WEBVTT - Introducing: Our Way with Paul Anka & Skip Bronson - Alec Baldwin 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.800 Our Way with yours truly Paul Anka and my buddy 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:12.200 Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, folks, this 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:13.320 is Paul Anka. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.800 And my name is Skip Bronson. We've been friends for 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.160 decades and we've decided to let you in on our 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.239 late night phone calls by starting a new podcast and 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:22.720 welcome to Our Way. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.840 We'd like you to meet some real good friends of us. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:27.920 Your leaders in entertainment and. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.080 Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even a city 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:33.120 president or two. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.040 Join us as we ask the questions they've not been 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.240 asked before, tell it like it is, and even sing 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:40.040 a song or two. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:45.000 This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our way. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:52.479 But movie making is often challenging, and the behind the 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.280 scenes with your friends and colleagues is fun. But movie 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.440 making is not always that much fun. It's worked, you know, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.880 how you try to get you know, whenever coming back. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.280 You got to get this scene right now, like today, 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.640 and the pressure is very real. I always felt I 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.840 got invited to do SNL the first time, and did 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.919 it several times, and then thirty five I said to myself, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.960 this is fun. This is where the work itself is fun. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.440 Hey, Skip, Hey, what's going on. Well, you tell me, man, 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.039 the Masters. I've been in the studio and working on 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.720 the dock and everything. What finally happened there? That was 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.200 an incredible tournament. You know, it's not often not I 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.440 wouldn't say often. It's not always that the number one 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.320 player in the world or even in the field wins 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.040 the tournament. But this time Scottie Scheffler, who is in 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.480 fact the best golfer in the world, ranked number one 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.920 in the world, and he won the Masters. Last year 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.240 John rom won the year before Scottie Scheffler won, so 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.840 this is two out of three years that he's won, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.600 and he's just a spectacular golfer. But I know what 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.800 you're turned on about, and that's you know, hockey playoffs. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.120 Oh man, it's the best. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.839 I mean, I love it, but I can't compete when 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.799 it comes to being a fan. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.480 You know, It's been the most constant thing in my life. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.240 Even after the gun in the business and I got busy, 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.640 I would never miss a hockey game. To me, knowing 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.120 because I skated as a kid that I involved with 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.080 the Senators. Those kids are like ballet dancers with those skates, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.280 and to see where the game is evolved into, you know, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.480 bigger and faster. It's it's its best when it gets 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.840 to the playoffs and it really shows you what those 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.960 kids are capable of doing. But it gets down to 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.400 the goalies. It's a goalie game at that point. If 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.040 you got the bad goalie, you're not going to win. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:53.520 I've been loving it. 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.040 Yeah, I know you were an owner of the Ottawa Senators, 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.160 but I actually don't even know how or why that happened. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:00.720 What was the genesis? 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.160 Well, we wanted a hockey team, and I went to 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.440 Bruce McDonald's a buddy, and you know, he had the 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.440 Kings and he helped me put it together. And the 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.600 group up in Autowa brought me in and I was 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.320 just part of a team of guys that brought it there. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.200 And meanwhile, it hasn't been a great hockey team for 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.200 all these years as well play soccer, but it hasn't 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.520 worked out for the city, you know, except that had 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.560 a better year this year. Yeah, and I've loved it. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.639 I just loved it. And I think New York's got 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.520 a shot. I love the way New York's playing. I 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.920 like like two great goalies, yeah, Igor and Quick. My 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:43.839 kids got Ethan's got uh the Stanley Cup game when 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.800 the Kings and New York played. When we went to 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.440 the locker room, Quick gave Ethan the hockey the goalie 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.920 stick from that wind that night. We've got it up 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:54.480 on the wall. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.000 Oh that's cool. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:56.760 A great goalie. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.800 You know he's older now, Quick, but he's still he's 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:03.640 still got his game going. Speaking of game going, how 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.000 about who's coming on here in a few days. Uh, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.640 Alec Baldwin. