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Speaker 1: Hersday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1: kicks off now and excited to be with all of you.

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Speaker 1: As we know, we're coming up on a holiday weekend here,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to see things slow down a little

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Speaker 1: bit in the realm of politics, but not for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: He's heading to the Bronx and we will have a

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Speaker 1: discussion about what's going to happen there. Just to give

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Speaker 1: you a sense of where we're going on the show today,

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Speaker 1: hoping you'll join us for all three hours if you

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Speaker 1: can remember, we have a little commercial break and go

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Speaker 1: get yourself some Crockett coffee. Come back, We've got Medal

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Speaker 1: of Honor winner recipient Clint Ramesha will be joining us

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Speaker 1: at one point thirty Eastern, so the middle of the show,

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Speaker 1: he's going to talk to us about an initiative he's

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Speaker 1: involved in. And if you saw the movie The out Post,

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Speaker 1: it is Clint Ramesha is the kind of the main

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Speaker 1: person that is in that movie about the battle twelve

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Speaker 1: hour back of Camdesh in the war in Afghanistan. Third hour,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have Batya Unger Sargan, who is an

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Speaker 1: opinion editor at Newsweek with her book Second Class, How

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Speaker 1: the Elites Betrayed America's working men and women. So I

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Speaker 1: think that the title alone, let's you know, I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be a really worthwhile discussion of Batia is a

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Speaker 1: very astute observer of what's going on in the country.

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Speaker 1: Nikki Haley weighs in on who she is going to

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Speaker 1: support here. I don't think there'll be any surprises, but

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll keep some of you on the edge of

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Speaker 1: your seat with that one. We've also got let me

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Speaker 1: see here more on the border and immigration. James Comy

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Speaker 1: making the rounds, trying to get more attention for himself

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Speaker 1: in all of this. And yeah, I'll bring you the

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Speaker 1: latest about the border in a little bit, But first

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Speaker 1: let's start with the Trump Bronx and y c rally

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Speaker 1: and why this is going to be a broader theme

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Speaker 1: in the campaign. First of all, Clay sent me last

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Speaker 1: night that there's a an unfurling of a Trump mugshot

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Speaker 1: banner that occurred at Yankee Stadium with never Surrender on it.

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Speaker 1: We should put this up at clayanbuck dot com so

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Speaker 1: everybody can can take a peek at this one.

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Speaker 2: And then Trump shared that picture that I shared on

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Speaker 2: truth social remember Trump big Yankees fan back in the day.

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Speaker 2: He was there with George Steinbrenner all the time, so

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Speaker 2: he really enjoyed that banner being unfurled. So if the

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Speaker 2: people who unfurled that banner are listening right now on WOOR,

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Speaker 2: which would not be a huge surprise. President Trump himself

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Speaker 2: appreciated that banner, loved it, and I thought it was funny.

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Speaker 2: This is something I've learned because you're from New York

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Speaker 2: City and I didn't know New York City well. But

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Speaker 2: the first response right after I tweeted that Buck was well,

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Speaker 2: we know where the guys from Staten Island are sitting,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was was very funny because for anybody

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Speaker 2: out there in New York City, as you pointed out

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Speaker 2: and have talked about on this show quite a lot,

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Speaker 2: That was good New York City humor. But he's in

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Speaker 2: the Bronx AOC's district. This is a real shot across

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Speaker 2: the bow. If they have a good attendance and good event,

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Speaker 2: even to schedule it is pretty brash ced with Bravado.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see how this is going to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that this is a moment where you'll get

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Speaker 2: a lot of attention on a range of things. One

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Speaker 2: is that Donald Trump very much wants to see his

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Speaker 2: support among male I mean all minorities, but particularly I

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Speaker 2: think he sees young male minorities, young black men, young

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Speaker 2: Hispanic men. Because the Bronx is for those who aren't

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Speaker 2: you familiar with New York City, Yeah, tell us about

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Speaker 2: the area there, because a lot most people don't really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Bronx is a very it's very

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Speaker 1: of New York City, and it's best known I think

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Speaker 1: for well two things Yankee Stadium and the Bronx Zoo

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Speaker 1: I don't even if it exists anymore. And then the

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Speaker 1: other thing, unfortunately the Bronx is known for is having

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Speaker 1: for many decades. Now, even with the decline in crime

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Speaker 1: There's a certain affinity that New Yorkers I think have

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Speaker 1: for you know, well particularly Yankees fans have for the borough.

