1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I've always wondered, like, what's the deal with ah Soca? 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Because George Lucas swapped the s and the h Ashoka 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: was a man. But I'm so fascinated. Was he just 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: did he just like the name of Shoka and then 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: he was like, let me mix it up and swap 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: some of the letters and make it into a Soca. 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Thanks for listening. This is the Pod 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: of Rebellion, and this is Taylor Gray, Ezra Bridger Spector 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: six here, and with me, we've got Hi. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: It's Tia sur Car voice of Sabine Wren Spectrum five. 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: And along with us we have Hey, what's up everybody. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: It's Vanessa Marshall Harrison Doula, the voice thereof and I 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: am a Specter two. 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: And we also have with us everybody, it's your friendly 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: neighborhood moderator John Lee Brodie, and today we are going 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: over season two episode eight, Blood Sisters. Here we go, 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: blood Sisters. 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: Blood Sister's gnarly for a name should be for your 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: other podcast, John, I. 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 4: Know that's true blood Sisters and that was pretty scary. 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, there we go a little cross 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: promotion action there, how is everybody. I'm excited for this 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: episode because we had a very Hara heavy episode this 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: last week and we knew very little to nothing about 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: Sabine's backstorm. We get a little bit this week, so 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: I'm excited for. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: This episode me too, all. 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 4: Right, So I think that's a great perfect segue into 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: let's recap this thing and let's unpack the things. I 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 4: would love to hear some of the behind the scenes stuff, 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: but first, as always, let's do the recap. So as 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: you know, Season two, Episode eight, Blood Sisters of original 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: air date November eighteenth, twenty fifteen. What seems like a 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: simple enough task for Sabine, Azra and Shopper to meet 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: a courier and were set a code phrase turns out 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: to be anything but because it's never that simple. Despite 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: trying multiple line deliveries of the code phrase, this courier 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: is nowhere in sight because it's hiding in plain sight 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: in the form of a gonk droid name EG eighty six. 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: The mission takes a complicated term when Sabine's past life 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: comes face to face with her in the form of 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: Cats who own You, a bounty hunter that plays by 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 4: her own rules who walks a pass Sabine once did. 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: This is far from a friendly reunion, though a full 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: on shootout right out of a john Ford Western occur 46 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: storm troperts crashed a party, and Sabina Cats whu have 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: all the complexities of one time friends that have turned 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: rivals that Sophocles himself would have a field day dissecting. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: The battle continues upwards in the space where it looks 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: like it'll be a fight to the finish, but when 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: the Empire decides to enter the chat, the two fierce 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: competitors put their animosy on hold and become the embodiment 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: of an ancient fourth century proverb and Aristotle's friendship of utility. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 4: When the two badasses shift their focus to taking down 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: the Empire instead of each other, and in a moment 56 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 4: where it seems like Kets would fall into her old 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 4: ways and leaves Sabin behind, she doesn't. The bounty hunters, 58 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: apparently a suonent of stoicism, and realizes that virtue outweighs 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: external short term gains. They not only defeed the Empire 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: in this battle, but Cats, who slightly to redeems a 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: pass betrayal against her one time partner in crime. By 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: the end, Sabine Katsu come do an understanding, and part 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: of the understanding is Katsu has their mercenary path and 64 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 4: Sabine has her purpose with the rebellion and her chosen family. 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: The two, like the Journey Song, go through separate ways, 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: but seemingly with the door open for another crossover in 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: the future. And that is the recap for season two, 68 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: Episode eight, Blood Sisters. 69 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent work, very philosophy heavy recap because. 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: It's a very philosophy heavy episode. I felt like with 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: these two, so thoughts everybody initial thoughts, What's what's going 72 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: through your mind as we revisit this episode. 73 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to find out more about Sabine's backstory, 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: of course, but I also love that you start saying 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: hang on, which is kind of prosphrase, which to me 76 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: embodies how much more we rely on you. You've taken 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: more of a leadership position, so you now lead the 78 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: drinking game for hang On. 79 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: And at least for this episode. 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for that so well. 81 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Note to your point right, like at the top of 82 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: the episode when Harah says if it was when she 83 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: tells Sabine if it was easy, I'd send someone else. 84 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: I thought really was so heartening to me, like just 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: that things have come a long way since episode one 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: in what episode was that where you know, I'm like 87 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: desperate to know, like who's folkrum and what's the deal? 88 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: And I need you to tell me more? And I 89 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, and you're like book book up, let's just 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: pump the brakes there, young one. And I feel like 91 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: things you know that she's she's matured, their relationship has matured, 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and your trust or Haarah's trust in Sabine has grown, 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: And I just thought it was really like a lovely 94 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: moment and I think really encouraging for Sabine. And I 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: also thought that Ezra like ling on and off was 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: so cute. Absolutely, I know, and I'm like your backup, 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, when they're like walking down. 