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.200 Man, Yeah, I know, Alec Baldwin. This is this is 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.720 the Cup. It's amazing that he's actually going to do 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.039 it with all the distractions that he's got from that 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.839 New Mexico situation. But he says he's going to do it, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.919 and you know when he says he's going to do something, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:22.240 he does. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.719 He's that kind of guy. You know, he's a man's man. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.200 We all know his m O. But that's who he is. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.479 I love the guy anytime, and I don't profess to 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.520 no one, but anytime I've been around him. And the 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.960 last time was you know, we did something on the 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.880 Comedy Channel for that roast, and you know they threw 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.440 it at him. With everything else you had to deal 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.320 with they wanted to sing my way with me. It's 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.479 not easy for singers. Littlone a guy that's an actor 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.200 and what have you. And he stepped up and I 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:56.760 think just about thirty minutes before he little apprehends I 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.920 loved watching my favorite guys. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.880 No, I can't do this. I can't do this. No 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.719 I can't say this. I can't no, no, no, you do 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.200 the whole thing. I'm not going to go on. Calm down. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.000 You gotta just think of who you are. You got 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:10.920 balls of steel. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.440 We know right you're it man, And I meant it 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.320 because he's in the hell of a guy and he 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.200 came right out. I thought Frank was there. He took 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.000 on that character and he was phrasing it. He did 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.240 a great job. So that was a great moment for me. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.800 That's the last time that I saw him. And you're 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.600 bringing up this whole situation he's in now, I gotta say, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.000 very quickly without getting deep, I support the guy. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.360 I think it's bullshit. I really do. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:38.080 It's unfortunate. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.039 It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate for the other dynamics. But I 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.960 hate to see a guy like this go through that. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.599 Who shouldn't be going through it. I just leave it. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:47.640 I'm just gonna leave it like that. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.480 And I don't think we're going to even approach it, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.400 you know, because he's kidding great, great vibe and in. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.480 But what I will mention is that Edie, who worked 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.800 as the photographer at Saturday Night Live for twenty five years, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.280 photographed everybody. She said, if she had to single out 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.960 one person who might have been the absolute favorite that 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.200 she's photographed multiple times, of course, who would be Alec Baldwin. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.640 She's just absolutely crazy about him and his talent. I mean, look, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.640 this guy can do everything, you know, from very serious 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.600 dramatic acting roles Glen Garrett, Glenn Ross, street Cardy and Desire, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.000 you know, to comedy to television series with thirty Rock. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.719 I mean, he's so versatile. I mean he's great. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:37.080 He did Stanley Kowalski street car name Desire. I think 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.560 it was Frank Rich the New York Times when he 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.880 wrote this the first time that he doesn't leave one 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.279 longing from Brando. I think that was his code. That's 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.279 pretty heavy, you know, that's Brando and he earned a 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:51.240 lot of rave reviews. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.719 But he's a great actor. You know, he really is actor. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.840 And he's got including by the way, he has a 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.359 very successful podcast. And I don't know where he finds 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.800 the time this man has. I mean, I have to 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.400 take a pause here. Whenever I whenever say this, seven 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.880 children under the age of eleven, I mean, let me 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.440 say that again. Seven children under the age of eleven. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.080 I mean, you kidding me. You've got six, but they 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.400 weren't all, you know, cramped in like that. But I mean, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.880 seven under the age of eleven is crazy. I'm gonna 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.360 ask him, you know what I want to ask him. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:28.679 I want to ask him if he's done. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.520 I wonder how he did it. I want to ask 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:37.640 him how many times he did it? Bless him? 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.920 All Right, I'm gonna run. I gotta get ready for this, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.760 so I'm gonna take off. 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:42.600 You have fun. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.240 I'll talk to you before we go to bed. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.760 Please, Well, what time you go to bed tonight? 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:49.200 Ten thirty? 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.680 You don't want to call me too, I know you'll 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.880 call me at two and say good night. I'm most 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.320 calling you at ten thirty. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:57.800 Good night. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.680 Don't you have it any empathy for your dear friend? 