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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. Man, you meet your man nam

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Speaker 1: G Marcus Grant, alongside the Fantasy Hall of Famer Michael

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Speaker 1: Fabiano and the next Gen stats Guru Ram Barfield. Happy July, fellas, dude,

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Speaker 1: where did the first like six months of this year ago?

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Speaker 1: We're like halfway more than halfway to Christmas. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: It goes fast every year, every year, just faster and

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Speaker 1: faster and faster. I mean it's funny because you know,

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Speaker 1: since I've been working here for a number of years,

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Speaker 1: I talk to people, I tell them what I do,

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Speaker 1: and they always say, so, what are you doing in

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Speaker 1: the off season? And I just laugh, like, what do

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Speaker 1: you what is this off season? You talk about the

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Speaker 1: still stuff to do. I have no idea what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Um. Yeah, So, like I said, NFL summers

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Speaker 1: like six weeks long. It's like from June one. It's

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Speaker 1: because then training camp opens, uh and NFL Summer is open.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's it, man, That's what I'm trying to get,

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Speaker 1: like all my social events sort of like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: Got to see these people, because once we get to

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Speaker 1: the end of this month, like it's it's it's all

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Speaker 1: over for the social life. What what Labor Day is

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Speaker 1: to most of America, July four is to like to

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Speaker 1: the NFL meeting. It's so funny. And when I explained

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Speaker 1: that to my friends too, it's just like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: on summer now. It's just like, dude, it's it's barely summer.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, for me, I go back to work.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much over exactly. It's I got planned and

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Speaker 1: talking about we'll do another round of Hype Train or

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Speaker 1: Smoke Screen. There's some stories that hit the news recently.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Joe Pizzapia, who was the author of

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Black Book, Friend of the Program as well,

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts on some of the issues in fantasy football.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we'll have another fantasy draft of things just

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Speaker 1: in time for the big holiday, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: is why we are coming to you a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier this week. In fact, uh, it's a good time

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Speaker 1: to remind you we will be off next week. They

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Speaker 1: will be doing some renovations here in the studio. So

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Speaker 1: we felt like the between that and the fact that

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Speaker 1: good time for us to kind of go dark for

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like if I show up here,

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Speaker 1: YouTube when I showed up here, right, I don't know

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Speaker 1: the way to talk about But before we get started,

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Speaker 1: we will go behind the glass as always to talk

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Speaker 1: to our faithful producers. Senior Edward L. Murphy Esquire Murph,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Yeah, the worst thing that ever happened to

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Speaker 1: me this weekend was not the Kevin Durant not signing

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Speaker 1: so much in this podcast last few weeks, it's been gloomy,

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Speaker 1: really nice Saturday. So what did idea? It's been out

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Speaker 1: the waist up and my skins bubbling? So this is

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Speaker 1: really gonna like a freak is good? Good weekend man

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Speaker 1: um and other non fantasy news. Tweetck is back. Tweet

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Speaker 1: that tweet deck was down for like an hour and

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Speaker 1: my life was miserable as I was scrolling through Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But tweet deck is back, y'all. So like I can

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Speaker 1: let's do some news. The Steelers have been an interesting

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Speaker 1: found to fantasy conundrums this offseason. We talked plenty of

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Speaker 1: in the middle or towards the end of our twelve

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Speaker 1: team PPR mock draft, and uh, Connor was the last

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Speaker 1: let's not forget no Antonio Brown. You know, the Levian

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Speaker 1: He's almost like in that Leonard four Net area sometimes

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Speaker 1: loaded as number one wide receiver. Last year, a little

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Speaker 1: pick shots at Keishawn Johnson Um over Akim Butler over

426
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Speaker 1: Akim Butler. Yeah, because you know what, I know, Butler

427
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: is the guy who potentially is the red zone target.

428
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: I think, especially long term, Jonathan is one of those

429
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: guys who doesn't necessarily shine at any one thing, but

430
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: I think he's really good at a lot of different things. Yeah,

431
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: I think he's just you know, I think he's a

432
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: good route runner. I think he's got good hands, and

433
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: he was that guy that at the combine didn't blow

434
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: anybody away with his measurables, but when you saw him

435
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: run the drills, he was just kind of a guy

436
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: who turned some heads a little. I think people like

437
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: me kind of got a little to invest in Butler's measurables.

438
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: And now that there's reports coming out of camp that

439
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: all the receiver coaches are saying he's kind of raw,

440
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll play this year. I really

441
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 1: don't know if a Kim Butler is gonna play too

442
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: much this year because they've got three guys and as Isabella,

443
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: Fits and Kirk that technically kind of all play the

444
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: same position. But I'm imagining that they're going to move

445
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: these guys around. When I started to hear the Dorial

446
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: Green Beckham comparisons, I quickly jumped off of the Kim

447
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: Butler bandwagon. There's a lot of miles to feed there.

448
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent, there's a lot of upside there,

449
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of miles to feed. Let's not

450
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 1: forget Larry Fitzgerald. That's a player that now in the

451
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: industry is certainly starting to move up in drafts. I'm

452
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: noticing him being picked almost exclusively ahead of Christian Kirk

453
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: in most of the marks that I've been in. That's

454
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Speaker 1: insane to me. That's I know, I get I know,

455
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: I get it. But like you know, Larry Fitzgerald, I

456
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, I understand last season wasn't his best. I

457
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: believe he was still a top twenty five Fantasy wide

458
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: out and ppr um he had. He had some big

459
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: games a season ago, but he could end up being

460
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: that safety valve for for Kyler Murray in that offense.

461
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: So right now, among Cardinals fantasy players, it's it's David Johnson,

462
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: It's Fitzgerald, Christian Kirk and then uh, you know people

463
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: are grabbing Kyler Murray right. So yeah, that's They're gonna

464
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: be one of the more intriguing offensive stories, fantasy stories,

465
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: just football stories of the year. That's gonna be one

466
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Speaker 1: thing I can't wait to white. And I've said it

467
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: on previous podcast. There's so many offenses I'm so looking

468
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: forward to watching this year. Arizona is one of them.

469
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is one of them. Uh And and you know,

470
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Speaker 1: as a Cowboys fan, dallast because you know Kellen Moore like, okay,

471
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: like I want to see what happens with this Arizona.

472
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm interested to watch. I'm like, I'm curiously just really

473
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of in on it. Cincinnati. I'm sort of watching

474
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: from across the street with binoculars, Like I want to

475
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: be in on the Bengals. I definitely want to be Yeah,

476
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: so we'll see uh down in Baltimore. Robert Griffin the

477
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: Third says the Ravens new offense will quote shock some people.

