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Speaker 1: What did James Biden say behind closed doors?

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cameron comes on, talks to us about culture war stuff,

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Speaker 1: AI talk and as stepman on the student loan debt

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Speaker 1: relief and so much more coming up on them. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to a GOP congressman in a moment,

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Speaker 1: and let me explain why we're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: this particular GOP congressman. James Biden, Joe Biden's brother, had

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Speaker 1: a closed door meeting with the House of Representatives yesterday

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Speaker 1: where he had to answer questions, what kind of questions,

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Speaker 1: well probing questions about just how compromised the President of

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Speaker 1: the United States of America is.

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Speaker 2: By our enemy China.

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Speaker 1: Realize that there's endless evidence that the President of the

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Speaker 1: some way by the Communist Chinese Party.

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Speaker 2: Now knowing that, understand this.

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Speaker 1: In this closed door meeting yesterday.

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Speaker 2: From my sources, it was virtually empty.

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Speaker 1: Congress is on vacation, and the GOP who loves to

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Speaker 1: tell us every single day how much they're out there

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Speaker 1: and they're fighting for us or we're fighting for you.

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Speaker 1: So many twenty five dollars and I'll stop Joe Biden's agenda. Nobody,

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Speaker 1: I should say, hardly anybody could even be bothered to

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't you like?

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Speaker 1: I know, I would like a party that cares as

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Speaker 2: You do as I do. I long for that. How

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Speaker 2: do you not even show up? The President of.

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Speaker 1: The United States of America allowed a Chinese spy balloon

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Speaker 1: before shooting it down. Doesn't that tell you something? If

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: The media is keep the media keeps trying to tell

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Speaker 1: you that there's no evidence Joe Biden's compromised and corrupt.

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Speaker 2: They tell you all the time.

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Speaker 1: There's no evidence tying Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's businesses

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Speaker 1: or any improper activities. When you hear that, what do

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Speaker 1: no evidence tying Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: I am curious about that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so curious that we brought in one of

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Congressman William Timmans of the Great State

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina, Congressman, one credit to you for being

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Speaker 1: one of the few who showed up. I understand it's

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Speaker 2: Not, but you were there. We were not. What did

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Speaker 2: you learn behind closed doors?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we've all known that Jim Biden has

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Speaker 3: always just been a hanger on.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't.

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Speaker 3: The brain's behind the operation was Hunter, and you know

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Speaker 3: I that was confirmed yesterday. He said repeatedly in regards

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Speaker 3: Communist Party linked company CEFC, that he trusted Hunter, he

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Speaker 3: this is the thing. CFC is state owned, state adjacent,

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Speaker 3: state controlled. All Chinese companies are. That's just their system.

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Speaker 3: And so it's ridiculous that they're trying to hide behind

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Speaker 1: What is the company? What was this deal with the

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Speaker 5: So this is the thing.

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Speaker 3: The Chinese government uses their economy to extend their influence

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Speaker 2: That's what they do all.

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Speaker 3: Over the planet in developing countries, they literally straight up

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Speaker 3: And honestly, Jim Biden admitted to all that he just

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Speaker 3: And I gotta be honest, that's just nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nonsense.

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Speaker 1: What do we Obviously, Jim Biden, no one knows who

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Speaker 2: He was the only one with influence.

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Speaker 3: So one of things important to realize that Jim Biden

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Speaker 3: foreign governments, whether it's China, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Russia. So this

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Speaker 3: Clearly his brother and his son were leveraging the Biden brand.

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Speaker 3: But again, we also know that Hunter Biden has paid

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Speaker 3: bottom of this. The American people deserve answers, and let

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Speaker 3: me finish with this. I I'm I'm a lawyer. I

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Speaker 3: remember Congress, I remember the Oversight Committee. I was a

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Speaker 3: So what the oversc Committee right now is doing is

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Speaker 3: restoring the trust of the American people. We are actually

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Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right about that. We are lost

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Speaker 2: Now, at the end of this.

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Speaker 1: Long road, you're traveling down, and I'm glad you're traveling

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look.

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Speaker 1: Like the numbers are going to be there for impeachment.

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Speaker 1: So where does that leave us at the.