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: Cursor precursor to that, it kind of them up for like, yeah, 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: you're kind of a. 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 5: Loner me and you're a loan and then you're la alone, 101 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 5: then you're not listening anymore. 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then and then and then he says, wait, 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: you were a bounty hunter. That explains a lot whish 104 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: by the way, like what a uh, I know that 105 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: this was a long time ago when this episode aired, 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: but like who knew? Who would have thunk? I mean, 107 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: I guess it does explain a lot but plot twist 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: that Sabine was a bounty hunter, and I think that 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: that just sort of goes to show, you know, I know, 110 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: for everyone listening that has seen the whole show and knows, 111 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, a lot more having watched you know, future seasons, 112 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: knows more about Sabine's backstory and family, et cetera. The 113 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: bounty hunter thing. I mean that was like a total surprise, 114 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: and I think that who she is now and you know, 115 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: being a part of the Ghost crew and committing to 116 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: the journey that we are on or that they are on, 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and uh, setting all of those sort of uh I 118 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: guess interests aside is like that's a that's a big swing. 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, to go like same same for 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: Ezra obviously being like a lone wolf and uh. 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 6: Space street rat I guess to use a Latin terminology, 122 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 6: but yeah, going from like bounty hunter to to being 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 6: part of this this crew that's like sacrificing everything or 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 6: willing to sacrifice everything for the good of. 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: The rebellion is pretty incredible. And that wasn't something I 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: was prepared for, you know. 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: Surprise love that. So I remember when we first started 128 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: this podcast, and you had told us, Tia that at 129 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: the time of recording that David told you that Sabine 130 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: was at that point the least thought out character in 131 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: terms of backstory. So now we're going to peel back 132 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: that curtain a little bit. At this point, had you 133 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: been given any information prior to this or was this 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: like the first time you actually got a glimpse of 135 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: her backstory and you started to fill in those blanks. 136 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: The latter, I don't know. Sorry, let me just interject quickly. 137 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe if I said that I perhaps misspoke. 138 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that she was the least fleshed out 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: character as far as backstory, because knowing Dave like he 140 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: probably I mean, who knows, he probably had that idea 141 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: about her family maybe figured out. But I just meant, 142 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: like personality wise, characteristics wise, I think she that was 143 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: my understanding at the time that she had she was 144 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: sort of the least fleshed out or maybe it's maybe 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: it's all of it. Maybe he hadn't quite like figured 146 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: her out yet as far as like plot points, and 147 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: you know her history, but also like kind of who 148 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: she was and how she was. But yeah, no, I'm 149 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure I didn't know any of the stuff that 150 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: we learned later. I did not know until later. So this, 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: this kind of learning about this part of her past 152 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: was total news to me, and I would have found 153 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: out right before we got this, like right before we 154 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: actually recorded this this episode. 155 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: It goes back to it, Well, that goes back to 156 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: what you would tell me, like it was always a 157 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: need to know basis and oftentimes you know you did 158 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: to know. I would imagine, and this is why I'm 159 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: excited to see the episodes after this, because I would imagine, 160 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: now you having this information, that's going to be something 161 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 4: that you can take into the future episodes, which makes 162 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: this a really cool teetering point terms of how Sabine's 163 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: going to shape up in future episodes. 164 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Totally, and I mean it definitely colors your I mean 165 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: not colors like to say in a bad way, but 166 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: just sort of gives you gives gave me more information 167 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: about this otherwise kind of I don't know, mercurial character. 168 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: I guess not mercurial, that's maybe not fair, but like 169 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, she she there's so much mystery to her 170 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: and where she came from and who she was before 171 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: all of this, and so to learn about this part 172 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: of her past was so interesting. And also this relationship 173 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: with Ketsu and you know, we get to learn about 174 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: some of their exploits and it all sounds quite you know, 175 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: it's all very titillating and intriguing. And also, uh, Gina Torres, right, 176 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: what a badass. She's such a bad Do you remember 177 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: her coming into the studio? Do you guys remember her 178 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: recording with us? She is such a presence from the 179 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: fact that she's like one full foot taller than me. 180 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: She's just so like, she's just the perfect person to 181 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: play this character. She's so poised and like not intimidating 182 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: in a negative sense, but just like she's she's a badass. 