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Speaker 1: And it's an opportunity for Trump to give a speech

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Speaker 1: in a place that's Democrats think of as their backyard

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Speaker 1: intern politically speaking, you know, this is a very heavily

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Speaker 1: not like going to Staten Island, where you know, he'd

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Speaker 1: talking about. But I think that He's going to be

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Speaker 1: The people that are hurt the most are people that

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Speaker 1: So I think Trump is going to hit.

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Speaker 1: Them on the on the crime issue and Democrats just

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Speaker 1: to clean up cities. And then also I'd be interested

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Speaker 1: groceries and rents, you know, living up up in the Bronx,

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Speaker 2: I think this has the potential as we head into

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Speaker 2: in MSNBC and CNN because traditionally, what do they say?

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Speaker 2: We can't even cover Donald trump rallies because there's so

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Speaker 2: many lies cut away from his acceptance speech after he

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Speaker 2: wins in Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina. Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, let me grab my pearls and fall onto

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Speaker 2: my fainting couch. Can you believe what Trump's saying? Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Biden is lying like crazy, and that's when he can

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Speaker 2: actually even read his teleprompter. Imagine if there are ten

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Speaker 2: How does MSNBC or CNN explain to their audience that

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Speaker 2: the man they say is uniquely racist and totally unacceptable

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Speaker 2: to large swaths of the American public, That he's able

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Speaker 2: where he's doing it is such a ballsy move. Right now,

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Speaker 2: they had another poll come out. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you saw it. Buck Trump was down nine I think yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It came out in New York. He lost, according to

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Speaker 2: There's been a couple of single digit New York polls. Well,

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Speaker 2: if suddenly he goes into AOC's district what's seen as

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a shockway for the left.

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Speaker 2: I really do, because think about this, is there anywhere

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Speaker 2: draw a crowd? I mean that, honestly, Trump might be

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Speaker 2: able to draw more people in the South Bronx than

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Speaker 2: Biden can for a rally, even if that that group.

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Speaker 2: But if imagine Biden going into a deep red district

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Speaker 2: and trying to do a rally, no one would show it.

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Speaker 1: I think this is in Coretona Park, right, So it's

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Speaker 1: not this. The rally isn't in this. Yankee Stadium is

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Speaker 1: And so aoc is is the congress the congresswoman for

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Speaker 1: Queens and a part of the Bronx, but it's more

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, this is what people when they think of

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Speaker 1: But that Trump could go into to your point about

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Speaker 1: this shows is Trump has a there's a look, I

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Speaker 1: know he's a former president, there's still a celebrity appeal

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Speaker 3: I think him.

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Speaker 1: Showing up somewhere and doing a rally is a show.

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Speaker 1: And you know, no one can disagree with this. It's

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Speaker 1: not a show. When Biden arrives, it's another politician who's

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Speaker 1: been doing this his whole life, who's going to say

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Speaker 1: what he's supposed to say and pretend to care about

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Speaker 1: It's always the same crap, right, everyone knows everyone with

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's the same thing. Look for people who liked Obama,

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Speaker 1: I will admit Obama was a celebrity event for them

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people, there's a curiosity that maybe

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Speaker 3: And now I'm speaking specifically, if you live in this.

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Speaker 1: Part of New York City roughly speaking right, if you

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Speaker 1: quite honestly, Clay Biden hasn't delivered for you. So maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe some people want to show up who just want

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna get a great show. I mean, a

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in team to Clay and Buck

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Speaker 5: As a voter, I've put my priorities on a president

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Speaker 1: Told everybody she's gonna fall in line. Yeah, everyone is

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Speaker 7: Will you certify the election results?

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Speaker 8: It's a yes or no question.

