WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Theda Bara

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. On Unearthed.

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<v Speaker 2>This week we talked about some graffiti that might be

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<v Speaker 2>a depiction of Theta Barra if you thought while listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Unearthed, who's that and what does the word vamp

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with it? Today's Saturday Classic, we'll solve

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<v Speaker 2>that mystery. This originally came out May fourth, twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a

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<v Speaker 2>production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Holly Fryne and I'm Tracy V.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are going to talk about someone I love

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<v Speaker 2>in history, which is Theda Bara, who is often referenced

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<v Speaker 2>as the first sex symbol or the first celebrity to

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<v Speaker 2>have an entire persona crafted by a PR team. Photos

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<v Speaker 2>of her are pretty synonymous with the word vamp. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tracy mentioned to me that she didn't have any name recognition,

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<v Speaker 2>but the second she saw a picture, she's like, oh that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that person yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And one hundred years later, pictures of her still have

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<v Speaker 2>a certain mysterious appeal. But she was a very different person,

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<v Speaker 2>I think than most people might know. And it always

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<v Speaker 2>cracks me up a little when people kind of model

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<v Speaker 2>their look after her, and I'm like, yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she was actually pretty tame. So today I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>would be interesting to look at how this early film

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity was basically created through careful planning by a PR team,

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<v Speaker 2>and how the real woman was a whole lot different

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<v Speaker 2>from that faux persona that they made up. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 2>start with totally different name. She was born Theodosia Goodman

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<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati, Ohio, on July twenty ninth, eighteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents were Bernard Goodman and Pauline Louis friends was

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Cope. Bernard was originally from Jorsela, Poland and worked

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<v Speaker 2>as a tailor. Pauline's father was French. Her mother was German,

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<v Speaker 2>although she had been born and grew up in Switzerland

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<v Speaker 2>and worked as a wig maker. Bernard and Pauline got

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<v Speaker 2>married in eighteen eighty two, and Theodosia was their first child.

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<v Speaker 2>Then in eighteen eighty eight they had a son named Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>and then in eighteen ninety seven, Bernard and Pauline had

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<v Speaker 2>another daughter named Esther, who would eventually go by Laurie.

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<v Speaker 2>Theodosia was named after Aaron Burr's daughter, who we have

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<v Speaker 2>an episode on. Yeah, she's some versions of her name.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see Burr as a middle name, and I never

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<v Speaker 2>was able to verify whether that was true or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a little confused when people noted that she was named

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<v Speaker 2>for Theodosia, br Auto completed that middle name right. Her childhood, though,

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<v Speaker 2>was a pretty comfortable one. The good Men's lived in

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<v Speaker 2>an affluent neighborhood, and Theodosia, Mark, and Laurie were all

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<v Speaker 2>quite close. They had two women who worked for them

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<v Speaker 2>as house staff named Anna Tusenig and Ida day Birth

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<v Speaker 2>and Theodosia loved to read, and she would often opt

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<v Speaker 2>to do that over any other activity. But she was

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<v Speaker 2>not a quiet, bookish child, because she could also be

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<v Speaker 2>a handful. She frequently pilfered her mother's closet to create

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<v Speaker 2>elaborate dress up ensembles, and she was prone to getting

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<v Speaker 2>all dressed up in those and then running away from home.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so likely to run off when she was

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<v Speaker 2>still quite small that her parents had to have a

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<v Speaker 2>new tall fence specially installed around their yard. As she

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<v Speaker 2>grew up, Theodosia's love for dress up evolved into a

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<v Speaker 2>desire to stage tableau and that was a popular parlor

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment at the time. She would recreate scene after scene

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<v Speaker 2>and perform recitations to go with these scenes there with

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<v Speaker 2>no surprise. This led her to want to get involved

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<v Speaker 2>in acting. Soon she was staging her own productions in

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<v Speaker 2>a neighbor's barn. She continued to act as she grew

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<v Speaker 2>into her teenage years. She read everything she could about

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<v Speaker 2>the actors of the day. She was really focused on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I find this very charming as somebody who put on

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<v Speaker 2>plays in the basement of the family home. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh icnned teachers into letting me do full blown, like

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<v Speaker 2>multi act puppet shows in elementary school. So it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because she was obsessed with the idea of actors and

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<v Speaker 2>acting at a time when, like stage actors were really

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, but there was some transition going on to film,

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<v Speaker 2>and she apparently read like every article she could about

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<v Speaker 2>everything they did in their day to day lives. Like

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<v Speaker 2>she was that kid that was like could tell you

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<v Speaker 2>everything that like any given actor of the day, like

