1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: And Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: is powered by ADU. Say hey, hi everybody, we are back. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: This is another tech takeaway episode. I know we're late. 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: It has been a crazy couple of weeks, so we 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: we've just been a little bit behind. We try to 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: do the takeaway episodes a week after we do our 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: interview episodes. But as some of you might know, I 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: r L has now launched into a production company. Thank you, 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. And Brittany's here by the way, 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: who is our producer on the show, and also some 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: of the projects that we'll be doing moving forward. All 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: of the projects that we will be doing it moving 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: forward pretty much. And so yeah, so we've been working 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: on this ABC special around the fiftieth anniversary of hip 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: hop and and that you know, we've been caught up 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: in that. So that that airs Monday on Monday. It 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: airs Monday on Juneteenth, ten pm on ABC. So hopefully 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: you guys will check that out. Super proud of it, 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: and we just reflect on like where hip hop is 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: as a fifty year old, because you know, it's fifty 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: years old, and as fifty year old humans, you know, 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: you've learned some things you made, some mistakes, You've had growth, 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: And I kind of took the special and framed the 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: conversation that way around how we've grown in hip hop 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: mental health, and how we've grown in hip hop through 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: financial literacy. We're so much smarter now about our business. 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: And anyway, you'll watch it, you'll see I hope you 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: like it. But yes, it's been a busy week, so 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: we were a little bit backed up on our takeaway 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: episode for the money Bag Yo interview, which was so 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: dope and so honest and so raw. And I'll be honest. 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I had interviewed him one time before only and he 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: seemed cool, like we had a natural energy and but 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, he was like in promo mode and it 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: was just kind of chill, fun. I really didn't know 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: what this episode was gonna bring. I knew he had 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: been through some trauma. I knew about the loss of 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: the mother of his kids, but you know, you never 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: really know how much people are willing to open up 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: about it. But I loved the way he showed up. 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: He showed up like all guards down, super vulnerable. Do 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: you feel like he'd maybe been to therapy. No, he 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: hadn't been to therapy. 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he did go to therapy. 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: He was he hated therapy. 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Yes, he wasn't messing with the therapist. 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: That's right. He did say that. We talked about that. 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: He actually said, you'd be hit at therapist. 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I felt like we were having therapy in a weird way. 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Not that I'm a therapist. I am not a legal therapist, 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: but I felt like he needed to get out some 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: of the things that were going on inside of him. 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, that type of trauma is different 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: and real, and I mean he just next level opened up, right, 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: And I think people are just really It's one thing 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: when a woman opens up, it's a. 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Very different thing when a person from South Memphis who 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: grew up with nothing, who's been through a lot a 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: lot of trouble. 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Persona is that of a you know, a tough guy 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: and serious and you know, a serious street dude. To say, yo, 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom and cry because I'm I'm 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: trying to hold it together, but sometimes I can't. And 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to hold it together because I'm trying to 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: be the best version of myself for my kids. As 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: he's raising these kids on his own. Now that his 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: their mother has been murdered. It just I don't know. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: I appreciated it so much. I appreciated his willingness to 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: show up. 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 3: Uh. 71 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: And so some of my takeaways from this episode were 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: number one, the number one takeaway is check on your 73 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: strong friends. You would never know in a million years. 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: And even even he said it, he even said his 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: team didn't really know how how deeply and how you know, 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he had been through had 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: been affecting him because he'd hold he holds a straight face. 78 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: He says, if I cry, what's gonna what's gonna happen 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: to my kids? So he just kind of been you know, 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: sticking out his chest but on that I'm okay face, 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: and then he would have to like remove himself to 82 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: cry or just really has been having a hard time. 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: And so yeah, the reminder to check on your strong 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: friends was definitely a strong takeaway that I left with 85 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: after this episode. 