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Speaker 9: So you're asking will you promise no matter what, to

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Speaker 1: he did, Clay, He was selfish. He used the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to speak to those Morehouse graduates for his own narrow

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Speaker 1: and immediate political purposes. And it's gross, but that's who

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is. He'll talk about dead family members for

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Speaker 1: political advantage. He'll talk about the country in a way

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Speaker 1: that doesn't reflect the country that he or those graduates

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Speaker 1: lives in, because he knows that this is being recorded

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Speaker 1: and it's getting into the news cycle, and he's hoping

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Speaker 1: that other people across the country will respond to his

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Speaker 1: message of victimization. And you know, they're out to get

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Speaker 1: you and all the rest by voting for him in

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Speaker 1: the fall. So to me, you know, there's something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's an aspect of Biden that was pandering in

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Speaker 1: the speech. But more than that, he was he was

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Speaker 1: acting in a way that was really just putting his

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Speaker 1: own interests ahead of the graduates. And I just think

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Speaker 1: it's shameful. And I will say there's been a pretty

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Speaker 1: negative across the board negative response to that speech. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody thinks it was a good speech that

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Speaker 1: he gave because there was nothing.

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Speaker 3: There was nothing in it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I watched it, right, I mean I watched

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Speaker 1: the whole There's nothing in it that was inspiring.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing in it that was really, you know.

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Speaker 1: Meant to get those young people fired up about to

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Speaker 1: your point, how incredibly lucky. I mean, if you were

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Speaker 1: a college graduate in America today in and honestly, if

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Speaker 1: you're just an American today, but if you're a college

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Speaker 1: graduate in America today in twenty twenty four, you know

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Speaker 1: the opportunities and the world that you are living in.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing, an amazing place, and it's honestly

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Speaker 1: a responsibility to have been given so much. And instead

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Speaker 1: of focusing on that, Joe Biden's like, yeah, Trump's a racist,

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Speaker 1: vote for me. I mean, that was really what the

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Speaker 1: speech was focused on more than anything else. Also, there

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Speaker 1: are some Trump has not to sorry Clayton, there are

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Speaker 1: some deficiencies that Trump has, Okay, personnel, We've talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Trump is not a racist, Yes, he's just not.

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Speaker 2: Correct correct, And we should mention, of course that Hillary

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Speaker 2: Republicans objected in twenty twenty. I would almost guarantee you

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into clay En Boch. We're joined by Batya

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Speaker 1: Unger Sarga. She is an opinion editor at Newsweek has

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Speaker 1: a new book out, Second Class, How the Elites Betrayed

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Speaker 1: America's working men and Women. Batia, this is fortunate. It's

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Speaker 1: one of those times where the title itself gets a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of conversation started. I think because people recognize

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Speaker 1: that something's gone on. I mean, I could talk just

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Speaker 1: about the elite selling out to China and what that's

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Speaker 1: done to American manufacturing and workers. But let's let you

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Speaker 1: lead us first here, Where should we start? How and

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Speaker 1: why have the elites betrayed America's working men and women?

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Speaker 7: Well, thank you guys so much for having me. It's

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Speaker 7: really thrilling to be here with you. It's music to

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Speaker 7: my ears hear you say that, because I really wanted

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Speaker 7: this book to be a conversation starter. There's so much

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Speaker 7: in it that I think feels incredibly intuitive, especially to

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Speaker 7: working class people or people like you, guys whose lives

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Speaker 7: are not totally separate from working class people the way

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Speaker 7: that many and the elites are. It's so obvious that

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Speaker 7: life has become incredibly difficult for the hardest working Americans.

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Speaker 7: So I really wanted to explain how that happened, why

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Speaker 7: that happened, and how we fix it. And so I

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Speaker 7: traveled around the country for a year interviewing working class

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Speaker 7: people from all political persuasions, all races, lots of different

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Speaker 7: industries to get their thoughts on whether they think they

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Speaker 7: still have a fair shot at the American dream and

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Speaker 7: really how we could increase their shot at the American

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Speaker 7: d dream. And I heard a lot of them talking

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Speaker 7: about how betrayed they feel by the elites and by

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Speaker 7: the way by the elites. They don't mean billionaires. A

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Speaker 7: lot of them admire billionaires. They see billionaires as jobs creators.

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Speaker 7: By the elites, they mean that sort of credentialed, college

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Speaker 7: over educated elite in the top twenty percent in professional

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Speaker 7: managerial jobs, who really, over the course of the last

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Speaker 7: four years, have been engaged in a plunder of the

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Speaker 7: middle class and upward transfer of wealth of middle class

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Speaker 7: wages into their own pockets.

