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Speaker 2: obstacles that I've overcome, the challenges that I've had to endure,
Speaker 2: and how you keep on marching forward no matter what
Speaker 2: obstacles lie in front of your face. On this particular day,
Speaker 2: we're gonna start with the whole jay Z thing because
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm pissed off. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty pissed off at a lot of people. I'm pissed
Speaker 2: off as some folks in the public. I'm pissed off
Speaker 2: of some folks in my own damn family. I'm pissed
Speaker 2: off at folks on my staff. I'm pissed off at everybody. Okay,
Speaker 2: because I don't like to be misconstrued. It kind of
Speaker 2: gets on my last damn nerves. So we're gonna get
Speaker 2: started by touching on this subject and attacking it with
Speaker 2: the level of candor and clarity that I like. Okay,
Speaker 2: So there's no mimicking or muttering behind closed doors. All right,
Speaker 2: we're going to get started with the jay Z headlines,
Speaker 2: obviously for all of you who didn't know sleeping.
Speaker 1: Under a rock.
Speaker 2: He was named in a lawsuit earlier this week, alongside
Speaker 2: Showing Diddy Coombs. The suit accuses both men of raping
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old girl more than twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Jay Z came out swinging in his defense, calling out
Speaker 2: the attorney Tony Busby, who reportedly approached jay Z with
Speaker 2: a demand letter before attaching his name in the Diddy suit.
Speaker 2: Jay Z even called on Busby to file a criminal complaint.
Speaker 2: Here's the statement from jay Z in the immediate aftermath
Speaker 2: of the news breaking quote, these allegations are so heinous
Speaker 2: in nature that I employ you to file a criminal complaint,
Speaker 2: not a civil one. Whomever would commit such a crime
Speaker 2: against the minor should be locked away. Would you not
Speaker 2: agree these alleged victims would deserve real justice if that
Speaker 2: were the case.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: In the aftermath of the many have wondered what impact
Speaker 2: the allegations would have on jay Z and his businesses.
Speaker 2: His company, Rock Nation has a partnership deal with the
Speaker 2: National Football League to produce the Super Bowl Half Tom Show.
Speaker 2: Here's what Commissioner Roger Goodell of the NFL had to
Speaker 2: say this.
Speaker 1: Week when asked about the suit. Quote.
Speaker 2: We are aware of the civil allegations and jay Z's
Speaker 2: really strong response to that. We know obviously that litigation
Speaker 2: is happening, but from our standpoint, our relationship is not
Speaker 2: changing with them, including our preparations for the next Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: End quote. One could easily.
Speaker 2: Surmize that saying innocence until proven guilty, but we won't
Speaker 2: even go there. We won't even go there, and any
Speaker 2: interest of full disclosure. When I say family, I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about immediate family. You talk about cousins and aunts
Speaker 2: and people like that. You're talking about people who you
Speaker 2: consider family. You're talking about people that you work with
Speaker 2: every day, colleagues and all of this other stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, I have tremendous people that work for me.
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of myself, and even though I getting
Speaker 2: ass a lot of times when especially when they get
Speaker 2: on my.
Speaker 1: Last damn nerves as they have done today.
Speaker 2: Okay, in the end, I want to preface my comments
Speaker 2: about them and anybody who thinks like them, some of them.
Speaker 2: I want to preface my comments by saying I know
Speaker 2: they're doing it to look out for me, and I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. But I can appreciate you looking out for
Speaker 2: me and still be annoyed as shit at you.
Speaker 1: Because That's where.
Speaker 2: I'm going here, And the reason why I'm going in
Speaker 2: this direction, ladies and gentlemen, is because I want you
Speaker 2: to understand something. When I spoke about jay Z and
Speaker 2: I saw my comments all over social media, and I
Speaker 2: saw it every way. You didn't hear me say I
Speaker 2: had knowledge of the case. You didn't hear me say
Speaker 2: I had knowledge of who Jane Doe is. You didn't
Speaker 2: hear me say that I knew a sentilla of what
Speaker 2: the hell these allegations entail.
Speaker 1: Other than what all of you know, I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: I'm not espousing innocence or guilt from a literal perspective,
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying to you, to all of yours
Speaker 2: in America.
Speaker 1: In the Baya and Abu Dhabi where I just.
Speaker 2: Came from, to Africa, to England and France and everywhere
Speaker 2: in between, what I'm saying to you is this, If
Speaker 2: you're known somebody for twenty five years, do you not
Speaker 2: have the right to say I've known that person for
Speaker 2: twenty five years. I can't see that. I can't see
Speaker 2: that happening. Do you know how I would feel. I
Speaker 2: have somebody that works for me, my man Rashan. I
Speaker 2: got my man Galen that I've known for twenty five years,
Speaker 2: both of them twenty twenty five years. I've got people
Speaker 2: in the industry that are my friends and my kind,
Speaker 2: not just my colleagues and contemporaries.
Speaker 1: My friends, they've known me for decades. Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: gets accused of rape, y'all.
Speaker 2: Got nothing to say nothing. You're just gonna sit there
Speaker 2: and have.
Speaker 1: Nothing to say, Just gonna let me hang out there.
Speaker 2: If you believe in your heart, damn, I've known her
Speaker 2: for twenty five years. I can't imagine him being guilty
Speaker 2: of such a thing.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna say that. Nobody. There's nobody in this world
Speaker 1: that you say that about.
Speaker 2: If that's your answer, I feel sorry for you because
Speaker 2: that means you don't believe in anybody. You don't have
Speaker 2: a heart and a soul enough inside of you to
Speaker 2: imagine that somebody's core.
Speaker 1: Decency is just.
Speaker 2: Too much to think that they would do something like that.
Speaker 2: That is a generic statement that is not impuning the
Speaker 2: alleged accuser, the accuser, that is not impuning even the lawyer.
Speaker 2: We certainly wouldn't impune the courts. We wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: But I would hope that if somebody knows you for
Speaker 2: twenty five years and you consider them a friend, that
Speaker 2: you can say I can't I can't imagine that. I
Speaker 2: can never see them doing something like that. I don't
Speaker 2: believe it. You literally have people scurrying in this industry
Speaker 2: and advising other people. It's not just me, it's a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of other people. Oh, don't say anything. Don't
Speaker 2: say anything. Oh you can't say that. I can't say
Speaker 2: I know nothing. I'm not casting the spurses on anybody.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. The person that I have known
Speaker 2: for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: That I have seen around young ladies.
Speaker 2: Is not a person I could ever imagine doing something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I can't say that because that's all I said.
Speaker 2: Anything else to go any further would be irresponsible, It
Speaker 2: would be stupid, and I don't believe I'm either.
Speaker 1: So when people come.
Speaker 2: And they want you to be so ultra ultra, ultra careful,
Speaker 2: I understand the careful part I understand it, but shouldn't
Speaker 2: you be careful enough to actually listen to my words?
Speaker 2: You see, this is the same platform where I was
Speaker 2: raked through the colds for months.
Speaker 1: Because I was accused of lumping.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and criminality in the black community. When I
Speaker 2: was asked a question about his direct supporters and how
Speaker 2: they felt about his assertions that there was relatability, that
Speaker 2: is the question I was answering. It didn't stop the
Speaker 2: NAACP from opening their mouth. It didn't stop colleagues and
Speaker 2: contemporary from opening their mouth. I had friends that I've
Speaker 2: known for decades that open their mouth.
Speaker 1: And just jumped on the bandwagon along with everybody else
Speaker 1: and forgot who I was.
Speaker 2: How you think I feel about them now? Because all
Speaker 2: you have to do is listen to what I said
Speaker 2: and say, Yo, that's not what he said. Maybe he
Speaker 2: should have said something differently, or maybe he's wrong. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about it. But the casters versus on them. Why
Speaker 2: do you think I get pissed off when I see
Speaker 2: people on podcasts and stuff like that talking.