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<v Speaker 2>to eat, like to wear.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, she was that kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Theodosia, who was known to her friends largely as Theo,

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<v Speaker 2>attended Walnut Hills high school. Starting in eighteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>she worked on the school paper, and she joined the

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<v Speaker 2>drama club, and she was known always for her ambition

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<v Speaker 2>to go into acting as a career. After graduating high

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<v Speaker 2>school in nineteen oh three, she attended University of Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>for two years, but at that point she was starting

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<v Speaker 2>to feel frustrated glee club, which she was a part of,

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<v Speaker 2>did not offer her the theatrical outlet that she really

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<v Speaker 2>longed for. She frankly wanted more than she felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati had to offer, So in nineteen oh five, the

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<v Speaker 2>age of twenty, Theo decided to pursue a career on

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<v Speaker 2>the stage. In that effort, she moved to New York City,

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<v Speaker 2>and her father was reportedly not pleased with any of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Once she got to New York, Theodosa changed her last

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<v Speaker 2>name from Goodman to her mother's maiden name of de Coppet.

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<v Speaker 2>She would later riff off of this name. She would

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<v Speaker 2>change out the vowels, try out different variations. We know

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<v Speaker 2>that she lived in Greenwich Village in an apartment just

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<v Speaker 2>off Washington Square, but beyond that we don't know a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot in terms of the specifics of her first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years of New York. The first play she's

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<v Speaker 2>documented as having been cast in was the nineteen oh

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<v Speaker 2>eight summer production of The Devil. She was a minor

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<v Speaker 2>character in that one. After that, There's another Gap, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she was part of the second string touring company

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<v Speaker 2>for a musical called The Quaker Girl. She was paid

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five dollars a week initially, although after some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>bad reviews her salary was reduced to eighteen dollars a week,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she left the troop. Those reviews were quite scathing,

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<v Speaker 2>things about how really abysmal her French accent was, and

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<v Speaker 2>how even like a five year old wouldn't be confused

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<v Speaker 2>or convinced they were mean. Theo continued to pursue acting,

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<v Speaker 2>and she kept taking parts in touring companies, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was not at all to her liking life on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>The tight quarters shared with other performers and the decidedly

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<v Speaker 2>non luxurious accommodations were things that she would later describe

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<v Speaker 2>as quote unpleasant associations. This was just not the acting

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<v Speaker 2>career she had envisioned. She left a touring company that

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<v Speaker 2>was running a farce called Us Like John in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and At that point, she went back to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mother, Pauline, and her teenage sister Laurie soon joined

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<v Speaker 2>her there. And just as she was feeling her most

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated and dejected over what seemed like a career that

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<v Speaker 2>would never happen, another bad thing happened, which is at

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment she shared with her mother and sister had

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<v Speaker 2>a fire and it basically was unlivable. It burned out.

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<v Speaker 2>They were able to get by thanks to insurance money,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was this very real concern kind of looming

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<v Speaker 2>over the whole thing that Theodosia's dreams were just not

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<v Speaker 2>going to work out. In late nineteen fourteen, Theo was

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<v Speaker 2>approached by a man who asked her if she might

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<v Speaker 2>want to try being in movies. The man who approached

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<v Speaker 2>her was Frank Powell. Powell hailed from Ontario, Canada, and

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<v Speaker 2>had become an actor himself before transitioning into the director's chair.

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<v Speaker 2>He had worked for Pathay Pictures before Fox lured him

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<v Speaker 2>away from them, and it was just before he started

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<v Speaker 2>at Fox that he saw Theo and saw something in

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<v Speaker 2>her that he thought might be great for film. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no record of the specific place where the two of

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<v Speaker 2>them had this first conversation. This was, of course a

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<v Speaker 2>time when the movie industry was in its infancy, but

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<v Speaker 2>it already had some established stars like Mary Pickford. A

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<v Speaker 2>career in film was not really something Theodosia had been pursuing.

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<v Speaker 2>According to her later accounts of being discovered, she saw

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<v Speaker 2>herself as a stage actress. She wanted Broadway, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was not particularly interested in jumping into the still fairly

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<v Speaker 2>new medium of moving pictures. But at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>she had to acknowledge that her theater career was not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly going gangbusters. She was also thirty, so she was

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<v Speaker 2>starting to hit the point where she was seen as

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<v Speaker 2>too old for most of the lead roles that she wanted. Initially,

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<v Speaker 2>she was curvy, and that figure had fallen out of favor.