478
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: This comes after his stories this offseason of Lamar Jackson

479
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: working on his throwing mechanics and being apparently really hard

480
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: on himself when he hasn't performed up to his standard

481
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: in practice. UM, I don't know. I mean, are you

482
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about this ground? I saw a

483
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: picture of Lamar on Instagram. He looks like he's put

484
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: on some weight in his upper body. Um, he was

485
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: super skinny in his upper body crying out of Louisville.

486
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: So maybe he's trying to bulk up to take an

487
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: NFL pounding. Obviously he took some monster, monster hits. When

488
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: you've had starts last year, I don't think they're gonna

489
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: shock anybody, though. They're gonna come up from the hell

490
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: out of the ball they were running it, Like what

491
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: are they going to drop down to sixty two now?

492
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, like where's the shock? You know what this

493
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: offense is. Look at what they've built this this this

494
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: is going to be a run based offense. With mark

495
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: Ingram behind him. You've got a lot of people are

496
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: high on Justice Hill as well, and at it and

497
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: and at wide receiver. I mean, you know, Marky's Brown

498
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: probably the only guy who get drafted in fantasy leagues. Um,

499
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: because well, they're not going to throw the ball that much.

500
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: But I do really like Lamar Jackson. When you can

501
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback who's for all intensive purpose as a

502
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: running back who carried the ball around seventeen times a

503
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: game last season, Um, who if you project his numbers

504
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: just rushing over a full year, Um, he's given you

505
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: over a thousand rushing yards. I mean that that's enough

506
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: to excite me. And um, he's a guy that I'm

507
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: going after as a QP two as much as I

508
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: can possibly get him, just because over the years we've

509
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: all learned no matter how poorly a guy throws the ball,

510
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think Lamar Jackson throws the ball that poorly,

511
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: like Tim Tebow. But when you can run the ball

512
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, it's going to make you valuable. And

513
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: he is a guy who showed last season how valuable

514
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: he can be. And he was an experience and now

515
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: he's got some experience on her his belt. I'm just

516
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through the Ravens wide receivers and I am

517
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: overcome with a heap and helping of them. I know

518
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: it's like where they got like like Jordan Lashley, They've

519
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: got Willie Snee, They've got Marky's Brown, Joe Horn Jr.

520
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Joe Horn the roster. If he scores a touchdown, you

521
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: think he'll pull out a cell phone, pull out a

522
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: cell phone. That would be so great if that happened,

523
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: that'd be amazing. I also do maybe this will be

524
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: a segment that we we do this year on the Pod,

525
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: like spin the Wheel of Ravens tight Ends and just

526
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: see if I like Mark Andrews though. I think he

527
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: could be a nice deep sleeper, I really do. Hayden

528
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: Hurst says he's healthy though, and he's I mean, look

529
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Speaker 1: and I I mean, I'm with you, but I just

530
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: feel like trying to trying to project a Ravens tight end.

531
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Speaker 1: Oh no, no doubt. It's just at least Max Williams

532
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: is no longer in the mix, so that whittle it

533
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: down a little bit, right, there's you know, still Nick Boiles.

534
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I don't know, man, um so Tom Brady,

535
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: who I don't know if he is great at social

536
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: media or the person he's hired to run his social

537
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: media is great at social media. But he posted a

538
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 1: video where he is throwing a football sixty one miles

539
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: per hour. That's pretty good. Um, you know, obviously it's

540
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: not it's not you can compare it to a baseball

541
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: pitcher in the end of that, but sixty one miles

542
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: for a football is pretty good. Um FABS does this

543
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: because Brady is one of those guys who I mean,

544
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: he's not getting drafted in a lot of leagues either.

545
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: Isn't that insane? I mean, this is kind of it's insane.

546
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: It's partially because the quarterback position is it's partially because

547
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: you know Tom Brady is and people are starting to

548
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of get concerned about when the cliff is coming.

549
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: The sixty one miles per hour make you change your

550
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 1: opinion at all of them. He's a Q two. I mean,

551
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: he's in my top twenty quarterbacks. Obviously he's going to

552
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: be in most people stop twenty quarterbacks. But um you know,

553
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: I had a research team take a look and see

554
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: what his numbers were within without Rob Gronkowski, almost a

555
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: three full fantasy points per game less when Gronkowski wasn't there.

556
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: And we don't know what's up with Josh Gordon. We

557
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: all love Nikil Harry because of the upside. We remember

558
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: the catch against USC. We look at the targets available

559
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: and Patriots have a whole lot of them. Sorry, but

560
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're bringing into Marius Thomas who

561
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: may or not even make the team, Morie Harris, Ben

562
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Watson who's suspended, Mount La Coss Gronkowski is gone, we

563
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: don't know what going on with Josh Gordon, Chris Hogan's gone,

564
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Cordil Paterson gone. It's gonna be a it's gonna be

565
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of new faces in that

566
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: passing game. And I do believe the Patriots, listen Brady

567
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: was he wasn't even a top ten quarterback last season.

568
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was a guy who people

569
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: were at that you know, in the second half of

570
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: the season, they had him on his bench, on their bench,

571
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: and they didn't think twice about it because he just

572
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: wasn't the same quarterback statistically. And I mean, this dude,

573
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: is what forty two going to be forty? I mean,

574
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he's spent this great for this long.

575
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably the greatest quarterback to ever play

576
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: the game. But um clearly the Super Bowl rings would

577
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: would probably attest to that. But from a fantasy standpoint,

578
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: you're starting to see, you we started to see it

579
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: last season. You know that he's just not the same

580
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: guy who's going to give you a big numbers a

581
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: weekend in a week out. Well, I kept saying that,

582
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, last year, yes, he made plays obviously when

583
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: when he had to, and and you know, credit him

584
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: for helping the Pageot win a super Bowl. It was

585
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: an offense that ran primarily Sony Michelle and James White.

586
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they were a very run heavy team last year,

587
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: and they turned to Brady when they needed to, but

588
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy that they were necessarily counting on

589
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: to control and win games for them offensively, least for

590
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: for fantasy. We need our quarterbacks if they're if they're

591
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: projected me on a run heavy team or a team

592
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: that runs just a very small amount of players, we

593
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: need that quarterback to be able to run. Brady has

594
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: never been has never been that guy. And look at disnumbers.