Speaker 1: Shit all the time. It's never with people that don't
Speaker 1: know me. And if you're an enemy.
Speaker 2: Like a couple of people are, because it's just a
Speaker 2: couple's really just one that makes up a couple. But
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna go there today. Outside of that, I
Speaker 2: don't sweat it. You have a right to your opinion
Speaker 2: whoever you are. Just contextualize it accurately and stick to
Speaker 2: the actual issue, as opposed to using something to branch
Speaker 2: out and castigate people's characters. My sympathy and my empathy
Speaker 2: is extreme when it comes to anybody that has been raped.
Speaker 2: Women are obviously far more often victims of such a
Speaker 2: heinous crime than men. I have friends who are Muslims,
Speaker 2: who are Christians, who are Jewish, who are Catholic. Hell
Speaker 2: I even know a couple of atheists, and the people
Speaker 2: that I know, when it comes to issues of rape,
Speaker 2: they consider that tantamount to murder.
Speaker 1: It to rape a woman is to kill her, to
Speaker 1: kill a part of her. There is nothing outside of
Speaker 1: literally taking her life. That is what you have done
Speaker 1: to her.
Speaker 2: It's just that blood is still circulating through our body
Speaker 2: and she's still able to breathe, but she's dead. It
Speaker 2: should never be condoned, ever in anybody who's guilty of that,
Speaker 2: at the very least should be thrown under the damn jail.
Speaker 1: Fine.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, If somebody is accused and they adamantly
Speaker 2: deny it and you believe their character is incapable of
Speaker 2: such a thing, it's not you okaying such a heinous act,
Speaker 2: it's you saying that act is so heinous. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that person is capable of that based on the
Speaker 2: person that I've.
Speaker 1: Known for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: And if I were ever the found to be wrong,
Speaker 2: I'd be sick to my stomach, as we all should be.
Speaker 1: Simple. Forget jay Z for a second. I've got plenty
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: I got cast I grew up with my man Cardell,
Speaker 2: my man Polly.
Speaker 1: Spank Ski Boris, the cats that I went to school with,
Speaker 1: the cats that I grew up with.
Speaker 2: You come to me and tell me, and remember, I
Speaker 2: grew up in Hollis Queens.
Speaker 1: I grew up around drug dealers and drug users, and yes, murderous,
Speaker 1: there's a few cats that I grew up with. They
Speaker 1: in jail are dead.
Speaker 2: So you don't vouch for everybody in terms of what
Speaker 2: you believe. But what you can say is those who
Speaker 2: you do feel that way about, you can never imagine
Speaker 2: them doing that because you never consider them a friend.
Speaker 2: If you could imagine them doing that.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all. It's all I wanted to say
Speaker 1: about it. Nothing else.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why that's controversial when I know nothing.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I have no idea who to accuse it.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: All I was saying is that I know the guy
Speaker 2: for twenty five years. It's hard for me to imagine
Speaker 2: he could ever be guilt. Not that guy that I've
Speaker 2: been around. I can't imagine it. That's all, nothing more
Speaker 2: than that, nothing more. It's time for me to go
Speaker 2: to a guest because I've said enough. That's the only
Speaker 2: point that I wanted to bring up. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to say anything more than that. Joining me to discuss
Speaker 2: the legal facts of the case is ABC and ESPN
Speaker 2: legal analyst Ryan Smith, who's been on here before talking
Speaker 2: about the B Diddy case. He always edifies us, always
Speaker 2: appreciate his time. What's up, big time? How are you?
Speaker 3: What's going on, Steven A. I'm good.
Speaker 1: How you doing.
Speaker 2: I had to have you on because last time you
Speaker 2: were on, everybody wanted to see that one.
Speaker 1: So I had to have you back on. Let's get
Speaker 1: right to it.
Speaker 2: According to the reports jay Z became inbroad in a
Speaker 2: puffy case after Busby sent the letter back last month
Speaker 2: that alleged jay Z raped and drugg that thirteen year
Speaker 2: old girl with combs at the two thousand VMA after party.
Speaker 2: My question to you with this was this, for those
Speaker 2: that don't know he received the demand letter, whatever, what's
Speaker 2: a demand letter?
Speaker 1: Explain what that is.
Speaker 4: A demand letter is essentially a letter a lawyer is
Speaker 4: going to send to ask somebody to take a certain action. Here,
Speaker 4: the demand letter sent by Tony Busby, the lawyer on
Speaker 4: behalf of the Jane Doe in this case, was Hey,
Speaker 4: let's get together and have a mediation over a claim
Speaker 4: that my client has made that you assaulted her. Now
Speaker 4: it seems once you hear that, you're alarmed, right if
Speaker 4: you get that kind of letter. Tony Busby requested of mediation,
Speaker 4: a private mediation to try to go through this. But
Speaker 4: the reason why jay Z reacts so strongly is it's
Speaker 4: kind of like, wait a second, this isn't a demand
Speaker 4: letter to pay a fine. This is a demand letter
Speaker 4: asking for some sort of legal action, asking for some
Speaker 4: sort of civil civil discourse about a potential sexual assault.
Speaker 3: So for Jay Z.
Speaker 4: This demand letter would have, if he said yes, put
Speaker 4: him in mediation and in his mind, opened him up
Speaker 4: for a discussion about whether or not he owes damages
Speaker 4: for something he says he didn't do. So a demand
Speaker 4: letter is fairly common for lawyers to send to each
Speaker 4: other asking for a certain particular legal action.
Speaker 3: But in this case, because of the.
Speaker 4: Explosive nature of the claims, you can understand why jay
Speaker 4: Z went off on Tony busby Z.
Speaker 1: Jay Z's team labeled this an extortion attempt? How is
Speaker 1: that hyperbole? Is that excessive? Is that on point? How
Speaker 1: would you qualify or classify such a label an extortion attempt?
Speaker 4: By Buddy Steven It depends on your perspective, right, So,
Speaker 4: if you're Tony Busby, you have a client and that
Speaker 4: it's the lawyer for this Jane Doe who's accusing jay
Speaker 4: Z of raping her when she was thirteen at this
Speaker 4: after party. If you're Tony Busby, your client has made
Speaker 4: this claim, you want to try to settle it in
Speaker 4: civil suits. So essentially you're looking for money damages. So
Speaker 4: for you, it's reaching out saying, hey, let's settle this thing.
Speaker 4: You've been named and it's something I've filed, but I've
Speaker 4: kept that private. I want to have a discussion in
Speaker 4: mediation to sort this out. We can sort it out
Speaker 4: that way. The reason why jay Z would see it
Speaker 4: as extortion is you got to start from the perspective
Speaker 4: from jay Z of I didn't do this. So if
Speaker 4: you get a letter like that and you didn't do this,
Speaker 4: why would I do.
Speaker 3: Any sort of legal procedure.
Speaker 4: But when you think about the way jay Z's looking
Speaker 4: at it, it's okay, I haven't been named in something,
Speaker 4: and if I don't do this mediation, what happens then
Speaker 4: I'm named.
Speaker 3: I'm subject to public scrutiny.
Speaker 4: Now everybody believes that I did this thing that I
Speaker 4: said I didn't do, which, as you and I know
Speaker 4: Steve and A, when somebody's name is put out there
Speaker 4: for a crime, a lot of times people believe it
Speaker 4: before they find out the facts. So for jay Z,
Speaker 4: it appears to be an extortion attempt because he's saying, look,
Speaker 4: you're just trying to do this to get me for money.
Speaker 4: If I don't come to mediation, then you're gonna expose me, which,
Speaker 4: in a sense did happen. His name got out there
Speaker 4: and now in order to not do that, I've got
Speaker 4: to pay you money and go through this mediation. So
Speaker 4: from his perspective, it's an extortion attempt because if he
Speaker 4: doesn't cooperate with the mediation, then his name's out there
Speaker 4: unless he pays money in some way.