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Speaker 2: Are you optimistic that things are going to get better

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Speaker 2: for people who are out there working on a day

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Speaker 2: to day basis. I mean, when you look at inflation,

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Speaker 2: which has taken a huge bite out of their paychecks

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Speaker 2: and all of our paychecks, but in particular when you

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Speaker 2: live paycheck to paycheck, it has far more of an impact.

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Speaker 2: Are you optimistic that the general trend minds can be

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Speaker 2: in their favor or do you think things are perpetual

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Speaker 2: against them.

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Speaker 7: I'm really curious what you guys think about this. I

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Speaker 7: feel totally optimistic. I'll tell you why. We don't remember this,

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Speaker 7: but when Trump came into office, there was a handshake

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Speaker 7: agreement between the two parties that we should have free

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Speaker 7: trade with China. I mean, that was the orthodoxy that

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Speaker 7: governed the Democrats and the Republicans at the time, and

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Speaker 7: Trump showed up and just took an axe to that

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Speaker 7: neoliberal order and said, We're not gonna have free trade

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Speaker 7: with China, We're never trade war. And he put these

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Speaker 7: tariffs on seal and aluminum, put tariffs on other things,

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Speaker 7: really tried to write that trade deficit that we had.

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Speaker 7: And now he was so successful that President Biden has

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Speaker 7: been unable to undo all of that work and has

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Speaker 7: actually kept a lot of those tariffs. So if you

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Speaker 7: think about how the ship was totally going in one direction,

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Speaker 7: and one man could show up with the mandate given

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Speaker 7: to him by his voters and totally turn that around

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Speaker 7: so much so that his enemy, who undid every other

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Speaker 7: good thing he did, could not undo it. I mean

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Speaker 7: that makes me feel so optimistic. I mean, on immigration again,

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Speaker 7: like it was in the nineties, it was the Democrats

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Speaker 7: who wanted to control the border because they wanted to

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Speaker 7: protect working class wages, and it was the Republicans who

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Speaker 7: wanted to give amnesty to all of these people. Now

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Speaker 7: there really is a consensus among working Americans that immigration

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Speaker 7: has gone off the charts too much and that we

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Speaker 7: really need to stop this and by the way, that's

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Speaker 7: liberals and conservative working class people.

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Speaker 1: I just want to note, Botya, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is so important. Trump's victory on the trade issue came

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Speaker 1: not only against the Democrat opposition to him.

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Speaker 3: They just hate anything that Trump.

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Speaker 1: Does, but even Republicans were initially very critical, and he

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Speaker 1: broke with the DC consensus, you could say, the Swamp

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Speaker 1: consensus on trade. And the people that I know who

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Speaker 1: really study trade like that, the trade nerds out there.

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Speaker 1: I would have them on and talk to them, and

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Speaker 1: they would point out we were already in a trade war.

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Speaker 1: It was just a one way trade as in China

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Speaker 1: was waging a trade war against US, and we were saying, well,

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Speaker 1: let's just keep promoting free trade, and it was it

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Speaker 1: was an absurdity. And Trump came and stopped that. And

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that you make note. You get into that

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Speaker 1: in your book Second Class, How the Elites Betrayed America's

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Speaker 1: working men and Women. That's the book by Batia Hunger Sargan.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the immigration issue. This is one it's one

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Speaker 1: of the I think most fascinating and honestly most important

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Speaker 1: issues in America today and has been for many years.

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Speaker 1: There's more focus on it now than there has been

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Speaker 1: a while. But let's break down some of what it

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Speaker 1: really means. You mentioned protecting wages. What does it mean

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Speaker 1: for the cost of a house? What does it mean

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Speaker 1: for wages to have not just a lot of mass

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Speaker 1: immigration in general, but now millions upon millions, eight million

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Speaker 1: is probably the number for Biden's first term coming into

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Speaker 1: the country illegally.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really really important issue. The way that

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Speaker 7: I think about it is like this. You know, first,

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Speaker 7: they shipped good paying manufacturing jobs overseas to build up

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Speaker 7: China and Mexico's middle class.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: They took these great jobs, five million of them, and

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Speaker 7: just handed them off to our enemies. And then President

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Speaker 7: Obama defunded vocational training, cutting off another avenue to the

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Speaker 7: American dream for working class people. And then they invited

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Speaker 7: in millions and millions and millions of illegal immigrants over

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Speaker 7: the course of the last fifty years. But really, like

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Speaker 7: you said, over the last four years, turbocharge to undercut

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Speaker 7: further the jobs that remained here. It is so crazy

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Speaker 7: to remember that meat packing jobs, those used to be

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Speaker 7: the job to have. They were great wages, great benefits,

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Speaker 7: you know, great protections for workers, All of that is gone.