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Speaker 3: I have not given up hope on possibly voting on

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Speaker 3: impeachment again. The deposition next Wednesday is going to be critical.

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Speaker 3: What Hunter Biden says will determine whether the president is impeached.

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Speaker 3: hardworking people at DJ, but it has been politicized. It

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Speaker 3: while also persecuting Donald Trump and his family. It's just

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Speaker 3: President Trump says it right. We're in a Banana Republic

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Speaker 3: And again, I'm just following the evidence and we'll see

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Speaker 1: Congressman Fan, I'm officially a fan. Very impressive. Come back soon, please.

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Speaker 1: That was freaking awesome.

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Speaker 2: The President. I still laugh about it.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not funny, but I still laugh about

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Speaker 1: the fact that President is not mentally competent enough to

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Speaker 2: But he's a president. Okay.

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Speaker 1: He's also taking your money and he's handing it out

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Speaker 2: So do you think maybe it would be a good idea.

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Speaker 1: To start making some preparations for a rocky financial future?

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Speaker 1: Do you hear the news about commercial real estate today?

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Speaker 1: You know all these big banks, these big corporations have

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Speaker 6: Early in my term, I announced the major plan to

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Speaker 1: You know what kind of a great mood I'm in today,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually not even going to focus on the President

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Speaker 1: of the high Noon podcast. Okay, and as by my tally,

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Speaker 1: that's well north of one hundred billion dollars in student

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Speaker 2: Could you please.

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Speaker 7: Explain this, sure, Jesse, you can explain it to you.

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Speaker 7: It's literally coming out of your pocket. Got to freak

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Speaker 7: you a little bit there. No, this is something we're

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Speaker 2: Well, and as I.

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Speaker 1: Think you and I both understand that the Republicans are

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Speaker 7: I think it's real simple. I think this is a

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Speaker 7: this entire system is propped up by the taxpayers, and.

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Speaker 2: It's a scam.

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Speaker 7: It's a scam that's culturally costing us enormously, right both,

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Speaker 7: There's absolutely no reason why universities that are basically hedge

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Speaker 7: And then, to add insult to injury, we should kick

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Speaker 1: And as can you help us understand a couple basics

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Speaker 2: Because again we get confused.

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Speaker 2: How much of this am I on the hook for?

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Speaker 5: It already is.

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Speaker 2: Moving on past this.

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Speaker 1: I'm forty two going on eighties, so I love documentaries.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much all I watch anymore. In The Independent

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Speaker 1: Women's Forum has a good one out there. Here's a

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Speaker 8: California has passed legislation allowing transgender inmates in the state's

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Speaker 4: We were very nervous, angry. We weren't given a voice.

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Speaker 9: No one asks how we felt about this, No one did.

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Speaker 8: In September, California a Governor, Gavin Newsom, signed Senate Bill

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Speaker 4: So as soon as the transfer started, there were people

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I really don't think the public.

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Speaker 1: I do care, and I do care that female prisoners

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Speaker 1: Horrible go watch it and as I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna talk to Kirk Cameron next about faith, culture,

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Speaker 1: the country. I love Kirk Cameron out there putting himself

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Speaker 2: Now, before we get to Kirk, you know what else

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Speaker 1: You understand my love of things garlic, cheese, bread, And

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Speaker 1: Alcohol, talks and all the stuff we put in our bodies.

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Speaker 9: Okay, we're really excited to announce we are making a

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Speaker 9: brand new children any what are you doing?

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Speaker 10: Sorry, I was just getting ready for the big announcement.

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Speaker 10: The treehouse isn't gonna build itself? Did you tell them yet?

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Speaker 5: Did you No? No, we haven't told him yet.

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Speaker 2: Would you just like to tell him yourself?

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Speaker 10: Iggie, what little o'me tell everyone one of the most amazing,

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Speaker 10: most important, most groundbreaking announcements ever recorded in the.

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Speaker 3: History the world.

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Speaker 10: That's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 2: What if I mess up?

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Speaker 10: There are probably millions of people watching me right now.

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Speaker 8: You can do it, Ikey, I believe in you.

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Speaker 10: Look up here it goes ladies and gentlemen, boys and squirrels.