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: A lot of times I act like I'm happy, Like 87 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: I be acting like I'm happy because I understand I'm 88 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: a role model. I got people looking up to me. 89 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: I can't you can't do that. You can't let them 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: see that. And I ain't about looking weak like I said, 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: you were hearman at the end of the day. But 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: it's like I can't. I can't do that. I gotta 93 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: set examples. I got people looking at me, so I 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: got to stay strong. If then I got kids that 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: if they see me crying, what you think they're gonna do? 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So if they see me 97 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: break down, what you think they gonna do? I got 98 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: to stay strong in front of them, even though it 99 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: be super intend, be super hard, do you I'd be 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: having to walk hold up, let me go. I gotta 101 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 3: pee real quick and cry like oh, and then come 102 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: back and we finished the situation, finish the conversation like 103 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: it be dip hard. 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: First of all, the way he's says human, it's like 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I could listen to it all day. That little Memphis 106 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: accent is so great. But yeah, man, it was heavy 107 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: and he's he's so honest and gotta check on our 108 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: strong friends people. 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: I think him also will talk about give some background 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: about what he's been going through. 111 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: For someone who hasn't listened to the episode, Oh, if 112 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: you haven't watched the interview. First of all, the mother 113 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: of his three children was murdered unexpectedly and now he 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: has full custody of the three kids. One of his 115 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: other friends also lost his life. He didn't get into 116 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: the specifics and the details of how. And then another 117 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: friend got caught up in some legal stuff and is incarcerated. 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Also didn't get very specific about the details of that. 119 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: But like losing that many people that close to you, 120 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: on top of being a new full time father to 121 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: the three kids that are now living with you, and 122 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: then your other kids that you have through other relationships, 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: his life it's kind of upside down. So a lot 124 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: of trauma in that, and then on top of that, 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: I just feel like he's at a turning point in 126 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: his life. Yes, number one, because he has to be 127 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a full time father, but you know, he's in this 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: relationship now and he talks about being raised mostly by 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: his mother and his father wasn't home because his father 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: was in the streets. He says his father was a pimp. 131 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 1: You know. His projects called heart of Love hard to Love. 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: How could you not be hard to love when you're 133 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: that guarded, when you're the father example that you have 134 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: the man of the house or out of the house. 135 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: I almost feel like he was hinting that he didn't 136 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: feel like worthy of love in a sense, like when 137 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: he was talking, especially about his relationship with Ari about 138 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: he says, you know, I'm a tough man to deal with, 139 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: not just because of his lifestyle. 140 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I love when a man takes ownership and his shit. Accountability, accountability. 141 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: Oh it's so sexy, you know what I mean, accountability, ownership, 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: just self awareness. Guy, that's all we want as women, 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, we'll ride out 144 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: with you while you're working through your shit if you 145 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: could admit that, I mean, really, just take this advice 146 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: with money bag, yo, because this is what happened with 147 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: him and Ari. He said he messed up. He was 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: honest about it, messed up, cheated. This is what he cheated. 149 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: He said, he cheated. He's trying to get her trust 150 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: back now. But he's like, look, this is who I am, 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: this is where I come from. I'm trying my best. 152 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying here. And he says the Ferrari that she 153 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: was willing to stick it out with him and do 154 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: the work with him and try to get to a 155 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: better place with him, and they seem to be going strong, 156 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: they seem to be doing great. She even FaceTime during 157 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the interview. She did FaceTime during the interview. Is did 158 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: we catch that? 159 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: And we got a little bit we might post some. 160 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should post that. She definitely checked him during 161 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: the interview. But he seems happy, and I think he 162 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: also appreciates her willingness to kind of see him and 163 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: see him flaws and all and still kind of ride 164 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: this thing out with him. Their relationship is really sweet. 165 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: When he when he tells the story about her buying 166 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: him property, he says, nobody has ever bought him anything. 167 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: He's never nobody's ever given him anything. 