1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Um, we're back for the Official Jets podcast. Eric Allen 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: in the studio with Jets Defense Alignments Solomon Thomas were 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: joined as always by the Mad Backer, Bart Scott. This 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: is a very special occasion, Solomon, World Mental Health Day. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: When you hear that phrase, what do you think of? 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: When I think of World Mental Health Day? You know, 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the recognition and acknowledgement of you know, 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: just mental health in general, Like it's not something that 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: we all used to talk about. Is something that's taken 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: a lot of um, you know, research, a lot of time, 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: a lot of vulnerable stories from people to get to 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a point where we can talk about it, and we 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: can talk about it in and the realness that it is, 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: like how serious mental health is, and how we're all 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: inevitably gonna inevitably going to be affected by mental health 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: in our lifetime, and how it's important to treat it 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: as such as as you know, treated as uh, you know, 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: mental challenges and illnesses as you know, a disease just 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: like anything else. And how you know it's people you know, 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: needing help and getting help and taking the courage and 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: strength to do that. And you know, so when I 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: hear oral a munch of health. It's I feel of 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, all the people who have sacrificed and told 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: their vulnerable stories and and came out and spoke um 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: and let them know like how much are struggling. And 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: you know how it's gotten us to this day we're 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: knowledge and mental health. And I think it's huge when 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: you think about mental health and you know what it 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: means to redefine what it means to be a man, 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, especially from our perspective being professional athletes, be 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: we always project that we're Superman, but we spend a 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: lot more time being Clark Kenton we do being Superman. 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: So kind of can you speak to like how the 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: narrative may be changing in the locker room where men 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: can feel like they can be vulnerable and really express 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, their their weaknesses or their concerns and I 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: don't even want to say weaknesses or let's just say 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: their vulnerabilities and where they're at in the mental space. 39 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: And how has the locker room changed in the in 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the NFL as a whole, you know, done when it 41 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: comes to addressing mental health and allowing a safe space. Yeah, 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: I think like if you hit in the head, like 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: it's huge, Like, you know, we spend more time being 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Clark kind we do um, you know Superman, and you know, 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: most importantly to acknoledge that we're human beings, that we 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: can't always have this persona, that we're gladiators, that we 47 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: um can tell everything out, that we can rub down 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: on it like hey, like you know, we're human beings 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: and we go through human emotions and feelings like and 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: as men, it's okay to feel those. It's okay to 51 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, be sad, it's okay to be depressed, it's 52 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: okay to be anxious, and we just have to find 53 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: ways to cope with that and combat that and and 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and find ways to get better and get through it 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: and just understand its men that it's okay for us 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: to talk. It's okay for us to you know, trust someone, 57 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: to have a safe place and be like, hey, I'm 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: not doing well, like and I need to talk to you, 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: or hey, I'm not doing well. Do you know some 60 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: of what can maybe get help and to get through 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: this hard time and going through you know, we're not 62 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: taught to deal with the ups and downs of life 63 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: and diversity and the emotions. We're not giving the language 64 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: to describe it. And there's so much pressure from men 65 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: to you know, be you know, just straight and and 66 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: tough and just to get through it. Um, you know. 67 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: But in the reality, we're all gonna go through, you know, 68 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: the ups and downs in life and the motions we 69 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: claim that are bad, like you know, being sad, depressed, 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, awkward, angry, all those things, and we don't 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: teach each other how to how to deal with them. 72 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: And so I think in the NFL locker room, it's 73 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: gotten a lot better and it's improved, and um, you know, 74 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: guys are talking, Guys are telling their stories, you know. Um, 75 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: you know A J. Brown, you know myself, you know, 76 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: Dari Slenard, Um, Darren Walker, you know, Max Crosby. There's 77 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: so many names now that are speaking out and talking 78 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: about mental health and the struggles that they've been through. 79 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: And it's really open the fore for a lot of 80 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: guys just to be human and take that step back 81 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and not be Superman for a moment and just be 82 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Clark Ken and be like, hey, you know, I'm human. 83 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: This NFL life is a lot there's a lot of pressures, 84 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a lot of expectations, and you know, it's tough and 85 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm going through a hard time. You know. 86 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: I think we've allowed and open that space for players. 87 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: I think that's been huge and I hope it saves lives, 88 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: and I hope it teaches, you know, us men that 89 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: are in this like gladiator space too, you know, show 90 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: other people like hey, like hey, we're in this big 91 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: space and we're supposed to be strong, tough men, but 92 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: we can be sensitive to and we can get help, 93 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: and we can go therapy, and we can meditate, and 94 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: we can journal and it's okay for us as men 95 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: to do that. And I hope we teach that to 96 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: our sons and our teammates and our friends. And I 97 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: think that this space is really changing, I think, and 98 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I hope it continues to change. Can you share your 99 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: vulnerable story with us in our audience, because four years 100 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: ago your family's life changed forever. Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, 101 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll definitely share it. You know, Uh, An eighteen, I 102 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: lost my big sister, Elidis suicide, and um, it completely 103 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: through and shocked my family's rolled upside down. Like, uh, 104 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about mental health, you know, I 105 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: just lost my to just suicide and it was something 106 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: that people didn't talk about. It was like this taboo 107 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: thing that like you couldn't talk about. People would, you know, 108 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: say sorry if you're lost, but they wouldn't address how 109 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: my sister Ella died. And you know, as you could 110 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: feel the stigma around it, it was like it was 111 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: this burden. It was this you know, this thing that 112 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't really touch on. And you know then that 113 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: affected me personally with in my grief process of losing 114 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: my sister. Um. You know, she's the most important person 115 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: to me. Were extremely close and I just lost her, 116 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: and you know, you go through all the all the 117 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: feelings of losing from someone by suicide, which is a guilt, overthinking, 118 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: you know, just and just missing them and being depressed 119 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: and just you know, missing that person. And you know, 120 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: I was I was the third pick in the draft 121 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: in thousand seventeen, and I was going through pressures of 122 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, not performing and and all this stuff, and 123 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't come out and talk about 124 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: my sister or my own struggles because I felt like 125 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: people would they say that I'm using as a as 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: an excuse and I'm being weak, and so I suppressed 127 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: my emotions. I didn't talk about how how hard I was, 128 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: how hard a life I was living, how how dark 129 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: it was, or how much I needed help, and I 130 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't get help, and I kept suppressing them, and I 131 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: got to a really dark place where I didn't want 132 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: to really want to be here anymore. It was hard 133 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: to wake up, it was hard to go to work, 134 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: it was hard to hard to see the light in 135 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: the day. Like I was just really struggling. And then, 136 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, I was approached by my boss of the 137 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Tom John Lynch, and gave me that permission to get help. 138 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I finally started getting help. I learned 139 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: how to cope with my emotions. I learned how to um, 140 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: you know, handle them in certain ways or and and 141 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: to honor my anger and to honor my sadness and 142 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: honor my depression. And and you know, I learned different 143 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: coping mechanisms where there was meditation or journaling or you know, 144 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: just having a safe place and talking to someone. And 145 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, I was just throwing in this world of 146 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: mental health, and and I got a lot better. And 147 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I just I just learned from it, 148 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: and I took my experience and now I try to 149 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: go talk about my own journey, my sister's journey, and 150 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: what I've learned about mental health to everyone. You know, 151 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to make sure people know 152 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: it's okay not to be okay, Like it's okay to 153 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: be angry, so okay to be sad, it's okay to 154 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: be depressed, like you're not broken, Like things will get 155 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: better and there's help out there. And you know, the 156 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: strength isn't in being silent. The strength isn't in like 157 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: toughing things out. The strength isn't being vulnerable. The strength 158 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: isn't talking and asking and get help, because that takes 159 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: way more courage and strength than it is to be 160 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: silent and to actually everything's okay. Um. You know, I'm 161 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: just trying to go out there and then let people 162 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: know that so they can be free and they can 163 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: get help and they can they can, um, you know, 164 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: take steps into getting better. When when you think about 165 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, you've been on both sides of a rocky 166 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: loss of love, one to suicidey you contemplated yourself. You 167 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: know a lot of time, you know, we we put 168 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a lot of guilt on ourselves. I've lost a close 169 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: friend or close loved one to suicide as well, and 170 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you feel like you had you didn't recognize the signs 171 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: or the or the signals of how did you miss it? Right? 172 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: So when you think about you know, when you do 173 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: wellness checks on your friends? So what are some things 174 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: that you think you should do as far as when 175 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: you ask them if they're okay? How how deep you 176 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 1: you cry? And you know, also can you just speak 177 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: on some you know, some tools that you can use, 178 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: some services that you can reach out to if you 179 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: if you may not have the just in case or 180 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: some mechanisms just in case people that're watching this don't 181 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: have the strength to check themselves in and talk to 182 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: a professional, but maybe they can take some type of 183 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: cool that you have, rather's meditation and be able to 184 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: apply that to their lives and maybe you know, build 185 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: up the strength and the courage and one day, you know, 186 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: calls on one definitely and you know, personally, like I 187 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: I text a few group group chat with my friends 188 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: from college and high school, and like maybe once every month, 189 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: once every two months, I'll just said, hey, mental health check. 190 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Like you don't have to talk in the chat. You 191 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: can text me individually. You can text anyone individually. I'm 192 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: just open the space for you to say something and 193 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: talk and um, you know that's one way I do it. 194 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: But just a day to day just when you're asking 195 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: someone how they're doing, like you mean it, like and 196 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: follow up with the question like how are you doing? 197 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Like they'll might give you just a good or fine 198 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. They'd be like, how are you doing? Really? 199 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: And like try to just like see like you know, 200 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: if they're struggling or if if everything's okay, that they 201 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: might be fine. But if they're not okay to be like, Hey, 202 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: I may not know what to say to whatever is 203 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: going on in your life, but I'm here to listen 204 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: and I'm here to just be here for you and 205 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: be a safe place. Like those small conversations can really 206 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: save someone's life, and they can really change change how 207 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: someone's feeling and let someone know that, hey, I don't 208 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: feel alone right now. I feel like I can talk 209 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: to someone. I feel like I can Maybe this encourage 210 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: me to get help. Maybe this encouraged me to open up. Um, 211 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, like there's uh, I think a new service 212 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: has just happened. That's It's amazing. Is the nine at 213 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: a suicide uh, preventing the National Suicide Hotline. Now, Um, 214 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: it's like a nine on one but for mental health. 