Speaker 3: That's what that's why they qualify it as extortion.
Speaker 2: His response was swift, no question about that. In a
Speaker 2: strongly worded statement, he categorically denied any any truth to
Speaker 2: these allegations that have been levied against him and said
Speaker 2: he wanted to give Busby one red penny quote unquote,
Speaker 2: and challenged Buzzby to follow a criminal lawsuit rather than
Speaker 2: a civil one. What are we to make of that
Speaker 2: point that jay Z made because it resonated with me, Ryan,
Speaker 2: from the standpoint that he was saying, listen, if this,
Speaker 2: if this is crime, if this is a crime that happened,
Speaker 2: then this is so heinous.
Speaker 1: You know, where's the criminal charges? Bring it on. That's
Speaker 1: basically was what jay Z was saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stephen A, It's like he's saying, hey, look I'm innocent,
Speaker 4: so bring it all at me. If you think it's that,
Speaker 4: if you think I committed a crime, file a criminal charge.
Speaker 3: A couple things there.
Speaker 4: First, Tony Buzzby said in response to that, Hey, I'm
Speaker 4: considering that it's up to my client. I'm going to
Speaker 4: leave that to her. There's a lot of different complications
Speaker 4: in this. The first thing is somebody might be able
Speaker 4: to file a criminal complaint in this case, or let's
Speaker 4: say Tony Buzzby could in some ways, but it's up
Speaker 4: to prosecutors to prosecute that case. So it's not as
Speaker 4: if you just go in and say, hey, I'm going
Speaker 4: to file a criminal charge against you.
Speaker 3: Not how it works. Prosecutor would have to be able
Speaker 3: to take up the case.
Speaker 4: The other thing is, in the case like this, this
Speaker 4: happened all the way back in two thousand, right, so
Speaker 4: this is over twenty years ago, and if a prosecutor
Speaker 4: is looking at a case like this, they're looking at
Speaker 4: what's the evidence, Like who are the witnesses. This is
Speaker 4: one of the reasons why Jay Z is actually requesting
Speaker 4: right now in a filing that the.
Speaker 3: Name be revealed of the Jane Doe here.
Speaker 4: He's trying to figure out, Okay, if you've made this claim,
Speaker 4: let's hear some witnesses. Let's try to see the evidence
Speaker 4: here let's try to let me try to get a sense.
Speaker 3: Of what my case would be here.
Speaker 4: But the real difficult part of this is the statute
Speaker 4: of limitations for first degree rape in New York State.
Speaker 4: If this is a New York State case that right
Speaker 4: now doesn't have a statute of limitations, back then depending
Speaker 4: on the charge, there could be a statute of limitations.
Speaker 4: So it gets a little complicated there. But if this
Speaker 4: is a first degree forcible rate kind of case that
Speaker 4: Tony Buzby seems to be saying it is here at
Speaker 4: least in these filings, charges could be a possibility, But
Speaker 4: filing a criminal complaint is different from prosecutors taking up
Speaker 4: that case and making a criminal charge happened if the
Speaker 4: allegations are true.
Speaker 2: The alleged victim was thirteen at the time, which means
Speaker 2: she's now grown.
Speaker 1: So how likely is it that she will be named.
Speaker 4: It's a tough scenario. They're asking the judge to talk
Speaker 4: about it. We can't know for sure. There's a couple
Speaker 4: different reasons. First, you name a client, you name a
Speaker 4: Jane Doe. In a case of this, the argument is
Speaker 4: generally this, you weigh the public need to have the
Speaker 4: information and the defendants right in some ways to have
Speaker 4: the information with the needs of the particular Jane Doe
Speaker 4: involved in here. What do I mean by that, Well,
Speaker 4: there's another side of this if you look at it
Speaker 4: from the Jane Doe's perspective of is there.
Speaker 3: The possibility for retribution?
Speaker 4: What would happen to that person if their name was revealed?
Speaker 4: That's one thing a judge would weigh on jay z side.
Speaker 4: They're going to weigh the public interest of it, is
Speaker 4: there something that requires this to be out there?
Speaker 3: Does it in some way help the defendant build their case?
Speaker 3: So right now, I look at a case.
Speaker 4: Like this and I say it's an unknown because you
Speaker 4: just don't know how a judge is going to decide
Speaker 4: in this case. And we also, here's the big thing,
Speaker 4: stephen A. We don't know the evidence in the details here.
Speaker 4: What we have right now is a claim from someone
Speaker 4: from over twenty years ago that this happened. Not saying
Speaker 4: it's not true, not saying the allegations aren't to be believed,
Speaker 4: just saying it's hard to know what's happening here until
Speaker 4: you have more evidence and more information out there.
Speaker 2: But he has a right to know who she is
Speaker 2: now they might not be revealed to the public, but
Speaker 2: if he's being accused, he has a right to know
Speaker 2: who he is being accused by. If not now, then
Speaker 2: obviously at some point that is expected to be the case, right.
Speaker 3: And definitely that will happen eventually.
Speaker 4: And you look at a case like this Stephen that
Speaker 4: what becomes really interesting is this is a civil case.
Speaker 4: So I mentioned before that's her money damages. But if
Speaker 4: this goes ahead as a civil case, so right now,
Speaker 4: jay Z is asking that it be thrown out, either
Speaker 4: reveal the name or throw it out.
Speaker 3: If they don't throw it out and.
Speaker 4: It goes forward, so if it's not dismissed, then you
Speaker 4: have things like depositions that happen.
Speaker 3: In those depositions, jay Z is interviewed.
Speaker 4: The accuser, the person who's accusing him of the crime,
Speaker 4: is interviewed, and that's where things get very interesting.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 3: I look at a case like this and I think
Speaker 3: back to what we saw in the p.
Speaker 4: Didy case, the allegations that came out there, and I
Speaker 4: look back to what happened in that case. Allegations, Investigators
Speaker 4: started interviewing people, started talking about different things, and eventually
Speaker 4: reco charges were filed, not saying jay Z.
Speaker 3: Is related to that in any way. But one thing
Speaker 3: I think jay.
Speaker 4: Z has got to be concerned about is if this
Speaker 4: case goes forward those depositions, he's got to answer all
Speaker 4: kinds of questions under oath. If you lie in depositions,
Speaker 4: you face the threat of perjury, which is an offense,
Speaker 4: which is a criminal offense. So in those instances, what
Speaker 4: becomes interesting is what's revealed there. This is one of
Speaker 4: the reasons why he has a criminal lawyer, not because
Speaker 4: we're saying, hey, he did something wrong, but you get
Speaker 4: a criminal lawyer in a civil case like this because
Speaker 4: of what could happen of where an investigation could lead
Speaker 4: you process a civil case, you never know if authorities
Speaker 4: might be looking at that in some way, investigating that
Speaker 4: in some way to see if there's some other charge,
Speaker 4: to see if there's some charge that might need to
Speaker 4: be brought. So that's where this thing gets very complicated. Yes,
Speaker 4: at some point he will learn the identity, But the
Speaker 4: question is once he learns that identity and those depositions happen,
Speaker 4: what happens next?
Speaker 2: Could you illustrate because one of the things that I've
Speaker 2: been making a point of is that you know, Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, and I'm certainly not going
Speaker 2: to pretend to know what happened. I've known him for
Speaker 2: twenty five years, so I've been on the record saying
Speaker 2: I can't believe that the person that I've known for
Speaker 2: twenty five years would be capable of such a thing.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. But that's as far as.