168 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: He even said that on his birthday when he when 169 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: his dad was trying to make a way back in 170 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: his life, that when money Bag was getting buzz in 171 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: the street, he said that he called it I was 172 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: getting I was getting motion in the streets. That his 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: dad reached out to him on his birthday, was telling 174 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: him gratulations and then also proceeded to ask him for 175 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: a little something on his birthday. 176 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: On his birthday. That's the relationship he has with his father. 177 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is not a man who's used to 178 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: experiencing or receiving gifts. But I wonder what his love 179 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: language is you know, everybody has a love language. I'm 180 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, have you ever read that book? Have you 181 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: read that book? 182 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to say it's definitely physical touch. I 183 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: feel like him is absolutely I feel him and already 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: have a lot of Yes, they got physical attraction down 185 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: to science. 186 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it might be gifts but he didn't even 187 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: know it because he never received any. Because I really 188 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: feel like this gift really meant so much to him, 189 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: even when he's talking about it, it's just I don't know. 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: It was very sweet. Can we play the clip when 191 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: he's breaking down the. 192 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: Gift greatest gift I ever got? Like so far? 193 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: And are you used to that? Like, like how did 194 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: that feel for you? 195 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: I may feel mushy crazy, like you know, you know 196 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, not trying to be just too hard. 197 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: It just made me like I was like damn, like 198 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: and she really do look it made it opened my 199 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: eyes more so, like not saying that I used to 200 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: question love with her, like or did question I love? 201 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: It's just period in general, like going back to the 202 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: hard to love situation, like is this really. 203 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: It so sweet? I'm rooting for them, man, you know, 204 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: it's like it's like against all it's one of those 205 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: against all odd stories. Don't call me toxic just because 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for them. I really have because when I 207 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: see somebody take accountability and I see somebody trying, and 208 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: I see two people trying to work through trauma and 209 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: break generational curses and all those things, and like, you know, 210 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: yea and choose love. Like I don't know, maybe I'm 211 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: a softy, but I'm definitely rooting for them. And I 212 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: love that she's been there through this little period of 213 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: his life that's been really challenging. He says, you know, 214 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: his trauma is her trauma. He says, she's gone through 215 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: this with him. She was dating, you know, a single 216 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: guy with no kids in the house, and you know 217 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: he's a full time dad. Now his life has changed 218 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: changed dramatically, and she has been there through that. So yeah, 219 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for them and his kids. Man, this throughout 220 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: this whole thing, my heart was definitely aching for his 221 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: kids and the trauma that they must still be going with. 222 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: He mentions that his daughter opened up about therapy, which 223 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: to me says something about his parenting skills. When your 224 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: kids can be honest about what they're going through and 225 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: they can talk talk to you that way. You know, 226 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: give yourself a little pat on the back, because kids 227 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: can close up quick, and it's so hard, especially if 228 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: you have teenagers. You know this, It's like so hard 229 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: to get them to open up. So when you have 230 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: a kid that can come to you and say, I'm struggling, daddy, 231 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: you know I want to try therapy, you know he 232 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: must be doing something right. Here's anyway, here's that clip 233 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: of him talking about that. 234 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, like my, uh my daughter, like the oldest one. 235 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: You know, she understands more. She understands more than the 236 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: other ones. So she taking it way harder. Like she 237 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: walked up to me like before I left, like, Dad, 238 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: I just want to talk to him. Talking to her. 239 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: She's like, I don't want to do therapy. I need therapy, 240 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: Like she she a world enough to say that, Like, 241 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, I want to do therapy. I want to 242 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: get I just be so sad and I'm just always 243 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: in the room because she always just in her room. 244 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: Like I have to make her do stuff, you feel me, 245 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: I have to make her just get up and get 246 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: about her day. Come on to mind, let's do this duty. 247 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: You knows it took him in. But now she's she 248 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: she opened and up, she's doing it. 249 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: I hope he gets therapy for them. That's that's losing 250 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: your parent that way at that age. It is something 251 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: those kids are going to carry with them for the 252 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: rest of their lives. So I really do hope for 253 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: their sake that there is therapy being sought after for them. 254 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: I know that he didn't have a good experience with therapy. 