215 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: And I would say that's that's amazing. Christ. Situations where 216 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: you know you're really worried about a loved one and 217 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: or or a friend or even someone you just met, 218 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: but like you know that, hey, this is a situation 219 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: is very serious for need to attend to it right now. 220 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: Now the new ninetate UH hotline is is unbelievable, and 221 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: it's great that you know, we finally have that past. Um. 222 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: But I also like for meditation, I use something called headspace, 223 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, guide of meditation. Um. It just you know, 224 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm a guy who's always my life's always busy, it's 225 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: always on the go, it's always intense, and to get 226 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: out of that, I just meditate so I can just 227 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: slow down and be present and be be wherever I 228 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: am at the time, and just like let life calm 229 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: down a little bit. Um. You know, Like I said, 230 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: journaling is always great. You know I'm overthinking. I like 231 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: to get my thoughts out of my head on the paper. Um. 232 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: But you know, besides that, you know, just like I 233 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: think therapy is a great tool. Um. You know, there's 234 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: a lot of different resources for it, Um, but I 235 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: think therapy is just, you know, a great way to 236 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: teach us how to deal with our emotions, a great 237 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: way to teach us how to cope, a great way 238 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: to where we can just talk. And it's not a 239 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: re actionary resource to use. It's preventinary. It's like you 240 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: should use therapy to to just to make sure you're 241 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: in check with yourself. You know what's going on with yourself, 242 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: you know how to deal with yourself. You can just 243 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: talk about life like like you know, it's essentially having 244 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: a life coach, um, and then you can just use 245 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that and just be be fresh and free from a 246 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: day to day basis. Or Yeah, what do you want 247 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: people to know about your sister? Ella? Um? I have 248 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: two sisters reading over your story and how close you 249 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: were it is so incredibly heartbreaking, But also what do 250 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: you want to do with your life in her honor? Yeah? 251 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: You know my sister, you know, she's someone who lit 252 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: up a room, like she came in, laughed, smiled, and 253 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: she lit up the room and she just made everyone 254 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: feel so important. Like you could be in a room 255 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: with a hundred of people, but you were in the 256 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: room with Ella, um, and you were talking to her, 257 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: she made you feel like you're the only person that room. 258 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: She may be peeling, and she made you feel important. 259 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: She made she validated your feelings and emotions. And I 260 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: just want to bring that to people. I want to 261 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: make sure people like when I'm with them, I want 262 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: to be present with them. I want to show them 263 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: that they are important. This is this is anyone else. Um. 264 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: You want to make sure just people feel that validation 265 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: around them. Um. You know, when my sister was was 266 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: ahead of her time, Like when people asked her how 267 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: she was doing, she would tell them she would be like, hey, 268 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: like I'm pretty anxious right now and I'm I'm having 269 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: a bad day. And back when she used to do that, 270 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: like people really didn't know how to react. They be like, WHOA, 271 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: Like they'll kind of pushed back from her because you know, 272 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: they felt like, you know, she was giving them a burden. 273 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: But she she wasn't asking them to feel bad for her. 274 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: She wasn't asking them. She was just telling them how 275 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: how she was doing. And I think, you know that's 276 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: something we need to do more in the society, is 277 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: like when we're not doing okay, like letting people know 278 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: and having that strength and vulnerability that my sister had. 279 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I just want to share her story. 280 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: I want to live the way she lived by making 281 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: people feel important, by just you know, being present and 282 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: every every day to day life and and fighting like 283 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: she did. You know, she she struggled with anxiety and 284 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: depression and she was diagnosed with both and you know, 285 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: she came out and she fought every day. Um, and 286 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: you know she fought till the end. And you know 287 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I missed her every day. But you know I want 288 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: to keep living for her and keep keep changing lives 289 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: for her. I'll tell you what what she wants through 290 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: in college, nobody ever should have to go through. Um. 291 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: How much do you and your family still talk about 292 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: her situation how she tried to deal with it? And 293 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: then also how much do you guys work together for 294 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: each other? Yeah, you know, we talked about her situation 295 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: like kind of kind of more in these situations when 296 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking to people and we're sharing, like 297 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, about like her anxiety and depression and how 298 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: it all started coming together and we learned about it 299 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: through her life and we learned how to deal with 300 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: it and um and just like you know, things we 301 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: could have done better, things we learned after she passed away, 302 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: and um, you know all that kind of stuff. Uh um, 303 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: But what was the second half of the question. It was, well, 304 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: how how much do you guys continually be there for 305 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: each other in terms of a support system, because uh, 306 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: I think your life will never be the same, but 307 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: you have to find a way to live definitely. Yeah, yeah, 308 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I know, like our life has forever changed and will 309 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: forever be missing Ellen and forever had the whole of 310 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: dismissing Ella. But you know, we've we've learned how to 311 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: whatever first died, we didn't know how to cry in 312 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: front of each other because we knew how we do 313 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: how much I do, how much my mom was struggling, 314 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: I know how much my dad was hurting. I know 315 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: how much myself was hurting too, And I didn't want 316 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: to make them feel any more hurt than they already 317 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: were feeling. And so we were afraid of crying from 318 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: each other. Um, nobody learned how to do that. Um, 319 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what There was one instance 320 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: that you know that we all we all think set 321 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: it off. But after we learned how to cry together. Like, 322 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: we learned how to ask each other how you're doing. 323 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: We learned how to like, you know, really just incorporate 324 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: like you know, those checkups and like being like because 325 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: when I will cry with my mom about it or 326 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: cry with my dad about it, we all felt better 327 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: because we're releasing these emotions and releasing these feelings about 328 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: missing Ella, and we all felt the same way about it. 329 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: We were hurting, we were we were depressed about we're 330 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: struggling with with missing her UM. And so it wasn't 331 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: like just uh, from the jump, we weren't just all 332 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: on top of that. But then we learned, through the 333 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: process of in aur on all of our own struggles 334 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: against mental health, to be there for each other and 335 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: check upon each other. And now we have a foundation together, 336 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: and you know, we're constantly checking up on each other, 337 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: and we're constantly like because this work is not easy, 338 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: it's hard work, and and you know it's hard to 339 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: always be vulnerable and talk about you know, the hard 340 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: things going on in your life, UM, and so we 341 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: constantly have to check upon each other and like, hey, 342 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: like we're going around talking about all the story and 343 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: some days it's harder than others talking about Ella. Some 344 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: days you know, it's it's a little easier, but um, 345 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, we've learned how to be there for each 346 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: other and be a good support system for each other. 