Speaker 2: Anybody, any human being, as far as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: can go. To go any further than that would be
Speaker 2: utterly irresponsible. But what I want to also do is
Speaker 2: highlight the difference right now people are acting like to
Speaker 2: me when you bring up P Diddy. People bring up him,
Speaker 2: and they bring up P Diddy in the same sentence
Speaker 2: five his reasons, and I'm like, well, Homeland Security showed
Speaker 2: up the P Diddy's properties in Miami and Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Ultimately an arrest was forthcoming, which he knew, which is
Speaker 2: why he came to New York. And ultimately he was arrested,
Speaker 2: and he has been incarcerated and denied bill not one,
Speaker 2: not two, but three For Tom's that clearly is not
Speaker 2: the case here. Should jay Z be fearful that it
Speaker 2: could be the case. Is this the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that we're looking at down the line potentially.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked that question, because I want to
Speaker 4: distinguish between what we're seeing right now, stephen A, with
Speaker 4: the jay Z situation, and what we saw in the
Speaker 4: Diddy situation. There As you mentioned, rate on his home
Speaker 4: lengthy investigation, going at even the charges, talking about a
Speaker 4: criminal enterprise, his companies and all that, not only in
Speaker 4: him not only involved in making records, but having this
Speaker 4: criminal enterprise with these free costs.
Speaker 3: I would not connect. I'd be loath right now to
Speaker 3: connect the P.
Speaker 4: Diddy case with jay Z, and for one really big
Speaker 4: reason and then other smaller reasons. The big reason is
Speaker 4: in the Diddy Combs case, they're arguing that he set
Speaker 4: up this entire criminal enterprise, and part of this enterprise
Speaker 4: worth these free costs. That's not being suggested in the
Speaker 4: jay Z case. The jay Z case is suggesting, at
Speaker 4: least the accusation is he was at this party that P.
Speaker 4: Diddy was throwing and that there was a sexual assault
Speaker 4: that occurred, and that jay Z committed it. Completely different circumstances,
Speaker 4: completely different situation.
Speaker 3: Do I know if it could go there and something
Speaker 3: could happen.
Speaker 4: We don't know at this point, As you said, we
Speaker 4: don't know enough information about that right now. But that's
Speaker 4: a big difference the other differences here you talked about
Speaker 4: should he be fearful, I would say there has to
Speaker 4: be concern. And the reason there has to be concerned
Speaker 4: is and we talked about this when we talked about
Speaker 4: the Ditty case. We talked about the idea that there
Speaker 4: were all these people involved. Even in the jan and
Speaker 4: Dos case. With jay Z, she claims that she runs
Speaker 4: out and nobody did anything.
Speaker 3: One of the things.
Speaker 4: US attorneys said when they were doing the Ditty case
Speaker 4: was when they made that big announcement P. Diddy has
Speaker 4: been arrested, they made the point of our investigation is
Speaker 4: on going, they.
Speaker 3: Are not stopping. That was not the end of it.
Speaker 3: So why I think jay Z should be concerned.
Speaker 4: He's saying he didn't do anything, but and on its face,
Speaker 4: let's assume that's the case. Why he should be concerned
Speaker 4: is being involved in the orbit. That is P Diddy
Speaker 4: being involved in the orbit of this situation.
Speaker 3: Being involved in the.
Speaker 4: Orbit of the claims that Jane Do made piques the
Speaker 4: attention of investigators. This is just how investigators think when
Speaker 4: they file a claim. When they see a claim like
Speaker 4: p Didy and as expansive as that was, and they
Speaker 4: think about all the people that might have been involved
Speaker 4: or seen something or been there. They're trained to look
Speaker 4: at this and say who else might have been involved?
Speaker 4: Are there any other cases out there? So when they
Speaker 4: see this, if I'm his lawyer, I'm thinking, Okay, I've
Speaker 4: got to at least make sure he's not tied into
Speaker 4: that in any way, and I've got to at least
Speaker 4: expect investigators to maybe look at, keep an ear, keep
Speaker 4: an eye on, and maybe ask questions about whether there's
Speaker 4: any intersection in this case to that case. See, it's
Speaker 4: an interesting difference there, because it's not to say, oh,
Speaker 4: there's going to be a concern that he'll be involved
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 3: Ditty criminal enterprise.
Speaker 4: It's more concern of investigators follow the trail of whatever
Speaker 4: evidence they find and whatever they hear and whatever they see, and.
Speaker 3: What you have to wonder about and worry about.
Speaker 4: I think be concerned about if you're Jay Z, is
Speaker 4: our investigators eventually going to ask questions in some way
Speaker 4: of me because of this case that's been filed against me.
Speaker 2: As you well know, Rock Nation has a partnership deal
Speaker 2: with the National Football League to produce a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: halftime show, and so naturally, when these allegations got aimed
Speaker 2: at jay Z, a lot of people were waiting to
Speaker 2: hear from the National Football League to see what it
Speaker 2: was going to do, and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell had
Speaker 2: this to say this week when asked about the suit. Quote,
Speaker 2: we are aware of the civil allegations and jay Z's
Speaker 2: really strong response to that. We know obviously that litigation
Speaker 2: is happening, but from our standpoint, our relationship is not
Speaker 2: changing with them, including our preparations for the next Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: End quote Number one.
Speaker 2: From a legal perspective, how common of a position was
Speaker 2: that to receive from an entity like the NFL? And
Speaker 2: number two, what kind of effect, if any at all,
Speaker 2: do you think will have on this ongoing situation?
Speaker 3: So number one, I'll admit stephen A.
Speaker 4: I was surprised to see that only because my sense
Speaker 4: usually when you talk about organizations like the NFL and
Speaker 4: claims against partners who have been accused of really heinous
Speaker 4: situations is basically no comments or we're waiting to see
Speaker 4: what happens with the evidence, That would be the first thought.
Speaker 4: Perhaps there was some sort of discussion that happened after
Speaker 4: these claim surface, and Roda Gudell was made to feel that, hey,
Speaker 4: there's nothing to see here. This is something that's going
Speaker 4: to go away. So maybe that was why they felt
Speaker 4: comfortable making that response saying I'm going to stand by
Speaker 4: a jay Z and keep working with Rock Nation. But
Speaker 4: I got to say I was surprised it just because
Speaker 4: usually we're used to seeing the NFL say, hey, if
Speaker 4: there's anything even a semblance of something that could tarnish.
Speaker 3: Our name and our brand in any way, we're gonna
Speaker 3: at least say let's wait and see what happens here.
Speaker 4: We're gonna at least say no comment, We'll see as
Speaker 4: it comes. We'll we're just following whatever happens. Come me
Speaker 4: your second question.
Speaker 1: Again, I said, how will this affect it?
Speaker 2: How do you think this will the NFL's position with
Speaker 2: jay Z at this particular moment of time affect things
Speaker 2: moving forward, whether it be their relationship with him or
Speaker 2: this overall case.
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting when I look at this, will
Speaker 4: the NFL's relationship with him affect the processing of the case.
Speaker 3: I don't think it will affect what authorities do or
Speaker 3: what a judge might do.
Speaker 4: I think what becomes interesting in all of this is
Speaker 4: how does this case process based on that relationship he
Speaker 4: has with the NFL and based on what jay Z
Speaker 4: does and has. One thing we know about jay Z
Speaker 4: is he has a deep pocket. So and that was
Speaker 4: part of what you brought up here. Hey, just because
Speaker 4: I have money doesn't mean you can come at me
Speaker 4: for something that I'm saying I'm innocent for. But if
Speaker 4: you think about where maybe the Jane Doe's lawyer is
Speaker 4: coming from, if you think about it of hey, you've
Speaker 4: got finances, you did something, I'm coming after you, maybe
Speaker 4: that makes him continue to press the case. Maybe that
Speaker 4: makes him continue to say, hey, I'm not giving up
Speaker 4: on this, not just for money, but more from the
Speaker 4: sense of especially when you talk about Tony Busby, more
Speaker 4: from the sense of this is a person who says, Hey,
Speaker 4: I'm fighting on behalf of the unknowns against the superstars
Speaker 4: who think they can do things and just get away
Speaker 4: with it. I'm the person who's going to bring those
Speaker 4: people to justice. So the more that jay Z has
Speaker 4: people stand by him, Obviously, for him, that's a good
Speaker 4: thing that bolsters his claim of hey, I've done nothing
Speaker 4: wrong in the court of public opinion. But I think
Speaker 4: for Jane Doe and her attorney, the sense is, hey,
Speaker 4: this is a person in our opinion, because we believe
Speaker 4: the allegations are true. There's a person who thinks he
Speaker 4: can do what he wants and won't be held accountable,
Speaker 4: and we're not going to start until there's accountability. I
Speaker 4: tell you this is a complicated case where we got
Speaker 4: to wait for a lot of information to come out.