255 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: He talks about that. He says he didn't like the therapist. 256 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: He felt like she was just being He said she 257 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: felt like she was being nosy or something like that. 258 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: He says, at the therapist. 259 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was being too nosy, that she just wanted 260 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: to know about him. 261 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: Because he's because he's famous. 262 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: He didn't feel like she was actually help him. 263 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, not every therapist is created equal, and sometimes 264 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: you might catch a bad one, and that doesn't mean 265 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the therapy is not for you. That just means maybe 266 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: that that therapist is not for you. And I do 267 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: highly encourage anyone who's thinking about it to maybe try 268 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: a couple. It's like dating. You gotta date a few 269 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: people till you find somebody you lock in with and 270 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: you can't ever give up. So you gotta just, you know, 271 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: keep trying to find that. I love though that he 272 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: did say he's built some community around some of the 273 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: things he's going through. One of his friends also had 274 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: a similar loss in his life. He talks about finding 275 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: people to talk to because you do have to have 276 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: an outlet, especially somebody like him who's busy putting on 277 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: a strong face all the time. At some point you 278 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: have to release that. So he said he had his brother. 279 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, his brother, his friend. 280 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. So he said he had he had some people 281 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: like that in his life. 282 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: I love how he was just overall so vulnerable. He says, 283 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, he wants to change the narrative of what 284 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: it means. 285 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: To be a gangst YO. Something about that moment sat 286 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: with me so strong, because he said, I don't want 287 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: people to when people see me, they see a monster, 288 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: use the word monster. Imagine walking through the world and 289 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: feeling like the outside world looks at you like a monster. Yikes. 290 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Like what that does to you internally. 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Makes you harder probably, yeah, harder and trusting yeah yeah. 292 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. That part stuck with me too. That stayed with 293 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: me that moment. A lot of it did. I felt 294 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I found him to be so and I'm sure he's 295 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: not like this all the time, because this was a 296 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: this was a very unique experience we had we had 297 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: with him. He even said he didn't he probably talked 298 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: to me more than he talked to some of the 299 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: people in his life about this stuff that was going on. 300 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 301 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: I just you could you could tell that he had 302 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: come far, but he still has a long way to go. Yeah. 303 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: The fact that even the part in the interview where 304 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: he's like, you know, like run to the bathroom, crybaby, crybaby, 305 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: You're like, what what? 306 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: What was that? 307 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: I don't just scuttle over that real quick? 308 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Why would he call himself a cry baby? That's so crazy? 309 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: He was great. I was so grateful that he chose 310 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: us to open up that way to it, and I 311 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: think it, like again, the biggest takeaway for me was 312 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: the check on a strong friends. You really just never 313 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: know what people are going through, and some people act 314 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: like the toughest, strongest, And not just men. We all 315 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: know a woman like this. We all know our friends 316 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: who are single moms or just bosses or you know, 317 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: alpha females or people who just always have to present 318 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: as strong and that's exhausting for anyone, male, female, anyone, 319 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: like at some point something's gonna crack. And I'm so 320 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: grateful that he opened up to us the way that 321 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: he did. And it's really a beautiful conversation. And if 322 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: you haven't checked out the full interview yet, please do. 323 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: It's on the YouTube page Angie Martinez Show Money Bag yeo. 324 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Especially if you don't even know, if you're not that 325 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: familiar with him as an artist maybe some of you guys. 326 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: Still just a really interesting story to tell and how 327 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: he's navigating his trauma and his life and his circumstances. 328 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: And super grateful for it. So again, go to the 329 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: YouTube page. You can check out the full interview there. 330 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: Thank you again for all your comments. We do read 331 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: all the comments. 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