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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's dej envy Jess hilarious, charlamage

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Speaker 2: to God. We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Rossi is

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Speaker 2: feeling in for Jess. And we got some special guests

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Speaker 2: joining us this morning. We have Tamika d. Mallory welcome back.

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Speaker 2: What's good family, and Angelo Pento welcome, Thank you for

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Speaker 2: having us.

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Speaker 3: Now, how you guys feeling How y'all feeling good?

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Speaker 4: You know, ready for the fight.

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Speaker 1: Every day we're feeling good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're in a poor and political moment, trying

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Speaker 5: to keep our eyes focused on election and just you know,

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Speaker 5: be present for our folks.

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Speaker 6: I saw you at the DNC last week. To Meeka

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Speaker 6: as an activist, what did you see at the DNC

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Speaker 6: that you liked? What you see that you didn't like?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I thought the DNC was important.

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Speaker 7: I've been doing this for a long time, as you know,

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Speaker 7: so I have been to a number of conventions and

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Speaker 7: I get the importance of bringing the base together, and

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Speaker 7: that was certainly the case. I think Chicago also did

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Speaker 7: a really good job of moving people around, by the way,

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Speaker 7: and so I thought that was good. It was an

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Speaker 7: opportunity to see a lot of political operatives and have

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Speaker 7: an opportunity to talk to them directly about issues. And

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Speaker 7: you know, people walking the halls, they didn't have a

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Speaker 7: million security folks around them stopping them from talking to

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Speaker 7: the people.

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Speaker 4: So I thought that was good.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: Obviously Michelle Obama was the highlight.

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Speaker 7: I think they gave her enough time and space, it seemed,

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Speaker 7: because it's no way that she articulated her speech the

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Speaker 7: way that she did without it being her, Like it

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Speaker 7: had to be her words, she had to be involved in.

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Speaker 7: Nobody wrote that and gave it to her, and so

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Speaker 7: she really did her thing. I thought that, you know,

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Speaker 7: the president, the former president, Barack Obama, should have had

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Speaker 7: her speak after him hit it over, for.

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Speaker 4: You know, she was incredible.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's I went back and I listened to

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Speaker 7: his speech as well, because I think being in the

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Speaker 7: space with all the people screaming and everything that was

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Speaker 7: happening from Michelle's speech, that I didn't hear him well enough.

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Speaker 7: So I went back to really listen to what he said.

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Speaker 7: And they was both out there like there was they

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Speaker 7: were firing.

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Speaker 8: He still sounded like a politician, or he still sounds.

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Speaker 2: Like he is.

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Speaker 8: She didn't sound like that.

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Speaker 7: She has made it very clear that she's not running

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Speaker 7: for anything period. So he is a politician and he's

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Speaker 7: gonna be you know, more safe or whatever. But if

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Speaker 7: you listen to what he said and really just kind

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Speaker 7: of unpack some of his statements, you can tell that

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Speaker 7: one they just tired. So they're just at the point

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Speaker 7: now where it's like, we don't need nothing for you.

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Speaker 7: We don't need a job, right, we don't need money,

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Speaker 7: we don't need anything. So we're just saying how we feel.

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Speaker 7: So I thought it was it was good for that.

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Speaker 7: There were other speeches. I thought AOC was great. I thought,

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Speaker 7: you know, obviously Jasmine Crockett, she always I love the

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Speaker 7: way that sister is just real, she's just herself. I

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Speaker 7: thought that Rafael Warnock, you know, speaking on the children

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Speaker 7: of Gaza was important. So there were, you know, a

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Speaker 7: number of important highlights. But of course, what's what I

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Speaker 7: didn't like is I don't I don't feel like enough

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Speaker 7: but I didn't feel enough folks were talking about police accountability.

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Speaker 7: I thought Sonya Massey's name should have come up many

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Speaker 7: times because you know, this is a sister that just recently,

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Speaker 7: you know, was was shot by that officer in her face,

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Speaker 7: and so I thought that someone should have more people

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: I noticed that they brought out the officer with the

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Like military kind of you know, even the Vice president

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Speaker 7: saying that we're gonna make sure we have like the

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Speaker 7: lethal military. That type of language is triggering, particularly to

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Speaker 7: you know, our communities because we're already dealing with militarized

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Speaker 7: policing and and we're looking to find ways to reduce

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Speaker 7: it versus you know more. But I do also understand

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Speaker 7: that she has to be very clear that she's able

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Speaker 3: The world is.

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Speaker 6: Volatile right now, so you got to put all the

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Speaker 6: other countries on alert. The Russia is the Chinese North Koreas.

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Speaker 7: About the builds, it's bigger, you know, it's it's a

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Speaker 7: macro and a micro. But I still think that a

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Speaker 7: living under this military or militarized government. I think that

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Speaker 7: you know, if we could fix that, we might be

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Speaker 7: able to deal with some of the external stuff that's

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Speaker 7: happening around us. So it's a big political discussion that

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Speaker 7: you know, hopefully we will continue to have.

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Speaker 4: Well we will because you know we're going to push

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Speaker 4: the issues and so.

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Speaker 3: You know, but let me ask now.

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Speaker 2: So you know, this conversation has been a conversation we've

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Speaker 2: been having for a while now, and it's it's recently

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Speaker 3: Last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Especially applies that people feel like they shouldn't question the

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Speaker 2: vice president, right, what are your thoughts on that? You know,

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Speaker 2: I think we all feel up here that you question

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Speaker 2: any politicians, doesn't matter they black, white, green, and yellow.

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Speaker 2: If you have a problem or you want to know

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Speaker 3: With questioning them.

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, shout out to my other plies.

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Speaker 7: I love him and like this brother over here. I

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Speaker 7: debate with both of them back and forth as his

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Speaker 7: shoes all the time.

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Speaker 4: That's what we do. Charlamagne is the only boss I.

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Speaker 7: Ever had that I could go, I could debate with

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Speaker 7: all the time. Right about I just hit him up.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't agree, you know, I think I

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Speaker 7: see both points on one hand, what I believe, and

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to speak for Plies, but I do

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Speaker 7: see him online as some of the traction and traffic

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Speaker 7: that he gets, And what I think he is leaning

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Speaker 7: into is the idea that people are questioning her for

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Speaker 7: the wrong reasons. It's the intention behind the way in

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Speaker 7: which they're pressing the vice president, and they did the

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Speaker 7: same thing to Barack Obama and then trying to you know,

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Speaker 7: of course they're not black enough, they're you know, they

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Speaker 7: they're not qualified and all of that. So I think

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Speaker 7: that that's part of the statement that he made. But

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Speaker 7: at the same time, I come from the idea that

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Speaker 7: we can never ever stop putting pressure on elected officials.

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Speaker 7: We have to be questioning them at all points, but

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Speaker 7: we also have to be very genuine about what we're questioning,

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Speaker 7: why we're questioning it, and is it leading to an

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Speaker 7: to discredit someone.

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Speaker 4: Who's in a position of leadership.

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Speaker 7: So I see both sides of it, and I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, I think either way you go.

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Speaker 4: And I understand.

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Speaker 7: The point is that at this moment, she is talking

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Speaker 7: about policy, right. I hate to hear people say that

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Speaker 7: the vice president is not speaking on policy because when

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Speaker 7: you're listening to her, I heard her talk about priorities,

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Speaker 7: and priorities are supposed to equal policy, right, it doesn't

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Speaker 7: always happen that way. That's why the people have to

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Speaker 7: continue to put pressure on these folks, because you can't

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Speaker 7: let them talk about one thing and not do anything

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Speaker 7: about it. But I've heard her talk about a number

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Speaker 7: of issues that, in my I think you would say

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Speaker 7: the same, that these things are priorities of hers.

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Speaker 6: Building the middle class, that's opportunity. I everybody on the

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Speaker 6: home owned a business.

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Speaker 7: Talking about economic issues, talking about women's rights to choose,

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Speaker 7: talking about things happening overseas, talking about Israel, Palestine. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we hear those things coming from her. Now, over time,

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Speaker 7: she's going to have to break it down and there's

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Speaker 7: going to be interviews and debates.

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Speaker 4: And all of that.

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Speaker 7: But I also went back and listened to other speeches

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Speaker 7: because I was like, let me see if I'm missing

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Speaker 7: that these other presidential candidates have just been talking about

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Speaker 7: all this policy stuff on the acceptance night of the nomination,

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Speaker 7: and it hasn't been there.

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Speaker 4: That's not what they do.