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Speaker 10: We're teaming up with Brave Books to make drum roll

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Speaker 10: please my kitch TV show called Adventures with Igny and

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Speaker 10: Miss Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, reminds me of my childhood when you could turn

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Speaker 1: on shows.

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Speaker 2: What my mom, you know, if I'd.

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Speaker 1: Stay at home sick from school, she could just turn

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Speaker 1: on shows a cartoon channel and walk out of the

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Speaker 1: room and just know that I'll probably learn values and.

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Speaker 2: Things from it.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly made me kind of sad I'm thrilled it's there,

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Speaker 1: but it made me sad remembering a different time. Joining

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Speaker 1: me now, obviously the man the host of that, Kirk Cameron,

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Speaker 1: doesn't need me to introduce him the host of the

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Speaker 1: new show Adventures with Iggy.

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Speaker 2: And Mister Kirk Kirk.

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Speaker 1: I know that's a weird way to introduce you in

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Speaker 1: the show, but honestly, watching it, it made me long

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Speaker 1: for a time that's not that ancient.

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Speaker 2: I'm not eighty.

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Speaker 1: Made me long for my childhood when I could watch

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Speaker 1: something like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I agree with you.

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Speaker 9: We used to watch Mister Rogers Neighborhood and have so

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Speaker 9: many great cartoons, and it's those things are like a

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Speaker 9: thing of the past. You look at Coco Melon, you

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Speaker 9: look at Sesame Street, you look at Blues Clues, and

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Speaker 9: they've gone so woke that we have an increase in

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Speaker 9: New Jersey of over four thousand percent of children who

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Speaker 9: are identifying as non binary in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 9: I mean, just just nuts because they're identifying with these characters.

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Speaker 9: It was it was funny the thing that came to

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Speaker 9: my mind when you said you remember that the times

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Speaker 9: when you were at home with your mom and you're

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Speaker 9: watching TV show and now we live in a day

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Speaker 9: that's so different. I know it's like partly because of

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Speaker 9: the stories that we're showing our.

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Speaker 5: Kids reading to our kids.

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Speaker 9: We have kids who grow up and now they're thirty

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Speaker 9: and forty years old, still at home with their mom,

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Speaker 9: watching TV shows and playing video games on the couch.

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Speaker 5: In the living room.

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Speaker 9: And I think it has a lot to do with

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Speaker 9: the values that we're putting into our children at a

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Speaker 9: young age.

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Speaker 5: It's been going on for a long time. It's time

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Speaker 5: that we.

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Speaker 9: Pull back the reins and take hold of our children's future.

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Speaker 9: That's what we're trying to do with this new show

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Speaker 9: that combines biblical moral values with timeless lessons that parents

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Speaker 9: can trust in an entertaining format with animation, high energy,

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Speaker 9: hilarious dialogue, and guest stars in every turn.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a game changer.

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Speaker 1: I think it is too, and I just I treasure

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Speaker 1: this so much for young families out there. I get

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Speaker 1: emails to this show my radio show all the time

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Speaker 1: of Jesse.

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Speaker 2: I can't watch anything with my kids. People don't even

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Speaker 2: turn on their TV.

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Speaker 1: One family emailed me last weekday through out their TV

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Speaker 1: they said, I can't turn on anything with my kids

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Speaker 1: even if we chucked that book.

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Speaker 5: And I make my living a career in television.

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Speaker 9: But if we chucked our TVs out the window, that

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Speaker 9: could be the best thing that we ever do. If

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Speaker 9: we could take our phones and get rid of them

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Speaker 9: in many ways, we would be so much healthier.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 9: I'm not recommending it. I use my phone every day

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Speaker 9: all of that stuff. However, we have technology and abilities

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Speaker 9: that we don't have the moral capacity to handle as

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Speaker 9: a society. And I don't think that means get rid

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Speaker 9: of technology. It means increase your moral capacity understand what's

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Speaker 9: important and right, especially when we have sacred duty as

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Speaker 9: parents and grandparents and train ourselves and our children how

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Speaker 9: to stick with the values and principles that are going

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Speaker 9: to lead to blessing and liberty and protection. Otherwise it's

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Speaker 9: going down the toilet, and it's nobody's fault but ours, Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Before I actually ask you about that in particular, I

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Speaker 1: know everyone wants to know.