183 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 184 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: And I just thought that her performance as Katsu is 185 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: so is really great and that she was the perfect 186 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: person to play that role. 187 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: I remember her coming in. I had worked on a 188 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: DC animated movie where I played wonder Woman and she 189 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: was super Woman and we sort of duked it out. 190 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: Dwayne McDuffie, another great writer, was called Crisis on two Earths, 191 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: and so I had met her doing that, and we 192 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: had gone to Comic Con to promote it, and I 193 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: was always just sort of it. It was nice to 194 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: be near her presence in sort of the same way. 195 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: But when she came in and slayed in this one, 196 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: it was just it was really an honor to be 197 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: near her again. Taylor, do you remember her coming in. 198 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: In the hot seat? She was incredible, honestly my favorite guest. 199 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Taylor, do you know who we're talking about? 200 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: She comes from the planet of mandalor. 201 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: No, have you seen Suits? Have you watched My goodness? Well, 202 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: she's amazing in that show too too. 203 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 204 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: In my first recap, I make a Suit's reference because 205 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: I said hair is like badass, like Jessica Pearson. And 206 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: then funny enough, now we're here and just his full circle. 207 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I have a quick up. Sorry, I'm already 208 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: into the questions. 209 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 7: Is that? 210 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a quick question, and I feel like 211 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: y'all some of y'all probably know the answer. Taylor will 212 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: know for sure. Okay, So since we're talking about that 213 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: like corridor scene when when as just you let you 214 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: be alone and then sometimes you say I want to 215 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: be alone and all that, and she stops and she 216 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: sees the graffiti and she like goes and sort of 217 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: checks it out, I wondered, And then I don't think 218 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: it was answered unless I missed it in the late 219 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the episode is that katsu Ono's tag 220 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: or is that like a mark that she leaves? And 221 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: so when Sibbin's like, what was that? Does anyone idea, Oh, oh, 222 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because like we never get 223 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: we never it's never answered later, right unless I just 224 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: completely missed. 225 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know. They don't really as 226 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: far as I know, put any clarity on it. But 227 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: the way I looked at it is because some being's 228 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: an artist, and Katsu's obviously an artist. It's just like 229 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: martial artists can tell someone else's style by the way 230 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: they move, and I feel like, I don't know, if 231 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 4: it's a particular like that's her symbol, it could very 232 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,479 Speaker 4: well be. I looked at it as a being recognized 233 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: the style as far as like how was sprayed on, Like, oh, 234 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: I know, I know the person that makes markets like. 235 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: So she so her seeing that is her being tipped 236 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: off to the fact that Keatsu's here. 237 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think typically when there's tags like that. 238 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: It's like marking your territory. I was here first, and 239 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: the way I interpreted it was because we didn't get 240 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: the explanation at the end. I was like, she must 241 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: have recognized the style of which it was put on 242 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: there as, oh, I know I know who that is 243 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: because I was You've seen it firsthand. But that's just 244 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: my hypothesis. I could be completely off. I like it, 245 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: I like. 246 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: It, I share it. Yeah. Also, her fight sequence was 247 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: so rad like when she's fighting the Stormtroopers and she's 248 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: got like that whatever that weapon is, and she's taking 249 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: people out left and right. 250 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: She's so cool and her ship is so cool too, 251 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: that that that ship that she has, so she has 252 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: all like the cool so she's basically like how uh 253 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: it's like Cobra Kai. It's like, you know, they're like 254 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: the bad Dojo, but like they have all the cooler uniforms. 255 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: They yeah, yeah Dojo. 256 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: She's got the shadow Caster cast that's right. 257 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: What a what a great name for a ship. And 258 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: she's got like violet eyes, like electric violet eyes, like 259 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: what what what a what a badass? 260 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 7: Yeah? 261 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: Very fitting for Gina Taurus to voice a badass character. 262 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: Like that, and if anybody ever watched Firefly, she was 263 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: very much like a mercenary type on that show too, 264 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: So it all like ties together with like for the 265 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: sci fi world, it's all very on brand, if you will. 266 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: What an interesting way to get type casts like, oh 267 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: what do you what do you tend to play? 268 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: Oh? 269 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Mercenaries? No badass is one thing, but so specifically mercenary. Yeah. 270 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: I thought for a second, this is I couldn't remember 271 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: when she's like little sister. I was like, wait, are 272 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: they relate? But that's just because they grew up. They 273 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: went to the Academy together and they've known each other 274 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: since they were young, right, So how much younger do 275 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: you think she is? 276 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 7: There? 