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Speaker 5: I think the other piece too, that applies and Angelo Pento,

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Speaker 5: Yes are talking about is this idea that if you're

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Speaker 5: going to question her, question everybody keep.

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Speaker 4: The same energy Exactly.

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Speaker 8: I feel.

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Speaker 1: The energy. I don't know about trusty from black folk.

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Speaker 8: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Most Black people I know aren't supporting Trump. We're supporting

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Speaker 6: the Democrats. So we pressure the party that we support.

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Speaker 6: And that's been going on since twenty sixteen. Is at

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Speaker 6: least I see that we made these people step up

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Speaker 6: and have to come with black agendas which they never

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Speaker 1: I think it's a two way street.

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Speaker 5: I think because it's a black presidential candidate, she's going

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Speaker 5: to have a particular kind of scrutiny that they should have.

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Speaker 5: But I think they're scrutiny that comes to her just

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Speaker 1: And I think what some folks are saying.

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Speaker 5: Be honorable in your questioning right and don't let your

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Speaker 5: questioning come from a place of gender or race based bias,

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Speaker 5: not going to get that. And I think that's what

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Speaker 5: some folks are saying. And I think that's why Michelle

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Speaker 5: Obama was important. She's saying, her and her husband have

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Speaker 5: been here before. They've seen not just the political components

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Speaker 5: the hate components that she's going to have to endure

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Speaker 5: that make her political trajectory harder and more difficult. But

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Speaker 5: also the American publics perspective is going to be skewed

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Speaker 5: because of race. This isn't simply looking at a political

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Speaker 5: is a black woman, and what does that mean for us?

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Speaker 1: And should we trust a black woman? Can a black

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Speaker 1: woman lead?

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Speaker 5: And I think that's some of the questioning that we're

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Speaker 5: seeing that we're saying, we don't.

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Speaker 1: Know if you should ask those questions.

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Speaker 2: But with Joe Biden, we asked questions that people were

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Speaker 2: upset that we asked. I get it, like asked about

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Speaker 2: early signs of dementia. Well you shouldn't be asking that. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm like it shows that he's he doesn't look.

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Speaker 3: As as well he did three years.

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Speaker 1: Ask the questions too.

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Speaker 7: Because I think the intention behind it, and you can tell,

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Speaker 7: I mean, come on, like we listen to people, and

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Speaker 7: we know that part of the questioning is really for

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Speaker 7: them to say, we don't like you, Kamla Harris, period.

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Speaker 7: So nothing that you do will we ever be okay

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Speaker 7: with because we don't like you. There are people, both black, white,

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Speaker 7: all kinds of folks who don't want women to be

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Speaker 7: in positions of power. They don't want a women president,

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Speaker 7: a female president, and that's it. So again again, I

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Speaker 5: It's the type of black men too, because I think

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Speaker 4: That's why he held those checks.

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Speaker 7: we have to find a better way to get the

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Speaker 7: information out about what is happening.

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Speaker 4: But I would say that trust and believe.

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Speaker 7: As I left the house this morning, they were on

448
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Speaker 7: CNN talking about the vice president sitting down for interviews.

449
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Speaker 7: This is something that she's going to have to do,

450
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Speaker 7: which I'm sure they're working on, and she's gonna have

451
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Speaker 7: to break down because they are gonna question her like

452
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Speaker 7: they have never questioned a presidential candidate before in life,

453
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Speaker 7: and she's gonna have to answer the question.

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Speaker 6: It's not just because you know, she's a woman. It's

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Speaker 6: really because the way she got the nomination. That's the

456
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Speaker 6: thing that's very unprecedented that people are not factoring in

457
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Speaker 6: like seventy days to an election.

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Speaker 8: She became the candidate with one hundred days.

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Speaker 7: Well, I saw someone write a loved one wrote a

460
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Speaker 7: post saying we didn't get it to vote because of

461
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Speaker 7: course there was no primary, and they said, you know,

462
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Speaker 7: this is unfair. They disappointed her and there was no process,

463
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Speaker 7: And I'm like, a lot of it is misinformation, right,

464
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Speaker 7: or just lack of information, because there is a process,

465
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Speaker 7: and the process is that if you're running for president

466
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Speaker 7: right now and you decide you're too sick, too old

467
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Speaker 7: to or just don't want to do it anymore, and

468
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Speaker 7: you decide to step away, there are what you call delegates,

469
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Speaker 7: And this is why we have to vote in every

470
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Speaker 7: election because when you turn that ballot over, there's a

471
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Speaker 7: bunch of stuff on there that is not just the

472
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Speaker 7: president or your congressional members or whatever. They have things

473
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Speaker 7: on the ballot that apply to your everyday life. We

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Speaker 7: vote to send delegates to the convention to represent us,

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Speaker 7: and the delegates had the people also DJMB, anybody in

476
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Speaker 7: here could have said in this process, I want to be,

477
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Speaker 7: I want to be, I want to go. I have

478
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Speaker 7: my delegate count I got enough to get on the

479
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Speaker 7: nomination list, right, and then they would have had to

480
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Speaker 7: vote on those individuals. The delegates didn't do so they

481
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Speaker 7: decided to support Kamala Harris, of course, because President Biden

482
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Speaker 7: had already endorsed her and so many people got behind

483
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Speaker 7: to I get it.

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Speaker 4: Now you can say I don't like that process.

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Speaker 7: I don't like the way, and just like we don't

486
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Speaker 7: like the fact that this two party process is the

487
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Speaker 7: only way that we can vote and decide on democracy

488
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Speaker 7: or not.

489
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Speaker 4: Like we don't like that.

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Speaker 7: We know that there needs to be other avenues and

491
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Speaker 7: other individuals that are seriously like they have the ability

492
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Speaker 7: to win, that we can choose from. But if you

493
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Speaker 7: don't like the process, you have to participate in it.

494
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Speaker 7: So you have to show up and be like, who

495
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Speaker 7: is this delegate? Because I want you to represent me,

496
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Speaker 7: and I didn't want you to vote for Kamala Harris,

497
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Speaker 7: So now let me what's your name. One of the

498
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Speaker 7: biggest things that happened to us while we were in

499
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Speaker 7: Kentucky with Brianna Taylor is.

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Speaker 4: You know, people walking up to us going or for

501
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Speaker 4: Breonna Taylor. Excuse me.

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Speaker 7: People were walking around saying, well, who is Daniel Cameron,

503
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Speaker 7: Like he's the attorney general. They were like, I didn't

504
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 7: vote for trying when is that election? So we can

505
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Speaker 7: and we transformed. We helped people along with the local

506
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Speaker 7: community to transform the minds of our.

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Speaker 4: People to pay attention.

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Speaker 7: So by the time he ran for governor, black folks

509
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Speaker 7: was like, oh wait, oh that's that dude. Oh okay,

510
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Speaker 7: you're not going You're not getting appointed to a new

511
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Speaker 7: position and getting a promotion.

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Speaker 4: We shutting you down.

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Speaker 5: But you're saying something important about the political political education.

514
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Speaker 5: Going to the DNC, which some of us had the

515
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Speaker 5: ability to do, you learn so much about the process

516
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Speaker 5: and going for many years, you understand how the process works.

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Speaker 1: You know the people.

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Speaker 5: Most Americans have no access to that. So because of that,

519
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 5: they become disenchanted with the political process. They feel like

520
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Speaker 5: they don't have any saying it. We didn't participate, and

521
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Speaker 5: they don't realize there's a way for you to be engaged.

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Speaker 5: And that's why even going to the DNC this year,

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Speaker 5: while I don't agree with many things, I understand it's

524
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Speaker 5: an important part of political education and I would like

525
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Speaker 5: more people to see that be a part of it,

526
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Speaker 5: watch it in a more intimate way because that will

527
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Speaker 5: enhance civic engagement, which just isn't voting, but it's this piece,

528
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Speaker 5: how do I get involved in who the delegates are

529
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Speaker 5: who make important decisions for the party. I think that's

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Speaker 5: a huge piece missing from the American political experience.

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Speaker 1: But part of that is on purpose.

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Speaker 5: Because parties know if you keep people politically uneducated, you

533
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Speaker 5: will keep them not civically engaged, and then they won't

534
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Speaker 5: vote and others could win. So I think we have

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Speaker 5: to shift and do a better job of that. But

536
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Speaker 5: we're also in a moment where people are very politically disenchanted,

537
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Speaker 5: where they feel like the political process doesn't serve them,

538
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Speaker 5: doesn't work for them, people don't care about them, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's the issue that the Vice president is

540
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Speaker 5: running into and why Michelle Obama resonated so much with

541
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Speaker 5: people because she's not a political person, but she's talking

542
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Speaker 5: to people's values and the realities they experience. So I

543
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Speaker 5: think she has to pivot and do that more, and

544
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Speaker 5: I think she'll reach a wider cross section of America.