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<v Speaker 2>People were looking more for longer, leaner physique. So she gambled,

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<v Speaker 2>and she took Fred Powell at his word on this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about her as a curvy person

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<v Speaker 2>in our behind the scenes. Yeah, because I really think

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<v Speaker 2>she looks quite thin in most of her pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The first project that Frank Powell put Theo in was

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<v Speaker 2>actually a film called The Stain, which he made while

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<v Speaker 2>he was still finishing up his contract at Patha. Theodosha

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<v Speaker 2>was cast in just a tiny role. This was really

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<v Speaker 2>her screen test. Powell made sure that she was positioned

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<v Speaker 2>near the camera so that he could see how she

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<v Speaker 2>played on screen, and he was very pleased after that.

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<v Speaker 2>William Fox, the head of the studio, also reviewed the

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<v Speaker 2>footage and liked it, and so sat down with THEO

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<v Speaker 2>for an interview. Both men thought that she was right

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<v Speaker 2>for a very unusual and difficult to cast role they

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<v Speaker 2>were working on, and they offered her a five year

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<v Speaker 2>contract at the studio at a rate of one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars per week. THEO negotiated that up to one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty dollars per week before she signed, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is how an unknown landed a leading role in the

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming project called A Fool There Was for Fox Film Company.

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<v Speaker 2>The studio, though also knew this was a gamble. Theodosia's

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<v Speaker 2>co star in the picture was Edward Jose who was

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<v Speaker 2>a famous Broadway actor at the time, so casting this

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<v Speaker 2>complete newcomer to film was something that William Fox, who

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<v Speaker 2>was the head of Fox Films, was concerned about. So

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<v Speaker 2>the solution was to construct this really alluring persona for her,

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<v Speaker 2>and her name had been the first to go. She

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<v Speaker 2>was going by Theodosia de cape or to cop It

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<v Speaker 2>or as we said, many other variations she tried out.

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<v Speaker 2>None of them were really zinging, So after considering her

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<v Speaker 2>nicknames of Theo and Teddy, which her family members also

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes called her, they landed another nickname, Theta, and decided

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<v Speaker 2>that was the one. And then for the last name,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted something far easier than any of the on

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<v Speaker 2>Dakopit or Decape, and her maternal grandfather had been named

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<v Speaker 2>Francois Berngais, and that last name was shortened to Bearra.

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<v Speaker 2>As a quick aside, you'll see different versions of how

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<v Speaker 2>this played out, how much of it was her idea

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<v Speaker 2>versus the studios, which studio executives kept credit for which pieces,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm calling it a group effort because there are

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<v Speaker 2>so many different versions. So once her name was figured

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<v Speaker 2>out and rendered on that Fox contract, it was time

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<v Speaker 2>to get to work, and we will talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>After a quick sponsor break in the autumn of nineteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>with the contract for Theta Bea in place, filming for

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<v Speaker 2>a fool, there was could finally get under way. The

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<v Speaker 2>picture was shot in part on location on the Florida

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<v Speaker 2>coast at Saint Augustine, and right out of the gate

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<v Speaker 2>there were some interesting problems. The cast and crew for

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<v Speaker 2>the film were sent down to the location along the

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<v Speaker 2>Atlantic coast on a steamer that was a German steamer.

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<v Speaker 2>It was called the Essen, and because World War One

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<v Speaker 2>was freshly underway, this raised some concern. They also were

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<v Speaker 2>not flying a US flag, which apparently was part of

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. The British Navy stopped them, and things got

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<v Speaker 2>more tricky because Theda's co star, Edward jose answered questions

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<v Speaker 2>that had been posed to him in German by also

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<v Speaker 2>speaking German. He was fluent and that was just the

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<v Speaker 2>natural way to do it. But this made the British

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<v Speaker 2>utterly convinced that they had trapped a boatful, perhaps of

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<v Speaker 2>spies or other operatives, and it took a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>frantic explaining and finally a cable from the studio to

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<v Speaker 2>get things smoothed over just so they could get to

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<v Speaker 2>the shooting location. Even once they were on location and

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<v Speaker 2>filming started, none of this project was the glamorous scenario

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<v Speaker 2>that Theda had envisioned. There was a huge crowd of

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<v Speaker 2>onlookers that had come to see a movie being made

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<v Speaker 2>the pier where she shot her first scene. The early

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<v Speaker 2>makeup for film was not something that looked good in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, so she felt like she was being gawked

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<v Speaker 2>at while also not feeling pretty at all. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing was harrowing. Barra later said of the moment, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole world seemed to have turned into human eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I trembled, I shook, I all but died right there

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<v Speaker 2>on the dock. She also had to wear a bathing

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<v Speaker 2>suit in the film, and she was so mortified by