347 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Can you talk about the foundation? Yeah, yeah, so, um, 348 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, my family, my mom, dad, and my cousin 349 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: Ray and myself. We started the foundation the Defensive Line, 350 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: where a mission is to end the epidemic of use suicide, 351 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: especially young people of color, by transforming the way we 352 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: connect and communicate over mental health. And so what we're 353 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: doing is we're going into schools, businesses, sports programs, and 354 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: we we have these programs we're teaching an mentor of 355 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: youth or any mentor of like a coworker or a teammate, 356 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: and we're teaching them how to have a better mental 357 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: health environment, how to have the language to talk about 358 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: mental health, how to address warning signs about mental health, 359 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: or when someone struggling, what to do in christ situations. Um, 360 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: and we're just we're teaching them, you know, these things 361 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: because they're not something that you know, they have to 362 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: go through. They have to learn, but they need to 363 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: learn because everyone's gonna struggle, and especially in these groups 364 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: in schools and sports programs. There's pressure, there's anxiety, there's 365 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: there's expectations, and people are gonna struggle and we need 366 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: to learn how to make make a way for everyone 367 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: to have a safe place and feel free. UM. We've 368 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: been going around, you know, We've spoken at Stanford University, 369 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: UM uh at the football program. We've spoken at Baylor 370 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: to all the student athletes. You know, my parents have 371 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: got a day in Ohio. We've we're going all over 372 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: and we're going in in in high school is going 373 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: in um. You know, we've done bet MGM in Vegas. 374 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: You know. When we're just trying to continue to this 375 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: change the narrative and mental health and have this education 376 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: to people, have you know, a plan when something goes 377 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: wrong in the classroom or or work, and they know 378 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: what to say to someone and they know how to 379 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: address it or they know what you're doing when something 380 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: goes really wrong. It's a christ situation. And so that's 381 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: what we've been doing and we're excited about the work 382 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: and we want to continue doing it and continue to 383 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: change the world and save lives. When you talk about 384 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, mental health and you talk about how can 385 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: we you know, take it to the next level. I think, 386 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's not as tabboy as it used to be. 387 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: You'll have a niece that's bipolar. Um you talk about 388 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: the youth, and you know, since the you know, the 389 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: boom of social media, we've seen more children creating, committing 390 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: suicide some you know on you know, Facebook and you 391 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: know digital platforms. You know, how important is it that 392 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: we get into the elementary schools and give these kids 393 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: a opportunity because you talk about cyber bullying, and it 394 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: may not seem like it's something that it's too tough 395 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: for us, but you know, we're losing children because of 396 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: cyber bullying and you know, things happening on the internet. 397 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: How do we want like, you know what, what what 398 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: can we do from a government program UM funding type 399 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: of um angle to be able to get into some 400 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: of these schools and do some early prevention on the 401 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: bullying aspect, but also on the mental aspect for kids 402 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: that are not you know, hit their teenage years. Yeah, 403 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: and I don't have the perfect answer to the question, 404 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: but you know, I think it's funding is a huge thing. 405 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, have more funding for mental health programs and schools, 406 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: whether that's having you know, uh, you know, like we 407 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: have a team colinicition here, or like having something like 408 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: that at schools, or um, you know, having you know, 409 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: more staff members for mental health situations on schools, or 410 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, having more programming like you know, the defensive 411 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: lines doing and just having to be a requirement or 412 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: part of the curriculum to make sure that hey, teachers, jenitors, 413 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, coaches principles, they all have to go through 414 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: it so they all can you know, handle these situations 415 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: and create a better mental health environment for the elementary 416 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: school kids or for the middle school kids, the high 417 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: school kids. Um, you know, and you hit a lot 418 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: of hard things, like social media has been hard, really 419 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: hard on our kids. There's so much out there and 420 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: and and like the cyber bulling is crazy, and um, 421 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely something needs to be addressed. And 422 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, there needs to be more and more rules 423 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: and regulations on that as well. You know, we need 424 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: to protect our kids and um, you know, saved them 425 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: from you know, some of the things that are going on. 426 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Solomon Bart always talks about how you guys are small fraternity. 427 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: Not a lot of people play in the National Football League. 428 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: How much have you been embraced by your brothers by 429 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: coming out and sharing your story and your vulnerabilities and 430 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: talking about your sister and what your family has dealt 431 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: with and continues to deal with you. I've gotten some 432 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: amazing support from you know, my NFL brothers. You know, 433 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: back in San fran when I first started speaking, you know, 434 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: my teammate said, they loved on me a lot um. 435 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: You know, when I wrote a letter, wrote an article, 436 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: they would they would come and say, hey, like you 437 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: know that, let me know that they read it, or 438 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: or say like, hey, I'm here a few dogs, like 439 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: how you doing? Like that kind of stuff, And that 440 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: carried on in Vegas, like I had a lot of 441 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: a lot of cool mental health situations and connections in 442 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: vague gets with teammates, you know, teammates asking hey, where 443 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: do I get help? Or teammates talking talking to me 444 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: about my story like how did you get help? Or 445 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff, And you know, it's been 446 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: really cool to see like each place I've gone and 447 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: have different situations where you know, guys have been vulnerable 448 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: with me and or they know my story so they 449 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: aren't vulnerable with me, and I'm vulnerable back and like 450 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: we had this this cool connection. I think you know, 451 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: the fraternity is is has had my back and I 452 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: want to have there. So I want to continue to, 453 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, preach this because I know they might may 454 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: not be going through it right now, but at some 455 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: point in life they will. So I want to make 