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Speaker 2: First of all, how can people watch this? Now?

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Speaker 1: There are so many young families who watch this show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do they watch this? They want entertainment like this?

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Speaker 2: What do they have? To do.

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Speaker 9: So to watch Adventures with Iggy and mister Kirk, you

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Speaker 9: just need to know that it's going to be free.

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Speaker 9: It's coming out of YouTube, it's coming out of Rumble,

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Speaker 9: it's not going to be hard to find. What we're

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Speaker 9: doing is we're actually making the show now and we're

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Speaker 9: building an army of people that are helping us make

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Speaker 9: it happen. So, because it's not being funded by Hollywood

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Speaker 9: or Netflix or some big streaming platform, we have to

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Speaker 9: raise the money ourselves to create this kind of like

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Speaker 9: The Chosen did.

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Speaker 5: Right, you don't want Sony to make The Chosen, or.

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Speaker 9: You don't want some big company tied to Black Rock

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Speaker 9: and Vanguard to make the show because it's likely going

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Speaker 9: to sabotage the values. So they had the audience chip

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Speaker 9: in the dollars to make it so that it can

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Speaker 9: stay in the hands of the people who care. So

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Speaker 9: we're asking people through Brave Books to join this fundraiser

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Speaker 9: and help us raise the money for twenty episodes of

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Speaker 9: this free television program. We've got enough funding for almost

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Speaker 9: two episodes now, and you can go to watch Brave

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Speaker 9: dot com. That's watch Brave dot com and you can

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Speaker 9: support us and get in on some of these great rewards,

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Speaker 9: like getting two tickets to the red carpet premiere of

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Speaker 9: Adventures with Iggy and Mister Kirk in Nashville, and we've

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Speaker 9: got a really coolly cool after party where you can

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Speaker 9: hang out with us and ask all kinds of questions

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Speaker 9: and celebrate. You can also get one of your kids

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Speaker 9: or grandkids in one of the episodes of the television program.

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Speaker 9: So there's all kinds of great rewards, but we need

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Speaker 9: to raise the funds for it, and that's what Brave

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Speaker 9: Books is doing. And I'm leaning in and doing my

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Speaker 9: part as mister Kirk and getting the word out right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: I'll be making a donation about the time that we

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Speaker 1: hang up from this interview. One hundred percent in Kirk,

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Speaker 1: social media, the phones you brought up, the technology, the

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Speaker 1: endless wave of filth that comes at us these days

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Speaker 1: from so many different ways, ways that you and I

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Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with, honestly when we were younger.

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Speaker 1: How does a young family, a Christian family, raise your

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Speaker 1: children with their eyes focused on the right things? How

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Speaker 1: do you deal with the balance, Because I understand, honestly,

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Speaker 1: you can move to the mountains and cut off all

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Speaker 1: electricity and you can honestly live a much more pure life.

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Speaker 1: But we can't pull ourselves out of society that's full

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Speaker 1: of darkness anyway. We have to be in it. So

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Speaker 1: what's the balance? What do you do as a parent

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Speaker 1: with your children?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm learning this as I go.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to be a grandfather soon, and things are

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Speaker 9: worse now than they were when my kids were little

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Speaker 9: and we gave them phones.

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Speaker 5: I've made a documentary.

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Speaker 9: About this, but things are changing so rapidly, so I'm

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Speaker 9: not an expert in it. But what I do know

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Speaker 9: is this, there is nothing in the world that will

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Speaker 9: replace a mom and dad and grandparents' time invested connecting

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Speaker 9: with your children and establishing a real relationship with them

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Speaker 9: that is built on love and grace. Your kids are

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Speaker 9: going to mess up with the phones as long as

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Speaker 9: there's technology out there. They're going to find a way

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Speaker 9: to access porn, or they're going to access people or

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Speaker 9: friends who have a phone who do have inappropriate stuff

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Speaker 9: on there and go down rabbit holes. That is likely

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Speaker 9: going to be inevitable unless you're Amish and you live

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Speaker 9: in a Waldorf community and you're not having access to that.

