1129
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: seems like they're going to be playing hard for this one, right,

1130
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: they still haven't in their back of the amount of

1131
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: chance to get that one seed. So really really weird

1132
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 4: game and a weird number. Like I thought this would

1133
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: be fourteen. So I am honestly shocked to see ten

1134
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 4: and a half's eleven out there on this Patriots team.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. Before it moves up.

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: Last game of the season, prime time game, Sunday Night football,

1137
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore visiting the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers are three and

1138
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: a half point underdogs. Little surprise this moved up. We

1139
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: both talked about it on Sunday Night. We both took

1140
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers at plus three. So many sort of narratives

1141
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: that are regular themes.

1142
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: In our show.

1143
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: And as we talk about betting the Steelers home underdogs,

1144
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin raw ross spot historically great spot, one of

1145
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: the best in the history of the NFL as a

1146
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: head coach at covering this number at home. This game

1147
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: between the Ravens and the Steelers. Historically the underdog is

1148
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: covering this game over the past twenty years in these

1149
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: battles between Harbaugh and Tomlin sixty percent. Add In, we

1150
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know who's going to be playing quarterback yet for

1151
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Add In, we don't know who's going

1152
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: to be quarterback for either of these teams next year

1153
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of drama going on in Baltimore

1154
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. We don't know what's going to happen

1155
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, so a lot of subplots here. I'm

1156
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: a little surprised the line moved from three to three

1157
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: and a half, to be honest, because I still like

1158
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers a lot.

1159
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: Simon says, give me this Pittsburgh Steelers team plus three

1160
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 4: and a half.

1161
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 3: I want to play a game. Simon says, I am

1162
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: like you.

1163
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: I cannot believe the public and the professionals are coming

1164
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 4: in on this Ravens side.

1165
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's a little weird.

1166
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: I once was lost, Chad, I am now found. That's

1167
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: how I feel about this game. I cannot believe when

1168
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: I went through our record that we took the Ravens

1169
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 4: as a five and a half point favorite Adams, which stupid.

1170
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just were lost and one of.

1171
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: Our most egregiously bad decisions in the history of our show, and.

1172
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 3: Just not us.

1173
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: We just blindly take this number. That's why I'm making it,

1174
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 4: Simon says bro. We have no excuse, we can't avoid it.

1175
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: We are dug in here on Pittsburgh and I'll give

1176
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: out the stats. We love these stats so much. I

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00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: love them every time I read them. Since two thousand

1178
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: and five, the underdog in this series thirty twelve and

1179
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 4: three against the spread seventy one percent. When Mike Tomlin

1180
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 4: is the underdog against horriball he is twenty five seven

1181
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: and three against the spread.

1182
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: You know, it's just it's crazy. We talk all the time.

1183
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: Chad said it.

1184
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 4: When it's it's above three, which is the key number

1185
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: in this series. So if it's three or more, the

1186
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: dog either side the under dog in this series twenty

1187
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 4: four five and three against the spread. When it's Tomlin's

1188
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: team that's the dog, he is fourteen to four and

1189
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: two against the spread. When it's bigger than three. Come on,

1190
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: we just have all the trends and we know the matchup.

1191
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: We know this numbers moved honestly to me because of

1192
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 4: the DK like DK not being there. I do think

1193
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: it's of the move because they're gonna have to find

1194
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 4: another way to win. And what I'm gonna hang my

1195
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: hat on here is Pittsburgh's run defense these last three

1196
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: four weeks has really been totally different than they were

1197
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 4: to start the year. They've really found something They've been

1198
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 4: dominant at stopping the run now these last couple of weeks.

1199
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: That to me is how you beat this Ramis team.

1200
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 3: We've seen it.

1201
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: If you can stop King Henry, it doesn't matter if

1202
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 4: it's a banged up Lamar, if it's huddly here, it's

1203
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: it's the run game that makes this thing go here.

1204
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: So think Pittsburgh Tomlin. This is the exact sphy we

1205
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: talk about. They pull teams down to the mud at

1206
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: home late December in the cold, I should say January now,

1207
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 4: Chad said it, it's a Tomlin spot.

1208
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: Never gonna avoid it.

1209
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: Maybe we're missing here, but I do think the numbers

1210
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: move because the professionals think that DK injury is that

1211
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: big of a deal. They've moved this now from two

1212
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: and a half all the way up to three and

1213
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 4: a half. But that to me is too much of

1214
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: a movement. This should never have gotten above three, and

1215
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 4: we'll take that value here, like that's a great number

1216
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 4: to be getting here on Pittsburgh and what should be

1217
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: a very close game.

1218
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: So talk all the time.

1219
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 4: Even when the Ravens were the best team in football

1220
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: right winning division, had like thirteen wins, they'd come up

1221
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh here and Pittsburgh would need this win to

1222
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: get the nine wins for Tomlin. They'd always get it somehow.

1223
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: So got to take Steelers shore just like last week

1224
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 4: we blindly fade the Steelers on that spot against Cleveland.

1225
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 4: No different here, you blindly back the Steelers, your long

1226
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 4: term winner, taking the steels of the dog here.

1227
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: All right, So look, Simon says, is the Steelers plus

1228
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: three and a half. Chad's choice is the Rams minus seven.

1229
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: We still got a lot of games that could be

1230
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: in contention when we get down to it.

1231
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: On Thursday.

1232
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: We are doing a show Thursday, New Year's Day, January

1233
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: FIRS will be recording at our normal time.

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00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: We will record, and.

1235
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: Then I assume Simon, Matt Mitchell, everyone else listening, we

1236
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: will all settle in to root for the Indiana Hoosiers

1237
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: and the Rose Bowl against the Alabama Crimson Tide in

1238
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: future Las Vegas Raider quarterback Fernanda Mendozo.

1239
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: Do you know if to stop your head, I don't

1240
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: let me check. I remember it opened at what seven?

1241
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

1242
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: I'll look for you.

1243
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: But all right, I know I'm biased here, but it

1244
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: feels like that's the Hoosiers number right there.

1245
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: The public is going to be all over Bama plus seven.

1246
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, be careful there if you're trying to fade

1247
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: the Hoosiers.

1248
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: But don't fade the Hoosiers. They're a juggernaut.

1249
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: There you go.

1250
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,720
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00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,400
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00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,880
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1253
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,200
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1254
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,440
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Speaker 4: This ain't Ray Nitchkei and Dick Buckets and Deacon Jones

1260
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: over there, So let's start kicking some hass.

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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: This team is not better US than, not even good