545
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Speaker 5: But I think democracy in America has to change where

546
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Speaker 5: more people can be politically engaged to understand what the

547
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Speaker 5: process is and not to feel left.

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Speaker 7: And if your political education is coming from Instagram, it

549
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 7: can be kind of man, I mean, it could be dangerous, so,

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Speaker 7: you know, and you know, unfortunately, I mean fortunately for

551
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Speaker 7: someone like me, I grew up in a household that

552
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Speaker 7: was all about black empowerment. It was about learning the process,

553
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Speaker 7: going to the precinct council meetings to see who the

554
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Speaker 7: police offices were. But my neighbors, people who live right

555
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 7: there in the building, they didn't get to do that.

556
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Speaker 7: They didn't get those same experiences. And you can see

557
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Speaker 7: the difference, you know. So it's our job to teach,

558
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Speaker 7: and which we are doing with our Project Freedom, which

559
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Speaker 7: we want to talk about, you know, making sure because

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Speaker 7: one thing I will say is I want to give

561
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Speaker 7: our people credit for the fact that even though we

562
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Speaker 7: may not have been properly educated folks are trying to

563
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Speaker 7: find out. So whatever way, wherever they're going, whether they

564
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Speaker 7: get the right information or not, they're like, some is

565
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Speaker 7: not right, Like.

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Speaker 4: There's a fly in the buttermilk. We got it, this

567
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Speaker 4: is not. I'm not feeling this.

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Speaker 7: And that's partially because I don't care how many times

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Speaker 7: the Biden administration says, well, we've cut child poverty in half,

570
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Speaker 7: and we did.

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Speaker 4: We brought down prices.

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Speaker 7: If that's fine, but the people that we work with,

573
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Speaker 7: they're still in poverty. Right, they're not feeling that they

574
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 7: have to be able to feel it. So however, they're

575
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Speaker 7: getting educated. At least they're coming to the process. And

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Speaker 7: I think it's our responsibility because I hear people saying, well,

577
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Speaker 7: what's our agenda, and we want to make sure, which

578
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Speaker 7: we have done by putting together Project Freedom, which is

579
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Speaker 7: a growing living document that really kind of looks at

580
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Speaker 7: many of the legislative items that have been hanging out

581
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Speaker 7: there for years, like people have been putting forth bills.

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Speaker 7: And in fact, one of the reasons why I support

583
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Speaker 7: Kamala Harris is because I know about the things that

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Speaker 7: she was doing while she was in the Senate, and

585
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Speaker 7: you know, before she became president. I know about bills

586
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Speaker 7: that she co sponsored, bills that she signed that she

587
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 7: helped write, the George Floyd Justison Police and Act when

588
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 7: it included ending qualified immunity, which means.

589
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Speaker 4: That you could go after an officer directly.

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Speaker 7: Like, these are things that she's been involved in supporting

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Speaker 7: the study for reper I don't know why people keep

592
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Speaker 7: saying that the woman is not for reparations. I have

593
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 7: heard her say over and over again. I don't understand them.

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Speaker 7: She said she supports it. The thing is, there are

595
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Speaker 7: many different people out here that see reparations differently.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: There are people you got the uh the eight, which

598
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 7: is the American descendants of slaves. They have their concept

599
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Speaker 7: of the fact that reparations should only be going to

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Speaker 7: people who come who are American citizens. Then you have

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Speaker 7: people who come from a more of a mindset of

602
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Speaker 7: the diaspora, which includes people from all over the world

603
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Speaker 7: globally who are black or African receiving reparations. I fall

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Speaker 7: in that category because this is how I was raised.

605
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Speaker 7: Doctor ben Benjamin Johaka and others who taught us about

606
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Speaker 7: reparations from a global perspective that we must see Africans

607
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 7: around the world as part of our liberation. And so

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Speaker 7: there are different people who have different concepts. And in

609
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 7: her mind she said, you know something about like checks.

610
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Speaker 7: She didn't think that you could just give people cash

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Speaker 7: and let that be the end.

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Speaker 4: There has to be a study that.

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Speaker 7: You couldn't you can't some people feel that's all it

614
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Speaker 7: should be. So there's what you call a meeting of

615
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Speaker 7: the minds. But just because I'm might be in the

616
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Speaker 7: atos that pot or this or that, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 7: I don't support reparations.

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Speaker 8: How we do it. What I'm that clip to day, what.

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Speaker 5: The people also want to see. There's another piece and

620
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Speaker 5: we see this all the time when you do policy,

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Speaker 5: there's an implementation piece. So people like to hear you

622
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 5: care about an issue, but how are you going to

623
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Speaker 5: make an issue happen? Because we care about many things,

624
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Speaker 5: But what are you going to make actually happen? And

625
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Speaker 5: how are you going to do So it's part of

626
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Speaker 5: what's behind I don't know if you support it, because

627
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Speaker 5: it's like saying in your household, I support my children

628
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 5: eating right, but you buy junk food. It's like your

629
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 5: actions have to show how you actually support it. And

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Speaker 5: a lot of people's questioning is coming from a place

631
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Speaker 5: that says, you're saying this, but you're doing that, You're

632
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Speaker 5: not prioritizing the things you say you support. So that's another,

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Speaker 5: I think level of political accountability. And people may not

634
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 5: be asking the right question, but they're really saying, so

635
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: you say you support rep, tell me how, and now

636
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Speaker 5: show me how and a timeline in which you're going

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Speaker 5: to implement it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what folks want to say.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so talk about project for you comin just need

640
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Speaker 6: to tell these niggas what they want to hear.

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Speaker 3: Say anything.

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Speaker 8: Everybody else.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats traditionally, and I think some of us politically

644
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: try to have a standard where we don't just lie

645
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Speaker 5: because we could say we're going to do all the

646
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Speaker 5: things you want and say all the right things, but

647
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Speaker 5: on the back end.

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Speaker 1: You'll suffer because you don't really deliver them.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you don't have a Congress that supports.

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Speaker 1: You, then you can't implement it to begin with.

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Speaker 8: Right now, what's our project freedom?

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to read a few of the things

653
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Speaker 5: on Project Freedom, and one of the things I'll say

654
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Speaker 5: before I even do that is project freedom on some

655
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 5: level was a response to Project twenty twenty five. So

656
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: folks started to hear a lot about this plan to

657
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Speaker 5: roll back rights to attack particular groups. And part of

658
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Speaker 5: what we said is that we wanted to respond to

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Speaker 5: that because we're knowing to we're an.

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Speaker 1: Important political moment.

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Speaker 5: But also Project Freedom is a political platform or policy

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Speaker 5: that we said we would like to see whoever comes

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Speaker 5: into office a DoPT because there are certain things that

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Speaker 5: we know are important that should happen. Some of those

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Speaker 5: things are an end to gun violence, endto mass incarceration,

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Speaker 5: end of police brutality, strengthening and pass the George Floyd

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Speaker 5: Justice and Policing Act, providing a pathway to citizenship, ending

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Speaker 5: the war in Palestine and Sudan, protecting black history, provide

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Speaker 5: a reparations for slavery, offer free college and trade school,

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Speaker 5: Cancel student debt, Pastor John Lewis Voter Rights Act, launch

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Speaker 5: automatic voter registration, restore individuals voting rights, reform the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 5: expand child tax credits, and provide guaranteed annual income. So

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Speaker 5: it's a lot of things in there, but part of

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Speaker 5: what we're trying to convey to folks is that it

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Speaker 5: isn't enough to just have one policy, but you must

676
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Speaker 5: really have a political platform someone can adopt that creates

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Speaker 5: wide and sweeping changes. The other pieces that we know

678
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Speaker 5: a lot of these issues are connected, and how you

679
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Speaker 5: spend your money in one place will tell us how

680
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Speaker 5: you can spend or can spend money in other places.

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Speaker 5: So we're trying to provide a comprehensive platform that one

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Speaker 5: creates political education, but also a standard that we can

683
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Speaker 5: hold folks will come in to us.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 6: I was talking about guy Gary Chambers Junior yesterday and

686
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Speaker 6: he was saying, you know, one of the mistakes that

687
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Speaker 6: folks make, they'll ask questions, what have you done over

688
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Speaker 6: the last three and a half years, four years? He said,

689
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Speaker 6: instead of asking those questions, you should be just going

690
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Speaker 6: through them saying, hey, this is what you should be doing.