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Speaker 5: Even then, I still think they're going to get access

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Speaker 5: to it. So what do you do.

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Speaker 9: Understand that living in relationship with God and setting an

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Speaker 9: example for your kids that is genuine and sincere, letting

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Speaker 9: them know that you struggle with the same things they

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Speaker 9: struggle with, and that we're all learning together, and we

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Speaker 9: have a hope, we have a north star, we have

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Speaker 9: an anchor for our souls that can give us power

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Speaker 9: to rise up above these things and give them a

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Speaker 9: hunger and thirst for what is good and true and

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Speaker 9: beautiful and right by letting them see how that in

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Speaker 9: you produces a superior way of living, and as you

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Speaker 9: stay in relationship with them, teach them how to use

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Speaker 9: the phone, teach them how to use the computer, get

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Speaker 9: all the locks and the controls that you can put

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Speaker 9: on there to protect them. We've got to do all

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Speaker 9: of that. But in the end, I don't think there's

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Speaker 9: a quick fix. I think it has to do with relationship,

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Speaker 9: has to do with genuine, authentic living and teaching them

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Speaker 9: the truth so that they love it. Because what they

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Speaker 9: really need is they need to download a filter that

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Speaker 9: is much stronger than anything Google or Apple can provide.

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Speaker 9: It's called the fear of the Lord and the love

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Speaker 9: for righteousness and goodness and beauty and truth. Once they

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Speaker 9: have that, they'll filter the stuff out themselves like a good, mature,

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Speaker 9: god fearing adult can do. That's what we're ultimately shooting for,

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Speaker 9: because when they turn eighteen, all the filters come off. Anyway,

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Speaker 9: they got to be able to handle all this stuff

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Speaker 9: on their own with internal filters.

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Speaker 5: You're putting your kids together to give them away, So

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Speaker 5: start training them now. Put the controls on.

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Speaker 9: And slowly start taking them off as you transition responsibility

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Speaker 9: to them.

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Speaker 2: Kirk, I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: Once again, really quickly, if you don't mind, give out

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Speaker 1: the website for people who want to support this.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to support this.

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Speaker 9: Please please go to watch Brave dot com. Watch Brave

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Speaker 9: dot com and together, as an audience who care about

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Speaker 9: this stuff more than anybody else, let's make this and

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Speaker 9: significantly change the landscape when it comes to children's programming.

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Speaker 2: Watch Brave dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, match me, Kirk. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: very much, sir. Thank you all right.

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Speaker 2: Ai.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it, but apparently it's going bad on

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Speaker 1: us quickly because we let the communists write the system

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Speaker 1: how bad? Talk about that next. Before we talk about that,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about scams. Timeshare companies really make me angry.

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Speaker 1: Scammers make me angry in general. I hate the email

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Speaker 1: that suckers in. Maybe the elderly person. I'm stranded in Africa,

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Speaker 1: please send money. And obviously that doesn't probably work on you,

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Speaker 1: but it works on enough people that they still do it.

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Speaker 1: That's why they do it. These timeshare companies have been

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Speaker 1: doing this kind of crap forever. They get you into

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Speaker 1: a timeshare and they could just a sign that contract

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Speaker 1: and then you find out when you try to get

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Speaker 1: out of it one day that you're locked in for life.

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Speaker 2: That's what they tell you.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, pay your annual fees.

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Speaker 2: Are you one out? Too bad? So sad? Lone Star

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Speaker 2: Transfer will get you out.

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Speaker 1: They will take on that time share company and they

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Speaker 1: having ninety nine percent chance of getting you out.

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Speaker 2: That's how successful they are. You pick up that phone,

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Speaker 2: you call.

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Speaker 1: Lone Star Transfer ninety nine percent of the time they

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Speaker 1: will get you legally and permanently free of that burden.