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<v Speaker 2>that that she almost quit.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't need to be worried, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though she wore this bathing suit for the shot,

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<v Speaker 2>there were objections from the censors and that led to

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<v Speaker 2>that scene being cut out. Yeah, that was a time

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<v Speaker 2>where there were places you could still get arrested for

0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.959
<v Speaker 2>wearing a bathing suit because it was seen as obscene.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire transition into film acting was really incredibly stressful

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<v Speaker 2>for Theda. She did not get to rehearse, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the earliest scenes she shot are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>extra pantomimey because of course these are all silent. You

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<v Speaker 2>can watch the film online easily enough and see for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Even after filming, there was more work and more than

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<v Speaker 2>Theda Bara had expected. As the film was being edited,

0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Edward Jose got in a contract dispute with Fox, and

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<v Speaker 2>he left the studio and refused to do any promotion

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<v Speaker 2>For a fool there was so suddenly this total newcomer

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<v Speaker 2>was the only person they had to promote the film

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<v Speaker 2>as one of its leads. The studio had already been

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<v Speaker 2>working on ways to turn Theda into a sensation, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Now all the eggs had to be in one.

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<v Speaker 2>Basket, So the studio created a whole biography of her. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They had actually been working on it while filming was

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and the story they ended up with was

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<v Speaker 2>a doozy and it was completely captivating to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>everyone but for various reasons. But they also didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>if this was gonna work. At first. This was such

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<v Speaker 2>an outlandish tape and it was so overboard in so

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<v Speaker 2>many ways as you were going to see because we'll

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<v Speaker 2>walk you through it, that there was concern that no

0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.880
<v Speaker 2>one would buy it. It was just too sensational. So

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<v Speaker 2>the PR department put together a press conference that was

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<v Speaker 2>really a big stunt. So the framing of this bogus

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<v Speaker 2>event was that it was for the first run of

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<v Speaker 2>press before the premiere of a fool there was the

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<v Speaker 2>studio is going to have an event in Chicago and

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<v Speaker 2>invite a select group of reporters. The team turned a

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<v Speaker 2>hotel meeting room into an Egyptian fantasy just to set

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<v Speaker 2>the stage for the introduction of Theta.

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<v Speaker 1>Bara to the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Al Sellig and John Goldfrapp worked for the studio as

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<v Speaker 2>its public relations team, and while mingling with the assembled reporters,

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<v Speaker 2>they talked about how Borrow was the toast of Paris

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<v Speaker 2>and what a fine she was, and how excited they

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<v Speaker 2>were to be debuting her talent in the US. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>she had never even been to Paris. According to their story,

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<v Speaker 2>which was presented to members of the press before the

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<v Speaker 2>introduction of Fox's new thrilling talent, her mother was a

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<v Speaker 2>French actress named Theta Delize, and her father, Giuseppe Bara,

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<v Speaker 2>was a sculptor from Italy. To give Theodosia's new persona

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<v Speaker 2>an entirely new level of exoticism, she was born quote

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<v Speaker 2>in the shadow of the Pyramids, This happened after her

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<v Speaker 2>mother had met her father while touring in Egypt. Even

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<v Speaker 2>the fake parent meet cute was sort of needlessly, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, dramatic. According to it, Delize had found the

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<v Speaker 2>sculptor wandering and lost in the sands of Egypt, disoriented

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<v Speaker 2>and having abandoned everything he had as he wandered the desert.

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<v Speaker 2>Giuseppe was saved by Delze, and they fell in love,

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<v Speaker 2>and they lived in a tent near the Sphinx.

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<v Speaker 1>So if this sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous, brace yourselves, because this story went even further. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a foolish account of Theda's early life in the desert,

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<v Speaker 2>with dialogue written as though it had been captured by

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<v Speaker 2>the actor. Wistfully remembering her childhood, describing their tent home

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<v Speaker 2>as quote like the garden of Eden, she described how

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<v Speaker 2>her mother had taught her about acting, while her father

0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.880
<v Speaker 2>had educated her in art, and after describing this early,

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<v Speaker 2>totally fictional homeschooling, she would end with quote and through

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<v Speaker 2>the instruction of both, I learned the symphony of the soul.

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<v Speaker 2>When Theda was still a child. According to this story,

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<v Speaker 2>her parents moved from Egypt to Paris, and just for clarity,

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<v Speaker 2>This is not her saying these things. These are press

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<v Speaker 2>people claiming these quotes were from her. It was all

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<v Speaker 2>very ridiculous. According to the studio story, Bara performed with

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<v Speaker 2>all of the noteworthy theatrical companies of Paris, including with

0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.119
<v Speaker 2>actor Jane Hadding at the Grand Guignot, which we have

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<v Speaker 2>an entire episode on the gymnase and the te Flenttoine

0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Cellig and Goldfrap just gushed to the attending members of

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<v Speaker 2>the press that Theda had this massive following in Paris

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.400
<v Speaker 2>and that she had been discovered there by Frank Powell.

