1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: It's the show that she has the secrets of success 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by Marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And in 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know he'll 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Decision make because it's what he likes to do. It's 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: money Making Conversations. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: There we go. Good, Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Thank you sir for the intro. I'm happy to be here. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Thanksgivings coming, Christmas coming and guess what doing the live 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: show give you information that you need to know. I 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: am Rushan McDonald. This is the weekly Money Making Conversation 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Masterclass show. I am based in Atlanta, Georgia. Wanted let 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: everybody know this is something that I really appreciate Atlanta. 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: If you haven't been to this market, please come. It's 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: an amazing destination. The culture is incredible, the cost of 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: living is amazing, and I enjoyed myself of course, I 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: lived in both Texas and as well as Georgia, and 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Texas does not have a state income tax, so I 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: favorite taxes. Okay cool. The interviews and information that this 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: show provides off for everyone. It's time to stop reading 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start living your own. My 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: guest is Gordon Fikes. He's the founder of United Clinical Research, 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: is one of the only minority owned clinical trial site 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: management organizations in the United States. The goal is to 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: provide healthcare for the minority community that can be potentially 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: life changing and saving. Gordon A s Fight has twenty 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: five years of award winning pharmaceutical sales experience with many 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: popular Fortune five hundred pharmaceutical companies. Please welcome to the 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation to tell us about United Clinical Research. 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Mister Gordon Fikes, how you doing, sir? 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: I'm doing well. How are you sir? 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? Explanation? What exactly is United Clinical Research. 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: NONY Clinical Research is a site a clinical trial site 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: management company that works with pharmaceutical companies clinical resource research 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: organizations in order to specifically find my more minorities for 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: clinical trials. That's why we're in business. 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So break down a little bit more. When you 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: say you want minorities to participate in tests, or what 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: is it your trial? The word trials, what is the 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: word trials? 45 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: Good question, good good questions. So to make it simple, 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: what we want to do is there are thousands upon 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: thousands of what we call human subject research trials. Right. 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 3: The trial is a medical unapproved medication that has to 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: go through the proper testing in order for the FDA 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: to approve it. What my company does is assist those organizations, 51 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: the pharmaceutical companies we call them CROs, the clinical research organizations, 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 3: to find minorities to participate in those clinical trials. 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you do. I gotta dive a little 54 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: deeper on this, mister Fikes, because you know, you know, 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: I looked at your background, you know, in nineteen ninety four, 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: a graduate of Tuskegee University, Okay, and I'm African American black, 57 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, and when you start using the word trials, 58 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: start use word tests around black people, we get real 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: suspicious and we don't want to be bothered with that. 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Now you've started a company, I believe that. I believe 61 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: that at all my heart. Now you can tell me 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: that's why I brought you on the show to help 63 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: me and help you because we want to break down 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stereotype. Because we got to get people 65 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: to sign up for these trials in order for us 66 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: to find cures, for us to find health remedies so 67 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: our community can live longer. Because we found out doing 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: COVID a lot of things. That was the reason we 69 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: was high on the lift of people dying or people 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: succeptible took OVID nineteen was because of our diabetes, high 71 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: blood pressure, you know, weight issues and things like that. 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: And so that's what this whole world of clinical trials 73 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: was really important to talk about. 74 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: Correct. That is correct, and let me interject and tell 75 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: you that he is. The people are not wrong for 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: what we feel rightay, many of us, many of us 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: say the Tuskegee syphilis experiment, when it really should be 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: termed the civilists experiment at Tuskegee. And what happened was 79 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: there were six hundred black men in nineteen thirty two, 80 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: a portion of them did not have syphiless, and more 81 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: than half had syphiless. Ten years later, eleven years later, 82 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: in nineteen forty three, when penicillin became the common treatment 83 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: for syphilis. Guess what those more than two hundred and 84 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: fifty men that had siblists, they were not given the penicillin. Now, 85 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: that started the chain of events that lasted for forty 86 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: years until nineteen seventy two until somebody said, hey, this 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: is crazy, this has to stop. So just that grievance 88 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: alone has caused a lot of issues with due reason 89 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: in our communities. So you know, I want to tell 90 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: people that what you feel is is true. It happened, 91 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: but I'm here to talk about some things that have 92 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: been put in place to change that whole paradise. 