456 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: sure they have the knowledge and the resources to to 457 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: to handle situations when they come. If you could talk 458 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: to to the Morris Smith and you know, I know, 459 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: like right now we get like eight I believe eight 460 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: free sessions with a therapist that you know are insurance 461 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: some signal will pay for you know, if you could 462 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: talk to the Morris Smith. You know, John Abraham came 463 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: out about his mental health struggles. I believe a week 464 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: or so cod he made those public. Uh, if you 465 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: can talk to the Morris Smith, what would you tell him? 466 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: His need it for current players and post players to 467 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: make sure that we don't have any stories um like 468 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Junior say out continue to repeat themselves in our fraternity. Yeah, 469 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's been it's been a devastating off season 470 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the last this last year in the NFL. You know 471 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: we've lost you know it's not just been by SUICIDEY 472 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: just been by a lot of you know, a lot, 473 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways of death. And and it's 474 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: been I think we have like those three current players 475 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: and maybe five five former players. I knew about that. 476 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: I saw him the headlines is offseason. UM, and I think, 477 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: you know the top of the eight free sessions, but 478 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: I think I think we need more than that. I 479 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: think we need more than eight free sessions. We need, um, 480 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, a stable therapist. You know, we're moving around 481 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: so much, we can't we have to change therapists when 482 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: we're in different states, so you know, whether it's you know, 483 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: different you know, online therapy where we can you know, 484 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: have a current therapist wherever we go. Um. But also 485 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: just like you know, constant check ins, like you know, 486 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: we we have to move, teams, have to move cities, 487 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: have to move our family. You know, it's really hard 488 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: and the pressure adds up. In this stress adds up. 489 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: So you know, more check ins are more more kind 490 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: of mental health help and having more present a building. 491 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: I think I think that's huge. Um. But yeah, I 492 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: definitely think you know, encouraging guys to talk and letting 493 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: guys know the resources we have available, and then having 494 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: more recess available and more sessions available to I think 495 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: that's a huge thing to do. How old are you 496 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: right now and you've already played with three professional teams 497 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: and you're talking about moves and people don't even think 498 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: about this. This is one thing Barton and I've always 499 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: talked about throughout the years. A lot of fans look 500 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: get you on Sunday and say, these guys are robots, 501 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, and they just the jersey's changed and we'll 502 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: rotate them through. But you guys deal with a lot 503 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: of things just like anybody does. You got to find 504 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: the proper doctor. You've got to find the proper schools. 505 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: Uh if you have kids, um, and you get uprooted 506 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: quite a bit and your professional wise, Yeah, I know 507 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: that you get to move for the drop of a dime, 508 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: like whether you're training, whether you're released, h you sign 509 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: with the different team in the offseason, Like you have 510 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: to move your family, move, move all your stuff. It's 511 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: it's a hard process. Like you know, and make new 512 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: friends and maybe you don't know if the new friends 513 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: are even gonna be here, Like it's it's a constant 514 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: kind of stress that goes on when you're moving teams. 515 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, it could be tough. Yeah, it's a lot, 516 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: especially if you're dealing with things in terms of vulnerabilities 517 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: that we're discussing, because you guys have life that we 518 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: don't see. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a lot that happens 519 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: uh in the background that doesn't happen on Sunday that 520 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: people don't see. For sure, how much did Robert Sala 521 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: help you out when you were going through some struggles 522 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: in San Francisco when this all was all always going down. 523 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: Because the thing that has always struck me about Salah 524 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: is he has the ability to connect with human beings. Yes, 525 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean sal has always had my back. You know, 526 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: after my sister died, he reach out to me, let 527 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: me know that he was here from me, and he's 528 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: so sorry by my loss, and you know, he's always 529 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of been been a good human 530 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: being for me. You know, he's he's always had my back. 531 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: He's always you know, been open to me and talk 532 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: to me about that. You know, I'm very thankful for 533 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: him and our time in San fran when I went 534 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: to that that hard time. You know, they came out 535 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: and supporting me at my sister's funeral, like which was 536 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: huge Um, you know it was you know, the Niners 537 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: and and Salid have been great to me for sure 538 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: during that time. Well, we salute you for everything you're 539 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: doing and you're gonna do in the future. Uh, since 540 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: we have you just for a couple of minutes, we 541 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: asked a couple of football questions. Of course, of course, 542 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: what do you think three and two after five games 543 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: with your new team? Yeah, feeling great, you know, you know, 544 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: obviously feel graphic picture Monday. Um, you know, but we 545 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: we obviously have a lot of things to work on. 546 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I'm excited about this group. We're hungry, 547 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: we're talented, and we're putting things together and you know, 548 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: we keep learning how to win, and we keep winning 549 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: this way. I think, you know, we're destined for great things. 550 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a huge believe in this group, and 551 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this group. You know, I came 552 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: out to San fran to a financial literacy program for 553 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: the rookies, and at that time, you guys were one 554 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: of the youngest teams in the NFL. And you know 555 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of those players were the foundation of what 556 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners are today. When you look 557 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: at the impact of these young rookie players. Are these 558 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: first and second year players rather bear Tucker, Breese hall uh, 559 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: Sauce gardener Um, what what do you think about their 560 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: performance and their maturity so early on in their career 561 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: and how good they are, how good they can be. Yeah, 562 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: they're not playing my rookies. You know, it's it's it's 563 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: been fun to watch them like a b t put 564 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: him a guard, put them a tackle, like that man's balling. 