595
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, second half of the season, he

596
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: gave you twenty six, which was in Week seventeen and

597
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: didn't help you. He gave you twenty six and week

598
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: fourteen and that was hit. I mean, that was it.

599
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: He gave you a five against Buffalo, thirteen against Pittsburgh

600
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: fourteen against the Vikings, Like, we can't win fantasy leagues, right,

601
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: and with those kind of numbers, And that was with

602
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Cronk on the field. Now, granted Ground played far less

603
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: than under correct last season, but even with Gronk on

604
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: the field, I I don't think Brady even has remotely

605
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: close upside. Weren't a fantasy start everywhere. And they bring

606
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: in Damian Harris, who you know is another is another

607
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: part of that backfield that now has. I don't know

608
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: if Rex Burkhead is going to be drafted in a

609
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: lot of leagues. I'm sure he will be drafted in some,

610
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: but I mean you've got James White, You've got Sonny

611
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Michelle as you mentioned, and then Damien Harris could fit

612
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: in there as well. So yeah, so that's gonna be

613
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: an interesting to want to have to keep an eye on,

614
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: uh last one before we we'll get our guest Joe

615
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Pispia in here. Peyton Barber, according to Greg Alman of

616
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times. Almand believes Greg Peyton Barber will finish

617
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: with more yards than Ronald Jones. Now, I was waiting

618
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: for you to say, Greg Almand, like the Almond Brothers band,

619
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: look I know that. Yeah, obviously we've talked about how

620
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones last year was a huge bust um you know,

621
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: could barely it on the field one point nine yards

622
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: per caring could barely get on the field. And this

623
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: is one Graham I think, like, you know one, you know,

624
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: he was a second round pick, so we're hoping that

625
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: maybe because of that he kind of comes around this year.

626
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: And also I know that for Fantasy we like to

627
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: pick younger guys with with higher ceilings. Um. I mean

628
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: I've seen Ronald Joves come off the board shockingly early.

629
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Speaker 1: I mean like fifth sixth round in some what I've

630
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: seen it. It's just like in all usc like I

631
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: just like I've been shocked where I was like, I'm

632
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: like in double digit rounds thinking oh maybe I'll take

633
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: a shot at Ronald Jones and looking at seeing that

634
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: he has been long gone since. Oh my god, that's

635
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: that is nuts. Yeah. His for now, we're going into

636
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: two years here, Ronald Jones has been overpriced for in

637
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Speaker 1: fantasy for two years running, and he's uh, he has

638
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Speaker 1: what thirty touches his name um on the field, I

639
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: mean all of them in preseason. I just I want

640
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: no part I want no part. But if he does

641
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: fall into that like ninth tenth round, Rangels, so you

642
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Speaker 1: are in a sharper league where you know nobody's after

643
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: the sixth round. Um, I do think it's it's fine

644
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: to take a shot there because the ninth, the tenth

645
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: round is kind of a dead zone for running backs

646
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: and receivers alike. Um, he started, would you draft Rojoe

647
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: or Barber? Barber? But I mean, at the same time,

648
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: this is I've said before, and I hope, I hope

649
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: this comes just comes to light. But I just want

650
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: the Bucks to go super pass heavy in all of

651
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: these receivers go off. I do too, Man, you have

652
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: to worry about these I do too. I dude, I'm

653
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: all in on Chris Godwin, mean O J. Howard love him,

654
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: you know. I mean the hope had been the saving

655
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: the saving real quick, the saving grace for Ronald Jones

656
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: is like I we the Bucks need a pass catching

657
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: running back. But Ronald Jones was not a good pass

658
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: catcher in college. He wasn't. He was not a great

659
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: pass catcher. It was also something they didn't really ask

660
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: a lot of him. And maybe maybe it's because he

661
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: wasn't a great pass catcher. You know, you'd have to

662
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of ask some of the coaches about that, you know,

663
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before that because the Bucks

664
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: did nothing at the running back position this offseason, that

665
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: the thing was shocked. It was a shock, but but

666
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: that led to the belief that, Okay, maybe this means

667
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: that Ronald Jones is going to get some more opportunity now,

668
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll see what it's when it's all

669
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: said and done. Because the thing about it is, we

670
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: know what Peyton Barber is. I mean, he's fine in

671
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: some weeks, um, But I just think that people are

672
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: reaching and hoping for the upside of a younger player

673
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: maybe finally figuring it out in year two. That's all

674
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: I can think. Yeah, I mean that's that's definitely the allure,

675
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: and that's definitely the premise behind drafting Rojo. But man,

676
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: I've seen it to people would leap into the six

677
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: seventh round to take him. That's insane, that's crazy. I

678
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: mean like literally, there there have been multiple drafts where

679
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to like try to find him in the

680
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Speaker 1: double digit rounds and he's not there, and I'm like, what,

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Speaker 1: of the program, Joe Piezappia you and find him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Joe Pisapias seventeen. It's p I S A

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Speaker 1: p I A uh. He is the author of The

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Black Book, which is a great publication. Some of

712
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Speaker 1: the contributors include a friend of the program, Jake Seeley.

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Speaker 1: He's also the host of the Fantasy Black Book Pod,

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Speaker 1: which you can find over at fan Tracks. And I

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Speaker 1: know our pal Michael Florio does some stuff for fan

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Speaker 1: Tracks as well. But glad to have him on the

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Speaker 1: show for to the program had him on last summer. Joe,

718
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Speaker 1: how you doing. It's always good to chat with you.

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Speaker 1: I missed you, Marcus, wait too long. It has absolutely

720
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: been a while. Uh, you know, it's kind of catching

721
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: up with some of your stuff there on Twitter. Um.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I want to ask, because I've been

723
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: asking this of all our guests. Um, the Todd Gurley conundrum, right,

724
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who last year was

725
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: kind of a consensus number one overall, and I've been

726
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: saying he is he is Tom Petty right now he

727
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: is free falling. Um, where do you sit on Todd

728
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: Gurley as we talk here on July one. Well, it's

729
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: at the risk of making another Tom Petty bad dad joke.