93 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Right Because the one thing about it is, you know, 94 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: I always try to bring individuals when the show that 95 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: moved a needle, okay, United clinical research. You know, I'm 96 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: involved with a lot of programs with sickle sale. I 97 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: have a sickle cell trade and so always trying to 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: find out a cure. So you need people for clinical 99 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: research in order to be engaged. I'm not saying that's 100 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: what this is involved in right now, but I know 101 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: that's important to get people engaged to find out if 102 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: we're hitting in the right direction. Now with that being said, 103 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: because you know, because I'll be honest when I before 104 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: the interview, I called mister Fikes. I said, mister fight, 105 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: he is the lane of questions. I'm going to ask 106 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: because in my mind I want to know and I 107 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: want to make sure you're comfortable. We said we share. 108 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: Look at it, brother, I know for a fact the 109 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: question you asked God to be asked, and I'm going 110 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: to answer them because they are true. It did happen 111 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: in tuski had nothing, nothing to do with the university, 112 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Tuskegee Airmen. This happened in 113 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: the city of Tuskegee, and it gets lumped into that 114 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: whole Tuskegee world. And so you're you've come out of 115 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: here become a leader, founded this United Clinical Research. What 116 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: is the goal of United Clinical Research? 117 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: You know, I have a long term goal, but the 118 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: more immediate goal is I want to help at least 119 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: ten thousand minority individuals. Now, let me say this. I 120 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: don't discriminate, Okay, we're all one, homogeneous people, Okay, but 121 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: this company was founded on the purpose of helping minorities, 122 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: people of darker melanin people. You know, I want to 123 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: help us find medications, find studies, human subject research, studies 124 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: that can possibly save their grandparents, that could possibly save 125 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: their parents, that could save a child even you know, 126 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: I've been blessed to have the background and the knowledge 127 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: that there are there are angels who have put together 128 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: some of these medications, and people can take that for 129 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: what it's worth, but there is healing in some of 130 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: these medications, whether people want to believe it or not. 131 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: My background is in biology and chemistry, so the science 132 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: of it, I know there are science that can save lives. 133 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: And my job is to number one, show people, show 134 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: black people that look, what happened in the past cannot 135 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: possibly happen in the future. And these are the steps 136 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: that the government that we as a people have put 137 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: in place. The biggest thing is called informed consent. But 138 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: we can get into that if you want. 139 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, because I think that's important in order for people 140 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: to understand they are protected. 141 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: Now correct, correct, they are protected, And for this reason 142 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: and this reason only, I'm really moving forward and trying 143 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: to position that if you know, if your parent, if 144 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: you have a family member who has cancer, you have 145 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: a family member that has diabetes, hypertension, plaqueariasis, anything. I 146 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: want my company to be the company that you reach 147 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: out to to say hey, can you help me and 148 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: let me be let me be the person to try 149 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: to help you. 150 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, I'm talking about Gordon Fikes. He's the founder 151 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: of United Clinical Research, is the one and only minority 152 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: owned clinical trial site management organization in the United States. Now, 153 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: when you use the word help, you know because we've 154 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: been talking about trials and is help getting them into 155 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: a trial? Are there other ways you're talking about helping 156 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: people who contact you? 157 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: So you know, there's there's been a lot of people 158 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: that reach out to me and say, you know what, 159 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: I believe in some research, but other natural pathological ways 160 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: that I can get help. You know, it's my job 161 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: to say, look, here are your alternatives. Yes, there are 162 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: some people that are doing natural studies of natural homeopathic 163 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: ways of curing things. Mean I happen to know of those. 164 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: My job is to provide you with choices. That's all 165 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: I can do and let you make your informed decision 166 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: on what you want to do. So that's what I 167 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: want to do, and for the next year, I want 168 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: to help at least ten thousand people who reach those goals. 169 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: Right now, they just broke this down, mister Fike's you 170 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: know the number ten thousand. Where did that number come from? Why? 171 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: Ten thousand? 172 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: You know there is I'm gonna be honest with you, 173 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: that number popped up. You know, I was really thinking 174 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: about this interview and some of the goals that I've 175 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: set for the company's no particularly, I really should have said, 176 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: I want to help as many people as possible. But 177 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: me knowing this, if I can hit that number, then 178 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: I would have done. I would have exceeded my own 179 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: expectation of how many people that I can help with 180 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: this process. 181 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: Now, the thing that is like, if you're being interviewed 182 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: on my show and I'm happy it syndicates on the 183 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: twenty HBCU Campus series x M one forty two, you 184 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: know it drops on my podcasts. So I'm giving you 185 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: a platform to educate people about the United Clinical Research. 