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Speaker 6: Here's the agenda that we want.

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Speaker 8: You to ask implement.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and Project Freedom is important to us because we

694
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Speaker 7: know as we travel this country, we're going to be

695
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Speaker 7: out there knocking on doors.

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Speaker 4: We knock on doors all year.

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Speaker 7: Round, So this is not like we do a thing

698
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Speaker 7: that happens when it's a presidential election or some political

699
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Speaker 7: person that we want to get in or take out

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Speaker 7: do We do it all the time. We are always

701
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Speaker 7: engaging our people, and when we're knocking on doors, people

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Speaker 7: don't want to they hear you. They know Project twenty

703
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Speaker 7: twenty five is bad. They understand it. They've seen on

704
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Speaker 7: the news. They Grandmama's talking about it. People what do

705
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Speaker 7: they call it? It's called it's you know, black folks

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Speaker 7: go Shore. Is some project twenty five.

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Speaker 4: We don't say.

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Speaker 7: Twenty five, that project twenty twenty. Excuse me, project twenty five.

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Speaker 7: And so people know that, but they are gonna ask you,

710
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Speaker 7: and they should.

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Speaker 4: What do we have.

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Speaker 7: You're in the room with these people to meet Mallory, Angelo, Pino, Mysan, Linda,

713
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 7: y'all have talked to these people. What are you offering?

714
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Speaker 7: What are you demanding? What are you asking for? And

715
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Speaker 7: we wanted to make sure along with our partners. I

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Speaker 7: have to mention Michael Blake, Reverend Stephen Green, Pastor Michael McBride,

717
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Speaker 7: Dewana Thompson, of course, our sister Linda Sarsore. This platform

718
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Speaker 7: is something that all of us have worked on because

719
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 7: we've been doing this work and we know the legislative

720
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Speaker 7: items that are already out there that could help to

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Speaker 7: alleviate some of the suffering that our communities are talking about.

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Speaker 4: We know how they can be strengthened.

723
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Speaker 7: We understand that passing and George Floyd justicson Police and

724
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Speaker 7: Act as it currently stands will not work because of

725
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 7: one it has been watered down so much in order

726
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 7: to appease the Republicans who never signed it anyway, So

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Speaker 7: I have no idea. Corey Booker, Senator Corey Booker was

728
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 7: working with Senator Tim Scott, and every day we were all,

729
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Speaker 7: you know, advocating for what we wanted to be in

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Speaker 7: the bill, and they kept saying that Tim Scott had

731
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Speaker 7: this idea or he you know, he's trying to you know,

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Speaker 7: make the bills this way or that way in order

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Speaker 7: to appease the Republican leadership. And I kept saying, Tim

734
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Speaker 7: Scott cannot get anything done if white people don't tell

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Speaker 7: him what to do. So let's stop like it's a

736
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 7: game that's being played. And of course the bill fell through,

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Speaker 7: and it has sort of been dead since, you know,

738
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Speaker 7: you know, since we were out there in twenty twenty one. Now,

739
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Speaker 7: President Biden did sign an executive order, but what we

740
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 7: know about executive order is they only last to the

741
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Speaker 7: extent that the next administration wants to keep that legislation

742
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Speaker 7: and it only focused on federal legislation. We need to

743
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 7: get things happening in these states and we have to

744
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 7: be able to hold these police departments accountable. Let me

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00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 7: just say this last thing. You know, last last week,

746
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Speaker 7: we people were heartbroken to see that there has been

747
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Speaker 7: yet another setback in the case of the killing of

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Speaker 7: Breonna Tailor. And so there's two charges, two federal charges

749
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Speaker 7: that the judge dismissed. And of course they continuously blame

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Speaker 7: Kenny Walker, which is disrespectful and disingenuous because nobody in

751
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Speaker 7: that building heard the police officers announce themselves and to

752
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Speaker 7: say who they were at the door. And I don't

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00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 7: know where these other people live, but I know in

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Speaker 7: black people's homes, if you knock on the door and

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Speaker 7: don't say who you are, when we say who it is.

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Speaker 4: We're not opening the door for you.

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00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 9: In fact, we're finna get quiet, move around, try to

758
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Speaker 9: make sure we're out the way of the door.

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Speaker 4: That's what we do. That's what they did.

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Speaker 7: But also in the state of Kentucky, these people pass

761
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 7: laws and then they get mad at you for following it,

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Speaker 7: you are allowed to fire a warning shot inside of

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Speaker 7: your home if you feel in danger.

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Speaker 4: That is what Kenny Walker did. He did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 7: So we saw the setback where this eighty year old

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Speaker 7: conservative judge dismissed these two charges, which are again the

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Speaker 7: federal charges, which would have been felonies. Right, they're still

768
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Speaker 7: charges that those officers are facing.

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Speaker 4: But it took him two years.

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Speaker 7: And for whatever reason they decide to announce this the

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Speaker 7: day after the DNC maybe this conspiracy, I don't know,

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Speaker 7: but it's just very interesting it took him two years.

773
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Speaker 7: What I want people to understand why we sit up

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Speaker 7: here and debate whether or not is Trump and this

775
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 7: and that. The reason why there are even charges against

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00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 7: these officers at all is because President Biden also selected

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Speaker 7: Christen Clark, who is the head of the Civil Rights

778
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 7: Division within the Department of Justice, and because of her work,

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00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 7: we have seen a number of officers tried and prosecuted

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Speaker 7: and convicted. It will not happen under a Trump presidency.

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Speaker 7: Not because I think that, right, because drawn this new

782
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: thing online is that anybody who supports the Democrats, or

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00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 7: supports Kamala Harris, or you know, even when at the

784
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 7: point that people were saying we were potentially voting for

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden, which God blessed, I don't have to do that,

786
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Speaker 7: Thank God, I don't have.

787
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Speaker 3: To do that.

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Speaker 7: But even you know, during that time, one of the

789
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Speaker 7: things that I keep hearing, and it has been said

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Speaker 7: to me by a number of black men Charlemagne, Oh,

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Speaker 7: you guys don't think critically and objectively. You can't think

792
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Speaker 7: for yourself. No, I'm thinking for myself.

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Speaker 8: Heard that.

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Speaker 9: They said it all the time, and it's very disturct.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, I've been sitting here.

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Speaker 9: I've been sitting here waiting to ask you about Brionna

797
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Speaker 9: Taylor because for me, like I've been studying, I've been

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Speaker 9: I've been reported on this case since it first like

799
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 9: started having a conversation, and people have continuously said if

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Speaker 9: there were video, things would be different. And now we're

801
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Speaker 9: here right where the charges are being dropped and like

802
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 9: there probably have to be an a pill which is

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Speaker 9: going to stress things out, which is like heartbreaking for

804
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Speaker 9: the family. I feel like it's a public trust thing now,

805
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 9: Like do you feel like this is going to shake

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00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 9: public trust even when it comes to like Coammala, because

807
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 9: people are gonna be looking at her like, I mean,

808
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 9: you're a black woman now, like we don't. We don't

809
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 9: have the luxury to say, well, Biden, he's there, but

810
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Speaker 9: he kind of he does what he can do, but

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Speaker 9: he doesn't get it well, I mean, by.

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Speaker 4: The way it is.

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Speaker 7: And I think that was one of the things that

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Speaker 7: was missing from her speech. Again, I feel like she

815
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Speaker 7: should have named Brionna Taylor Sonia Massy.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: On other issues, she was very, very strong, and I

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00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 7: would like to see the same energy around police accountability.

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Speaker 7: And I know there are some of my people, especially

820
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 7: my elders, who will be like, well, you know, that

821
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Speaker 7: may not have been the time or place, and we

822
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Speaker 7: debate that, but they always say it's not the time

823
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Speaker 7: or place and we have to wait until and it's

824
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Speaker 7: gonna happen later.

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Speaker 6: They said that in twenty twenty, had her debate because

826
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Speaker 6: I was listening to an old podcast meet BOOKAR and

827
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Speaker 6: W and K williamsday and that's one of the things

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Speaker 6: that every brought up. She wished she had spoken to

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Speaker 6: Brionna Taylor Moore because I guess it came up during

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Speaker 6: the Mike Pinch debate. I forgot what the context was.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely so I think that that should have happened. But

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Speaker 7: I just want to say, to drill down this point.