730
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to live like a refugee

731
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: where it comes to God, Gurley is really tough. But

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00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: here's the way I'm approaching you right now, because obviously,

733
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Speaker 1: if he's still getting the goal like touches, that's huge

734
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Speaker 1: first fantasy value. If you're in a situation with Todd Gurley,

735
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: I would say, where you're in a ten team league,

736
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of those casual ten teams friends

737
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: and family leagues that people are still really passionate about

738
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: and really serious. I think you can take that risk

739
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: because it's much easier, especially in a full point PPR,

740
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: to recover if Todd Gurley becomes a disaster, if everything

741
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: the wheels come down and everything goes to grab, at

742
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: least you're in a situation where their placement value is

743
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: a little easier. When you start to get in the

744
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: twelve and fourteen team leagues, then it becomes something you

745
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: really have to consider. Obviously, the later he falls, the

746
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: more appealing it is, because it's easier to mitigate the

747
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: risk of Todd Gurley. But I was just in the

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Speaker 1: FSG A draft and I was in a four teen

749
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Speaker 1: team league. I had the twelve pick overall. I passed

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Speaker 1: on him, and I thought he would make it to

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00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: me right around the corner on the wheel, and he

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00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: actually didn't. He went at fourteen at to one, So

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00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: I probably were taking the chance there. But in a

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00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: fourteen team league, if Todd Gurley goes awry, that's really

755
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: tough to come back to you. So I think it's

756
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: all about mitigating risk. I'm not out on top Gurley

757
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: this year, but I'm going to be very specific on

758
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: where I take that risk. And again, how much prize

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00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: money you're playing for, all these little tiny factors that

760
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: all enter into the equation. I think you have to

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00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: weigh that. I don't think there's one answer like, Nope,

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Speaker 1: avoid Todd Gurley, because I don't think that's a good

763
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: answer either. What what's prize money over here too? Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know, all the Harry Potter, jelly beans, everything you

765
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Speaker 1: can possibly imagine. Uh you know you mentioned your your

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Speaker 1: mock draft with the at F s g A, and

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00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: I was looking at that. Um you went David Montgomery

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Speaker 1: and then followed up with Tarik Cohen. Right, explain yourself

769
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: back to back picks, man, explain yourself there. I feel

770
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Speaker 1: like I just got calls to the principle is going

771
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: to be fun. I like this. Uh no, well here's

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00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: here's me explain myself with that. I'm looking for upside.

773
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking for playmakers in the four teen team league.

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: And again that one's actually one we play out that

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Speaker 1: F s g A draft and the running backs. Nine

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00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: of the first eleven picks were running backs. It just

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00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: flew off the board. And what I do in the

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00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Fantasy Black Book is relative position value, and the concept is,

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, most people are gonna have an r V one,

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: but once you're behind the fantasy league average in our

781
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: inn r V one, you're chasing something in the negative.

782
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: And fantasy sports is very simple. It's about me outperforming

783
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: you from as many sponsor my roster as I can.

784
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: So that's why I doubled up wide receivers and then

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Speaker 1: went with the two rookie running backs Jacobs in Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: I'm very confident that both those guys are gonna be

787
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Speaker 1: integral pieces of their offenses. I have nothing but faith

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Speaker 1: and Mattneggie as a head coach and as an offensive mind,

789
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: and I think just like the Patriots last year with

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00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: Tony Michelle Uh and James White, they could do the

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00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: same thing. Tarikon, I think cantinly have that upside. I

792
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Speaker 1: don't think less touches for Tarikon necessarily mean you're going

793
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: to kill his fantasy value of anything. Having Montgomery, theyre

794
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: and effective, might even be even better for him, not

795
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Speaker 1: to mention the fact that if you have size them

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Speaker 1: down a little bit and maybe you get a better

797
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Speaker 1: use out of him towards the latter part of the season.

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Speaker 1: So is my flexible RB. I feel pretty good about it,

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Speaker 1: and if things should go wrong for Montgomery, then maybe

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Speaker 1: three Coon does get more looks in that offense and

801
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll figure it out. But looking at it, I

802
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Speaker 1: just don't see the Bears taking Montgomery. All the rumors

803
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: and all the out of camp news so far have

804
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: been very positive on him. I think he's going to

805
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Speaker 1: be the real deal. And you know, running back to

806
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Speaker 1: the young position boys. You know about you, but I'm

807
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: getting old. Hey, Joe's fabs here. So um. You know,

808
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: we've been just you know, talking away for months and

809
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: months and months because it's the off season, and uh,

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00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, this is what we do. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of what we've been discussing is players whose value in

812
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: the industry is rising, uh, players whose value in the

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Speaker 1: industry is falling. So like Todd Gurley is a guy

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00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: who's falling, Uh to me, James Washington's name, who's rising?

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Speaker 1: What players out there do you feel we're too high on?

816
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: And what players out there do you feel like we're

817
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: not pumping up enough? Uh? Well, you know, I'm every

818
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Speaker 1: format specific. So the fact that Aaron Rodgers everybody seems

819
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Speaker 1: to be re elevating him to this, you know, almost

820
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: godlike status again, I think is everybody should pump the

821
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: brakes a little bit with that. Last year was you know,

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 1: a simple quarterback league. There's still plenty of qbs out there,

823
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Speaker 1: So I don't love how all of a suddenly Iaron

824
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers gonna be QB one overall again. Narratives seems to

825
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: be pumping through the Twitter universe. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of that because you look at a guy like

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, who had back to back two out the

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Speaker 1: last three years was almost five thousand yards. So I

829
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Speaker 1: think that there's plenty of ways in a single quarterback

830
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Speaker 1: league to deal with that. Um I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I love the Mike Williams train right now. I'm on

832
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: that one. So if the hype goes a little bit,

833
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: fire on that, I'm okay with it. Same with Calvin Ridley.

834
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Speaker 1: To me, those guys are going in a nice value.

835
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: But in terms of guys that are kind of rising

836
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Speaker 1: up right now, I think that you're looking at that

837
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Speaker 1: grouping of the Aaron Jones type running back. You're looking

838
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: at some of those guys where people are trying to say,

839
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Speaker 1: if you miss out on that first one, to carry on.

840
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Speaker 1: Johnson is another one too, But carry on for me

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Speaker 1: a little bit still, were is me now? I mean

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Speaker 1: as a Patriots fan, I can tell you know, I

843
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: think that Patricia is really gonna try to be physical again.