186 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: How can one reach you? And is their website? Yes? 187 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: First of all, the website is under construction. However, if 188 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: you reach out to me directly on all social media 189 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: platforms on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and you can reach me 190 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: by Gordon fights g O R D O N y 191 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: k E s. If you reach out to me directly, 192 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: I will make sure that my people will will help 193 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: anyone that reaches out to me. 194 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Now, but at the time, you now, this is an event. 195 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, my degree is in mathematics, and so sure 196 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: you know biology, well versed in that, the sciences, well 197 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: versed in that. How does one based I know, I said, 198 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: twenty five years you've been in the pharmaceutical award winner 199 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: in the pharmaceutical field and sales and experience. But how 200 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: does one become a founder of a United clinical research 201 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: that company? Well, how did that happen? 202 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: You know? So seven years ago I had the privilege 203 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: of working at my alma mater as a program director 204 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: under the tutor legit mentorship of doctor Ruben Warren. And 205 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: it was during this time that we actually worked with 206 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: a pharmaceutical company on a project that looked at increasing 207 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: minority participation in minority individuals. This was seven years ago 208 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: before the FDA stepped in and started making different mandates 209 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 3: that said two pharmaceutical companies that look, you're going to 210 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: have to increase your number. So seven years ago doing 211 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: this work, I realized that there was an opportunity. And 212 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: then April of twenty twenty two, I read some information 213 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: from the FDA that said, hey, you know, this is not. 214 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: This is no longer a suggestion, This is an op 215 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: This is something you all are going to have to do. 216 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: And mister McDonald, let me tell you. When the FDA 217 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: says that is something you're going to have to do, 218 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: that means if you don't do it, it's going to 219 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: affect your bottom line, meaning that there is a possibility 220 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: that some medications may not get approved because you didn't 221 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: test an appropriate number of minorities in the trials. 222 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely correct. I'm talking to Gordon Fikes, he's the founder 223 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: of United Clinical Research. We were right back to you 224 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: more about the whole process. You know, he has an 225 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: event we talk about a Memphis, Tennessee where he was 226 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: attempted to break a world record for screening blood pressure 227 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: and an eight hour time perioy. That and more when 228 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: you come back on clinical trials in America done by 229 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: United Clinical Research. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. 230 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: This is your host with Sean McDonald. I've been speaking 231 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: to Gordon Fightights, he's the founder of United Clinical Research 232 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: and clinical trials. You know, we talked about stereotypes, rumors, 233 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: urban legends that oftentimes stops black people from participating all minorities, 234 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to watch the word minority because 235 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: now white women are considered minorities, and so a lot 236 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: of people don't know that, and so that word has 237 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: been allowed to be engaged in different relationships. But before 238 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: we go in there further, I have a phone call 239 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that I want to go to right now, Beverly from Decatur. 240 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: How are you doing, Beverly? 241 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 242 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: I'm well, how are you? Miss mac donald? 243 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class. You're on the 244 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: phone where Gordon Fikes, the founder of United Clinical Research. 245 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: What is your question? 246 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: My question is, if you you have blacks that are 247 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: willing to participate in these clinical trials, how can we 248 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: be assured that we are actually given the correct medicine 249 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: and we're not being given up placipo or or some 250 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: arbitrary medicine. 251 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: So that there is one thing that you can do 252 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: is once you find out that there is a possible 253 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: trial for you, the very first question you should ask 254 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: is will I be given to study drug? And based 255 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: on the answer of that, if you get an answer 256 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: that says you know it's possible or no, then at 257 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: that point you have to make a decision on whether 258 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: or not you want to, you know, be a part 259 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: of that clinical trial. But that should be one of 260 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: the first questions that you ask any anyone that's offering, 261 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, such a research. Twelve four years. 262 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,479 Speaker 1: Now, Beverly, based on your question, would you consider participating 263 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: in a clinical trial? 264 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: Well, you know, actually, unfortunately I was streating with COVID 265 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one. I want to believe, and 266 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: I was given the when I was because I was 267 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: admitted into the hospital and I was administered the rem 268 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: DECA there I think that's how you pronounce it. Yeah, 269 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: and uh, you know, and that was what they told 270 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: me that I was being given. And you know, eventually 271 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: I got better over a month or so. But I 272 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: still had my concerns if it was the actual medicine 273 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: they said it was, you know, based on our history 274 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: with you know, medicine or science and research. 275 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what we was talking about, you know, 276 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: it was talking about that history that rumors because they 277 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: are true in the community and mister Fis has to 278 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: fight against that. And I just want to ask you 279 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: an honest question, Beverly. Thank you for calling Money Making 280 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: Conversation master Class. You know, when you hear these, we 281 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: can say the word urban legends. What drives you not 282 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: to trust? What drives you in your mindset? I can't 283 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: feel comfortable participating, so it can help us get there, 284 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: so we can get more African Americans. Guess what this 285 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: is all about? African Americans? We say to my word 286 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: minority really is about African Americans? 