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<v Speaker 2>Since this press event took place in January of nineteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>it offered the Fox pr team an opportunity to use

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<v Speaker 2>the events of World War One to further elaborate on

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<v Speaker 2>Bara's arrival in the United States. When Germany had declared

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<v Speaker 2>war on Russia, France, and Belgium in August of nineteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>Powell had quickly moved to escape Paris, and he took

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<v Speaker 2>this newly discovered talent with him. After all of this

0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:44.520
<v Speaker 2>incredibly thrilling exposition to explain to reporters just who exactly

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<v Speaker 2>they were about to meet this velvet curtain was opened,

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<v Speaker 2>and there sat the enthralling Theda Bara, making her debut

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<v Speaker 2>to the world. She was seated on a chaise lounge

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<v Speaker 2>that was covered in tiger skins, and her incredibly pale

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.720
<v Speaker 2>skin and jet black hair made her look like she

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<v Speaker 2>came from another country or culture, but also a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit otherworldly in a more mystical sense, right in line

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<v Speaker 2>with this vampiric character she was playing. In a fool

0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.600
<v Speaker 2>there was. Although this was a presser, there was no

0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Q and a session. Theda Bara gave a series of

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.760
<v Speaker 2>statements for reporters to quote, and these statements were very,

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<v Speaker 2>very well worded, more than one might anticipate from an

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<v Speaker 2>actor who had only just moved to the United States

0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and supposedly didn't grow up speaking English. That did not

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<v Speaker 2>seem to trouble the attendees, though Theda said things like, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I have succeeded in depicting the complex emotions

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of this woman as vividly as they have appealed to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was this whole double angle being played by

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Sellig and Goldfrap in all of this. Once Theda had

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<v Speaker 2>given all of these statements, the press conference ended and

0:19:56.119 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 2>the room was cleared. However, one carefully selected reporter was

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>allowed to stay like just under the guise of like,

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 2>they didn't rush her out, and that was Luella Parsons, who,

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 2>of course would go on to become a very famous

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood gossip columnist. But that day, when she was still

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.800
<v Speaker 2>a CUB reporter, they kind of picked her because she

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<v Speaker 2>was green, and she got to witness Theda Bara whipping

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<v Speaker 2>off all of the heavy velvets and furs and veils

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.120
<v Speaker 2>that she had been wearing as part of this act

0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and running to a window to throw it open, and

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<v Speaker 2>dropping the accent she had been using throughout the presser

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<v Speaker 2>as she groaned.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me air.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a genius move on the part of Box's

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<v Speaker 2>pr team. Seleig and Goldfrap knew that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the old school reporters in the room would never buy

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:47.640
<v Speaker 2>this whole yarn they had spun regarding Bara's backstory. Some

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:52.200
<v Speaker 2>reporters even recognized her as Theodosia to cop it from

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>her days in the theater. But simultaneously ensuring that world

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.959
<v Speaker 2>would get out that this was all an act, they

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 2>kept Theda's name in the papers. Some papers ran straight

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 2>stories that relayed the outlandish details they'd been told that

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 2>day as though they were fact, while others mocked the

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 2>papers that did that, and yet others wrote pieces pondering

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<v Speaker 2>what the truth really was. So she became a celebrity

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.560
<v Speaker 2>before anyone even saw her film. So smart, So manipulative,

0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:25.959
<v Speaker 2>but so smart. As an aside, this type of revising

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 2>and rewriting of a person's life to create essentially a

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 2>new character that they played as their public persona was

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.159
<v Speaker 2>actually pretty common. It was a very successful way to

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 2>drum up public interest in stars and consequently to drive

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.720
<v Speaker 2>box office numbers up. But it was also done obviously

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>with zero consideration or awareness of things like cultural appropriation.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned earlier that this was really a play on

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<v Speaker 2>like this penchant for exoticism that people had, where they

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.160
<v Speaker 2>really were not thinking about cultures as anything but kind

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of things they could pick and choose from as of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>And just as Theda Bara was allegedly a blend of

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 2>French and Arab characteristics as plucked not from reality but

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.600
<v Speaker 2>from the imaginations of studio executives, a lot of other

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:17.479
<v Speaker 2>actors had that same transformation. For example, Josephine M. Workman,

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 2>a young woman from California, was re christened as Princess