Speaker 1: It's twenty four years after the fact.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have made noise about that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean anything because we know how often women have been
Speaker 2: victimized and how they've been reluctant to come forward.
Speaker 1: The laws have.
Speaker 2: Changed, society has changed. A heightened level of sensitivity has
Speaker 2: really kicked up as well. Even in these times where
Speaker 2: I think that people are far more understanding and men
Speaker 2: have no choice but to be far more receptive to
Speaker 2: these things that women have been telling us that they
Speaker 2: have been enduring and experiencing for quite a long time.
Speaker 2: What are we to make of it being coming to
Speaker 2: light twenty four years later, these allegations.
Speaker 4: That they mean more to the public and to all
Speaker 4: of us now. And that's not to say they didn't
Speaker 4: mean anything before. That's to say you can even see
Speaker 4: it in the law of stephen A based on how
Speaker 4: this We talked earlier about whether or not a case
Speaker 4: could be brought a criminal complaint. When you talk about
Speaker 4: that years ago there was a statute of limitation.
Speaker 3: For certain degrees of rape. That was only five.
Speaker 4: Years Those laws have been changed significantly now there's much more.
Speaker 3: But that's part of the problem of this case. It
Speaker 3: happened so long ago. Depending on if.
Speaker 4: Prosecutors took up a case, it could affect whether or
Speaker 4: not the statue of the limitations applies. But even in
Speaker 4: the law, is what I'm saying. Even in the law,
Speaker 4: our way of viewing cases like this has changed drastically.
Speaker 4: But in the public, I think is where it really matters.
Speaker 1: Stephen A.
Speaker 4: We look at cases like this and we say, people
Speaker 4: who are in power, who did bad things to others
Speaker 4: have to be held accountable. I want to say it again,
Speaker 4: that is not me saying anything about jay Z. What
Speaker 4: that's saying is when you talk about authorities, there is
Speaker 4: not some sense of hey, this happened twenty four years ago,
Speaker 4: not a lot of evidence, nothing to see here. We're
Speaker 4: just going to move on and prosecute cases from today.
Speaker 4: There is a real sense on behalf of law enforcement
Speaker 4: and authorities and courts and everyone to say, hey, these
Speaker 4: cases don't go away because they're old, if the statute
Speaker 4: of limitation doesn't apply, and they can be hurt. And
Speaker 4: when you talk about investigations, this is what I thought
Speaker 4: was so interesting about the Ditty case, and I think
Speaker 4: resonates throughout the entertainment industry. I think investigators are now
Speaker 4: looking at cases like this, the Ditty Case and beyond
Speaker 4: and saying, when we get a sense of wrongdoing, we
Speaker 4: are not letting that go. We are not just letting
Speaker 4: that pass by and keeping an eye out out for
Speaker 4: it and will there be enough evidence.
Speaker 3: No, we're going to move on.
Speaker 4: This is we are going to doggedly pursue something where
Speaker 4: we have a good faith belief that there is a
Speaker 4: crime and it doesn't matter if it's old, and it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if it might not fit in the particular
Speaker 4: context of what you might think the crime might be
Speaker 4: on its face.
Speaker 3: We're gonna look deeper see if there's some enterprise here.
Speaker 3: See if there's something else going on. Stephen A. I
Speaker 3: can't even tell you haven't been a lawyer for well
Speaker 3: over two decades.
Speaker 4: It is a massive, massive shift in the way we
Speaker 4: look at survivors of sexual assault.
Speaker 1: Massive four.
Speaker 4: I think people thought, Hey, if I don't say something quickly,
Speaker 4: if I don't do something quickly, I don't have a chance.
Speaker 4: And even if I do, my name's going to be
Speaker 4: dragged to the mud. I'm going to be tortured through
Speaker 4: this entire process. Even in then I might not get justice.
Speaker 4: Now we live in a different world. Now these cases
Speaker 4: are being heard. There is a sense on behalf of
Speaker 4: law enforcement, judges others to say, let's hear the evidence,
Speaker 4: let's see what's here, let's try to figure out these cases.
Speaker 4: And in a sense, we are way more as a society,
Speaker 4: both in the courts and in public opinion, to say
Speaker 4: people who make claims are to be believed. Let us
Speaker 4: hear it, let us figure it out, and let us
Speaker 4: hear the full story.
Speaker 2: Ryan Smith, Legal land List, ESPN, ABC. I'm proud to
Speaker 2: call you a colleague and a contemporary. I'm really proud
Speaker 2: of the work that you're doing. I appreciate you edifying
Speaker 2: this show and this audience or every time you come
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 1: Coming up.
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Speaker 2: of the Heisman Trophy presentation this weekend. But is he
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Speaker 2: she's named Time Athlete of the Year. Those stories are
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Speaker 2: It's Tom for Stephen A Sports Picks. Let's be real, y'all.
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Speaker 2: winning picks today. I'll be making picks for the Sunday's
Speaker 2: football games. First up, we've got the Baltimore Ravens quarterback
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson going up against the New York Giants. More
Speaker 2: or less than two one hundred and seventeen and a
Speaker 2: half pass yards. He's going against the New York Giants
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventeen yards passes.
Speaker 1: Does a trick question? That's a trick question.
Speaker 2: The only way he's not gonna throw for more than
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen yards. He decided out to throw the
Speaker 2: ball because he can run on them all day.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. So I'm gonna go with more
Speaker 1: as a particular answer to this question.
Speaker 2: Next up, we've got to Washington command this quarterback Jaden
Speaker 2: Daniels going up against the New Orleans Saints more or
Speaker 2: less two one one hundred and thirteen and a half
Speaker 2: passing yards. It's jad and Daniels. New Orleans is done
Speaker 2: seasons over, not a good team. They'll be looking for
Speaker 2: a new coach after this season. Jayden Daniels in Washington's
Speaker 2: trying to play for a playoff spot. I think more
Speaker 2: is the way to go with this one as well.
Speaker 2: Next up, we have Miami Dolphins quarterback two Tungue Valowa
Speaker 2: going up against the Houston Texans more or less than
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty eight and a half passing yards Houston.
Speaker 2: I still expect them to make some noise, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you something right now, I think
Speaker 2: Tour can put up some numbers in this game as well.
Speaker 2: I really really do. I think that Houston's appears vulnerable.
Speaker 2: I can see this being a high scoring contest. Obviously,
Speaker 2: anytime you got Tyreek Hill on the team or two
Speaker 2: players can get you two hundred you know, three players
Speaker 2: rather than get you two hundred and sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Yards with that, brother, So I'm gonna go with more.
Speaker 2: Finally, we've got New York Giants quarterback Tommy DeVito, not
Speaker 2: Danny DeVito, not him, Tommy DeVito going up against the
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens more or less than one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: eight and a half passing yard duds.
Speaker 1: I have no faith in anything associated with the Giants
Speaker 1: at this point, zero zero.
Speaker 2: I know that Baltimore's defensive suspect, I get that, but
Speaker 2: I have no faith in the New York Giants. Anything
Speaker 2: that is associated with them should be less because their
Speaker 2: value dissipates with each passing week.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on the verge of saying they need new ownership.