277 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh? I mean at this point what Sabine was sixteen 278 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: when we meet her, so she's probably like what seventeen 279 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: now seventeen eighteen? And so I would say like, I think, okay, 280 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: this is based on just vibes, I think she's like 281 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: ten years older. Does that sound I don't know, Yeah, 282 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: I was five. 283 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know because I was like, could you be 284 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: at the Academy at that much of a Oh? 285 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Sure, right? Would an eight year old and an eighteen 286 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: year old be in the same. 287 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: I would be a little scared about that. 288 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, maybe she's maybe she's not twenty eight, maybe 289 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: she or twenty seven, maybe she's like twenty four, twenty three, 290 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: twenty four. 291 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: I feel like they would reach some havoc though they 292 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: gotten they would. 293 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: Crush Also, yes, I agree. I also just think it's 294 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: so cool to watch these women. I think I talked 295 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: about this a little bit last episode and with regard 296 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: to Hara, and I just like, oh, what a cool 297 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: episode to get to see these two women also two 298 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: women of color. Uh just growing that out there again, 299 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: like completely these like sorry to independent women but meaning 300 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: like self reliant and uh super duper sharp capable, uh 301 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, like weapon wielding, storm trooper ass beating chicks 302 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: that are you know, have this kind of colorful past 303 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: as bounty hunters, and they're so young like these are 304 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: these are young women, and I just think it's really 305 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: cool to get to see that, and to get to 306 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: see that they are like foes and and maybe frenemies, 307 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: and then they are able to like move past that 308 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: and work together for a greater good like these are 309 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: all just it's again like that Star Wars thing of 310 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: like lessons to be learned, but we don't have to 311 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: like talk about it or like really drive that, you know, 312 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: message home. It's just you just get to see it 313 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: and you take it for what it's worth. And I 314 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: really appreciate that in this episode and the. 315 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 4: Last absolutely I feel like go ahead to her. 316 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: Oh no, I agree with that. 317 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: What I see with Sabine and Katsu is like, again, 318 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: we got a glimpse of Sabine's past life, and I 319 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: feel like her past life, her normal was these sort 320 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: of transactional friendships, and I feel like that's how Keatsu 321 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: operates now. It's like it's the means to an end. 322 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: If this person's gonna help me get this money, cool, 323 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: you're my friend in this moment, but then peace out. 324 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: That's it. Whereas now Sabine's in a place where she 325 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: found she has her found family, and she has real 326 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: friendships that aren't transactional, and that's where you see the 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: dichotomy between the two. And I think that's enlightening for 328 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: Ketshu to see that, like oh wow, like that does exist, 329 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 4: even though it's almost like it's a survival tactic for 330 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: Ketshu to keep going the way she's going. But again, 331 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: they don't beat you over the head with the philosophical stuff, 332 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: but the writing's all there on the wall. And I 333 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: just thought that dynamic, which obviously I didn't catch onto 334 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: that when I first watched this ten years ago, but 335 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: watching it now, being a little more well read and 336 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: with my curious brain and everything, I was like, oh, wow, 337 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: like they're really showing Sometimes we get called these transactional 338 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: friendships that aren't really friendships, and then when you get 339 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: the real friendship, it seems very strange because that wasn't 340 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 4: your normal. And I feel like now Sabine understands, like, oh, 341 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: this is my normal. Just like the episode where we 342 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: had Ezra with Hondo, It's like, yeah, that was kind 343 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: of me before, but this is where I am now. 344 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: This was like Sabine's moment to kind of see her 345 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: shadow self and see where she is now. I just 346 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: thought that was really great for the character development. 347 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: John. I feel like you've about like forgiveness before, like 348 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: the idea of forgiveness and the importance of forgiveness, and 349 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: I thought that was a really touching moment and like 350 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: another indication or beautiful illustration of how far Sabine has come. 351 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: But she still has a ways to go, you know. 352 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: But and we see that luckily in the next use 353 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: over the next few seasons. But just that she in 354 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: that moment says, what does she say, I forgive you 355 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: for leaving me for Dad? Is that? Am I? Is 356 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: that what she says? I might be making that up, 357 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: jac I didn't write down that which what exactly she says, 358 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: but that she chooses in that moment, Kats who's not 359 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: asking for forgiveness? 