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Speaker 1: Please call them, don't sit andn agonized, don't pay another

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Speaker 1: annual fee until you call lone star transfer eight four

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Speaker 1: four three one zero two six four six.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: I understand about that much of AI. It's way too

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Speaker 1: intelligent for me, but I also understand that really, really

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Speaker 1: bad people are creating it and it's going to be

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Speaker 1: our future. It's going to be involved in everything, and

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Speaker 1: I want to know exactly what's going on. So joining

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Speaker 1: me now, Senior counsel for the Internet Accountability Project, and

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Speaker 1: my friend Will Chamberlain.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Will.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who's been looking at the news for the past

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Speaker 1: couple of days has seen this new Google AI and

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Speaker 1: there's some sort of controversy around it. Maybe you can

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Speaker 1: update us to begin with on what exactly happened.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So, Google, like many other major tech companies, doesn't

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Speaker 11: want to get left behind in the AI arms race,

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Speaker 11: so they've been building their own language learning model, basically

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Speaker 11: something you can just ask questions to and it will

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Speaker 11: give responses, and those responses aren't like pre programmed in.

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Speaker 11: It's like that, you know, the AI model scours the

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Speaker 11: Internet to try and understand the English language and understand

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Speaker 11: information and then so that it can respond to questions

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Speaker 11: on its own. That said, because you know the AI

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Speaker 11: is being still programmed by people. You know, those biases

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Speaker 11: of those people tend to find a way into the

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Speaker 11: way the AI responds to questions. I mean, in this case,

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Speaker 11: the biases are those of incredibly woke leftist idiots, those

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Speaker 11: people that Google hired. I mean, the guy who runs

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Speaker 11: the Google AI program it's called Gemini, is noted for

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Speaker 11: on Twitter talking about how terrible white privilege is and

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Speaker 11: how terrible white people are.

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Speaker 2: More generally, and.

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Speaker 11: As a result, you have an AI that can't function,

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Speaker 11: that doesn't answer questions properly. So when you ask it,

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Speaker 11: for example, to like, come up generate an image of

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Speaker 11: a pope, it generates an image of a black pope.

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Speaker 11: When you ask it to generate an image of white people,

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Speaker 11: it says, no, we don't do that here. When you

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Speaker 11: ask it to generate an image of anybody, you know,

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Speaker 11: like any other group, it just automatically inserts, we need

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Speaker 11: to have a diverse image here, and then creates diverse

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Speaker 11: images of groups of people where there may or may

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Speaker 11: not have been any diversity in the first place, especially

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Speaker 11: like when you think about you know, his history where

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Speaker 11: there would not or historical examples from the far past

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Speaker 11: where there wouldn't have been a diverse group of racial individuals. Rather,

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Speaker 11: so you have a very very very What it ends

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Speaker 11: up being is a very stupid AI, an AI that

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Speaker 11: can't respond to questions effectively. And I think it's sort

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Speaker 11: of a microcosm of how Dei and wokeness makes a

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Speaker 11: stupider as a general principle, right if it makes it

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Speaker 11: just this is a very very good example of you

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Speaker 11: program an AI with wokeness and Dei and it suddenly

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Speaker 11: can't answer basic questions, whereas other ais are perfectly capable

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Speaker 11: of it.

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Speaker 1: Will I don't know how concerned I should be about Google.

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Speaker 1: I know this is a massively powerful company, and please

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Speaker 1: tell me if I should be very concerned. But the

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Speaker 1: concept of this in general concerns me. It concerns me.

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Speaker 2: The White House knows how important this is.

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Speaker 1: They've already announced that they're going to get involved with AI.

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Speaker 1: That it seems like the people who hate us the

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Speaker 1: most are the ones creating this.

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Speaker 2: And that's a problem, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think the the problem is that AI

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Speaker 11: is going to eventually replace search engines. Right, It's going

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Speaker 11: to be the way that most people sort of use

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Speaker 11: as their portal to learning things and understanding things, and

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Speaker 11: that includes our kits. Like if ais are already this

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Speaker 11: good in terms of you know, basic responses to questions

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Speaker 11: this year, and they're they're increasing and capability very quickly,

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Speaker 11: then that'll be your sort of default way of interacting

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Speaker 11: with the Internet, I think. And if the default way

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Speaker 11: of interacting with the Internet and how you get is

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Speaker 11: asking questions and then getting woke responses in turn, that

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Speaker 11: that sort of has deep implications for how our children

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Speaker 11: will end up learning in the future. And so that's

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Speaker 11: I think the big scary thing, I mean, the the

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Speaker 11: general I think the there's sort of an overblown sci

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Speaker 11: fi version where we need to be scared of AI

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Speaker 11: taking over the world, like through Skynet or something. I

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Speaker 11: don't think that's quite the right analogy here, because I mean,

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Speaker 11: the language learning model is not going to take over

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Speaker 11: the world. But these these things are really about you know,

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Speaker 11: education and AI are going to be very you know,

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Speaker 11: AI is going to be instrumental in how our kids

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Speaker 11: are educated in the future, and we don't we want

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Speaker 11: AIS that are truth seeking. I mean, that's that's why

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Speaker 11: Elon Musk is developing his own AI at.