Speaker 1: It's just bad. It's just bad.
Speaker 2: There we gonna go with less for Tommy DeVito in
Speaker 2: the New York Giants one hundred and seventy eight and
Speaker 2: a half passing yards. I think that's entirely too much
Speaker 2: when it comes to him. That's just where I'm.
Speaker 1: At with it. Either way you slice it, it's.
Speaker 2: More and more and more and less. That's three out
Speaker 2: of four. That ain't bad. Matter of fact, it's pretty
Speaker 2: damn good. That's what prospects of breenshit. Welcome back to
Speaker 2: Steph Nick Smith Show. Let me get into some sports
Speaker 2: headlines in a moment. All right, that's what I plan
Speaker 2: on doing. But I want to start by addressing my
Speaker 2: brother Kenny Smith over at T and T. Kenny the Jessmit,
Speaker 2: that's my dog, right, Kenny and I'll be going head
Speaker 2: to head supposedly in Las Vegas tomorrow afternoon in a
Speaker 2: free throw shooting contest ahead of the Emirates NBA Cup Semifinals.
Speaker 2: Now we all know Kenny Smith is a two time
Speaker 2: NBA champion and the sharp shooter, so he decided to
Speaker 2: handicap the event and shoot his free throws with his
Speaker 2: left hand. I want you to know, I feel this
Speaker 2: is so disrespectful. This is so disrespectful to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: the man is just disrespecting to me. Okay, but that's
Speaker 2: all right because you see ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's all in fun.
Speaker 2: That's my brother right there, His big brother, Vincus Smith,
Speaker 2: was the one that trained me and helped me get
Speaker 2: a basketball scholarship to Winston Salem State. Kenny Smith's family
Speaker 2: and myself go back a very, very long ways. It's
Speaker 2: my brother from another mother. I love him to death,
Speaker 2: but he was disrespectful. He really really was disrespectful. Now,
Speaker 2: damn it. I ain't no damn NBA player. Hell I
Speaker 2: wasn't even a college player as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 2: because I was too damn injury prone. But the bottom
Speaker 2: line is, ain't no scrub. I can play. I can
Speaker 2: damn sure shoot. And to sit up there and talk
Speaker 2: about he's gonna hurt me left handed, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: he had to come at me like that. That wasn't
Speaker 2: really really, you know, but I see what he's doing here,
Speaker 2: you see, let's get down to the nitty gritty. Shaq
Speaker 2: was reluctant to go against me in the free throw
Speaker 2: contest for obvious reasons. David shoots fifty percent of free
Speaker 2: throws for fifty five percent of free throws for his career.
Speaker 2: We understand that he's not a free throw shooter. All right, Chuck,
Speaker 2: you know that's my man right there. He's been supportive
Speaker 2: of me, so I'm not gonna go at him, even
Speaker 2: though I saw I'm breathing.
Speaker 1: Heavy the other day. It's all right, It's okay, Kenny.
Speaker 2: You know, the TNT crew is the Krem Dela Krem
Speaker 2: did the elite, and I'm honored to be joining them
Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon before we do NBA Count on the ESPN
Speaker 2: Saturday night. I gotta be there with them three thirty
Speaker 2: pm Eastern time, live in Vegas. I'm just wondering why
Speaker 2: the hell is alimited to free throw shooter? Why why
Speaker 2: don't we just have a shooting contest since you want to,
Speaker 2: since you want to.
Speaker 1: Be all big, bad and bold. While we got to
Speaker 1: go to the free throw line we are, why can't
Speaker 1: we go to the wing. Why can't we go to
Speaker 1: the quarters? Why can't we shoot beyond the three point line?
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody scared, Kenny? Anybody scared? You understand I ain't
Speaker 1: got to play against you.
Speaker 2: You adn't say say even over everybody teasy you're about
Speaker 2: tonabs whatever. I don't do that because I know you
Speaker 2: the jet I know you a bad brother. You und
Speaker 2: to see you bust my ass all day, every day
Speaker 2: in a game.
Speaker 1: But just to shoot the ball. I mean, why are
Speaker 1: we living in ourselves to free throw? Free throw? Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody scared? Ain't nobody scared. I'm good, I'm good with it.
Speaker 1: What's up? That's what I want to say. I ain't
Speaker 1: asking Chuck and Shock the same because we know better. Y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all know what Tom. That is all right?
Speaker 2: Ernie Johnson, I ain't messing with you. You the godfather, my brother.
Speaker 2: I love you to death. Ernie will probably slay all
Speaker 2: of us. But Kenny, I see you, I see you Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker 1: I'll be there. I will be there. Now, let me
Speaker 1: move on.
Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the sports headlines, real sports headlines.
Speaker 1: I want to begin with Thursday night football.
Speaker 2: Last night in San Francisco, the Los Angeles Rams came
Speaker 2: into town and essentially ended the Niner season, beating them
Speaker 2: twelve to six. But the biggest headline of the night
Speaker 2: was what we saw from the NINAS linebacker group, specifically
Speaker 2: the Andondre Campbell. Campbell was asked to enter the game
Speaker 2: the two starters, Dre Greenlaw and d Winters were dealing
Speaker 2: with injuries. Campbell refused to enter the game and then
Speaker 2: eventually left the field during the fourth quarter. Head coach
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan said the plan was for Campbell to enter
Speaker 2: the game after Greenlaw went down with knee sotness. As mentioned,
Speaker 2: Campbell refused to play and left the field and the team,
Speaker 2: leaving the locker room fuming afterwards. Here's what nana's quarterback
Speaker 2: on cornerback Tavarius Ward said after the game quote, He's
Speaker 2: a professional, He's been playing for a long time. If
Speaker 2: he didn't want to play, shouldn't have dressed out. He
Speaker 2: could have told them that before the game. I feel
Speaker 2: like that was some sucker shit that he did. It
Speaker 2: definitely hurt the team. D went down and we needed
Speaker 2: a linebacker, So for him to do that, that's some
Speaker 2: sucker stuff to me. In my opinion, He's probably going
Speaker 2: to get cut soon, So it is what it is,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Had that been me, he'd have been
Speaker 2: cut by the time he got out the shower. And
Speaker 2: that's assuming we need to let him in the shower.
Speaker 2: If he had walked off the field, I'd have made
Speaker 2: sure he was no longer a member of the team
Speaker 2: before he left that damn locker room. It's one of
Speaker 2: the most egregious things. If you don't want to play,
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. He could have refused to dress for
Speaker 2: the game. People would have said, Yo, that's business, that's
Speaker 2: what comes with it. We understand you might have been
Speaker 2: a bit salty about it or whatever, but never something
Speaker 2: like this. Understand the magnitude of what Devondre Campbell did.
Speaker 2: He's on the sideline in uniform, dressed to play, and
Speaker 2: not one but two of his teammates go down and
Speaker 2: they go to him, who's a former All Pro by
Speaker 2: the way, and he refused to enter the game and
Speaker 2: then walked off the field. This is in the middle
Speaker 2: of the game, this is in the third quarter. There
Speaker 2: is nothing on the planet that he can say to
Speaker 2: a player to justify doing that. We're not players, and
Speaker 2: we know how fed up that is. That is the
Speaker 2: epitome of leaving a soldier on the field in the
Speaker 2: field of battle.
Speaker 1: That is the epitome of abandoning your teammates.
Speaker 2: That is the epitome of selling out.
Speaker 1: It is unforgivable. His career may be in jeopardy because
Speaker 1: of this, and no one will defend him.
Speaker 2: You see the way George Kittle talked about him, You
Speaker 2: see the way Javarius Ward talked about him. You think
Speaker 2: they'd only two that feel that way. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you something. He's lucky he heard that, because you know
Speaker 2: what's more conspicuous, what's most palpable, what's more riveting than
Speaker 2: their words? You see those words by there by George Kittle.