360 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 7: That's it. 361 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: I don't think forgiveness is even on her mind. She 362 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, because she's not in a position or she 363 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't deal with people that would even 364 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: that that would even come up, right, Like everything's transactional, 365 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: as you said. So I just thought that was a 366 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: really nice moment and just illustrative of how of where 367 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: Sabine is in her journey and maturation. Sounds like a 368 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: bottle of wine, you know what I mean. 369 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: I thought that droid with the purple head or the 370 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: whatever flying that, which is one of the funniest characters 371 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: we've had, who was that? I know, they're killing this, 372 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: It's like, I'm laughing. I had no idea what that was. Also, 373 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: now that I'm seeing this trend. So many names mean something. J. C. Keats, 374 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: I've got ideas you have. 375 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 6: You have? 376 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: Where does that come from? I feel like now every 377 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: name that they introduce has some sort of I don't know, 378 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: tied to something, whether it be sentimental or just fun. 379 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: A thing or person are fun trivial? Yeah, why wouldn't 380 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: you if you're gonna name it. There's so many characters 381 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: you're writing these shows, why wouldn't you, I guess. 382 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you have ideas about Kitts's name just. 383 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: Off of what the word is? 384 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Which one? 385 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: Katsu? And I mean, they're not right. I was just like, 386 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: what it made? What it sounds like? You mean calamaria? 387 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's going to be a fish? 388 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Like, what's Arthur? What's an Arthur pod? Am I making 389 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: that up? 390 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: Is that a squid? 391 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm making it up. You guys keep talking. 392 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: No, but you're right then nothing's ever by accident, seems. 393 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: Like listen to me about Wow, couldn't have possibly been farther? 394 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 7: Wait? 395 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: What are what are those? 396 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 8: Gold? 397 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Arthur pods? Are invertebrate animals? Have heard exosukeletons kind of 398 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: like spiders and crabs. Oh, Okay, we. 399 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: Crabs, hold on close the squid. 400 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I wasn't completely insane, just a little bit, all right, 401 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: keep please continue. 402 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm curious too. I would like to. 403 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: I think it'd be interesting to hear a breakdown of 404 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: like the Core Specters, why they named each of them 405 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: what they named them, you know what I mean, because 406 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a reason for that, like each name 407 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: connecting to something regarding their character arc. And I know 408 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: the Azure one because I've heard Dave say, I like 409 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: the Bridger and whatnot. But I'm curious what they all 410 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: wait to symbolize. 411 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Well haarrah, I mean mythology. Why is that? Probably makes sense? 412 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: Like mother goddess and. 413 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: Ahsoka I've heard too, isn't ah Soka it's a goddess? 414 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: Well know? So Ashokahoka was an emperor uh an Indian 415 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: emperor from centuries ago. So I actually don't know. I 416 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: bet JC knows this, But like I've always wondered, like, 417 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: what's the deal with a Soca because he's he George 418 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Lucas swapped the s and the h Ashoka was a 419 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: man and like a much beloved mighty emperor. And if 420 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: you look at India's flag. There's a wheel like a 421 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: a wheel in the middle, and I should probably google 422 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Myogle Google what I'm saying is true. But that's his 423 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: that's his hold on. Let me just y'all throw a 424 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: lot of things down here by the way. Calm squidter molluscs. 425 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, okay, very good. 426 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 427 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Pod I was thinking of, I said Arthur Pott, and 428 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking of Cephalo Pot and I just looked 429 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: it up. Sounds like it's got to be that. Yes, squids, 430 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: there you go. 431 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: Okay, mystery you salved. We're good. We're good. So JAC 432 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: one less thing, uh for you to the fact check on. 433 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: But I would I would be keen to hear about 434 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: ketsu Ono and origin of that name. I do believe 435 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: in the light research I do before this because the 436 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 4: only reason I do light research because we have the 437 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: ultimate cheek code in JC, who can fill in and 438 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 4: answer certain questions that come up. But I've I believe, 439 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: and again, JC, you can correct me if I am 440 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 4: off by any means, But I believe the ship we 441 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: have talked about, the shadow Caster, was originally Venturess's ship. 442 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: That wasn't you so then they got to use that 443 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: design to be Ketsu ship. I think it's something like 444 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: that and the light research that I did prior to this, 445 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: which also is fitting because Venturous and I know that's 446 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 4: your buddy Vanessa and a Venturess is one of the 447 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 4: other badasses of the Star Wars like Lore, How fitting 448 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: is it to that unused design for ventures to ship 449 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 4: would be passed on the Keatsu I love it? 450 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh good, No, it's not important. Really, everything's important. 