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Speaker 7: I don't It's not that I'm not thinking objectively about

834
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 7: what Trump can do, or that I'm listening to some

835
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 7: you know, misinformation on the internet. I'm telling you about

836
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Speaker 7: what was happening when he was president. When he was

837
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Speaker 7: president what's his name, Barr, the former attorney William Barr,

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Speaker 7: William Barr, the attorney general at the time. Not only

839
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 7: did he dismantle all the work that President Obama was

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Speaker 7: doing to put these police departments under fire for violating

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Speaker 7: the civil rights of citizens, and because the consent decrees

842
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Speaker 7: and the work that they were doing, they were seriously

843
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Speaker 7: challenging police departments. And Christian Kark has started that back again.

844
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Speaker 7: She's doing that work around the country. I think Kansas.

845
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's a bunch of places to get a

846
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: lot of consent degrees, which is very important because it

847
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 7: puts us as citizens on notice and the police department,

848
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Speaker 7: and we want to see it strengthen more because we

849
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Speaker 7: wanted to be tied to federal funding.

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Speaker 9: There is some of that now, but it could be more.

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Speaker 9: But not only did he dismantle all of that work.

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Speaker 7: He also created the Black Identity Extremists List right, which

853
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 7: many of us are pretty sure we were on, which

854
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 7: they were pretty much targeting and surveilling activists and people

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00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 7: who talk black and speak truth to power. So it's

856
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Speaker 7: not that I'm not smart to understand or I can't

857
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Speaker 7: think objectively.

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Speaker 4: Nah, I can see what you did.

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00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 7: And I know there is a difference between a president

860
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 7: who I may disagree with on a number of things,

861
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 7: who decided to put black women in positions where they

862
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 7: are actually getting things done. Katanji Brown, She unfortunately is

863
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 7: outnumbered in the Supreme Court, but she and Sonya so

864
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 7: to Mayor, these.

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Speaker 9: People are voting in the opposite direction to try to

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Speaker 9: protect American citizens.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the people that Trump appointed to.

868
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Speaker 7: The court are voting in the opposite direction to take

869
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 7: away our rights and our freedoms.

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Speaker 4: So please stop.

871
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Speaker 9: Trying to diminish our understanding of this political moment to

872
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 9: us just being democratic shills and we just have drunk

873
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Speaker 9: the kool aid.

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00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: No, I'm paying attention to what's happening.

875
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 7: And for people like Angelo in me if under a

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00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 7: Trump presidency, especially in this moment, knowing that he has

877
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 7: this venom in him, and you know he has this

878
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: venom in him also because he has to face a

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00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 7: black woman on the stage and you see him trying

880
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 7: to wiggle out of that. You don't want that they

881
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 7: will put us in jail.

882
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 6: Can you speak to Donald Trump saying he pledges to

883
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 6: give cops community from prosecution.

884
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: I mean, these are the things. This is the thing

885
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: he's saying.

886
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: What I got about.

887
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: They already had damn near immunity.

888
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 7: And you said you asked about you know what happens

889
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 7: now and if there was a video, But there's actual

890
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 7: admission the one of the offices.

891
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: She said, we met in the.

892
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 9: Garage and made up a story and this happened, and

893
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 9: that the case was so crazy. I remember when I

894
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 9: was reporting this because the newsroom ice Worcord TMC, so

895
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 9: that newsroom is like it was just me on the

896
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 9: news desk, right, and they couldn't believe that police would

897
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 9: falsify a document. And like I remember the day when

898
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 9: that came out that it happened. I swear we had

899
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 9: a very long conversation and I'm like, I don't know

900
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 9: where y'all from, but where I'm from, that's normal. Like

901
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 9: it it's me the one that is the famous quote

902
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 9: the ones that write the reports. I have go look

903
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 9: it up because it basically is saying that the same

904
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 9: people who write the reports are doing the killing, and

905
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 9: they're the ones that they're supposed to police themselves.

906
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: And so I mean immunity those that'sos to affect society.

907
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 9: But I feel like in this case, it's like they're missing,

908
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 9: like that doesn't matter. It's like, oh, well, we're gonna

909
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 9: blame it over here. But it's like, you guys wouldn't

910
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 9: even have been in the house had you not done

911
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 9: everything you did to illegally enter the home.

912
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and so immunity is already there. But when he

913
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 7: says full immunity from prosecution. I don't know if you

914
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 7: watched it in.

915
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 4: A BJ interviews.

916
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 7: Okay, so there's a moment when he's asked about Sonia

917
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 7: Massy and he does this physical thing. I'm telling you

918
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 7: Trump is a very very dangerous man. He does this

919
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 7: thing with his hands. He says, oh, you're talking about

920
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 7: the case with the water, Like he does this, in

921
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 7: other words, to signal to people he's gonna throw the water.

922
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 7: And he did that intentionally because it puts a message

923
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 7: into people's minds that maybe she was threatening to the officer,

924
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 7: which we know did not happen.

925
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: These are the excuses that they come up with.

926
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Speaker 7: And then it was days later that the officers started saying, well,

927
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: I felt like her words and the water I was.

928
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 9: It was, you know, so these people I'm not I'm

929
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 9: not here. Actually I wish that for me personally.

930
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 7: If I could make a decision, I would vote for

931
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 7: Cornell West right, That's just me. I would absolutely be

932
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 7: with Cornell because Cornell has been with us in the trenches.

933
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: Vote with Cornell Oma.

934
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I would vote think.

935
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Speaker 9: Us.

936
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying a lot.

937
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 7: I'm saying yeah, I would vote for him if I

938
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Speaker 7: had an opportunity. And I'm not talking about race. I mean,

939
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 7: excuse me, gender. Let's take away whether they're a female,

940
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 7: male or any of that, because obviously, first of all,

941
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 7: Kamala Harris is my sorority sister, were both aka's and

942
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 7: I'm definitely that is one motivating factor for me, and

943
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 7: I don't care who doesn't like it, because that's what

944
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 7: and the divine.

945
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 5: Nine we support.

946
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 7: We support one another, and then we take you to

947
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 7: the side and pull your coattail. What we feel that's something,

948
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 7: but we support one another first, So absolutely, from a

949
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 7: female from a gender perspective, absolutely. However, if we're talking

950
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 7: about just looking at platforms and understanding people's political courage,

951
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 7: what they will do and say, we know who Cornell

952
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 7: West is.

953
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: So if I had to make a decision today and

954
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: it would and I could really really ensure that Cornell

955
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: West wins, of course I would support him. But we

956
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 4: know good and well that.

957
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 7: This country is not set up for a third party

958
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 7: to really ascend and win. I don't have time my

959
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 7: black son and my granddaughter being able to make decisions

960
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 7: on behalf of her body. Unfortunately, in these seventy days,

961
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 7: I don't have time to go messing around saying that

962
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 7: I'm gonna vote with somebody who I know does not

963
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 7: have the ability to win. I have to block Trump

964
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 7: from becoming president. What I will say, though, is that

965
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 7: I will make sure that I continue to work beginning

966
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 7: November six, so after the election, when other people go home,

967
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 7: we stay on the battlefield. Now, if we want to

968
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 7: organize ourselves to have a real serious third party situation,

969
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: I'm down let's do it. But if I come out

970
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 7: and tell y'all, we don't wear Gucci no more because

971
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 7: they came out with the blackface of sweater, or we

972
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 7: don't support Nike anymore because they just canceled Kyrie's contract

973
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 7: for nothing after the man or breed American Airlines threw

974
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 7: me off the plane, and that every week is a

975
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 7: different situation and people just black people just went back

976
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 7: on the plane, black people still wearing Nike. If we're

977
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 7: gonna be serious and discipline, don't come at me because

978
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 7: I'm making a decision on behalf of my family, my body,

979
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 7: my ability to choose for myself what to do with

980
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 7: my health, me personally knowing that I am on the

981
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 7: Black Identity Extremists list and I could be in jail

982
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 7: under a Trump presidency. Let's get organized, Let's stop using

983
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 7: social media to fight and harm one another and sit

984
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 7: down at the table and have somebody like Cornell West

985
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 7: who can help us. Do I think that Kamala Harris

986
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 7: could be a great president. I truly believe that, And

987
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be there every day if I got to

988
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 7: use my divine nine hat to get in, if I

989
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 7: got to beg to get in, because I'm going to

990
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 7: Charlemagne and say, give me a ticket, so I can

991
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 7: embarrass you and go on and start yelling.

992
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 6: Out, but I think there's I think there is going

993
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 6: to be a seat at the table for activists like

994
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 6: yourself and the Kamala Harris.

995
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 4: I think so truly.