Speaker 2: I don't like distractions on the sideline. I think that's ignorant,
Speaker 2: and I think it's just dumb. It's just stupid, and
Speaker 2: it's very immature. I just don't see how you could
Speaker 2: do something like that to your team. It's one person
Speaker 2: making a selfish decision. I've never been around anybody that's
Speaker 2: ever done that, and I hope I'm never around anybody
Speaker 2: who does that.
Speaker 1: Again. That's George Kittle, sit all pro tight end.
Speaker 2: Do you understand that what he did, where it's really
Speaker 2: gonna be riveting is with silence.
Speaker 1: See those brothers spoke. Ninety nine percent of the.
Speaker 2: League is gonna look at him and be like, man,
Speaker 2: I don't want that dude, that's my Teammate't got nothing to.
Speaker 1: Say to him.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have the Kyle Shanahan approaching the postseason as
Speaker 2: postgame news conference last night where he said, why are
Speaker 2: we talking about him? He's that's history. In other words,
Speaker 2: he's done. It's over. It's over.
Speaker 1: You can't blame Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 2: I don't care what you can say whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Not before the game is one thing to dress in
Speaker 2: uniform for the game to be ongoing, and then for
Speaker 2: you to quit and walk.
Speaker 1: Into the locker room.
Speaker 2: By refusing to enter the game when called upon in
Speaker 2: the middle of the game, it's unforgivable. It's unforgivable. Maybe
Speaker 2: somebody will forgive.
Speaker 1: Him, but I doubt it. Listen up, y'all, I love football.
Speaker 2: There's nothing like being in the middle of the action
Speaker 2: at a football game, being surrounded by fans explosive cheers
Speaker 2: as the running back carries the ball into the end
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Speaker 2: Let's get to some quick hitters in the headlines that
Speaker 2: I want to start with. Caitlyn Clarker right, the Indiana
Speaker 2: Fever star, was named Tom Magazine's Athlete of the Year
Speaker 2: earlier this week, and she took time to acknowledge that
Speaker 2: race played the role in her success this year. Here's
Speaker 2: a passage from the article in Times magazine quote. I
Speaker 2: want to say I've earned every single thing, but as
Speaker 2: a white person, there is privilege.
Speaker 1: A lot of those players.
Speaker 2: In the league that have been really good have been
Speaker 2: black players. This league has been kind of been built
Speaker 2: on them. The more we can appreciate that highlight that
Speaker 2: talk about that, I think it's very important.
Speaker 1: I have to continue to try to change that.
Speaker 2: The more we can elevate black women, that's going to
Speaker 2: be a beautiful thing end quote. You see why I
Speaker 2: had no problem with her being Times Athlete of the Year.
Speaker 2: You see why I said that she should have been
Speaker 2: on Team USA.
Speaker 1: You see why I.
Speaker 2: Had to go off on the likes of Ryl Swoops
Speaker 2: and others who were clearly distant and dismissed and dismissive
Speaker 2: of her. No matter how much they try to deny it,
Speaker 2: there was resentment towards her.
Speaker 1: And here's why I said it was stupid because when.
Speaker 2: She came into into the w NBA for twenty two
Speaker 2: plus years, they had been flying commercial. They were begging
Speaker 2: for chartered flights. She arrives there and two weeks later
Speaker 2: they got chartered flights. She automatically and instantaneously improved the conditions.
Speaker 1: Attendance is still lagging.
Speaker 2: WNBA is still losing money compared to what you would
Speaker 2: hope it would earn, but clearly things are upward trending trajectory.
Speaker 2: It's improving and she has everything to do with it.
Speaker 2: Attendance for Indiana Fever games Are you kidding me? MWNBA
Speaker 2: draft games on ABC, ESPN television ratings.
Speaker 1: She's directly responsible and people were resenting.
Speaker 2: Her for it, like she was the cause of the
Speaker 2: problems that they had for the lack of recognition. No,
Speaker 2: she just happened to be born white, that's it. Caitlin
Speaker 2: Clark hasn't spoken against anybody. She has an assistant in
Speaker 2: denying anybody else the privileges they deserve. If anything, she's
Speaker 2: tried to provide assistance. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Speaker 2: She's trying to be the rising tide that lifts the boats.
Speaker 2: And it was sisters resentful of her, Be resentful of
Speaker 2: the system, be resentful of the folks, primarily to white
Speaker 2: folks who basically disenfranchised y'all all of these years before
Speaker 2: she came along, who denied you the acclaim and the
Speaker 2: allure and the prophet you richly deserved. But you don't
Speaker 2: take that out on Kaitlyn Clark, not her. She's the
Speaker 2: one that assists you. When black folks was marching during
Speaker 2: the Civil Rights era and fighting every battle they possibly could,
Speaker 2: they weren't dismissive, nor did they assist in denigrating the
Speaker 2: white people who marched with them.
Speaker 1: They saved the vendom for those who wouldn't.
Speaker 2: You don't run away from people who support you, You
Speaker 2: run to them, especially when they're in a better position
Speaker 2: than you to help you. But it still seems like
Speaker 2: people are slow their way to a form of progressive
Speaker 2: thinking that enables them to appreciate the Caitlin Clarks of the.
Speaker 1: World instead of resenting.
Speaker 2: Her, which means, as always, no matter how far we've come,
Speaker 2: we still have a ways to go. Quick hit the
Speaker 2: number two takes us to Tempe, Arizona, where Bronnie James
Speaker 2: played in his first road game for the South Bay
Speaker 2: Lakers and had a career night. The Lakers rookie scored
Speaker 2: a game high thirty points and thirteen of twenty three
Speaker 2: shooting as the South Bay Lakers fell to the Valley Suns,
Speaker 2: one of six one hundred. Bronnie, who was the fifty
Speaker 2: fifth pick in the NBA Draft, is now averaging fourteen points,
Speaker 2: three and a half rebounds, and two point five assistant
Speaker 2: four games in the G League. I'm just happy he
Speaker 2: got action. I'm just happy that he showed up on
Speaker 2: a road game and got reps in the whole lebron James,
Speaker 2: Bronnie James. Things is done now. It's about Bronnie James
Speaker 2: earning his stripes and participating against that lesser competition and
Speaker 2: busting there, you know what, to show that he deserves
Speaker 2: to be in the NBA, Because even though people are
Speaker 2: gonna hate no matter what, the legitimacy of their arguments
Speaker 2: are gonna dissipate drastically once you continue to show out
Speaker 2: like that, once you continue to show that you belong
Speaker 2: like you started showing last night. Congratulations to Brownie James,
Speaker 2: but keep it up. It's a marathon, baby, it ain't
Speaker 2: a sprint. And nobody is in a better position to
Speaker 2: know that than your father, who is on a Mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore basketball. One of the all time greats, Lebron ain't perfect,
Speaker 2: and I'm wanted the first to point out his imperfections
Speaker 2: on a basketball cote, of course, nowhere else. But let
Speaker 2: me tell you something. He's an all time great. He's
Speaker 2: never cheated the game, and that brother works his tail
Speaker 2: of to improve all the time. Emulate Pops to the
Speaker 2: best of your ability, and you'll.
Speaker 1: Be just fine.
Speaker 2: For our last quick hit, I want to give major
Speaker 2: props to Travis Hunter of the Colorado Buffaloes, Hunter, who's
Speaker 2: a favorite to win the Heisman this weekend. Last night,
Speaker 2: at the thirty fourth Annual College Football Award Show on
Speaker 2: ESPN took home four count them four big awards. He
Speaker 2: won the Associated Press Football Player of the Year, receiving
Speaker 2: twenty six to forty three votes Thursday from a panel
Speaker 2: of eightp top twenty five voters. In addition to that,
Speaker 2: he also won a Walter Camp Awards Player of the
Speaker 2: Year along with the Chuck betten Rick Award as a
Speaker 2: top defensive player. And finally, Hunter won the Bolitnikoff Award
Speaker 2: that honor is the best wide.