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Mona Darkfeather by Bison Motion Pictures. While Workman's paternal grandmother

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was Taus Pueblo, it does not appear that any real

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>cultural connection was ever integrated into that fictional persona of

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Dark Feather, Although Workman became the go to choice when

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<v Speaker 2>a film needed to fill Native American roles for women.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just one example, but there are so many

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<v Speaker 2>similar stories in early film history. So while Theda Bara

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the biggest stars to have such a transformation,

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<v Speaker 2>she was really not an outlier in the least. The

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<v Speaker 2>title card for Bara's debut film reads, William Fox presents

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.919
<v Speaker 2>a fo There was a psychological drama by Porter Emerson Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next card features a poem that reads,

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<v Speaker 2>a fool there was, and he made his prayer even

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<v Speaker 2>as you and I to a rag and a bone

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<v Speaker 2>and a hank of hair. We called her the woman

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>who did not care, but the fool. He called her

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<v Speaker 2>his lady fair, even as you and I. So though

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<v Speaker 2>the author is not mentioned, that poem is the opening

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<v Speaker 2>of a piece also called The Vampire, which was written

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<v Speaker 2>by Rudyard Kipling. It was quite famous at the time,

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and that poem was written to a company a painting

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 2>that had been made by Kipling's cousin, Philip Burne Jones,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 2>which was also called The Vampire. The painting, which was

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<v Speaker 2>inspired by bram Stoker's Dracula, shows a dark haired woman

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<v Speaker 2>sitting on the edge of a bed, leaning over a

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>man who appears unconscious with his limbs splayed out, and

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>that painting led to the poem, and then led to

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<v Speaker 2>a play and a book by Porter Emerson Brown, and

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<v Speaker 2>then to the screenplay, and the cast is introduced one

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<v Speaker 2>by one in the opening credits at a pace that

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>most modern viewers would find almost confusingly slow. I know,

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I've watched a couple of very old films lately where

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been like, man, this is taking so long. Yes,

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like, uh, they introduced the fool in Jose's character,

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like a full minute and a half

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 2>of like his character like on a boat waving. Yeah,

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:33.199
<v Speaker 2>seems a little a little pokey by our usual editing today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So miss Theda Bara is introduced as the vampire in

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 2>her first shot, the one that was so challenging for

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>her to film. She's wearing a striking outfit consisting of

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<v Speaker 2>a black blouse and a dramatic striped skirt and an

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>angled hat. She's paler than anyone else in the film.

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<v Speaker 2>But though her character is called the Vampire, and based

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<v Speaker 2>on that description that Tracy just gave, it might seem

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 2>that she was being portrayed as an actual vampire. And

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>though her victim goes just as mad as Renfield, this

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 2>is not an actual vampire tale. Rather, it is the

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>story of a woman who is so powerfully attractive and

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<v Speaker 2>so void of compassion or morality that she drains men

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>dry before moving on to the next To illustrate just

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 2>how cold her character is, in one scene, a former

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 2>lover she has recently left shows up where she is

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and dies by suicide in front of her. That actual

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>death is not shown on screen. The film cuts abruptly,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's followed by a scene where two men

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 2>are discussing how the woman laughed demonically when this young

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>man took his life. The main plot of the film

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>features a character who's a lawyer and a diplomat who

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<v Speaker 2>has known both as the Fool and by his character's

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>name John Skuyler, who's a good family man until he's

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>lured away by the vampire, who steals him from his

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 2>family in a calculated scheme. Skyler has chosen to be

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>envoy to Great Britain, and his wife was set to

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>go with him until her sister became ill in an accident,

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 2>so this successful man was now traveling alone. When the

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.479
<v Speaker 2>vampire reads at this important trip being undertaken by an

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>important man, she arranges to sail on the same ship,

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's where she draws him in. So the audience

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually see anything especially sexual here, although for a

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 2>time there's some flirting that was probably borderline scandalous at

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the time. Instead, after the two of them meet, the

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>film jumps forward two months in time to see them

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>living as a couple in Europe, and the plot plays

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>out from there, with Skuyler's dutiful wife learning of this

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>affair and Skyler very visibly losing his vitality and losing

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 2>everything in his life, his job, his family, et cetera.

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Unable to tear himself away from the vampire, is shown

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>drinking more and more heavily until he is barely recognizable

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>as the man from the beginning of the sixty five

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>minute picture. Theda is cool and glamorous throughout the picture,

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>even as she does progressively uglier and uglier things. And

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>her large eyes were rimmed with a halo of coal.