996
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 7: I know Kamala Harris and and I have had conversation

997
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 7: with her. I truly do believe that within her it's

998
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 7: something different and that's what people are afraid of.

999
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 4: And we know that because again we know where she

1000
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: was and who she aligned with.

1001
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 7: I can remember the great, beautiful, intelligent, brilliant Congresswoman Shila

1002
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 7: Jackson Lee speaking to Kamala's support of the reparations bill. Right, yes,

1003
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 7: it is a study, it is not yet actual reparations,

1004
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 7: but we know the process is what it is. And

1005
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 7: I like the process, but we got to be involved

1006
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 7: in it. So somebody like Shila Jackson Lee, if she

1007
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 7: comes to me and says, well, you know, Kamala Harris

1008
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 7: is with us, and she gives me a list of

1009
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 7: people who are supporting and then the list of folks

1010
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 7: who are not, that to me means something, right, because

1011
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 7: I trust her.

1012
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: I believe her.

1013
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 7: I believe someone who says, as a prosecutor, I am

1014
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 7: still willing to say that police officers need to be

1015
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 7: on their own, challenged and prosecuted and sued financially if

1016
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 7: they are going to violate the civil rights of citizens.

1017
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 7: I believe in that, so I want to see more.

1018
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 7: I did wish that she would speak to, you know,

1019
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 7: the issue of police accountability, particularly around women.

1020
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: And also I'm hoping, I'm praying that she really means

1021
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: and will do something to deal with the conflict of

1022
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: Israel Palestan and the war on the Palestinian people. I

1023
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: think it was a misstep. Well, you asked your question,

1024
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 4: and then I'll say.

1025
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna say, you know, from an activist standpoint,

1026
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 6: how much of an issue is Israel and gods are

1027
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 6: going to be in this year's election, because we saw

1028
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 6: all the uncommitted votes in the primary. So what are

1029
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 6: our activists and pro Palaestinian people going and doing November?

1030
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 6: And I was going to ask, how have you liked

1031
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 6: the VP's messaging thus far about it?

1032
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 7: Well, I've been down the road of, you know, dealing

1033
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 7: with the issue of Israel Palestine for lots of different reasons.

1034
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 7: My proximity to our proximity to Linda Sarsour who is

1035
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 7: our sister, our dear friend, who we pray for every day,

1036
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 7: because what she has experienced over the last year is unthinkable, unthinkable,

1037
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 7: watching her people perish and be starved to death, children,

1038
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 7: people calling her from like I'm sitting with her, and

1039
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 7: they calling from Gaza, like, help us do something because

1040
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 7: they believe in her.

1041
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: She's a leader.

1042
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 7: So why can't you fix this you over there in

1043
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 7: America her tax? Imagine that that your tax dollars as

1044
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 7: an American citizen.

1045
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: Is going to the death and destruction of your own people.

1046
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: It is terrible. And so you know, I know about this.

1047
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 7: I understand the APAC, you know the influence that they

1048
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 7: have on our government officials. I understand the ADL and

1049
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 7: the influence that they have. I get all of these things.

1050
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 7: So I know that for her to say what she's saying,

1051
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 7: it takes political courage. It is no joke for her

1052
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 7: to even speak in the ways in what she's speaking.

1053
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 7: And you know, you and I debated the Josh Shapiro Shapiro.

1054
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: Pick.

1055
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 7: You said that you know you know him well enough

1056
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 7: to know that he's a good guy. And I believe

1057
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 7: that because I heard that from a lot of people.

1058
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 7: You know, you know, a lot of people talk about

1059
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 7: the things that he's doing there in Pennsylvania, but I

1060
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 7: think that his statements around that issue is something that

1061
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 7: doesn't it can't align.

1062
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 4: And of course we do not know.

1063
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 7: Why she decided to pick Tim Wallas, although I believe

1064
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 7: it was a brilliant decision, which gives me already an

1065
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 7: idea of the way that she's thinking and her instincts.

1066
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 7: Because there were a lot of people pushing for Shapiro,

1067
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 7: but the attitude that he had and the words that

1068
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 7: he said about the war, and some people don't like

1069
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 7: to use the word war, So I will say the

1070
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: attack on the people in Gaza, the way in which

1071
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 7: he spoke about protesters and the students on the campuses

1072
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 7: let me know, or at least made me feel that

1073
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 7: it would be very difficult for her to have this

1074
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 7: particular concept for ceasefire and the direction that she wants

1075
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 7: to take, and then him really having a Zionist mindset,

1076
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 7: that those two things will be very difficult to work

1077
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 7: together because she already has to deal with within the

1078
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 7: administration the people who are going to be pulling in

1079
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 7: the direction of continuing to support Israel, no matter how

1080
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 7: it is operating and the illegal activities that they are

1081
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 7: involved in, right because we know as I listened to

1082
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 7: her speak, she said, well, you know, it is horrible

1083
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 7: what's happening to them, and so many lives lost, know,

1084
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 7: their lives being taken. They are people being killed, and

1085
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 7: we can't and it's hard to even be able to

1086
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 7: speak to it in that way.

1087
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: And I have to be honest, if you listen to

1088
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 4: what she said.

1089
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 7: She spoke to exactly what is happening to the Israeli

1090
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 7: citizens or what happened to them.

1091
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 4: Murder.

1092
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 7: There's a lot of debate around rape, we won't get

1093
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 7: into that today, but murder she talked about, you know,

1094
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 7: all of those things, the horrific actions of Hamasue. But

1095
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 7: then when it comes to the conversation around the Palestinians,

1096
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 7: it's almost like there's an earthquake that happened, or it's like,

1097
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 7: you know, it's so horrible what they are experiencing. So

1098
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Speaker 7: I understand the nuances of how difficult it is to

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00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 7: talk about this, but the mere fact that she's saying

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00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 7: anything at all, and she had a very strong posture,

1101
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 7: like you could hear the tone and the way in

1102
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 7: which she delivered that particular portion of her speech. You

1103
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 7: know that she also cannot stand to see children, innocent

1104
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 7: people dying the way that they are.

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00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 4: And I believe that if.

1106
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 7: We continue to push the uncommitted folks are not going

1107
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: to stop organizing. People asking the question why at the

1108
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 7: DNC and not the RNC. It's precisely for what you said.

1109
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 7: These are generally Democratic voters. They are pressing their particular

1110
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 7: party that they were once or are part of to

1111
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 7: do something about genocide.

1112
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: So you know, so I know about that pressure. I

1113
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 4: know about it because I experienced it in the Women's March.

1114
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: I still experience it today. And look at Corey Bush

1115
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 4: and Jamal Bowman. These are two people who just lost their.

1116
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 9: Elections because of APAC and the organizing that they did.

1117
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 9: And let me say on this show publicly, there are

1118
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 9: black people who are a part of APAX operation and

1119
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 9: younger black people, some of them we know. So do

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00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 9: not sit there and get in your mind that this

1121
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 9: is some group of white men that are some evil

1122
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 9: white men. Know there are black people on APAX payroll

1123
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 9: who are part of organizing to take out people who

1124
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 9: are speaking truth to power. It is no way that

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00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 9: Corey Bush should have lost her election. As important as

1126
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 9: that woman is Jamal Bowman, somebody who has been speaking

1127
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 9: truth to power. You know, Jamal out there fighting in Washington,

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00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 9: DC for us, and they have been taken out by

1129
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 9: people who will absolutely go.

1130
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: Along to get along within the system.

1131
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 5: And that's because and it's so important to connect all

1132
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 5: the dots of what we've been saying, because even Project

1133
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, there was a plan, right, there's a

1134
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 5: plan to do these things. There's a plan to attack

1135
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: political folks who stand up for important issues. There's a

1136
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 5: plan to attack education. There's a plan to attack activists

1137
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: who hold politicians accountable. There's a plan to do these things.

1138
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 5: So if we don't have a plan to counter act,

1139
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 5: then we find ourselves in a lot of trouble.

1140
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: And part of what's important for us and is what

1141
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: we do.

1142
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 5: I think people see us sometimes at the DNC and

1143
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 5: I got a lot of people say, oh, you support

1144
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 5: the Democrats.

1145
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: I say, I'm here working.

1146
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 5: We're doing what we do, which is holding these folks accountable.

1147
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 5: And I think one of the things we want to

1148
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 5: see in others, particularly the Palestinian delegations, they want to

1149
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 5: see and we have to make this happen.

1150
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: They want to see.

1151
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris become more activists and how she moves and

1152
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: her political skits.

1153
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 6: She can't do that, she's a politician. Well, what politicians

1154
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 6: got to be politicians? Activists got to be acting well, I.