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Speaker 7: It is now they employ tons and tons of illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 7: which means that it drives down the wages. There are

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Speaker 7: no more protections for workers, no more benefits. So they

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Speaker 7: then devalued the jobs that remained here. And if you

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Speaker 7: objected to that as a working class person who was

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Speaker 7: trying to understand why is it that my parents were

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Speaker 7: able to support my family and buy a home on

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Speaker 7: a single income and I'm working two or three jobs

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Speaker 7: and I can't support my children. You're trying to struggle

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Speaker 7: to understand that, and you call it out, you get

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Speaker 7: called a racist and smeared as a racist. That is

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Speaker 7: the move that the leftist elites do to mask their

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Speaker 7: plunder of the working class and the middle class, which

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Speaker 7: put money in their pockets, because of course they are

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Speaker 7: the people who employ these illegal immigrants. So when they

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Speaker 7: open that border and flood these industries, whether it's cleaning

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Speaker 7: or landscaping, or meat packing or healthcare at the lower

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Speaker 7: end of that, they flood it with illegal workers. Everything's

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Speaker 7: cheaper for them, right, they don't have to pay what

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Speaker 7: they would have paid an American worker. And you know

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Speaker 7: the proof that this is intentional is. Listen to DHS

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Speaker 7: Secretary Alejandro Majorcis. Every time he has asked about the border,

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Speaker 7: and I mean every time. He did it again three

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Speaker 7: days ago on Fox News. He's done it every time

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Speaker 7: he's been before Congress or the Senate when he has

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Speaker 7: asked about the border. What does he say? He says,

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Speaker 7: our corporations have jobs they can't fill. He thinks his

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Speaker 2: Based on your travels, we got Trump having his rally

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Speaker 2: data out there is reflecting that in particular for men,

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Speaker 3: Does that surprise you?

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Republican Party actually has way more

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's the Republican Party because I found

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Speaker 7: class conservatives hate more than the Democratic Party and it's

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Speaker 7: was embodied by someone like Nikki Hayley, the kind of

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Speaker 7: the Chamber of Commerce version. They are defecting from the

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Speaker 7: Democratic Party for Trumps. He's really running like a third

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Speaker 7: party candidate, is what he's done, and as an incumbent

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Speaker 7: because he has that record. And I'll tell you something funny.

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Speaker 7: When I was reporting my book, I was traveling around

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Speaker 7: the country interviewing working class people, and you know, many

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Speaker 7: was planning to vote for Biden. And I said to myself, girl,

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Speaker 7: something's off, like your your your selection bias is off,

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Speaker 7: wasn't until you know, a year later, that I started

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Speaker 7: black men who feel totally sold out by the kind

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Speaker 7: of feminized version of the Democratic Party that puts a

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Speaker 7: total premium out of college education, that welcomed in millions

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Speaker 7: and millions of people to compete for that with them

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Speaker 1: The boat out by Batia Hunger Stargan is fantastic. Highly

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Speaker 1: Please come back soon.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much. God bless you guys.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be interesting to see the numbers that support the

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Second Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. We are joined now

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Speaker 2: by Clint Romache, former staff Sergeant Medal of Honor recipient

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Speaker 2: for an exceptional bravery during the twelve hour Battle of

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Speaker 2: Comdesh in the War in Afghanistan. His new book, Red Platoon,

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Speaker 2: a true story of American valor, is out a great

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Speaker 2: one for all of you to consider as you get

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Speaker 2: ready for Memorial Day weekend. And he's also a part

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Speaker 2: of Pure Talk's partnership with America's Warrior Partnership in the

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Speaker 2: quest to stop veteran suicides. Clint, we appreciate the service

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Speaker 2: and we appreciate you coming on with us right now.