565 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: You know, Breeze is out there. You know breecee Obese 566 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: is he's been the beast right now. It's it's been 567 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: fun to watch. And you know, Sauces, he doesn't. They don't. 568 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: They just don't look like rookies, like the way they 569 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: approach a game like they're they're professionals, and their detailed 570 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: and they're talented, and they're they're putting their talent to use, 571 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: like they're not afraid of the big NFL. They're coming 572 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: out and they're playing ball right away, and it's been 573 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: it's been really fun to watch. How cool is that 574 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: to be part of the built is You were part 575 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: of that in San Francisco, So you're one of the 576 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: guys in the locker rooms. You can say, you know what, 577 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: I've seen how this works before, and you've been talking 578 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: to the media a number of times here over the 579 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and you're saying, Hey, I see 580 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: where this is gone. Yeah, I mean I see, I 581 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: see the way this team works. I see how hungry 582 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: we are. And the biggest thing is is believing how 583 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: great we are. And I think these wins have have 584 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: had us believe like, hey, this team is great and 585 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: we can be great. We can continue to be great 586 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: if we keep focused on the details, we keep staying 587 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: together and being present week to week and not getting 588 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: up or down with the winner of loss, just staying 589 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: steady through through whatever it is and making sure that, hey, 590 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: we're consistent with our work. I think we're consistent with 591 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: our grind, We're consistent with our details, and you know, 592 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: we once we put that together, I can see what 593 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: this team can do and you know, and I'm excited 594 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: for it. Solod's real charges up in that locker room 595 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: last night. But one of the things that he said was, Hey, 596 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: we can celebrate, but you got to get used to this. 597 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: This is the new normal. Yeah. Yeah, when you said 598 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: make this normal, Like you know, we're all like yeah, 599 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: like heck yeah, like this this is a new This 600 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: is a new Jets. This is how we're gonna rock. 601 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: Like make it normal to coming coming on a Sunday, 602 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: dominate win and just get back to work. You know, 603 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: it's not it's obviously you celebrate it when the NFL 604 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: because they're hard to get, but it's not some super 605 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: Bowl celebration. It's like, hey, you know, we got this win. 606 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: We expected to get this win, back to work and 607 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: get another one next week. What's Quinn and William ceiling? Oh? 608 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: That man? He is dominating at another level right now. 609 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: Like he just can't be blocked. He's too strong, it's 610 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: too powerful, he's too fast. You know I said last week, 611 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: I believe like he puts it together, he can be 612 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: a defensive MVP. Um. You know he is. He is 613 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: a force to be reckoned with. You know, he's he's 614 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: he's been fun to watch, a fun teammate to have. 615 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, que Is he was playing lights out right now? 616 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: Is this special for you? What's on the horizon going 617 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: to the football cathedral? That his Green Bay? It is Yeah, 618 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: you know it's always fun to go put in Lambeau. 619 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: You know it's everyone always asked my favorite place to play, 620 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: So it's there, you know, Yeah, I played there. I 621 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: played there once and it was just a fun, fun 622 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: place to be. You know, it's cold, you know, it's 623 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: got great history. It's the only thing in that town. Um. 624 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: You know, you definitely love playing there. So excited to 625 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: go play there. What you think about that? What's some 626 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: of the things you want to share with your teammates 627 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: as far as the environment to feel you know, they 628 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: got to heat, it coils, right because they used to freeze. Well, 629 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: what's some of the things that you're sharing with them 630 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: early on as far as environment so they can know 631 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: what they're walking into because a lot of these guys 632 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: have never played at Lambo. Yeah, no, let them know that. Hey, 633 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: they they have a pretty good field. Like I think 634 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: it's half turf half grass. Um, you know, it's heated, 635 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: you know it's the field's actually pretty decent, but you 636 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: know it's it's like a college atmosphere. I'll let them know, 637 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: like it's the crags rowdy, you know. I let to 638 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: know about the hotel for sure, you know, the away hotel. 639 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: And we don't understand like has has some of the 640 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: worst hotel beds that you know you'll sleep in, so 641 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, just get get your sleep sleep leading up 642 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: to the game before we leave on Saturday. So I 643 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: think that's a huge thing to tell them as well. Um, 644 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: but you know, and you know the food is not 645 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: great either, but you know it's ah, you know you're 646 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: in You're in a Green Bay, Wisconsin. There's not much there. 647 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, gotta get some cheese curds. 648 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: But you know you gotta gotta be prepared for all 649 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: that for sure. What about the opportunity playing against Aaron Rodgers, 650 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: You never know when your last crack at him is 651 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna be definitely, Yeah, you know, it's a it's always 652 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: fun to play against like a future Hall of Famer 653 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: And and you know, so Aaron's a guy who's always prepared. 654 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: He's he can change a game at any time time 655 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: during the game. You know, he he knows how to 656 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: get the off size penalties and go downfield like he 657 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: he's a very very good quarterback. So it's always fun 658 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: to play against the future Hall of Famer and get 659 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: a chance to get after him. 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Yeah, that's huge, 697 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: and he's a guy we will continue to root for 698 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: because he is making in roads not just on a 699 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: football field, but well off of it. So, uh, we 700 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: salute him and his family let's talk about the Jets 701 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: three and two after five games. How about this staff 702 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: for you. Zack Wilson has head six drives in the 703 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter in two games, five touchdowns and one kneel down. Yeah. Man, 704 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: you know it's like what they say when when it's 705 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: when it's too hard for everybody else is just right 706 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: for us. And listen, you would you would hope that 707 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: they wouldn't allow the Miami to come back and go 708 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: seventeen nineteen. I'll tell you what did they answer, and 709 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: did they answer in a great way. You talk about 710 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, locking in, getting or done turning the ball over, 711 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: And I thought it was very symbolic that, you know, 712 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Quinny Williams through Tyreek Hill who shunned the Jets out 713 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: of the club like Jazzy Jeff, you know, getting thrown 714 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: out the house by my uncle Phil, but for hitting 715 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: no Hillary. So I'm glad that he was able to 716 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: get it. And I told you guys last week, I 717 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: like my filate, I like my fish fil A with 718 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: sauce and Thoss Gardner. How how crazy is