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.720 I sitting up and trying to make people happy and writing. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.840 I'm going to get that AI device to call you a. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.360 Yeah, great, give me a name. It's still cute. Like 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.720 I set my clock tenth theory, I gotta wake them 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.720 up and think good night. All right, Skip, I look 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.200 forward to it. I think we'll have a good time 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:17.680 with Alec. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:19.480 Yeah, it'll be great. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.440 All right, Skip, We're gonna talk talk to you later. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.920 Byey bye. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.320 There's an Alex. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:41.800 I see hair. I see hair over there. You can't 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.320 compare the hair Alex. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.200 The top of we see the top of his head. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:52.679 Aleck, I care. I love that here. Hey, Alec, how 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:53.360 are you doing there? 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:53.679 You go? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:54.440 Hey? 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.040 You ready to do my way again? 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.760 Actually, when I saw myself recorded doing my were with you, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.400 I'd never been more humiliated in my life. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:04.320 You pulled it off. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.199 Man, I'm never singing my way with a legendary vocalist 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.200 ever again. That was the one. It was a one 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.640 time deal, only one time. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.679 Well, it was a big one time for me because 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:14.840 I've done it with Sinatra. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:15.840 I'm very grateful to you. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.440 No, no, I did it with Sinatra and then there 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.440 we were thrown into that. But you know, you had 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.080 a little hesitation, like what thirty minutes before we were 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.040 going to do it, and then you showed the alec balls. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.480 You just went right into the role. You came in 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.760 and I couldn't fuck the mooove. I thought Frank was 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:33.320 next to me. 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.240 He had it was like therapy. This is like therapy. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.880 Where does he bring the energy from to sound like that? 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.800 You were great, but you know something funny, but you'll appreciate. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.440 I always tell people if I teach acting, or I 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.680 go in and kind of guest to teach. I haven't 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.760 really talked that much lately, but if I went in there, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.520 I always tell them learn to sing the best of 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.400 your ability. I said, you will cut off so many 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.280 wonderful experiences in this business if you don't allow yourself 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.000 to at least try. You know what I mean? Yeah, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.040 I agree, don't try to learn how to sing to 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.120 do musicals? And said, well that's all, that's where the 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:05.520 fun is. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.360 So that was a stretch for you. I mean, you've 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.679 gone from hey, you're one of our great actors and 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.120 then the comedy with SNL and Rock. Was that really 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.800 a stretch for you to sing that the thing for 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:16.199 a minute. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.320 Well, I think because I have a very raspy voice. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.600 I remember one time I was at a fundraiser and 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.840 the guy who wrote nine Maury Yeston, was there. And 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.800 Maury Yeston was there, Nathan Lane and my Matthew Broderick 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.000 and all these people who sing on Broadway. And Maury 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.680 Yeston said to me, do you sing? I said, no, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.120 I don't sing. I can't sing. He says, nonsense, mister Ball, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.600 of course you can sing. And I said, really, why 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.000 do you say that. He goes, he said, I'm going 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.080 to teach you the same thing I talked Dustin Hoffman. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.520 He said, I want you to sing the Star Spangled 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:51.280 Banner in the style of Jimmy Duranta, and I said, oh. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.400 And then he says, I want you to sing God 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.920 Bless America in the style of Louis Armstrong, which are 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.439 very similar. He goes, and I'm singing. He goes, You're 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.480 on key. He said, you can sing when you're pretending 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.680 to be somebody else. That's right, he said, if you 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.640 he said, if you can find your own voice, he says, 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.040 you can sing you're on key. But my voice is 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:13.720 so shredded I can't sing anyway. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.360 You know, most singers, most singers aren't great singers al 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.480 you know, even Ray Charles is one of my favorite. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.719 If you get down to quality of voice, they've all 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.959 got that raspy vibe going, you know most of them, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.320 and most of them are just like singing from the heart, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:29.680 but they're not great singers. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:30.400 They smoke. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:31.160 They all smoke. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:31.679 Listen. 