844
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Speaker 1: I think he wanted to last year with Wadic Blunt.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have enough left in the tank

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Speaker 1: J Anderson. I'm a fan. C J is going to

848
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: destroy Carryon's value, but there's notion that all of a

849
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: sudden carry On is gonna run away with everything, especially

850
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: an offensive I think is still a work in progress

851
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: that's still not a hundred percent healthy and still has

852
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: a new coordinator coming in. I think there's a lot

853
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: to get right there. So for me, carry On is

854
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: one of these guys. It's rising a little high right now,

855
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: a little too high for me. CJ is a friend

856
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: of mine, UM, and they like him and what he's

857
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: going to bring to that backfield. So as much as

858
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: I do like kJ, I think people need to realize

859
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: that there is a ceiling there. Yeah, I'm with all

860
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: you guys on carry On Johnson. I mean the Lions

861
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: have been one of the slowest paced and frankly, I

862
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: mean they just have some of the lowest play volume

863
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: year over year, and I don't think we can really

864
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: expect that it changed too much with Darryl Bevil coming in.

865
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: So I have I'm pretty much fully fading carry On Johnson.

866
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: This is that right, Yeah, I've got him like an

867
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: RB two flex area. UM, not too high. I've seen

868
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: him ranked in the top fourteen back. He just goes well,

869
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: he goes in that range in the third and fourth round,

870
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: like around a G Green Julian Edelman. At that point,

871
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: I won't get our Cooper I want, I want all

872
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: those receivers. I won't take him there. Yeah. See, I'm

873
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of the same mind with you guys. I just

874
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot more value there and a

875
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: lot less risk. And I think Bubble is gonna do

876
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: a good job there. And I think that if they

877
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: can figure out a way to quickly get Hawkins enough

878
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: to speed and utilize him, I think he could possibly

879
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: break that trend of the rookie tight end not contributing.

880
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: I think he has that opportunity this year. I know

881
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: we you know, we kind of get suck in our

882
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: ways until something happens, right, you say, well, this can

883
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: never happen until you have rookie quarterbacks can never happen.

884
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: And then you have the year where Wilson and Luck

885
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: and all those guys contribute, and it changes our concept

886
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: and now you see it as a regular thing, and

887
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: it's always been well, rookie tight ends can't make it anything. Happen,

888
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: and well maybe Fatt and Hawkins and those guys can

889
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: be those guys to make that work. Speaking of rookies,

890
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the Patriots, I was a guy who

891
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: in the draft was really big on to kill Harry,

892
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: and you know wasn't true where he'd land. Obviously, he

893
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: goes to New England now and I find myself right

894
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: now sort of torn on him. I love his ability,

895
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: I love what he can do. I worry that you,

896
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: even though father Time has yet to catch up to

897
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, it's going to happen. Um, your thoughts on

898
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: on what he means in this Patriots offense and what

899
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: his potential can be. First of all, how dare you

900
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: say father Time? How dare you look? Frank Gore is

901
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: the only one that's gonna outlive us? All right, that's

902
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: it's just Frank Gore. Oh yeah, that's that's true. I

903
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: mean it's almost like they have a bet with the devil.

904
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Those to you, like, I don't know how a lot

905
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: about what the pack is or what's going on, but um, look,

906
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I think the world of nikkil Harry, and I think

907
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: that he is I do agree with the notion he

908
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: was the most complete wide receiver, and I love that

909
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: right away he seems to be embraced. You know him

910
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: in the edilment or out there Brady's house and and

911
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: get to know each other and getting familiar with things,

912
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of a difference maker. I mean,

913
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: you're seeing him go in that same range as guys

914
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: like the Shaan Jackson, who, honestly, I would take the

915
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: shot on Harry more personally. Uh, if it's best ball,

916
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: maybe DeShawn Jackson, maybe the cumulative, But I think on

917
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: a weekly basis, Harry has an opportunity here to really

918
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: be a better floor player, whereas the Shan might be

919
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: the better ceiling player. But week to week, I don't

920
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: trust the Eagles offense at all. Very difficult. Then you

921
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: get guys like the Shawn Hamilton's in that same range,

922
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: so even somebody like funches to me. If if the

923
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: Patriots reached for an offensive player, which is something they

924
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: rarely do but they have done in the last two years,

925
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: They've shown you they reached for him because they have

926
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: a plan for them and they're going to utilize them.

927
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: So for me, I think if you believed in what

928
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: they did yet last year with Sony Michelle and how

929
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: that went, which was pretty darn well considering where they

930
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: ended up. I think Harry will be a good part

931
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: of that offense, and I think where he's going right

932
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: now is completely appropriate. That being said, I think you

933
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: and I will agree, all three of us that when

934
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: you get to the preseason and he has one big game,

935
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: that a DP is probably from the one four teen range,

936
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: probably to the under one. Yeah, you're You're probably right, Joe.

937
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: I have been a fan of the Fantasy Black Book.

938
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: I know you the latest edition for is out, but

939
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: for those who are not in the know, explain what

940
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: it is and where they can find it. Well, you

941
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: can find it over on Amazon for paperback and kindle,

942
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: and get on iTunes as well. It's a fourteen time

943
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: best seller on Amazon and Fantasy Sports between baseball and

944
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: football in the last nine years, and last year was

945
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: actually the number one football book on Amazon the last August,

946
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: ahead of my my guy Tom Brady. I felt like

947
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: a real conflict of interest last last August to be

948
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: ahead of Tom Brady and anything, but I I dealt

949
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: with it. I was able to get past it. I

950
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: cried myself to sleep with a little bowl of avocado

951
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: ice cream and honor of him. It's out there on

952
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Amazon again. I think we're number three in football books

953
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: behind Joe Namath and Tony Dungey's book right now. And

954
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: it gives something to people very different and unique. And

955
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the hardest thing in fantasy now is

956
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: to how do you separate from the pack, And the

957
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: concept of relative position value does that. It's a really easy, applicable,

958
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: understandable concept that allows you to not just manage your draft,

959
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: but manager and higher season. And I've got a great

960
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: group of people working with me on it, and I'm

961
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: very proud of it. And you know, okay, just goes

962
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: to show you can really build a brand and if

963
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: you have something unique, people will latch onto it and

964
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: make it a success. And I'm very grateful for that.

965
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: That's Awesomely, I go pick it up if you haven't already,

966
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: go check it out. You become a smarter fantasy player

967
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: before I let you go. Joe, I know you also

968
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: do some Major League Baseball fantasy. And so one happy

969
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Bobby Buddy a day, we should all we should all

970
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: sit around, well, you know what, but so you've got

971
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: so many titles of the Patriots and kind of offsets

972
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: the message. You know what, That's exactly what happens, because

973
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, every every September, I remember what it is

974
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: to feel good about myself. It goes to the holidays.