this? Yeah? 719 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: You know the Jets could dominate the month with rookie 720 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: offensive players and defensive players of the Year of the Week, 721 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: because if you look at it this week, Breece Haws 722 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: should win it again and he should be off the 723 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: a see offensive player. We got no game Davids WM 724 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: one semi one, but he went for you know one 725 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: nineties seven, you know against uh, you know a team 726 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: that was uh four and one at the time or 727 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: three and one whatever their record was, and they got 728 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: the job done in the upset fashion. And then Sauce 729 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, got a safety, got a sack of safety 730 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: and an interception. Each of win the award again this 731 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: week as well. So, I mean, how great is that? 732 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: It just speaks to the young talent and the great 733 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: job that Joe Douglas has done and the coaching staff 734 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: has done to put these guys in positions to really 735 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: really put their their talents on display. How great is 736 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: the Official Jets podcast where Bart Scott throws a fresh 737 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Prince a belt air reference at you. I love that. 738 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: Do you think there should be two championship belts in 739 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: terms of Rookies of the Week, because, like you just mentioned, 740 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: you got Brees Sall, but you got Sauce Gardner either. 741 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: You gotta cut that belt belt in half forgiven each 742 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: of you because one is offensive, one is defensive. So 743 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: they've got it one after all, the Garrett gott it, 744 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: then Sauce got it, then Breeze got it. But how 745 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: about having a week where they both get one right 746 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: offensive defense is the same week? That would be crazy right, 747 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: And that just speaks to where they're going in. You 748 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean and what Breef Hall is. I 749 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: told people before and I said again, I said that 750 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: Greece Hall was going to be everything that Sake Kwan 751 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Barkley was supposed to be. Not not shunning, not shunning 752 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley, just speaking to the talent, because I 753 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: don't think we had enough of the hoop law that 754 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: that Sae Kwan guy, because he was taking second overall. 755 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at the results what 756 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley did his rookie year, eighteen hundred yards, 757 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: I believe a total offense. You know, between the running past, 758 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: I think Breeze is on page to be able to 759 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: finish strong and be able to top those numbers, but 760 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: also just his physicality and hopefully he can stay healthy. 761 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: But so far, so good, and I think we should 762 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: put you know, we should have had more hooplah about 763 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: how excited Jet fans should be when they were able 764 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: to move up and get him in the second round. 765 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: I think Joe Douglas should be executive the year in 766 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: the National Football League. I think that's the way it's 767 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna play out. We'll have to see. You're talking about 768 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: this rookie class, But how about these free agents making 769 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: a difference like they forementioned d J Reid uh Elijah Vera. 770 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: Tucker obviously was a draft pick last year, but he's 771 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: everything that they're trying to instill in terms of the culture. Here, 772 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: guy lines up everywhere next week, will probably be playing 773 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: center or fullback. Um. But yeah, yeah, long snapper. I mean, 774 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: but as far as this draft is concerned, the two 775 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two draft class, yeah, you should throw 776 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: the special name by it, because it does have an 777 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: opportunity to be special and pay dividends for not just 778 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: this year, not five years down the road. But wow, 779 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: the potential of the Jets young core is really something else. 780 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: Who's more of a surprise the Jets at three and two, 781 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: considering who they played and then starting a backup quarterback 782 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: the first three games this season, even though he's accomplished 783 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: player in Joe Flacco or the New York Giants of 784 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: four and one. I mean, for for me, the New 785 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: York Giants, it is a different story. I think that 786 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: you have quote the Jets because of the expectations a 787 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: little lower. Um. The Giants had their quarterback in place 788 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: for a long time, they had you know, first round 789 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: draft picks as well. But you know, also they had 790 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: they had spent the crazy money and free agency when 791 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: they went on and they spent a lot of money 792 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: on Sterling page, Sterling, Shepherd pay Kennedy, brought Kenny Galla 793 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: day in, made the trade for Leonard Williams. So they're 794 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: deep in their process right so that they're starting to 795 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: evaluate and see who's going to be there for the 796 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: long term. But they've are already had initial core and 797 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: initial foundation. Now you know, you talk about you know, 798 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Brad Berry that they brought in when they spent so 799 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: much money and crazy. The Jets are different because they 800 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: still have plenty of draft equity. They still have plenty 801 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: of draft capital or salary cap capital as well. When 802 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: you think about this offseason, they're they're gonna have probably 803 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, fifth sixth most salary cap space in anybody 804 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: in the league. And that's that's a testament to Joe 805 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: Douglas building a young foundation and doing it organically and 806 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: not doing it through free agency, which is only temporary. 807 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: If you want to have long sustainces that you have 808 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: to build through the draft. Know, but when he said 809 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: to go to free agency, he's getting returns. We saw 810 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: Twain Brown come back to the lineup here this week 811 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: for the Jets. Conklin has caught a number of balls 812 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: from both quarterbacks. All right, So what do you make 813 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers right now? Three and two overall? 814 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: That technically was a home game in London, but they 815 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: are two and all at Lambeau Field this year. What 816 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: do you think about the match up ahead for the 817 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: Jets on the horizon? Well, I get some type of 818 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: confidence because they went in to listen. I understand lambeau 819 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: is a historical place, but it's no more special than 820 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: playing in Pittsburgh. I know, it's not the old Heinz Field, 821 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: or it's not the Three Rivers Stadium, but it is 822 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and it's that tradition. When you think about you know, um, 823 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: heritage brands or legacy brands. You would go Distillers, you 824 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: would go the Giants, you would go the Packers as well. 825 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: So the fact that they've played in a tough environment 826 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: when Renegate comes on downtown and was able to come back, 827 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: the fact that they were able to go to Cleveland 828 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: with another one of those you know, heritage legacy environment. 