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.920 When I started with the rat Pack in the early sixties, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.000 I'm this kid just saying, who do I give the 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:38.920 money back to? You know, it was those guys. It 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.520 was chicks. It was like, I'm living this life out 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.760 of Canada and they're all sitting around starting in the 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.360 afternoon and they're smoking, and they're drinking, and they're trying 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.200 to get me to join the club, and I with 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.720 I got to preserve the business. They all fucking smoked. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.960 It was unbelievable and it was It was kind of 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.079 the Unfortunately what happened to Sammy was all smoking. The 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.600 Frank you know, he was, and Dean was the one 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.400 guy that fooled everybody. He didn't drink a lot, he 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.319 didn't smoke a lot. But Sammy and Frank, they were 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.320 they were the smokers. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.679 Yeah, but but Dean always had a button his hand 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.080 and the glass in the other hand, so you always 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:15.320 talk differently. You know what I mean? 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.280 Oh, we had the apple juice in the other hand, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:17.840 is that right? 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:18.079 Yeah? 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.280 I sit off stage and he was the one that 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.280 fooled everybody. He wasn't a big smoker. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.400 Alec, I've met you before. My wife is none other 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:30.200 than Edie Baskin loves you. She is so crazy about you. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.800 Yeah, she was a doll. I miss her. She was 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.560 really really those are the old days and when she 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.640 was there, my god, Ei was just a doll. She 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:39.160 was a doll. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.400 Thanks, she said, shed make sure you tell Alec he's 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.080 my favorite member of the five timers club, I said, 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.160 except in his case, I think it's seventeen times. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.400 Your host it right, Yeah, I'm something more than five. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:51.720 I know that it's more than five. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.920 We broke the record, right because he broke didn't he 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.080 break Steve Martin's record? 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.440 I think I have one more than Steve. But you 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:58.480 know who's county? 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.800 Who's I got to get this out of the way early, though. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.400 Your impression of Trump is so iconic, so famous on 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.959 the show, and I was talking to Edie about this, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.280 and Edie was wondering, how did it feel to be 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:17.120 impersonating somebody who despise that much to just go through 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:17.840 that process. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.680 Well, it's funny you say that, because I've come full 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.240 circle where I don't have those feelings. I'm not a 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.160 Trump supporter, but I don't feel I mean, I feel 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.280 like people now who are Democrats or Biden's supporters of 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.559 What's what they needed to start doing now is stop 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.319 talking about Trump and start selling Biden. Get off that pinata. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.480 It's like a tired thing. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:36.719 Now. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.440 I did that for four years, but now my attitude 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.040 is like, let's I mean a little but that is fun, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.360 but you gotta they got to move on and start 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.160 articulating why they want. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.000 But to vote for not vote against someone else. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.199 Well, yeah, I mean, we all know people who don't 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.640 trust Trump or don't prefer Trump. We get it, we 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:56.400 know how you feel. 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.960 Now what bothers me with it all today is happy 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.080 I'm eighty two years old and I can sit in 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.839 the grandstand and look at it. It's just become so tribals. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.360 That's the problem for me. It's just become so tribal 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.160 and there's nobody talking and relating. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.160 It's not helping, that's for sure. It isn't helping. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.320 Not helping at all Man, I think we're in for 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.440 a few rough years, but we still got the greatest 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.720 country in the world, so we'll pull it together. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.840 So Paul, I want to know I always ask people. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:23.920 I'm going to turn the tables on you, guys and 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.520 ask you a question, which is I always ask people 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.520 in your world, like who's somebody you're standing next to 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.760 in a studio or I'm assuming in a studio and 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.320 you're recording music with somebody and you just were dying 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.960 you thought this is like a dream come true, somebody 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.720 you loved that much. Obviously Frank is one. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.920 Yeah, well, you know, I did a duet's album with 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.680 a lot of good people. I think Willie Nelson right 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.600 loved with Willy Ray Charles. I love Ray Charles. I'm 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.040 a huge Ray Charles man. And then I got a 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.280 big kick out of work with Michael Bubley, who I 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.720 kind of found and worked with and watches whole career grow. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.440 And then there I was watching this guy come into fruition, 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.600 love him and Michael. That was a big proud moment 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.000 for me. The one I haven't been in the studio 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.320 with who I'd like to be it would be sting. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:14.040 Ah. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.960 I've been around Elton a lot, but I haven't been 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.800 in a studio with him. But I think Elton is 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.480 the real deal. It's the real deal. Like hey, like 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.480 you're the real deal. You're the real deal. What was 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.000 comedy one of your ambitions when you got into acting, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.240 because you do so much comedy and a lot of 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.040 guys can't do it, you know, it's tough to switch over. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.200 Was that part of the menu for you when you started. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.440 I think that it's about relaxing, really, because in the 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.120 beginning you're not quite sure where you're going to go 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.680 because that's not up to you. And then as you 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.640 start to make films that are more dramas and thrillers 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.960 and things like that and Hunt for Red October these 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.440 kind of you know, war technology films and so forth, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:56.960 that's exciting. But movie making is often challenging. And that 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.680 behind the scenes with your friends and colleague is fun. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.960 But movie making is not always that much fun. It's 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.000 work and you try to get you know, whenever coming back, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.440 you got to get this scene right now, like today, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.760 and the pressure is very real. I always felt now 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.240 when I smoked. It was when I was doing film 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.160 after film after film in a row and I was 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.320 just nervous. So all the time I was like Jesus, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.240 this is hard to really get it right. And when 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.200 I went into that world, I got invited to do 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.480 SNL the first time and did it several times, and 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.160 then thirty Rocks. I said to myself, this is fun. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.040 This is where the work itself is fun. And I 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.280 enjoyed that. I really couldn't get enough of going there. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.160 And there were things they had me do on that 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.920 show that no one else would ever invite me to do. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:40.720 So I loved it. 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.880 And you know what it was when I started, it's 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.520 so young, and then put a few years under me, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.000 I found the motivating factor. I wanted to know what 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.440 you thought about it for me in a lot of cases, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.680 because it's it's a bullshit business. At the end of 0:16:53.720 --> 0:17:00.400 the day, revenge. Revenge motivated me through so much. How 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:01.400 do you feel about that? 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.359 Well, I think that might be the word. I don't know, 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:05.919 but I know for me, it was about having to 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.560 prove yourself no matter what I did, no matter what 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.600 successes I had or didn't didn't have, I never sat 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.639 back and I was satisfied. I thought, I wake up 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.600 the next day I got to prove myself all over again. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.040 You know, there's an echelon you can get to where 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:22.960 you're like Cruise and Hanks and these big people Leo, 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.600 where you're every time you step up to bat you're 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.159 gonna get a double at least, you know what I mean, 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.199 You're gonna make money for them. Cruise once said to 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.520 me the most amazing thing. He said, so why do 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.720 you work so hard. You're the hardest working person I've 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:37.880 ever met in my life. And he said, I got 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.119 to give them both their money's worth. I said, what 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.560 do you mean? He said, the studio that's paying me 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.879 and the ticket buyers that are buying tickets to my movies. 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.800 Because I got even both, it goes that's my job. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.679 And I remember, you know, I'm not in that world 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.000 of monumental success in films and especially making money, you know, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.720 making a lot of money for the studios, which is 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.080 all they care about now more than ever. But I 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.520 remember just saying to myself, I go back to zero 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.320 every movie I start, I'm back to zero. I got 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:07.320 to prove myself again. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.879 But as that change, though, you look at the film 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.120 business today, it's not a business like it was years ago, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.480 and it's so changed today where there's not a lot 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.440 of money being made outther than just certain films. I notice, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.240 you know, it's all about now getting an oscar to 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.119 really drive the film home. There seems to be a 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.280 whole change of dynamic in the film business. How are 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:28.040 you sensing that? 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:28.239 Well? 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.240