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Speaker 1: X how how should the right handle this issue? Will

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Speaker 1: meaning obviously we love to be hands off, Hey, do

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Speaker 1: what you want. It's it's you know, free markets, that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. At the same time, we can't allow

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Speaker 1: our enemies to take over every single critical system, including

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Speaker 1: our education system, with things.

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Speaker 2: That hate us.

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Speaker 1: So what's how do we split the baby here?

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Speaker 11: I think it's a you know, it's a combination of things. Generally,

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Speaker 11: we're looking more and more at antitrust at companies like Google.

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Speaker 11: There's no reason we should be nice to Google at all.

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Speaker 11: They're they're an adversary of the conservative movement, and so

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Speaker 11: we should be hostile for them more generally. And then

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Speaker 11: I think when it comes to education, and that's about

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Speaker 11: you know, putting in policy place policies a lot like

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Speaker 11: what Ron de Santis has been doing banning wokeness. Because

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Speaker 11: you put you put in place with the right policies

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Speaker 11: banning wokeness. More generally, they're also gonna, you know, change

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Speaker 11: the way that these ais are developed so that they

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Speaker 11: can be used in these schools. It's kind of the

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Speaker 11: analogy would be how Texas was able to control how

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Speaker 11: textbooks were developed by putting in place conservative rules for

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Speaker 11: its schools about what could be in textbooks.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my brother, I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 2: All right, it is time to lighten the mood. Now.

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Speaker 1: all right, it is time to lighten the mood.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's time to lighten the mood and listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of honoring people, right, honoring people

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Speaker 1: from our past, whoever it may be, societal leaders of

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Speaker 1: any kind, veterans, heroes. I like naming buildings after them, statues.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of that. Sometimes, though, you can

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Speaker 1: run into a problem and look, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the solution is, but sometimes you run into a problem.

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Speaker 7: A former Fort Wayne mayor is getting some national attention.

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Speaker 11: Thousands of people.

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Speaker 7: Voted online to name the new City County building in

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Speaker 7: his honor, but.

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Speaker 6: That probably won't happen because of his name. News Channeliftien's

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Speaker 6: Don Austin is here to explain.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 12: Heather marked that people voted, and the top pick so

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Speaker 12: far with more than ten thousand votes, is the Harry

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Speaker 12: Balls Government Center, named after one of the city's longest

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Speaker 12: serving mayors. But not everyone's on board with that name.

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Speaker 9: Well, Harry Bales apparently was a great mayor. That's what

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Speaker 9: I'm hearing if you read the comments.

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Speaker 1: Actually, some people are.

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Speaker 9: Very serious about what he did as mayor.

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Speaker 7: The family was, you know, it's part of our history.

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Speaker 10: I think it's part of the history we're proud of.

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Speaker 12: To pick the new name for the building, people went

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Speaker 12: over to feedback Fort Wayne dot org. They made suggestions

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Speaker 12: and voted. The overwhelming front runner was the Harry Balls

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Speaker 12: Government Center. Harry Balls was the mayor of Fort Wayne

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Speaker 12: back in the nineteen thirties and forties. He even served

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Speaker 12: a term in the nineteen fifties. We have a street

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Speaker 12: named after Harry Balls, So what's the big deal about

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Speaker 12: naming the new city county government building after him.

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Speaker 6: I feel that it'd be an honor to have the

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Speaker 6: building named after him, and so many.

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Speaker 2: People have voted for it.

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Speaker 1: I say, lets the people have the same. I agree

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Speaker 1: with the people. Salute to you, Harry, pauls Ecedrama