829 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: So I don't think the environment would be anything that 830 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: they didn't face in Pittsburgh and in Cleveland. And I 831 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: think this would be a great opportunity for them to 832 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: use some of that experience of their game to go 833 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: in the hospital environment at a college like atmosphere and 834 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: be able to really have a great showing for themselves 835 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: and understanding belief that this isn't the Green Bay Packers 836 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: of old, this isn't the Aaron Rodgers Davante Adams that 837 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: they're very beautiful team, but you have to believe that 838 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: before weekend. Yeah, So how do you think they match 839 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: up on both sides of the ball. Let's start with 840 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: the with the defense going against Rogers, who is adjusting 841 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: right now they run out of football while Aaron Jones 842 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: wants the balt More. Well, I think that's where it's 843 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: going to be if it was one thing that the 844 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: Jets have to do better have to tackle Sauce has 845 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: to get his head across. You can't put an arm 846 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: there and think you're gonna get somebody about. You gotta 847 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: put the the far leg in front, and you gotta 848 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: put the head across to be able to get guys out. 849 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, they gave up some runs to to breed 850 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: to running laterally, right he was gonna know Mustard, Yeah, 851 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: your muster I always you know breedas and and uh 852 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: with the Giants, but you know running laterally. So those 853 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Jets sweeps are things and personnel groups that they use. 854 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, you hear Breeze Hall talking about how difficult 855 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: it is for teams to adjust to their two lines 856 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: running back set. But they're gonna the Jets defense is 857 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to have an answer for that because when 858 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: Dylan and Aaron Jones is in the same game, you're 859 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: gonna get those Jets sweeps, you know, with downhill runs 860 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: as well, trying to grab your eyes and get you 861 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: to expand just slightly, or you know, try and get 862 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: you to stay inside with the inside run and give 863 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: it to Aaron Jones to hit the corners. Right now, 864 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: his favorite target is Aaron is Randall Cob. You know 865 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: somebody that he fought hard for to come. That's somebody 866 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: that he truly trust. But it's gonna be exciting to 867 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: see how we match up because they don't really have 868 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: a dominant Tyreek Hill and Jalen Wattle. But they do 869 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: is they have a guy who knows how to fatilitate 870 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: the football and get the football to the playmakers. You know, 871 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: they just haven't been doing a good job and being 872 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: able to catch the ball. But Aaron Rodgers can. You 873 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: know in the week things can change. You know when 874 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: they drop those palls that now they can catch them, 875 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 1: and it's gonna put you in distress. So you gotta 876 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: be on your a game. You gotta be able to 877 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: pay attention to the little things because Aaron Rodgers is 878 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: a master of the of the little things. Right, That's 879 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: how you measure good the great doing the little things 880 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. They gotta make sure that, hey, 881 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: but it's time to change personnel. You get off the field. 882 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna try and get free plays by getting you 883 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: twelve men on the field. He's gonna have fluctuations in 884 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: this in his in his cadence. You gotta pay attention 885 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: to the little thing. So the little things add up 886 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: to big things because they're a difference between winning and losing. 887 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: That that's gonna have to be really locked in in 888 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: the environment and make sure that they play a solid 889 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: game with no turnovers. What about it on the other 890 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: side of the ball, The Packers past defense ranks second 891 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I know the Giants had 892 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: a lot of traction in the second half over across 893 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: the pond. And what do you think about the matchup 894 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: for Zack Wilson and company. Five rush touchdowns against the 895 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. And I love the run to pass ratio 896 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: because they said, Zack Wilson, you don't have to do 897 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: it all yourself. Thirty three carries on the ground, twenty 898 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: one pass the times, Well, what do you have to do? 899 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 1: We got the Packers because I look at them and say, hey, 900 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: on the edges, they can bring the heat. And I 901 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: also like the interior that defensive line well, but they 902 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: also give a huge rushing yard. You see se Kwine. 903 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: You see also using the running backs in the past 904 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: game come across the middle and being able to outrun 905 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: the defense, clearing the linebackers. You know, I think you 906 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 1: can attack these linebackers. They have young linebackers and Craig 907 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: kay Walker and you know, Campbell's a pro bowler and 908 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: he's a franchise type of defensive player. But I like 909 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: our matchups and our running backs may ever to have 910 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: choice and option routes against them. Also, I like the 911 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: fact that you know, we can run the ball downhill 912 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: on them. They're they're a good team. They're physical, they're fast, 913 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: but they don't stop the run but to really well. 914 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: So I look forward to running the ball and making 915 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: sure that you maintain that balance, you know, minimum thirty 916 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: carries and you'll be able to take shots when they 917 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: come down to get greedy into into the pocket. I 918 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: really like that. And let's sign here. What do you 919 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: think about this two game swing. I think before the season, 920 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: even the most internal optimists from a Jets perspective are like, well, 921 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna come away with a 922 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: win here green Bay at Denver. But you look at 923 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: the Packers, you look at the Broncos. I see two 924 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 1: teams still trying to find themselves. I would say green 925 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: Bay is more advanced than done done for at this point, 926 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: But the Jets are playing well right now. Yeah, it's 927 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: not who you play is when you're playing right, and 928 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: it's about you know, the Jets, you know, played some 929 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: tough teams in Baltimore and Cincinnati early on. I think 930 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: if they can have those games back, they'll be a 931 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: lot more competitive. But when you think about it, right, 932 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like who who can get their identity? 933 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: I think you know, early on, you know they were 934 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: finding their identity and the o flackle. But now with 935 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: two games on this Belding, Zach Wilson, they know who 936 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: they could be. They know how to block, you know, 937 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown came back and you know who knows that 938 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: mentioned this team is gonna get North fat together. Then 939 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have, you know, something that you thought you 940 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: were gonna have at the end of the year, and 941 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: protection to be better. You'll be able to take more 942 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: shots and you'll be able to do more things. Thanks brother, 943 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: Uncle Phil wouldn't like this podcast.