975
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm a nice holiday season, and spring training goes you know, optimistic,

976
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: and then it all goes in the tank. Well I

977
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: should I should ask where we let you go for

978
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: those playing fantasy baseball, because I know there's there's some

979
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: crossover with folks who listen to this podcast. Um, who

980
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: is a name folks should be paying attention to for

981
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: after the All Star break? Well, look, Kira just got

982
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: called back up from Milwaukee, So I think he's gonna

983
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: have a good second half. That's gonna be a nice player.

984
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: I think you might even see a player like a

985
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Dustin May I think get an opportunity with the Dodgers

986
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: there in the second half. He's had a brilliant uh

987
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: run there in double A, just got moved up to

988
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: triple A. So depending on what they do with the

989
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: pictures starting picture wise, if they don't acquire anybody, but really,

990
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be looking for now is that movement.

991
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: I think guys like Granky and bum Gunner get moved.

992
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: That could mean a guy like Kyle Tucker gets freed

993
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: up to And that's a guy right now. Since your

994
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: an Alvaraz over in Houston has played so well to start,

995
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: he becomes expendable to add that big time picture. So

996
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: look for Kyle Tucker also to probably be uh in

997
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: a major league uniform and the second half of the

998
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: season then make a contribution in the outfield as well.

999
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: I know it's not a fantasy question, but Ken Dustin

1000
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: may help build this bridge from the starters to Kenley Jansen.

1001
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: That's all as a Dodger fans all I want to know,

1002
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: that's what you need. I mean, that's what you're hoping for.

1003
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible. It all depends on the usage.

1004
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: The problem with them is, I think has been brilliant.

1005
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: Kershaw has been solid this year. I think when you're

1006
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: looking at that Dodger team, it's always where you gonna

1007
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: get out of the back end guys. And you know

1008
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: rich Hill is a five and two thirds guy for

1009
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: the last few years. I think you know that one

1010
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: more difference maker guy. He could have a run. And

1011
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: if you pair him with Walker, Bueller and Kersh off

1012
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: the top. If they really have a nice run there

1013
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: to finish, If he's got enough getings left in the tank,

1014
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be right in it. Man, Dodgers

1015
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: have been so good this year. Yeah, yeah, trust me,

1016
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm still last year. The Red Sox are just a

1017
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: better team. The one at the ashtow is still smart.

1018
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see what happen. Well hopefully we'll

1019
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: be seeing you in the world. Think back, Joe, who

1020
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: I want to know who the heck the Yankees are

1021
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: getting because our starting rotations got some question marks. But

1022
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if we five homers a game, maybe it

1023
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: won't matter. I'll say, well, that's part of it. But

1024
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: I think what they were banking on with Severino being

1025
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: that guy, Debriel was going to be the guy who

1026
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: basically came back at the All Star break, which would

1027
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: have allowed them to keep the prospects like Glynn Fraser

1028
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: and out of them to stay in there. But I

1029
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: think what happens is now with that setback for him,

1030
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: now you're going to see them. I think they're going

1031
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: to have to figure out a way to make a move.

1032
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if they even went to the

1033
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: mess and try to peel away guy like Zack Wheeler.

1034
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get a synderguard from him.

1035
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: That would be a pr nightmare for the mess. But

1036
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: a guy like Zack Wheeler, I wouldn't be shocked if

1037
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: they could peel him away. Here you go, hey, Joe,

1038
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: appreciate it, man, enjoy the summer. We'll catch up soon.

1039
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, guys any time. Thanks a lot. Thanks

1040
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 1: again to Joe piece of for stopping by the program again.

1041
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: Be sure to check out the Fantasy Black Book, he said.

1042
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: You can get it on Amazon or just to check

1043
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: him out on Twitter as well. You can get some

1044
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: links to it there. Uh. Last week we introduced the

1045
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: fantasy draft of things. We did a draft of movie

1046
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: franchises and uh, Eddie, I got the feeling just looking

1047
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: last week. I think FABS kind of won the the

1048
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: polling for the I think FABS won the polling last

1049
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: any other guest is between the rest of the crew.

1050
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you got you were getting short change.

1051
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Like I liked your draft and I don't. I don't

1052
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: think the people appreciated your draft as much. Yeah, then

1053
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: I think I might have might have been an older

1054
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: crowd like Potter doesn't really are you saying that at all? No,

1055
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: I think because that, like Harry Potter, is for people

1056
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: who my age are younger, and then you know they

1057
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: no snake hurt me in the fourth slot there. But anyway,

1058
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: Fabs was the winner at thirty seven percent, but he

1059
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: had someone very very close Graham thirty three percent or

1060
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: right behind Star Wars probably Marcus respectable two percent, and

1061
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: I was I was pretty poor, the only an eight percent.

1062
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was number one in our hearts. Thank you.

1063
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: I feel like you got you got job there. But

1064
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: I know I heard from a lot of folks on

1065
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: Twitter who were upset at some of the things that

1066
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: we left out. Yeah, Like I said, Godfather, and I'm like, yeah,

1067
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: of course I pick up. It was like a two movie.

1068
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: Someone was upset that we didn't pick Mad Max and

1069
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah I saw that too, like thirty years

1070
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: between movies. Yeah, yeah, um you know. But so we

1071
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 1: appreciate all you guys chiming in all sort of things.

1072
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: So though, I thought, with Fourth of July coming up

1073
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: this week and a happy Fourth of July to all

1074
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: of you out there, um yeah, a lot of folks

1075
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: will be whatever you call grilling, barbecuing, having a cookout.

1076
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: I know, depending on where you live in the country,

1077
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: it is called different things. So I figured, okay, what

1078
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: are the best things to eat at a cookout? Right?

1079
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: And so we will do a three round draft. Um,

1080
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: just because we didn't do a snake last week, we'll

1081
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 1: we'll stay no snake this week as well. And because

1082
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: uh Eddie, you went last, we will give you the

1083
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: first pick. And uh, just a a a quick note

1084
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: for all of you out there. I figured all meats,

1085
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: whether they're todd dogs, burgers, ribs, what have you, those

1086
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: are all separate items, right, just say, like, hey, grilling

1087
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: meat and then like just get everything in there. So

1088
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: they're all separate things. So you know they that will

1089
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: open things up a little bit more. So, uh Eddie,

1090
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: I give the floor to you, okay, and just to

1091
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: if I two. So it's like you can't say I

1092
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: want a beef burger and then I'll get a bison burger.

1093
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Like a burger is a burger. It's one category. Burger

1094
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: is one category. Okay, uh first pick here. I see

1095
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to give away. I feel like I

1096
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: want to lose this one if I don't taken out.