451 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 9: What do you mean for anyone that was on the 452 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 9: edge of their seat? That is a Shoka's chakra. 453 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Chakra means wheel or circle, and it's like in the 454 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: middle of the Indian flag and it depicts like the 455 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: wheel of law or the wheel of life. And so 456 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm right about some things, I'm not always wrong. 457 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's very important. I'm glad that we didn't that 458 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: you didn't hold off on that. 459 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: But I'm so fascinating. Was he just did he just 460 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: like the name of Shoka and then he was like, 461 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: let me mix it up and swap some of the 462 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: letters and make it into Ahsoka or was there something 463 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: about Ashoka the person the the emperor who that he 464 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just curious. I should have probably looked 465 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: this up a long time ago, but that wouldn't have 466 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: been as much fun as asking JC, so see me now, 467 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: I didn't. 468 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I sometimes feel that there's this, you know they 469 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: talk about, like the universal consciousness. Sometimes I'll be writing 470 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: things and then I'll see the name exactly a name 471 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 3: that I came up with it. I thought, like, no 472 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: one's ever used this name before, and then I see 473 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 3: it in a TV show, and I feel like the 474 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: collective unconscious. I believe that that maybe there's some natural 475 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: power and magnetism to what you just said that drew 476 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 3: him unwittingly to that. I have no idea, and I 477 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: cannot wait to find out. But what I was going 478 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 3: to say is shout out to Chopper in outer space 479 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: killing it, you know, basically dismantling a ship. You know, 480 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: he kind of he's right, he gets it together and 481 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: then you know, fires up and goes right over and 482 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: like ruins her. 483 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: I love it. And at first he waves just a 484 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: little cheerful wave, covers. 485 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: His eyes might in that movie Gravity when he's moving 486 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: through uh space. 487 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like that, such. 488 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: Me, just like George Clone. 489 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that could have been catastrophic. I'm 490 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 5: really glad you avoided being sucked down into space. But 491 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 5: luckily Chopper could handle it. That was bananas. He not 492 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: only handled it, but he writed the course of your 493 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: your plans there. 494 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool. 495 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: Did anyone else? 496 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 7: Okay? 497 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: I realized that this is like not real life and 498 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: it's fiction. But like when the when the door blows 499 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: off or gets blasted off, are we worried about like pressure? 500 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: I literally all my notes of that. It's been taking 501 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: everything me to not go here in the conversation I 502 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: googled last night, I was like, Okay, how does it 503 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: work with breathing in space? Because also then at times 504 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: they're in space and they're not wearing a helmet, Like, 505 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: have we just defied? 506 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: Yes? 507 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: What I read on Reddit is that they're like, it's 508 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: Star Wars. They don't care, got Jedi can hold their 509 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: breath And I'm like, hold their breath they're talking. I 510 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: don't know it goes yeah, but all my notes are 511 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: like when the door's got open, it's like, it's not 512 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: regard for the part where my brain's going, you know 513 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: what I mean? 514 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I think I suppose we're just meant to 515 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: suspend our sense of reality, right, I mean in that 516 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: we're also in outer space and there's Mom Kalamaris and 517 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: you know whatever. 518 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: Telling me it's not real. 519 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's a really nice story. That's enjoy well. 520 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: Star Wars they're going to bend those rules, just like 521 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: technically sounds shouldn't exist in space, but we're hearing the 522 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: blasters going in space. But Star Trek is a little more. 523 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: They take a little more literally in that sense. So 524 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 4: I just think it's proprietary towards the rules of stars. 525 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: It's the best sance rect But I give but jac 526 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: Will trying to give a better answer. 527 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: That was great. 528 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 529 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 10: Also sorry, no, I was just gonna say, I'll accept that. 530 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 10: I'm curious the EG eighty six is that the droid 531 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 10: on the plane? 532 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: Was that? 533 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: Because I wrote down EG eighty six and I think 534 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: that was the droid is I'm curious if there's some 535 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: significance there. 536 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: I was thinking about that too, and I was like, 537 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: is that a not the EG daily our buddy? But 538 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it is. It might be because she's 539 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: a legend and she's you know, Tommy Pickles and the 540 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: voice of like everything like you are Venosa, but I 541 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: don't know. It's like because this was me. I went 542 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: through a whole wormhole thinking about this last night because 543 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: I was like, this whole thing's hiding a plane sight. 544 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: The least likely person is the keeper of is the courier. 