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Speaker 2: The numbers are pretty staggering on suicide as it pertains

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Speaker 2: to veterans. What's Peer Talk helping to do and what

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Speaker 2: would you say to anyone out there who might be

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Speaker 2: struggling with mental health issues listening to us right now

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Speaker 2: in terms of being able to get help.

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Speaker 8: Well, thank you for having me back on the show,

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Speaker 8: you know, rolling into this Memorial Day weekend, and what

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Speaker 8: Peer Talk has been doing with America's Warrior Partnership in

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Speaker 8: the alarming numbers of what we're seeing around our nation

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Speaker 8: with our veterans suicide issues understanding, you know, it's not

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Speaker 8: just one simple thing that's going to fix it all.

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Speaker 8: It's a multitude of issues, you know, and Peer Talk

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Speaker 8: has just been such a great partner, as you guys

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Speaker 8: remember last year they helped do the roundup, ten million

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Speaker 8: dollar round up to help give veterans debt relief. You know,

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Speaker 8: so they really put their money where their mouth is.

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Speaker 8: They're doing it by action. And as we continue into

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Speaker 8: this weekend, you know, it's a somber and kind of

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Speaker 8: weekend and experience to sit there and you the biggest

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Speaker 8: thing I'd like to convey to the veterans that might

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Speaker 8: be struggling. You never did anything alone during your time

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Speaker 8: in the military. You always had a battle buddy. You

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Speaker 8: have always had someone watching your back. You still have that.

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Speaker 8: Don't forget that we were there for you. We'll always

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Speaker 8: be there for you. You just got to let us

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Speaker 1: Clint, thanks so much for being with us and thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service. Can you just tell us a

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Speaker 1: bit about to that end to help veterans who are

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Speaker 1: going through a very difficult time, and of course a

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Speaker 1: dealing with that. Now that some of these wars have

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't change the reality veterans are still very

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Speaker 1: much struggling. What are some of the America's Warrior Partnership

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Speaker 1: programs specifically, I mean what happens, you know, if a

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Speaker 8: So American Warrior Partnership we're the conduit that on a

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Speaker 8: nal national level, we partner with local communities, local veteran

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Speaker 8: service organizations, nonprofits, government agencies, and we try to reconnect

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Speaker 8: that veteran with whatever issue it might be, back into

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Speaker 8: their local community because, as we know, the best way

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Speaker 8: to solve a problem is at the lowest level, and

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Speaker 8: we provide that service through our Warrior serve that when

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Speaker 8: it's a financial issue, whether it's trying to figure out

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Speaker 8: like I said, to their communities to solve that problem

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Speaker 8: and have over a ninety percent success rate on veterans

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Speaker 8: that call into our network and understanding it's a whole

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Speaker 8: term of care that provides kind of ending the suicide

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Speaker 8: the suicide crisis. Like I said, it's not just it's

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Speaker 8: not just a mental health thing. There's not just one

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Speaker 8: It's looking at each individual veteran and our Operation Deep

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Speaker 8: Dive we've been doing with Duke University. The veteran that's

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Speaker 8: taking their life in New York doesn't look like the

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Speaker 8: as we did in the military, we used to build

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Speaker 8: targeting packets to go after high value targets and stuff.

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Speaker 8: And instead of setting there and throwing out the bait

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Speaker 8: and let us reel them in, we want to see

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Speaker 8: be proactive instead of reactive.

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Speaker 3: What does memorial they mean for you?

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Speaker 2: Given the comrades, the friends that you have lost over

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Speaker 2: the years, what does this day, this weekend, this experience

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Speaker 8: To me, it's more than just this weekend. As I

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Speaker 8: reflect back to know truly what Memorial Day means. I

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Speaker 8: think that all those gold Star families, and how blessed

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Speaker 8: are we that they allowed us to share their sons

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Speaker 8: And just to think that Memorial Day is not just

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Speaker 8: and my heart goes out to each and every one

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Speaker 8: of them. And I sat here and I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: our heroes never die. They're always in our hearts. We

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Speaker 8: and share their story and move forward with them to

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Speaker 2: Clint, we appreciate everything you're doing, Clint Romache. The book

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Speaker 2: is Red Platoon, a true story of American valor. And

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Speaker 2: certainly if you're out there listening and you could use

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Guys appreciate it so much.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of a lot of people out there who are

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