287 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: What? 288 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: What? What? 289 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: What engages you to say yes or no as a participant. 290 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 4: Well, just some of the you know, some of the 291 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 4: stories we've read in the news, uh, you know, in 292 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: our history, the one that you use for an example, 293 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: the Tuskegee Toskegee study, and then that was and then 294 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: we just kept the we're just in the dark so 295 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: much about our medicine. But I can't even and I 296 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: can't think of the lady's name, but she played a 297 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: major role in cancer. I think the Harvard took some 298 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: of it was either John. 299 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: Read Yeah, so. 300 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: Her blood and all of this coming out so many, 301 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: you know, decades later. 302 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: There's just. 303 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 4: There's just quite a bit of history that leads me 304 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 4: to feel that way. And you know, and it's sad 305 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: because I know there are trials out that it could be, 306 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: you know, quite beneficial to us, but if we're scared 307 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: to use them, you know, how we ever know if 308 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: we and even sometimes my own doctors, Uh, I'm faced 309 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: with something now. I've been going to see the same 310 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: doctor for so many years and knows my history, you know, 311 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: backwards and forth. But I've been stricken with something that 312 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 4: I'm dealing with now right that should have been and. 313 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: Dealt with absolutely that happened to me, you know, with 314 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: my cancer discovery. You know my doctor, mister, and the 315 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: person who's doing my blood test is the one who 316 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: found it. And it was a doctor I was going 317 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: to over at least ten years, and I think there 318 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: was the casual relationship we had created that allowed him 319 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: to just you know, walking in door, sit down, ask 320 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: me about my life, ask me how I've been doing, 321 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: and then walk right back out there. It was the 322 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: same thing with my dinnists. So I think that what 323 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: mister Fike said earlier, asking the right question, making sure 324 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: you don't make assumptions, and make sure that whatever how 325 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: they respond, you're comfortable with. If the response doesn't allow 326 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: you to be comfortable, ask another question. If it leads 327 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: to them going shrugging their shoulders or going you can 328 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: do this if if you want to, then get up 329 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: and get out. And that is and that's the bottom line, and. 330 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 4: Usual that's what I do. Because I'm seeing three specialists 331 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: now about my well, I've gone to three and I 332 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: wanted to make sure I wanted to not double with 333 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: triple check that my eyes are being treated for what 334 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: is the actual diagnosis because of the lack I guess 335 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: the lackadaisical relationship like you said you had with your dog. 336 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, you know some Beverly, and I tell you 337 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: to everybody, and I want to thank you for calling 338 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: the show, is that the bottom line is all tied 339 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: to you and what you feel you have to do 340 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: and want to do. There are a lot of people 341 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: walking around here just like Beverly, don't want to make 342 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: the phone call, got ideas. I'm not gonna be bothered 343 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: with that. There are a lot of people who lost 344 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: their lives during COVID because they didn't want to wear 345 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: a mask, They didn't want to be they didn't want 346 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: to be involved in that situation. So my whole purpose 347 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: of bringing mister Fikes on the show, and you know, 348 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: I called him before the show. I said you I 349 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: told something said brother it's some urban legends out there 350 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: that just working against your dreams. That number of ten 351 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: thousand sounds good, but there's an uphill can But I said, 352 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: look here, I want to be a champion for you, 353 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: because if I can't convince you, if I can't help 354 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: you get there, then guess what somebody else needs to 355 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: step in and help you. But each one is a 356 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: leg up. It's a leg up. It's like climbing the ladder. 357 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: You can't climb the ladder unless you take one step 358 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: at the time. Now you can try to jump some steps, 359 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: and most time you jump some steps in the ladder, 360 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna fall off and hurt yourself. And so we're 361 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: not trying to hurt anybody. This show is an honest show. 362 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: We're inviting people to call on. And plus I wanted 363 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: to open up mister Fikes's eyes to the community too 364 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: so he can hear and go, oh, Rashan you it 365 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: really is out there, because you know we can hear. 366 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: But she the community just called in. She Beverly is community, 367 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: she's neighborhood and those same type far But also what 368 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I heard in Beverly is that I try, I do, 369 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: and that's all you want, right, mister Fikes. 370 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. And here's something for both anyone listening. 371 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: I didn't share this with you earlier, mister McDonald, Miss Beverly. 