1097
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: My favorite item across the board may not be popular

1098
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: pick for the number one overall, but I think it

1099
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: is the best item you could possibly get into barbecue fashion.

1100
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: So I want to go with beef brisket slow slow

1101
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: cook first. Overall. That is ah, that's a pretty good

1102
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: call there actually, Um all right, Uh so well, I'm

1103
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: kind of torn on where I go with this one,

1104
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna go with ribs. I think I

1105
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: think they're they're They're a classic cook out staple. I think,

1106
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: especially when done well and they're smoked. It's just kind

1107
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: of like spoke them overnight. Um, smoked ribs overnight. You know,

1108
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I shout out to, Uh, I would have been my

1109
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: one oh one to our our our pal and colleague,

1110
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, who I've been fortunate enough to be invited

1111
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: some of his cookouts. And I will say that, uh,

1112
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: for as as smart as he is when it comes

1113
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: to football, he may be as knowledgeable or more knowledgeable

1114
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: about smoking dead animals. The man is serious about his

1115
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: grilled meats. He's no jokes. So, you know, shout out

1116
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: to Chris Westling and his and his grilling skills. But

1117
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm going ribs at one dot o two. Uh fats

1118
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: you guys left burgers for me at three. That's like

1119
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: lea at three. Yeah, man, dude, listen all American man,

1120
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna cook out. You're gonna have those burgers. I

1121
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: don't care what they are. Beef, bison, turkey, just not

1122
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 1: any of those veggie whatever that stuff. That's not a burger.

1123
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: It's not a burger. It's impossible. Yeah, it's not. I

1124
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: want beef. Okay, turkey is acceptable, Bison isn't acceptable. But

1125
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: a little little little cheese on their little bacon. Oh

1126
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: gidea up man, I'm in. I'm in. You mean that burger?

1127
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take hot dogs and broths here at four? Um,

1128
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: but I have a question. Okay do you put match up? Okay?

1129
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: So that so Matthew, who my shan, who is actually

1130
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: in the studio with us, loves ketchup on hot dogs

1131
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: and I can't stand every time I have to put ketchup.

1132
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: Here's the difference. He's a kid, No shame, he's a kid.

1133
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: He's allowed will go. I will go to Dodgers grown adults.

1134
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: I get. I get my Dodger dogs with ketchup mustard.

1135
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: And onions. Yep, straight up, no shame, do not care,

1136
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: don't care. I can't. I can't do it, man like

1137
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm all about mustard. Relish sauerkraud ketchup is

1138
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 1: for dogs, for burgers, mustard is for hot dogs. I'm fine,

1139
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: I just I can't. I am shameless about it. Don't care.

1140
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm weirdo who does not like catch your war mustard?

1141
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: So I really, so what do you put? Can be

1142
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: plain or it could be chili dog if you have

1143
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: like a cheese I mean, like like Mark's bringing, like

1144
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: Dodger dogs, like they have some crazy toppings. Uh, if

1145
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: you could like the specialty, like really really big ones,

1146
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: so they have a lot of good toppings there. I mean,

1147
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: but playing hot dogs, it's fine. What so what do

1148
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: you pick? Hot dogs? Graham? And that what falls under

1149
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: that umbrella? Is that just hot dogs and then other

1150
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of in case meets are still fair game? Um,

1151
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think I think we can

1152
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: split out hot dogs and and other other case to meats.

1153
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: We can separate those. Okay, that's the case, then I'll

1154
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: go with I'll just go with sausage. I mean, I'm

1155
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: in the die and I was thinking, like sausage just

1156
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: by the way. I was at Petco Park over the weekend.

1157
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that stadium so much. I was

1158
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: gonna ask if you had a fish taco then remember

1159
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: you don't like my girlfriend did. And we waited in

1160
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: line it felt like longer than we watched the game

1161
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: to get in, and she said it was phenomenal. They

1162
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: have you gone there yet? The food is phenomenal. They

1163
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: have a hot dog like this big, The thing is gigantic.

1164
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: Matthews like, oh, I want one of those, and I'm like,

1165
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: that's my boy, and then he put catch up on

1166
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: the damn thing. Padre Baseball hasn't been great years. They

1167
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: got to oh my gosh, it's so good. So I'm

1168
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: sorry off topic, but it's so good, so good. Oh man, Okay,

1169
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: So now sausages off the board, which means, uh, we've

1170
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: gone through We've gone through a lot of the meats here. Um,

1171
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna keep this rolling though. Uh A good.

1172
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: One of the things that I miss about my time

1173
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: living in the Central Valley of California. The folks up

1174
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: there are great with grilling. Try tip and it was

1175
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: a thing that when I left when I when I've

1176
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: come other places, like for a while, I don't know

1177
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: the people outside of California knew what tried tip was

1178
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: because it's sort of a weird cut of the cow. Um.

1179
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: But man, when I lived in Fresno, not only did

1180
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: did they cook it regularly, they cooked it well. Um.

1181
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a place I used to go

1182
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: to that would make a great try tip breakfast burrito. Um.

1183
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's that's gonna be my second round

1184
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: pick try tip it. Okay, So I will tell you

1185
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: this back to Petco Park, Cardiff Crack. Okay, it is

1186
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: the best try tip I have ever had. You have

1187
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: to g I'm Marcus, I'm Tanya. Check it out. Cardiff

1188
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: Crack artist like c R A c K. Yes, it

1189
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: is unbelievably good. And they actually do sell it at Petco. Interesting,

1190
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: I never knew Peto. Is this so good? Like it's

1191
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: like it's the gourmet paradigse. I mean the baseball is

1192
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: actually not bad on the field this season, but in

1193
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: season's past. And gotta eat, all right, so you're up,

1194
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm going barbecue chicken chicken, dude. I mean, I'm a

1195
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: big I'm a big thing. I like the Classics, I

1196
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: like the Yankees, like the Cowboys. Okay, people can get

1197
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: on my case for all that stuff. And I'm going

1198
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: to hamburgers, cheeseburgers and all that, and I'm going barbecue chicken.

1199
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Love it. I'm going to take us off the meats here.

1200
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: One of the things that immediately pops into my mind

1201
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: is like a refreshing summer barbecue snack is a watermelon. Yeah.

1202
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: So I was hoping that would fall to me in

1203
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: round three. Apparently not. Alright, alright, so here we go.

1204
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: Around three, we're back to you, Eddie. Um, I want

1205
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: to go off meat as well, because I figured my plate.