1155
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: Think politic you want to win.

1156
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 5: What politicians can take stances that become active in how

1157
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 5: they move politically. I was watching a documentary on Jimmy

1158
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: Carter and how activist he was around the environment, brokering

1159
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 5: peace across the world.

1160
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: I think politicians get to decide who they are.

1161
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: Donald Trump is a great example of a politician who

1162
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: decided I'm going to be completely unorthodox.

1163
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 8: And you think he decided.

1164
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: He's unorganized, But.

1165
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 5: I'm saying that resonated with people, and he has the

1166
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 5: ability to decide how he shows up. And I think

1167
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 5: people want her, and I think the excitement around her

1168
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 5: is that.

1169
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: People believe she will show up differently.

1170
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 5: But it's our responsibility, people who care about progressive issues,

1171
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 5: to make her show up in a way that's different

1172
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: than every president before, because I think if she doesn't,

1173
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 5: she will have.

1174
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: A hard future.

1175
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 5: We want her to succeed, but we want her to

1176
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 5: be different. We don't want the same kind of politician.

1177
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 5: We're not looking for a black woman to show up

1178
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 5: how white men show up. If that happens, we've done

1179
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: ourselves a disservice.

1180
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Speaker 6: I tell you, I feel like she's different. I feel

1181
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: like for me personally, maybe because I know her as well.

1182
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 6: This is the first time in a long time that

1183
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm not voting for the lesser of

1184
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 6: two evils. I don't feel like I'm voting for evil

1185
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 6: at all.

1186
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't think she's I don't think she's evil.

1187
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: A lot of people aren't there.

1188
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: But I just would like to say.

1189
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Speaker 7: When you say that she has to be a politician

1190
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 7: and activists have to do one thing, just do for

1191
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 7: us what you say you're gonna do for Israel.

1192
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: You speak activisty because I swear when they get not

1193
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: just her.

1194
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 7: When these these elected officials get up and talk about Israel,

1195
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 7: they are strong on it. They say, I, you know,

1196
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 7: Israel has the right to defend itself, and we will

1197
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 7: support speak like that about black people.

1198
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Speaker 8: When it comes to the innocent women and men and.

1199
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Speaker 4: Children, absolutely speak like that the Palesinians.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think the Democrats need to do

1201
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: to win this election. In Novemo, oh, they got to contemn.

1202
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 7: Let me tell you, do not translate excitement at a

1203
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 7: convention or even excitement about out, you know, her ascension

1204
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 7: to the top of the ticket to votes.

1205
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: Because you got to knock on doors.

1206
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 7: You have to go out and educate people, and you

1207
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 7: have to make sure that there is that there is

1208
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 7: resources on the ground, right, and we're not talking about

1209
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 7: on the ground, like there's some people that claim they

1210
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 7: on the ground, you know, like tangible, but we're talking

1211
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 7: about under the root. They say there's the grassroots, and

1212
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 7: then there's under the room. There's people, right, those people

1213
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 7: have to have the resources that they need to be

1214
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: able to knock on doors.

1215
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: You need credible messengers.

1216
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 7: This whole process of we gotta vet everything and everybody.

1217
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 7: And you know, if you had this issue or that,

1218
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 7: we got to stay away from you and we have

1219
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 7: to do that. You know, one day, I'll tell my

1220
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 7: story about what happened to me during the Stacy Abrams

1221
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 7: campaign and factice in my book right now, it's called

1222
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 7: I Live to Tell This Story and it's going to

1223
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 7: be released in the winter. And you know, I and

1224
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 7: and and and by the way, Stacey Abrams had nothing.

1225
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 4: To do with this.

1226
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 7: But I talk about me being held or told not

1227
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 7: to come to Georgia at all, don't even step foot

1228
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 7: in a state during the time in the last few

1229
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 7: days of her election, and the folks saying it to me.

1230
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 7: They really did have good intention, you know what I mean.

1231
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 7: So I'll tell y'all not yet, not yet, but coming

1232
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 7: out that'll be in there. But the reason why I

1233
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 7: brought that up is because you know, oftentimes we sacrifice

1234
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 7: some of our people because we're so busy trying to

1235
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 7: appease these other folks.

1236
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: That's never gonna be with you.

1237
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 6: I don't think we have that luxury. We don't have

1238
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: the luxury of cutting any of our people.

1239
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 7: Can't bring everybody along. We'll bring Pooky red ray Tt.

1240
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 7: We always say, if you're not at the strip club, right.

1241
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 7: I remember one night I was in the strip club,

1242
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 7: and I think I may have told you this before.

1243
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 7: You might have said it on this don't let's not.

1244
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 7: I was in the strip club one night and this

1245
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 7: young sister was like, you know what, I know you.

1246
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 7: She went to her locker and came back with a

1247
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 7: folder and the folder had all the information in it

1248
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 7: on the union that they are working to establish for

1249
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 7: strippers like these are educated people, right, so you can't

1250
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 7: leave them behind because you don't like the way they

1251
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 7: look and you don't want to go to the corners

1252
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 7: where our brothers might be because those ain't your people,

1253
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 7: and those are not the type of people. If you're

1254
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 7: only talking to my mama and people who are in

1255
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 7: the churches and people who maybe you can knock on

1256
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 7: their doing their home. Some of our people don't even

1257
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 7: have an address, so you don't even know where to

1258
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 7: find them at, which means you got to engage them

1259
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 7: on the streets. That's what's going to help the Democrats

1260
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 7: win this election. So hopefully they do that. Hopefully they

1261
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 7: don't give the money to the same people that they

1262
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 7: always give money to and instead flip this thing. If

1263
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 7: we're going to be different, let's invest in people who

1264
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 7: never I know, organizations that never get a dime and

1265
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 7: they go out and do more work than these big

1266
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 7: organizations that get millions of dollars to go out and

1267
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 7: knock on doors and engage voters.

1268
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: That's not but the reason.

1269
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 7: Why these other folks miss Susie, who lives in the

1270
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 7: project somewhere in Louisiana. The reason why she knocks on

1271
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 7: the entire communities doors is because she understands her social security,

1272
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 7: the insulin, how much she got to pay for that,

1273
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 7: her grandchildren, their survival safety, public safety policing.

1274
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: She understands those issues.

1275
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 7: So in spite of the Democratic Party, she goes out

1276
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 7: and does work that she should be getting paid for.

1277
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: She should have resources in her.

1278
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 7: Community to do, but she does it out of necessity,

1279
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 7: and they keep allowing that to be like, they keep

1280
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 7: relying on that, and it is a dangerous thing, especially

1281
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 7: in this moment where at misinformation is at an all

1282
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 7: time high. So Miss Susie might be listening to them say,

1283
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 7: you know, she don't support reparations, right, and then what

1284
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, We don't want to allow

1285
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 7: people to fall into this place of feeling hopeless. Sure,

1286
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 7: we need people to feel like, you know what, we

1287
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 7: can continue to fight because we all got to live

1288
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 7: here together. So regardless of what, it doesn't matter who

1289
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 7: becomes president, who are going to live under their policy?

1290
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: And some people are excited now.

1291
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: I had a conversation with someone the other day talking

1292
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 5: about the difference between excitement and commitment, and a lot

1293
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 5: of folks are in Some folks are excited about a

1294
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris presidency, but a lot of folks are not

1295
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 5: even excited yet. So I think part of the work

1296
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 5: is getting to all the places to raise excitement that

1297
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 5: this is something important, and not only that that it

1298
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 5: will make a difference in your life.

1299
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Speaker 6: I think it's three. Angel I agree with you. I

1300
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 6: think it's excitement, enthusiasm, contentment. But I was talking to

1301
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 6: one of my young home girls and I asked her,

1302
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 6: I said, are you excited or enthusias She said, I'm

1303
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 6: content with voting. That's deed White President Colin. I think

1304
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 6: that's a good place to be because it's one of

1305
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 6: those three, I believe.

1306
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 5: I think being content, though you're on the line and

1307
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 5: you could easily swing to I don't know about if

1308
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to do this. And we were talking about this,

1309
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 5: I think we were in Chicago at Rainbow Push Coalition

1310
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 5: office that not only do you need to vote, you

1311
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 5: need a voting plan because some people are will say

1312
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 5: they're going to vote, or they've been encouraged to vote,

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Speaker 5: but they don't have a voting plan, and a lack

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Speaker 5: of excitement will make them go in another direction on

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Speaker 5: that day. So we have to be and we know

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Speaker 5: this very granular about how we make these things happening.