372 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: The motto for United Critical Research is trust worthiness must 373 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: precede trust. So what does that mean? It's not so 374 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: for so long. The pharmaceuticals, even some doctors say, well, 375 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: those people should trust us. Now, if you walk in 376 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 3: an office and you don't feel like whoever you are 377 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: working with is trust worthy, walk out. We have to 378 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: show that we're trustworthy before you exhibit trust in anything. 379 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: And I want anybody to know that we have to 380 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: show that we're trustworthy before you trust. So I want 381 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 3: everybody to remember that. 382 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh I've got a few minutes left, but I want 383 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: to make sure I talk about your Memphis vent that's 384 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: coming up. I believe, well, you want to break a 385 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: world record for screening blood pressure in an eight hour 386 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: time period. Now, you know blood pressure, that's serious. And 387 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: whenever I go to a doctor, they take my blood pressure. 388 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm on blood pressure peels okay, And so 389 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: every morning I get up, I take my blood pressure pel. Again. 390 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people, a lot of people don't understand 391 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: the power, and the blood pressure really is a silent killer. 392 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people you hear stuff like, oh, 393 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: he looks so good. I was just talking to him 394 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: the other day. I saw him in church. He was 395 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: running and jogging and playing basketball. Well, see that's what 396 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: blood pressure will allow you to do until you keep 397 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: consistently hitting that number. And so my blood pressure pills 398 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: forced me to change my diet but also allows me 399 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: to live a normal life. But if I act stupid, 400 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm mean, use the word stupid and stop taking that pill. 401 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Guess what I'd be one of those stories you hear about, Well, 402 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: we shall look so good. You know, I was just 403 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: eating with him, I saw him and go in the coreer, 404 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: what's wrong? What happened? And so so now you're in 405 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: Memphis trying to break a record. Tell us about this, 406 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: and I want to wish you great luck on on 407 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: on doing it, but tell us about the bigger picture 408 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: and when is this happening? 409 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: All right? Eighth No February second four. You've got the 410 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: clinical research along with the music Moves You. Foundation has 411 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: a title sponsor America of Tennessee, who has said, you 412 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: know what this is something great for the Memphis community. 413 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: And along with the Memphis Grizzlies, the basketball team, we're 414 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: gonna try to break the world record of twenty six thousand, 415 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 3: seven hundred and forty four people were tested in India? 416 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: Did you hear what I said India? A few years back? 417 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: I talked about this earlier this. 418 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Now, what was that number? 419 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: Again? 420 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: One more time, sir? What was that number? 421 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six thousand, seven hundred and forty four people. 422 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, you know you're in Memphis. 423 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 3: Now. 424 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: Memphis is not a big city. Now. Now, if you 425 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: told me you was coming down here and doing it 426 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, you know, Houston, or even New York because 427 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: you can probably get them out of all the boroughs. 428 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: But you're in Memphis trying to break a record right now. 429 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know. You really pushing it, 430 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: my friend, You've really pushing it. 431 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: But I respect. Let's make it simple, though. 432 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Let's make it simple, Okay. 433 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't know the census population, yes, sir, I would. 434 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: I would assume there's at least twenty two hundred and 435 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: seventy thousand black folks. 436 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: Yes it is, Yes, it is, Yes, it is at 437 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: least that yes, it is. 438 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: If I can't get ten percent of that population, sir, 439 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: to test their blood pressure, I'm not doing something that 440 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: none of us are doing. 441 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: I tell you what we do. What's that date, February. 442 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: What's that date? 443 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: February, February second. 444 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, this is what we're gonna do, mister Fikes. 445 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: You know New Year's Resolution, that's what that's what people do, 446 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: turn loose, think about their health. Blood pressure. So we're 447 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna bring you back on the show the Tuesday before 448 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: that event. That could. That's a deal. 449 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 3: That's what. 450 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: That's the deal, because you gonna need help now. I'm 451 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: just telling you gonna need help now. I know you 452 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: try to get ten percent, but you gotta get them. 453 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: You gotta get some people coming from Nashville drive up 454 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: to last You're gonna need to help, my friend, and 455 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm wondering to help you out. More importantly, I want 456 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: to thank you for allowing me to have an honest 457 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: conversation with the community about what you're trying to do. 458 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: Because what you're trying to do needs to get done. 459 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: And I'm speaking to the founder of the United Clinical 460 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Research He's the one and only minority clinical trial site 461 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: management organization in the United States. Gordon Fikes, thank you 462 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass and we will 463 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: see you the first Tuesday before your event, February second. 464 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: Okay, hey, I appreciate you, Sir, I appreciate it. 465 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: Stays strong. 466 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 467 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with rough Shan 468 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: McDonald is produced by thirty eight to fifteen Media Inc. 469 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: More information about thirty eight to fifteen Media Inc. Is 470 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: available at thirty eight to fifteen media dot com. 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