1206
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: You have the heavy brisk and you have the sausage.

1207
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: You got your mix of beef and pork, and you

1208
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: probably want something on a side dish. I'm not sure

1209
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: if this is a regional thing for me. Growing up

1210
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: in the New York City are a lot of Italian people,

1211
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: and this is very, very popular where I am when

1212
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: you're barbecuing, and I think across the country, the potato

1213
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: cell is probably more popular. But I'm gonna go with

1214
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: the macaroni salad instead. That's what I was going with

1215
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: in the third round. Well that made me. Uh, I

1216
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: was nervous for a second because I thought you were

1217
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna take my pick, which is going to be potato

1218
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: sal third round. All right, you just got I think

1219
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm just the mayonnaise and and and just I like

1220
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: the a little bit more than potato cell so a

1221
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: little switched there. But yeah, I don't I don't know

1222
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: how popular is really like here. I don't know if

1223
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: I could really find I mean, I see it. I

1224
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: I've seen it at the cook but I tend to

1225
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: lean more towards the potato salad than the macaroni sal Yeah. No,

1226
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm a macaroni salade guy, but I'm you know, I'm

1227
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: an Italian, so that's we like. We like our macaroni.

1228
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: All right, So now that you have been sniped, I

1229
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: know where are you going? Can I go back to meat?

1230
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: How about pulled pork? That's that's a good one. That

1231
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: about pulled pork. That's a good call. That's pretty good, right,

1232
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: that's a good call. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm not even

1233
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: a huge fan of pork either, like pork chops, but

1234
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: you give me some pulled pork. I'm all in, all in,

1235
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: all right, Graham finish this out. I'm gonna hold it down.

1236
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think none of us, you guys are.

1237
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: I know you guys are from the South, So I'm

1238
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: gonna hold it down with for the South. Here, I say,

1239
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: hole slaw, you gotta good call. You gotta have some

1240
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: hole saw. That's a good call. Um. And to spice

1241
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: it up, I mean, you gotta have some some vinegar

1242
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: in there. Vinegary cole Slaw a little bit. I'm definitely

1243
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: more of a Vinegary. Okay, you have a well balanced plate. Yeah,

1244
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna run a poll there, of course you're I

1245
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: think I think you're gonna win again. You got really

1246
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: good value at the third pick the Burger's barb. We

1247
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: get chicken, pull pork, pulled pork and pork in the

1248
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,479
Speaker 1: third round. A strong that's a strong pick man, Yeah man,

1249
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't figured. That was a fun thing

1250
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: that And it's always out there. If there are some

1251
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: things we left out, some things that you guys love

1252
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: at your cookouts, feel free to hit us before we go. Guys. Um,

1253
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed, but we have some competition, Okay,

1254
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: we have some competition in the fantasy football analytical world.

1255
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Uh is that his name? Simpson is now giving fantasy

1256
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: football advice on Twitter? Did you see that? I've noticed this,

1257
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like, I don't want to put this

1258
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: out on social media. Marcus and I talked about this

1259
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: earlier because the replace that would be really bad. But

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like O J. Simpson plays fantasy football? What

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Speaker 1: would be some great O J. Simpson fantasy football team names?

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Speaker 1: I came up with a few so that the the

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Speaker 1: the easy one is the killers, right, That's that's the

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Speaker 1: easy one. Slash and dash? How about that one? Is

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Speaker 1: that a good O J. Simpson fantasy squeeze? Now all right?

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Speaker 1: Nor Bergs knives right right? Okay? And the last one

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Speaker 1: stop O J. It hurts as in hurts come on, No,

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Speaker 1: like the commercial back of the day, Come on, stop

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Speaker 1: O J. It hurts. Come on that dude. That's perfect

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Speaker 1: forgot about that's hurts commercials Eddie, you're you're those are

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Speaker 1: right to the point. Well done on that note, Well

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Speaker 1: done that, But I mean, like unbelievable. We're a dude

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Speaker 1: who murdered two people is now out playing golf given

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Speaker 1: fantasy football advice. I think that's just like the Costanza

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Speaker 1: scenario where it's like you tweeted him and ask him

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Speaker 1: whatever he says, just to do the opposite. Oh my gosh, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So Howard Stern talked about that they have the Howard

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Speaker 1: Stern League, and they called Michael Rappaport who's also in

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Speaker 1: the league, and if you know Michael rapp Report, he's

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Speaker 1: a little bit out there, and they joked about O J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson joining their fantasy football league. And if you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen that on or listen to that on Stern, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty funny. His reply to that, But it was hilarious

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Speaker 1: because like O J is a running back obviously, and

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Speaker 1: his basic he's like one, he's like Patrick Mahomes would

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Speaker 1: be my first round pick. And that right there was

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Speaker 1: the last piece of advice, the first and last, the

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Speaker 1: first and last that I will take from O J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson when it comes to fantasy football. I just I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of surprised that a running back would say

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Speaker 1: go quarterback number one. Overall. I figured he would have

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Speaker 1: stuck with the running backs uneducated, my friend, uneducated, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just done that. But so, do do you think

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Speaker 1: he'll get a podcast? Sure, I'm sure somebody will like,

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Speaker 1: would you? Someone will come on someone because people will

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Speaker 1: listen to it for the curiosity factor, the fact that

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Speaker 1: he got on Twitter and got a huge following immediately.

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Speaker 1: Someone who will We'll take a chance. It'll be a

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Speaker 1: small It'll be a small it'll be a small outlet,

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Speaker 1: looking for some some attention, looking for some pubs, some

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Speaker 1: kind of way. If he if he did get his

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Speaker 1: own podcast, I'm sure the most popular segment would be

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Speaker 1: Weekly Fantasy Cuts. Now come on round. On that note,

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Speaker 1: a reminder that we will be off next week. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with you in a couple of weeks Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Just ahead that we are, We're telling the schedule, have

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Speaker 1: a special guest. I'll leave it at that until we

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Speaker 1: have some more confirmation it's it is not. I can

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that at that because if that

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Speaker 1: was happening, I'm out. I got that. I'm not coming in.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you for sure that that is not

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Speaker 1: the case. But the potentially a special guest coming up

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Speaker 1: when we return in a couple of weeks. So enjoy

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Speaker 1: the holiday. That's it. We're done. It's always we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you listening. Tell to friends, to tell to friends, rate review,

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Speaker 1: and remember, you might think you're indecisive, but are you

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Speaker 1: really sure? We'll see you in two weeks wo