Speaker 1: Receiver in the country. He clearly should win the Heisman.
Speaker 2: That kid from Boise State, that running back ain't no
Speaker 2: joke though, But I'm Travis Hunter all day, every day,
Speaker 2: no questioning. He deserves the Heisman, and I hope he
Speaker 2: gets it. I'm proud of him. Four point oh GPA,
Speaker 2: special kids, special talent, great head on his shoulders, wishing
Speaker 2: him nothing but the best. He really deserves it. I'm
Speaker 2: really happy for him. But let's not stop there. Close
Speaker 2: the deal. Give that brother the Heisman. He's earned it.
Speaker 2: Coming up, a Bombshall report reveals the FBI had more
Speaker 2: than two dozen confidential informants in the crowd during raid
Speaker 2: on the Capitol on January sixth.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Stephen A. Smith show.
Speaker 2: I want to get into some politics before we get
Speaker 2: on out of here, as we've now enter the final
Speaker 2: month of Joe Biden's presidency, and for the sake of argument,
Speaker 2: it hasn't been a good one. The Democrats lost to
Speaker 2: White House, Senate and House in November into November election. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: this week, FBI Director Christopher Ray announced plans to resign
Speaker 2: at the end of the body administration as President elect
Speaker 2: Donald Trump takes office in January. The news comes amissed
Speaker 2: a bombshell report from the Justice Department that revealed the
Speaker 2: FBI had at least twenty six confidential informants on the
Speaker 2: ground when the capital was stormed on January sixth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one. The report says most of the informants engaged
Speaker 2: in illegal activity during the chaos.
Speaker 1: The Justice Department says only three of.
Speaker 2: Its twenty six informants president had been instructed to observe
Speaker 2: potential domestic terrorist suspects on the day of the riot.
Speaker 2: The rest of the twenty three appeared to have gone
Speaker 2: to the capital on their own accord. Upon hearing news
Speaker 2: of the report, Vice President elect JD. Vance posted the
Speaker 2: following on X quote for those keeping score at home,
Speaker 2: this was labeled a dangerous conspiracy thirty months ago.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: So twenty three folks for the FBI win the crowd,
Speaker 2: and we're just finding that out. Didn't hear anything about
Speaker 2: that for the election. Didn't hear anything about that when
Speaker 2: the quote unquote insurrection was broached by Vice President. Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris is a Democratic nominee by President Biden. Before her,
Speaker 2: by Democrats in both the House and the Senate, as
Speaker 2: they articulated the belief that Donald Trump was a danger
Speaker 2: to democracy and using this as a profound, illuminating bullet point.
Speaker 1: To make that case.
Speaker 2: And now here we are yet again finding even more
Speaker 2: evidence to Donald Trump's claims when he articulated that process
Speaker 2: is rigged the Democrats or this, or that they're talking
Speaker 2: about us, but look at what they do. We don't
Speaker 2: know all the details. It's a report Justice Department comes
Speaker 2: out with this. That's not my big issue. My big
Speaker 2: issue is that I'm really really sick and tired of
Speaker 2: every time I turn around finding something else that the
Speaker 2: Democrats have lied about or downplayed or misrepresented along the way,
Speaker 2: where's the one and a half billion dollars that was
Speaker 2: given to the Democratic Party?
Speaker 1: Where's it? Where the money go? Why was Oprah given
Speaker 1: too and a half million?
Speaker 2: Why was our Shopton's National Action that we're giving that
Speaker 2: much money before interviews? By the way, why I think
Speaker 2: it was five hundred k for the National Action Network.
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I.
Speaker 2: Don't have any problem with the National Action Network taking
Speaker 2: that money because.
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I have more of a problem with Oprah taking two
Speaker 2: and a half million when she's worth over a billion.
Speaker 1: But speaking to.
Speaker 2: Us as if and Soul were so immersed in supporting
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, then why didn't you do it for free?
Speaker 1: I'm just asking.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking these things because I think it's important
Speaker 2: and I think that the.
Speaker 1: Time has arrived where we have to stop.
Speaker 2: Letting stuff go all the time, particularly when it comes
Speaker 2: to the left. I mean, I see Republicans like Megan
Speaker 2: Kelly or Officer Tatum or a Canvas Owens or you know,
Speaker 2: the showing Hannities of the world that you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm getting tired of. I'm getting you know
Speaker 1: what I'm.
Speaker 2: Getting to the Democratic Party, you know what I'm getting really.
Speaker 1: Pissed off about. I'm getting really ticked off.
Speaker 2: And every time they open their mouth about something pertaining
Speaker 2: to y'all, they seem right.
Speaker 1: I would love to argue with Sean Handedy.
Speaker 2: How can I Do you know what Sean Handedy used
Speaker 2: to do to me when I told him Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: had a chance. He'd laugh, like literally genuinely giggle. He'd
Speaker 2: go on TV and put on his straight face to.
Speaker 1: Y'all, I've got to be concerned this selection can go
Speaker 1: either way, he laughed. He wasn't concerned about.
Speaker 2: Her before I called out Biden. He was calling Biden
Speaker 2: sleepy Joe. What's percolating on social media today? Just go
Speaker 2: and look at it, y'all. Joe Biden is caught.
Speaker 1: Napping at an African summit in Angola.
Speaker 2: For at least a full minute. They didn't say whether
Speaker 2: he was snoring or not. That's about all I was missing,
Speaker 2: but he was clearly sleep.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pardon my son.
Speaker 2: I want to say for the record, I have no
Speaker 2: problem with him pardoning, pardoning Hunter Bidy.
Speaker 1: I had a problem with.
Speaker 2: Him trying to act like it was unjust what was
Speaker 2: being done in pursuit of getting after my son. Because
Speaker 2: they wanted to get to me. All you had to
Speaker 2: say was I'm pardoning my son because he's my son.
Speaker 2: You couldn't just say that, though. You know why you
Speaker 2: couldn't say that, President Biden, because you had been telling
Speaker 2: us you it was the last.
Speaker 1: Thing that you were you were you were going to do.
Speaker 2: And why did you say that? Why they karn Jean Pierre.
Speaker 2: Remember as she said, he will absolutely not pardon his son.
Speaker 2: It's all over social media right now. They kept saying that,
Speaker 2: it's everywhere. How many times did the Democrats tell us.
Speaker 2: No one's above the law. No one's above the law.
Speaker 2: No one's above the law.
Speaker 1: Anti Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries, Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: Warren, who makes you feel like your soul is going
Speaker 2: to hell if you don't agree to what her inconsistency
Speaker 2: after inconsistency after inconsistency. We can argue policies, we can
Speaker 2: argue politics all day long. But the Democrats worked really,
Speaker 2: really diligently to make the case that the right had
Speaker 2: a monopoly on insidious, evil tendencies, corrupt tendencies, duplicitous, hypocritical,
Speaker 2: untruthful tendencies. And every time they made those accusations, turn
Speaker 2: around and find out that at least some of them
Speaker 2: are guilty of the same shit. I don't know about y'all,
Speaker 2: but I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of
Speaker 2: all of it. They've actually made Donald Trump look like
Speaker 2: he was right instead of them.
Speaker 1: Think about that. He didn't just get to raise his
Speaker 1: fist on election night as a victor.
Speaker 2: He's been raising it every night ever since for one
Speaker 2: different issue after another that he keeps winning because he
Speaker 2: keeps highlighting what they lied about.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. I have nothing to say, enjoy
Speaker 1: y'all weekend.
Speaker 2: I gotta get to Vegas for the Emirate Cup semi
Speaker 2: finals in the National basket Ball Association, and outside of that,
Speaker 2: I'm just sick of all of this and I'm sick
Speaker 2: of a lot of people, so I'm just gonna shut
Speaker 2: up for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Y'all have a nice night.
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