545 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: And as you know, eighty six means to like get 546 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: rid of something. I was like, are we getting rid 547 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: of conspicuousy? 548 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: So? 549 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: And this is the example of getting rid of conspicuoucy 550 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: because EG is example of so is that what this means? Like, 551 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: it's an example of hiding in plain sight? The least 552 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: likely person is the person. That's where my brain went 553 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: last night. I don't know there's any bearying here, but 554 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: that's where it went. 555 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 7: Wow, okay, or it's the e G. 556 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: Daily I don't know, Well. 557 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 558 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted to ask JC because I figured he 559 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: would probably know sort of where that came from, what 560 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: it could be in reference to. 561 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: But I think so too, you know what, And I 562 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: think I'll leave these two things and then we'll just 563 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: hand it off to JC, because I think at that 564 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: point the show today the whole Black Sunk connection and 565 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: this episode is a whole further like ups my demand 566 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: and wishes for us a Rebels prequel, because how cool 567 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: to be to see like a Black Sun prequel story 568 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: like anthology and the being when they were bounty hunters together. 569 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: On their exploits. That would be yeah. 570 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: And then the code phrase it's a long way to 571 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: alder On, because as we know, this is all setting 572 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: up to episode four to and or to rogue one. 573 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: Alldruan's being established because that is such a full point 574 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: as we know, tragically and a new hope. But now 575 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: the seed is being planted here, which I thought was 576 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: you know, as you know, it's all part of a 577 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: much bigger story and this is where they're planning that seed. 578 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: So those are the last two things I wanted to 579 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 4: point out before we hand the football off, if you will, 580 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: to our fact checker, the answers to the name Jase. 581 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 8: Jason, Okay, how do we want to go? 582 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: You have the floor for the rest show, my friend? 583 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 8: Okay, I actually I don't have all that much. I 584 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 8: want to shout out. The pilot of the. 585 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 7: Ship, the transport ship is. 586 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 8: Rextroid like from Star Tours, originally voiced by Paul Rubins 587 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 8: Pee Wee Herman. I believe in this episode those voice 588 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 8: by Stephen Stanton we've mentioned several times on the side 589 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 8: of that shuttle. 590 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 7: I was like, oh, what does that say? 591 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 8: It says Starbus, Like I thought it might be a 592 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 8: Star Tours reference of some sort, just a Starbus on it. 593 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 8: The mark on the wall, Tia. I took that just 594 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 8: exactly is how you described it. It tips her off 595 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 8: to who they're going to encounter later. John, you mentioned 596 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 8: black Sun. Black Sun is everywhere in Star Wars Now. 597 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 8: I feel like it's it's mentioned in like every single 598 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 8: everything at this point. But if you want the non 599 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 8: canonical origin of Black Sun, go back and there's a 600 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 8: comic book series, video game, soundtrack, and novel from nineteen 601 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 8: ninety seven called Shadows of the Empire, which is the 602 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 8: origins of that entire thing that has been built out 603 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 8: into a giant, giant thing in Star Wars Now. Also, 604 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 8: you guys like, how cool would it be to see 605 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 8: like their prequel mission There is a Darth Maul show 606 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 8: cartoon coming out that it takes place I believe when 607 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 8: he's head of the crime Syndicates of the Galaxy. So 608 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 8: maybe we do get to see that because he. 609 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 7: Dies in Rebels, so that it would have to be 610 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 7: a prequel to. 611 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: See what I'm kid. 612 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 8: We talked about ages of characters, so season two of 613 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 8: Star Wars Rebels takes place about three years before the 614 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 8: Battle of Yavn. Sabine was born twenty years before the 615 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 8: Battle of Yavon. Ketsu Anyo was born twenty three years 616 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 8: before the Battle of Yavon, which would put Ketsu at 617 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 8: twenty and Sabine around eighteen. Let's go into the name 618 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 8: ketsu Anyo. Yes, Ketsu by itself in Japanese means but 619 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 8: like bu t t but which somebody pointed out, Well, 620 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 8: maybe that makes sense because she's an ass in the episode. However, 621 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 8: you go a little bit deeper. If you represent keetsu 622 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 8: as a set of symbols in Japanese, it can mean blood. 623 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 8: Like the name of the episode. Blood does not mean 624 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 8: anything but on yo o and y r means is 625 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 8: a vengeful spirit or ghost. So it's close there. John, 626 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 8: you mentioned the ship Ventures had the same class of ship. 627 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 8: I don't think it was the same specific ship, but 628 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 8: it was the same model of ship, which I don't 629 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 8: have that off the top of my head. That disappeared 630 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 8: while I was going deep on a Shoka Oka, et cetera, 631 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 8: et cetera. So I have some law on that, and 632 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 8: then I have some common sense on that. The common 633 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 8: sense on that is, why do you change the name 634 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 8: from Ashoka to Ahsoka? Because you cannot trademark the name 635 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 8: of an Indian emperor, but you can trademark the name 636 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 8: Ahsoka if you change the spelling. But if we want 637 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 8: to go the other direction, the original name of the 638 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 8: character was Ashla Ashla, which George Lucas changed to Ashoka 639 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 8: after the Indian emperor. Henry Gilroy apparently is the one 640 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 8: who changed the spelling. According to Lare, the interesting thing 641 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 8: about Ashla is that Ashla was the small Ta Gruda 642 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 8: Jedi in Star Wars episode two that's in the training 643 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 8: room with Fyoda, which. 