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>And this was a look that became her trademarks throughout

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 2>her career. And for all of this she was dressed exquisitely.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about the public and critical reception to the

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 2>film and Theda after we hear from the sponsors that

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>keeps stuffy missed in history class going when a Fool

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>There was was released. Audiences loved Theda Bara. She intrigued them,

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 2>she scared them, She enthralled them. It seems just as

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 2>her character, the vampire had enthralled John Schuyler and critics

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>were also very enthusiastic about this newcomer. The film was

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 2>called bold and relentless by the New York Dramatic Mirror,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and The New York Morning Telegraph wrote of Theda Bara

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that she had created quote the most revolting but fascinating

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>character that has appeared upon the screen for some time.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Another paper touted, ahead of its run of the film,

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>quote it is said that her seductive beauty gives to

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the role a realism that is powerful to the extreme.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 2>She already had a degree of celebrity in the weeks

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>leading up to the film's release, but once it was out,

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>she was undeniably famous. The film also saved Fox Film Studio,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>which went from hosting a debt at the end of

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>fiscal year nineteen fourteen to making several million dollars in

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifteen and then clearing the year with more than

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>half a million after expenses. Not everyone, we should point out,

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 2>loved this new style of screen star, and there were

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>definitely some complaints to the National Board of Censorship about

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 2>this powerful woman who was using sexual as a weapon.

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 2>There were also complaints about some of her very revealing

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 2>costumes and subsequent pictures. That's something that seems a little

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>bit funny, given how trepidacious she was to wear a

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 2>bathing suit in her first film. If you go looking

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>for photos of her online, there are some that are

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>incredibly revealing. And then there were also people who just

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.239
<v Speaker 2>could not really separate film from reality and believed she

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 2>was actually a professional home wrecker that had just been

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>using her natural abilities to be caught on film, rather

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>than being a very good actress, and after she received

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>a letter to that effect from one viewer, she wrote

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>back that if she were that type of woman, she

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>would not have to work as an actor. She also

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>told the press quote, the vampire that I play is

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the vengeance of my sex upon its exploiters. You see,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I have the face of the vampire, but the heart

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>of a feminist. Theta starred in forty films over the

0:29:55.600 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>next four years, which is incredible to me. This included Salome, Cleopatra, Sin,

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 2>the Serpent, and Destruction, among many others. Her specialty became

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>the so called vamp role, which was a woman who

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>would lead men to their ruin. That's still how the

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>word is used today, and it was really Theda Bara

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 2>who gave rise to that use. The first known use

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of a noun describing such a woman was in nineteen eighties,

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>so that just was right in line with Barra's career.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>The pr team at Fox continued to feed stories about

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>her to the press to maintain the mystique of the

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>character of Theda Bara. For example, they planted a story

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that her name was an anagram for the words Arab death.

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>This kind of sensationalism sometimes clashed with her real life,

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>which was actually quite stable and pretty conventional. As her

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>fortunes had improved, her brother Mark moved to New York

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>to live with Theda Louri and their mother, Pauline. Their father, Bernard,

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>stayed behind in Cincinnati to keep the tailor business going.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>But the problem here was that the studio couldn't have

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>pressed to any interviews at Theda's apartment. It was not

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>nearly dramatic enough. No one, they thought, wanted to see

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the devil woman of the screen surrounded by her loving,

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>close knit family in a tastefully decorated apartment in Los Angeles.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Though the studio arrived for her to have a house

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>on West Adams Boulevard, which was decorated in a style

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to match her concocted persona. She allegedly hated that house

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and sold it as soon as she could. Yeah, she

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>was no fool, though, and she played the part when

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>she gave interviews. When a reporter visited the set of

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Carmen during filming, Bara allegedly went full bore in a

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>scene that involved a fight with another actress, causing a

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>nurse to have to attend to the co star it's

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>not clear if this conflict was staged.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>For the press.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>The reporter asked questions about Barra's past, and the actor replied, quote,

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I live under the shadow of a tragedy.

0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Forget it, and I want the world I once knew

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to forget it. That is the reason I wished Theodebara

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>to be unknown save for her pictures. Having learned Every

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Chicken the Book from Fox pr she told the same reporter, quote,

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>it is predicted I shall die in nineteen twenty two.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>She's very good at doing her her public persona. She

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>did not die in nineteen twenty two, but in nineteen

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>nineteen her contract with Fox ended, and the mid rumors

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that negotiations were going quite poorly. The decision was made

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>that it would not be renewed. You will see that

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>reported as her decision or their decision, probably both. She

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 2>did take a role in a stage play in nineteen

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty called The Blue Flame, which opened on Broadway in

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>March of that year, but that play was very, very hokey,

