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Speaker 1: Welcome to playmakers. I'm Haley Ellwood. Welcome to Week three,

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Speaker 1: where the Los Angeles Chargers will travel to Kansas City

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Speaker 1: to take on the Chiefs. Tracy Wolfson will be on

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Speaker 1: the call, and she joins me. Now, Tracy, thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on. Thanks for having me, Haley. I know

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited and we are going to talk about

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Speaker 1: this Week three game, but I want to actually rewind

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Speaker 1: to week two of twenty twenty, the last time really

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Speaker 1: we got a Patrick Mahomes led Chiefs team versus a

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert led Chargers team, the surprise start. We've heard

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Speaker 1: the story a million times, but not necessarily from the

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Speaker 1: people like you who were there. What was that moment

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Speaker 1: like finding out that Herbert was getting the start just

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Speaker 1: seconds before kickoff? All right, well, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you and tell you that I was like

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Speaker 1: four stories high. I was top of so far because

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Speaker 1: we were going to open the show this amazing view

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Speaker 1: and show how amazing the stadium is, and I'm doing

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Speaker 1: getting ready and we're rehearsing, and we had all these

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Speaker 1: So as this was taking place, I was doing my

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Speaker 1: introduction hit and all of a sudden, they're like and

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Speaker 1: here comes Justin Herbert and I'm like what, And then

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get down stairs. And remember last year,

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Speaker 1: we weren't on the field, so I didn't get to

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Speaker 1: really see much. It was very difficult. You couldn't talk

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Speaker 1: made it obviously more difficult. So as soon as we

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Speaker 1: So it was we were frazzled, but it was great.

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Speaker 1: We caught it, and obviously, you know, he went out

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Speaker 1: and impressed and we sat down with Justin you know,

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Speaker 1: last week and had a chance to talk about kind

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Speaker 1: of the week two anniversary, and he told us a

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Speaker 1: great story. And I'm not sure if you guys guys

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Speaker 1: know it, but he said he had no idea that

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was even pert. He actually thought this was

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Speaker 1: part of the game plan and that maybe they decided

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Speaker 1: going into the game that he was going to start

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Speaker 1: game thinking this was actually what they had planned, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was hilarious. So he had no time to

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Speaker 1: be nervous, right right, But it was a great story,

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Speaker 1: great story, I mean, just what a what a way

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Speaker 1: to you know, kick off his career such a way,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and so crazy too. And he wasn't the

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Speaker 1: only one. I mean I went back and I listened

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Speaker 1: to it, and I loved Tony Romo where he has

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Speaker 1: this reaction that's like, man, did they keep this one

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Speaker 1: under wraps? But really it was so unexpected. To your point,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback didn't even know. No, I mean, no one knew.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. And you know, I think he and

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Speaker 1: even done that in the preseason or anything. But they

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Speaker 1: he ever had to, So they would spend a lot

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Speaker 1: in meetings and also after practices preparing him to take

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Speaker 1: over for that moment, but just not with the ones, right.

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Speaker 1: What really impressed you not only about how he played

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Speaker 1: You know, he's so comfortable in that pocket. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: this rapport with Keenan Allen that is kind of like

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Speaker 1: And I spoke to Keenan Allen about it and he said,

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Speaker 1: that's huge for a guy of his age. Yeah, being

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Speaker 1: able to compartmentalize is so important as a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Mike Williams, the emergence of him this season

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Speaker 1: almost feels like he's hitting a stride right now in

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Speaker 1: highlighted a lot more so getting to this Week three matchup,

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Speaker 1: this is a big one, the first AFC West game

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Speaker 1: We could have gotten not we I say we because

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Speaker 1: so often being on CBS, But going into that game,

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Speaker 1: They all Denvers having, you know, a successful start to

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Speaker 1: I think we're starting to see how competitive. It is

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Speaker 1: don't think you know, many of I think we thought,

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Speaker 1: Then you have the Ravens also depleted, you know, never

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Speaker 1: know justin Herbert's definitely looking forward to getting back out

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to the defense. It really does.

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Speaker 1: And I think on the Charger side also, and the

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Speaker 1: penalties are really a killer. And that was a game

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Speaker 1: the Chargers this week, getting to defenses. Kansas City's defense

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Speaker 1: Do you think maybe this is an opportunity for them

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Speaker 1: the offensive intensity that Kansas City brings and that's the key.

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Speaker 1: And it also comes down to your offense. Your offense

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it'll be like a shootout. You know, who

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Speaker 1: we've talked about that too. And for the Chargers, brand

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Speaker 1: new offense, brand new defense, they're learning as they're going.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of jelling together. It is early. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: I was expecting that versus Dallas last week. We didn't

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Speaker 1: I am, I really I really thought we were going

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Speaker 1: the penalty has caused a big play. You know, it

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Speaker 1: Whether it was a huge chunk play here or a

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Speaker 1: that being a shootout. It was kind of like a

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see them, you know, especially

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid being an offensive guy, he's going to fix things.

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Speaker 1: I think he came out very frustrated in that game.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like. I don't think he liked some of

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Speaker 1: certainly the turnovers off. You know, he was frustrated with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see that. And I

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Speaker 1: think Justin Herbert's going to come out and I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, kind of want to light it

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Speaker 1: up and show you know how he is against Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to always beat it. To be

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Speaker 1: the best, you gotta beat the best, right That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the key to when your Division two. They've led

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Speaker 1: it the last few years, so you got to top him.

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Speaker 1: Starts this week, Tracy. We appreciate you coming out. I

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Speaker 1: have to say before I let you go, this is

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Speaker 1: my third season doing Playmakers. You've been on every year

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Speaker 1: we've done it. Thank you so much for coming on,

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Speaker 1: taking time into sharing your insight. Kelly. I love what

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Speaker 1: you do. I am a huge supporter of yours. I

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Speaker 1: will come out anytime. Thanks for having me