644 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: They were going to try and connect it. 645 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 8: I think that they may have been trying to connect 646 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 8: it because episode two came out in two thousand and two, 647 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 8: Clone Wars came out in two thousand and eight. Interesting, 648 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 8: so something interesting there. I don't have any more information 649 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 8: on it, but if anybody wants to go searching down 650 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 8: the Ashla rabbit hole, you might be able to find 651 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 8: something there. And the last thing, I have people in space, 652 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 8: which famously we watched Princess Leiah survive in space in 653 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 8: Star Wars The Last Jedi, but we also saw Peter 654 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 8: Quill in Guardians of the Galaxy survive in space. So 655 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 8: a long time ago when Guardians of the Galaxy came out, 656 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 8: I did a deep dive on like this is dumb, 657 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 8: how could this happen? And I learned that skin human 658 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 8: skin is actually a really good protector, Like you wouldn't 659 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 8: blow up, like your skin would keep you in even 660 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 8: with the pressure changes. The biggest thing would be you'd 661 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 8: be freezing and like pressure in your lungs would get 662 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 8: like your lungs would collapse. However, Sabine has her helmet on, 663 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 8: which should have like a magnetic containment field around the 664 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 8: bottom of it that comes on similar to the way 665 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 8: like a docking bay is open to space, but there's 666 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 8: like an invisible layer that covers it, like when the 667 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 8: Millenium Falcon goes into. 668 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 7: The Disk Star. 669 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 8: So I believe that Sabine would be okay there. I 670 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 8: don't have an explanation for Princess Leigh in the last job. 671 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 4: Nobody does. 672 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: Anything on the eighty six or not. 673 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 8: I took a look on EJ EG eighty six and 674 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 8: and it's probably another one of those things that's a 675 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 8: reference to like somebody's kid or something like that that 676 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 8: is too deep of a dive for for us to find. 677 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody that was born in nineteen eighty. 678 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 7: Six, that was That's what I guess. 679 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: So very informative. Thank you as always. 680 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 4: We need a custom graphic like the More You Know 681 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 4: a thing from NBC, but like retrofitted to our podcast, 682 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: and it's like for JC though, like every time you 683 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: come on. Yeah, so anyone out there, because we have 684 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 4: a lot of Every Friday we feature somebody on our 685 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 4: Instagram the featured fan Friday. We've seen a lot of 686 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 4: talent out there, people making animations, people making fan art. 687 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: If somebody wants to make a JC version of The 688 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 4: More You Know for the Potter Rebellion, the door is 689 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: open and we will one percent feature it here on 690 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 4: our show. But uh, well that's all jc's got. That's 691 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 4: all we got for today. We'll be back next week 692 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 4: as always, and we thank you all as always for 693 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 4: tuning in and I think the four of you as always, 694 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 4: uh for being you. 695 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: But John, well, thank you, thank you, John. 696 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 4: And and go longhorns, right, yes, hook of morns. 697 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: Finally, somebody with some sense. 698 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 4: We're right on your heels as we record this and 699 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 4: and in our rankings, which I know is uh is 700 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: our controversial topic, but I know I'm. 701 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 2: Going to go back and listen to some old episodes 702 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 2: and just judge. 703 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: You guys are doing great. I'm really happy for you. 704 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 4: We are doing great. And you know it's we're just 705 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: getting started with this season and this is not favorite time. 706 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: Excuse it is no, it's just it's just what it is. 707 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 4: It's an excuse, that's the reason. Whatever we want to 708 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: call it. 709 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 5: UH. 710 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 4: And I think in one of our future episodes we 711 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: should do the football equivalents of y'all's characters. Maybe we'll 712 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 4: do it as a collective. I know when we did 713 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: the bast Home and we went one by one, but 714 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 4: maybe just as like a as a group and as 715 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: part of maybe the fact check here with you JC, 716 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: we can all collectively go okay, Haarra is this and 717 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 4: beings this and Ezra's this and this is that would 718 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: be I think that would be a fun little group activity. 719 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 4: I am yeah, because teamwork makes the dream work, as 720 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 4: they say, I don't know who coined that, but jac 721 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 4: would know. 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