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and it had flopped. Reviews of her performance were brutal.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Critic Lewis Reid wrote that her performance was quote not

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>really worth fifteen minutes of time and said the play

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>was quote the most terrible play within the memory of

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the writer. This play was not a comedy, but people

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>started going just to laugh at it, which felt terrible

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>for everyone involved. Theda never managed to have the theatrical

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>career that she had always dreamed of. In nineteen twenty one,

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Theda married English director Charles Braven in secret. They did

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>not even publicly acknowledge the marriage for months. They went

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 2>to Canada for their honeymoon, they fell in love with

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Nova Scotia, and later on they bought land there. Theta

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>had been in the middle of a vaudeville tour when

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the two of them snuck away for the wedding, and

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>then she did not sign up for another one. Charles

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and Theta did not always mesh when it came to

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>their careers. Charles did not think that Theda should keep working,

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>and he also hated attending public events with her. But

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>they did seem to have a pretty good understanding of

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>one another, and they respected one another's needs in their

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>established careers. Often they would spend weeks at a time

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>apart as one or the other raveled or worked, and

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>then they would come back together and live quite happily,

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 2>and that was a system that seemed to work really,

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>really well for their dynamic. After the honeymoon, Thedo was

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 2>ready to get back to work, but she had a

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>hard time finding roles without a studio contract, and with

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the heyday of her Vamp persona having passed in favor

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>of more conventional screen stars, Mara just couldn't get a gig. Finally,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>after several false starts on other projects, she made The

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Unchastened Woman in nineteen twenty five, but the comedy drama

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 2>about married life didn't do very well. In nineteen twenty six,

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Thea made her last film, which was Matdam Mystery. This

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>was a short directed by Richard Wallace and Stan Laurel.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.479
<v Speaker 2>Thedo was actually quite good at comedy, it turned out,

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and producer Hal Roach wanted her for more in a series,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 2>but Charles didn't like the to doing these films and

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>she didn't like it when she saw it, So that

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>was that. With the contract canceled, Thedo was officially retired

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>from acting, although she did a couple of radio plays

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen thirties. You can still find Madame Mystery

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>to watch online and see for yourself. She's got pretty

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>good comedic timing. It's kind of a pity to me

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that she didn't like it, because I can only assume

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>after having done a bunch of dramatic stuff, it just

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel right for her to see herself doing silly things.

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>But she's quite good.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>You can also find a fool there was online easy

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 2>to watch. However, beyond that, you're going to run into

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>some problems because most of her films are lost. That's

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>due to a fire at the Fox Film Vault in

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty seven. Compared to most celebrities of her time,

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Theda's private life was pretty uneventful. She never had any

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>affair scandals, never any public mishaps where she drank too

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>much and did something embarrassing.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>She didn't blow all over fortune.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>She was financially stable her entire life after her fame

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 2>sort of tapered out. She seemed to love her husband,

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and they seemed genuinely pretty happy together, even though others

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>found their periods of separation unconventional. After her retirement, she

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>did as she pleased. She traveled sometimes with Charles, sometimes

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>with her mother and her siblings. Yeah, there's not a

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of info about her retirement life because she was

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 2>just kind of chill. And then she passed on April seventh,

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty five. She died of stomach cancer. Charles died

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>two years later. To sum up the incredibly powerful allure

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>of Theda Bara and nod to how much of it

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 2>really was just great acting skill, Holly wanted to close

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 2>with a quote from Luella Parsons, which she wrote in

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 2>late nineteen fifteen, when Theda's fame was really cemented. Her

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>hair is like the serpent's locks of Medusa. Her eyes

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>have the cruel cunning of Lucrezia Borgia, till now held

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 2>up as the world's wickedest woman. Her mouth is the

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 2>mouth of the sinister, scheming Delilah, and her hands are

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 2>those of the blood bathing Elizabeth Bathory, who slaughtered young

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>girls that she might bathe in them the lifeblood and

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 2>so retain her beauty. Can it be that fate has

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>reincarnated in Theda Bara the souls of these monsters of

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>medieval times? Scientists have questioned this most extraordinary of women

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to secure fresh evidence to support their half proved laws

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 2>of transmigration of souls but the result has only been

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>to prove that though Miss Barrah is greatest delineator of

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 2>evil types on the stage or screen today, she is

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>in real life a sweet, wholesome woman who detests the abnormal.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I love that quote so much. When I stumbled across it,

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, There's no way this isn't how this

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 2>episode lands. It's a great way to sum up exactly

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 2>what was going on there because people did call her

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the wickedest woman alive, and the studio, of course, wanted

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to keep all of that going. She's a fun one.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.680
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