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Speaker 5: Oftentimes you don't get to support from the big tent

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Speaker 5: party to fund this work because we know we got

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Speaker 5: to knock on doors. We have to talk to the folks.

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Speaker 5: Nobody cares about the individuals who are on defence or

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Speaker 5: who are behind the fence, ain't got nofense. We have

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Speaker 5: to talk to all those folks to move them in

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Speaker 5: a direction, not just because we want to see someone elected,

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Speaker 5: but because we know it will change their life and

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Speaker 5: if they don't do this, folks will die.

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Speaker 6: And she has to she has to go out there

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Speaker 6: and explain herself that everybody. She can't leave no stone

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Speaker 6: unturned because the reality is they're going to need the

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Speaker 6: largest voter turnout possible course to try to defeat voter suppression,

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Speaker 6: because do you know, try to steal.

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Speaker 4: That we are talking about. Look at that dread Scott thing.

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Speaker 7: Yes, one of the Republican Factions, which is a group

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Speaker 7: within the Republican Party saying that the dread Scott decision

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Speaker 7: would make her not able to eligible to run for president.

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Speaker 4: Because she wouldn't be a human like with three fifths.

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Speaker 7: Human basically is still what the Constitution says about us.

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Speaker 7: So it's a lot of things that need to be

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Speaker 7: worked on because that's a real like part of why

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Speaker 7: we have so much mass incarceration is because we are

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Speaker 7: seen as three fifths and the election.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting elections in America get stolen. Absolutely, this is

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Speaker 5: voter suppression. This is a key tactic.

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Speaker 1: He's got for some folks to win.

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Speaker 8: It's hit Supreme Court. Yeah, that too, His Supreme Court

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Speaker 8: is in his back pocket.

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Speaker 6: You have all of these elected of ficerals that can

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Speaker 6: refuse to certify the results of the election.

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Speaker 5: Like it's going to be crazy, which means the odds

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Speaker 5: are stacked against us. To get what we need. It

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Speaker 5: means we have to be on the ground in ways

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Speaker 5: that we never have before. But the other piece is this,

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Speaker 5: the party is going to over rely on black folks absolutely,

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Speaker 5: because black folks, black men and women come out. When

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Speaker 5: we come out, we come out in numbers that change

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Speaker 5: the election. It's happened with Obama and I think that

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Speaker 5: was a reason why they pivoted to Kamala now because

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Speaker 5: they know without black folks. They can't get it done, yea,

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Speaker 5: So they're hoping that happens.

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Speaker 4: Now I believe, well you still have.

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Speaker 7: I mean, and I think they're going to try their

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Speaker 7: best to appeal to white women who are concerned about

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Speaker 7: their reproductive rights. You know, this is very Handmaid's tail ish, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean it is.

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Speaker 4: If you watched Handmaid's Tale. If you haven't, you check

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 7: That's what we're really looking at Project twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: The feel of it is very Project twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: I mean, excuse me, the feel of it is very

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Speaker 7: Handmaid's tail ish, right, Like we're gonna have white men

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Speaker 7: basically making decisions on behalf of all women and the

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Speaker 7: white women and many times vote and help it happen.

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Speaker 4: Because that's how Handmaid's Tale went down.

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Speaker 7: The white women supported their husbands in taking over the

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Speaker 7: nation and creating a space where basically there was the slaves,

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Speaker 7: the enslaved individuals who were white, brown, and otherwise. To

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Speaker 7: these white men, they became rulers. And that's what I

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Speaker 7: hear when I'm reading Projects twenty twenty five when they

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Speaker 7: start talking about restoring the family, it's like which family,

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Speaker 7: which kind of family?

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Speaker 4: Are you speaking about, you know.

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Speaker 7: Being able to fire thousands of civil service employees who

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Speaker 7: don't support the MAGA agenda? Like this is very they're

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Speaker 7: very specific. People better read that Project twenty twenty five document.

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Speaker 7: And so there are white women who understand when the

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Speaker 7: President says a lot of folks keep saying, well, he's

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Speaker 7: saying the states have the power to make the decision

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Speaker 7: on abortion. That is the most dangerous proposition ever because

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Speaker 7: if you have a Ron DeSantis governor, imagine what will

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Speaker 7: happen to women in those states. You think these white

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Speaker 7: women are not sitting around like are we doing that?

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Speaker 7: I might not even like Kamala Harris, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: be able to go on and slip to the abortion

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Speaker 7: clinic if I need to, or go get my IVF right,

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Speaker 7: which is important for them because if you're not ready

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Speaker 7: to have children, you need another option. I have a

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Speaker 7: lot of people who have used as you know now

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Speaker 7: we're forty years old, forty four. I hear about IVF

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Speaker 7: all the time from women across the spectrum. And Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump would say, well, he doesn't support an ending IVF

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Speaker 7: or or blocking women from having that option. The problem, though,

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Speaker 7: is that when you hear the Project twenty twenty five coordinators,

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Speaker 7: they are saying, for sure, quietly, remember last week they

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Speaker 7: put out an interview where these two students went and

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Speaker 7: they changed their identity and they snuck in to get

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Speaker 7: an interview with one of the Project twenty twenty five creators,

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Speaker 7: and he basically was saying, you know, they gotta distance

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Speaker 7: themselves from us right now, but we're not worried about

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01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 7: it because we have people around him who are working

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Speaker 7: to make these things in reality, and we know we're

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Speaker 7: going to push the plan.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be I don't even want the

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Speaker 4: president where those are your friends. I don't even want

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Speaker 4: your friends.

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Speaker 7: To be the type all of people that work for

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Speaker 7: you are folks that are part of writing a document

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Speaker 7: like Project twenty twenty five. It's something wrong with you

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Speaker 7: and your people. And I don't even want to have it.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to take the chance that's okay, come

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Speaker 7: back with some new friends.

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Speaker 5: And the fact that that could be a political document

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four is outrageous, crazy, right. And I

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 5: was talking to somebody and they were explaining it or

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Speaker 5: comparing it to the twenty twenty four Willy Lynch papers,

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Speaker 5: because it's an agenda or a plan to really attack

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Speaker 5: black folks, brown folks, indigenous folks, and democracy as a whole.

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Speaker 5: That's really what the document seeks to do. It's like

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Speaker 5: it's a political document that says we're going to dismantle democracy.

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Speaker 1: And that's okay, that should be mind blowing to.

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Speaker 5: Us, but so much of us don't know exactly what's

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Speaker 5: in the document and the attack on us.

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Speaker 3: Well, how can people follow you and support you if

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Speaker 3: need be?

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Speaker 7: Well, first let me just say shout out to you,

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 7: said Willy Lynch, and so shout out to my son

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 7: who just did a response letter to the Willie Lynch letter.

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Speaker 7: And so it's on this page you can listen to.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 7: It is obviously him speaking. And you know, I think

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 7: that in this particular moment, it's going to take all

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 7: different types of people to really help make the case

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 7: for why it's not even about people and personalities, but

1441
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 7: the fact that we really do have to protect ourselves

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 7: in this country.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm all about.

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01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 7: And so if you want to follow me, and by

1445
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 7: the way, let me go back and say my book

1446
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 7: name is I Live to tell this story. The cover

1447
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 7: is amazing it's about to drop. I'm really excited about

1448
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 7: it and this book.

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Speaker 8: In the video, I love this turn to comutre around.

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Speaker 7: But this book is not political. This book is not

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 7: a political book. It is I mean, there is some

1452
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 7: political commentary you've been there. But this book is my memoir.

1453
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 7: It's about my life and that's why I say I

1454
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 7: live to tell this story and I hope that people

1455
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 7: will pick it up so that you can learn more

1456
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 7: about me outside of what you read online or even

1457
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 7: when you see me in the street. There's there's a

1458
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 7: lot of stuff about imposter syndrome and other things that

1459
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 7: I have been through in my life that have helped

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01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 7: me come to this point. So make sure you guys

1461
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 7: stay with the journey for the new book. You can

1462
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 7: go to Atamika D. Mallory on Instagram, follow us until Freedom.

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 7: We're on until freedom dot com. We're at until Freedom.

1464
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 7: And unfortunately, I'm one of those people that gets in

1465
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 7: the comments to cut your ass back out so.

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Speaker 1: Someone might talk about your mama if you talk about us.

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 7: I said it the other day. The man said you're

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01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 7: an airhead. I said, me and your mama.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well.

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Speaker 2: It's to med Mallory Angelo Pinto. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast

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Speaker 3: Club